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Premier League Week 5 Review · On The Edge Sports Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to week five of our On the Edge Premier League weekly show with myself, Brenda Turney, and Darren Kearns across the desk for me, Darren.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, we'll get it over.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: Rob is the Arsenal men.
0:25
SPEAKER_00: We got manners.
0:27
SPEAKER_00: Get another way early before they'll all forget by the end of the show.
0:30
SPEAKER_00: We got manners put on us by Brighton, who you can only just but admire.
0:33
SPEAKER_00: Like they've what's six?
0:34
SPEAKER_00: They've the top scorers in the Premier League.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: They did have a few games when it was against Chelsea, where you were like, oh, they can score, but they can't defend.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: But they kept a clean sheet against us.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: And like everything I've heard, Arsenal just seemed to be.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: You got to watch it.
0:46
SPEAKER_00: I was doing something, I can't remember.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get to watch it live.
0:49
SPEAKER_01: You were lucky you weren't watching it because terrible hurt.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as bad as Arson have played in a number of years.
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1:10
SPEAKER_01: Um credit to Brighton.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, but they went after them from the get-go.
1:15
SPEAKER_01: They went after Raya at the with the ball at his feet, they went after their centre halves, they didn't give them any time.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: And that Herzler manager has them well coached.
1:27
SPEAKER_01: And they were bouncing around the field.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's a tough place to go.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: It really is, and has been for the last couple of seasons.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: And but like from the get-go, just Arsenal weren't there, they weren't at it.
1:39
SPEAKER_01: Like he changed, he took out Lewis Skelly out of midfield, who I thought was doing very well, and he put Bruno in.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, was his hand forced a little bit, you know, after scoring against Sunderland last week when he came on at halftime.
1:50
SPEAKER_01: But even still, just Arsenal weren't at the races for whatever reason.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: It was just one of these days.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: So what I will say is park it and move on and give a hat tip to Brighton.
2:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: And Pascal Gross, like this man keeps coming back, and he never seems to fail.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: Correct goal.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: He ran the show from midfield, he really did.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: But they had they were they were on top in every aspect of the game.
2:11
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't like Arsenal could have scored just before halftime.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh Saka had a kind of a half chance, and Brighton went straight down the field and got their second goal, which gave them the two-goal cushion, and Arsenal just didn't seem to have to fight for whatever.
2:26
SPEAKER_00: Well um Arteta said just before he said after the first throw, and he said it was a throw-in.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: First throw in the game, he said I knew they weren't at it.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's so funny as a management team.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like I seen and on match today where the defence, two centre backs, kind of just stepped off a couple of times, and that was enough to give away.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just and just but just the the whole mannerisms of of the whole team, like it was just it just wasn't there for a number of reasons, I would say, but more more so down to Brighton and not Arsenal, like you know, and like obviously Brighton had a good win during the week against Man United in the cup, and then they hit the ground running on Saturday afternoon, they get a good goal from Pascal Gross, super finish from outside the box in off the bottom of the post, give Ryan no chance, and they never look back and they could have won the game even more comfortably, to be honest.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: Like they won 3-0, great scoreline for them.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: They had uh one or two other chances that could have easily gone in, and it would have been very embarrassing for Arsenal.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: But Parkett, move on.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: That's all you can do, I think, at this stage.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: And another team who had their noses punched was Chelsea.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 3-0 uh Friday night, uh, away to Brentford.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: And like Brentford had kind of been stumbling a little bit on and off in different games, and it was hard to know what to make of them, but they're now sitting in fourth on nine points.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: So like obviously, we have uh an Irish interest in Brentford with Keith Andrews and with Damian Duff gone in as assistant manager, and obviously Nathan Collins is kind of club captain or that, but he's been injured the last few weeks, and then like Queen Keller and goals, he's just an excellent, excellent keeper.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: How did Liverpool ever?
3:51
SPEAKER_00: I know Allison is not too too bad now, of course.
3:53
SPEAKER_00: I know like long term you would have kept him in class.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: Or even why a uh bigger club hasn't come in for him since he went to Brentford because you know every game he pulls off excellent saves, but Chelsea, again, more question marks than answers, you know, like they're obviously very good going forward.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: But I mentioned on it last week that they wouldn't have faced a back five before with Brentford play.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: They play a back five without the ball and they suffocate you and do not give you any time in the ball.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: And when you as that strike force, so you have obviously Pedro was missing because he was out injured, but then you had Palmer and you had Morgan Rogers still playing, like every time that they got the ball at their feet, they were like there is absolutely no for no place to go.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: And Brentford, like it was nil all at halftime.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: Brentford get three goals in the second half, they got a late goal late on with Carvalho, good finish at the back post, but they were a hundred percent no more than Brighton on Saturday, they were a hundred percent justified with their win.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and again, Chelsea, like again, a young guy Barco playing midfield, Henderson and Wellbeck.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like we all kind of threw our eyes up to the sky wondering what they got those guys for.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I can understand Wellbeck will do a job over the whole course of the season, but uh like when Pedro was out, it just showed that that's yeah, there's a big golfing class, big drop-off there.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: No disrespect to Danny Wellbeck, like, but he is he's he's the wrong side of probably 35 at the moment.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: I would say so.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, and throwing him into the mix, and especially when you're up against a back five, you know, like you're expect uh asking him to do stuff that he's never done in his career, and obviously Martinez in goal, you know.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Like Chelsea have had a problem with a keeper over the last few seasons, you know, they've been chopping and changing loads of times, and obviously they decided this year the starter with Sanchez decided to get rid of Sanchez, brought Martinez in from Villa, and I'm not sure if you've seen the clip or not of the goal that went in with Jordan Jordan Henderson went at him after the goal.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, and he gave it to him as if to say Jordan gave it to Martinez that this this should not be happening, like you need to be stronger in the year here.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: He was he he let in a goal he shouldn't have in a couple of times this season.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he has.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: He's one of those players though, like he has been brilliant in lots of times, and we had him at Arsenal, he was great and lots of it, but there's a personality and an ego there that you go stop that life.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would say, and that's why I would say Henderson was on to him was the ego, yeah, because he's like, you know, he's and he does be playing up to the crowd and he pulls off top saves, he really does.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: But you know, I would say Henderson is kind of in there as you know, the general like, don't be doing this, don't be doing that, and I'll tell you what's right and tell you what's wrong.
6:25
SPEAKER_01: But Henderson was playing the other night and he was probably you know back back at Brentford and he was probably absolutely disgusted with what was happening on the field.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: But as I said, it's it'll be interesting to see where it'll go.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean, look at the season is still uh very.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Of course it is, yeah.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, they've had a few kind of like they're now in tenth place on seven points where they were being talked up as Premier League contenders, you know.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: And I mentioned at the start we we were doing this at Igor Tiago is you know a top striker, and I was a little bit surprised that a bigger club hasn't come in for him.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: And maybe Arsenal.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he he he's been under a bit of pressure in in a couple of the games, and after he scored the last night, so like he takes off the jersey and he goes into the crowd, and it was like it was a lot of release of emotion for whatever reason, you know, is the pressure.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: Was he feeling the pressure and he gets his goal?
7:12
SPEAKER_01: And you know, so then my young fellow obviously said to me, Should that not be two yellow cards?
7:18
SPEAKER_01: Jersey off and into the crowd.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, are well thank God's a bit of common sense with things like that.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but are there not two incidents?
7:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh some refs would, yeah.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: I have no doubt that they would, absolutely not.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, they're moving on to Saturday.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: Tottenham finally got a goal, they got two of them.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: They did, but the only problem was Villa got three.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: Conceeded three, and they were 3-0 down, yeah.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: 3-0 down, and uh Jackson looked busy.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: I was watching the highlights back on match today, like so like we're kind of I know Villa had a terrible start, but they still had ingredients, they were tigerish, huh?
7:46
SPEAKER_00: There's my old phrase, uh, against us when they were playing.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Tough tough team to break down.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: I just see that like if you can be tough on the breakdown, you can you can always get yourself gelled and more.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: We were talking about Martinez in goals for Chelsea.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: The Suzuki fella that's in goals.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, the villa now.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: He's so big and tall, huge, such reflexes, yeah.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: And he's a giant of a man, but he like he pulled off excellent saves against Spurs at the weekend, right?
8:13
SPEAKER_01: But his distribution with his feet, and I mentioned this after the first night I watched him against Arsenal, right?
8:19
SPEAKER_01: Like he is spraying balls 50, 60, 70 yards and putting it on fellas' chests.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: He was doing the same the last day out of his hands and off the deck.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: So anybody that hasn't watched him, just just keep an eye on him because and you know, if you if you're a keeper and you're excellent with the ball at your feet, sometimes you mightn't be as good at the shot stopping, or you know, you might get let down with your hand or something like that.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: But he seems to be a a very, very good all-rounder.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: And again for Spurs, look at they got obviously they got two goals late on.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: Again, it's 86th and 98th minutes.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: It was real.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: And it's it's like 3-0 down at home to Villa, like you know, in a game that okay, it's you know, we let let's let's get a result out of here is what Deserby would have been saying to his players, like you know, but again, hasn't happened, and I would say one thing for sure is that they're probably glad in the international break.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, just to stop the crowd on their back and stop talking and just reset about our coming wrong here and see if we can get a couple of players back, and like they have like obviously they have a complete overhaul of the team, but it's not working, it's not gelling.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: It's you know, and the lads that they've spent big money on that they're expecting to score goals with them, half and scored goals to them.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, then they need to start clicking.
9:33
SPEAKER_01: But Villa probably got that that was a good win for Villa, you know.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: They they needed that win themselves, they were going through a little bit of a bad spell for the first four games themselves.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, where Villa now are up in 16th on four points, so still not flying, but at least it's starting to go.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: But then after after after five games, Spurs bottom of the table.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: Like bottom of the table after Fulham got that the draw, wasn't it?
9:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, draw Man United.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: But there's no way that any Spurs fan was going to envisage this is going to happen after all the money they'll spent.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, crazy, crazy.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh we're moving on now to Everton, uh, one Ipswich Nil.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: I suppose no big surprise there.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Everton, probably never too spectacular in lots of games, but again, they're dogged and solid.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: Java Moy's team.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's just what you get from him, isn't it?
10:14
SPEAKER_00: Like uh Antierno Barry, that's his fifth goal of the season at two in the Premier League and three in the in the League Cup, and then there was a red card there for Fatawu.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like like Fatawoo, excuse my he got he got he got his second yellow card for simulation.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: So for anybody that hasn't seen it, like like it was it was so so silly.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: Like he was coming in off the wing, he was having a good game, he he nearly scored, and he was up and down the field, and he was a real handful for Everton all all day long, but he's cutting in off the wing, and there was I think the ball might have got away from him like a heavy touch, and he puts his leg out across the Everton defender, and there was no way in the world that he was going to get anything other than a second yellow for simulation because it wasn't as if the Everton fellow was putting in a tackle, he was only running beside him, and he throws himself to the ground, and the ref was left with no choice but to give him a second yellow, and he's probably a young fellow that will learn from it.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: I'd say Gary O'Neill will be giving it to him in three weeks to give it to him.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: He definitely has, like, you know, and uh at Gary O'Neill, like he he I think he lost his his dad, passed away there last week.
11:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he deserves credit for stepping up to the plate and he'd done a good interview after the game as well.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: And Ipsods weren't too bad, but Everton just at home, solid enough.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: You know, David Moy's team, nothing too spectacular, and Barry gets the goal again and they get their three points.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Newcastle to Hull once in Newcastle after the drubbing to Leeds uh away on Monday night.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: They come back.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: Willock and Hall 2-0 inside seven minutes, but Hull eventually hit back.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: No, I I I thought this was a prime game for Hull to go, right, we get a draw again here, we'll keep moving, but no, it didn't turn out that way.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: I again it was Newcastle just hit the ground running at the very start of the game, and they went straight for Hull, and they were like they were putting bodies in the box in the first couple of minutes.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: And Willock, who I don't think he scored last year, did he?
12:02
SPEAKER_01: He definitely didn't score many, that's for sure.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I don't I think I heard that stat that this is his first goal in two seasons or something like that.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: And he gets he gets a good finish, and Lewis Hull, another player who wouldn't be renowned for his scoring ability, gets up and gets a good goal.
12:15
SPEAKER_01: And Hull come, you know, Hull to their credit, stuck at the task, but Newcastle probably it was a game that Newcastle really needed to win to get the fans back inside after a bad defeat the Monday night previous.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: But Hull, okay, like again, you I think somebody had said, like, if if you had given Hull this position at the start of the season, they would have bitten your hand.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, and they had 22 shots the last time.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so like you know, even if you lose, you go, right, well, we really put it up to them, we worked hard and we created chances because that just gives you a little bit of a a boost, you know.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, just moving on to uh Nottingham Forest nil Coventry won Coventry their first Premier League in 25 years, and then uh De Silva was and you were telling us beforehand that it was the first time uh it's his first goal for Coventry 130 games or something crazy.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: Something odd games.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or was he always with them?
13:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure, but if whatever club he hasn't scored, yeah, he played on his team.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: And he in his interview after the game, he was basically saying that he has been getting loads and loads of stick.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: And anybody that's see that's seen the seen the goal, like he took it superbly well.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Like it was a keeper, the keeper put the ball over the top, he ran onto it, he took a brilliant touch, and he slotted the ball home.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: So for somebody that hasn't scored in 120 odd games, it was well, it was no bad goal.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: Like Forrest would be disappointed with that.
13:32
SPEAKER_01: And obviously, Forrest scored late on to you know to get the VR decision against the equaliser, and VR comes back and looks at it, and I don't know, did you see it?
13:41
SPEAKER_01: I did.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: Like he stood on his foot on the edge of the box and he fell five, ten seconds later, like and you know, and so uh initially I had thought, okay, there's no way that it's going to be chalked off.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: Like they looked at it and he stood on him.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: And did his own man put him down after that?
13:57
SPEAKER_01: Did I think his own man might have helped him go to the ground?
14:00
SPEAKER_01: But like I like again, it's it's the VAR debate.
14:03
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's is it right, is it wrong?
14:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, probably was a foul.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think once you say that sentence, you go, We can't give out to VAR then going, okay, but nothing for us to feel aggrieved, will feel aggrieved.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: But again, a great win for Coventry and Lampard again.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's like, I think uh was it Jamie Rednap or somebody said that you know he is a psychopath about football.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: It's morning, noon, and night.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: And he's there, you know, he's manager there.
14:30
SPEAKER_01: He obviously was with Chelsea before in the Premier League, but like for him to stick with Coventry after bringing them up and to get the win, you could see that it meant an awful lot to them afterwards with their celebrations with their with their fans afterwards.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, he they were both there the the team, the players, and the fans all were running behind each other.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, and if Gibbs White is watching, uh, I had your triple captain.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: I thought, oh, this is a good chance, and he's had a good good season so far.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, that didn't work out for any of us, no.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh then moving on to Sunday, you had Bournemouth and Liverpool.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, Liverpool, by all accounts, scrape through with a win.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you'll take a win away to Bournemouth.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: Bournemouth's really not going well this year at all, Bournemouth.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: So Liverpool will go, we'll take that.
15:05
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, and uh, and I suppose Isaac scored again.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: You know, so he he's obviously he had a bad injury last year, but he's got more goals this season than he did obviously last season.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: But that's huge money signing, obviously, you know, two seasons ago, and they need him fired in goals, and in tight games like that, like that's what they bought him for, you know, to finish off them goals.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: But Allison, to his credit, the Liverpool keeper, unbelievable save in the first half.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: I didn't get to see the highlights in this one now, but I think the ball was gone by him and he was gone the opposite way, and he gets a full body shift, gets across and just plucks it from behind the line nearly, you know, and gets it out.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: And in them games, like the first goal is so crucial in them games, and obviously Liverpool got it in the second half, but from what I could see on the highlights, it wasn't a game for the ages or anything like that.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: And Liverpool probably delighted to get out of there with the win after having a bit of a sticky patch the last couple of weeks, you know.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Well, look, I mean they're where they're sitting now in um they're in sixth place, nine points, you know what I mean?
16:06
SPEAKER_00: They're six points off City.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: So what were you saying?
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Caracer was saying about Caracer were like Florida Verts, we kind of shouldn't be in the team, which is a massive statement to come out with a man of his profile.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh so that'll be interesting how that sticks amongst the fans.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: But will they start going against Verts now?
16:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I'd say, like there'll be a lot of fans thinking the same, you know, like the money that's spent on them, you know, and obviously they've spent money on loads of players like Barcola was there the last day.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Again, looked okay.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, definitely still only finding his feet in the Premier League.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can't give him too much grief, but uh, is it are Arauho, the right back, and Jacke, they seem to be getting a lot of praise that maybe that's just the grounding.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: Maybe Kirkes isn't the solid left back that you want either.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: But look, maybe with with a mix of all.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, Verts and they were kind of like people just spits of it.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: Is he an easy target?
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Is it because of the?
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, when you put that price tag, it's awful easy then, you know.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: But like like they had started Simicas in another game, and then they like that was another.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: But I suppose like it, like you're he probably got the benefit of the doubt last season as his first season in the Premier League.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and now if he hasn't set the world alight in the first five games, then the questions start, you know, is he ever going to be that player?
17:24
SPEAKER_01: But Premier League compared to German football or French football or any of these leagues is a completely different kettle of fish like.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, different app.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: But like even if you're looking at their bench, there's there's no one particularly there.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Like maybe you put Sabasley up in that position, would you, as a number 10?
17:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's such a strike, and I'm like it.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: So, but then you know, like on the bench there, Gravenberge, maybe uh they don't actually have a load of midfielders going on last week's game.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: And like they were obviously Gakpo had one foot out the door in the transfer window.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: He started on the right.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: The last uh he's I've never seen him play on the right, it's always been on the left.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: So I think they're trying to slot back all about ground pegs in and fairness of uh Kitiki to come back.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how far away he is, but like so.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, in fairness, like when he comes back, that's a different that's a different thing for other teams of contending.
18:06
SPEAKER_00: But look, I suppose good win for Liverpool, uh a tough place to go.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: But as you said, Bournemouth aren't firing.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Um just moving on, then Leeds and Palace.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: Again, I thought this was another dinger.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: I thought Leeds were definitely gonna get hit the goals home to Palace.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: But this this league keeps firing results.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: I picked Leeds in last man's standing and I'm gone.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, and I was thinking after they had bet Newcastle on Monday night, 4-1, Palace in bad form at Ellen Road again.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: I was thinking, you know, surely to God they're gonna nick a win here, like you know, and Palace to their credit, dug it out.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, and again, a nil-all draw.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: It's you know, Leeds are the flattering to deceive, you know.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: They're a crazy kind of team, anyways.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: They're a team you hit playing because you don't know what's coming.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't, you know, there's no there's no regularity of form there, like they have the firepower to attack you, but then no, they're not a good fantasy football team, anyways.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: That is that is one thing's for sure.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, just to finish it out, the end with those two the two Manchester teams, Manchester City five, Sunderland three.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: I have to give them credit, comprehensive win.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Braby coming up at a hat-trick for Sunderland again.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Braby, yeah.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so again, maybe that's like it like we couldn't handle him uh in the stadium alike the week before.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like he he was bullying defenders, and he done the same against Man City, like you know, he's a real handful, and you know, he got himself into loads of good positions, and he finished three goals, two of them I think were tap-ins, but like he's just he's he's a handful, he really is.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: And then like you go down the far end of the field, and you're thinking, right, if you hadn't seen any of the scores, you're thinking Man City would score five goals, surely Halan got a hat-trick, or you know, that's what everybody would be thinking, and then he gets the he gets the goal late on.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: It was a Fernandez got a brilliant free kick in this one, is it?
19:42
SPEAKER_00: Super free kick.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Again, I I I'm catching up myself because we know the thing.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: From the wrong angle, everybody thought he was crossing the ball in.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: He goes behind the ball and hits the ball into the near post, catches the keeper off guard.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: Yes, great goal, and it's a great way to open his account.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: And again, look at the Semenyo came up with two goals.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Turkey got a goal, and then Haland got a goal.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: But like the stats there, uh Sunderland had more total shots and more shots than target.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: 17 versus 16 and 9 versus 6.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Ruben Diaz cleared one off the line.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, and City like like I know the win, like when you're coming up against a stronger team, it'll be interesting how they start playing the real top teams.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where to go.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like last week they shouldn't have beaten Man United if the rules were implied, yeah, applied.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: And if you're talking about rules, you're you're like, I'm sure everybody has seen the Elliot Anderson handball.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, and like I Dar McGallor and Ref Hodge said it yesterday that oh, well, if you look, his it hit off this hand and then this, but like I'm going, yeah, but if this hand was down by his side, then it's a natural position.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: But up here, yeah, and he he flicked like he had a movement from what I see.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: So any like so anybody that that's seen the clip has said, well, it surely was a penalty, or it was given as a handball, or something happened that it you know was at an offside first or something like that.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: Or and even Dermot Gallaher tried clutching at straws to say that the Sunderland guy handled it first in in the ref watch, and Jay Butright, who has kept his job after last week, yeah, he was looking at as if to say no he didn't, because it hit the top of his shoulder, like you know, yeah.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: And again, look at it, it it there's there's a grey area there in the VAR debate.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: The reason it wasn't given is because it hit his other arm first to come across and hit his hand.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: So, like, is that not two handballs?
21:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, but like like uh like City have conceded five, scored 13, uh Brighton, you know, so like they're no, they're defensively not too bad, but they're still letting in goals like Coventry said that to Coventry, like could have scored.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: So it'd be interesting to see how they where they're going from here.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: But I mean uh Moresca.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: But they're five from five.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you can't argue against that.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
21:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, whether you're you're saying that oh they're not the team that they used to be, and they've lost Rodri, and you know, you know Silva as well, and uh but they're and they're shaky at the back and they're conceding goals, and yet they're after winning five games in a row.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, you can probably well and you have Gayhee there and D like you have some good players.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where they where they have the rest of the season.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: And then the last game of the weekend, Fulham won, Man United won uh, and again, like we said, Gary Neville said they were like what blue mannequins or something.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he said it was the worst performance by Man United, I think he said, since he was five years of age.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Since he started going to Manchester United games, and like that's that's a statement.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: That is that's your headline of the weekend.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Arsenal and Chelsea were like, thank God he said that.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: All the heat off us.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, like it's it's so Fulham obviously an OG.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Martinez scored an OG, uh calamitous OG.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Calamitous by all accounts, yeah.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: Like like if if you're watching, like, why did Lemons not go with his hand after it hit off Martinez and keep the ball out?
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't I don't know what he was thinking.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: And he made a couple of good saves throughout the game.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: He did.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: But Fulham hadn't been firing at all.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: Like they would only Fulham have been real struttery this year, like you know what I mean.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: So that was a team United think.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Leno then in goals for Fulham, pulls off a couple of good saves himself, you know, keeps keeps them there, and then they obviously get the goal late on.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: So you're thinking that they're going to hold out, and then Cunha gets a deflected shot that goes in, which Leno was probably going to save comfortably as well.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: And man United get the point, but again, it's like you know, Carrick is under pressure there.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: Have they played excellently well yet in any game, particularly?
23:20
SPEAKER_00: Was there any there was one at home, was it that Ipswich or something?
23:23
SPEAKER_00: But like you should be beating Ipswich.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like there was all the in the press and in social media since that they're they're like saying that the the effort that United are putting in is is the effort that they're putting in is not good enough, you know, that their their pace levels and their fitness levels are not where it should be.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: And like for a club like Man United, like who finished in the top four last year, like and have to play two games a week after you come back from this international break.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: That'll really hurt that.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: That's what it's going to test them.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, and then loads of people saying, like, if you were listening to the boys on off the ball yesterday, they were calling Bruno Fernandez uh a fraud.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, this is they they would they went really in on him on that side of things, and you know, they're on about his petulance towards the ref and his petulance towards the.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's for he's doing that forever.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: He's one of my least favourite Premier League brothers, despite his unbelievable talent, I can't argue that.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: But I hate and like Roy Keane lamented him a few years ago as well, saying he's just he's not a leader, he's not a captain.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: And that and that's what they were saying, as a captain.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: So that they were like he was giving out to his own players the last day throwing his hands in the air, and but then he came up with a moment of brilliance and all of that is forgotten.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
24:27
SPEAKER_00: That's where he he's kind of cheating his way through.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean that in like he's getting away with it as usual just because he's kind of going, Ah, yeah, but sure I'll I'm alright, lads.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: I'll surely I'll come up and score this game.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: And he had the he had the post of the weekend.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I think that I see a stat that he is the Premier League's player that hits the woodwork the most.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm sure he won't want to hear that one too often.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Um again now we have uh uh is it a three-week break break?
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, the 10th of October.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: Just give whet your appetites during the uh the International Boar Fest, unfortunately.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh Arsenal will play on Saturday morning versus Leeds, Villa, Brentford, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Ipswich, Fulham, Sunderland, Brighton, Man United, Tottenham.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: That'll be a good uh who who can who can fail more?
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, then the Sunday Palace, Nottingham Forest, Hull play, Everton, Liverpool, Man City, Sunday Lemon, October.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, lovely.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: And uh then the Monday night football, Coventry versus Newcastle.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: That'll be a good dinger in the middle of the year.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a few there's a few good games there before you come back because obviously you mentioned the international break now, and like like it's it's it's a pet peeve of so many football supporters when you you're just getting into the swing of things, five games into the Premier League, and you get two weeks of international football that nobody really wants to be watching or playing.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: It's all uh it's this Nations League Nations League stuff where everyone goes, maybe it's a bit better than the friendly butcher.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: We don't even understand how it's then you're looking at you're looking at every every time you pick up the phone or pick up the paper, you see that this player and that player has pulled out of the squad.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: England had a load of players pulled out.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: Was it just they cried off or was it?
25:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if there's something going on with Tuccia and that.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: So obviously Cole Palmer was back in the squad after not being in the World Cup squad, and then he steps away from it.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, and I don't think Tuccia was overly happy about that either.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's it's it's one of these things that nobody wants these games, but obviously, this is where money talks and international football takes over now for two weeks.
26:17
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26:20
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26:23
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26:26
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