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- 0:00Book six, Part two. Then shall we proceed to show that the corruption
- 0:06of the majority is also unavoidable, and that this is not to be laid
- 0:10to the charge of philosophy any more than the other by all means. And
- 0:15let us ask and answer in turn, first going back to the description of
- 0:20the gentle and noble nature, Truth, as you will remember, was his
- 0:25leader, whom he followed always, and in all things, failing in this
- 0:29he was an impostor, and had no part or lot in true philosophy.
- 0:34Yes, that was said, well, and is not this one quality to
- 0:39mention no others, greatly at variance with present notions of him? Certainly he
- 0:45said, And have we not a right to say in his defense that the
- 0:50true lover of knowledge is always striving after being, that is his nature.
- 0:55He will not rest in the multiplicity of individuals, which is an appearance only,
- 1:00but will go on the keen edge, will not be blunted, nor
- 1:04the force of his desire abate, until he have attained the knowledge of the
- 1:08true nature of every essence, by a sympathetic and kindred power in the soul,
- 1:15and by that power drawing near and mingling and becoming incorporate with very being.
- 1:21Having begotten mind and truth, he will have knowledge, and will live
- 1:26and grow truly. And then, and not till then, will he cease
- 1:30from his travail. Nothing he said can be more just than such a description
- 1:37of him. And will the love of a lie be any part of a
- 1:42philosopher's nature? Will he not utterly hate a lie? He will? And
- 1:49when truth is the captain, we cannot suspect any evil of the band which
- 1:53he leads impossible. Justice and health of mine will be of the company,
- 2:00and temperance will follow after true, he replied, Neither is there any reason
- 2:07why I should again set in array the philosopher's virtues, As you will,
- 2:13doubtless remember that courage, magnificence, apprehension, memory were his natural gifts.
- 2:20And you objected that although no one could deny what I then said, Still,
- 2:24if you leave words and look at facts, the persons who are thus
- 2:29described, are some of them manifestly useless, and the greater number utterly depraved.
- 2:37We were then led to inquire into the grounds of these accusations, and
- 2:40have now arrived at the point of asking why are the majority bad? Which
- 2:46question of necessity brought us back to the examination, and definition of the true
- 2:50philosopher exactly. And we have next to consider the corruptions of the philosophic nature.
- 2:58Why so many are spoiled and so few escape spoiling. I am speaking
- 3:02of those who were said to be useless but not wicked. And when we
- 3:07have done with them, we will speak of the imitators of philosophy. What
- 3:12manner of men are they who aspire after a profession which is above them and
- 3:16of which they are unworthy, And then, by their manifold inconsistencies, bring
- 3:23upon philosophy and upon all philosophers, that universal reprobation of which we speak.
- 3:30What are these corruptions? He said, I will see if I can explain
- 3:36them to you. Everyone will admit that a nature having imperfection all the qualities
- 3:42which we required in a philosopher, is a rare plant, which is seldom
- 3:46seen among men. Rare, indeed, And what numberless and powerful causes tend
- 3:53to destroy these rare natures? What causes? In the first place, there
- 4:00are their own virtues, their courage, temperance, and the rest of them,
- 4:04every one of which praise worthy qualities. And this is a most singular
- 4:09circumstance destroys and distracts from philosophy the soul, which is the possessor of them,
- 4:16that is very singular. He replied. Then there are all the ordinary
- 4:23goods of life, beauty, wealth, strength, rank, and great connections
- 4:28in the state you understand the sort of things. These also have a corrupting
- 4:32and distracting effect. I understand, but I should like to know more precisely
- 4:39what you mean about them. Grasp the truth as a whole, I said,
- 4:44And in the right way, you will then have no difficulty in apprehending
- 4:47the preceding remarks, and they will no longer appear strange to you. And
- 4:53how am I to do so? He asked, why? I said.
- 4:58We know that all or seeds, whether vegetable or animal, when they fail
- 5:03to meet with proper nutriment, or climate or soil in proportion to their vigor,
- 5:10are all the more sensitive to the want of a suitable environment. For
- 5:14evil is a greater enemy to what is good than to what is not.
- 5:19Very true, there is reason in supposing that the finest natures, when under
- 5:26alien conditions, receive more injury than the inferior, because the contrast is greater.
- 5:32Certainly, and may we not say adeimantus that the most gifted minds,
- 5:40when they are ill educated, become pre eminently bad. Do not great crimes
- 5:46and the spirit of pure evil spring out of a fullness of nature ruined by
- 5:53education, rather than from any inferiority, whereas weak natures are scarcely capable of
- 5:59any very great good or very great evil. There I think that you are
- 6:04right, And our philosopher follows the same analogy. He is like a plant,
- 6:12which, having proper nurture, must necessarily grow and mature into all virtue.
- 6:18But if sown and planted in an alien soil, becomes the most noxious
- 6:25of all weeds, unless he be preserved by some divine power. Do you
- 6:30really think, as people so often say that our youth are corrupted by sophists,
- 6:35or that private teachers of the art corrupt them in any degree worth speaking
- 6:41of? Are not the public who say these things the greatest of all sophists?
- 6:46And do they not educate to perfection young and old men and women alike,
- 6:51and fashion them after their own hearts. When is this accomplished, he
- 6:57said, when they meet together and the world sits down at an assembly or
- 7:01in a court of law or a theater or a camp, or in any
- 7:05other popular resort. And there is great uproar, and they praise some things
- 7:11which are being said or done, and blame other things, equally exaggerating both
- 7:16shouting and clapping their hands, And the echo of the rocks and the place
- 7:21in which they are assembled redoubles the sound of the praise or blame At such
- 7:28a time. Will not a young man's heart, as they say, leap
- 7:31within him? Will any private training enable him to stand firm against the overwhelming
- 7:39flood of popular opinion? Or will he be carried away by the stream.
- 7:45Will he not have the notions of good and evil which the public in general
- 7:48have? He will do as they do, and as they are such?
- 7:53Will he be, yes, Socrates, necessity will compel him. And yet
- 8:01I said, there is a still greater necessity which has not been mentioned.
- 8:07What is that the gentle force of attainder or confiscation or death, which,
- 8:13as you are aware, these new sophists and educators who are the public apply
- 8:20when their words are powerless. Indeed they do, and in right good earnest
- 8:26Now, what opinion of any other sophist, or of any private person can
- 8:33be expected to overcome in such an unequal contest. None, he replied.
- 8:39No, indeed, I said, even to make the attempt is a great
- 8:43piece of folly. There neither is, nor has been, nor is ever
- 8:48likely to be any different type of character which has had no other training in
- 8:54virtue, but that which is supplied by public opinion. I speak, my
- 8:58friend, of human virtue. Only what is more than human, as the
- 9:01proverb says, is not included. For I would not have you ignorant that
- 9:07in the present evil state of governments, whatever is saved and comes to good
- 9:13is saved by the power of God, as we may truly say. I
- 9:18quite assent, he replied, Then let me crave your assent also to a
- 9:24further observation. What are you going to say? Why that all those mercenary
- 9:31individuals whom the many equal sophists, and whom they deem to be their adversaries,
- 9:37do, in fact teach nothing but the opinion of the many, that
- 9:43is to say, the opinions of their assemblies, And this is their wisdom.
- 9:48I might compare them to a man who should study the tempers and desires
- 9:52of a mighty, strong beast who is fed by him. He would learn
- 9:56how to approach and handle him, so at what times and from what causes
- 10:01he is dangerous or the reverse? And what is the meaning of his several
- 10:07cries? And by what sounds when another utters them he is soothed or infuriated?
- 10:13And you misuppose further that when by continually attending upon him he has become
- 10:20perfect. In all this, he calls his knowledge wisdom, and makes of
- 10:24it a system or art, which he proceeds to teach, although he has
- 10:30no real notion of what he means by the principles or passions of which he
- 10:33is speaking, but calls this honorable and that dishonorable, or good, and
- 10:39evil or just or unjust, all in accordance with the tastes and tempers of
- 10:46the great brute. Good he pronounces to be that in which the beast delights,
- 10:52and evil to be that which he dislikes. And he can give no
- 10:56other account of them, except that the just and noble are the necessary,
- 11:01Having never himself seen, and having no power of explaining to others the nature
- 11:05of either, all the difference between them, which is immense by heaven,
- 11:11would not such a one be a rare educator? Indeed he would, And
- 11:18in what way does he who thinks that wisdom is the discernment of the tempers
- 11:22and tastes of the motley multitude, whether in painting or music, or finally
- 11:28in politics, differ from him whom I have been describing. For when a
- 11:35man consorts with the many and exhibits to them his poem or other work of
- 11:39art, or the service which he has done the state, making them his
- 11:45judges, when he is not obliged, the so called necessity of Diomede will
- 11:50oblige him to produce whatever they praise. And yet the reasons are utterly ludicrous,
- 11:56which they give in confirmation of their own notions about the honorable and good.
- 12:03Did you ever hear any of them which were not? No, nor
- 12:07am I likely to hear You recognize the truth of what I've been saying.
- 12:13Then let me ask you to consider further whether the world will ever be induced
- 12:18to believe in the existence of absolute beauty rather than of the many beautiful,
- 12:24or of the absolute in each kind rather than of the many in each kind.
- 12:28Certainly not. Then the world cannot possibly be a philosopher impossible, And
- 12:39therefore philosophers must inevitably fall under the censure of the world. They must and
- 12:46of individuals who consort with the mob and seek to please them. That is
- 12:52evident. Then do you see any way in which the philosopher can be preserved
- 12:58in his calling to the end? And remember what we were saying of him,
- 13:01that he was to have quickness and memory, and courage and magnificence.
- 13:07These were admitted by us to be the true philosopher's gifts. Yes, will
- 13:13not such an one from his early childhood be in all things, first among
- 13:18all, especially if his bodily endowments are like his mental ones? Certainly,
- 13:24he said, And his friends and fellow citizens will want to use him as
- 13:28he gets older for their own purposes, no question falling at his feet.
- 13:35They will make requests to him, and do him honor and flatter him,
- 13:39because they want to get into their hands now the power which he will one
- 13:43day possess. That often happens, he said. And what will a man
- 13:50such as he is be likely to do under such circumstances, especially if he
- 13:56be a citizen of a great city, rich and noble, and at all
- 14:01proper youth. Will he not be full of boundless aspirations and fancy himself able
- 14:07to manage the affairs of Hellenes and of barbarians, And having got such notions
- 14:11into his head, will he not dilate and elevate himself in the fullness of
- 14:16vain, pomp and senseless pride. To be sure he will now, when
- 14:24he is in this state of mind, if someone gently comes to him and
- 14:28tells him that he is a fool and must get understanding which can only be
- 14:33got by slaving for it? Do you think that under such adverse circumstances he
- 14:39will be easily induced to listen? Far otherwise? And even if there be
- 14:46some one who, through inherent goodness or natural reasonableness, has had his eyes
- 14:54opened a little and is humbled and taken captive by philosophy, how will his
- 14:58friends behead when they think that they are likely to lose the advantage which they
- 15:03were hoping to reap from his companionship. Will they not do and say anything
- 15:09to prevent him from yielding to his better nature and to render his teacher powerless?
- 15:13Using to this end private intrigues as well as public prosecutions. There can
- 15:20be no doubt of it. And how can one who is thus circumstanced ever
- 15:26become a philosopher? Impossible? Then, were we not right in saying that
- 15:33even the very qualities which make a man a philosopher, may, if he
- 15:37be ill educated, divert him from philosophy no less than riches and their accompaniments
- 15:45and the other so called goods of life. We were quite right. Thus,
- 15:50my excellent friend, is brought about all that ruin and failure which I've
- 15:56been describing of the nature's best adapted to the best of all pursuits. They
- 16:03are natures which we maintain to be rare at any time, this being the
- 16:07class out of which come the men who are the authors of the greatest evil
- 16:11to states and individuals, and also of the greatest good when the tide carries
- 16:17them in that direction. But a small man never was the doer of any
- 16:22great thing, either to individuals or to states. That is most true,
- 16:27he said. And so philosophy is left desolate, with her marriage right incomplete,
- 16:36for her own having fallen away and forsaken her. And while they are
- 16:40leading a false and unbecoming life, other unworthy persons, seeing that she has
- 16:45no kinsman to be her protectors, enter in and dishonor her, and fasten
- 16:52upon her the reproaches which, as you say, her reprovers utter, who
- 16:56affirm of her votaries that some are good for nothing, and that the greater
- 17:02number deserves the severest punishment. That is certainly what people say, Yes,
- 17:10and what else would you expect? I said, when you think of the
- 17:12puny creatures, who, seeing this land open to them, a land well
- 17:18stocked with fair names and showy titles, like prisoners running out of prison into
- 17:23a sanctuary, take a leap out of their trades into philosophy, those who
- 17:30do so being probably the cleverest hands at their own miserable crafts. For although
- 17:37philosophy be in this evil case, still there remains a dignity about her which
- 17:41is not to be found in the arts. And many are thus attracted by
- 17:47her, whose natures are imperfect, and whose souls are maimed and disfigured by
- 17:52their meannesses, as their bodies are by their trades and crafts. Is not
- 17:56this unavoidable? Yes? Are they? Not? Exactly like a ball's little
- 18:03tinker who has just got out of durance and come into a fortune. He
- 18:08takes a bath and puts on a new coat, and is decked out as
- 18:11a bridegroom going to marry his master's daughter, who is left poor and desolate
- 18:18a most exact parallel. What will be the issue of such marriages? Will
- 18:23they not be vile and bastard? There can be no question of it.
- 18:30And when persons who are unworthy of education approach philosophy and make an alliance with
- 18:36her, who is a rank above them, what sorts of ideas and opinions
- 18:40are likely to be generated? Will they not be sophisms captivating to the ear,
- 18:47having nothing in them genuine or worthy of or akin to true wisdom?
- 18:52No doubt, he said. Then adamantus I said, the worthy decided of
- 19:00philosophy will be but a small remnant. Perchance, some noble and well educated
- 19:07person detained by exile in her service, who, in the absence of corrupting
- 19:11influences, remains devoted to her, Or some lofty soul born in a mean
- 19:18city, the politics of which he contemns and neglects. And there may be
- 19:23a gifted few who leave the arts which they justly despise, and come to
- 19:27her. Or peradventure, there are some who are restrained by our friend the
- 19:33age's bridle, for everything in the life of the Aegees conspired to divert him
- 19:38from philosophy, but ill health kept him away from politics. My own case
- 19:45of the internal sign is hardly worth mentioning, for rarely, if ever,
- 19:49has such a monitor been given to any other man. Those who belong to
- 19:55this small class have tasted how sweet and blessed a ession philosophy is, and
- 20:02have also seen enough of the madness of the multitude. And they know that
- 20:07no politician is honest, nor is there any champion of justice at whose side
- 20:11they may fight and be saved. Such a one may be compared to a
- 20:15man who has fallen among wild beasts. He will not join in the wickedness
- 20:21of his fellows, but neither is he able singly to resist all their fierce
- 20:26natures. And therefore, seeing that he would be of no use to the
- 20:30state or to his friends, and reflecting that he would have to throw away
- 20:36his life without doing any good either to himself or others, he holds his
- 20:41peace and goes his own way. He is like one who, in the
- 20:45storm of dust and sleet which the driving wind hurries along, retires under the
- 20:52shelter of a wall, and, seeing the rest of mankind full of wickedness,
- 20:57he is content if only he can live his own life, and be
- 21:02pure from evil or unrighteousness, and depart in peace and good will with bright
- 21:07hopes, yes, he said, and he will have done a great work
- 21:14before he departs, A great work, yes, but not the greatest unless
- 21:19he finds a state suitable to him, For in a state which is suitable
- 21:25to him, he will have a larger growth and be the savior of his
- 21:29country as well as of himself. The causes why philosophy is in such an
- 21:34evil name have now been sufficiently explained. The injustice of the charges against her
- 21:41has been shown. Is there anything more which you wish to say? Nothing
- 21:47more on that subject, he replied, end of Book six, Part two,