Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The OIG Report Into Jeffrey Epstein's Death: The Events Of August 8-10 And Epstein's Death (Chapter 5)( Part 2)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're picking right up where we left
- 0:07off in the last episode, talking about the OIG's report
- 0:12into the circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death. Part D failure
- 0:20to assign Epstein a new cellmate on August ninth, Section
- 0:24one Daywatch staff actions on August ninth, the Shoe Lieutenant
- 0:29told the OIG that he worked at MCC New York
- 0:33on August eighth, twenty nineteen, from approximately six a m.
- 0:37Until approximately two pm, and that he was off on
- 0:41August ninth, twenty nineteen. The Shoe Lieutenant, who shift ended
- 0:46over an hour before the USMS sent the second email
- 0:49regarding in May three's impending transfer, told the OIG that
- 0:54he was not aware that in May three was scheduled
- 0:57to be transferred out of MCC New York, and therefore
- 1:00he did not notify the captain that Epstein would require
- 1:04a new cell mate. According to the Shoe Lieutenant, as
- 1:08soon as the Shoe staff learned that in May three
- 1:10would be transferred, they should have notified a lieutenant on duty,
- 1:14the day Watch Operations Lieutenant, and the day Watch Activities
- 1:18lieutenant told the OIG on August ninth, twenty nineteen, they
- 1:22had oversight of the shoe from approximately six am until
- 1:26two pm due to their position descriptions and because of
- 1:30the shoe lieutenant's absence. According to the mcc New York
- 1:34staff roster on August ninth, twenty nineteen, Shoe Officer number
- 1:39one was listed as Senior Officer Specialist number five, although
- 1:44Shoe Officer number one is typically the officer in charge.
- 1:47Another senior Officer specialist told the OIG that in actuality
- 1:53he was the day watch shoe officer in charge on
- 1:55August ninth from approximately six am until two pm. The
- 2:00day watch shoe officer in charge said that since he
- 2:03had the most experience and seniority, he was considered by
- 2:07everyone to be the shoe officer in charge, which the
- 2:10shoe lieutenant confirmed. The day watch shoe officer in charge
- 2:14told the OIG that he knew that Epstein had to
- 2:17have a cell mate. He said that as a general practice,
- 2:21every inmate who was transferred from suicide watch and or
- 2:24psychological observation to the shoe is placed with the cell mate.
- 2:29He also confirmed that the shoe lieutenant also instructed him
- 2:33that Epstein was to be housed with a cell mate
- 2:35at all times. According to the day Watch Shoe Officer
- 2:39in charge, between July thirtieth and August ninth, twenty nineteen,
- 2:44he told other mcc new York staff members who worked
- 2:47in the Shoe of Epstein's cellmate requirement, and further stated
- 2:51that everyone who worked in the Shoe should have known
- 2:54that Epstein was required to have a cell mate due
- 2:58to their knowledge, training, and expl experience. The day Watch
- 3:02Shoe Officer in charge confirmed that on the morning of
- 3:05August ninth, twenty nineteen, the Shoe staff received an inmate
- 3:09call out list that listed in May three as WAB,
- 3:13which he explained, meant that in May three was being
- 3:16removed from mcc new York. He told the OIG that
- 3:21sometime between eight am and nine am, he escorted Epstein
- 3:25to the Shoe to the attorney conference room for Epstein's
- 3:29daily legal visit, during which time Epstein joked around with him.
- 3:33The day Watch Shoe Officer in charge said that he
- 3:36and Epstein were accompanied by CO one, who was escorting
- 3:40in May three to receiving and discharge. The day Watch
- 3:44Shoe Officer in charge and CO One both told the
- 3:48OIG that in May three was escorted to receiving and
- 3:52discharge with all of his belongings, and both said that
- 3:56during the escort, the day Watch Shoe Officer in charge
- 3:59informed an Epstein that he would be assigned a new
- 4:02cellmate due to Inmate three's departure and the requirement that
- 4:05Epstein have a cellmate. In his interview with the OIG,
- 4:09CO One confirmed this conversation between the day Watch Shoe
- 4:13Officer in Charge and Epstein, but he did not provide
- 4:17any additional information regarding notifications made either by him or
- 4:22the day Watch Shoe Officer in charge. The day Watch
- 4:27Shoe Officer in Charge told the OIG that when he
- 4:30and the CO one left the Shoe with Epstein and
- 4:33in May three, both the day Watch Operations Lieutenant and
- 4:37the day Watch Activities Lieutenant should have been physically present
- 4:41in the Lieutenant's office and should have seen that in
- 4:44May three was departing the institution when they passed the office.
- 4:48The day Watch Shoe Officer in Charge said that while
- 4:51he did not expect in May three to return to
- 4:54mcc New York, there had been times when inmates had
- 4:57been escorted to receiving in discharge and as an expected removal,
- 5:02only to be returned to the shoe later the same
- 5:05day due to unforeseen circumstances. According to the day watch
- 5:09shoe officer in charge, he did not select a new
- 5:12cell mate for Epstein because he was not certain that
- 5:15in May three had been discharged from the institution, although
- 5:19he assumed that in May three would not return to
- 5:22the shoe. The day watch shoe officer in charge told
- 5:26the OIG that when his shift ended at approximately two pm,
- 5:30he informed the evening watch shoe officer in charge and
- 5:34Senior Officer Specialist five that if in May three did
- 5:38not return to the shoe, Epstein would need a new
- 5:40cell mate. Upon Epstein's return from his attorney visit, the
- 5:45day watch shoe officer in charge said he specifically recalled
- 5:49telling the evening watch shoe officer in charge, in the
- 5:52presence of a senior Officer Specialist five, make sure this
- 5:56guy gets a bunkie, to which the evening shoe watch
- 5:59officer in charge replied, all right. The day watch shoe
- 6:03officer in charge said that at some point that day
- 6:07it was likely that he also informed the day watch
- 6:10Operations Lieutenant, but he could not specifically recall if he
- 6:14had done so. The day Watch Shoe Officer in charge
- 6:17told the OIG that a replacement cell mate should have
- 6:21been identified as soon as it was confirmed that in
- 6:24May three had left the institution. He said a new
- 6:27cellmate could have been reassigned before the four pm Shoe
- 6:31count if it was known that in May three was
- 6:33not coming back, but the Shoe staff members had until
- 6:36Epstein returned from his attorney visit to assign Epstein a
- 6:40new cellmate. According to the day Watch Shoe officer in charge,
- 6:45Shoe staff definitely should have realized that in May three
- 6:49was not returning, both during the four PM count and
- 6:52when Epstein returned from his attorney visit later that evening.
- 6:56The day Watch Shoe officer in charge told the OIG
- 6:59that Epstein's daily routine was that he would be with
- 7:02his attorneys in the attorney conference room until approximately eight pm,
- 7:07so Shoe personnel had time to make a new cellmate assignment.
- 7:12He had all Shoe staff members share the responsibility to
- 7:15find a replacement cell mate, and that anyone assigned to
- 7:18the Shoe could have found another inmate to replace in
- 7:22May three. However, he also said that due to Epstein's
- 7:26high profile, the Shoe personnel should have asked a lieutenant
- 7:29to contact the psychology department to see which inmate should
- 7:33have been placed with Epstein. On August twelfth, twenty nineteen,
- 7:38following Epstein's death, the day watch Shoe Officer in charge
- 7:42wrote a memorandum to the wardens dating on Friday, August ninth,
- 7:46twenty nineteen, at approximately one fifty pm iOS, the day
- 7:51Watch Shoe Officer in Charge passed on to the oncoming
- 7:55staff members the evening Watch Shoe Officer in Charge and
- 7:58president Ship Staff Senior Officer Specialist five in CO two
- 8:03that in May three was going wab Ie with all
- 8:06of his belongings and possibly he may not return. Also
- 8:11that inmate Epstein number seven sixty three one eight DASH
- 8:15zero five to four will be needing a cell mate
- 8:18upon arrival from his attorney visit. The day watch Shoe
- 8:22Officer in charge departed the Shoe at approximately two PM
- 8:26and worked an overtime shift as a driver for mcc
- 8:29New York. He stated that he did not follow up
- 8:32with the Shoe staff to verify that Epstein had been
- 8:35assigned another cell mate. Mcc new York staff with responsibility
- 8:41for oversight and staffing of the Shoe during the day watch,
- 8:45including the Warden Associate, Warden one, the Captain, the Shoe Lieutenant,
- 8:49the day Watch Operations Lieutenant, the day Watch Activities Lieutenant,
- 8:53and the day Watch Shoe Officer in Charge, told the
- 8:56OIG that they all knew Epstein was required to have
- 8:59a cell pursuant to the Psychology Department's determination. They also
- 9:05confirmed that everyone who regularly worked in the Shoe knew
- 9:09of this requirement and that it was the responsibility of
- 9:11all Shoe staff to notify a supervisor upon learning that
- 9:15Epstein needed to be assigned the new cellmate due to
- 9:19Inmate three's transfer to another prison. The day watch Shoe
- 9:23Officer in Charge and CO one, however, were the only
- 9:26two mcc new York staff members working the day watch
- 9:30on August ninth, twenty nineteen, who told the OIG that
- 9:34they were aware of Inmate three's transfer and the need
- 9:37to assign Epstein a new cellmate. CO one's immediate superior,
- 9:42the day Watch Shoe Officer in Charge, was already aware
- 9:45of the need to assign Epstein a new cellmate, while
- 9:48the day Watch Shoe Officer in charge told the OIG
- 9:51that he made a number of notifications. Other witnesses couldnot
- 9:55confirm that he passed on information regarding Epstein's need for
- 10:00a new cellmate. The day Watch Operations Lieutenant and the
- 10:04day Watch Activities Lieutenant both told the OIG that they
- 10:07did not know in May three had been transferred out
- 10:10of the facility, despite the fact that both were recipients
- 10:14of the second email the USMS sent out on August
- 10:17eighth that included the information about in May three's and
- 10:21pending transfer out of mcc New York. On August ninth, Rather,
- 10:26the day Watch Operations Lieutenant and the day Watch Activities
- 10:29Lieutenant told the OIG that they believed in May three
- 10:33had been removed from MCC New York for a court appearance.
- 10:38The day Watch Activities Lieutenant did not recall in May
- 10:41three departing the institution with all of his belongings, or
- 10:45having any conversations with day Watch Shoe Officer in charge
- 10:49or anyone else regarding Inmate three's departure from MCC New York.
- 10:54According to the day Watch Activities Lieutenant, he did not
- 10:57know that Epstein was without a cell mate. Other senior officials,
- 11:02including the warden Associate Warden I, and the captain, were
- 11:05also unaware of Inmate three's transfer and the need to
- 11:09assign Epstein a new cell mate. These officials concurred that
- 11:14while all shoe staff and supervisors were responsible for notifying
- 11:18a supervisor in the chain of command of the need
- 11:20to assign Epstein a new cellmate, the day watch shoe
- 11:23officer in charge bore a primary responsibility for the notification
- 11:28because he was the shoe officer in charge and one
- 11:31of the two people who saw the inmate three leave
- 11:34the facility with all of his belongings. The Captain told
- 11:38the OIG that since Epstein was in the attorney conference
- 11:42room all day, no one may have even thought about it,
- 11:46and may have only become aware when they put Epstein
- 11:49back in his cell after his attorney visit that evening.
- 11:52The Captain said, as soon as the shoe staff became
- 11:55aware that Epstein was without a cell mate, they should
- 11:58have notified the evening watch Operations lieutenant. The Captain said
- 12:02that if he had been informed, he would have taken
- 12:04immediate action to ensure that Epstein was either assigned a
- 12:08new cell mate or monitored until that assignment occurred. The captain, however,
- 12:15was one of the recipients of the USMS August eighth
- 12:18email that notified members of mcc New York supervisory staff
- 12:23of inmate three transfer to another facility. The warden and
- 12:27associate warden did not receive this email. The warden told
- 12:31the OIG that he was off duty on August ninth,
- 12:34twenty nineteen. The warden said that in the event Epstein
- 12:38was without a cell mate, the plan was to review
- 12:41the situation and decide who should replace Inmate three, but
- 12:45that no inmate in the shoe was pre selected to
- 12:48replace in May three if this event occurred. All right,
- 12:52So we're going to wrap up this episode right here,
- 12:55and then in the next episode, we're going to pick
- 12:57up where we left off, and that's going to be
- 13:00with Section two evening watchstaff actions on August ninth. All
- 13:06of the information that goes with the episode can be
- 13:08found in the description box.