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10-26-26 Hour 2 - Ryan Harris/Broncos Offense/Jokic vs. Nuggets Fans/Trevon Brazile/Oh, By The Way! · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: So Raleigh has football Monday, and let's head out to
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  Speaker 1: every Monday at 8 o'clock by Ryan Harris.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? What's going on, boys?
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear.
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  Speaker 2: The complaints today. And, oh, by the way, Broncos countries
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  Speaker 2: demanding apologies from each.
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  Speaker 4: Of you three.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 3: You sound like you look.
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  Speaker 2: It's awful.
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  Speaker 3: Just shut him up.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. You sound like the abs are playing.
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  Speaker 2: How do you be so dominant against Tampa Bay? And
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  Speaker 2: then what happened, Moe? What happened?
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  Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on. I think we've got to leave
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  Speaker 3: Mosher down.
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  Speaker 1: See, this is what I'm in control today, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do in this situation. So Mosher,
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  Speaker 1: just zip it for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Heavy lies the crown.
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  Speaker 4: Don't you even do what I told you so today.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'll shut up.
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  Speaker 5: Ryan, you deserve it, though. Seriously, I mentioned it in
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  Speaker 5: the first segment of the show. Maybe it was the
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  Speaker 5: opponent in Seattle, because you saw what Seattle's defense did
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  Speaker 5: to Mahomes and the Chiefs last night. were we too
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  Speaker 5: hard on Bo Nix or was that, was that just
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  Speaker 5: rightful indignation after the way he performed the last.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of weeks?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we've got an expo to see whether or not
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  Speaker 2: that's an apology, Vic, but it's on the up and
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  Speaker 2: up right now. Cal, she's got it trending up, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think we've been exacting. I think Broncos
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  Speaker 2: fans and look, I'm from Minnesota originally, so I know
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  Speaker 2: what pain feels like, but let's be clear. The Broncos
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  Speaker 2: have earned the championship expectation in this town and in
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  Speaker 2: this region. And, We needed better from Bo, but he
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  Speaker 2: knew that. The coaching staff knew that. And I think
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  Speaker 2: with everything going on about the play calls, everyone missing
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  Speaker 2: how awesome this defense is, it's easy to lose track,
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  Speaker 2: but you beat the defending world champs in your building.
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  Speaker 2: You beat the Rams, right, who they looked good too
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  Speaker 2: until all of a sudden Arizona hit them. But then
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  Speaker 2: you beat Arizona on the road and really dominated. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things we've known about Bo Nix is
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  Speaker 2: he gets better when he can run the ball. He
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  Speaker 2: had that huge 62-yard run that really helped. But I
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  Speaker 2: think you could also see the relief in his mind
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  Speaker 2: because he knew he could play too.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it, though. Part of his game, Ryan, is
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  Speaker 3: just he needs to use his legs.
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  Speaker 1: And it felt like once he did that, everything kind
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  Speaker 1: of opened up and it gave him some confidence.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Was this offense in the game yesterday, were they amazing? No,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't have to be because they have a
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  Speaker 1: good enough defense where if they're just moving the chains,
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  Speaker 1: capitalizing on opportunities when they get them, that's all they need.
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  Speaker 3: And that's all Bo Nix needs to do.
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  Speaker 2: We also still don't know how good Bo Nix can
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  Speaker 2: be with a second and ten. I mean, 11 penalties
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  Speaker 2: for over 100 yards yesterday. How many times were the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos in second and 20 or third and 13? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough to call those plays. You never want to
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  Speaker 2: get into the spot as an offense where you're saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have to do too much here. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like Moe's being a husband on the weekends. Hey, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not trying to do too much of what you asked
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  Speaker 2: me to do. But it is true. There's also this
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  Speaker 2: pressure that, hey, if we take too many risks– We're
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  Speaker 2: going to put our defense in a bind time after time,
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  Speaker 2: but I really think people are overlooking that the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line has really started playing a lot better from McGlinchey
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  Speaker 2: all the way to Bowles. And then Jonah Coleman, he
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  Speaker 2: was such a spark. He's got a little bit of McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 2: Kamara kind of juice to him, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he does. And again, Ryan, I guess what I
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  Speaker 4: like the best, and I look at the third down efficiency,
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  Speaker 4: not great.
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  Speaker 2: I look at the total seven third downs converted in
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  Speaker 2: the last three games.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy. Yeah. You know, and you look at the, the,
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  Speaker 4: the first downs Cardinals win that battle, you know, Cardinals
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  Speaker 4: went time of possession battle, all this stuff, but you
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  Speaker 4: had the big plays. You finally had some big plays.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the Knicks Rome was great, but the Harvey score
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  Speaker 4: defeating that with defeating that blitz with this, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean? It's like, that's, That's big-time football right there.
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  Speaker 4: And that will hopefully maybe kick-start you and jump-start you
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  Speaker 4: into feeling better this coming week and then all the
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  Speaker 4: way down the road. How much can a game like
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  Speaker 4: this pay off?
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  Speaker 2: Well, tremendously. And just think about one of those explosive plays, too,
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  Speaker 2: the Marvin Mims catch. Did he look surprised that he
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  Speaker 2: was open and made a tackler miss? Right? I mean, like.
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  Speaker 2: So not only are you having these big plays, now
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  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims is like, I'm not going to look like
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  Speaker 2: that again on film, right? I'm going to go and finish,
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  Speaker 2: you know? I mean, he just looked like he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I caught the ball. I didn't go down. I'm running
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  Speaker 2: towards the end zone. Conversely, Bo Nix is flying, putting
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  Speaker 2: that ball in his suitcase as a carry-on and going home,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So not only do you have that performance
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  Speaker 2: of whether you're on the sidelines, on defense, hearing your
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  Speaker 2: teammates go, oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh. But you've
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  Speaker 2: got individual players like R.J. Harvey, like Marvin Mims, who
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  Speaker 2: now have seen themselves make the big play in Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton's offense. And everybody knows how good it feels to
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  Speaker 2: see yourself excelling in the program that you're at professionally.
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  Speaker 5: Why did it take so long? Well, it's got to
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  Speaker 5: be the right defense, right? And he unleashes a 62-yard
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  Speaker 5: touchdown run. But why did it take so long for
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos to push that button?
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  Speaker 2: That's on Bo. And let's be clear, the coaches are
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  Speaker 2: always telling the quarterback to make the play from the pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning could do it. Tom Brady didn't need to run,
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  Speaker 2: except for they both did need to run in the
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  Speaker 2: AFC championship game to stay competitive. You don't want to
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  Speaker 2: rely on that. And for Bo Nix, he's saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: I've got the most weapons ever. I want to find
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  Speaker 2: these solutions in this pocket. But he also has to
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  Speaker 2: be a football player. You saw that with Joe Burrow yesterday, too.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody look out for those Bengals. Oh, my God. But
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  Speaker 2: you need to have Bo Nix make the decision that
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  Speaker 2: he's the franchise quarterback, make that decision that he's tired
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  Speaker 2: of whatever questions there were, whether or not he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the starting quarterback. And he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get the monkey off his back and go home, tuck
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  Speaker 2: his daughter in after a big win in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: and get ready for work on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: you know what, Ryan, was interesting to me is we've
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of discussions about the running game in general.
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  Speaker 1: Forget the Bo Nix part of this, just the running backs.
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  Speaker 3: Why can't R.G.
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  Speaker 1: Harvey get going? Why can't J.K. Dobbins get going? Jonah
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  Speaker 1: Coleman comes off the I.R., and immediately looks like a
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  Speaker 1: more decisive back who finds a hole and goes through it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that this was a running back issue
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the year? Can Jonah Coleman fix this? Was
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line better in this game?
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  Speaker 3: What was it?
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  Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman's the best running back of the three at
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  Speaker 2: seeing the cutback lanes. To me, great running backs watch
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  Speaker 2: the linebackers, not the defensive line, right? Because if the
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  Speaker 2: linebackers are over pursuing, I'm going to have to bend
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  Speaker 2: that back and Here's the cutback lane. If they're under pursuing,
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  Speaker 2: now I got to slice it out front. He, Jonah
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  Speaker 2: Coleman can do both. And, you know, I know JK
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  Speaker 2: Dobbins didn't talk to the media yesterday. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's the right way to be a pro, but that
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  Speaker 2: room's a little too crowded for me. And to me,
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  Speaker 2: RJ Harvey is your workhorse back. He's shown you, he
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  Speaker 2: can do it all. He did it last playoffs. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: And then you got Jonah Coleman in there. That's to
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  Speaker 2: say nothing about other running backs on the roster, but
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think J.K. Dobbins is bringing enough juice
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  Speaker 2: right now. Maybe he needs to play more angry, but
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  Speaker 2: he looks like he hesitates at the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 2: which is an offensive lineman's nightmare. Get to the line
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  Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Make those backers declare, let me hit somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman's the best at doing it right now, but R.J.
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  Speaker 2: Harvey's that workhorse.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference between hesitancy and patience as a running back?
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  Speaker 1: Le'Veon Bell was patient, so what's the difference?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Le'Veon Bell could also split it for 65 yards
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  Speaker 2: and a touchdown. I haven't seen it from J.K. Dobbins yet,
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  Speaker 2: and so And one of the things, I played with him,
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  Speaker 2: and he was so quick to the line. Hesitation and
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  Speaker 2: patience is at the line of scrimmage with your hand
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  Speaker 2: on a lineman's back because you're waiting for the linebacker
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  Speaker 2: to identify. Being hesitant is getting the ball and taking
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  Speaker 2: a jump cut in the backfield before you even get
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  Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage, and you're not dictating anything
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  Speaker 2: now as a running back. So you want your back
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  Speaker 2: to be patient at best in the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 2: But you can't be making decisions back there without getting
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  Speaker 2: in the line of scrimmage, sticking your nose in it.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan, it really is a symphony, though, when you're running
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  Speaker 4: the ball effectively. Because, again, you're talking about a running back.
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  Speaker 4: Is he supposed to go through the A gap? But then,
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  Speaker 4: like you just talked about, does Coleman have the ability
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  Speaker 4: to cut it and go through the C, right? Because
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  Speaker 4: these guys have over-pursued and so on. But it's about
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  Speaker 4: getting to the line of scrimmage at the right time.
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  Speaker 4: It's about the ability to recognize. So his brain's working.
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  Speaker 4: Then he's able to cut back and go through the C,
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  Speaker 4: and that may be an extra 12 yards. It really
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  Speaker 4: is kind of a cool thing when it works right
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  Speaker 4: and it goes well to see how those plays really
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  Speaker 4: do develop and how much the running back has choices.
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  Speaker 4: He's got freedom. He's got free will.
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  Speaker 2: And it reminds me a lot of the way that
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  Speaker 2: Terrell Davis and others would run the ball, right? When
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  Speaker 2: you run the zone run game and you run it well,
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  Speaker 2: the defense cannot be right. Either they're going to plus
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  Speaker 2: over with their backers or bring pressure frontside, which means
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  Speaker 2: you've got better math on the cutback, right? Not to
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  Speaker 2: mention if you start running weak to begin with. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing this does is Jonah Coleman's production is going
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  Speaker 2: to make defenses play a little more vanilla. Because he's
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  Speaker 2: cutting back, because he's slashing forward, now they're going to
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  Speaker 2: wait until he dictates what direction he's going to. That's
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  Speaker 2: enough hesitation for a lineman to slip up there or
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  Speaker 2: a tight end to get to that second level and
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  Speaker 2: really widen it. But these are– I mean, take note.
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  Speaker 2: When Coach Payton, after the game, says we've got to
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  Speaker 2: get him more touches, he doesn't say that about a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. And so Jonah Coleman is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a big piece of this offense moving forward.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, did you happen to see yesterday, we're talking about
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  Speaker 5: bad calls in the NFL, and I'm beside myself.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing anymore. Cam Scadaboo ran.
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  Speaker 5: The ball for a first down, and he ran over
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  Speaker 5: a dude, and they called him for leading with the
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  Speaker 5: crown of his helmet.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just trying to, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, as little football as I played into my adult life,
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  Speaker 5: although I did play inter-hall full-contact football in Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 5: and you know how violent that is, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's very violent.
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  Speaker 5: What is a running back supposed to do with his
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  Speaker 5: head if he's running forward?
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  Speaker 2: You cannot do what Cam Scadaboo did. And let's be clear,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL is also, I mean, the NFL, the referees,
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  Speaker 2: in my conspiracy opinion, without any information, they want to
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  Speaker 2: send Cam Scadaboo a message, hey, calm down. But you
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  Speaker 2: cannot lower your head like that. In that play with Scadaboo,
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  Speaker 2: it hit directly into the middle of the chest. Now,
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  Speaker 2: two things can happen. One, you can break somebody's sternum. Two,
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  Speaker 2: you can break your own neck. And so the NFL
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  Speaker 2: really is trying to get running backs out from doing that.
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  Speaker 2: You got a same leg, same shoulder, that thing, like
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  Speaker 2: your Burnsy out there. So what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Explain that to me. So where does he put his
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  Speaker 3: head exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Where is he supposed to? You have to put your
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  Speaker 2: head parallel to the defender. So I'm coming to run
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  Speaker 2: you over. I'm going to same shoulder, same leg you,
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  Speaker 2: but my head, is parallel to my body and parallel
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  Speaker 2: to you, the defender. But the minute that I come
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  Speaker 2: at you and I lower my crown, now, too, the
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  Speaker 2: defender has to jump up to try and make a tackle.
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  Speaker 2: So you're getting them off their feet and increasing the
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  Speaker 2: pressure and violence into their chest. Not a good play.
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  Speaker 2: Throw the flag.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Harris with us.
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  Speaker 1: Join us every single Monday to break down the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: and the football weekend. Ryan, appreciate it, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Love you, boys. Go Browns. I told you so.
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  Speaker 4: I told you so. I told you so. Look at me.
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  Speaker 4: I won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that apology, Mose.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Listen, last thing. I'm sorry. All I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: see was what I knew was in there, and I
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  Speaker 4: saw some of that yesterday, and that was good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, just because you got everything you wanted, now you're happy.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Pretty much. All right. Pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: I feel so sorry for your wife.
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  Speaker 4: Love you, boys. See you, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Later, Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Harris joins us every single Monday.
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  Speaker 4: 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 1: A whole bunch more to get to. Again, what would
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  Speaker 1: you classify that Broncos offensive performance?
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  Speaker 3: Was that the.
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  Speaker 1: Standard of what they should do every week? Is there
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  Speaker 1: more to be desired? We'll get to it in just
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  Speaker 1: a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Stick around. Allow me to get comfortable, boys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: Wait.
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  Speaker 3: I'm back in the seat. Who's pushing the buttons? Kevin
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  Speaker 3: is pushing the buttons now. We have a different button pusher. Kevin,
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  Speaker 3: show yourself. Yeah, he doesn't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: He's absolutely, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway. Hey, Bronco's got a big dub, though. And I
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  Speaker 4: call it a big dub because, again, just ask Ryan
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  Speaker 4: about that, guys. can this sort of put you on
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  Speaker 4: your way a little bit? You know, you had some
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  Speaker 4: big plays, Vic, and that was huge for me. It's the,
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  Speaker 4: it's the explosive plays that have been so hard to
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  Speaker 4: come by and you had multiples and that's, that's a
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  Speaker 4: good thing. Some of the usual suspects crept up like
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  Speaker 4: third down and time of possession and first down and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there are third down conversions and, and total
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  Speaker 4: first down and so on. But the explosive plays were
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  Speaker 4: good on offense. It got you to 30, man. That's,
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  Speaker 4: That's the way it should be. Brett, you asked that
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  Speaker 4: question before the break. You know, is this good enough?
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  Speaker 4: I would say no, not to get to where you
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  Speaker 4: want to go, but for this weekend against the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 4: it was good enough. All right.
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  Speaker 1: 377 yards of offense. They had 218 passing yards.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Rushing was 159. Big run from Bo Nix. I like that, though.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I guess the way I'd put it is I think.
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  Speaker 1: This on a typical week is good enough.
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  Speaker 3: With how this team is built. With your defense, it is. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You always want better. You would love to be better.
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  Speaker 1: But I think on a typical week, this is something
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  Speaker 1: that should be like your standard game.
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  Speaker 3: Are you guys crazy? They scored 30 points. If you
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  Speaker 3: give me 30 points a game, they'll go to the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: No, yeah, Vic. Well, yeah, I agree. But what I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to tell you is that you're going to be
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  Speaker 4: playing better teams.
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  Speaker 3: Most. But you didn't say that. You said the reference,
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  Speaker 3: the standard.
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  Speaker 4: But I said if you want to get to where
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  Speaker 4: you want to go– it's not going to be good enough,
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  Speaker 4: but for now it is.
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  Speaker 5: If you give me 30 points, given whatever opponent, and
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  Speaker 5: you score like they scored, yeah, that's good enough. It isn't, again,
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  Speaker 5: you're not looking at the Peyton Manning-led 2013 offense where
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  Speaker 5: they would throw seven touchdowns on the board and complete
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: drive after drive. You're not looking at the 98-99 Broncos
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: offense where they just cream people up and down the field.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: That's not what we're seeing here. You're seeing a lot
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: of stalling.
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: You're seeing a lot of You know, it's one of
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: those engines that stops and starts every once in a while.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: But it's good enough.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, part of that, too, is, Moshe, you said against
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: better opponents. They've played better opponents with much worse offense.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: No, agreed. Agreed.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: It's bizarre. But that's when you're asking your defense to
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: just absolutely pull all the weight every single week, right?
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: And I just don't think that's a long-term viable solution.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: But for now, against that team, it was absolutely good enough, yeah.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: But again, when you start to get into the postseason,
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: and the venue has everything to do with it, God,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I hope they can reel off a ton more wins
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: and get some home field advantage here. Because if you're
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: talking about going to Buffalo or going to Kansas City,
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: that's where it gets to be laborious. But for now,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: it's completely fine.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Overall, I think that the amount of people that were
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: kind of involved in the offense too, and these numbers
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: aren't going to blow anybody away, but you got all
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: three running backs, a healthy dose of touches. You got
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the ball to waddle four different times. Sutton had three
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: catches for 45 yards, and it's only three catches, but
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: it did feel like impactful in a way that it
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: hadn't previous to that. It just felt like it was,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: everything was flowing at the way it should. It was
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: nothing that blew you away, But in comparison to what
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I've been witnessing, it did feel like that was a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: giant step forward.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: The only concern I have offensively now is the status
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: of Jalen Waddell, who hurt himself on that failed reverse attempt.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: And he was holding that shoulder, that chest, and to
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: be helped off the field.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know where that's going to end up. He
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: could miss some time. We shall see. I didn't like
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: his reaction to that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: After the game, I don't know if you guys watched
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton's post-game comments, but he took full ownership.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Of what he called a terrible play.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: He even called that out himself. At the end of
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: the press conference, he goes, no one's going to ask
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: me about the reverse? And then he just sort of
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: knocked himself for calling that play.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Now, to go to some other things, Moes, you weren't
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: here for this discussion yet. With the Nuggets, my question was,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: does the first three quarters stick out more than just
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the fourth? And I know it's a combination between the two.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Knowing that the Nuggets are capable of doing this, we've
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: known it forever. Like, that's the kind of team that
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: they are, okay? My favorite thing, I don't know, this
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: is probably four or five years ago, but if the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Nuggets were down 10 at halftime, I would tell everybody,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: because I don't bet, I'd be like, I'd throw it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: on the money line on the Nuggets for the second half,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: because they're going to come back and make this thing
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a game and probably win.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: It's what they do.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: But to do that against a team like New Orleans
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: just doesn't sit right. You take what you witnessed in
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: game one against the Thunder, right?
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Great defense. You just couldn't score.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: And then you're facing a Pelicans team where you couldn't
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: get a stop, but you were scoring a ton.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And it was just kind of the inverse of each other.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But when the crowd boos, I am always of the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: mindset that there's usually a reason why the crowd is
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: booing and everybody can feel it. Like, even the players know, like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: this is not good enough. We asked you the question earlier,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: if the Avs were playing at home yesterday, they're probably
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: getting booed for that performance. Now, Joker's response was weird.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Because he's the guy who says all the time, and Vic,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you've heard him. He's like, oh, what, you think this
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: is a lot of pressure? Have you ever played in
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Serbia before in front of those fans? And you've seen
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the video, the streamers and smoke bombs, all the stuff
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that people are doing. That's why his reaction of... I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: don't think they should be allowed back really weirded me out.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Mosier.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I told our Swiss army knife over here, Brett Kane,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: who's handled every job known to man this morning. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: told him earlier, I said, you know, I've, I've known
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Nicole and now 10 years running. As soon as he
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: got in the league, I, I can't tell you. I,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I can't remember the last time I.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Disagreed with him on anything of this nature.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: And this has to be the first time I just
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: respectfully disagree. We agree to disagree on this. I, I,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: I believe it's a fan's right to respond, and if
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: a fan wants to boo, that doesn't make him less
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: of a fan. It's just that's the emotion of being
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: a fan. I've never understood why people get so offended
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: by boos. Now, you could take it too far. Some
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: of those fans that go wacko, right, and start yelling
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: and stuff.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: You've seen– you've been at the arenas. You turn around
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: and you're like, dude, shut up. Calm down.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: You know those ones.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: But a smattering of boos when the team defensively is
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: bringing no energy, big deal.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, Vic, with the booing for a team
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: like the Nuggets, it's not out of you suck. It's
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: not that. No.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: It's out of– We know you're better.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: You're good. You're really good.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: And what you're doing right now, you guys know it
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: on the floor. Being down to the Pels by 19
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: going into the fourth quarter is unacceptable. It's a winless team, okay?
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: They got some dudes, fine, but it's a winless team. club,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: and you're in your home opener. You shouldn't be down
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: by 19 going into the fourth quarter. Now, you pulled
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: it out because you've got some star players who really
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: lit it up in the fourth and in overtime, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: that's great. But it comes out of a position of expectation.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: It comes out of a position of belief by the crowd.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And when they're not, they know what they're seeing out
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: of you. They know what they should see out of
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: you because we've seen it before. They've been trained that
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you're good and you are good. So behave like it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: And they're expressing their frustration, and I think rightfully so.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: If you guys missed it, this was Joker postgame.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: I'm actually so glad that you mentioned that because we
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: get booed the first home game, and I think those
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: fans who booed us, they don't need to come anymore.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Because if you guys follow us, you know that we
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: never quit, and we came back from much.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Worse of a situation, so.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: If they ask me, they're not welcome anymore.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Is there any part of that that was tongue-in-cheek? I
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: don't know. I wasn't there. And I wasn't.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: There for the entire proceeding, so I don't know. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I guess my retort to that would be those are
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: the same fans that were there, the same fans you
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: saw in the arena Saturday night were the same fans
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: that were there for the entire Minnesota series.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: This is almost a carryover, right?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Those are the same fans that have sold out that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: arena for four years running.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, Vic, why he would take offense
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: to that either because he's the guy who never does.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? He's an incredibly logical, understanding
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: guy in that regard. So for him to go full on,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: don't come back anymore, it's surprising to me. And I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: don't know really why he's hurt other than, Maybe he
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: feels the pressure, or there is some sort of internal
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: pressure he's putting on himself or they're putting on themselves.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the meaning would be.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: My only, I'm trying to put myself in his shoes, is, listen,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: you guys out there, you panic. We knew we were
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: going to win the game, and we were just going
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: to push that button, and we were going to get
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: back into the game.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Trust us.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to, I'm speaking from his perspective. That's all.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to speak from his perspective. But I know
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: fans that were there.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Because I was in the arena, and I heard the boos.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I heard them. They're not booing your skills. They're not
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: booing your person.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: They're booing the lack of defensive energy, the layup line
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that they witnessed in the third quarter.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: When a team shoots over 50% on you, that's on you.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: And the team that played the night before and all
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the things going into it. Listen, man, this might turn
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: out to be a big nothing burger, and I hope
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: it is, but– I sort of take Aaron Gordon's approach
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: to it because A.G.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Was asked the same question.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Kevin, do we have the A.G. response? No, not right now. Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: we don't have it because I sent it to the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: group chat.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Aaron Gordon's response was, hey, man, this is a sports town.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Fans get emotional. Fans get passionate. And that doesn't mean
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: they hate you. It means, hey, let's go. That's all
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: it means.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Here's A.G.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's a sports town, man. So if you're not playing well,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: they're going to let you know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: And when you are, they're going to let you know
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So I'd rather the boos than them go quiet.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Apathy is the worst thing. Guess who's feeling the apathy?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Rockies.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Correct. Apathy. The opposite of love is not hate. The
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: opposite of love is apathy.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And if you have a fan base that's apathetic, then
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: they– if you have a fan base that's apathetic, Vic,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: you know you suck.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: They know you suck. There's no expectation on a nightly basis.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: They're just going there to just because they had tickets,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever the case may be. I am trying
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: to think around like we played in the past. We'll
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: get to the abs soon.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Let's say you're playing up. There were no when the
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: abs were beaten up on Calgary a couple of weeks
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: ago in Calgary in the back to back. Nobody at
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: the Saddledome is booing the Calgary Flames.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Because they stink.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Because they know that their team is in rebuild mode,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: and they know that this is what's to be expected. Yeah.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: When you allow the Pelicans on a back-to-back night to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: shoot over 50% from the floor, that's not to be expected, bro.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, so just real quick. It's two games. I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: obsessed with Trevor in Brazil. Obsessed.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: 6'10, that athletic, willing to shoot the ball.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: What a weapon to have in your back pocket.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It's beautiful.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: That guy, I'm sticking to it. He's the human pogo stick.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to call him. He's just bouncing everywhere.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: He's just the guy. Is this what I'm talking about, Vic?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: That's your Peyton Watson replacement is what it is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: He's a bigger version of Peyton Watson.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He can defend. He can rebound. He can hit an
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: open three.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, it may look different when teams start
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: scouting him and preparing for him, but you can't ask
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: for a better start.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: He played the entire fourth quarter in overtime. He rescued them.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: And that's the other thing about that game, guys. You know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: the defense was nowhere to be seen or heard from.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: But at the start of the fourth quarter, when they
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: put that second unit in there, they're the reason they
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: won the game.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yep. Because they brought some defensive intensity.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: To that game. Needed somebody to pop. I needed some
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: found gold. And so I get a text from our
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: resident redneck, Brandon, the Arkansas fan. Well, if you'd watched
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: any Pigs basketball, then you would know. I'm not watching
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Pigs basketball, bro.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Pass.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Okay? I'm not fixating it on your Fayetteville Pigs. I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: not doing that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: So when he gets to the NBA and he gets
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: to this level, and then I'm like, in summer league,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa. Now when he's doing it in real life,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: this is real life, bro. This is not playtime summer league. No,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: he looks like he belongs. He does look like he belongs.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: But if you're the Denver Nuggets and you want to
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: win– and you're in the cap hill that you are
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: and all this, you need some pops. You need some
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: found goals.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: From cheap contracts.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: This guy looks like it already.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yes. That too.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Now, Moj, you need to explain something to me. How
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: can the Avs do what they did Friday and then
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: do what they did yesterday? Why can't they get.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Off to a faster start? The first periods are just
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: killing them. Tell me if I'm wrong here, Moj.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They've either played elite-level hockey– Or as bad as they
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: can possibly play with, like, no in-between.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: That is correct. Why? No, they've had shades of in-between,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: but it's typically this season been one or the other. Brett,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I do not know. I don't know if you heard
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Jared Bednar from last night. It was just a couple
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: of questions. Not a whole lot of people were there
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: on a Sunday night in Nashville. But it's, to me,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: inexplicable how a team– and it's not like guys aren't
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: trying– Because I see guys trying, but I see a
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: real lack of cohesion right now. I just see guys
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: at points trying to do too much, then guys deferring
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: when they shouldn't. I just see a team that's, there's
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: a wrench stuck in the gears right now at times,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: and they paraded to the penalty box against a team
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: that came in fifth in the league on the power play.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: You can't do it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Motion well here's let's listen to betsy after the game
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: all right let's do it we.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Should have been the team with more energy um the
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: quicker team tonight with them playing the.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Back to back on the road and us here waiting
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: for them and it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Looked like it was the exact opposite and some of
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: the things we talked about was using our skating to
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: make sure that like to check to attack and you
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: know we were we just looked like we were the
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: most sluggish group and then The second thing we talked
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: about was making sure we stayed on the penalty box,
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: and that was the exact opposite too. Timmy's took penalties
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: as a team with a really good power play, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: then they were chasing the game right out.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Of the gate.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: That's exactly what happened.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He's had a lot of those monotone, what the hell
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: just happened.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: He also said, I'm going to take some time to
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: think about this one. As if to suggest that changes
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: are in the works.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I think that every team– I mean, last year was
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: such a wonderful year. They didn't lose their fourth game
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: of the season until January. It's crazy. That's right.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's nuts.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: You're so right about that. And so it was such
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: a wonderful just, you know, two 10-game winning streaks, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: right out of the gate and all this. that teams
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: will go through a funk. They'll get in a little
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: bit of a funky-dunky situation. Yours happens to be right
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: now here at the beginning because they're still a really
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: good hockey club. Don't get me wrong. They really are.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: But I think if he had the answer, he would
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: fix it like that. You've got time. Here's the good part.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Off today, off tomorrow. Wednesday, revenge game against the Devils
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: and possibly Hellebuck's first start for New Jersey. Yeah. Then
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: day off, day off, and then Halloween, Calgary comes to town.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: So you're going to have plenty of time, guys, plenty
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: of time to watch film. And you know what you're
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: going to have to do? You're going to have to
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: sit there and watch what you're not doing right. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: this is, I think, if you want to look at
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: it in a positive way, you want a silver lining,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: a real opportunity to learn what the hell is going
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: on right now. And he's going to break it all
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: down so that everybody can understand exactly what what the
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: situation is, but they are getting beat to pucks. I mean,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: they're getting, they're getting four check to death. I said
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: last night at the postgame show when you look at
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the first period of that pittsburgh game that kind of
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: was the blueprint now you were able to bust through
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: that and you beat them up pretty good five to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: two but philly did the same thing and you didn't
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: respond jersey's speed did the same thing you didn't respond
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: you got to respond at some point you have.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: To Well, the Nuggets are coming off a thrilling overtime
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: win against New Orleans. They're back at it tonight against
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry in the winless Warriors. Pre-game coverage starts at 7.30
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: with Birdo, powered by Ramos Law. Then Kaz and Hastings
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have all the action with tip-off at 8.10 right here
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: on Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, next.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Bust those fools.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It's a Rally House Football Monday. Rally House shop every
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: team in town.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And it is also, oh, by the way, stories around
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: sports in the world we feel like you should be
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: aware of.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Moshe.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I'll start out here, guys. And I know that we
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: view Oklahoma City as a major rival, and they're a
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: great team, probably the best in the league. But what
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: we saw over the weekend was tough to see. Vic,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: you recall the Weisman situation back in the 80s, right?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: And that was the really– I'm still sickened by it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was really the first time, Brett, we ever
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: saw a leg explode.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Do you remember Tim– was it Tim Crumry? Is that
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: his name?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tim Crumry, the center for the– Bengals? Cincinnati Bengals, yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Alex Smith. Kevin Ware had a bad one in college basketball.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Paul Georges was bad.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but any time you see a leg– I still,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: to this day, any time I see a leg go
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the wrong way– or an arm, you know, when you
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: see a body part that you know is unnatural, it's tough.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: And Jalen Williams, their all-star guard, went off on a
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: stretcher over the weekend.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: It wasn't going the wrong way. It was dangling.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just, I mean, it was horrific. And
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: that's the kind of injury, guys, that's over a full year,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: not just a season. We're talking about a full year,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: but I wish him the best. You just hate to see,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: even though they're the rival and so on, you hate
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to see a guy... hurt that bad, and it was
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: horribly gruesome to see.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It's awful. I feel bad for the kid.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: He worked so hard to get in shape this year,
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: and I don't care how vicious the rivalry is.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I do not want to see that. I totally agree. Oh,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: by the way.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: And he's a guy that I, on that team, that
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I don't dislike. Well, I mean.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: What's to dislike? Even if you dislike someone, you don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: want to see that, right? Right. I mean.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Well, you're right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: But I don't... I have zero problem with that Jalen
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Williams at all.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Today, by the way, guys, is the Sports Equinox.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Are you familiar with the Sports Equinox?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: All four leagues are playing at the same time. Yep.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Today you've got a World Series game, Brewers and Rays.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: You've got a football game, obviously, Monday Night Football. You've
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: got three hockey games, and you've got a load of
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: basketball games. So if you're a sports fan... of the
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: professional variety. It does not get much better than this
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: on this October 26th. The sports equinox in the United
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: States of America.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: How many TVs you got in your house?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Use all of them.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, a.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Little more time for this throughout the week. Saturday, CU
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: allowing 57 points and 598 yards are both the most
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: allowed in the prime era.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: The last time they allowed.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: That amount of points and that amount of yards was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the final game before Coach Prime was hired. More interestingly,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: in Deion Sanders' last 20 games, he is 5-15 with
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: four losses by 30 or more points. In Carl Durrell's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: last 20 games as CU's head coach, he was 5-15
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: with four losses by 30 or more points.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Wow. So what do we do with that information?
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: They're also last place in the Big 12.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: What do we do with that? I don't know. I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: they look good at half. That's the thing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Isaac Wilson looked like he was spinning the ball pretty good.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: And then just fell apart. And here's the thing you
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: don't like to hear from your coach.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: This is, I think, the second in three weeks that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Deion said this after the game. Quote, I don't really
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: understand it. And that means you're not really, you don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: got answers.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, Vic.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You can't really blame the one problem being quarterback anymore, right?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: You give up 598 yards of offense.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: That ain't about Isaac Wilson. There's holes in the dam, right?
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: You plug one, another one breaks open, and that's what's
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: happening right now. And it just doesn't look good. Meanwhile, CSU,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: their defense, no matter how many coaches spend the night
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: at the office, they're giving up yards.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: But, man, that offense with Haney back, that offense without
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Haney was awesome. But Haney is, like, so fun to watch.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Watching him work? Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one for you. Oh, by the way,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: BYU's just going to lose to Scott Frost at UCF?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: That's just the next thing that they do after being.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Number two in the country?
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Dude, I watched that game. It's a great game. The
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: ending of that game, have you ever seen a more
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: chaotic ending?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Insanity.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: It was, I mean, just to get through regulation.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: I don't understand what happened. I still don't understand what happened. Now,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: they said the referees messed it up. Well, you thought
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: you had a fumble, but you didn't. You had a
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: forward pass.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: They ruled it. And then BYU had the personal foul.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And then the runoff of the clock, which they said
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: was not supposed to happen.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't know. I just don't know.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys something, and I hate to
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: do this. I hate to. Nobody in the Big 12
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: seems to be good.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I know BYU is, like, when I say good, I mean, like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: championship level.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: BYU just lost to UCF. Texas Tech just got beat
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: by Cincinnati. They were number eight in the country.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Utah's still looking okay. But that's happening in every league.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying, Vic.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Then I go to the Big Ten, and I'm like, well,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: now that Julian Sands got his arm in a sling,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: can you trust Ohio State?
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Because who's good in the Big Ten now?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Like, Indiana keeps scraping by in these wins, right?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Just scraping by.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: They barely beat Michigan over the weekend. Iowa loses to Minnesota.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin beats USC. Like, I don't know what to do
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in college football.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either. My daughter, it was homecoming in
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati this weekend against Texas Tech. And she says, yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the game. We're probably going
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: to get pounded. I said, yeah, you probably are going
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: to get pounded. Texas Tech's eighth in the country. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I texted her half the time and said, wow. She said,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of doubt, but I guess we
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: are the blank. I guess we're the S. I guess
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: we're the blank. I'm like, come on, man. But they
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: did play well.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: A couple other things here. This is remarkable. You guys
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: ever seen this before?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You ever seen a football team win 43-13 in the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: NFL with their quarterback throws for 64 yards?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: The Minnesota Vikings are.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's the Bucs. Baker Mayfield came back, and he was
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: 7 of 11 for 64 yards, and they won 43-13
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: against Carolina in Carolina. What is that? I don't know
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: what that is, but you tell.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Me a team scores 43 and the quarterback throws for
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: fewer than 100 yards?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: No, 64.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Not fewer than 100. 64.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Hey, I got one for you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, everybody familiar with country music star
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Luke Bryan?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his son plays football.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, his son is committed to Georgia.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: His son's got a cannon on him. Is this the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Luke Bryan that's on The Voice? Yes, I was driving
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: back from Watkins.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I took baby Jamal Cale to a pumpkin patch this
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: weekend over in Watkins. And it was a PSA, a billboard,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that just said, it was like, be nice. And Luke
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Bryan's face was just on it. Why is his face
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: on the billboard?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie to you.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I get a lot of those guys confused with two
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: first names.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I do too. There's a lot of guys in the
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: country with two first names. Which one did I play.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Golf with at the BMW? Yeah, that was him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: That was Luke Bryan. Yeah. That was the guy.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I played with that guy?
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you played with that guy. Now, the thing about
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: it is, he's a six-foot... What?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure you played with
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Luke Bryan.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Hold on a second.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: He's the guy on The Voice.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: It's not hard. You know who it is.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was the guy I played golf with, though. No, no, no, no.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: The guy on The Voice is Blake Shelton. He's on...
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Luke Bryan is on American Idol.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah, but you played with Luke Bryan. Just look
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: at his face. Google Luke Bryant.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it now. Yeah, that's Luke Bryant.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: So Blake Shelton's a completely different person.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Completely. Yeah, he's married to what's-her-face from that one.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Gwen Stefani. Yeah, her.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: With the fake blonde hair. Anyway, so his kid's 6'2,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: 105 pounds. Now, he committed to Georgia as a three-star
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: pocket passer, right? Pocket passer? Well, he commits to Georgia,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: but here are his other offers. Austin Peay, East Tennessee State,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: North Alabama. And UT Martin. And he commits to Georgia.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: They're doing homeboy of favor. They're doing homeboy of favor.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Homeboy. So he's going to– well, he's never going to play, right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: He's never going to– he's a three-star– he's a six-foot,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: three-star quarterback going to Georgia. He should just go to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Austin Peay and play his butt off.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Two more things here real quick.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: But no offense. I mean, the kid– I mean, you're
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Luke Bryan's kid and you play football. It's pretty awesome.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Vic, first of all, welcome to the club, buddy.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You have joined us in our– loser elimination pool because
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you have chosen the opponent of the Dolphins every week
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and they finally won a football game against the Jets.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: So welcome to the club. Glad to have you.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I told you, Vic, I said, I don't know about
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: that one. So I'm picking them. I wherever I pick,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: you're going to get yourself in the game.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: At least I got through the end of October. You
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: guys were eliminated yeah I know and you know what
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: I knew you were.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Gonna say that if that doesn't matter you didn't get
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to the end I but I knew you were.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Gonna say that um is that more surprising that the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Dolphins won a football game or is it more surprising
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that the Falcons beat the Niners.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Probably that the Dolphins won a football game because the
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Falcons with Pennix, a quarterback, are a different team. And,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: by the way, the 49ers, dude, did you see how
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: many guys are out of– they have eight starters out
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: of their lineup. Not only were they missing Samuel and
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Evans and a bunch of dudes, McCaffrey got banged up,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: said his leg went dead during the game. Did you
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: see that?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: They limped into their bye week, and now they're going
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: to get a bye week and try to get all
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: their guys back. But that doesn't really surprise me. They're heavily,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: heavily banged up.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Bro, everybody's banged up, though.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: They're heavily banged up.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Here's a couple more just quick ones.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Minnesota, who is basically kind of like the Broncos, they
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: have 10 touchdowns this season, and they're unbeaten.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: They have 10 touchdowns.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: They've had five in the last five games, and they
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: haven't lost. So they continue to do that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Dude, their defense is superb.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford over the weekend became just interesting. He's the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: all-time leader in passing touchdowns in both Lions and Rams history.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: He's the only player to ever do that for two
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: different franchises.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, Vic, who did he pass for the Rams? This
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: is going to blow your mind. Who did he pass
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: for the Rams?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: It's not Warner?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Vince Ferragamo?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, hold on. Let me think about this.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Trent Green.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Mark Colter. Nope.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Yes. Oh, um....
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: What's his name?
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: The guy who fumbled all the time.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember his name right now.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Roman Gabriel.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, Roman Gabriel.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Roman Gabriel, yes. He passes Roman Gabriel. And Gabriel played
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: in the time when they had the Whitehorns.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: He's nuts.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Back in the time when Andy Reid dressed up as
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: a ram for the punt passing kick.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: That is, oh, by the way, garage door making some
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: crazy noise. Don't ignore your garage door. Small problems lead
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to big problems. Call Don's Garage Doors for a tune-up today.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Back after this.