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Daytona 200 heat, WSBK storylines, and MotoGP talk all collide in S6 Ep 14 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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Welcome back to another edition of the Be Forever podcast.
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My name is Rex 45. What a weekend, Daytona 200.
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Welcome everyone to the podcast. We'll bring the guys in in a
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little bit, introduce them, see how their weekend was.
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But what a weekend a week was for me.
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Daytona 200 is pretty exciting to be there.
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It's one thing to be there as a fan, it's a different thing to
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be there on the other side of it.
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Very excited about it and can't wait to chop it up with the guys
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who's good to see Lewis and recent person as much as we do
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the the this thing. We got a whole bunch of things
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going on in our lives. So it makes it not always nice
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to be in the same place at the at the exact same time.
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So that was pretty cool to say and go chop it up with them and
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and see what it was. I want to thank all the people
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for liking for subscribing for commenting.
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Please continue to do that. It makes what we do easier on
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our end by just a little bit. So we love the engagement.
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We love what everyone's been saying and talking about and all
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that fun stuff. But I'm not going to continue to
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ramble on about that because we got a lot to talk about in Moto
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America. We got a lot to talk about in
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Moto GP World Super Bike and all that fun stuff.
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So let's bring the people in. What's going on, Louis?
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How you doing tonight? Hey good Rexy, how nice seeing
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you again. Been a couple of days since I
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saw you, but good to see you again.
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Good time. Anytime we can all get together,
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it's always fun to just hang out in person, you know?
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We don't do it too often, but it's cool what happens.
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No doubt, no doubt, man, for sure.
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Hopefully you got out there, got out in time and and got to all
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the the the spots you have to get to.
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The weather's pretty nice for Daytona, man.
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Yeah, I was surprised because earlier I was there earlier in
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the week, we had a bit of rain the week before.
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We had a little bit of rain in the days leading up to the
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Daytona. But from the Thursday through
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the Saturday the the weather was great, man.
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It was not. It was hot, but it wasn't too
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hot and it stayed dry. There was a little bit of a
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breeze. So it was just, you know, it was
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good, man. I can't complain all.
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Right, man. We're going to dive into it
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soon, man, TJ, man. What's good, man?
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How you doing, man? How's the bean?
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You know, we got the Sunday daylight saving change, so I
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feel like now we're back to normal, snow's melting, weather
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is in the 60s finally, but couple days it's going to go
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back down. But it's looking good.
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It's looking good. It was nice watching the day 202
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hundred for this weekend because you know, no world super bike,
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no Moto GP. So just to have something on the
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weekend is definitely good to see now that you know both of
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America's about to kick off so. No doubt, man, no doubt.
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I'm a little bit not necessarily disappointed about daylight
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savings. I mean, I saw that.
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Where where is it? West Coast of Canada over there.
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They did away with daylight savings.
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I don't know if all of Canada did away with it and there's
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there's something nice about doing away with it.
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Jamaica did away with it. Some other places have done away
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with it as well. I don't know if Jamaica ever had
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it actually. We were just a certain time of
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the year. We knew we lined up with the US
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on the East Coast side. What are your thoughts on
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daylight saving times, guys? Should we?
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Should the US just, I mean, I know it's been on the ballot.
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This is the most political, the show we'll ever get it to talk
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about daylight savings time. But what are your thoughts, man?
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Is it time for us to just kick this one down the road?
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End of life start with. DJ Man, I I mean, I'm sick of
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it. Like I feel like, you know, just
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live in New England once we once it changes into daylight savings
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and then it's just like, for me, it's just like dark times, you
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know, I mean, not dark times, but it's just dark all the time.
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And and she just can't really get nothing done on my end.
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And it's just so as soon as we get out, I just feel like it's
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just you just feel free. And I just think we should get
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away with it. Like, I mean, I I mean there's a
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point for it, but I don't see the point.
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But it was it was for farming back in the day is how I
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understood it. And we were we were helping the
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farmers out. Seems like, you know, again,
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it's not that kind of show. Flip over to the other channel
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but. Flip over to the Discovery
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Channel. This isn't our jam.
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Well, remember, not every state participates in daylight
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savings. Hawaii and Arizona don't
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participate in daylight savings, and neither do most of the the
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American. Islands.
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Islands, so you know, it's only, it's only the mainland in Alaska
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and in Alaska it doesn't matter because it's still going to be
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12 days of night time and 12 days a day and 12 hours of
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daytime over there because they just in the wrong part of the
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planet. Nah, I feel you.
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I feel you there, man. It it it's hopefully we'll we'll
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get there. I didn't like it this time
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around. I like it when we fall back.
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We should just continue to fall back.
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But I don't think it'll work. Maybe Fat Joe Guys, what America
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happened, DJ, And hopefully you got to watch it.
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We were fortunate to be there in person.
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What are your thoughts? We'll start with Lewis because
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he, you know, he was on the ground.
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What are your thoughts with it? I don't know if I asked on the
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show, did you go last year and what are your thoughts as far as
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the atmosphere between last year and this year?
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What are your thoughts man? Yeah, it was there last year.
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I mean, last year it felt like there were more competitors.
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I don't know if it's because they moved everybody to the
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garages on the right side only because last year I think they
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used garages on both sides. So it felt more spread out and
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there was more to do. And this year they only use the
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garages on the right hand side and everybody's kind of
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cluttered together. And some of the teams were
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actually in the in a parking lot in the overflow lot because they
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couldn't even get garages for whatever reason.
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Like, you know, they, they kind of squeezed it down into that
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spot. Overall, I think the attendance
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was close to what it was last year.
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Like for some reason, I feel last year there was more people,
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but maybe it was because it was more spread out.
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So as you walked around, it looked like there was more
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people. But I felt that there were more
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people last year than this year actually at the race itself
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because it's hard to tell who's there for the race and who's
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there just to use the campgrounds for their trailers
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to hang out for the weekend. Well, I mean, I was still, you
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know, I was, I, I was wondering about this, about camping and
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stuff like that. Can you camp out and get on the
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premises without having a ticket to entry Enter.
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You can you you can get infield parking tickets.
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Only. Only.
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OK. All right.
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So you can rent the spot for the week and it it has nothing to do
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with the events themselves. Right.
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Well, listen, man, if if that's the case and you know this is
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more for the people that come to Daytona, man, that's cheap.
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That's cheap because I I paid $20 a night.
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I had my own trailer, I had my own amenities, but they do
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provide bathrooms and shower. So $20 a night is going to be
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cheaper than a hotel. You got to do your own cooking
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or figure that out. But still, I mean, at that rate,
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man, you can't go wrong. Roaches.
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Exactly. You know what you brought.
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That's for. Sure.
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You know, you brought the same around of critters that you're
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taking with you 'cause I stayed at a sketchy, sketchy hotel,
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man. Like I told you, in my
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experience of my hotel, I have never stayed there again.
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Oh, man, listen, man, I I like having the amenities with me.
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If you can do it, it's a long good drive, but it's a it's,
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it's a, it's a nicer piece of mind, TJ, man.
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What are your thoughts as Reese is getting connected?
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What are your thoughts on on checking out the 200?
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We haven't even talked about the race yet.
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What what are your thoughts overall on the 200 man?
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I thought it was, you know, actually a pretty good race to
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see, you know, the obviously Josh Herron trying to go for his
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fifth Daytona 200 Wayne. So it was exciting to see that.
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But there's also other riders that I was excited to see out
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there like Richie Taylor, Darren benders, even out there.
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So like there's a lot of solid races that could that had a
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chance to know Blake Davis. But overall I thought the race
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was pretty, pretty nice. So there's one red flag, but a
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couple shake UPS between what was it, PJ Jacobson and and Josh
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Aaron? But it came out into Josh
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Aaron's hand. You know, he got lucky on that.
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But you know, it was it was a good race overall.
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It sucks to see Richie go down and felt like this was his year.
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But, you know, and it's just, it was an exciting industry.
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Right it it doesn't seem like it's been anybody's year for a
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few years. Now he had a better chance, I
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would say. You know, his, his, his past two
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faults. You know I.
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Mean, you know, I think PJ May may disagree with that one man.
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What's good man? Can you hear us?
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You know, I don't know where you are in the world.
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This witness protection program. No, man, I'm in North Carolina.
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I'm up here near Lewis, not too far from Lewis.
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OK. All right, man, You might as
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well pull up in the driveway, man.
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Let that. Pull this semi right in this
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driveway. But here you go man, I got
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something for you. Not like, hey, the DS are run
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all night. Trust me, I know, I know, I know
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about that. Good man.
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What are your thought? We you know, I was just asking
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the guys their overall thoughts on the weekend and stuff like
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that. We haven't talked about
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qualifying and who were the big surprises and then the race or
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anything like that. But what were your thoughts on
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the atmosphere? I don't make the assumption that
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you were there last year between this year, you know what are,
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you know, anything stood out to you.
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I mean, I think the weekend overall was good.
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I mean, I think there was a lot of red flags throughout the
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weekend. There was a ton of those.
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But for the most part, I think it was good.
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There was a lot of new faces, a lot of, you know, people there.
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The fan base wasn't too bad. I know they did a bunch of
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advertisement and the races were pretty good to see, you know, to
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see new faces all in it and to see Kayla up there and be the
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first woman to actually hit a podium out there in Daytona.
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Yeah, I mean, I guess let's talk about that.
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That is the first. I mean, you know, it is we we'll
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jump back into qualifying and stuff like that.
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But like, you know, that's pretty impressive.
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I mean, you know, we've been talking all of last year about
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Kayla and some of these other riders in the Super sport class.
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Obviously Heron is is really a super bike racer and it's more
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than I want. I don't want to say, you know,
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when people say they got Cheetah bikes.
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We got a. Cheetah Rider.
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Because you know, you need, you need, you really need to be up
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there on the big bikes out of respect at this point, but you
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know what I mean? For her to be able to do that,
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you know, I've been on record or at least on this show, so we're
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on record of saying that I felt like she should have jumped over
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to the world, the WCR and stuff like that.
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She's on record of saying she wants to compete with the boys
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for her to finish third on the podium.
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Maybe she might have been 5th if if a couple of people stayed up
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PJ and and and and Richie. But even still, that's a pretty
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amazing races because there's still a whole what, 32 grid or
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whatever grid that didn't finish in front of her.
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So, you know, it's huge. It sounds like she should just,
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you know, get in where she fit in, which is in the Super court
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class with the guys. I mean, I Oh, good.
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No, go ahead, go. Ahead, go ahead.
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Reese, I mean, no, that's fine. I mean, I I think she's she's
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growing up, you know, as they say, I think she's definitely
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growing up. She's she's showing her
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potential. I know Speeds has said that she
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has a lot of potential. She's she's willing to work
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hard. She works hard on our craft from
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what I understand. And she has a whole racetrack
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out in the front. And I know she does work with JP
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out there a lot. So, but she's showing her
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potential. I mean, she's still got a little
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bit more growing out to do like anybody else does when they're
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new or they're they're young. But she's she's coming along
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very nicely. And, and I think they're group,
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you know, speeds and JP over there.
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I think they're grooming that girl very well.
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And she's she's showing her crap and showing her talent.
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So I give her 1010 thumbs up, you know.
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I agree. I agree.
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TJ, what's your thoughts been on how she did and getting that
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third place? And, you know, he's funding a
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lot of a lot of people, a lot of mofos.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I, I agree with Reese.
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I give her two thumbs up. I mean, this girl's been working
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hard. You can see it from from way
15:41
back when. And every year she's only
15:45
approved, you know, like she's always pulling out the stats,
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always setting, you know, a trend in.
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She did really well. I remember last year when she
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participated in that, she pitted a little early on her first go
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around. I think the way they had the set
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up and I'm sure their strategy was way different.
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And when the race started, excuse me, when the race
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started, she was, you know, top six, you know, in front of, you
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know, running with the front and behind her was, you know,
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separated. So but, you know, she kind of
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lost her toe and, you know, kept the head in the game.
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And, you know, racing is racing. She's was fortunate to get that
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third place. And it's just just a good
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feeling to see that, you know. But listen, Tji don't know.
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I mean, I thought Sasquatch was out in like Yellowstone or
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something like that. You got 2 thumbs and I think
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Reese said 1010 thumbs. So I don't know if it's the same
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thing, man, you got some big. Thumbs.
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Hey man, I did say 10, you know, but I give her a prop, man, you
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got to give the girl her props. No doubt there.
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So TJ got some thumbs on them. That's all I'm saying.
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Numbers guy, what's the game? What are your thoughts on how
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she did? She did great.
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You know, I think there was a couple of people that showed up
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this round that did really well or did better than what most
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people expected. She was definitely one of those
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people that I don't think anybody expected her to be on
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the podium. I think most people expected her
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to be in that top 10 range, but not necessarily on the podium.
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But again, this is one of those races where your pit stop
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strategy and how smooth your pit stop goes and all these other
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factors come into play. And all of a sudden somebody
17:23
that was maybe in the lower half of the top 10 is in the upper
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half in the top ten. Just because you and your team
17:30
scheduled the pit stops the right way, you manage the tires
17:33
the right way, kind of everything has to come together
17:36
for the Daytona. It's not just the rider and pure
17:39
talent. It's the rider, his team, the
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tires, the fuel strategy, everything's going to line up.
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And you know, Josh Herring doing this on a, on a different team
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that he did last year just shows one thing that the, the team
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he's on makes this. This team, this Ray Hall team is
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legit. They have three riders in the
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top five. That means that their pit stops
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were on point. That means that they knew
18:03
exactly what they were doing. And if PJ had not gone down,
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they could have had four people in the top five.
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So this Ray Hall team is is legit.
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This is the real deal. These guys are coming to play
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and they're coming to play, right?
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And Kayla, you know, is benefiting from this.
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You know, it's it's helping her grow her talent.
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Josh Herman benefited from it because had he been on another
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team, maybe it didn't work out as well.
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You know, look at where kind of technically his replacement and
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Warhorse ended up outside of the top five.
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You know, could Josh Herron make up that difference?
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Probably not, because the same issues that they had during the
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pit stops for that rider could have happened to him, You know,
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So, you know, a lot of things have to come together here And,
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and they came together great for Kayla And that, you know, I, I
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give her a lot of props for being able to benefit and take
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advantage of the opportunity that was given to her.
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And, and, and get a bite, get herself out of the podium cause
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'cause, you know, think about who's right behind her man
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Darren Binder. That's, that's not a slouch.
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You know, last time I checked he's a pretty good rider.
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And and, and I was just going to go to that because I was going
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to jump into qualifying. Who stood out more?
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You know, was it Herron? Was it Tyler Scott?
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You know, Bend Bender, who again, to me was very surprised.
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And I know when when Petrucci came, Petrucci was to me.
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And you guys can correct me as far as the analytics was the
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first rider to me that came over from Moto GP in, in in Bendis
19:37
case is Moto 2 not going to come over, but to come over and do
19:40
well right away, come over and like, OK, so there you go.
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So and, and, and how many and how long ago was that before
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that? Right.
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But you know, there's not a lot. There's some other riders that
19:53
have have come over and hasn't done well over in the US and for
19:58
Bender to come over who struggled in Moto GP, who also
20:01
struggled in Moto 2, right? I mean, you know, he did well in
20:05
Moto 3, but that's why he got that leap to Moto GP, but
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struggled in both of those categories.
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And so you don't really know what you're getting in a rider
20:13
that psychologically, physically, he's the racer,
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right? You don't know what you get.
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So for him to come out and and and do what he did and finish
20:20
4th overall, but just to be in the top three in qualifying, to
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me that was pretty impressive. You know, for a younger Moto 2
20:30
rider, but again, what we had thoughts on qualifying.
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Do you guys agree with that? Do you think that, you know,
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some other riders was Alexandro some of these other guys, you
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know, surprised you? I will say this, a lot of the
20:45
fast people were really young this weekend.
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He's not with PJ. I mean, I'll catch a little bit
20:54
of the qualifying, but you know, Tyler Scott, obviously I've seen
20:57
him brace locally, so it was good to see him on the pole and
21:04
not, not to say not Josh Herring, but you know, I wanted
21:07
to see somebody else out there. So I really thought Tyler Scott
21:11
had a chance and I want to see Demario do well.
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So I mean, I thought the qualifier is pretty tight for
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the first top three. So, you know, it kind of went
21:25
either way, but it was good to see and kind of finished the
21:28
sign the same way. Josh Herring, Talis Scott and I
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think it was right. What was second?
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Was it PJ? PJ in.
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What qualifying? Yeah.
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I think it was PJ. PJ I.
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Think it was PJ. So Tara, PJ and and Herod.
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I mean, go ahead, Reese. I mean, I definitely agree with
22:04
TJ there. I mean, it was nice to see all
22:06
the young guys up front. I mean, it was nice to see their
22:08
hunger that they're still there's still a passion to win
22:13
the the infamous and famous Daytona for all the young guys
22:17
and to try to beat the, you know, the veterans as you want
22:22
to call it, to be up there. And, you know, the one that did
22:25
stand out to me is Lewis's guy Demario, you know, to be still
22:30
fresh to be, you know, never really been on like he's been on
22:35
the track, but he's not in the Super sport category that have
22:38
that many laps. You know, he did impress me a
22:41
lot. I knew Ty Scott would be there
22:43
to party Heron. You knew you know, the the
22:46
normal front runners would be there, but to see like the young
22:49
guys, you know, wanting to step up and be there and and take
22:53
take reign was actually something.
22:55
You know they even see. You know Blake up there as he
22:58
was struggling so much in qualifying and still take home a
23:02
top ten and with Dominic Doyle, you know all the guys that
23:05
haven't been there. So I I definitely say and that
23:09
there was something there. So it was.
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I was very impressed. Yeah, it it, it's pretty.
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I don't know what the word is, but I was surprised that you
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know, people like Hick Hickman that you know, these guys, world
23:23
class winning racers and struggle continues to struggle
23:29
for him at the Daytona 200 and and some of these other riders
23:34
as well. Where you got Alexandra come in
23:38
as as a a rookie on the on the Super sport bike and and is is
23:43
doing pretty well. So it's pretty crazy to see.
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Louis, what are your thoughts, man?
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I mean, I'm going to I'm going to stay on Alessandro's side
23:55
throughout this entire season. I think of everybody in the top
23:58
ten and, and and of course Darren Bender is a little bit of
24:02
a more seasoned rider. He's rating a lot of things and
24:06
he's on a really good team. So I didn't think he was going
24:08
to do I I didn't think he was going to finish outside the top
24:11
ten. Finishing the top 4 was a great
24:14
result for him. But overall, if I look at the
24:16
top ten, the the person that impressed me the most is
24:18
Alessandro. Here's a guy, here's a kid
24:21
that's a three time Motor America champion on in the Twins
24:25
Cup twice and on the Kramer Cup last year.
24:28
He's won 3 championships. The kid steps up to Super Sport,
24:32
his very first event out-of-the-box.
24:34
He finishes at 5th place behind just, you know, veterans Josh
24:39
Herring, her veteran Tyler Scott, veteran Daryl Bender, you
24:43
know, X Moto, 3X Moto, 2X Moto GP and Caleb.
24:46
She's been on the bike now for a couple for more for two years.
24:50
Two years. So you know, for him to come up
24:53
in his, this is his first race in the first time racing in
24:56
Daytona in the class. I mean, he did well last year in
25:00
the Twins Cup, but to finish in 5th place on the same lap, so
25:04
he's not one lap down. He finished on the same lap as
25:07
Josh Herron. Like that alone is a huge
25:11
accomplishment. And I think once now you take
25:14
the the the unknown, which is the Daytona pit stops out of it.
25:19
And you just put this kid this straight up race on track where
25:22
he just has to do this many laps on a set of tires and a set of
25:25
gas. I think really going to show a
25:27
lot of people the quality of rider he is, because a lot of
25:30
people don't realize exactly how good this kid is, man.
25:34
This kid is the truth. And, and, and he if he stays on
25:39
2 and he stays calm and he keeps his head in the game, you're
25:42
going to see this kid battling at the front for the entire
25:44
year. And that, that's pretty dope to,
25:48
to here and, and I'm looking forward to seeing this season
25:54
progress. Let's talk, let's talk about
25:57
Josh and what he did. Let's talk about PJ, the
26:00
struggles there and, and, and, and Richie, you know, the
26:06
Daytona 200 is a different animal, right?
26:08
Because you have to survive the the 57.
26:12
My I'm, I'm, I think I'm right in the same 57 laps.
26:15
I know it's in the 50s. You gotta survive as you guys
26:18
mentioned the pit stops and stuff like that this year, they
26:22
it was a mandatory three pitch stop.
26:24
And and so it's not just riding the bike.
26:26
It's not just the skills, it's how your team work is one
26:30
overall. Was it playing this day?
26:34
Because but because it's you know, Josh, did Josh have
26:36
something to prove? I mean, he he really was just
26:39
kind of like, let me show you the difference between me and
26:42
everybody else. That's not what DJ.
26:47
Yeah, I mean, he, he has the dark horse.
26:49
I mean, like everybody knows everybody's business, I'm sure.
26:53
And for for him to just come out and still prove like to get all
26:59
that news talk, I can still ride and race and and get my, you
27:03
know, first place. And I'm sure there's a lot on
27:07
his shoulders. He had a lot to prove.
27:09
But yeah, it's just a a big milestone to win it four years
27:13
in a row and to have a total of five.
27:16
Like he's basically up there with the the top.
27:19
So yeah, there was a big, big race for Josh Harry and and he
27:26
got the blueprint basically. I mean, he's done it so many
27:29
times and he knows exactly what to do.
27:32
He just got to have the right team behind him and just got to,
27:37
you know, make sure he stays ahead of everybody.
27:39
I think the biggest thing was him getting out front.
27:42
So as long as he was on the front row, I'm sure he was
27:44
satisfied. But each time, like after the
27:47
first red flag, he's still able to get out front and that's what
27:52
you want to basically try to wear people out, I guess.
27:56
But you know, he paced himself throughout the 57 lasso or
28:01
everything so. Right, right.
28:04
Reese man, what are your thoughts?
28:05
I mean, he he did seem to play it cool when he had to.
28:09
And he looks like, you know, it's the kind of right, right
28:13
racer you'd want on on a bike in a situation like that.
28:16
He's tied with the most wins, you know, at consecutive wins
28:20
and it's, it's pretty impressive.
28:22
I didn't think he was going to be able to do it at the
28:24
beginning of the of, of, of the weekend.
28:27
What are your thoughts man? I mean, for what he's done over
28:31
the weekend, I mean, I think he did very well.
28:35
I mean, he's got that track down back.
28:38
I mean, he's definitely, he's got it down.
28:39
He definitely knows that track inside it out.
28:42
You know, so it's like he almost had like a an axe to grind
28:48
versus anybody else like he had. He was out to prove which you
28:53
know, as anybody that's very competitive as himself.
28:55
You know, he knows Josh very well.
28:57
He is very competitive. So when you have that axe to
29:00
grind, you're you're out to prove somebody wrong.
29:04
And you know that he's still able to do what he's able to do
29:07
at at at now at his age and as a well seasoned veteran like, you
29:13
know, Josh's not a young pup no more.
29:16
He's older. So you know, he he has things to
29:18
prove and want to show, especially to you know, the
29:21
team, the the new team and his old team that let him go all.
29:25
Right, right. Lewis, man, what are your
29:28
thoughts? You know, we've seen other
29:32
riders, I find new life after not being able to hold on to
29:39
their seat and stuff like that. So this is a good way for a guy
29:43
to say, hey, look man, I still can ride.
29:45
I'm still fast, you know. I mean, it's a good platform to
29:52
him to keep himself relevant to see if a super bike seat opens
29:56
up next year or even if a super bike seat becomes available this
29:59
year. If somebody gets hurt and
30:01
there's an opportunity for him to slide in, I think that's a
30:05
good way for him to go about it to keep himself relevant, to
30:07
keep himself in the, in the, in the racing atmosphere in the
30:12
pit. So, you know, I think it's good
30:14
for him. I at the same time, you know, I
30:16
was, I was kind of a little bit happy at the end of last year
30:20
when I'm not going to call them sandbaggers because it's not
30:24
like they had a chance. But you know, PJ and Schultz, I
30:28
mean, these are super bike guys and they're racing against 17
30:32
year olds. And it's good because the 17
30:35
year olds see exactly what the level is in super bike.
30:37
So they have to keep up to it. But at a certain point in like
30:40
you do want to have super, you know, super sport, younger
30:44
people in super sport competing with each other and bringing up
30:47
that next era, that next generation of what will be our
30:52
super bike people, What will be the people that we cheer for?
30:56
And if we keep getting this round Robin where super bike
30:59
guys get dropped to Super Sport and now they clean up in Super
31:03
sport because they should, because they're veterans,
31:06
they've won. I mean, Josh Herman finished
31:08
what, second in the championship last year in Super bike.
31:12
If he finishes 8th this year in Super sport, that's not a good
31:15
look for him. It's you know, it's expected for
31:18
him to finish first or second this year in super sport because
31:21
he should because that's where he's at.
31:23
That's where his level is. So, you know, I, if he finishes
31:27
first, like, yeah, it's a championship, but I'm, I'm going
31:31
to be looking at who finishes second to because to me, that's
31:34
the future. Right, right.
31:37
No, I I agree. And I've, I've said this before,
31:40
it will other riders coming from top class and coming down and
31:44
and and taking it not necessary advantage, but it is an
31:46
advantage because you have a you, you have more experience
31:49
than somebody who's never gone. It's not like everyone in the
31:51
Super super sport class has gone to super bike for a few seasons
31:54
and came back down. It's a different experience and
31:58
and, and different reaction time.
32:01
You know, Kayla was not the only female to race in the Daytona
32:04
200, the youngest female ever, Ella Drea race.
32:08
She finished 26 overall, look pretty good on the NBA.
32:13
She finished 16th overall. 16th overall, Yeah, no.
32:16
My bad. I'm I'm I'm looking at the
32:18
championship sheet here and she's oh, you know why?
32:21
Because there might be some other races, but it said 26 by
32:24
her name. But anyway, we'll, we'll go what
32:26
you what you said 16th overall even better.
32:29
And, and this is off of Moto America's website, so.
32:33
And and it's on an envy Augusta, so that should count by about 10
32:36
more spots because I'm amazed that bike didn't blow up.
32:40
It looks bad. I'm a fan of envy.
32:41
Come on, don't do that. Don't do.
32:42
That I am also but I've never had a good experiences with
32:45
them. They've taken a lot of trips to
32:48
the mechanic and taken months to fix every time.
32:51
So I'm just her and her brother both finished in the top, you
32:56
know, 12 and 16, both on NBA Augustus.
32:59
So both of them did it, you know, the first brother and
33:02
sister to do this race together, first brother and sister to
33:05
finish in the top 21st 2 NBA Augustus to finish a race and
33:09
then without blowing up outside of the top 20.
33:12
Yeah, a lot of firsts. A lot of firsts, but that's
33:15
pretty impressive, right? I mean, you know, we got some
33:17
big solid names on the grid and stuff like that.
33:21
And, and for her as a 16 year old to come out and finish 16th
33:26
and, and again, I can copy and and paste this because it's
33:29
motor Motor America that's I'm looking at, but that's pretty
33:33
impressive. What are your thoughts, TJ, on
33:36
how Ella Drea did and and the brother?
33:39
But you know what? We're talking about the the
33:42
female this March, this March, this women's month in March.
33:46
Yeah, I mean, I think she's definitely a good writer and
33:50
definitely young and upcoming and it's good to see more
33:52
females, you know, competing with the guys.
33:56
And yeah, for her to be 16 and and go to Daytona and do what
34:02
she did, I think it's a a great milestone.
34:04
And it's even better when you have a a family member.
34:07
So to have our brother participate and they like, like
34:12
Lewis said, the basically both of them top 20 is a cool
34:16
experience. And yeah, just knowing that she
34:20
was also in the race with Kayla and makes a probably more more
34:25
confident and and I'm sure she had her head straight on, but
34:30
that me, I guess it sounded really good.
34:32
They had her going by a few times watching it on live and
34:36
she was moving out there. So a couple of red flags and
34:40
it's good that, you know, she wasn't involved with that
34:42
either. So and then I think she had a
34:45
good ride. Yeah, no, I, I, I completely
34:48
agree. Not Reese, man.
34:49
What are your thoughts? I mean, you know, it's, you
34:53
know, I, I, this is one of the sports where it doesn't matter
34:57
that I think the sex you are, you can, you can definitely
35:02
finish on top. And, and it may have been, you
35:05
know, different a few years ago, but we've seen these young
35:08
ladies now that that are beating some, you know, some veterans.
35:14
So I don't necessarily know if he, I don't want to say he don't
35:17
need the WCRI think we may just need a, you know, the next 5-10
35:22
years. It it it maybe like 20 Ellijaya
35:24
and Kayla or maybe more? You never know.
35:29
I mean, it's it's nice to see the women in our sport and take
35:33
some advantage of you know what they got and and try to be
35:36
aggressive. You never know.
35:38
I mean, we might get some more coming in here.
35:40
I mean, they're not like you said, the WCR, but you know, we
35:46
do have like Mallory over there, Mallory Dobbs, she's over there.
35:50
So you never know, you may have more women, you know, wanting to
35:53
go over there and go over to the sport.
35:55
You still, you still have Makayla that's over here.
35:58
That was very dominant. That's, you know, sitting, you
36:03
know, sitting out right now. But there I think that, you
36:07
know, from what I see, the potential is high, you know what
36:11
I mean? So I definitely say, you know,
36:15
Sky's the limit for a lot of these new girls coming in and I
36:17
think I think coming here in the next couple years, you may see
36:20
more wanting to come play with the boys.
36:24
OK, no doubt before we move on to World Super Bike and and Moto
36:28
GP, one last thing guys, PJ look good and you know, it could have
36:35
been a different story for PJ. You know, what are your thoughts
36:39
on that? I mean, you know, he's in the
36:41
Super bike series this year. So for him it's it's not a knock
36:45
against him. It's almost I don't want to say
36:46
a free ride, but it doesn't count towards a super bike
36:50
point. So him not finishing other than
36:54
pride and knowing that you had the potential to finish in front
37:00
it, it got to suck, right guys? What are your thoughts, CJ?
37:04
Yeah, I mean, it's got to suck. I'm sure, like fatigue had to
37:08
set in at this point. And he's always up the front
37:14
runner, so he's not used to Lapras that often.
37:18
But to get caught up behind the Lapras and find a way around
37:21
them and then just tuck the front in front of him.
37:23
And it's kind of, you know, disappointing to see that he did
37:27
that and being in first place, you know, so like, I think it
37:32
was just a fatigue thing and just just trying to finish it
37:36
out. So I thought he had it and he
37:38
had a great ride the whole race. So, you know, I'm sure obviously
37:43
it doesn't count, but I'm sure he's going to be very strong
37:46
when the season starts all. Right, right.
37:50
Reece, what are your thoughts, man?
37:51
He kicking rocks today. What are your thoughts?
37:57
Nah, I mean he, you know, he's ready for the next, you know,
38:02
for the next level coming up here, coming here in April.
38:06
I mean, he he looked very, very good man.
38:09
He looked strong as that man. So I mean, I think right now you
38:12
look at the bigger picture and, and, and, and move forward from
38:16
there. I don't think he's kicking
38:18
rocks. I mean, I think he's a little
38:20
upset with himself. But I mean, you got to move on
38:23
and get ready for the next the next big dance, which is coming.
38:27
Right is is that just bad luck or lack of experience?
38:31
Should they should I, I don't I don't remember this.
38:35
If they did you know should have been Blue Flag to the back
38:39
markers. What are your thoughts man?
38:42
I mean, it could have been some blue flags.
38:44
I mean, it could have been a, it could have been a bunch of
38:46
stuff. I mean, I've seen it, but you
38:50
got to look at it. You know, PJ was ahead of him
38:53
when he crashed and, you know, maybe he just had, you know, a
38:57
mental breakdown and, and tuck the, you know, grab too much,
39:02
too much lean angle, too much anything.
39:03
I, I got to go back and look at it again.
39:06
But I mean, that could just be a mental breakdown right there.
39:09
You know that as far as you know when fatigue sets in, you know
39:13
you do start having mental breakdown when that fatigue
39:15
hits. OK.
39:19
All right. Lewis May what are your thoughts
39:22
on the on the situation with PJ and is it, you know, it's just
39:28
racing and this is no different than I mean, for a guy had that
39:33
that, you know, hasn't won it and and it back-to-back to
39:36
back-to-back. I mean, it's still got to hurt.
39:40
I mean, I'm sure it hurts, but you know what?
39:42
The race isn't over until you complete all the laps.
39:45
And if you take a different line, 'cause you're trying to
39:47
pass a back marker, even if they have the blue flags waving, you
39:51
know the back marker tries not to impede you, but the black
39:53
marker doesn't. The back marker doesn't have to
39:55
stop. Put his kickstand down, make
39:57
sure you go by, put gas in your bike, make sure your tires are
40:00
OK, and then they can proceed. You're a faster rider.
40:03
There's a reason you're lapping him.
40:04
You should lap him, pass him and keep going and do it correctly.
40:10
And you know he has nobody to blame but himself.
40:12
He decided this is the corner where I'm going to pass him.
40:15
He had plenty of room to work with, so it's not like he had,
40:18
you know, an impending threat directly behind him.
40:21
He just chose to go in. He went a little too hot, took a
40:24
different line than everybody else, takes through that corner,
40:27
probably used a little bit too much edge grip on a tire that
40:29
already had a lot of laps on it. And he ended up, you know,
40:33
sliding the bike out like this is you're going to be racing a
40:36
super bike. Nobody's going to let you buy.
40:38
You need to be able to get by and keep your concentration and
40:41
make the next couple of corners and and do this.
40:44
This is Racecraft. And it's not like he's new to
40:46
racing. He's been doing this a long
40:47
time, man. So for him to throw it away on
40:50
the last lap, he has nobody to blame but himself.
40:53
With that said, it doesn't count towards the point in Super Bike
40:57
as far as I know. He didn't get hurt, so he should
40:59
be ready to go come Rd. Atlanta and just kind of like,
41:03
you know, put this in your very mirror.
41:05
Keep going. You know, it's a one and done.
41:07
It doesn't counter my point. It'd be cool to have a watch.
41:10
It'd be cool to be on that list of names.
41:12
It would have been cool to keep Josh Herron from winning his
41:14
whatever in a row. All of that would have been
41:17
cool, but would have, should have, could have didn't move on
41:20
to the Super Bike season and see what you can do.
41:23
But if he thinks that last year he had a rough time with Schultz
41:26
in Super Sport, oh man, you're going to have a long, long
41:32
season in Super bike because ain't nobody going to let you
41:36
slide by. You better be ready for some
41:38
elbows in your ribs and getting punted off the track on a
41:42
regular if you think anybody's going to give you even an inch.
41:46
It sounds like those are the things that Reach want to say,
41:49
but since they're going to be competing next year.
41:53
I I got, I got no, I got no skin in the game.
41:56
I can say what I want. Man, you can say what you want.
41:58
I, I, I can't man, just sort of think that I can and can't say.
42:03
I I, I I I realize the difference in the tone.
42:07
I got my Mace. I got my Mace when I talk.
42:13
This is kind of like, oh man, let's give this guy some
42:15
training wheels. Yippie skippy doopie.
42:21
Nah, Nah, This is, this is racing as Robin is racing, as
42:24
they say. That's what they say.
42:26
Because some some people in the comments are are saying that's
42:30
just straight from ATV show and not necessarily their life but.
42:34
Nah, Robin is racing, man. It's in.
42:36
Real life too, man, It's real. Life, trust me, you're going to
42:40
turn one off of off the grid. You are bumping people.
42:44
No, no doubt there. All right guys, I don't know
42:48
which order to go with, but we'll go with let's go World
42:51
super Bike because I think they just had tests in yesterday.
42:53
Am I looking at that calendar right?
42:56
They had tests in today yesterday, is that right and
43:00
Porto Mayo all right, all right. It seems like both lows are
43:05
back, but it sounds like both lows crashed.
43:08
Normal. And and it what did.
43:11
You do I say mid season form. They're they're in season form.
43:19
You know, Alex Lowe's looked like he was the fastest.
43:22
I mean, you know, we, we talk about testing and, and and so
43:25
forth. This is, I mean, the rate one
43:26
race has already happened. So I got assume at this point
43:29
testing matters. It's not you're not just kicking
43:31
the wheels, making sure the ergos are right and all those
43:34
fun stuff. Now it's just kind of like how
43:36
do we shave tents off, right? So this is more serious, it's
43:39
fair to say. And and you know, we got two
43:41
brothers that look pretty good. Bulgoga is is looking pretty
43:44
good crashed out, you know, the Dixons of the world and the
43:49
Samcat and some of these other guys and Petrucci.
43:52
These guys are going to have to figure some things out.
43:53
What are your thoughts, Tji? Don't know if you caught any of
43:55
that. Not as much, but I mean, you
44:01
know, the the young guys definitely going to have to step
44:03
it up like the shantras because, you know, they they missed the
44:07
first race. So I think it was mixed
44:12
conditions out there as well. So and but yeah, it was good to
44:17
see the lowest brothers, you know, still be relevant.
44:22
I guess people say mid season form because it seems to do well
44:25
and then somehow end up in the grass and yeah, just hopefully
44:31
everyone figures out a little bit because they had a lot of
44:34
time off as well. Yeah, just like.
44:37
They don't, they don't race again until a couple of weeks.
44:40
So I mean, you know. So it's also good to like stay
44:45
in that that season form and to have all your data and what you
44:49
need for the bikes. So I think the testing was going
44:52
to be important, but as far as like timing, I don't think that
44:57
was really important for this test.
45:00
OK. What are your thoughts Reese on
45:02
that? I mean, you know, you guys do a
45:03
lot of testing here as well, may have less restrictions than than
45:08
World Super Bike after the first round having the test.
45:12
Is it? Is it, you know, the engineer
45:15
saying yeah, we were right or the rider saying yeah, we were
45:18
right? What are you guys trying to
45:20
figure out? I mean, you go back to the
45:23
drawing board from day one, I mean, from, you know, race one,
45:26
and we take the data that you have from race 1 and you kind of
45:29
see where you need to, you know, readjust yourself or readjust
45:33
the bike or, you know, figure some stuff out.
45:35
I mean, normally it's going to be kind of a mixture of both.
45:39
It's going to be the rider trying to either change up some
45:43
riding styles or trying to change up certain things.
45:46
And then there's also going to be the engineers and your crew
45:49
chief trying to come up with something to actually give you a
45:53
better feel in the front end or a better feel in the rear or
45:56
just overall better feel overall on the bike.
46:00
You know, it depends on what which way you need to go.
46:03
If you need to go more in the front, you need to go, you know,
46:05
more in the rear. So it's just it's going to be
46:09
our overall combination. And that's where it comes down
46:11
to learning how to master your craft and talk, to be able to
46:18
talk to your your crew chief, because you can't talk to him
46:21
right or can't explain certain things when you won't.
46:24
It's just we're just chasing your tail.
46:27
Right, right now, if you know from from an engineering
46:32
standpoint if one rider is faster in certain corners or
46:35
sectors or overall, do you try to tell the the other riders to
46:40
do what he's doing? You know, I'm simplifying it
46:43
obviously. Or is it more still like you got
46:46
everybody's in their own corners and they're kind of working out
46:49
the bits and then coming together after?
46:52
Well, everybody's kind of stealing.
46:53
They're not. We're kind of trying to work
46:55
together because here's the thing, I mean, one rider could
46:58
be a little raked out in the front where the other rider can
47:02
be pulled back a little bit. So the front end could be pulled
47:06
back a little bit, could be +2 in the front on one rider and
47:08
minus, you know -1 or plus one on the other, right in the front
47:12
being raked out. So you may try to figure out
47:15
certain things and try to be like, OK, well, he's faster in
47:17
this corner. Why?
47:19
So his bike is set up just a tad bit different than yours.
47:22
Let's try doing this versus this.
47:29
Let's try to set your bike up maybe a little bit like this one
47:33
and see if that will help out a little bit.
47:35
Maybe we'll, you know, rake it out a little bit in the front or
47:37
we'll stretch it out more in the rear, depending on what the
47:39
situation is. You know, maybe you're not
47:41
getting enough edge grip, maybe you're not getting enough grip
47:43
in the rear, maybe not getting enough grip coming out of the
47:45
corner, or maybe you're pushing the front end too much.
47:48
So it's going to be a whole bunch of different scenarios on
47:50
what that's going to play out in OK.
47:54
OK, I did say Dixon was going to be out there, but I think if
47:58
Ray's covering for Dixon right now, Lewis man, what are your
48:03
thoughts on on on the testing? Is is Luca doing the best he can
48:08
do? Should he be trying to be a
48:11
little bit closer to the Bulgar to keep a job, make a
48:15
difference? What what can Oliveira do to to
48:21
other than, you know, just keep riding the BMW street bike?
48:26
I mean, looking at the top 9, just the fact that the top nine
48:30
are within a second, it it, it's, it's nice to see that
48:33
there's a lot of competitive bikes within that second.
48:36
Obviously there's a several BMWs, several Ducatis and two
48:40
BIA Motas and the one Honda. So to see them all within that
48:43
one second is good to see. It still shows that there's
48:48
certain people that need to step up a little bit more because
48:51
3/10 of a second seems like 3/10 of a second.
48:53
But three cents of a second over a 26 lap race, you got
48:56
stretched. So you know, who can, it's not
49:00
just who can do the fastest 1 lap or who, who's can do the
49:02
most consistent laps across the distance of a race within like
49:07
a, you know, a 3/10 of a second to 1/2 a second split lap after
49:11
lap after lap. Because nobody can really move
49:14
the needle beyond that. You know, you're, you're within
49:16
that 3/10 of a second every single lap.
49:19
You might pull a super fast lap out of your ass because you're
49:22
behind somebody and you get a draft and you get a half a
49:24
second of a slingshot or something like that.
49:27
But most riders race within that two to 3/10 of a second to half
49:32
a second lap after lap after lap consistency.
49:36
So most of these guys in the top nine would actually be very
49:39
close to competitive in a full race.
49:42
Miguel Oliveira is right where I think he should be because I
49:45
believe, like I've told you several times, he is the best
49:48
rider on a BMWI. Think BMW putting Domino
49:52
Petrucci on that bike was a waste of a seat.
49:55
I'll say that until I'm blue in the face or until he wins the
49:57
championship, I'm probably going to be right on that one.
50:01
Before he wins the championship, Ikalagoona, he needs to kind of
50:06
keep stepping forward. I mean, he was only 2/10 or so
50:09
slower than Nicola Bulaga, but you know, it's a test.
50:13
I don't think Nicola Bulaga was trying to set the fastest lap of
50:16
the weekend or a personal best. I think he was out there testing
50:19
different things because again, the V4 is technically a new bike
50:23
this year because of the swing arm and some of the new pieces.
50:27
So he's probably trying to squeeze every 10th he can out of
50:29
the bike and crashing is not high on his list.
50:32
It's consistency, trying to fix the bike, trying to see what
50:35
they can do to get it that extra step, that extra step, that
50:38
extra step. Overall, I think this is this
50:41
shows good possibilities for this year to be competitive for
50:45
everybody except Yamaha. Cause Yamaha's outside the top
50:49
ten and I don't see them breaking the top ten 'cause
50:52
they're, you know, they're in the 140 twos and the guys at the
50:56
pointy end of the Spears are 14141 and I don't see them
51:00
finding a second between now and the next race.
51:04
You know, I I didn't touch Yamaha and Motor America because
51:09
they struggled there as well, so I didn't want to bring them up
51:12
in World Super Bike either, but. Well, they're going to struggle
51:16
all year this year, Motor America, especially on that R9
51:19
because they took away their concessions and without the
51:22
concessions they had last year, they're at a serious deficit in
51:27
traction and that's leading to a serious deficit in speed,
51:31
straight line speed, corner exit, everything else.
51:34
So with Motor America taking away the swing arm that they
51:37
were using last year, forcing them to use the swing arm that
51:41
comes on the R9, which is not as long as the swing arm they were
51:44
using last year. So they can't get that extra
51:46
grip, mechanical grip. And with Ducati V twos, you
51:51
know, a, a fleet of Ducati V twos in front of them, they're
51:55
going to have a long, long season, man of looking at the
51:58
Baika Ducatis. Yeah, You know, let's jump to
52:02
Moto GP. Speaking of long seasons, let's
52:05
start with, you know, Marquez deciding to not make a decision
52:10
to sign a contract with Ducati yet.
52:13
What's going on there, guys? Is this is this something on
52:17
Marquez? Is this is this is him to get
52:20
more money? What are your thoughts, TJ?
52:23
What is that? Yeah, I mean, I think he's just.
52:30
You're opening your briefcase. I mean, it took a little while
52:33
there. What's going?
52:34
On I think, I think my mic was muted, but yeah, I think, you
52:39
know, he's just weighing his options.
52:40
He's not just going to jump into the the first deal he sees he's
52:44
smart enough and he's coming from Honda, who he's had a lot
52:47
of money and he's already proved that he's a winner.
52:50
He jumped to a satellite and to now a factory and won a
52:54
championship after what he's been through.
52:56
So going into a new season, it's going to be kind of strange for
53:01
everybody. But he's not just going to jump
53:03
into let me. Ask you this man.
53:06
This man has been signing many contracts for a long time now.
53:11
Here's a, here's a, here's a team that's brought you from the
53:14
brink of whatever you were going through and, and put you back on
53:19
the precipice. And, you know, they offer you
53:22
something. I can't imagine Ducatis coming
53:25
here with, with only, you know, 6 shrimps, 2 lobster tail and a
53:29
couple of crab legs. They got to be sent sending the
53:31
whole buffet, man. Like, I mean, this is bad.
53:35
This is bad for this guy to be like, Nah, I ain't going to sign
53:37
right now. I mean, he's probably thinking
53:40
like, alright, if I sign, what's the project looking like from
53:43
2027 to 20, 29? Like what are we just what are
53:47
we going to do? What's the plan?
53:49
So you know, he's, he's deep diving right now and it's part
53:54
of the Russian mentality as well.
53:55
It's like I he can really take his talent somewhere else and
53:59
still be good. He's just that guy right now.
54:02
So, you know, I mean, it's just he's just waiting.
54:08
He's just waiting a little bit for more money today.
54:10
Reese man, you hearing this talk?
54:12
Man, if, if, if you'd be caught. Are you worried?
54:15
I mean, come on man, You, you gave this guy a lifeline.
54:20
I mean, you could be worried a little bit.
54:22
I mean, you could also, you know, you got to remember
54:24
Marquez is at that age now. You know, he has really nothing
54:28
to prove. He has nothing left to show or
54:30
prove. I mean, you know, he's just
54:32
coming off of another injury, another surgery.
54:35
You know, he could, you know, it could be a time point in time,
54:38
like especially with his, you know, he promises, you know, his
54:41
grandfather, hey, I'm going to do this.
54:44
But you know, now that he's at that age, you know, he's got a
54:48
serious girlfriend now. He could just be at the age
54:50
like, man, I'm going to see how I feel at the end of this year
54:53
health wise and be like, you know, maybe I can just, I can be
54:57
done and I can retire now. You know, you never know, he,
55:00
he, he could be at that point. He could just be literally at
55:03
that point, like I'm. It's nothing less for me to do.
55:07
All right, I, I can, I can understand The Walking away
55:09
thing. All right, so I because I was
55:11
going to say he has to kiss the ring, but if he's thinking about
55:14
walking away, that could be the only respectable thing to say.
55:17
Why want to wait? It can't be for I'm not getting
55:22
enough from Ducati, can it? No, I mean they, they, I mean,
55:27
they're throwing the Brinks truck at that guy, so, you know,
55:30
So no, I mean, he's getting plenty enough from him.
55:33
I mean, I know Ducati and I've, I've known every year that, you
55:38
know, they, they throw money at those guys, you know, Lambos and
55:43
all types of cars, all types of jewelry, everything.
55:46
So he, he's got plenty of financial status with them.
55:49
So now it's it's, I think it's could be a point of, is it time
55:53
for me to walk away while I still have my health?
55:57
Lewis, I know it here is it must make your ears crunch to hear
56:02
say just throw money at stuff, throw money at stuff, throw
56:05
money at stuff. Because when I assume if you had
56:08
to sign Marquez, you will have a number and you're going to sit
56:12
here and say no matter what, I'm not crossing that line.
56:16
And you know what happens when he says no, you go back and be
56:19
like, all right, how far can I cross that line?
56:23
Because here's the deal. When he left Honda, he was
56:26
making 25,000,000 a year. He went to Grazini making less
56:31
than I think 6,000,000 a year. He went to Ducati, I believe
56:37
making 12 million a year. So there's, there's a couple of
56:41
factors here. One his age, he's 33 years old.
56:44
How many more years does he physically have that he can
56:47
continue to race and take the punishment of racing?
56:50
If he thinks he can take two more years then he's going to
56:53
want to a Max contract for two years because that gives him the
56:57
opportunity to to meet the championship record of the most
57:02
titles, gives him the opportunity with the best bike.
57:05
So money is a factor, his health is a factor, and if he wants to
57:10
retire a Ducati rider then it needs to be a contract that
57:13
meets the requirement for the amount of years he thinks he's
57:16
going to do this. If Marquez was going to retire,
57:18
I seriously doubt he's going to announce his retirement in July.
57:22
Like he'll announce it at the beginning of the season just
57:25
like Rossi did. So they can have a full year of
57:27
just kissing his ass everywhere he goes.
57:29
And whether you hate him or love him, Moto GP will do a whole big
57:34
farewell thing for him the entire season.
57:37
And then it'll end in her rez with a championship lap of his
57:39
own where everybody shakes his hand.
57:41
And that's, that's the way to go out, man.
57:44
You don't say in August, I'm retiring in September.
57:47
You make sure you squeeze every dime every because guess what?
57:49
That last year you're going to sell this shit out of your
57:52
merch. You're going to have special
57:53
shirts. Last shirt at Koda, last shirt
57:56
here. This is Money, man.
57:59
Don't leave money on the table. And in the great words of the
58:03
immortal Luttrell's Freewell, how is he supposed to feed his
58:06
family with only $17 million? That's right.
58:15
It's tough. And it's, it's just weird to see
58:18
because we've, we don't know, right?
58:20
And I and I and I, and that's not a phrase I like to use in
58:24
life in general, much less on camera, because we don't know.
58:28
I don't necessarily need to know what the man is doing, but I,
58:32
it's it. I have a nagging suspicion that
58:36
Ducati could get caught with their their pants down.
58:42
I, I don't think he's there's anywhere else for him to go.
58:45
I don't think Aprilia is going to back up the as big a Brinks
58:48
truck. I don't think they have a as big
58:49
a Brinks truck as Audi. You know, they, they don't, they
58:53
don't have as big a Brinks truck as Audi.
58:55
Nobody's floating them that way. KTM, you know, is does it.
58:59
They don't have a Brinks truck. Their Brinks truck is managed by
59:01
somebody else now. So they got to ask three other
59:04
people before they can take, you know, a loan out to get a loan.
59:08
Honda is probably not going to offer him what he wants, and
59:11
he's probably not going to want to go back to Honda unless it's
59:15
crazy money because at this point he's, you know, is he
59:17
really racing for money? He's racing for stats at this
59:20
point. Money is nice.
59:22
He's just padding his stats. He's doing what LeBron James
59:25
does, except he's actually good at it.
59:28
And he doesn't need to stay around 40 years playing to pad
59:30
his stats to try to make himself look great.
59:33
He's going to do it. He's going to do it in, you
59:34
know, 12 years. I mean, I'm a I'm a Jordan fan,
59:37
but stop it, I'm at. 47 years old, he's like, yo, I'm the
59:41
number one scoring guy. You should be.
59:43
You've been playing for 40 years.
59:45
Listen man, some people don't just doesn't like, don't like to
59:48
be home every day. I mean, I've seen his kids, I
59:51
wouldn't want to be home either. They look like pains in the
59:53
asses. But then he's bringing his kid
59:57
to work. So what?
1:00:00
The hell, man. Listen, man, you guys show you
1:00:01
show show away to the to the top.
1:00:06
We got we got racing in a couple of weeks.
1:00:09
I hope you're right. I will say this about Audi, the
1:00:12
apparent companies Volkswagen. Volkswagen got a class action
1:00:16
suit. They had a.
1:00:18
Clash action, shoot, they settled it fair.
1:00:20
Enough. Fair.
1:00:21
Enough. They had a clash action shoot a
1:00:22
couple years ago because they set up their cars to pass
1:00:24
inspection by running differently when they were
1:00:27
getting inspected. So it made it look like they had
1:00:29
less emissions and when somebody found the software that was
1:00:32
buried in their ECU, they got a multi billion dollar fine for
1:00:36
polluting and they settled it. Yeah, I was still selling cars.
1:00:39
That was 10 years ago now, but yeah, still selling.
1:00:42
Cars. But suddenly they didn't find
1:00:44
another way to to bury that software somewhere else.
1:00:48
KTM needs to buy us. Hire some Volkswagen people.
1:00:52
That they do, man. Bad business, they make money.
1:00:59
It's too soon to to call out points and scores and all that
1:01:04
fun stuff because we got another week before any racing is
1:01:08
happening. Brazil's not until the 20th of
1:01:11
March and for Moto GP and World Super Bike is not until the week
1:01:15
after that. We just had Moto America, which
1:01:18
is very exciting. We do have a lot of club racing
1:01:21
that is starting to start up for folks.
1:01:23
So, you know, renew your license and I was thinking about this
1:01:27
earlier as I'm, I'm starting to pack up because I'm going to go
1:01:30
race in a couple of weeks myself.
1:01:32
You transponder figure out your transponder battery renewal.
1:01:38
You don't want to show up the morning of and you go to tech
1:01:43
and you can't schedule a transponder.
1:01:47
That's one thing I need to renew is my transponder.
1:01:50
So yeah, that that's on that's on the list.
1:01:53
I got to do that. But I should be good.
1:01:56
Yeah, that that's that's what. Don't want to be out there
1:01:59
without that transponder. Do that I, I, I.
1:02:02
Don't want the rent one either. I'm going in a couple of weeks.
1:02:05
I'm already loading the trailer, Bikes are already in the
1:02:07
trailer. I might I might even do a dry
1:02:09
run to the track and back just to make sure that's a bit much,
1:02:14
but. That's that's.
1:02:18
Extra man in some cases, but you don't want to be stuck on the
1:02:21
side of the road. You don't want to show up and
1:02:24
not have the thing like tire warmers.
1:02:25
I'm sitting here like I probably got to turn my tire warmers on
1:02:28
to make sure they work. There's a.
1:02:31
There's a AHRMA I think this weekend here down the road from
1:02:36
me. I might actually show up.
1:02:39
Yes. At at CMP.
1:02:42
Yep, there is. Maybe I'll show up.
1:02:46
There you go, you scratch the VIN numbers off.
1:02:49
You can maybe get into the the historic class or the vintage
1:02:52
class with that R6. How would that be to be vintage?
1:02:57
Well, it's weird. I think it's like, oh, I don't
1:03:00
know if it's years or I know O6 or O7 because one of our buddies
1:03:05
Jim, he his bike is AI think it's AO 6 and and he races the
1:03:09
vintage class. So I I don't know, you would
1:03:13
think by now the 2012 R 6 would be vintage as well, but.
1:03:19
I don't know, I mean if not I could try to grab the Gixxer and
1:03:24
get dusted cobwebs off of it. I'd have to get a license first.
1:03:27
Man, I haven't had a license in years.
1:03:30
Oh man, just just tell them who you are.
1:03:32
You'll get a license if. I tell them who I am not getting
1:03:35
a license. I might not get entry.
1:03:38
You might not. You might go to.
1:03:41
The. Sky you might not anything
1:03:45
anything before we get out of here guys that I missed that
1:03:48
that that we should talk about. Stay safe out there.
1:03:52
The Las Vegas Police Department put out a report that most
1:03:56
people in Vegas are crashing because they're not using the
1:03:59
front brake, which is great to hear.
1:04:01
Front brake is super important. If you don't know that, learn
1:04:06
it. And if you don't want to learn
1:04:07
it, look for another hobby, because without the front brake
1:04:10
you're going to have a long, long time.
1:04:12
Yeah, there's a lot of people don't know that they should be
1:04:16
using a front brake on a motorcycle.
1:04:19
They jump on that back brake quick, and you think they'll
1:04:21
learn it for the first time when they slide like 50 feet.
1:04:23
But what do I? Do.
1:04:26
Yeah. I've learned not to use the back
1:04:28
brake. I allowed it.
1:04:30
That thing locked up on me. Yeah.
1:04:32
Nope. Never again.
1:04:33
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm learning how to, I'm trying to
1:04:36
learn how to use the back brake now just for turning.
1:04:39
So that's kind of I I haven't done it in a race yet, but I'm
1:04:42
trying. All right, Reese, man, anything
1:04:45
I, you know, you know any Morris codes you want to send out
1:04:49
before we let you go? Nah, man, that's it.
1:04:54
Let's get ready for the season. Let's get ready for a showdown.
1:04:57
No doubt. I'm looking forward to it.
1:04:59
Hopefully we'll be in the building to check out the the
1:05:02
the second round of the Moto America first round for you, but
1:05:05
second round for Moto Mark in general.
1:05:08
Who's coming up to Atlanta? You coming up at Rexy to Atlanta
1:05:11
for Motor America? That's the plan at the moment.
1:05:14
All right, I'll be there also all.
1:05:16
Right. No doubt this time we'll take
1:05:18
photos, so we'll prove that we were there together.
1:05:26
It is what it is. I don't think we're social media
1:05:28
hogs like that. So we just like like each
1:05:30
other's company. So it's all good.
1:05:32
My name is Rec 25 be forever cool podcast.
1:05:35
I want to thank TJ with two wheels and coffee Reese from
1:05:38
attack Yamaha, the real Luis Ortega, the numbers guy.
1:05:41
Peace, peace, peace. Peace.