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Reaching Muslims with the Gospel with Stefano Fehr & 5 Love Languages Marriage Conference with Dr. Gary Chapman · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available
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  S2: and you're forfeiting your soul, there's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and Crew.
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  S2: We are already off to a great start on this
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  S2: Monday morning, coming off of a really great Founders Week.
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  S4: It was exciting. You had a had close up chance
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  S4: in the front row seat.
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  S2: Literally it was. It was such a great weekend. Friday night,
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  S2: Doctor Rick Nelson capped off the event. And so I
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  S2: hope you got to take in some of the sessions,
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  S2: whether you were here in person or you were taking
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  S2: in the live stream. Go back and watch. Totally, totally
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  S2: I want you to think about your experience traveling abroad.
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  S2: If you've had the opportunity to. Jonathan, have you left
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  S2: the country very minimally?
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  S3: Yeah, a couple times.
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  S2: Super day. You've been out of the country for some
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  S2: missions trips, correct? Correct. What are some of the things
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  S2: that are that you first noticed as different? When you
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  S2: step off the plane, you go into an airport of
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  S2: a country that you don't. Is it your home country?
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  S2: What do you think are some of the main differences
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  S2: that you notice?
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  S3: I. First one for me was currency. I. The first
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  S3: time I left the country it was Canada. So I
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  S3: mean okay. Very much like America, but, uh, it was
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  S3: currency and that their ketchup tasted different. Oh yeah. It's
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  S3: very sugary. Uh, it's a, it's a much sweeter ketchup taste.
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  S2: Okay.
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  S4: I wasn't expecting that one. I was not expecting.
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  S2: That one either. Especially because you don't even like sauces,
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  S2: do you?
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  S3: I love sauces.
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  S2: Oh, I thought you hated sauces.
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  S3: No no no.
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  S4: Are they casseroles? Maybe.
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  S3: Sauces are great. I'm a texture, a texture thing. Sauces
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  S3: are fine. Okay. Uh, if you make it like you
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  S3: turn sauce in like. Hey, guacamole. No. Guacamole.
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  S2: No, don't get me started.
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  S3: I know.
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  S4: You well. Yeah.
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  S2: I love guacamole. Super die. First thing you notice.
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  S4: A lot of times like the fashion, what people are wearing,
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  S4: how they look, that kind of thing. And then also
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  S4: the pace. Yeah, the pace of people.
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  S2: Yeah.
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  S4: You know, hustle, bustle, moving through like, oh, here it's like, whoa,
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  S4: get out of the way. Some airports, people are just strolling,
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  S4: leisurely walking. Ah. And I'm like, ah.
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  S3: I think one of the cool things about America is
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  S3: that because, you know, you look at like France as
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  S3: a country, like France is the size of one of
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  S3: our states, you know, and so like, I can travel
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  S3: from the west coast to the East coast or to
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  S3: the south or to the north, there's so many different
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  S3: kind of cultural aspects just within our country that you
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  S3: can almost get a little bit of that taste of like, oh,
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  S3: it's really not not fully okay, but a little bit
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  S3: of like, oh, it's way, way different here in the
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  S3: South than where I operate in the Midwest because the
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  S3: country is so big, people operate completely differently here. And
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  S3: so you get a little bit of that cultural change
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  S3: just by traveling to different parts of this country too.
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  S2: That's I thought you were going a different direction. One thing,
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  S2: because you mentioned that France is the size of one
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  S2: of our states, having spent a lot of time in Europe.
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  S2: One thing that I noticed is that most people that
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  S2: I would encounter in Europe spoke more languages than their own.
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  S3: That is very true because they have to do a
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  S3: lot of travel between.
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  S4: Them.
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  S2: Because they're moving. I mean, if you travel at all,
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  S2: it's like it is like traveling within the US.
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  S3: Absolutely.
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  S2: It'd be if in like Indiana or Minnesota or Michigan
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  S2: each spoke a different language, right?
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  S3: You could be in the UK or. Yeah, in Great
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  S3: Britain and say, oh, you want to go to France today?
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  S3: And then you could just go to France like that.
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  S3: That would work out just fine.
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  S2: You know, remember living in a, I will not say
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  S2: the name of the country because this, this particular experience.
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  S3: Wasn't the best.
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  S2: Was not the best.
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  S4: Oh, sorry.
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  S2: But one thing that I quickly noticed that was different
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  S2: is how things are handled when things go wrong. So
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  S2: I went to the supermarket. So quick back story. My
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  S2: husband played professional basketball in Europe for over a decade.
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  S2: So for over a decade, our rhythm of life was to.
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  S2: We would spend our summers in the U.S. and then
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  S2: come around August. He would. Whatever team he had signed
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  S2: with for that upcoming season, we would go there and
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  S2: we'd spend 6 to 8 months in that country. He
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  S2: would travel around playing for their team. Then we'd come
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  S2: home in the sun, in the summer, wash, rinse, repeat.
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  S3: That's a that's a schedule, man.
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  S4: Yeah.
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  S2: And so for the first, uh, you know, 10 to
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  S2: 15 years of our marriage, we lived in five different
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  S2: countries in nine different cities, all of which had their
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  S2: own unique customs and way of doing things. So this
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  S2: particular country has a lot of red tape, a lot
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  S2: of red tape. So I was going to the supermarket
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  S2: with my daughter, who at the time was about 18
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  S2: months between 18 months old and two. So Jonathan, you're
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  S2: in that stage, you.
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  S3: Know, I know it well.
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  S2: So I get the groceries and I load her up.
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  S2: And this, the parking lot of this grocery store was
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  S2: so narrow. Don't picture like your local Jewel-osco or Publix
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  S2: or Peet's. This was like one narrow strip, like get
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  S2: in where you can dodge people, shopping carts, strollers and
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  S2: everything else and try to get in and get out
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  S2: without hitting anybody. So I managed to get out of
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  S2: the parking lot. This narrow parking strip without hitting anyone.
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  S2: I was just as I was pulling out, I started
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  S2: feeling very proud of myself, which, you know what Scripture
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  S2: says about pride.
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  S3: Right.
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  S4: Before the fall? Exactly right before the fall.
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  S2: So I go to make a right turn onto this
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  S2: pretty busy street. And as I was making the turn,
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  S2: I didn't make it wide enough. And so I was
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  S2: so focused on not hitting anyone in the parking lot,
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  S2: I didn't see the parked car that was in the
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  S2: way between me and this busy street.
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  S4: Oh, Ellie.
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  S2: So I made a right turn and I just clipped
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  S2: the back of this car a little bit. Well, wouldn't
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  S2: you know that the parked car actually had the driver
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  S2: sitting in it?
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  S3: Ah.
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  S2: And so.
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  S3: I just leave a note with your.
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  S4: Insurance.
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  S2: I stop because in this particular place, any sort of
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  S2: even fender bender, even something as minor as that, it
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  S2: is not exchange information and move about your day. It
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  S2: is you do not move your cars at all, no
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  S2: matter where they are.
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  S3: Really.
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  S2: Cars don't move, police have to be called or else.
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  S2: So I'm sitting in there and I go, oh, this
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  S2: is not good. So this guy jumps out of the
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  S2: car and he comes up to the passenger side window.
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  S2: I'm in the driver's side, of course, and he is
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  S2: yelling so demonstratively in a language that I don't understand.
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  S2: And he's furious with me, and hands are flying and
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  S2: he's like trying to get me to roll down the
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  S2: window and I do the like. Mhm, mhm.
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  S4: Yeah, absolutely.
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  S2: Head shake back and forth. Like. Absolutely not. I am
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  S2: not rolling down the window. I do not know how
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  S2: to speak to you right now.
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  S3: Right. You're toddlers in the car. So I start.
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  S2: Frantically calling like any English or any bilingual person who
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  S2: speaks both the native language and English who could help
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  S2: me through this. So I will fast forward what ended
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  S2: up being a not one, not two, not three, but
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  S2: four hour ordeal, four hour fender bender where the damage was,
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  S2: it really would have required a trip to the auto
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  S2: repair pop out, a dent, a.
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  S3: Scrape out a little scratch.
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  S2: Like I mean, we're talking maybe $500 of damage or less.
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  S3: That's crazy.
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  S2: So minuscule. So we wait over an hour for the police.
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  S2: Police don't come. So the next option that you have
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  S2: in this country is to drive to the police station.
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  S2: So now it's me.
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  S3: The police just don't come.
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  S2: No. So now it's me. It's the angry guy. And
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  S2: it's the person that I dragged out to translate. And
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  S2: so then we kind of create a caravan and we
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  S2: drive to the police station. So then the police come
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  S2: out and they're all dramatic. And this guy pulls out,
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  S2: no joke, a flip phone, a flip phone from like 2002.
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  S2: And he starts snapping pictures, and then they start handing
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  S2: me paper after paper after paper. Sign this and sign this.
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  S2: And I'm looking at the translator like, what is happening here?
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  S2: I dinged this guy's fender in the U.S.. I would
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  S2: have been home. I would have had dinner made two
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  S2: hours ago. And so by this time, my daughter's a
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  S2: little cranky. We've made it through, like, half the groceries
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  S2: in our car because we were hungry, because it was
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  S2: well through lunch into the afternoon. So after they have
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  S2: me sign six different papers, ask for a $15 payment.
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  S2: I said I would have given you three times that
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  S2: amount if you could have made this process last about three.
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  S4: Right?
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  S2: And it was one of those things where, what can
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  S2: I do? I'm not in my home country. I don't
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  S2: speak the language. I was totally beholden to the people
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  S2: who were helping me, and there was nothing I can
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  S2: do about it. What would you have done?
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  S3: I mean, I probably just would have done what you
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  S3: would have done in that situation. Sit there and just
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  S3: and do it, I guess. But it's hard because you're
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  S3: not obviously they they now know you're not from this country.
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  S3: You don't speak this language. They can keep you there
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  S3: as long as they'd like.
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  S2: Grateful that they've asked for just $15. And who knows
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  S2: that they may have pocketed that. I couldn't I couldn't
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  S2: have told you what I signed. Sure. Like it was
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  S2: just it was such a. And then. But the good
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  S2: thing was the angry dude. By the end, we had
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  S2: kind of become friends. Like it was like, hey.
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  S4: I was going to ask what happened?
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  S3: He probably, in all honesty, he probably was angry because
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  S3: he's like, man, I'm just sitting here. And now I
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  S3: got to do four hours of waiting for the police
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  S3: to get this. I'll figure it out.
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  S2: He was friendly. We're eating groceries in the car. It
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  S2: was a great time for our fender bender in a
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  S2: foreign country that is heavily, heavily red tape. I was
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  S2: so grateful. I thought, I want to get back to
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  S2: where you can file a police report online if you
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  S2: need to. You could exchange your information and be on
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  S2: your way. But you know what? There are so many
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  S2: great things that you learn when you're living outside your
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  S2: home country. Coming up though, I want to talk about
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  S2: what is one thing that every nation of the world,
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  S2: regardless of the bureaucratic red tape, regardless of the government structure,
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  S2: every nation of the world, according to Scripture, shares this
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  S2: one thing in common. What is that one thing? We'll
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  S2: talk about it coming up.
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  S1: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S2: You know, there are so many wonderful, wonderful, unique things
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  S2: when you get to travel cross-culturally across the the world
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  S2: and you see different ways of doing things and sometimes
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  S2: in your own, you know, your own bias, maybe toward
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  S2: your own country, you can get frustrated with the bureaucratic
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  S2: red tape of a four hour traffic stop, basically that
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  S2: broken up between two locations. But you can also Learn
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  S2: about different ways of thinking. But I promised you. There
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  S2: was a little verse that caught my eye. Caught my
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  S2: attention yesterday. And it's just a couple little verses, but
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  S2: it talks about the one thing that's in common between
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  S2: all the nations of the world. I'm going to read
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  S2: to you. This is out of Luke 12, starting with
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  S2: verse 29, and you will recognize it pretty quickly. It says,
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  S2: and do not seek what you are to eat and
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  S2: what you are to drink, nor be worried for all
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  S2: the nations of the world seek after these things, and
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  S2: your father knows that you need them. Instead, seek his
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  S2: kingdom and these things will be added to you. I'm
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  S2: going to read it to you one more time, just
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  S2: in a different translation, because I like this one as well. Same.
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  S2: Luke 1229 through 31 says, and don't be concerned about
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  S2: what to eat and what to drink. Don't worry about
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  S2: such things. These things dominate the thoughts of unbelievers all
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  S2: over the world. But your father already knows your needs.
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  S2: Seek the kingdom of God above all else, and he
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  S2: will give you everything you need for all of the
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  S2: nations of the world, regardless of cultural norms, regardless of
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  S2: government structure, poor countries, rich countries, countries that are democratic
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  S2: countries that are communist countries, and everything in between. All
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  S2: the nations of the world are prone to seeking after
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  S2: the things that concern them. The provision aspect. What are
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  S2: we going to eat? What are we going to drink?
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  S2: What are we going to put on our bodies? How
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  S2: are we going to provide for ourselves? That is a
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  S2: absolutely universal concern.
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  S3: Absolutely.
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  S2: Which I thought was interesting, which means that we we
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  S2: are called to do something different as Christ's followers, no
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  S2: matter where you are in the world this morning, the
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  S2: rest of the world seeks after these things. We are
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  S2: instead to seek after the kingdom of God, knowing that
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  S2: God will provide for our needs so we do not
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  S2: have to waste our time and our energy consumed with God.
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  S2: How am I going to be provided for?
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  S3: And it's so easy to get consumed.
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  S2: Consumed because you got bills to pay and you've got
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  S2: groceries to buy. And have you seen the price of gas?
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  S2: And have you seen the price of eggs? Every country
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  S2: in the world has its own version of the concern
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  S2: for these things. What to eat, what to drink, what
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  S2: to clothe themselves with, just representative of general provision. But
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  S2: what does it look like to be different? To seek
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  S2: something different entirely. To seek after the kingdom of God.
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  S2: We'll talk about it coming up.
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  S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S2: All the nations of the world seek after these things,
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  S2: these things being, according to Luke 12 and other places
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  S2: in Scripture. What to eat, what to drink. Your father
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  S2: knows that you need them instead, says verse 31, Seek
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  S2: his kingdom, and these things will be added to you. Jonathan,
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  S2: what do you think? Seeking his kingdom? It's very, very
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  S2: natural for our primary focus or the primary emphasis of
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  S2: every single day to be provision.
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  S3: Yes.
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  S2: How am I going to make sure that my needs
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  S2: are met?
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S2: Rich or poor? Everything in between. What do you think?
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  S3: Yeah. I mean, it's hard, right? There's so many different
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  S3: situations in life that can be so difficult that can
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  S3: pull our minds to the immediate, to the things surrounding us.
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  S3: What am I going to do? How am I going
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  S3: to do it? You know, my wife and I, we
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  S3: just had our second child. With that come hospital bills
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  S3: and things that start to come in. And thankfully, insurance
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  S3: helps with a lot of that. But there's still some
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  S3: things that come in. Uh, and just surrounding my daughter's birth,
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  S3: we had cars that were breaking down and needed repairs,
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  S3: and a garage door that just the spring on it
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  S3: snapped and broke. And, you know, I'm like, why do
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  S3: I have to repair 60 things at the same time?
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  S3: I have this new child coming. And then last week,
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  S3: my child was sick and needed some extra medical care.
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  S3: And all of those things start to swirl around, okay,
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  S3: I'm obviously I'm going to take care of my little one,
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  S3: but how am I going to do this all, how
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  S3: all these things come? How are we going to do it?
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  S3: How are we going to take care of it? And
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  S3: my wife, it was really cool. She was driving my
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  S3: daughter to the doctors and as she was driving, those
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  S3: thoughts started to swirl through her head. And she said
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  S3: in a moment, as she was kind of calling out
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  S3: to God and having this conversation with him, she said
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  S3: she heard him say, just take care of her and
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  S3: I've got it. Stop worrying about what you're going to
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  S3: do with this little budget item over here. And then
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  S3: he said, just take care of her and I've got it. Yeah.
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  S3: And she did. And from that, in the following days,
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  S3: we've seen God provide on so many levels. And so
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  S3: I think seeking God first in that moment was to
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  S3: just say, hey, let's put our eyes on on the
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  S3: little ones that he's called us to take care of. Yeah.
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  S3: And in that, he's going to provide everything else. And
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  S3: he's proven himself faithful. Yeah. And we haven't had to
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  S3: worry about all the things we thought we were going
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  S3: to have to worry about. Yeah. It's been a blessing.
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  S2: And this is not a call. And you know this
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  S2: to like abandon responsibility 100%.
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  S4: No.
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  S2: I know these bills have been piling up.
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  S4: But.
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  S2: I'm seeking you first.
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  S4: God.
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  S3: Yeah. No, no.
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  S2: I'm in my prayer closet. That bills will take care
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  S2: of themselves. That's not it. We're called to be good
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  S2: stewards of what God's entrusted us with. So there's some
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  S2: practical things that that involves paying bills, taking kids to doctors,
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  S2: getting the roof fixed when it's leaking, and all these
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  S2: different things. but our primary emphasis, the driving motivator of
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  S2: our days and our hearts and our life, it can't
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  S2: be the provision.
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  S3: Exactly.
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  S2: It's the kingdom.
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  S3: What do.
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  S2: You say?
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  S4: I mean, it's as Jonathan, Jonathan kind of mentioned there,
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  S4: we worry so much about our life. Yeah. Instead of
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  S4: really trusting the one who gave us that life first.
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  S4: And we really have to make God the major influence
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  S4: whatever aspect of our life is, is it our relationships,
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  S4: our children, our work, our finances, what we think every day,
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  S4: what we're maybe even tempted with every day? Our stewards,
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  S4: like I said, our finances, our thoughts, our choices, how
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  S4: we serve and love others. That has to become priority first.
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  S2: And I love that there's this is not like a
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  S2: don't worry about it. Like, you know, somebody. Yeah. Sometimes
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  S2: someone will be like, oh, don't worry about it. And
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  S2: you're like, well, but what does that mean? Like, what's
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  S2: what's going to happen here? Like, how is this project
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  S2: going to get done at work that you're telling me
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  S2: don't worry about? He gives us in verse 30. Your
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  S2: father knows that you need these things. Instead, seek his kingdom.
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  S2: These things will be added to you. So it's kind
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  S2: of like back to what Shannon, your bride was saying. Like,
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  S2: it's like, this is God saying like, I know you
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  S2: need I know you've got bills. I know you've got
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  S2: a garage door that went wonky and a car that
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  S2: needs to be fixed, like seek first my kingdom. Yeah,
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  S2: I'm going to take care of you.
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  S3: Yeah. And it wasn't. And in that calling, like we've
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  S3: been talking about, you know, kind of skirting responsibility of
• 18:58
  S3: things God never told us, okay, don't take that car
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  S3: to the shop, okay? Don't get your garage door fixed. Like,
• 19:04
  S3: of course there's things to prioritize and all that stuff,
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  S3: but the things that needed to take care of needed
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  S3: to be taken care of. He didn't tell us to
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  S3: just don't take care of them.
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  S2: We just don't have to worry about it, he said.
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  S3: Don't worry about it, I will. You'll get it taken
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  S3: care of because I've got you. Yeah, not because you've
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  S3: got you.
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  S4: It's a trust. Exactly, exactly.
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  S2: Trust. It's an invitation to trust him, to take him
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  S2: at his word. So let that be an encouragement. If
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  S2: you have been man, you've been stressed even losing sleep Over. Over. Finances. Over.
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  S2: How you're going to figure out some situation. Remember to
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  S2: seek first his kingdom and remember his promise that he's
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  S2: going to take care of us. We're his kids. Just
• 19:42
  S2: like a good parent provides for the needs of their child.
• 19:46
  S2: How much more so a perfect Heavenly Father providing for
• 19:50
  S2: his kids. That's us.
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  S1: This is curl and Crew on Moody Radio. Oh my goodness.
• 19:58
  S5: Have we got a good man with us today? Oh
• 20:01
  S5: how much do I love this guy? You know, if
• 20:04
  S5: you look up faithful in the dictionary, Doctor Gary Chapman's
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  S5: picture should be there.
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  S2: Right there.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S2: Right there. Doctor Gary Chapman, well-known marriage counselor, speaker, pastor,
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  S2: author of the New York Times best seller, The Five
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  S2: Love Languages. You have other books, Doctor Gary Chapman, but
• 20:22
  S2: that seems to be the one that everybody just keeps
• 20:24
  S2: wanting to talk about. Right.
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  S6: Well, you're right about that. I was just speaking yesterday
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  S6: in Dallas to a group of international media people from
• 20:33
  S6: about 6 or 8 different countries. And I told them,
• 20:36
  S6: I said, well, this book's in 60 languages around the world,
• 20:39
  S6: so it's probably in your language. You know, my goodness.
• 20:43
  S5: What do you what do you chalk this all up to?
• 20:46
  S5: I guess at the end of the day, people love. Love. Right?
• 20:50
  S6: Well, I think that's true. People ask me, how do
• 20:52
  S6: I explain all of that? And I say, well, for me,
• 20:54
  S6: the short answer is God. And the long answer is God.
• 20:57
  S6: You know, I said I couldn't make that happen if
• 20:59
  S6: I wanted to, but I do think it's because it
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  S6: addresses a universal emotional need that we have as humans,
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  S6: and that is the need to feel loved by the
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  S6: significant people in our lives. So I think when people
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  S6: read it and realize, you know, how we have different
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  S6: languages of love, and if I don't speak their language,
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  S6: I'm going to miss them. They're not going to feel it.
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  S6: Even though I may be sincere. And I think once
• 21:23
  S6: they realize that each other's language and start speaking it.
• 21:26
  S6: Then they want their brother and his wife to read it,
• 21:28
  S6: you know, their sister and her husband. So it's kind
• 21:31
  S6: of gone word of mouth all over the world.
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  S2: It truly has. I was getting my I was getting
• 21:36
  S2: my hair done a couple weeks ago and the gal
• 21:38
  S2: doing my hair, she was no more. I think she
• 21:41
  S2: said she had just turned 20. She was young enough
• 21:44
  S2: to be my daughter and she's just talking. I had
• 21:46
  S2: no reason to believe that she had any sort of
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  S2: exposure at all to church. And she just casually mentions,
• 21:52
  S2: you know, about her dating life. And then she mentions
• 21:54
  S2: her love language. And I thought, wow, again, this 20
• 21:59
  S2: year old, I don't know if she's ever even been
• 22:01
  S2: in church. And she has certainly heard of a love language,
• 22:04
  S2: but my guess is that many people, it's become so
• 22:07
  S2: part of the culture. Many people have no idea that
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  S2: we really can't identify and serve people in their love
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  S2: language without knowing the God of love. Is that right,
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  S2: doctor Gary Chapman absolutely.
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  S6: That's why I wrote another book called God Speaks Your
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  S6: Love Language, because people kept asking me, What's God's love language?
• 22:26
  S6: So I went through the scriptures. God speaks all five
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  S6: of them fluently. And I also studied people's conversion experiences,
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  S6: how they were drawn to Christ in the first place.
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  S6: And often there's a parallel between their primary love language
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  S6: and their conversion experience. For example, Saul on the road
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  S6: to Damascus. He was touched physically by God, knocked off
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  S6: his animal and blinded physical touch. And God brought him
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  S6: to himself, you know? So anyway, it's a fascinating study.
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  S6: The languages of God.
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  S5: Gary, do you think people go to the five love
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  S5: languages primarily to learn what theirs are and their love
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  S5: language is the. I guess we can have a couple
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  S5: top ones, but. Or is it to care for the
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  S5: needs of someone that they love? I don't want to
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  S5: denigrate people wanting to know how they're wired. I don't
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  S5: want to go there because I think that's that's a
• 23:22
  S5: fool's errand. What have you learned? People go looking for
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  S5: their own language and then they discover, oh, this might
• 23:28
  S5: really help someone that I'm married to.
• 23:31
  S6: Well, you know, let's face it, we are all self-centered.
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  S6: And I think what happens often is if couples even
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  S6: read the book together and they both perhaps take the quiz,
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  S6: they learn each other's language, but then sometimes they beat
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  S6: each other over the head. You know, my love language.
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  S6: If you really love me now, you'd speak my love language.
• 23:49
  S6: You know.
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  S7: I bet that's been said.
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  S5: Many hundreds of thousands of times.
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  S6: That's why a new book that we just released in
• 23:58
  S6: January called The Most Important Love Language. And people pick
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  S6: it up and say, I wonder which one it is.
• 24:03
  S6: I wonder which one it is. And in the first
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  S6: paragraph we say the most important love language is the
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  S6: love language of your partner.
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  S7: Yes.
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  S6: We're trying to point them in that direction, you know,
• 24:14
  S6: because we need to be giving love and listen. God
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  S6: loved us when we were unlovely. Yeah. And we're called
• 24:20
  S6: to love others like God loved us so we can
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  S6: love others, even if they're unlovely with the help of God.
• 24:27
  S6: Because the Bible says the love of God is poured
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  S6: in our hearts by the Holy Spirit. So it's amazing
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  S6: what we can do if we simply allow God to
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  S6: use us as a channel of expressing his love to others.
• 24:40
  S5: Now, I was raised in a state where men didn't
• 24:43
  S5: talk about love.
• 24:44
  S6: Mhm.
• 24:45
  S5: We didn't. Uh, Alaska. It was men's men, you know.
• 24:49
  S5: You know what I'm saying? Ali. Yeah. Yeah. Even even, uh,
• 24:53
  S5: you look at sports and locker rooms, there isn't a
• 24:57
  S5: lot of talk about love. There's talk about conquest. That
• 25:00
  S5: ain't love. But. But give us a story of a
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  S5: man's man who broke down and just said, no. There's
• 25:08
  S5: something to this. Speak in someone's love language stuff.
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  S6: Well, I remember one guy who said, you know, Doctor Chapman,
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  S6: my wife and I read your book. He said, she
• 25:18
  S6: made me read it. You know, I didn't want to
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  S6: read it, he said.
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  S7: That's fair.
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  S6: He said. But when I realized that what I had
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  S6: been doing for her for years, which was acts of service,
• 25:28
  S6: you know, doing, you know, helping her with the laundry
• 25:31
  S6: and vacuuming floors and washing the car and mowing the
• 25:34
  S6: grass and all that. And in my mind, that was love.
• 25:37
  S6: I was loving her. But she said, you know, that
• 25:40
  S6: she didn't feel loved and I didn't understand it. And
• 25:43
  S6: he said, until I really began to talk about it
• 25:46
  S6: and think about it and meditate on it and talk
• 25:49
  S6: to other people about it. And I realized, yeah, that's
• 25:52
  S6: not her love language. Now she appreciates all those things,
• 25:56
  S6: and she tells me that, but she still doesn't feel
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  S6: loved because her love language was quality time. And I
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  S6: was always so busy doing things, you know, that I
• 26:04
  S6: wasn't giving her any quality time. What she said actually was,
• 26:08
  S6: we don't ever talk. He's always doing something. You know,
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  S6: we don't ever talk. She was begging for quality time.
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  S6: And he said, whenever I started giving her time, you know,
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  S6: and just sitting down and just talking about us and
• 26:19
  S6: listening to what she wanted to say and sharing ideas,
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  S6: you know? He said her love tank filled up and
• 26:24
  S6: he said, I just wish I'd have read this 20
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  S6: years earlier.
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  S2: Doctor Gary Chapman, you have an upcoming love marriage conference,
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  S2: a big stop in Chesterton, Indiana. And one of the
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  S2: big things you're going to be helping couples with is
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  S2: not just knowing what your spouse's love language is, but
• 26:41
  S2: choosing to act out of love, to renew the relationship,
• 26:46
  S2: even if it feels like they've slipped into a glorified
• 26:49
  S2: roommate state. Talk about this conference, particularly this one coming
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  S2: up in Indiana.
• 26:54
  S6: Yeah. Well, this is a marriage conference that I do
• 26:56
  S6: all over the country, and I'm really excited about being
• 26:58
  S6: in Indiana with this. It's called the Love Language Marriage
• 27:02
  S6: Conference because people understand that concept and we will definitely
• 27:05
  S6: deal with that. But we deal with other things as
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  S6: well in the marriage, such as solving conflicts without arguing.
• 27:12
  S6: You know, most of us, including myself, in the early
• 27:14
  S6: days of our marriage, we argued because I knew I
• 27:17
  S6: was right and she knew she was right, you know?
• 27:19
  S6: And we sometimes yelled at each other, trying to convince
• 27:21
  S6: each other, you know. But that whole thing of how
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  S6: to solve conflicts without arguing, I mean, that alone is
• 27:27
  S6: worth worth the conference with that particular topic. But we
• 27:30
  S6: deal with a lot of other issues in addition to
• 27:33
  S6: the love languages. And it's a fun conference as well.
• 27:36
  S6: And I share, I share some of our own story
• 27:38
  S6: because my wife and I struggled a lot in the
• 27:40
  S6: early years of our marriage. So that's why I have
• 27:43
  S6: empathy for people who are struggling when they sit in
• 27:46
  S6: my office and say, we, we just we just don't
• 27:48
  S6: have any hope. It's not getting any better. And I
• 27:51
  S6: remember when I felt that way, you know, and so
• 27:54
  S6: it's a very practical seminar. It's biblically based but very practical,
• 27:58
  S6: not just theoretical ideas, but really how to apply these
• 28:02
  S6: things in daily life.
• 28:04
  S5: God's power to change lives is real because I cannot
• 28:07
  S5: imagine for the life of me, Gary Chapman raising his voice.
• 28:12
  S5: But he says, it happened. I can't believe it. But
• 28:17
  S5: that's the grace of God. Okay, we want a banner
• 28:19
  S5: at these conferences. One in Chesterton, for sure. But there's
• 28:23
  S5: more than that.
• 28:23
  S2: Love language marriage conference, Chesterton, Indiana, coming up Saturday, November 14th.
• 28:29
  S2: But then as you look ahead to 2027, there's already
• 28:32
  S2: some ones planned. And if you get this link, you
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  S2: can apply to have your local church host one of
• 28:39
  S2: these conferences. All of the details are on the website.
• 28:41
  S2: So just text love to (800) 555-7898. If you are in
• 28:47
  S2: the Chesterton, Indiana area, get to this one. Just text
• 28:50
  S2: love to (800) 555-7899 eight.
• 28:54
  S1: You're listening to Curling Crew on Moody Radio.
• 28:57
  S5: Well, here we are. And what a joy to have
• 29:00
  S5: one of the great men of faith today with us.
• 29:04
  S2: Reverend Stefano Fehr, is joining us. He's the president of
• 29:07
  S2: call of Hope, which is a ministry among Muslims for
• 29:10
  S2: over 120 years. Just give us just a little bit
• 29:14
  S2: of an overview for those who've not heard of call
• 29:16
  S2: of Hope. We are a ministry partner with Moody for
• 29:18
  S2: a while. But tell us, just give us the elevator pitch.
• 29:22
  S8: Yeah. Call of Hope started in 1904. So we celebrated
• 29:27
  S8: actually our 122nd birthday this year. Um, we are a
• 29:34
  S8: ministry working with nationals. We work with Muslim background believers
• 29:41
  S8: in 27 countries. And it's important for us that Muslims
• 29:46
  S8: can get access to the Word of God. Yeah, this
• 29:49
  S8: is what we do. But then of course, we are preaching.
• 29:53
  S8: This is on our heart. But then it's also important
• 29:56
  S8: for us that Muslims also understand that God loves them.
• 30:00
  S8: And this means that you also come over with help
• 30:05
  S8: what they need just to let them feel, hey, you
• 30:07
  S8: are important to us. But number one for us always
• 30:10
  S8: is Preaching. Let the word go out.
• 30:14
  S5: Yeah, the Word of God. In fact, we've seen that
• 30:17
  S5: over and over again. When you open the word and
• 30:20
  S5: you begin to let the Word of God speak. We
• 30:23
  S5: don't need to make the word relevant. We just need
• 30:25
  S5: to expose its relevance. A lot of people may look
• 30:28
  S5: at Muslims and they think, how in the world can
• 30:31
  S5: you reach them? But they're just like you and me.
• 30:34
  S5: They're born with their backs to God. They need a Savior.
• 30:37
  S5: His name is Jesus. And many have not had a
• 30:40
  S5: fair shot at hearing about what Jesus came to do.
• 30:43
  S5: Are you seeing a harvest of souls? Let's go after
• 30:46
  S5: Lebanon here right now.
• 30:48
  S8: Absolutely. And what we see now is, for us, exceptional.
• 30:54
  S8: I mean, yes, the last few years people came to
• 30:57
  S8: the Lord and this is wonderful. And people got baptized.
• 31:01
  S8: We work especially among Syrian refugees in Lebanon and many
• 31:06
  S8: people from Hezbollah background. But what we see this year
• 31:10
  S8: is really something different. Until today, 74 Muslim background believers
• 31:18
  S8: got baptized this year. You know, this is something new
• 31:22
  S8: that this is happening in this scale. And we can
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  S8: just thank the Lord that this is happening. You know,
• 31:28
  S8: sometimes you don't know why. What did we do different?
• 31:32
  S8: We didn't. And you see that the Lord is at work.
• 31:36
  S8: And sometimes I'm so happy to understand it is not
• 31:40
  S8: in our hand. You know, sometimes you think, okay, what
• 31:42
  S8: can we do? And what kind of plans can we have?
• 31:45
  S8: And what is the latest strategy? And then sometimes you feel,
• 31:49
  S8: forget about it. The Lord is at work.
• 31:52
  S5: You know, he's at work.
• 31:53
  S8: People listen to the word and now they react. And
• 31:56
  S8: now is the harvest. And this is different than before
• 32:01
  S8: in Lebanon. And the only thing what I can do
• 32:04
  S8: is to look at it and say, hey, praise the Lord,
• 32:07
  S8: he's at work.
• 32:08
  S2: Stefano Fair with call of Hope with us right now.
• 32:10
  S2: You know, every time you've come in studio, we've heard
• 32:13
  S2: about some project that's going on. We've talked about the
• 32:16
  S2: Goat Project, we've talked about the motorcycle Project, the Bread
• 32:19
  S2: of Life Bakery Project. And I'm sure all of those
• 32:22
  S2: ring a bell for you. What's the latest thing that
• 32:25
  S2: call of Hope has going on where there's maybe an
• 32:27
  S2: area of greatest need?
• 32:29
  S8: You know, there is a country where we don't hear
• 32:34
  S8: much about it. And this is actually Sudan. Sudan is
• 32:38
  S8: at this point really on my heart because very impoverished. Uh,
• 32:42
  S8: you know, it's crazy. We talk about 300,000 killed people.
• 32:47
  S8: We talk about 20 million displaced people. I mean, it's unbelievable.
• 32:53
  S8: We see so many chaotic places in this world. But Sudan,
• 32:59
  S8: I think, is the number one. And for Christians, it's
• 33:03
  S8: so terrible. We have five guys who came to the
• 33:07
  S8: Lord last year and they were just kidnapped, and we
• 33:10
  S8: don't know where they are. We have no idea if
• 33:13
  S8: they are living or not. We don't know. And these
• 33:16
  S8: things are happening all the time. So the Sudan project
• 33:19
  S8: is really on my heart these days to help people
• 33:23
  S8: just not to starve and to live. And the problem
• 33:26
  S8: is that almost nobody actually works in Sudan, you know,
• 33:30
  S8: because it's not really possible. It's a war zone. And
• 33:34
  S8: our people are there and we are going out helping
• 33:38
  S8: them with food. We help them with most needed goods. But,
• 33:46
  S8: you know, we also do things like in the war zone,
• 33:49
  S8: we are having song evenings. Mhm. Um, because it's so
• 33:54
  S8: important for people who live in the circumstances that they
• 33:59
  S8: can hear the Word of God and they can sing,
• 34:02
  S8: you know, it might be crazy a little bit, but
• 34:05
  S8: this is what is happening. And we have sometimes more
• 34:07
  S8: than 600 Muslims coming for the song evenings. And then,
• 34:13
  S8: you know, it's not like in Germany or the US
• 34:16
  S8: where you do that for an hour. You do this
• 34:18
  S8: for 4 or 5, six hours, you know, and you
• 34:21
  S8: give them a meal and after 2 or 3 hours,
• 34:24
  S8: they know the songs and they sing with you. And
• 34:27
  S8: we just saw in the last few months around 30
• 34:32
  S8: small house churches coming up, not not big 7 to
• 34:35
  S8: 10 people, you know, but Muslims coming to the Lord.
• 34:38
  S8: So maybe you could say that's not a spectacular project
• 34:43
  S8: like a goat project also. But it's so important, you know,
• 34:50
  S8: we provide food, we provide medical help, we provide literature,
• 34:56
  S8: Bible calendars, which is very, very important. We need to
• 35:02
  S8: print that in Ethiopia because in Sudan, no way. And
• 35:06
  S8: then we have ways to bring it into the country.
• 35:09
  S8: And people come to the Lord, you know. And this
• 35:13
  S8: is the project which is on my heart, I think,
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  S8: at the moment. Such a packet, which really helps people
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  S8: to live for two weeks is $75. For us, that's
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  S8: not much, but for them, it's really a way to, to,
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  S8: to live, you know, and, and it's, it's their way
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  S8: of seeing, hey, we are not forgotten. And there is
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  S8: somebody who cares for us and God loves us.
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  S5: The cost of following Jesus in Sudan and Lebanon and
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  S5: other places, there is a realness of transformation that is
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  S5: undeniable because much like the day of Pentecost, even more so. Well,
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  S5: probably similar. They said goodbye to families. They said goodbye
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  S5: to inheritance. They said goodbye to a culture. They said
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  S5: goodbye to friendships. They said goodbye to everything. The same
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  S5: is true in Sudan. The amount of cost attached to
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  S5: following Jesus necessitates it would be the real deal, right, Stefano?
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  S8: Absolutely. You know, this is it. We had a guy.
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  S8: His name is Mustansiriyah. He was actually the assistant of
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  S8: a Shariah judge. You know, Sharia Islamic law. And he
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  S8: was his judge. He was the secretary. Had to note
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  S8: down everything. And one day a Christian was accused. His
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  S8: name was Philip and he was on our team. He
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  S8: was accused from a Muslim that, um, they told him
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  S8: he needs to literally shut up because that Muslim accused him.
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  S8: And he said, this guy sings all the time. You know,
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  S8: he sings, he's my neighbor.
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  S5: He won't shut up now.
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  S8: He said, my kids, they listen to these songs and
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  S8: now they sing with him these songs. Hey, he told
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  S8: the Sharia judge, you need to stop that. You know,
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  S8: you really need to stop it. And then he says
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  S8: some verses. I don't know them. They are against Islam.
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  S8: You need to stop it. And the Sharia judge, he
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  S8: got crazy about it. He said, hey, is this really
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  S8: my job? You know? And he told his secretary. He said, okay,
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  S8: now you sit down with this, Philip. You write something
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  S8: down that this guy promises to shut up and then
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  S8: it's over. And then they needed to sit together and
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  S8: after some time asks, hey, what are you quoting here?
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  S8: Are these your words? And he says, no, these are
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  S8: Bible verses. And this guy says, okay, do you think
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  S8: I could have such a Bible?
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  S5: Oh.
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  S8: And he says, okay, let's go to a coffee shop
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  S8: and I can give you one. And this guy got one.
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  S8: He got later one of our Bible calendars, you know, with, uh,
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  S8: these are small diaries with 365 verses for every day.
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  S8: And this guy came to the Lord. But then he made.
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  S8: We could say maybe a mistake, because he left this
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  S8: diary on his desk and a cleaning staff comes. And
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  S8: just think about it. It's Sharia court, you know, and
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  S8: a Bible calendar is on the desk. So of course
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  S8: they questioned him. They understood that he became a Christian.
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  S8: I mean, to cut the long story short, they almost
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  S8: killed him. You know, for days they were hitting him
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  S8: at the end. They just were laying him down somewhere
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  S8: because they thought he was dead.
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  S5: Dead.
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  S8: But he wasn't. And today this guy got baptized and
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  S8: he is living testimony for the Lord. These are things
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  S8: I hear all the time from Sudan. And this is
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  S8: exactly what you say. You know, he knows he might
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  S8: be killed, but he says, okay, if I get got killed,
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  S8: then I will be with Jesus in eternity. And this
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  S8: is the most important to me.
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  S5: Ted is moving.
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  S2: Reverend Stephano, fair. I want to give you a link.
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  S2: We've been featuring the Ministry call of Hope. Just text
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  S2: Hope to 805 557898, hope to 805 557898. If you
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  S2: do want to partner with this ministry, there's an option
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  S2: where you can choose what you want to support. Just
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  S2: pick area of greatest need. Just pick area of greatest need.
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  S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
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  S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
• 39:38
  S1: curl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S9: We have some phenomenal people here at Moody. Can I
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  S9: just tell you that?
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  S3: We sure do.
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  S9: So let me tell you. So, you know, I just
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  S9: I described to you the the whole the.
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  S2: Bible give that Doctor Nelson did during Founder's week on
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  S2: Friday night.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S4: You did.
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  S2: So one of our team members, Chris Sigurd, just sends
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  S2: a little text like, oh, by the way, I pulled
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  S2: that clip for you.
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  S4: He's so on it.
• 40:05
  S2: If you want to play it, which I said, of
• 40:07
  S2: course I would rather you hear this setup. Doctor Nelson,
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  S2: closing night of Founder's Week. Cool story about a Bible
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  S2: that led to an interaction that, oh my goodness, you
• 40:17
  S2: had to be there to fully appreciate. But here's the
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  S2: recorded version from Friday night. Take a listen.
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  S10: I have one other Bible I want to share with
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  S10: you tonight. This Bible is a remarkable Bible. It was
• 40:29
  S10: given to me by my closest friend, Charlie. Now, Charlie
• 40:34
  S10: came to know Christ as a young man and in
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  S10: college began to drift a little bit away from his faith.
• 40:41
  S10: And in God's kindness, Charlie went to an evangelistic crusade,
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  S10: meeting something with college students during his college years, and
• 40:48
  S10: he heard Crawford Levitt speak on Consecrating Your Life to Christ.
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  S10: Charlie took that so seriously that that day he consecrated
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  S10: his life to Christ. He said, I want to use
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  S10: everything that I have to be able to share the
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  S10: gospel and the good news with Jesus Christ. And I
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  S10: met Charlie about 15, maybe even 20 years ago. We
• 41:10
  S10: served together in a ministry together. And because of our friendship,
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  S10: we stayed very, very close. And a number of years ago,
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  S10: in 2013, he had the opportunity in his church to
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  S10: go on a mission trip to Burkina Faso. And when
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  S10: he was in Burkina Faso, he had the opportunity to
• 41:25
  S10: share the gospel and to teach pastors and to equip others.
• 41:29
  S10: He's in the marketplace. He loves Jesus. He continues to
• 41:31
  S10: serve faithfully in his local church and in kindness. Charlie
• 41:35
  S10: brought this Bible back to me and he sent it
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  S10: to me with a very kind note. And in that note,
• 41:40
  S10: he simply said a few words of encouragement. He said,
• 41:44
  S10: Rick and Tammy, thank you for the gift to support
• 41:46
  S10: my Africa trip. It was a lifelong dream come true,
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  S10: and one of the clearest times of seeing God at
• 41:53
  S10: work that I have ever experienced, Crawford writes, encouraged him
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  S10: to be consecrated to consecrate his life. Here is a
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  S10: Bible translated into the local Burkina language Moreh. I hope
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  S10: this reminds you of your work to see the gospel
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  S10: spread across the globe. Thank you Charlie. Now this Bible
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  S10: has sat with many other Bibles on my shelf. I
• 42:17
  S10: have a lot of Bibles, like many of us here.
• 42:19
  S10: I have Bibles that I have from my childhood. I
• 42:21
  S10: have Bibles in different translations, but this is the only
• 42:24
  S10: Bible that I have in a different language. It's in
• 42:27
  S10: Moray from Burkina Faso. When I got to Moody Bible
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  S10: Institute about ten weeks ago, I met a student and
• 42:35
  S10: I asked him where he was from and he said,
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  S10: I'm from Burkina Faso. I said, you are from Burkina Faso.
• 42:44
  S10: You are kidding me. I told him the story about Charlie.
• 42:46
  S10: I told him a story about the Bible, and he
• 42:48
  S10: said to me, I don't have a Bible in my
• 42:51
  S10: own language. And I said, Emmanuel, I have a Bible
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  S10: in your native language. It's in a box and it's
• 42:59
  S10: on its way to Chicago. And a few weeks ago,
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  S10: I was able to begin unpacking all of those boxes
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  S10: in my office. And this is the Bible. Emmanuel, are
• 43:09
  S10: you here tonight? Emmanuel, why don't you come up? Emmanuel.
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  S10: This Bible was entrusted to me, but it was never
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  S10: meant for me. It is a good deposit that has
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  S10: been given to me, that I might entrust it to you,
• 43:54
  S10: that you might teach others also. God bless you, brother.
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  S10: That's the. That's the unstoppable gospel. That Bible was entrusted
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  S10: to me for over a decade so that I could
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  S10: give it to Emmanuel, who will teach others also.
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  S2: Incredible. Oh.
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  S4: I'm crying again.
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  S2: I teared up. People next to me were tearing up.
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  S2: It was such a powerful moment. You know, when you
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  S2: think about the different contexts, you know, if you've not
• 44:44
  S2: traveled a lot. I remember attending an international church service.
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  S2: One of the first ones I attended and I was
• 44:52
  S2: I had this really, really silly thought when you think
• 44:55
  S2: about it, but I thought, oh yeah, God speaks this
• 44:58
  S2: language too. Yes. And it was like I felt almost
• 45:01
  S2: childlike thinking that. But why did I think that God
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  S2: only spoke English?
• 45:05
  S3: Well, I mean, I.
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  S2: Was Moray or Russian or Mandarin.
• 45:10
  S3: I was actually thinking about this while that segment was going.
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  S3: And it's really cool because yeah, we could say, well, yeah,
• 45:17
  S3: but Emmanuel, he had he had other Bibles, he could read,
• 45:20
  S3: he could speak multiple languages. But the realization, the understanding
• 45:24
  S3: God speaks my language to. And I can I can
• 45:28
  S3: read God speaking to me in my own language because
• 45:32
  S3: that's how he communicates with him. And I think that
• 45:34
  S3: that's really the coolest thing.
• 45:36
  S2: It was a powerful interaction from Founders Week. We want
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  S2: to get you the link so that you can watch
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  S2: those past sessions, text founders to 805, five, five, 78, 98.