Latest / This is monsters / Julie Schenecker _ The Murder of Calyx and Beau
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out my vlog. You can click
- 0:03Speaker 1: the link above or get the information down in the description. Thanks.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Mental health is something we still don't talk about enough
- 0:11Speaker 1: in today's society. Sure, most are far more aware of
- 0:15Speaker 1: the effects it can have on a person nowadays, but
- 0:17Speaker 1: with there still being something of a stigma around it,
- 0:20Speaker 1: many who are struggling can often be forced to let
- 0:23Speaker 1: their condition fester. In some cases, it can result in
- 0:27Speaker 1: people reaching a point that they lose sight of not
- 0:29Speaker 1: only themselves, but of everyone else around them as well.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Of course, that's nothing compared to what happened in the
- 0:36Speaker 1: case of Julie Schoenecker, because when she fell, she continued
- 0:40Speaker 1: to spiral downward until she reached a point where she
- 0:42Speaker 1: was capable of carrying out an unforgivable act, something that
- 0:46Speaker 1: no parent should be able to do. This is Monsters.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Thank you. Growing up in Muscatine, Iowa, the pearl of
- 1:26Speaker 1: Mississippi and one-time home of Mark Twain, life at first
- 1:30Speaker 1: glance seemed to be somewhat picturesque for the eldest daughter
- 1:33Speaker 1: of Jim and Patty Peterson Powers. On the outside looking in,
- 1:37Speaker 1: she had everything she could possibly want. She was pretty,
- 1:41Speaker 1: well-liked by her peers, and was a talented athlete, with
- 1:44Speaker 1: her particularly excelling in both track and basketball. In fact,
- 1:48Speaker 1: according to Sylvia Carroll, a childhood friend of Julie's, quote,
- 1:52Speaker 1: She was the epitome of what wholesome is. You wanted
- 1:55Speaker 1: to be like her. That opinion of the all-American young
- 1:59Speaker 1: woman carried on into her time at college where, while
- 2:02Speaker 1: studying at the University of Northern Iowa, she added to
- 2:05Speaker 1: her list of accomplishments by serving as the star hitter
- 2:09Speaker 1: and blocker for their volleyball team. Unfortunately, though, hidden underneath
- 2:14Speaker 1: the surface of this sunny exterior was a more challenging
- 2:17Speaker 1: side because Julie could be very demanding of her teammates.
- 2:21Speaker 1: She often expressed heavy disapproval toward them whenever she thought
- 2:24Speaker 1: they were slacking off, and this competitive attitude also extended
- 2:28Speaker 1: toward her love life as she wasn't shy about telling
- 2:31Speaker 1: both friends and colleagues who were competing for the affections
- 2:34Speaker 1: of the same young man that she was that she
- 2:37Speaker 1: would be the one winning their hearts by hook or
- 2:39Speaker 1: by crook. Despite her Type A personality sometimes putting her
- 2:43Speaker 1: at odds with others, she was largely well-liked anyway. So
- 2:47Speaker 1: when a bout of the flu caused her to play
- 2:49Speaker 1: poorly in a Division I championship game, shattering her hopes
- 2:53Speaker 1: of a professional volleyball career in the process, most were
- 2:56Speaker 1: upset for her and wanted to help pick her back up.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Not that they needed to, though, because, with the drive
- 3:02Speaker 1: Julie had, it wouldn't be long before she was able
- 3:05Speaker 1: to find a new path in life. That path came
- 3:08Speaker 1: shortly after she graduated in 1982 when she signed up
- 3:11Speaker 1: with the United States Army and got sent over to
- 3:14Speaker 1: the Army Language School in Monterey, California in order to
- 3:17Speaker 1: learn Russian. After that, she began working as a Russian linguist.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Of course, learning a new language was only the tip
- 3:25Speaker 1: of the iceberg of what she'd be culture, religion, economy,
- 3:32Speaker 1: and value systems of that particular nation. That suited her
- 3:36Speaker 1: fine because, being as driven as she was, Julie Powers
- 3:40Speaker 1: was able to excel beyond the expectations of her superiors.
- 3:44Speaker 1: As a result of that drive, in 1987, she was
- 3:47Speaker 1: assigned to the 18th Military Intelligence Battalion in Munich, Germany,
- 3:52Speaker 1: where she was tasked with interviewing refugees coming in from
- 3:55Speaker 1: the Eastern Bloc and gathering intelligence from them. Like with
- 3:59Speaker 1: everything else in her life up until that point, Sergeant
- 4:02Speaker 1: Powers carried out her duties to a high level. What's more,
- 4:06Speaker 1: her Type A personality would no longer create conflicts with
- 4:09Speaker 1: her peers because, as a former colleague put it, quote,
- 4:13Speaker 1: everybody we worked with was Type A because of the
- 4:16Speaker 1: nature of the business. Everything was going great for the
- 4:19Speaker 1: young woman from Iowa. The only thing that was missing
- 4:22Speaker 1: was a partner in which to share the good times.
- 4:25Speaker 1: But that would soon come too, as while coaching the
- 4:28Speaker 1: men's army volleyball team, Julie first met Parker Schoenecker, a
- 4:32Speaker 1: senior leader and strategist of the United States intelligence community.
- 4:36Speaker 1: With the two hitting it off immediately, it wasn't long
- 4:39Speaker 1: before they were officially dating. Come 1990, the pair were
- 4:43Speaker 1: briefly separated when, while Julie remained stationed in Munich, Parker
- 4:48Speaker 1: was transferred over to Fort Huachuca in southeast Arizona where
- 4:52Speaker 1: he worked as an instructor for a while. This turned
- 4:55Speaker 1: out to be the starting point for a lot of
- 4:57Speaker 1: Julie's mental health problems, because it was while apart from
- 5:01Speaker 1: her partner that she was first diagnosed with depression. But
- 5:04Speaker 1: rather than come clean with her boyfriend about it once
- 5:07Speaker 1: they were reunited in 1992, she kept it a secret,
- 5:11Speaker 1: apparently ashamed of such a perceived weakness on her part.
- 5:15Speaker 1: It wouldn't be until after the two were married later
- 5:18Speaker 1: that year on October 10th that she finally opened up
- 5:21Speaker 1: about what was going on. Of course, any worries she
- 5:24Speaker 1: may have had about her new husband looking down on
- 5:27Speaker 1: her because of her illness proved to be fruitless as
- 5:30Speaker 1: Parker not only accepted Julie's depression, he embraced it. So
- 5:35Speaker 1: much did he embrace it, in fact, that by 1994
- 5:38Speaker 1: he was able to convince her to leave the army
- 5:40Speaker 1: and become a stay-at-home mom, something he felt would serve
- 5:44Speaker 1: her emotional state better following the good news the two
- 5:47Speaker 1: had recently received about their soon-to-be-growing family. That's right, Julie
- 5:52Speaker 1: had become pregnant earlier in the year. That would lead
- 5:55Speaker 1: to their daughter Calix being born on September 12, 1994,
- 5:58Speaker 1: in nearby Rosenberg, Germany. But that wouldn't be a location
- 6:03Speaker 1: they remained in for long because soon thereafter, Parker was
- 6:07Speaker 1: transferred once more to Fort Leavenworth in Kansas. Still, at
- 6:11Speaker 1: least this meant they got to settle down in the
- 6:13Speaker 1: Midwest for a while as they got to terms with
- 6:15Speaker 1: both being new parents and dealing with Julie's illness. Unfortunately,
- 6:20Speaker 1: even that wouldn't be a permanent home as, once his
- 6:23Speaker 1: time in Kansas was done, Parker and the rest of
- 6:26Speaker 1: the family would be shifted around multiple times, going to
- 6:29Speaker 1: places as far away as Hawaii where, on September 25th, 1997,
- 6:32Speaker 1: their household grew to include a second child, a son
- 6:35Speaker 1: named Bo. To those who knew them, this was a
- 6:41Speaker 1: very happy time, but it was actually a great struggle
- 6:45Speaker 1: for Julie as she suffered terrible postpartum depression following the birth.
- 6:50Speaker 1: That caused her to have to go back on antidepressants.
- 6:53Speaker 1: When her husband was called back to the U.S. mainland
- 6:56Speaker 1: in the winter of 1998, she decided she didn't want
- 7:00Speaker 1: to move back there quite yet as she was enjoying
- 7:02Speaker 1: the warmer climate of Hawaii and the effect it was
- 7:05Speaker 1: having on her mental health. As someone who spent most
- 7:08Speaker 1: of his life living in the Pacific Northwest, I can
- 7:11Speaker 1: tell you that the lack of vitamin D can definitely
- 7:13Speaker 1: affect your mood. That was what led her and the
- 7:16Speaker 1: kids staying behind for an additional six months while Parker
- 7:20Speaker 1: returned to the East Coast to continue with his duties.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Despite the hopes being that the extra time in Hawaii
- 7:26Speaker 1: would help Julie get better, things only continued to worsen.
- 7:31Speaker 1: She felt like she was watching as her husband got
- 7:33Speaker 1: to live the military lifestyle she had once wanted for herself,
- 7:37Speaker 1: which caused her depression to return. In 2001, she suffered
- 7:42Speaker 1: a severe episode. It was so bad that she ended
- 7:45Speaker 1: up being hospitalized at a National Institute of Health facility.
- 7:49Speaker 1: While there, further light was shed on her mental state
- 7:52Speaker 1: as she was diagnosed with both bipolar disorder and schizoaffective disorder,
- 7:58Speaker 1: two conditions that will see a person alternate between episodes
- 8:01Speaker 1: of high-level mania and extreme depression, all while also showing
- 8:05Speaker 1: symptoms such as loss of contact with reality and states
- 8:08Speaker 1: of psychosis. Obviously, that was a major cause of concern
- 8:13Speaker 1: for the family, but at the very least, there was
- 8:15Speaker 1: renewed hope that, now with a formal diagnosis, work could
- 8:19Speaker 1: begin on treating Julie properly for the first time in
- 8:22Speaker 1: her life. While doctors spent the next nine months doing
- 8:26Speaker 1: just that as Julie remained in an inpatient facility, Parker
- 8:29Speaker 1: took up full-time duties of raising the kids, albeit with
- 8:33Speaker 1: a little help from both his mother and a nanny
- 8:35Speaker 1: that he had hired. This seemed to work wonders, at
- 8:38Speaker 1: least for a while because, with the continued therapy, come 2003,
- 8:43Speaker 1: Julie was deemed well enough to return to Germany with
- 8:46Speaker 1: her husband for a family celebration. By the time 2005
- 8:51Speaker 1: rolled around, problems were beginning to arise again as, feeling
- 8:55Speaker 1: like her medication was leaving her altogether numb, the mother
- 8:59Speaker 1: of two had stopped taking it. Not long after they
- 9:02Speaker 1: relocated to Odenton, Maryland in 2005, Julie went through a
- 9:07Speaker 1: six-month period of intense mania which often left her agitated,
- 9:11Speaker 1: unable to control her temper, and with a flurry of
- 9:14Speaker 1: delusional beliefs. But while she may have been happy to
- 9:18Speaker 1: remain in such a state if it meant she could
- 9:20Speaker 1: feel something, Parker was not okay with it. That was why,
- 9:24Speaker 1: in early 2006, unable to handle her outbursts anymore, he
- 9:29Speaker 1: forced his wife to go to Walter Reed Hospital for
- 9:32Speaker 1: further treatment. Of course, this wasn't the only big situation
- 9:36Speaker 1: the family was going through at that point, though, because
- 9:39Speaker 1: elsewhere in his personal life, Parker had received news that
- 9:42Speaker 1: he was finally going to be made colonel and moved
- 9:45Speaker 1: to the United States Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
- 9:49Speaker 1: This unfortunately meant that, whether it was good for her
- 9:52Speaker 1: stability or not, Julie and her kids would have to
- 9:55Speaker 1: be relocated again, this time to Boiling Springs, a township
- 10:00Speaker 1: in Cumberland County. Perhaps surprisingly, this move did not cause
- 10:04Speaker 1: her to slip into either a manic or depressive state
- 10:07Speaker 1: as some had feared it would. No, partially as a
- 10:10Speaker 1: result of the quiet and calming atmosphere of the town,
- 10:13Speaker 1: Julie's mental health somewhat stabilized. As if that wasn't good
- 10:17Speaker 1: enough news, the kids seemed to be doing well in
- 10:20Speaker 1: their new home too. After years of constantly having their
- 10:23Speaker 1: lives moved around, both Calyx and Bo were finally able
- 10:27Speaker 1: to lay down some roots and make some friends amongst
- 10:29Speaker 1: the local children living there. But as was probably always
- 10:32Speaker 1: to be expected, this brief haven of paradise would only
- 10:36Speaker 1: be temporary because just two years later in 2008, Parker
- 10:40Speaker 1: was re-stationed once again, this time to Tampa, Florida. While
- 10:45Speaker 1: that would finally prove to be a more long-term settling
- 10:48Speaker 1: point for the family, it was also the period where
- 10:51Speaker 1: Julie first became aware of the work of German New
- 10:54Speaker 1: Age author Eckhart Tolle. Why was that important? Well, after
- 10:59Speaker 1: reading about his thoughts on identity in his self-help book
- 11:02Speaker 1: entitled A New Earth, Awaken Your Life's Purpose, the troubled
- 11:06Speaker 1: young woman took to viewing her own mental state from
- 11:10Speaker 1: a different perspective. But then why wouldn't she? Because according
- 11:13Speaker 1: to what he claimed, none of our identities were to
- 11:16Speaker 1: be derived from our senses of who we are, but
- 11:19Speaker 1: rather from who we wanted to be. So Julie saw
- 11:23Speaker 1: in that a new hope for herself. one that meant
- 11:25Speaker 1: she didn't have to focus on the voice in her
- 11:27Speaker 1: head struggling with mental illness as being the real version
- 11:31Speaker 1: of herself. She felt emboldened to seek out a better
- 11:34Speaker 1: self instead, something that could initially be seen as a
- 11:37Speaker 1: good thing. Now, that wasn't all she took from the
- 11:40Speaker 1: teachings of Tal, however. No, and perhaps a more troubling
- 11:44Speaker 1: learning experience, given the acts she would later commit. Julie
- 11:48Speaker 1: was also taken with a particular comment in a prior
- 11:51Speaker 1: book of his which stated that death was merely an illusion.
- 11:55Speaker 1: So it should go without saying that the majority of
- 11:58Speaker 1: Eckhart Tolle's writing has largely been derided as spiritual mumbo-jumbo
- 12:03Speaker 1: by experts on the subject. It was something that may
- 12:06Speaker 1: provide help to a minority, but had no real basis
- 12:10Speaker 1: in either science or medicine. The psychiatric community believed it
- 12:14Speaker 1: shouldn't be used as a substitute for psychotherapy, especially if
- 12:18Speaker 1: you were suffering from the kind of serious condition that
- 12:21Speaker 1: Julie was. But she wasn't interested in such pleas by now.
- 12:25Speaker 1: As far as she saw it, something was finally working
- 12:28Speaker 1: for her and why would she throw that away in
- 12:31Speaker 1: order to continue on with the same old medication and
- 12:33Speaker 1: therapy that had only brought her temporary relief in the past?
- 12:37Speaker 1: When you look at it from that perspective, it's easy
- 12:40Speaker 1: to understand her point of view. After all, the medical
- 12:43Speaker 1: community doesn't have the answer to every question. How could they?
- 12:47Speaker 1: None of us do. And regardless of how others felt
- 12:50Speaker 1: about this validity, the teachings of Tall were certainly working
- 12:53Speaker 1: for Julie. By 2009, she had managed to make a
- 12:57Speaker 1: number of friends in the area and was even feeling
- 13:00Speaker 1: well enough to take part in various charity events around
- 13:03Speaker 1: Tampa with those friends. She was even well enough to
- 13:06Speaker 1: return back home to Iowa later that same year for
- 13:09Speaker 1: a reunion with her old college friends. And while those
- 13:13Speaker 1: friends quickly noticed how different she seemed, far less bubbly
- 13:17Speaker 1: and more subdued than before, she claimed to be her
- 13:20Speaker 1: old self, someone who was living a happy life with
- 13:23Speaker 1: her family. Despite her claims that things were different now
- 13:26Speaker 1: and the teachings of Tal had opened her up to
- 13:29Speaker 1: a whole new world of knowledge, without proper medication and psychotherapy,
- 13:34Speaker 1: it was always going to be a matter of time
- 13:36Speaker 1: before issues began to resurface. So it should come as
- 13:39Speaker 1: little surprise when on November 6th, 2010, police were called
- 13:44Speaker 1: to the Schoenecker house to investigate allegations of child abuse.
- 13:48Speaker 1: That's right, even if things looked rosier than ever to
- 13:51Speaker 1: the outside world, with Julie appearing better and both Calyx
- 13:55Speaker 1: and Bo doing well at school, clearly there were still problems.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Enough to where Calyx would actually report her mother to
- 14:02Speaker 1: the police after she was allegedly hit across the face. Now,
- 14:06Speaker 1: it should be noted that as far as Parker was concerned,
- 14:09Speaker 1: much of what was happening at home was happening without
- 14:12Speaker 1: his knowledge. With him still serving in the military, he
- 14:15Speaker 1: was often called away from home for lengthy periods of time.
- 14:19Speaker 1: This obviously only added to the stresses of his troubled
- 14:23Speaker 1: wife as she increasingly found it difficult to effectively raise
- 14:26Speaker 1: two kids by herself. The police, on the other hand,
- 14:30Speaker 1: certainly weren't as understanding. No, they took this case of
- 14:34Speaker 1: child abuse very seriously, especially since, in the weeks leading
- 14:38Speaker 1: up to the call, Kalix had started counseling at the
- 14:41Speaker 1: Children's Crisis Center in Tampa after it was noticed her
- 14:45Speaker 1: behavior had started to change at school. When the young
- 14:48Speaker 1: girl explained to the officers that four days prior to
- 14:51Speaker 1: them being called on November 2nd, she was being driven
- 14:54Speaker 1: home from cross-country practice by her mother and had been
- 14:57Speaker 1: repeatedly hit across the face with a series of open-palmed strikes,
- 15:02Speaker 1: they had a lot of follow-up questions. Why had Julie
- 15:05Speaker 1: decided to physically assault her daughter? Well, Julie explained that
- 15:09Speaker 1: apparently the two had gotten into an argument when, after
- 15:13Speaker 1: stopping off at the grocery store, Calix wouldn't show her
- 15:16Speaker 1: mother what she had just purchased. Instead, she told her
- 15:19Speaker 1: mother to stay out of her business as she was
- 15:22Speaker 1: disgusting and, quote, not her real parent. After that, the
- 15:26Speaker 1: beating began, something that Julie did not dispute took place,
- 15:30Speaker 1: although she did dispute the severity of it. And given
- 15:33Speaker 1: the fact there was no physical damage left behind, the
- 15:37Speaker 1: legal loophole in the state of Florida meant that it
- 15:39Speaker 1: was deemed minor enough to where no charges would be filed. Still,
- 15:45Speaker 1: even if this incident ended without legal repercussions, it had
- 15:49Speaker 1: far further reaching effects in that it shattered the carefully
- 15:52Speaker 1: constructed idea of Julie being someone who was doing better,
- 15:56Speaker 1: and that their family situation was a harmonious one. Even
- 16:00Speaker 1: if this was a relatively minor argument, one similar to
- 16:03Speaker 1: which many households have probably gone through at times, the
- 16:07Speaker 1: fact that Calyx felt the need to say something so
- 16:10Speaker 1: cutting to her mother, combined with the fact that Julie
- 16:13Speaker 1: felt a suitable response to that was to start hitting
- 16:16Speaker 1: her across the face... suggested they were deeper-rooted issues being
- 16:20Speaker 1: hidden from public view. And yes, you could argue that
- 16:24Speaker 1: this is the case for pretty much any family, as
- 16:26Speaker 1: we all have a side we show to the world
- 16:28Speaker 1: and a side we keep behind closed doors. But usually
- 16:31Speaker 1: that shrouded side doesn't involve physical abuse. Abuse that was
- 16:36Speaker 1: no doubt heightened by Julie's increasingly disintegrating mental state. On
- 16:40Speaker 1: top of that, it usually doesn't require a once bright
- 16:43Speaker 1: and happy 16-year-old girl to start going to counseling. Sure,
- 16:48Speaker 1: she was a teenager by now, and this time period
- 16:50Speaker 1: can play havoc with someone's emotions, but what was happening
- 16:54Speaker 1: there was clearly more than just simple teenage angst. If
- 16:58Speaker 1: anyone had been paying attention during the months prior, they'd
- 17:01Speaker 1: have noticed that Julie was getting worse and worse by
- 17:04Speaker 1: the day, something evident in many of the social media
- 17:07Speaker 1: posts she made throughout 2010. Her relationship with Calyx in
- 17:12Speaker 1: particular had been deteriorating for some time, largely on the
- 17:16Speaker 1: account of the young girl's growing wariness of opening up
- 17:19Speaker 1: to her mother as she knew her poor mental statement
- 17:22Speaker 1: could result in yet another argument. In an attempt to
- 17:25Speaker 1: put some distance between herself and her mother, Calyx had
- 17:28Speaker 1: actually applied to go to boarding school the following year
- 17:32Speaker 1: so she wouldn't have to be at home anymore, and
- 17:34Speaker 1: some of her friends had started to pick up on
- 17:36Speaker 1: this discontent too, with one in particular often inviting her
- 17:40Speaker 1: to stay at her house overnight so she could get
- 17:42Speaker 1: some distance from Julie. It's just as well she had
- 17:45Speaker 1: this escape, brief as it was, as it kept her
- 17:48Speaker 1: able to focus on school wear alongside her brother she
- 17:51Speaker 1: apparently picked up the athletic gene. Not only were both
- 17:55Speaker 1: the Schoenecker children considered star students on account of their
- 17:58Speaker 1: good grades and behavior, but they were also considered star athletes.
- 18:03Speaker 1: People who may have had bright futures ahead of them
- 18:05Speaker 1: in that world if they played their cards right. While
- 18:09Speaker 1: their overall future was looking positive, Julie's future was not.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Hers was only getting worse and worse because on November 8th,
- 18:17Speaker 1: just two days after the police had questioned her on
- 18:19Speaker 1: allegations of child abuse, she was involved in a car
- 18:23Speaker 1: accident and sent to the hospital. It turned out that
- 18:26Speaker 1: the accident was her fault as she'd been driving under
- 18:29Speaker 1: the influence, something she'd been doing regularly for some time.
- 18:34Speaker 1: After undergoing surgery earlier in that year, Julie had been
- 18:37Speaker 1: prescribed OxyContin for pain relief. And like with so many
- 18:41Speaker 1: other Americans who were prescribed this particular drug, she soon
- 18:45Speaker 1: became addicted to it to the point she couldn't go
- 18:47Speaker 1: a day without it. On top of that, she'd also
- 18:50Speaker 1: begin drinking heavily, something her husband Parker was aware of.
- 18:54Speaker 1: But while he couldn't force her to enter rehab, he
- 18:57Speaker 1: could at least forbid her from getting behind the wheel
- 18:59Speaker 1: of a car. Or so he thought. It turned out
- 19:02Speaker 1: to be a rule she evidently didn't listen to based
- 19:05Speaker 1: on the fact she managed to injure both herself and
- 19:07Speaker 1: another driver while intoxicated. As a result, Julie was required
- 19:12Speaker 1: to enter a 21-day drug rehabilitation program. Once she completed
- 19:17Speaker 1: the program, the symptoms of her illness didn't appear to
- 19:20Speaker 1: have gotten any better. If anything, they were worse. That
- 19:24Speaker 1: was evident in the fact that, aside from continuing to
- 19:27Speaker 1: abuse alcohol and OxyContin, she also cut off all contact
- 19:31Speaker 1: with friends and family and would now spend as many
- 19:34Speaker 1: as 20 hours a day in bed. Despite that, she
- 19:38Speaker 1: still remained chronically tired during those few hours she was
- 19:41Speaker 1: up and about, something that's fairly common for those going
- 19:44Speaker 1: through a depressive phase of bipolar disorder. At least there
- 19:48Speaker 1: was some hope on the horizon for her. as, later
- 19:50Speaker 1: that year after agreeing to take part in family therapy,
- 19:54Speaker 1: Julie's condition improved somewhat. Due to that, by the time
- 19:58Speaker 1: Christmas rolled around, the household seemed to be a happy
- 20:01Speaker 1: one once again. Even social workers agreed when they carried
- 20:05Speaker 1: out a follow-up visit after the child abuse allegations from
- 20:09Speaker 1: months prior, with their findings being that the children seemed
- 20:12Speaker 1: happy and that Julie was in an altogether better place.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Not to sound like a broken record, but what seemed
- 20:19Speaker 1: like a new dawn for a new year ended up
- 20:22Speaker 1: being only the calm before the storms. That was because
- 20:26Speaker 1: on January 10th, 2011, just a couple of weeks later,
- 20:30Speaker 1: Parker received news he was to be deployed out to
- 20:33Speaker 1: the Middle East immediately. Obviously, concerned about leaving his wife
- 20:38Speaker 1: with the responsibility of looking after the kids given that
- 20:41Speaker 1: she'd only just gotten herself back into a better place,
- 20:44Speaker 1: he discussed with Julie the idea of asking for a
- 20:47Speaker 1: delay in his deployment so that they could remain together
- 20:50Speaker 1: for a little longer. As far as Julie was concerned, though,
- 20:54Speaker 1: that was entirely unnecessary as she believed she would be
- 20:57Speaker 1: fine to take care of both Calyx and Bo alone.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Of course, while she may have felt that way, her
- 21:03Speaker 1: family did not. So not long after Parker was shipped
- 21:06Speaker 1: out once more, he received an email from a number
- 21:10Speaker 1: of them who argued that by leaving her behind at
- 21:12Speaker 1: such a critical time, he was risking letting her slip again.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Parker took great offense to that, as he believed he'd
- 21:19Speaker 1: done everything in his power to make sure Julie was
- 21:21Speaker 1: being taken care of. In his email response, he made
- 21:25Speaker 1: those feelings clear by stating that none of them understood
- 21:28Speaker 1: the difficulties of being married to a woman who was
- 21:31Speaker 1: so broken. Now, that wasn't meant to be a shot
- 21:35Speaker 1: at his wife, but it certainly could have been taken
- 21:37Speaker 1: that way. That was why, once Julie found out an
- 21:40Speaker 1: email had been sent to their family and asked to
- 21:43Speaker 1: see it, her brother refused to forward it along. Rather
- 21:47Speaker 1: than put her mind at ease, it only served to
- 21:49Speaker 1: make her start worrying about what could have possibly been
- 21:52Speaker 1: in that email. With those worries came the beginnings of
- 21:55Speaker 1: a fall back into depression. Was her husband unhappy with
- 21:59Speaker 1: their marriage? Had he finally got tired of her and
- 22:02Speaker 1: her issues? Was this a sign that things were coming
- 22:05Speaker 1: to an end and he would soon ask for a divorce?
- 22:08Speaker 1: These were just some of the thoughts that ran through
- 22:10Speaker 1: Julie's mind, and it apparently put a stress on her
- 22:13Speaker 1: relationship with her kids again, too. Around that time, she
- 22:17Speaker 1: wrote a journal entry that stated they were being disrespectful
- 22:20Speaker 1: towards her and that she was going to have to
- 22:22Speaker 1: take care of it. Following that, on January 22nd, she
- 22:27Speaker 1: traveled 44 miles or 70 kilometers round-trip to a lock-and-load
- 22:32Speaker 1: gun store in order to purchase a weapon that she
- 22:35Speaker 1: claimed was for home defense. As she put it, there
- 22:38Speaker 1: had been a handful of home invasion robberies in her
- 22:41Speaker 1: area as of late and she wanted to make sure
- 22:43Speaker 1: her family was safe should such a thing happen to them.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Julie, due to state gun laws, the purchase
- 22:51Speaker 1: of the revolver she wanted would be delayed three days
- 22:55Speaker 1: while a background check was carried out. Disappointed, she returned
- 22:59Speaker 1: home and left an altogether chilling note in her diary
- 23:03Speaker 1: that simply read, quote, the massacre will be delayed. Yep,
- 23:08Speaker 1: at this point, Julie had made the decision to kill
- 23:11Speaker 1: her children and then take her own life, with that
- 23:14Speaker 1: being the reason she'd chosen to travel to a gun
- 23:16Speaker 1: store in a different county as it meant it was
- 23:19Speaker 1: less likely it would be noticed by anyone in her family.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Why had she decided her kids needed to die? Well,
- 23:26Speaker 1: a number of different possible reasons were given after the fact,
- 23:30Speaker 1: with one suggestion being that Julie was worried Calyx and
- 23:33Speaker 1: Bo were going to inherit her mental illness. So, rather
- 23:37Speaker 1: than have them spend the rest of their lives suffering
- 23:40Speaker 1: like she was, she felt the best thing to do
- 23:43Speaker 1: was to put them out of their misery. Of the
- 23:46Speaker 1: five types of filicide, this would be referred to as
- 23:50Speaker 1: altruistic filicide, a parent killing their child in order to
- 23:54Speaker 1: save them from something, a life of poverty or, in
- 23:57Speaker 1: this case, an inherited physical or mental health problem. Even
- 24:02Speaker 1: a phone call from her husband wouldn't change her mind
- 24:05Speaker 1: about her plans. When Parker spoke to her soon after
- 24:08Speaker 1: and asked if everything was going okay at home, she
- 24:11Speaker 1: simply responded that everything was fine. When he informed her
- 24:15Speaker 1: and the rest of the family that he would be
- 24:17Speaker 1: returning home soon, she seemed happy about the news, despite
- 24:21Speaker 1: her already being well aware that by the time he
- 24:23Speaker 1: did return, her plan would already have been enacted. By then,
- 24:28Speaker 1: the troubled woman had gotten her hands on the revolver
- 24:31Speaker 1: she'd purchased days ago following a successful background check. That's right,
- 24:36Speaker 1: despite Julie having a history of mental illness, she had
- 24:40Speaker 1: no problem legally purchasing a handgun. So after traveling back
- 24:45Speaker 1: home with the weapon on January 27th, she went to
- 24:48Speaker 1: her journal once more and wrote out detailed notes on
- 24:51Speaker 1: how she was going to kill her children and then
- 24:54Speaker 1: end her own life. She'd wait until the following day,
- 24:57Speaker 1: when the time was right in her mind. Then, when
- 25:00Speaker 1: that time came and everything was ready, Julie started the
- 25:03Speaker 1: morning by getting up early in order to drive Bo
- 25:06Speaker 1: to soccer practice. What her son didn't realize, though, was
- 25:10Speaker 1: that she was bringing her revolver along for the ride.
- 25:13Speaker 1: And so, when he said something that set her off mid-journey,
- 25:17Speaker 1: causing her to pull out her weapon and fire a
- 25:19Speaker 1: shot into the windshield, he was understandably terrified. Sure, he
- 25:24Speaker 1: knew his mother had a history of instability, But this
- 25:27Speaker 1: was another level of danger altogether. That's why he begged
- 25:31Speaker 1: her to put the gun away before someone got hurt.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, however, this request only seemed to anger
- 25:39Speaker 1: Julie further, and at that point, she fired two shots
- 25:42Speaker 1: into his head, killing him instantly. Did you shoot Beau?
- 25:56Speaker 1: Now it's hard to imagine what Julie's thought process must
- 26:00Speaker 1: have been as she looked at her dead son sitting
- 26:03Speaker 1: in the passenger seat next to her. Did she feel
- 26:05Speaker 1: guilty or was she too far gone for that? Sadly,
- 26:21Speaker 1: the latter seemed more likely as she wasn't done with
- 26:23Speaker 1: the killing quite yet. No, she still had her daughter
- 26:27Speaker 1: to take care of. With Bo's body still warm by
- 26:30Speaker 1: her side, she drove back home where she planned to
- 26:33Speaker 1: finish the task at hand. Once there, she left the
- 26:37Speaker 1: car in the garage and headed into the house where
- 26:39Speaker 1: Calyx was sitting at her desk doing homework. Of course,
- 26:43Speaker 1: the young girl had no idea what her mother had
- 26:46Speaker 1: just done and certainly wasn't aware of any immediate danger
- 26:49Speaker 1: she was in. That was why she didn't even bother
- 26:52Speaker 1: to look up from her computer when Julie entered her
- 26:55Speaker 1: bedroom and fired a single shot directly into the back
- 26:59Speaker 1: of her head. She then put a second bullet into
- 27:02Speaker 1: her daughter's mouth. What was she doing? She was at
- 27:09Speaker 1: homework on the computer? Yeah? You came up behind her
- 27:12Speaker 1: with what? Okay. And what happened? I shot her in
- 27:19Speaker 1: the back of the head. Because she was running her
- 27:21Speaker 1: mouth at you? Yeah. And then I shot her, I think,
- 27:25Speaker 1: in the mouth. Okay. That's when I wanted to shoot you.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Why did you want to shoot her in the mouth?
- 27:32Speaker 1: Because it angers me so much. Her mouth angers you? Yeah.
- 27:39Speaker 1: So what happened after that? At least there was a
- 27:43Speaker 1: small silver lining in the fact that, unlike her brother,
- 27:46Speaker 1: the 16-year-old never saw what was coming and as a
- 27:50Speaker 1: result would have never felt a thing. With the deed
- 28:10Speaker 1: now done, Julie could set about carrying out the final
- 28:13Speaker 1: act of her plan, which was to kill herself too.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Before she did that though, she first went to the
- 28:19Speaker 1: linen closet and picked out a pair of blankets. She
- 28:22Speaker 1: took one of them to the bedroom where Calyx was
- 28:25Speaker 1: and covered her with it, then went back out to
- 28:28Speaker 1: the garage with the other and draped it over Bo's
- 28:30Speaker 1: lifeless body. Following that, the now completely deranged mother sat
- 28:35Speaker 1: down at her computer and composed an email to her
- 28:38Speaker 1: husband that read, quote, Get home soon. We're waiting for you.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Was this a sign that she was goading Parker with
- 28:46Speaker 1: a cruel final goodbye? Or was it merely a sign
- 28:49Speaker 1: she had entirely lost grip on reality at that point?
- 28:53Speaker 1: The truth is hard to tell, and the following email
- 28:55Speaker 1: she sent to her mother and siblings doesn't really paint
- 28:58Speaker 1: a clearer picture either. In that correspondence, Julie did state
- 29:03Speaker 1: that she was feeling suicidal and that she was tired
- 29:06Speaker 1: of the kids always talking back to her. Of course,
- 29:09Speaker 1: she made no mention of their deaths and didn't show
- 29:11Speaker 1: any remorse about killing them. That said, she did state
- 29:15Speaker 1: it would all be over soon, something that, when her
- 29:18Speaker 1: family read the email, instantly caused them to fear the worst.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Before they had a chance to read her message and
- 29:24Speaker 1: try to contact her, though, she had ventured out into
- 29:27Speaker 1: the backyard where she sat by the pool, chain-smoked, and
- 29:31Speaker 1: wrote out in detail her reasons for doing what she had.
- 29:35Speaker 1: What she wrote? Well, it would contradict her later claim
- 29:39Speaker 1: of having been worried. about future mental health problems with
- 29:42Speaker 1: her kids. After describing the murders in a very matter-of-fact manner,
- 29:47Speaker 1: she stated she had killed them both as they were
- 29:49Speaker 1: too mouthy and kept talking back to her. It was
- 29:52Speaker 1: the same thing she would tell investigators in her initial interrogation. Clearly,
- 29:58Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult to get any kind
- 30:00Speaker 1: of consistent and logical reasoning behind her actions, as if
- 30:04Speaker 1: there ever could be a logical reason behind killing your
- 30:06Speaker 1: own offspring. What her statement did add further credence to, though,
- 30:11Speaker 1: was that she was completely insane by then and couldn't
- 30:14Speaker 1: be held accountable for her actions, something her lawyers would
- 30:18Speaker 1: later use in court to try to get her out
- 30:20Speaker 1: of serving prison time. But if Julie had her way
- 30:23Speaker 1: that fateful evening, she would have never been sitting in
- 30:25Speaker 1: a courtroom at all. No, her plan was to die
- 30:29Speaker 1: right there and then, something she set about doing when
- 30:32Speaker 1: after sending one last rambling and incoherent text message to
- 30:36Speaker 1: a friend, she attempted to overdose on prescription pills. In
- 30:42Speaker 1: the end, however, that didn't kill her as planned. By
- 30:45Speaker 1: the next morning, when Julie's mother read the email she
- 30:48Speaker 1: had been sent the day before, her daughter was still alive.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Of course, given the amount of pills she had taken,
- 30:55Speaker 1: she was only barely, and that meant when her mom
- 30:57Speaker 1: called the house to check on her well-being immediately after,
- 31:00Speaker 1: she wouldn't be able to answer the phone. When a
- 31:03Speaker 1: call was then made to the kids in order to
- 31:05Speaker 1: see if they had heard from their mother, they obviously
- 31:08Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to pick up either. With her mind
- 31:11Speaker 1: now jumping to the worst possible conclusion, Patty Peterson Powers
- 31:15Speaker 1: felt the only thing to do was to contact the police.
- 31:18Speaker 1: When she got a hold of them and explained the situation,
- 31:21Speaker 1: they agreed to go out to the Schoenecker household and
- 31:24Speaker 1: check out the situation. Now, it should be noted that
- 31:27Speaker 1: these kinds of calls are not entirely uncommon, so it's
- 31:31Speaker 1: unlikely the officers who were assigned to the wellness check
- 31:34Speaker 1: expected to find a full-blown murder scene once they arrived.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Upon reaching the front door at 7.45 a.m. that morning,
- 31:42Speaker 1: they noticed a message taped to it telling the family
- 31:45Speaker 1: who the kids usually carpooled to school with that they
- 31:48Speaker 1: were going to be away for the weekend. Obviously, this
- 31:51Speaker 1: immediately raised suspicions given the nature of the email Julie
- 31:55Speaker 1: had sent the night before. Feeling like lives could be
- 31:59Speaker 1: at risk, the officers walked around to the enclosed pool
- 32:02Speaker 1: area at the back of the house, and there they
- 32:05Speaker 1: found the mother of two laying unconscious on the ground
- 32:07Speaker 1: with her clothes soaked in blood. After seeing that, they
- 32:11Speaker 1: realized something terrible had happened, so they entered the garden
- 32:15Speaker 1: to see if the unconscious woman was still alive, and
- 32:18Speaker 1: to their surprise, she was. They may have initially believed
- 32:22Speaker 1: that she was a victim, but that idea was quickly
- 32:25Speaker 1: washed away when she gave them permission to enter the house.
- 32:29Speaker 1: At that point, realizing the final part of her plan
- 32:32Speaker 1: had failed, Julie apparently felt no need to hide what
- 32:35Speaker 1: she had done. After all, it wasn't as if people
- 32:39Speaker 1: weren't going to find out anyway. That was why she
- 32:42Speaker 1: led the two officers into her home where they first
- 32:45Speaker 1: discovered the body of Calix still laying dead in her bedroom,
- 32:48Speaker 1: with the only thing now different being the fact that
- 32:51Speaker 1: she had been moved from her desk chair to her bed.
- 32:55Speaker 1: After that, the killer led officers to the garage where
- 32:58Speaker 1: 13-year-old Bo remained strapped into the front passenger seat of
- 33:02Speaker 1: the family minivan, the blanket covering him now fully blood-soaked.
- 33:06Speaker 1: When asked what had happened, Julie felt no hesitation in
- 33:09Speaker 1: explaining that she killed them both and attempted to kill herself.
- 33:14Speaker 1: When police asked her why she had done it, she
- 33:16Speaker 1: was recorded saying, My daughter, the 16-year-old, is mouthy. She
- 33:21Speaker 1: calls me names. Clearly, this was a case of murder,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and given it had been apparently planned out ahead of time,
- 33:27Speaker 1: it was murder in the first degree. After reporting the
- 33:31Speaker 1: incident to their superiors, the two officers on scene arrested
- 33:35Speaker 1: Julie and waited for a team to show up to
- 33:37Speaker 1: further investigate the house. During the investigation, it didn't take
- 33:41Speaker 1: long to lead to a Smith & Wesson box and
- 33:44Speaker 1: instruction manual lying in the bathtub, along with 15 live
- 33:48Speaker 1: rounds and five spent ones next to it. On top
- 33:52Speaker 1: of that, Julie's journal was discovered on her bed with
- 33:55Speaker 1: the final entry reading, quote, I have really lost my mind.
- 34:00Speaker 1: I'm so sad. My two babies. It was too easy
- 34:03Speaker 1: to take them out. Of course, attempts were made to
- 34:06Speaker 1: keep the situation quiet from the public at first, at
- 34:10Speaker 1: least until a complete picture could be pieced together of
- 34:12Speaker 1: why exactly the murders had taken place. But it didn't
- 34:16Speaker 1: take long for the neighbors to become aware of the
- 34:18Speaker 1: situation and for word to start spreading around the neighborhood.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Understandably then, when they did find out, the local community
- 34:26Speaker 1: were shocked as both Calyx and Bo had been well-liked
- 34:29Speaker 1: by everyone around them, with the general opinion being that
- 34:32Speaker 1: they were two very promising children who were managing to
- 34:35Speaker 1: do well despite growing up in a difficult environment. As
- 34:39Speaker 1: to Julie, however, there was far less goodwill directed her way.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Even if it was understood among those living nearby that
- 34:47Speaker 1: she was struggling with mental illness and had been doing
- 34:50Speaker 1: so for some time, it was something that no one
- 34:52Speaker 1: imagined she'd be able to carry out. How could any mother,
- 34:56Speaker 1: whether ill or not, ever consider hurting her children? That
- 34:59Speaker 1: was an attitude that was shared by police spokeswoman Laura McElroy,
- 35:03Speaker 1: especially upon reading Julie's cold and matter-of-fact description of the
- 35:07Speaker 1: crime itself in her journal entries. As she put it,
- 35:12Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that a mother authored the notes
- 35:14Speaker 1: because it's a very methodical, non-emotional description of the murder
- 35:18Speaker 1: of two innocent children, of her own children. When she's
- 35:22Speaker 1: describing it, it's just very matter-of-fact, devoid of emotion. On
- 35:27Speaker 1: top of that, the spokeswoman also added that those same
- 35:30Speaker 1: journal entries seemed to confirm that the murders had been premeditated.
- 35:34Speaker 1: She said, quote, While the rest of the community were
- 35:36Speaker 1: trying to come to grips with what had occurred, one
- 35:38Speaker 1: person who was still in the dark about the entire
- 35:41Speaker 1: situation was Parker. Still in Qatar waiting to come home,
- 35:54Speaker 1: he wouldn't find out about the deaths of his children
- 35:56Speaker 1: until his family contacted him with the devastating news. When
- 36:00Speaker 1: he did finally find out, it would break him entirely
- 36:03Speaker 1: as he realized everything in his life that he loved
- 36:06Speaker 1: had been destroyed in a single instant. After briefly meeting
- 36:10Speaker 1: with Julie in prison to inform her that he wanted
- 36:13Speaker 1: a divorce, he would have no further contact with her.
- 36:16Speaker 1: No one would, though. She was completely isolated from everyone
- 36:20Speaker 1: other than her legal team, a legal team that eventually
- 36:23Speaker 1: convinced her that, despite her prior confession, she might be
- 36:27Speaker 1: able to plead not guilty on grounds of insanity. That
- 36:31Speaker 1: development meant that the trial was suddenly looking as though
- 36:34Speaker 1: it might not be as clear-cut as those looking for
- 36:36Speaker 1: justice were hoping it would be. While Julie was awaiting trial,
- 36:41Speaker 1: Calix's classmates were memorializing her by planting a willow tree
- 36:45Speaker 1: on campus, something that the Harry Potter superfan always wanted
- 36:49Speaker 1: to see happen as to her it represented the Whomping
- 36:52Speaker 1: Willow from the series. It was an emotional moment of
- 36:55Speaker 1: catharsis for the kids who had lost a friend, but
- 36:58Speaker 1: that wouldn't make the trial process any faster, unfortunately. In
- 37:02Speaker 1: August of 2012, both sides were able to successfully argue
- 37:07Speaker 1: that they needed at least a year to review files
- 37:10Speaker 1: found on the computer in the Schoenecker home. While that
- 37:13Speaker 1: delay was occurring, Parker was keeping himself busy by filing
- 37:17Speaker 1: a separate wrongful death civil suit against his soon-to-be ex-wife,
- 37:22Speaker 1: one he took great care to clarify to the media
- 37:25Speaker 1: was not about getting any money from her directly. but
- 37:28Speaker 1: it was merely about making sure she didn't get access
- 37:31Speaker 1: to the family's funds in order to pay for her
- 37:33Speaker 1: legal fees. Thankfully for him, he would ultimately be successful
- 37:38Speaker 1: once it eventually went to court, though that day wouldn't
- 37:41Speaker 1: be without further emotional scarring. In a desperate attempt to
- 37:44Speaker 1: regain access to her money, Julie countered her husband's claims
- 37:48Speaker 1: that she was responsible for the children's deaths by arguing
- 37:52Speaker 1: it was actually him who held culpability. The way she
- 37:56Speaker 1: saw it, Parker had known she was mentally ill and
- 37:59Speaker 1: was clearly a danger to both herself and others. So
- 38:02Speaker 1: in her mind, his decision to leave her alone with
- 38:05Speaker 1: the kids represented nothing less than an act of neglect.
- 38:09Speaker 1: That argument didn't hold any merit as far as the
- 38:11Speaker 1: judge was concerned. No, he saw right through it. His
- 38:15Speaker 1: decision meant the civil case was over and Julie would
- 38:18Speaker 1: not have access to the Schoenecker family funds. The only
- 38:22Speaker 1: thing left to do was wait for the criminal trial
- 38:24Speaker 1: to begin. That ended up happening in April of 2014,
- 38:28Speaker 1: at which point, fully aware Julie was going to attempt
- 38:32Speaker 1: to get off on grounds of insanity, the prosecution decided
- 38:36Speaker 1: not to pursue the death penalty as they felt it
- 38:38Speaker 1: wouldn't go over well in a court when aimed at
- 38:40Speaker 1: a woman who was mentally ill. Instead, they merely focused
- 38:44Speaker 1: on trying to get her prison time, all while on
- 38:47Speaker 1: the other side of the courtroom. It seemed that that
- 38:50Speaker 1: was where the suggestion first came about that she had
- 38:52Speaker 1: killed the kids out of fears they'd inherit her mental illness.
- 38:56Speaker 1: It was thought that that might play well in terms
- 38:59Speaker 1: of making her seem incapable of being held responsible for
- 39:02Speaker 1: her own actions. But that wasn't all, because there was
- 39:05Speaker 1: also the suggestion that killing Calyx and Bo had been
- 39:08Speaker 1: necessary as there was sexual abuse happening to the children.
- 39:12Speaker 1: It was thought by their mother that the best thing
- 39:14Speaker 1: to do would be to end their lives outright. Now,
- 39:17Speaker 1: it should be stated that there was zero evidence to
- 39:20Speaker 1: suggest sexual abuse was going on, and when asked about
- 39:24Speaker 1: who was doing this abusing, Julie would refuse to say.
- 39:28Speaker 1: It appeared far more likely that... the claim was either
- 39:31Speaker 1: another delusion of Julie's increasingly fractured mind, or it was
- 39:35Speaker 1: simply an excuse she was trying to use on the court.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Either way, it didn't do much good, because despite expert
- 39:42Speaker 1: witnesses selected by the defense pushing the fact that her
- 39:45Speaker 1: bipolar disorder meant she wasn't in control of her faculties,
- 39:49Speaker 1: the prosecution countered by calling Julie's week's worth of journal
- 39:53Speaker 1: entries proof enough that the whole thing had been carefully
- 39:55Speaker 1: calculated and premeditated. As they argued, Kalix and Bo had
- 40:00Speaker 1: been killed by their mother as a means of trying
- 40:02Speaker 1: to punish Parker as he was spending too much time
- 40:05Speaker 1: away from home. The evidence they used to sell this
- 40:08Speaker 1: theory was that written on the family day planner on
- 40:11Speaker 1: the day he was due to return from his tour
- 40:13Speaker 1: in the Middle East, Julie had left a note which read, quote, Clearly,
- 40:17Speaker 1: the insinuation was that she wanted her husband to find
- 40:19Speaker 1: the bodies of the children in order to inflict maximum grief.
- 40:30Speaker 1: As if that wasn't chilling enough, it also came to
- 40:33Speaker 1: light at the trial that, after shooting her kids, Julie
- 40:37Speaker 1: had attempted to contort her daughter's face into a smile.
- 40:41Speaker 1: It would probably come as no surprise that that did
- 40:43Speaker 1: little to endear her to the jury, and after less
- 40:46Speaker 1: than two hours of deliberating, the eight men and four
- 40:49Speaker 1: women found her guilty of two counts of first-degree murder
- 40:52Speaker 1: on May 15, 2014. It would later be put by
- 40:56Speaker 1: one juror, we had some discussions on how do you
- 41:00Speaker 1: really know what is going through someone's mind, but we
- 41:03Speaker 1: kept coming back to what the law states constitutes insanity.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Being mentally ill is not the same as being insane.
- 41:11Speaker 1: That's right. Obviously, anyone who executes their own children is
- 41:15Speaker 1: not in their right mind. But in order to not
- 41:18Speaker 1: be held responsible in a court of law, you have
- 41:21Speaker 1: to have not known that what you were doing was wrong.
- 41:24Speaker 1: The fact that Julie made an effort to keep her
- 41:26Speaker 1: gun purchase a secret shows that she knew that what
- 41:29Speaker 1: she was doing wrong. The fact that she had planned
- 41:32Speaker 1: the killings out in advance and kept it a secret
- 41:35Speaker 1: meant she knew it was wrong. With her pleas of
- 41:37Speaker 1: insanity outright disregarded, it meant that when the judge brought
- 41:41Speaker 1: down his sentence, it would be for two concurrent sentences
- 41:44Speaker 1: of life behind bars. With her fate sealed, the only
- 41:48Speaker 1: thing Julie could do was address the court and offer
- 41:51Speaker 1: what she felt was an apology. As she put it
- 41:54Speaker 1: at the time, I apologize. I apologize to everybody in
- 41:58Speaker 1: this courtroom. I take responsibility. I was there. I know
- 42:03Speaker 1: I shot my son and daughter. I don't know why.
- 42:06Speaker 1: I understand that there are people who are affected by
- 42:09Speaker 1: this who may have just read about it in the paper.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Or maybe a child looked at their mommy and said, Mommy,
- 42:15Speaker 1: are you ever going to shoot me? I know this
- 42:17Speaker 1: could happen and I apologize for what happened. What I did. Okay.
- 42:23Speaker 1: After the trial, Parker was able to handle the situation
- 42:27Speaker 1: with as much dignity and grace as is possible because,
- 42:30Speaker 1: while he would take no questions from reporters during the proceedings,
- 42:34Speaker 1: afterwards he would release a statement to the press which
- 42:37Speaker 1: signified both his happiness with the results of the trial
- 42:41Speaker 1: and his desire to keep the memory of his children alive.
- 42:44Speaker 1: In his own words, quote, Today's decision, for many reasons,
- 42:48Speaker 1: gives my family a great sense of relief. As I
- 42:51Speaker 1: have consistently mentioned for the past three years, the most
- 42:55Speaker 1: important thing in all of this is Calyx and Bo,
- 42:57Speaker 1: my lovely children. My smart, beautiful, loved, and missed children.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Giving them a voice has been my priority throughout this process.
- 43:07Speaker 1: As recently as February of 2023, Julie Schoenecker was still
- 43:12Speaker 1: attempting to appeal her conviction and obtain her release. On
- 43:16Speaker 1: this particular occasion, the attempt was blocked by the appellate court,
- 43:20Speaker 1: meaning the now 50-year-old will stay where she is for
- 43:23Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. We can only hope that continues to
- 43:26Speaker 1: be the case as time goes on because, while it's
- 43:29Speaker 1: undeniable there were mental health issues which warped her view
- 43:33Speaker 1: of reality, it was no excuse for the utterly horrific
- 43:36Speaker 1: act that she carried out. there are still some small
- 43:39Speaker 1: positives that can be taken from the whole incident. If
- 43:42Speaker 1: nothing else, it does shine a light on the increased
- 43:45Speaker 1: need for proper care to be given to those who
- 43:47Speaker 1: are struggling with psychological problems. The Schoenecker children are far
- 43:52Speaker 1: from the only two people who have been killed by
- 43:54Speaker 1: someone while in a deep state of depression. And if
- 43:57Speaker 1: things continue in the same vein, they certainly won't be
- 44:00Speaker 1: the last. So with that in mind, we can only
- 44:02Speaker 1: hope the public conversation about mental illness becomes more and
- 44:06Speaker 1: more open as time goes by, and that the stigma
- 44:09Speaker 1: around it continues to decrease because, if more people can
- 44:12Speaker 1: get the correct treatment at a crucial time, preventing them
- 44:16Speaker 1: from turning into full-blown monsters. That would truly be the
- 44:20Speaker 1: best way to honor Calix and Beau's memory. If you're
- 44:25Speaker 1: the victim of domestic abuse, please reach out to someone
- 44:27Speaker 1: for help. Please talk to your local shelter or call
- 44:30Speaker 1: the National Domestic Abuse Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE. That's 1-800-799-7233. Or
- 44:33Speaker 1: you can go to thehotline.org to chat with someone online.
- 44:42Speaker 1: This website is set up so that, at any time,
- 44:44Speaker 1: hitting the escape key twice will take you to a
- 44:47Speaker 1: Google search page. That way, if your abuser is nearby,
- 44:50Speaker 1: you won't get caught seeking help. If you're having feelings
- 44:53Speaker 1: of harming yourself or someone else, or even just need
- 44:55Speaker 1: someone to talk to, please contact your local mental health facility.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Call 911 or call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline by
- 45:02Speaker 1: simply dialing 988 in the United States. They're available 24
- 45:06Speaker 1: hours a day, 7 days a week, and will talk
- 45:09Speaker 1: to you about any mental health issue you may be facing.
- 45:12Speaker 1: If you are a member of the LGBTQ plus community
- 45:15Speaker 1: and suffering from discrimination, depression, or are in need of
- 45:18Speaker 1: any support, please contact the LGBT National Hotline at 1-888-843-4564
- 45:22Speaker 1: or go to lgbthotline.org. Thanks again, and be safe.