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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, July twentieth, I'm
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- 0:31Speaker 1: our countdown of the twenty most impactful players on this
- 0:35Speaker 1: year's Ohio State team. Today we're going from twenty to sixteen.
- 0:38Speaker 1: We started this countdown at forty, so we are starting
- 0:40Speaker 1: to get into the real impact players.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Here.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm joined by a Buckeye Insider's very own impact player,
- 0:46Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman, the team insider at Buckeye Insiders dot com. Tony,
- 0:51Speaker 1: next up, We're going to go to number twenty right now,
- 0:54Speaker 1: and this is a guy that we have been talking
- 0:55Speaker 1: about a lot recently because we keep getting told by
- 0:59Speaker 1: folks who would be in a position know that you
- 1:01Speaker 1: watch this space. This is a guy who is going
- 1:04Speaker 1: to play a bigger role than people think this year.
- 1:06Speaker 1: That is running back Isaiah West.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Yeah, being the number two guy, which we assume he
- 1:12Speaker 2: will be the number two guy. And when you label
- 1:15Speaker 2: him the number two guy, you also gets some like
- 1:18Speaker 2: nudges like, hey, he you know, not that he's going
- 1:20Speaker 2: to be starting, but he's good enough to do something
- 1:23Speaker 2: like that, and he's good enough to get the ball whenever.
- 1:26Speaker 2: And so when you hear stuff like that, yeah, you're
- 1:29Speaker 2: going to take notice. He was good at times last
- 1:33Speaker 2: year in his limited amount of time, and coming off
- 1:36Speaker 2: of injury, he's a he's healthy now and will be
- 1:39Speaker 2: healthy in fall camp. You would, you would hope for
- 1:41Speaker 2: his sake, and there's every reason to believe that he's
- 1:45Speaker 2: going to be just fine. And I know we did
- 1:47Speaker 2: an episode of the Buckeye Weekly podcast where we talked
- 1:50Speaker 2: about expectations for him this year. And as I recall,
- 1:53Speaker 2: you were you were between like seven hundred and fifty
- 1:56Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty and eight hundred yards rushing for
- 1:59Speaker 2: Isaiah West, and I don't think that's outrageous. If he's
- 2:01Speaker 2: the number two guy and he's getting nine to eleven
- 2:04Speaker 2: carries a game.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that he's someone who you have just
- 2:09Speaker 1: they have just scratched the surface of what he could
- 2:11Speaker 1: be during the twenty twenty five football season. And now
- 2:16Speaker 1: if he's healthy going into this year, and all indications
- 2:19Speaker 1: are that he are is, I think there's gonna be
- 2:21Speaker 1: carries there and he has the opportunity to really carve
- 2:24Speaker 1: out a really nice role for himself. Someone else who
- 2:27Speaker 1: was not entirely healthy last year, who I'm expecting to
- 2:30Speaker 1: be healthy this year and have a much better season
- 2:33Speaker 1: as a result is defensive tackle Edrick Houston. He is
- 2:37Speaker 1: number nineteen on this list.
- 2:39Speaker 2: You know, he's the guy that could be much higher
- 2:41Speaker 2: on this list if he has put it puts it
- 2:44Speaker 2: all together, Like if we were to do this list
- 2:47Speaker 2: last year, where is Caden McDonald? Is he around this
- 2:51Speaker 2: range and certainly he was much higher than that by
- 2:53Speaker 2: the end of the season. So it wouldn't be unheard
- 2:55Speaker 2: of for a junior tackle to just explode and be
- 2:59Speaker 2: the kind of guy that is undeniably disruptive. And so, yes,
- 3:04Speaker 2: injuries the position change like he's finally I think in
- 3:07Speaker 2: his comfort zone, he's really in great spirits and that's
- 3:12Speaker 2: that's kind of who he is though. But yeah, it
- 3:15Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me if he's much higher on this list,
- 3:18Speaker 2: but he's going to be part of a rotation as well.
- 3:21Speaker 2: So it's also like, you know, how much higher can
- 3:24Speaker 2: you get when you're splitting time? So I like this one,
- 3:27Speaker 2: and I think everybody's rooting to see that position switch
- 3:31Speaker 2: and just him embracing everything finally come to fruition for
- 3:34Speaker 2: the Ohio State defense.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I think part of the question is how does
- 3:39Speaker 1: he fit together with James Smith because we have not
- 3:41Speaker 1: talked about James Smith on this and a spoiler alert,
- 3:44Speaker 1: it is not because James Smith missed the list of
- 3:45Speaker 1: forty most impactful players. So how do they split up
- 3:49Speaker 1: those reps? Because I think traditionally, in the four down
- 3:54Speaker 1: you know Ohio State one gap defensive line scheme that
- 3:58Speaker 1: you've seen for years, you would say, well, though, guys
- 4:00Speaker 1: are gonna split snaps and so but and so, you're
- 4:02Speaker 1: not gonna have as much impact. I think there's a
- 4:05Speaker 1: real possibility you're going to see both of those guys
- 4:07Speaker 1: on the field at the same time, and they're gonna run.
- 4:09Speaker 1: They're gonna line up a bunch of different ways up
- 4:11Speaker 1: front this year, so that could end up with more
- 4:14Speaker 1: impact coming out of both of those guys, And if
- 4:16Speaker 1: they can play together, that might be the best version
- 4:19Speaker 1: of the Ohio State defensive line James Smith and uh
- 4:23Speaker 1: and uh Edwrick Houston playing together at the same time.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Next up, I'm going to go with number eighteen and
- 4:32Speaker 1: this is linebacker Christian Allegro, and I had a heck
- 4:36Speaker 1: of a time figuring out where to put him on
- 4:38Speaker 1: this list because I like Christian Allegro a lot. I think,
- 4:42Speaker 1: you know, you go back to the postgame coverage of
- 4:44Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Ohio State game last year when Christian Alego
- 4:47Speaker 1: was playing for Wisconsin, and it was like, and that
- 4:50Speaker 1: would be a player that I bet Ohio State would
- 4:52Speaker 1: love to have. And now Ohio State has him, and
- 4:55Speaker 1: with Sunny Styles gone, with Rvel Reese gone, there are
- 4:59Speaker 1: certainly snaps available and it feels like he's someone who
- 5:02Speaker 1: might be able to do some really interesting and creative
- 5:05Speaker 1: things with the opportunity he gets this year.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like, if you were to
- 5:11Speaker 2: like layout, who is the most likely player to start
- 5:15Speaker 2: alongside Peyton Pierce at linebacker. I think for me it's
- 5:20Speaker 2: it's gonna be Christian Legro because he was there all
- 5:23Speaker 2: spring long. Now he tj Alford rotated and we know
- 5:28Speaker 2: Riley Penny John wasn't out there. But also there were
- 5:30Speaker 2: times when all three of tj Alford and Christian Legro
- 5:34Speaker 2: and Peyton Pierce were out there where Garo Stover was
- 5:37Speaker 2: in for Peyton Peters, Like they had three linebackers out there,
- 5:41Speaker 2: and he's the guy that can be that third linebacker.
- 5:43Speaker 2: He can be that second linebacker. He can play on
- 5:46Speaker 2: the line. He did it at Wisconsin, like when I
- 5:50Speaker 2: was I wrote a linebacker's spring camp preview piece at
- 5:56Speaker 2: Buckeynsenters dot com and it's like he can do all
- 6:01Speaker 2: of the things. He can play the positions that Rvel
- 6:04Speaker 2: rees played last year. But I'm careful not to say
- 6:08Speaker 2: he can do what r vel Reese did last year.
- 6:10Speaker 2: These we're talking two different things. He can play inside linebacker,
- 6:15Speaker 2: he can play on the edge as the sam because
- 6:16Speaker 2: he did that at Wisconsin. There's proof of concept there
- 6:20Speaker 2: and he was one of the three or four top
- 6:23Speaker 2: tacklers last year. I think he led them and led
- 6:25Speaker 2: Wisconsin in sackson tackles for loss or the second second
- 6:29Speaker 2: in those categories for them last year. Tough, hard nos
- 6:34Speaker 2: veteran players. So I think if he's eighteen, look we're
- 6:39Speaker 2: looking for, you know, there's twenty two starters. If he's
- 6:42Speaker 2: one of the eighteen most impactful players, I think that
- 6:46Speaker 2: would be a pretty good thing for Ohio State.
- 6:50Speaker 1: And number seventeen another guy who is obviously certainly going
- 6:53Speaker 1: to start this year and someone who was I think
- 6:57Speaker 1: surprisingly good last year by really needs to take a
- 7:01Speaker 1: big step forward again this year to shore up the
- 7:04Speaker 1: offensive line, and that's right tackle Philip Daniels. We talked
- 7:07Speaker 1: about him as potentially a guy who might move to
- 7:11Speaker 1: right guard this spring. That didn't happen. It feels like
- 7:14Speaker 1: you can probably pretty confidently pencil him in at right
- 7:16Speaker 1: tackle again this year. But he was way ahead of
- 7:20Speaker 1: where I expected him to be last year. If he
- 7:22Speaker 1: could be ahead of where every expectations are this year,
- 7:26Speaker 1: that would be a very big deal for Ohio State.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody loves his physicality and the way he plays.
- 7:32Speaker 2: He is tremendous to talk to. He's confident but not cocky,
- 7:37Speaker 2: but a little cocky, and it's just he tells you
- 7:41Speaker 2: how he sees it, and he doesn't apologize for it.
- 7:44Speaker 2: He came to Ohio State last year fully intending to start.
- 7:48Speaker 2: We were pointing at him as and I say we
- 7:50Speaker 2: all of us were pointing, the entire media, the Buckeye fans,
- 7:53Speaker 2: whatever pointing at him. Is like maybe a guy that
- 7:56Speaker 2: starts in twenty twenty six. But he satthanonian went down
- 8:01Speaker 2: on the bench, and he took over and him and
- 8:03Speaker 2: Austin Sereveld obviously held the tackle spots. And this year,
- 8:07Speaker 2: I think somebody posted on the message board a buckeysiders
- 8:11Speaker 2: dot com, like one of the draft knicks thinks that
- 8:13Speaker 2: Philip Dangels be the top rated guy on the High
- 8:16Speaker 2: of State offensive line. And we'll see, like he love
- 8:22Speaker 2: the way, you love how hard he plays. Sometimes it's
- 8:25Speaker 2: a little too hard, but you'll you'll take that as
- 8:28Speaker 2: long as it doesn't you know, cost you a drive
- 8:31Speaker 2: or something like that. But yeah, I think he's a
- 8:33Speaker 2: guy that maybe got a little bit too much grief
- 8:37Speaker 2: last year. And I'm sure he heard some of that.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, the right side of the offensive line
- 8:43Speaker 1: last year he did not catch the most strays there.
- 8:46Speaker 1: That was Tager Shabol the right guard from last year,
- 8:49Speaker 1: and Tagrin now is at Kentucky. He transferred out. But
- 8:52Speaker 1: a lot of times when you saw the issues, it was,
- 8:55Speaker 1: you know, guys stunts between the right guard and right tackle,
- 8:58Speaker 1: and that did not fall on one person or another,
- 9:02Speaker 1: you would assume. And we are right now sort of
- 9:05Speaker 1: projecting Austin Siravelda as your right guard this year. He
- 9:09Speaker 1: and Philip Daniels on the right side of that offensive line.
- 9:12Speaker 1: You have taken these sliders for physicality and nastiness and
- 9:15Speaker 1: pushed them all the way to the top. That is
- 9:17Speaker 1: that is going to be a that is not going
- 9:20Speaker 1: to be a finesse right side of the offensive line
- 9:22Speaker 1: if those two guys are over there next to each other.
- 9:25Speaker 1: So yeah, that's going to be a real, real, potentially
- 9:30Speaker 1: consequential You know, how much has he improved this year?
- 9:34Speaker 1: Kind of question? There one more to do on today's show,
- 9:37Speaker 1: and that is number sixteen. This is someone who coming
- 9:41Speaker 1: out of the portal, I think you and I were
- 9:43Speaker 1: both very very high on this player. And there were
- 9:46Speaker 1: certainly some questions about Terry Moore, the transfer safety out
- 9:49Speaker 1: of Duke. He had missed all of last season after
- 9:51Speaker 1: suffering a knee injury in the Bowl game the previous year,
- 9:54Speaker 1: and he started spring a little bit slowly as they
- 9:57Speaker 1: were sort of working him back into things. But you know,
- 10:00Speaker 1: by the end of the spring, I kind of found
- 10:02Speaker 1: myself looking at him and going, yeah, I think they
- 10:05Speaker 1: got what they were looking for there in the portal.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because he was somebody that
- 10:10Speaker 2: during the first half of spring, Leroy Roker was with
- 10:14Speaker 2: the ones ahead of him. Second half of spring, it
- 10:16Speaker 2: was Terry Moore. And whether that's that was by plan
- 10:19Speaker 2: or that was by progression, you got to see more
- 10:22Speaker 2: of I'm and he's a guy that was a could
- 10:26Speaker 2: cover a lot of ground four or five interceptions, was
- 10:30Speaker 2: a know all acc type of player at Duke. And
- 10:35Speaker 2: I'm thinking now when we're talking about the three safeties
- 10:38Speaker 2: that they have, Jalen McLain and Earl Little are probably
- 10:43Speaker 2: going to be your more active, disruptor types and in
- 10:47Speaker 2: the box type of stuff. So then you've just got
- 10:49Speaker 2: the guy at the back end that you trust implicitly,
- 10:52Speaker 2: and Jalen McLain was great at that last year kind
- 10:55Speaker 2: of the Jordan Fuller don't let anything get beyond you
- 10:57Speaker 2: make all of your tackles, and if you come up
- 10:59Speaker 2: with some of thereceptions, great, but just be that last
- 11:02Speaker 2: line of defense. And I'm thinking maybe that's that's kind
- 11:05Speaker 2: of what he's going to be, this calming influence back
- 11:07Speaker 2: there while all of chaos is happening in front of him.
- 11:12Speaker 2: He's going to be the guy who calms everything down
- 11:14Speaker 2: if something happens, you know, to get to him.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Well, you kind of have that smart, veteran guy on
- 11:20Speaker 1: the back end that is just such a valuable piece.
- 11:23Speaker 1: And he is the lowest of the three safeties on
- 11:26Speaker 1: this list. We have not talked about Earl Little or
- 11:29Speaker 1: Jalen McClain yet, and you know, we're still we're relatively
- 11:32Speaker 1: high at this point. That was number sixteen on the list,
- 11:35Speaker 1: and you've got a couple other guys who I think,
- 11:37Speaker 1: as you said, I think may draw more of the attention,
- 11:42Speaker 1: may draw more of the highlight reel plays or the
- 11:45Speaker 1: stat sheet plays, but I do I just continue to
- 11:48Speaker 1: think Terry Moore is going to be a real difference
- 11:51Speaker 1: maker on the back end, even if it is just
- 11:54Speaker 1: the plays that you don't see the opponent make, because
- 11:56Speaker 1: he's back there to just sort of As you said,
- 11:58Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller is one of those names that we throw out,
- 12:01Speaker 1: and that is a name that we throw out with
- 12:03Speaker 1: tremendous respect after seeing the difference that he made on
- 12:06Speaker 1: the back end of that Ohio State defense as opposed
- 12:09Speaker 1: to some of the years where they haven't had that
- 12:10Speaker 1: kind of guy. And you've seen what that can look like.
- 12:13Speaker 1: So if you have that kind of a racer on
- 12:15Speaker 1: the back end of the defense, that makes a huge difference.
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