Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Feminists Around the World: Tarcila Rivera Zea
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to stephone
- 0:07Speaker 1: never told you ppprecsive of iHeart Radio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: And welcome to another feminist around the world. I got
- 0:21Speaker 2: the name straight this time. Are you proud of me?
- 0:24Speaker 2: Because I usually botch it up two or three times
- 0:26Speaker 2: before we even start, But you know from Emberton like,
- 0:30Speaker 2: I'm on a roll and just keep going with it
- 0:32Speaker 2: that this is how I am as a professional. So
- 0:34Speaker 2: good even though to kind of stutter into this one,
- 0:37Speaker 2: it's fine. But for today's a feminist around the world.
- 0:40Speaker 2: We are talking about indigenous activists, Tasila, Riviera Zeya. And again,
- 0:45Speaker 2: as we always talk about when we talk about people
- 0:48Speaker 2: we don't hear much about or from other countries, bear
- 0:51Speaker 2: with us on the pronunciations. We try our damnedest to
- 0:54Speaker 2: make sure that we get the pronunciation correct. But yes
- 0:57Speaker 2: we are still I'm an American English speaker, so we
- 1:03Speaker 2: suck at accents. I think that's just just an overall
- 1:09Speaker 2: you know capy ont to this.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Soaiah is a Peruvian Quechua activist who has dedicated her
- 1:16Speaker 2: life for her indigenous community and for the Amazonian people
- 1:19Speaker 2: of Peru. She was born in San Francisco de Pujas
- 1:22Speaker 2: Vodkas human atje Cuco and has strived to work for
- 1:25Speaker 2: her indigenous community and for other indigenous communities around the
- 1:29Speaker 2: world and in her country. In an interview with DVV International,
- 1:33Speaker 2: she talks about her childhood and growing up as an
- 1:35Speaker 2: indigenous woman. She says, I am Quichua speaking born in
- 1:39Speaker 2: the community of San Francisco de Pujas vodkas human Ajacuco.
- 1:43Speaker 2: My parents died there. They died monolingual and I'm part
- 1:46Speaker 2: of a typical family from the community that in the
- 1:49Speaker 2: post harvest stage, came to the coast to work on
- 1:52Speaker 2: the haciendas to take back some resources for candles, matches,
- 1:55Speaker 2: sugar or salt. It is a community that is still
- 1:58Speaker 2: on the map and an extreme pop I was monolingualed
- 2:01Speaker 2: and studied in public schools, which was characterized by having
- 2:04Speaker 2: its back turn to the knees and culture of our peoples.
- 2:07Speaker 2: At the age of ten, I migrated to Lima, where
- 2:10Speaker 2: I learned a Spanish in completed primary and secondary education,
- 2:13Speaker 2: specifically commercial secondary school. I combined study with work as
- 2:17Speaker 2: a domestic servant. I had a tremendous fixation on wanting
- 2:20Speaker 2: to study. I had various experiences, some more positive, like
- 2:24Speaker 2: respect for my people and identity. I remember one man
- 2:27Speaker 2: from Belgium and he treated me rather more like a folklore. Experience.
- 2:31Speaker 2: From others, I received discriminatory treatment. One of them wanted
- 2:34Speaker 2: me to study at night because that was when domestic
- 2:37Speaker 2: worker studies, and I didn't want to because it was
- 2:39Speaker 2: common knowledge that teaching was not done well at night.
- 2:43Speaker 2: But the people who hired me told me, why do that.
- 2:46Speaker 2: You are a little Indian or Indiasita, and you will
- 2:48Speaker 2: always be one. Unfortunately, our society is exclusionary, racist and prejudiced.
- 2:53Speaker 1: And she has been fighting for justice and inclusion most
- 2:56Speaker 1: of her life. She talked more about some of the
- 2:58Speaker 1: hardship and discrimination she had to deal with while growing
- 3:01Speaker 1: up and how she persevered, saying, when I was in
- 3:04Speaker 1: high school, I was shy. I talked little so that
- 3:07Speaker 1: they would not make fun of my k TWA accents.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I also had a long braid, and they made fun
- 3:11Speaker 1: of me because of my Andean origin. And even so
- 3:14Speaker 1: I was appointed head girl of the school. I think
- 3:17Speaker 1: it was because I always rebelled against injustice. I was
- 3:20Speaker 1: also a member of the school newspaper, and I became
- 3:23Speaker 1: part of the Association of School Journalists from different public
- 3:26Speaker 1: and private schools, and her work for justice has continued
- 3:29Speaker 1: since then. In the seventies, Rivera Zeia worked in the
- 3:33Speaker 1: Ministry of Culture of Peru and would eventually go on
- 3:35Speaker 1: to work as a journalist for the Pueblo Indio magazine
- 3:38Speaker 1: of the Indian Council of South America CISA. It was
- 3:42Speaker 1: during this time she was able to collect stories and
- 3:44Speaker 1: testimonies of the Indigenous women who were sexually assaulted and
- 3:48Speaker 1: abused during armed conflicts, and because of her amazing works,
- 3:52Speaker 1: she was invited to study at the Institute of Social
- 3:54Speaker 1: Studies in the Hague in the International Center of Education
- 3:57Speaker 1: of Human Rights in Canada.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah thought fiercely for the rights and safety of Indigenous
- 4:02Speaker 2: women and has not stopped, she told DVV International when
- 4:06Speaker 2: asked about the indigenous community. Most of the women who
- 4:09Speaker 2: left my community worked as domestic servants, many of whom
- 4:12Speaker 2: have been able to study and become professionals. The important
- 4:15Speaker 2: things for us who live in these communities are the
- 4:17Speaker 2: opportunities to be able to exercise the right to a
- 4:20Speaker 2: good education. I am convinced that all Indian and Amazonian
- 4:23Speaker 2: Indigenous women can make great contributions to society, contribute to
- 4:27Speaker 2: economic development, to the solution of the problems that our
- 4:30Speaker 2: country has. For that to happen, we must ensure conditions
- 4:34Speaker 2: so that we can exercise our rights. The right to
- 4:36Speaker 2: an education that recognizes our languages and cultures and an
- 4:40Speaker 2: intercultural education has always been my banner of struggle and aspirations.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Something is moving, but slowly.
- 4:46Speaker 1: And she has parlayed what she had studied as what
- 4:49Speaker 1: she saw as a need for her community into a
- 4:51Speaker 1: nonprofit she founded with Juanita del Rossol in nineteen eighty
- 4:54Speaker 1: six called cheer Apoc. She told you andwomen dot org.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Cheer POC, the nonprofit I found together with one ney
- 5:00Speaker 1: To del Rosal, was born in nineteen eighty six to
- 5:03Speaker 1: support the cultural reaffirmation of Indigenous peoples with a strong
- 5:07Speaker 1: human rights approach, because I could not talk about culture
- 5:10Speaker 1: without talking about its people, and its people were being discriminated, attacked,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and killed. Indigenous women not only need the same opportunities
- 5:18Speaker 1: as everyone else, they need specific opportunities to affirm their
- 5:21Speaker 1: identity and become aware of their own rights. With the
- 5:24Speaker 1: onslaught of climate change, unexpected and frequent droughts, floods and
- 5:28Speaker 1: severe weather conditions are affecting the production of crops and
- 5:31Speaker 1: food security of Indigenous peoples. Indigenous women, not unlike other
- 5:36Speaker 1: rural women, are often farmers and in charge of feeding
- 5:39Speaker 1: their families. Their livelihood and lives are at stake. As
- 5:43Speaker 1: part of the Cheerpock programs, we try to ensure that
- 5:46Speaker 1: Indigenous women can cope with climate change sustainably, for example,
- 5:50Speaker 1: by using organic insecticides, natural fertilizers, and resilient seeds, and
- 5:55Speaker 1: by helping them develop a nutrient filled diet with the
- 5:57Speaker 1: food that they can access.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Conversation reminds me of the conversation we had with the
- 6:02Speaker 2: other conversations with different Indigenous activists and how important it
- 6:06Speaker 2: is to kind of go back to the foods of
- 6:09Speaker 2: the Indigenous people and how it is so important and
- 6:12Speaker 2: we don't feel like we talk about it enough. I mean,
- 6:14Speaker 2: they talk about it, but the only time I even
- 6:17Speaker 2: hear about it is when we hear interviews like this
- 6:20Speaker 2: from Indigenous women who come from that culture and community
- 6:23Speaker 2: and understand sustainable food and resources. That's just gonna have
- 6:29Speaker 2: to be a one giant episode, I'm sure, and this
- 6:31Speaker 2: is gonna talk about how Indigenous people could save us
- 6:34Speaker 2: if we would only listen. But you know whatever. Anyway,
- 6:40Speaker 2: Along with Chirpak Rivera Zeia also founded the Continental Link
- 6:43Speaker 2: of Indigenous Women of Americas and the International Form of
- 6:46Speaker 2: Indigenous Women, which both promote encouraging and empowering Indigenous women
- 6:50Speaker 2: around the world to become politically involved again all around
- 6:54Speaker 2: the world, and she's still very active today, being involved
- 6:57Speaker 2: with forums all over the world, including Nairobi, Cairo, and Beijing.
- 7:02Speaker 2: She's the president of the International Indigenous Women's Forum as
- 7:05Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. In twenty ten, she was awarded
- 7:08Speaker 2: the Order of Merit for Women, and in twenty eleven
- 7:11Speaker 2: she was given the Visionary Award of the Ford Foundation.
- 7:14Speaker 2: From twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, she was elected and
- 7:17Speaker 2: served as an Expert member of the United Nations Permanent
- 7:20Speaker 2: Forum on Indigenous Issues and BTDUBS. I believe she's still
- 7:24Speaker 2: working closely with the UN, especially spreading the awareness and
- 7:28Speaker 2: the needs of Indigenous women and rights. She recently spoke
- 7:30Speaker 2: with azmth the World of Foundation in twenty twenty three
- 7:33Speaker 2: about the importance of advocating for Indigenous women and fighting
- 7:37Speaker 2: against the violence and abuse against indigenous women, and I
- 7:41Speaker 2: think she talks about how COVID has affected their campaign
- 7:45Speaker 2: as well. Again, this was just recent. You can check
- 7:47Speaker 2: out their series called Connecting the Dots with an interview
- 7:50Speaker 2: with her specifically, and she's speaking English. I'm always impressed
- 7:54Speaker 2: when I'm like, oh my god, how many languages can
- 7:56Speaker 2: you speak? That's amazing, And then I'm like, trying to
- 8:00Speaker 2: still learn Korean. That's fine, that's fine, I'm fine. But yeah,
- 8:03Speaker 2: the work that she's done is obviously not anywhere near
- 8:06Speaker 2: over and she is continually traveling and speaking for the
- 8:10Speaker 2: rights and the people of our community as well as
- 8:13Speaker 2: the indigenous women all around the world.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Right, which means again I'm sure we will be revisiting
- 8:19Speaker 1: her in the future. But as always, listeners, if you
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