Latest / Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash / #264 The Birds & The Bees
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's a little bit of movement upstairs. Someone's having sex upstairs.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Business time.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's business.
- 0:08Speaker 1: We don't know what is upstairs.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's business time.
- 0:12Speaker 1: We have to just give a warning.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, it's business time.
- 0:16Speaker 1: To the listeners because Vic is not here.
- 0:18Speaker 2: So anything could happen. Up late with Maddie and Ash.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Who knows what we'll talk about.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Take your pants off.
- 0:24Speaker 1: We're currently sitting in the studio naked.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Pour yourself a cup of tea.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Welcome back to Two Doting Dads. I am Matty J.
- 0:46Speaker 2: And I'm Ash.
- 0:47Speaker 1: And this is a podcast all about parenting. It is
- 0:49Speaker 1: the good, it is the bad.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And the relatable.
- 0:51Speaker 1: And if you come for advice, definitely not in this episode.
- 0:55Speaker 2: No.
- 0:55Speaker 3: No.
- 0:56Speaker 2: This is a housekeeping episode. So there could be a
- 0:58Speaker 2: nugget or two, but not from us. Not from us.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Ash, I've got something that you're going to love right here.
- 1:04Speaker 1: This was sent in on the Facebook group, and there
- 1:06Speaker 1: is a new type of bedding available that is right
- 1:11Speaker 1: up your alley.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. What have we got?
- 1:14Speaker 1: Your family, I think, would be the king and queens
- 1:17Speaker 1: of this game. Uno bed sheets from Spotlight.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Very good.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Yeah. What's the RRP on that?
- 1:27Speaker 2: That's an ad, this one.
- 1:28Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very reasonable.
- 1:30Speaker 2: If it's from Spotlight, one of my favorite stores, would
- 1:33Speaker 2: be very reasonable. And I think, look, we had a
- 1:36Speaker 2: bit of a meltdown over Uno last night. So it's
- 1:39Speaker 2: a bit raw. I mean, I cried myself to sleep.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Who lost?
- 1:42Speaker 2: Who won? April came barnstorming home last game. We did
- 1:47Speaker 2: double points. And Oscar had already just had a meltdown
- 1:50Speaker 2: from losing game two. And I was like, please, win
- 1:53Speaker 2: game one. Let him win game three, please. And then
- 1:56Speaker 2: April just smoked everyone. Just walked around the house like.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And what?
- 2:01Speaker 1: What are you going to do about it?
- 2:02Speaker 2: The royal rules. Punching people. But tonight's a new, it's
- 2:07Speaker 2: a fresh day for Uno.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Whoever wins gets the Uno bed sheets.
- 2:11Speaker 2: I can't give it to one and not the other.
- 2:13Speaker 2: You know the rules.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Didn't you put a photo up about new bed sheets
- 2:16Speaker 1: at your place? And you were sending it in a
- 2:19Speaker 1: group chat with April and she was like, no fucking chance, bro.
- 2:23Speaker 1: What was it? What kind of bed sheets was it?
- 2:25Speaker 2: A Red Bull one.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Red Bull.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Red Bull Racing. I was like, I sent a message
- 2:30Speaker 2: to her saying, can we get these? And she was like,
- 2:32Speaker 2: absolutely not. And I was like, do you hate me?
- 2:34Speaker 1: Why do you hate me? I can't do anything.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I mean, we couldn't have the Uno ones on ours,
- 2:39Speaker 2: but the kids love that.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Ash, this is... This podcast is getting very political.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Yeah, where did this come from?
- 2:47Speaker 1: Okay, bear with me here. This is not for you.
- 2:49Speaker 1: This is for the listener. Okay.
- 2:51Speaker 2: So you take five.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Oh, thank God. Okay, there is encouragement right now, encouragement
- 2:58Speaker 1: for parents to share their experience of early parenthood and
- 3:03Speaker 1: to give more info on what they need in terms
- 3:06Speaker 1: of more support. So as part of the Albanese Labor
- 3:09Speaker 1: Government's new Senate Select Committee on Women's Health, they do
- 3:13Speaker 1: an inquiry to look at how Australia can improve women's
- 3:16Speaker 1: health care with a focus on pregnancy, postpartum care, maternal
- 3:20Speaker 1: mental health. And so people, like experts, give their ideas
- 3:24Speaker 1: on like what do you need And then parents be like, hey, well,
- 3:27Speaker 1: this is what I needed and I didn't have it.
- 3:29Speaker 1: So maybe you guys can look at it and make
- 3:31Speaker 1: it available afterwards.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Gotcha. So they're crowdsourcing their work.
- 3:35Speaker 1: They're crowdsourcing. Well, it's like a yearly review.
- 3:39Speaker 2: You don't just want the expert. You want people with
- 3:40Speaker 2: the experience.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 2: To give what they need.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Okay.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Show notes. I'm guessing there's more information.
- 3:45Speaker 1: I'm going to put the link. Okay. You guessed it
- 3:47Speaker 1: in the show notes. If there was one thing that
- 3:49Speaker 1: you needed more of yourself.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Show notes. Definitely need more of those.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I'll submit that.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 3:56Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be very confused. You need one thing.
- 3:59Speaker 1: What do you want more of?
- 4:00Speaker 2: Time.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yes, also a very good suggestion.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Right up there with the show notes.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Oh, that's better than the show notes. What did I
- 4:10Speaker 2: really need? Oh, where does it end? I don't know.
- 4:15Speaker 2: It's probably an April question. What did she really need?
- 4:17Speaker 1: What did you need? I want what you needed. You
- 4:20Speaker 1: have one thing, one thing only. Bit of a piece
- 4:22Speaker 1: of quiet? I don't know.
- 4:31Speaker 2: I feel like I'm on the spot. What did you need?
- 4:33Speaker 1: I want more of those towels from the hospital.
- 4:36Speaker 2: From the hospital. That's what I want too.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And I want to get more swaddles. More towels and
- 4:45Speaker 1: I think, okay, do you know what? This is what
- 4:47Speaker 1: I want, all right? When you're taking your kid to
- 4:50Speaker 1: get vaccinated, I just want the GP. They do great work.
- 4:53Speaker 1: I want the GP to be on time. That's what
- 4:56Speaker 1: I want. That's what would make life easier.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Never going to happen. Sorry, too hard.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I just think even when I've made an appointment first
- 5:05Speaker 1: thing in the morning, because obviously at the end of
- 5:07Speaker 1: the day, Ash, they're running late over time, lots of
- 5:09Speaker 1: many different appointments. It's easy to happen. But then what's
- 5:13Speaker 1: your excuse when you've got an eight o'clock appointment or
- 5:15Speaker 1: nine o'clock appointment and you've just opened up? How are
- 5:17Speaker 1: you late then?
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they just set the standard. I think
- 5:21Speaker 2: parents should get free coffee from McDonald's as soon as
- 5:25Speaker 2: they give birth. Or something similar, like a similar restaurant.
- 5:29Speaker 2: I don't know. I just threw McDonald's out there as
- 5:31Speaker 2: an example. Like a pension card.
- 5:34Speaker 1: For parents.
- 5:35Speaker 2: A parent's card for coffee. Write it down, Vic.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Vic's not here.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Dammit. We have the best ideas when you're not here.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Vic will be like, what did I miss? We're like, oh,
- 5:44Speaker 1: we can't remember?
- 5:45Speaker 2: She's going to edit this.
- 5:45Speaker 1: She'll hear it.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I think, yeah, like a parent coffee card.
- 5:49Speaker 1: A parent card. And it's applicable at any cafe.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Or just an array of discounts at different places. A
- 5:57Speaker 2: coupon book. A parent's coupon book.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Very good.
- 6:00Speaker 2: From the government. It'd be like, one free vote for Labor.
- 6:04Speaker 1: So when you get your pregnancy parent pack, you give
- 6:07Speaker 1: them birth and they give you like a little bag,
- 6:09Speaker 1: a little satchel bag. And in that, like, oh, don't
- 6:11Speaker 1: lose the card, the parent card, because it's free coffee.
- 6:13Speaker 4: Yes.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Or even discounted coffee, $ 2 coffees.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Come on. Don't wind it back.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Okay, free.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Put it back on small business.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Yeah, let's really run them into the ground.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Put it back into the petrol stations.
- 6:25Speaker 5: Yes.
- 6:26Speaker 1: The petrol stations have to give free coffee.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Yep. If you've got a baby seat, like a baby
- 6:31Speaker 2: seat detector, we're getting way too in. Don't do that
- 6:34Speaker 2: with your ear. Sorry. For those listening, Matt can do
- 6:38Speaker 2: this thing with his ear where he kind of claps
- 6:39Speaker 2: with his eardrum.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Moving right along.
- 6:43Speaker 2: It's like April with her big toe clicks. It's such
- 6:45Speaker 2: an ick. I can hear it from the lounge room.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Speaking of April.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Speaking of. Let's give April a call. She might be asleep.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Let's try it. Because she's had a big couple of days.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Big. Living the dream, April. She's like, she'd be asleep
- 6:59Speaker 2: in front of reality TV.
- 7:01Speaker 1: What would she be watching right now? Housewives?
- 7:04Speaker 2: Nah, I reckon. Let's give her a quick call. Find
- 7:06Speaker 2: out what's going on in the touch football world.
- 7:10Speaker 1: First game this week?
- 7:11Speaker 2: Second it was. Second.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Did they win the first game?
- 7:14Speaker 2: Wooden spoon.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Okay. She's definitely asleep. Right now she's like, who the
- 7:18Speaker 1: fuck is calling me?
- 7:19Speaker 2: Hello? You're awake. Just.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Is that the ageless athlete? Oh, it is.
- 7:28Speaker 2: We are calling today to see how you're going with
- 7:31Speaker 2: touch football. Like I know, but Matt is curious how
- 7:36Speaker 2: the ageless athletes are going.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Your boots look good.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Look, I look good and that's where it stops. Oh,
- 7:45Speaker 2: don't be so hard on yourself. I've seen you with
- 7:48Speaker 2: balls in your hand.
- 7:51Speaker 5: Nice. Yeah, no, it's good fun. But can I just
- 7:55Speaker 5: say both games so far have been against 15-, 16-year-old
- 8:01Speaker 5: high school girls.
- 8:02Speaker 1: What? So they're out to, like, what's the saying?
- 8:06Speaker 2: Yeah. They want glory. They want glory.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Have you entered the wrong competition? Why are they so young?
- 8:10Speaker 1: They are.
- 8:13Speaker 5: But, no, apparently, like, it's mixed women's all ages. But
- 8:16Speaker 5: there is a team called Bad Mums. So there's another
- 8:19Speaker 5: mums group out there. We just haven't played them yet.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Oh, Bad Mums.
- 8:23Speaker 2: They're really teen mums.
- 8:24Speaker 1: They sound naughty.
- 8:25Speaker 2: They're really teen mums.
- 8:27Speaker 4: They're like, we're 16 and got three kids each.
- 8:31Speaker 2: But, no, it's a lot of fun.
- 8:33Speaker 6: It is.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it. What was the score of
- 8:35Speaker 2: the game just gone? I know you don't like to
- 8:37Speaker 2: talk about it because it was a bit of a trollopin'..
- 8:41Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about it.
- 8:42Speaker 5: Okay.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Okay. Did you, have you scored a try yet?
- 8:44Speaker 2: No.
- 8:44Speaker 5: Okay.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I saw, I did see, and credit to you, April,
- 8:48Speaker 2: I did see first game. There was, Zach was down there.
- 8:51Speaker 2: He took a video. Zach is a professional coach.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Is he there scouting? What's he up to?
- 8:56Speaker 2: No, he just wanted to see the girls run around
- 8:58Speaker 2: because his wife's on the team.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Ah, cute.
- 9:00Speaker 2: And there was a, there is a little video of
- 9:01Speaker 2: April scooting the ball and running across field. So yeah,
- 9:04Speaker 2: I'm pretty impressed. And I'm proud. And I'm proud. I'm
- 9:09Speaker 2: very proud.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I'm also very proud.
- 9:11Speaker 2: We have one athlete in the family.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Yes.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Her name is April. Mum lead.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Good luck.
- 9:18Speaker 5: Oscar wants to be our coach.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Put him on the field.
- 9:21Speaker 2: What have we got? Mixed ages or mixed genders?
- 9:25Speaker 5: He wanted to like so badly be subbed in on
- 9:28Speaker 5: Monday night.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Bless him. So when do you come up against the
- 9:32Speaker 2: other mum team? Because maybe we want to rally get
- 9:35Speaker 2: behind you a little bit here.
- 9:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll have to let you know. We don't really
- 9:39Speaker 5: find out. Like there's not a draw until like a
- 9:41Speaker 5: few days before.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:42Speaker 1: All right.
- 9:42Speaker 2: What we'll do is we'll touch base with you again
- 9:45Speaker 2: when I'm at home because we live together and we'll
- 9:48Speaker 2: keep tabs on it. We want to make sure we
- 9:50Speaker 2: document your first win.
- 9:52Speaker 3: All right.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Keep up the great work.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Okay. Bye-bye.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Bye.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Bye.
- 9:56Speaker 1: What was the score? 7-0.
- 9:57Speaker 5: Oh!
- 10:01Speaker 2: In rugby league terms is nearly 60. It's like what?
- 10:05Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't be first in the bloody teenagers.
- 10:08Speaker 1: I know.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I don't think it's very fair.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Ash, I've got something which you may not know this.
- 10:15Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we talked about Poppy. She's
- 10:18Speaker 1: almost turning one. That went fast. Didn't it just? I
- 10:23Speaker 1: believe she had conjunctivitis.
- 10:25Speaker 2: That's right.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Went to the pharmacy. Guy said, we don't do eye
- 10:28Speaker 1: drops for infants. Got to be two years old. Can
- 10:31Speaker 1: give you a little wipey thing.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Like a wipe?
- 10:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Okay. Here's a wipe.
- 10:35Speaker 1: It was like a pH balance wipe or it had
- 10:38Speaker 1: some kind of fancy name where it wasn't just any
- 10:40Speaker 1: old wipe.
- 10:41Speaker 2: To like help clear the gunk.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Clear the gunk.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Because it is.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Horrible.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Horrible. Waking up.
- 10:47Speaker 1: And they're just like glued shut.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Even like as an adult, if it happens, you're like,
- 10:51Speaker 2: oh my God, I'm blind. I can imagine Poppy waking up.
- 10:54Speaker 2: He doesn't know any different.
- 10:55Speaker 1: So confused.
- 10:56Speaker 2: So she'd be like, is it dark or is it
- 10:58Speaker 2: my blood?
- 10:59Speaker 1: What the fuck is going on?
- 11:01Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden she's like, oh my God,
- 11:03Speaker 2: the light. And I just feel it.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Peel them open in the shower. Awful stuff. But someone
- 11:08Speaker 1: in the Facebook group, Facebook's going off. And he says...
- 11:13Speaker 1: We found when our little ones had it, talking about conjunctivitis,
- 11:17Speaker 1: it was tit liquid boob milk, which does the trick.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Squirt it straight on there, fix within a day or two,
- 11:25Speaker 1: tit liquid for the win when it's available for you.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Tit liquid?
- 11:29Speaker 1: Tit liquid.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Okay. Scientific name for that would be breast milk.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Tit liquid.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Just a straight up nip lick.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So there you go. Obviously difficult for us.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Great for chili in the eyes too.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Is it tit liquid?
- 11:43Speaker 2: Tit liquid. Any sort of utter liquid.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Cum is also.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Cum's great. I doused myself in oat milk when I
- 11:50Speaker 2: got chilli in my eye. I was long life milk.
- 11:53Speaker 2: I had April going back and forth to the pantry.
- 11:55Speaker 2: I was like, give me another bottle of that.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Surely oat milk's not doing nothing.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Nah. It's high in calories.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Brent. Who sends it in?
- 12:06Speaker 2: I've got another thing here. What's the question? actually, from
- 12:10Speaker 2: a dota in the Facebook group. Dimity. Thank you, Dimity.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Hi, Dimity.
- 12:14Speaker 2: For those of you who are confused, housekeeping is all
- 12:16Speaker 2: about you guys, so that's why we're reading from people. So, Dimity,
- 12:20Speaker 2: how long did you spend in the hospital after having
- 12:23Speaker 2: a baby? I had my son in a public rural hospital.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Oh, God, good luck.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Did a vet deliver it, did they?
- 12:31Speaker 1: Take it out. Take it out. We love rural.
- 12:33Speaker 2: We love rural doctors. I had my son in a
- 12:36Speaker 2: public rural hospital. Mudgy, beautiful part of the world.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Lovely part of the world. A shout out to all
- 12:41Speaker 1: medical workers in rural Australia.
- 12:44Speaker 2: It's too late.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Keep it up.
- 12:45Speaker 2: I can't crawl back now.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Keep up that great work.
- 12:47Speaker 2: I'm on a list out there. If I turn out,
- 12:50Speaker 2: they're like, oh.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Please, I've cut my arm. No, fuck you.
- 12:54Speaker 2: I've cut it off. And were told to stay as
- 12:58Speaker 2: long as I needed. I decided to stay until my
- 13:01Speaker 2: milk came in, which was three days. That's not taking
- 13:04Speaker 2: the piss. All up five days from when I was
- 13:07Speaker 2: first induced. Do you get kicked out early in bigger hospitals?
- 13:11Speaker 2: I would say yeah. Well, let's start with you. Let's start.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Dimity is asking Matt first.
- 13:16Speaker 1: When I gave birth, look, I remember for Marley, who
- 13:21Speaker 1: was up first, we had a bit of a crappy setup.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Great public hospital. Shout out to Randwick Women's. Amazing work.
- 13:28Speaker 2: The hospital or just women in general?
- 13:30Speaker 1: Both. Shout out to all hospitals and women.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple out there.
- 13:38Speaker 1: So we had a room, luckily, where it was a
- 13:42Speaker 1: private room in the public system. We like weaseled our
- 13:45Speaker 1: way into that room.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Must be nice.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I can't really talk about it because we'll get to
- 13:51Speaker 2: mine in a moment.
- 13:52Speaker 1: And then, you know, I had a god awful bed.
- 13:55Speaker 1: You poor thing.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Thank you. And it was a pretty like.
- 13:59Speaker 2: It was a bed though.
- 14:00Speaker 1: It was a pretty brutal experience. You know, Laura, I'm
- 14:02Speaker 1: sure she doesn't mind me saying, had an episiotomy. So
- 14:05Speaker 1: they had to make a couple of incisions. And I
- 14:08Speaker 1: remember the morning after, we had one night, the morning
- 14:10Speaker 1: after she was like, well, let's get out of here.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Laura was.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I've got emails to get to.
- 14:15Speaker 1: I've got to be at Tony May at five.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:18Speaker 1: And so we got home pretty quick. But I guess
- 14:21Speaker 1: it's easy with your first one because coming home is great.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Different with Lola because you're coming home to another child
- 14:28Speaker 1: and that was probably the biggest regret that Laura says
- 14:32Speaker 1: is trying to get home too quick into a household
- 14:35Speaker 1: with another small baby who doesn't understand when you're also
- 14:38Speaker 1: trying to recover.
- 14:39Speaker 5: Right.
- 14:39Speaker 2: And then how did you go with Poppy?
- 14:40Speaker 1: So Poppy, we went private.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Poppy's the private baby.
- 14:45Speaker 1: She's getting the baby. It's just weird because normally the
- 14:47Speaker 1: third baby gets the dregs.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Changing the tide? No.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Changing the tide.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Changing the tide.
- 14:52Speaker 1: It's the change of the tide.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Yes, the third child now gets spoiled instead of forgotten.
- 14:57Speaker 1: But we decided that, well, Laura decided that she was
- 15:00Speaker 1: going to stay in there. I think she had four nights.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Okay.
- 15:03Speaker 1: And I was like, this place is lovely. Like the
- 15:06Speaker 1: lady walks past and she's like, oh, do you want
- 15:08Speaker 1: afternoon snacks? I've got tea, biscuits.
- 15:10Speaker 2: It's like being in a hotel. Like being.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Obviously, there is the traumatic part prior, which is giving birth.
- 15:18Speaker 2: They're delivery suites. This is the hotel part.
- 15:22Speaker 1: It's like it's a hotel where you get beaten up
- 15:24Speaker 1: before checking in.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Well put. We did both private and it was at
- 15:29Speaker 2: the MARTA.
- 15:30Speaker 1: What's the MARTA like? What's the MARTA with you?
- 15:33Speaker 2: There is nothing a MARTA with the MARTA. It is
- 15:36Speaker 2: like being in a hotel. I was like, I can
- 15:37Speaker 2: get used to this. Room service. You can get. Room service.
- 15:43Speaker 1: And they were like, they give Laura a meal and
- 15:45Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, do you want one? And I
- 15:46Speaker 1: was like, I'm sure we got charged for it all.
- 15:48Speaker 1: But I was like, yes.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:51Speaker 1: They were delish.
- 15:52Speaker 2: When we checked out, they were like, sir, how do
- 15:53Speaker 2: you want to fix this up? I'm like, we just
- 15:55Speaker 2: had a baby. How dare you?
- 15:56Speaker 1: Okay.
- 15:58Speaker 2: We are tired, exhausted. So I think both times, like
- 16:00Speaker 2: four or five nights from what I remember, the first
- 16:04Speaker 2: we had a family room. Yeah. So in the hospital,
- 16:08Speaker 2: there is one corner room. And we got put in
- 16:11Speaker 2: that room because the first night.
- 16:13Speaker 1: You whizzled your way in there.
- 16:15Speaker 2: No, no. The first night.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Give me the penthouse.
- 16:18Speaker 2: We were in the shit house, actually. We were in
- 16:20Speaker 2: Gen Pop because there were so many babies that day.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Lots of babies. So we ended up in Gen Pop
- 16:26Speaker 2: in a room. Still a nice room. Still fine. But
- 16:29Speaker 2: one night down there where it's not overly child friendly.
- 16:32Speaker 2: There's people hustling and bustling up and down still because
- 16:35Speaker 2: it's a hospital, right? And people are sick.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Well said.
- 16:37Speaker 2: And I'm not going to be like, oh, shut up.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Stop dying. I've got a child.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Could you die quieter?
- 16:43Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like. That's better.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Going down the cancer ward and you're like, guys.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Guys, do you mind?
- 16:51Speaker 1: Do you want to keep it down?
- 16:52Speaker 2: Look, the lung cancer ward is real noisy.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Sorry. Sorry.
- 16:59Speaker 2: I don't know if we can keep that in, but
- 17:01Speaker 2: we will. So then we got moved up into the
- 17:05Speaker 2: corner room, which was a big, Double bed. Yeah. But
- 17:09Speaker 2: here's the fucking kicker.
- 17:10Speaker 1: What?
- 17:11Speaker 2: It inclines. You know how they sit mum up to feed?
- 17:15Speaker 2: So guess who gets inclined at the same time? So
- 17:18Speaker 2: I'm asleep like this. Yeah. Fuck knows what time it
- 17:24Speaker 2: is in the morning.
- 17:25Speaker 1: April, do you mind?
- 17:29Speaker 2: No, it's not her. It's the beautiful midwife who's doing
- 17:33Speaker 2: an amazing job. And honestly, I shouldn't be complaining, but
- 17:36Speaker 2: I'm going to. It is a big double recliner bed. Okay,
- 17:40Speaker 2: great for the oldies at home if they get out
- 17:42Speaker 2: of the bed at the same time.
- 17:43Speaker 1: All the grandparents right now are like, I love them.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I bloody love that.
- 17:47Speaker 3: So I'm like asleep and then the fucking light comes
- 17:50Speaker 3: on It's like the lights in the studio here, it's
- 17:54Speaker 3: like I'm down the fucking produce aisle in Coles.
- 17:57Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, shit, oh, and then, and I'm like
- 18:03Speaker 2: up with April like this, like, seriously? And April's like,
- 18:09Speaker 2: shut up.
- 18:10Speaker 4: I'm like, fair, fair, but the double-inclined bed. People will
- 18:15Speaker 4: be complaining about the armchair that they sleep in. Sleep
- 18:19Speaker 4: on an inclined bed.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Am I right?
- 18:22Speaker 2: Am I right? Like three every two hours.
- 18:27Speaker 1: And your corner room, which is like 50 square metres.
- 18:30Speaker 1: I know. And the jacuzzi was so small.
- 18:32Speaker 2: The sauna was lovely though. I forgot about the double-inclined
- 18:38Speaker 2: bed until just now.
- 18:39Speaker 1: I never knew you had that experience.
- 18:41Speaker 2: I don't. Well, you're hearing it for the first time.
- 18:43Speaker 2: But I do remember just the lights are extra bright.
- 18:47Speaker 2: And then have you ever been to the nursery where
- 18:48Speaker 2: they keep them? The baby, that is.
- 18:51Speaker 1: The nursery.
- 18:52Speaker 2: I'm talking newborn nursery where it's like, okay, well, mum
- 18:56Speaker 2: needs a rest because she's just pushed.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Actually, I do remember one of the rooms with Marley
- 19:01Speaker 1: in the public system.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And it's just bright lights. All these babies are asleep.
- 19:06Speaker 2: And it's like I could never sleep in that. Even
- 19:09Speaker 2: if I was a baby, I'd be like tossing and turning,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I think. I don't know. But that's what it's like
- 19:15Speaker 2: when they came into feed. It was like high beams,
- 19:18Speaker 2: like boom. And, like, they're ringing in the ear.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I don't want to tell them how to do their job,
- 19:23Speaker 1: but just try to turn the lights off.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Just can't you... Dim them? Can't you breastfeed in the dark?
- 19:28Speaker 2: I don't want to get in trouble by the mums
- 19:31Speaker 2: of this world. Actually, before we end on that note
- 19:33Speaker 2: real quick.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Okay.
- 19:34Speaker 2: If you, as a listener listening right now, and you
- 19:35Speaker 2: have a... fun story about staying in the hospital long
- 19:39Speaker 2: or something.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Or if you got kicked out oh yes if you're
- 19:42Speaker 1: getting chicken winged out of the hospital they're like get
- 19:44Speaker 1: out of here yeah it's just.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Like ah that guy it's like.
- 19:47Speaker 4: A succulent chinese meal is getting kicked out of a hospital.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I have to say happy birthday to Poppy. Oh, yeah.
- 19:57Speaker 2: What September?
- 19:59Speaker 1: 24. Okay. It is wild, isn't it? How different your
- 20:03Speaker 1: first child's first birthday is versus your The latter one.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Well, he got the private hospital, so.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Yeah. Suck it up.
- 20:11Speaker 1: She came out in like.
- 20:12Speaker 2: She was like, ah, reclining beds.
- 20:15Speaker 1: It's all up from here.
- 20:16Speaker 2: No, it's not. No, it's not.
- 20:18Speaker 1: All your clothes are hand-me-downs. I was thinking back to
- 20:21Speaker 1: when Marley had her first birthday and we invited everyone over.
- 20:25Speaker 1: So exciting.
- 20:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:26Speaker 1: I think we had little bickies that were like, Marley. Really? Yeah.
- 20:31Speaker 2: You do go a little bit all out when it's
- 20:32Speaker 2: the first.
- 20:32Speaker 1: It's a bit OTT. And then Lola, not so much. Poppy,
- 20:36Speaker 1: we'll just go to the RSL.
- 20:37Speaker 2: You forgot a birthday altogether. You're like, oh, do you
- 20:40Speaker 2: know it's Poppy's birthday today?
- 20:42Speaker 1: So happy birthday to little Poppy.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Yes, happy birthday, Poppy. Now we've got a message here. Well,
- 20:47Speaker 2: it's a message to you because it's addressed to you
- 20:49Speaker 2: from someone by the name of Hayley.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Hayley, yeah. Look, she's got– Hayley, I appreciate the message.
- 20:55Speaker 1: A lot of people, we talked about the freezer, the
- 20:57Speaker 1: issue with the freezer– My freezer has a drawer. The drawer,
- 21:00Speaker 1: the double drawer.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's the drawer to open. The drawer, no door.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Or is it door, then drawer?
- 21:06Speaker 1: It's drawer into a drawer in the freezer.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Yes.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Drawer meets drawer.
- 21:10Speaker 2: No doors.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Terrible.
- 21:11Speaker 2: And that's the problem.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Terrible.
- 21:13Speaker 2: We're missing the door, then drawer.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Freezers need a door, right?
- 21:17Speaker 2: Like ours. Door, drawer, drawer, two ice drawers. So doors
- 21:22Speaker 2: to drawers situation, I think.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Well done on that decision.
- 21:25Speaker 2: It was an accident.
- 21:26Speaker 1: You were April.
- 21:27Speaker 2: That's what I ended up with. You're lucky. It was
- 21:29Speaker 2: the only fridge that fit.
- 21:30Speaker 1: And just count your blessings, Ash.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Thank you. You don't really think about these things until
- 21:34Speaker 2: you get to this age where you're like.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Yeah. And now you're faced with what I have, which
- 21:38Speaker 1: is a fucking fridge, freezer that always breaks down. You've
- 21:41Speaker 1: got to defrost it. But Hayley says she's, I'm assuming
- 21:45Speaker 1: she's got a draw draw. She gets the hairdryer. And
- 21:48Speaker 1: it speeds up the process. So you put the hair
- 21:50Speaker 1: dryer and it defrosts. So there's a little vent and
- 21:53Speaker 1: it frosts over, freezes. Can't suck the air in, Ash.
- 21:57Speaker 1: The hair dryer comes on.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Ah, to melt it.
- 22:00Speaker 1: To melt it.
- 22:02Speaker 2: I have one of those little bar fridges with a
- 22:04Speaker 2: little freezer corner. You know those things?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Yeah, like in the hotel room. Yeah.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Anyway, you think that's useless. They're never cold enough. You
- 22:11Speaker 2: think that. Dude, I had one one time. I had
- 22:13Speaker 2: a beer bottle in there and it literally surrounded the
- 22:15Speaker 2: beer bottle in ice.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Yeah, freezers do that, yeah.
- 22:17Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a fridge freezer and I think there's
- 22:19Speaker 2: no way it can be that cold.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Never underestimate the fridge freezer.
- 22:22Speaker 2: So, yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 1: That's what I always say.
- 22:24Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about fridge freezers.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Yeah, a word of warning to all the parents out there.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Another thing I've got here is something I want to
- 22:32Speaker 2: read you. Because we don't have Vic in the studio today,
- 22:34Speaker 2: I thought I'd better do my own news, breaking news.
- 22:37Speaker 2: So we've got a news theme. Good evening. This one
- 22:47Speaker 2: is more like an FYI. I'm not sure for.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Those out there. Or I guess maybe if there are
- 22:53Speaker 1: any men who are single and they listen to the
- 22:55Speaker 1: pod and they go, I really want to find someone
- 22:57Speaker 1: to have a kiss with.
- 22:58Speaker 2: And looking for cash.
- 22:59Speaker 1: And go on.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Women in Latvia are willing to pay $ 3, 000 a month
- 23:05Speaker 2: to rent men due to a shortage of men.
- 23:10Speaker 1: How much? $ 3, 000 a month.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Is that Latvian dollars?
- 23:15Speaker 2: Should I check the conversion?
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that, like 50 cents?
- 23:18Speaker 2: Latvian to AUD.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Latvia's a lovely country.
- 23:23Speaker 2: It's a Euro.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Perfect.
- 23:25Speaker 2: They're in Euros? Bro, that's only five grand a month. Sorry, April.
- 23:29Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm going. That's only five grand a month.
- 23:33Speaker 1: That's good money.
- 23:34Speaker 2: That is outstanding money.
- 23:35Speaker 1: There's a shortage of Latvian men?
- 23:37Speaker 2: Yeah. What do you think?
- 23:39Speaker 1: Why? What's happened? It's a trick.
- 23:40Speaker 2: It's something they're not telling us.
- 23:42Speaker 1: It's a trick. Don't be fooled.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:44Speaker 2: It just says shortage of men due to shortage of men.
- 23:47Speaker 1: That'll do it.
- 23:48Speaker 2: All right. Well, there you go. You've been informed.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Is Vic's breaking news segment at risk of being taken over?
- 23:54Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
- 23:54Speaker 1: No.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Mine are always stupid.
- 23:57Speaker 1: You're a smart boy.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Thank you. What have we got next?
- 23:59Speaker 1: It's time for this.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Now you need us more than ever. Know that we
- 24:04Speaker 2: still have each other. You can send us your doting dilemma.
- 24:09Speaker 2: You can send us your doting dilemma. Ella, Ella, Ella, Ella.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Doting dilemma. This segment is where our doters send in
- 24:21Speaker 2: any problems they may or may not be having. Why
- 24:24Speaker 2: would you send in a problem you may not be having?
- 24:26Speaker 2: I don't know. But we try and fix it.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Letting you know that I do not have a problem
- 24:30Speaker 1: with my fridge. Thank you.
- 24:31Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Great.
- 24:32Speaker 2: We don't try and fix the problem. We just talk
- 24:35Speaker 2: about it. We don't have any genuine solutions.
- 24:38Speaker 1: We do fix. That's what we do here. We fix
- 24:40Speaker 1: people's lives, Ash.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Don't expose us to being responsible.
- 24:46Speaker 1: For fixing people's lives. No, because then people will be like,
- 24:48Speaker 1: we feel like, well, we don't fix it, then no
- 24:49Speaker 1: one's going to send in the problem. We don't have
- 24:51Speaker 1: the problems. We don't have the segment.
- 24:52Speaker 2: I feel like if we talk about it, then people
- 24:55Speaker 2: mail in with a fix. And then they're on the
- 24:57Speaker 2: chopping block when it gets tits up.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Well, sometimes they mail in.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Okay.
- 25:00Speaker 3: All right.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Do you want to start? That's quite a lot.
- 25:02Speaker 3: From Anon.
- 25:03Speaker 1: My husband and I just welcomed our first baby in March. Congratulations. Yes. Anon.
- 25:07Speaker 2: That's a lovely name.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Beautiful name. Anon Jr. My husband has been at the
- 25:11Speaker 1: same company for 26 years. That's a great innings. One
- 25:16Speaker 1: of the largest employers in Australia. Who would it be?
- 25:20Speaker 1: What was? Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Working
- 25:23Speaker 1: his way from trolley boy to regional manager of 11 locations.
- 25:28Speaker 1: That's the Australian dream right there. He asked to take
- 25:31Speaker 1: three months parental leave and was told yes. Then three
- 25:35Speaker 1: days before his last day, he was told his role
- 25:38Speaker 1: was terminated. A few weeks later, he was out of
- 25:41Speaker 1: the company after 26 years. So we decided to take
- 25:45Speaker 1: off in a caravan and do a lap of Australia
- 25:47Speaker 1: while we were having the time. Our bub is six
- 25:50Speaker 1: months next week and having both of us off for
- 25:53Speaker 1: his first whole year at least has been amazing. Don't
- 25:57Speaker 1: get me wrong. The situation has turned out to be
- 25:59Speaker 1: great for us to be able to do all this,
- 26:01Speaker 1: but still absolutely shocking for his company to do that.
- 26:04Speaker 1: I kept thinking if this was mum, I don't think
- 26:06Speaker 1: they would have ever have dared to have done that.
- 26:09Speaker 1: So why is it okay to do it for dad?
- 26:11Speaker 2: I just think like I've had a lot of jobs,
- 26:14Speaker 2: as you know. Okay. Just a couple.
- 26:16Speaker 1: What was the job you mentioned yesterday that I didn't
- 26:18Speaker 1: know about?
- 26:19Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's one I haven't told you
- 26:21Speaker 2: about where I only lasted one day.
- 26:23Speaker 1: No, you were the fucking Blacktown staff manager. No, no.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Blacktown City Council.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I used to look after all the contractors in every council.
- 26:32Speaker 1: In what region?
- 26:32Speaker 2: New South Wales and North Queensland. I was just good
- 26:36Speaker 2: with people, bad with everything else. But I have worked
- 26:41Speaker 2: in a lot of businesses and I'll say they don't
- 26:43Speaker 2: give a fuck about you. Yeah. Like full stop. Like
- 26:46Speaker 2: they don't care. Like that is horrible. But no one
- 26:50Speaker 2: in that company lost sleep over this.
- 26:52Speaker 1: No. No.
- 26:52Speaker 2: So, I mean, I get what you're saying.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Actually, you're a HR expert.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Not expert.
- 26:58Speaker 1: I've got some knowledge.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:00Speaker 1: You don't like the pressure of the expert title.
- 27:02Speaker 2: The thing is, right, there are so many gray areas
- 27:05Speaker 2: and loopholes within human resources. Little favor the business.
- 27:08Speaker 1: But for anyone who doesn't know, Ash worked in HR
- 27:11Speaker 1: for how many years, Ash?
- 27:13Speaker 2: A couple, a few years, several years.
- 27:15Speaker 1: So can you find, if someone says, I want to
- 27:18Speaker 1: take Matt leave.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Absolutely not. You cannot fire that person. But what's happened
- 27:21Speaker 2: here is that the position has been made redundant by
- 27:24Speaker 2: the sounds of things.
- 27:25Speaker 1: He's a like, he's a manager of 11 locations.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Doesn't matter.
- 27:28Speaker 1: I guess they could say that.
- 27:28Speaker 2: They could be absorbed by someone else. That's the thing.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Internal policy. Here we go. Internal policy favors the internal,
- 27:35Speaker 2: which is the business. All right. But fair work would
- 27:37Speaker 2: favor the worker.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Hmm.
- 27:39Speaker 2: So in that instance, if, I mean, silver lining for them, great.
- 27:42Speaker 2: And they would have got paid out by the sounds
- 27:44Speaker 2: of things. 26 years is pretty decent. I'm not sure.
- 27:46Speaker 2: It's just an assumption. And if not, I'm sorry about that.
- 27:49Speaker 2: But I'm glad that it worked.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Out for you.
- 27:50Speaker 2: But there are families out there it doesn't work out for.
- 27:53Speaker 2: But the only thing I can say to do, if
- 27:55Speaker 2: you feel like you've been unfairly treated, fair work will
- 27:58Speaker 2: side with the work of 90% of the time.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Do you have to pay fair work? How is it
- 28:02Speaker 1: fair work? They're just there. They're there to help you.
- 28:04Speaker 2: It's government funded. It's government owned. It's government run. It's
- 28:07Speaker 2: a New South Wales fair work.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Have you ever used fair work?
- 28:10Speaker 2: I haven't used it personally. I haven't had to use
- 28:13Speaker 2: it for me personally. My sister, she owns a small
- 28:18Speaker 2: business and she has had to go up against them
- 28:21Speaker 2: for something. And it's easier to just settle it.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Than it is to have the battle.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Because they'll side with the work. So for example, here's
- 28:29Speaker 2: an example.
- 28:30Speaker 5: Please.
- 28:30Speaker 2: A casual worker, okay, my sister caught her red-handed stealing
- 28:36Speaker 2: on camera. Right. She was let go. She's a casual.
- 28:40Speaker 2: There's not no more you think you'd have to do
- 28:41Speaker 2: with that. She went to fair work and said I
- 28:44Speaker 2: was unfairly dismissed, right, because I didn't know I was
- 28:47Speaker 2: being recorded even though the premises is all under surveillance.
- 28:51Speaker 2: And I missed out on a month's worth of work
- 28:53Speaker 2: now and I would like to be paid that. It's
- 28:55Speaker 2: much easier for the business to just pay that than
- 28:57Speaker 2: to go through the legal process.
- 28:58Speaker 1: The freaking nerve.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Because, I mean, it could be different now. And I
- 29:02Speaker 2: don't want to sit here and say. That's a standard.
- 29:05Speaker 2: This is 100% correct what's coming out of my mouth.
- 29:07Speaker 2: But my experience with seeing it in and around previous
- 29:11Speaker 2: jobs that you have rights as a worker, but not
- 29:14Speaker 2: within the company you work for. Because they will do
- 29:17Speaker 2: what's beneficial. Like, do you really think that, let's just
- 29:20Speaker 2: say this is, or worse let's just say that right
- 29:23Speaker 2: and it's like do you think they're ever going to
- 29:25Speaker 2: do anything that doesn't benefit them financially no so why
- 29:30Speaker 2: do why do people think oh you know we're a
- 29:32Speaker 2: family this is a family like we're a family here
- 29:35Speaker 2: trust me the people in that family would murder dad
- 29:38Speaker 2: real quick like just right?
- 29:41Speaker 1: This chat got dark very quickly.
- 29:43Speaker 2: So, I mean.
- 29:45Speaker 1: But the silver lining is, the silver lining is, like
- 29:47Speaker 1: I remember when COVID happened and work was completely dried
- 29:52Speaker 1: up and I was like, what do I do now?
- 29:54Speaker 1: The silver lining being, being able to spend that time
- 29:57Speaker 1: without the distraction of work. to just enjoy time with
- 30:01Speaker 1: a newborn.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Amazing.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Amazing in this instance, but like.
- 30:05Speaker 1: And the fact that you've taken, you've done the Australian dream,
- 30:08Speaker 1: the caravan trip.
- 30:09Speaker 2: You definitely took advantage of a shit situation. There it is.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Where I think like some people aren't going to have that.
- 30:15Speaker 2: So if you're in this position and this happens to you,
- 30:18Speaker 2: of course, sorry, but also like you can't sit, not
- 30:21Speaker 2: all of them are going to be a silver lining
- 30:23Speaker 2: where you get to, yes, you'll get to spend more time,
- 30:25Speaker 2: but then people live paycheck to paycheck.
- 30:26Speaker 1: And, and, fuck the big guy take him to court.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Yeah go to fair work just say hey this is
- 30:31Speaker 2: what's happened but they would have they would have gone
- 30:33Speaker 2: through their legals but you'll be really shocked with how
- 30:37Speaker 2: dumb hiring managers are how fucking dumb they are like
- 30:40Speaker 2: so like i used to have some of them ring
- 30:42Speaker 2: me up and go i don't like working with this
- 30:43Speaker 2: person anymore i'm like i'm gonna pretend i didn't hear
- 30:45Speaker 2: that because straight away you have no grounds to fire
- 30:48Speaker 2: this person because you don't like them you got bad
- 30:50Speaker 2: breath it doesn't work like that And they're like, I
- 30:52Speaker 2: don't care how it works. It's like, okay, well, let's
- 30:54Speaker 2: expose this business to a lawsuit.
- 30:56Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting a little taste of corporate ash.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Circle back to that. And it's nice.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Just on that, I kept thinking it was, the last
- 31:05Speaker 2: sentence of that one was, would it be the same
- 31:07Speaker 2: if it was for mum? Probably not because it's way more,
- 31:11Speaker 2: they've got government funded maternity leave. that they are able
- 31:15Speaker 2: to tap into. So probably the business would have benefited
- 31:18Speaker 2: from that instead of making them redundant.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Yeah, but I swear I've heard of situations where mum
- 31:24Speaker 1: was going to take mat leave, giving birth, and then
- 31:27Speaker 1: she's lost her job because it got swallowed up.
- 31:29Speaker 2: There's a couple of instances where I've seen it happen
- 31:31Speaker 2: where it's like someone's taken mat leave and they've decided
- 31:35Speaker 2: that they're not coming back.
- 31:36Speaker 1: It's like Sarah Arbo from Today Show.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:38Speaker 1: She took mat leave, had a baby, gone, gone.
- 31:41Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Sometimes I remember it would be,
- 31:44Speaker 2: we would have people take their mat leave and then
- 31:47Speaker 2: it would be, they just wouldn't come back because they
- 31:50Speaker 2: had decided to. Once they're out, they're like, but some
- 31:53Speaker 2: came back. But I think like when you're in that
- 31:56Speaker 2: transition of, in that transition of maternity leave and stuff
- 32:00Speaker 2: like that, and you don't have ears in the building,
- 32:03Speaker 2: there's always that uncertain of whether you still got a job,
- 32:05Speaker 2: even though legally you do. But I do recall a
- 32:08Speaker 2: lot of times there would be, a lot of people
- 32:10Speaker 2: just wouldn't come back. They would find other interests and
- 32:12Speaker 2: something they want to do Instead of being your corporate mum.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Working sucks.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Exactly right. It's like, fuck. But anyway, I would say
- 32:19Speaker 2: any expecting parent out there, learn what you're entitled to
- 32:24Speaker 2: is the biggest thing. And then also exercise your right
- 32:27Speaker 2: to include fair work.
- 32:28Speaker 1: You're giving advice. I like it. Next question.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Next question or next dilemma. Also, sorry, just on the
- 32:34Speaker 2: back of that, Matt, before we go, reminder, there is
- 32:36Speaker 2: a link in our bio to sign a position. For
- 32:39Speaker 2: a position, a new role for you. A petition. A petition.
- 32:43Speaker 2: There is a link in our bio for a petition
- 32:45Speaker 2: for what, Matt?
- 32:46Speaker 1: For the Parenthood. They're an organization that's advocating for longer
- 32:49Speaker 1: paid parental leave for both mom and for dad as well.
- 32:52Speaker 1: So get behind it. It's a great cause. And hopefully
- 32:55Speaker 1: we'll change the nation.
- 32:58Speaker 2: One employer at a time. All right. This one's from Chloe.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Do other parents feel guilty leaving their child with their
- 33:03Speaker 2: partner to do something for themselves? Even when you know
- 33:07Speaker 2: they're completely safe and happy, do you find yourself feeling
- 33:10Speaker 2: guilty for taking time for yourself? and then rushing whatever
- 33:14Speaker 2: you're doing because you feel like you should be getting home.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Like you're physically away, but mentally still at home the
- 33:19Speaker 2: whole time. For context, our child is 18 years old.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Just kidding.
- 33:24Speaker 1: 18 months old.
- 33:24Speaker 6: I just wanted to see your reaction. You went like,
- 33:28Speaker 6: that's okay. For context, our child is 18 months old.
- 33:32Speaker 6: Is this just the season of parenting I'm in?
- 33:37Speaker 2: I know exactly that feeling because like both April and
- 33:40Speaker 2: I are really good at being like, hey, we need
- 33:42Speaker 2: to do like, hey, we'll go to the gym. And
- 33:44Speaker 2: then when she gets home to the gym, we're like,
- 33:46Speaker 2: we're always as a family, like, how was it? You know,
- 33:48Speaker 2: like to let her know that we are happy that
- 33:52Speaker 2: she's doing what, you know. So I think, first of all,
- 33:55Speaker 2: go easy on yourself because you're fucking parenting 24-7. If
- 33:59Speaker 2: you want to take an hour out, take the hour.
- 34:01Speaker 1: 100%. Parent Guild is great sometimes in that when you
- 34:05Speaker 1: really can't be arsed, And there's moments where you're exhausted.
- 34:07Speaker 1: A bit of parent guilt kind of gets you back
- 34:10Speaker 1: on the horse.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Especially if it needs to be done, whatever it is.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, all right, I'll go to the park then. Exactly.
- 34:15Speaker 2: It's like if you've been inside all day because it's
- 34:18Speaker 2: raining or whatever and you sort of already have no
- 34:21Speaker 2: motivation as a family, you're sort of like, it's raining.
- 34:24Speaker 2: And then surprise, the sun comes out and the kids
- 34:26Speaker 2: are going mental and you're like.
- 34:28Speaker 1: And the parent guilt's like, get up.
- 34:29Speaker 2: You're not getting up because you want to.
- 34:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:31Speaker 2: You're getting up because you're like.
- 34:32Speaker 1: So it's great for a little help and motivation when
- 34:34Speaker 1: you need it. But at the same time, it can
- 34:37Speaker 1: also be so detrimental. And I think it's so important
- 34:40Speaker 1: for any parent to know that you can take time
- 34:43Speaker 1: to do something for yourself, not for the kids. Just
- 34:47Speaker 1: do it to fill your own cup up.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Yeah. It's important that you have your own thing because
- 34:52Speaker 2: as a parent, your kids, all of a sudden, everything
- 34:54Speaker 2: that's yours is not yours anymore. Like especially for mom,
- 34:57Speaker 2: your body's not yours anymore because you're getting, you're using
- 35:00Speaker 2: it to feed your child. You're picking up after him,
- 35:02Speaker 2: you're wiping bums, you're doing all these things. It's not
- 35:04Speaker 2: about you, but you still need to, I think you
- 35:06Speaker 2: still need to have your thing. So whatever that might be.
- 35:10Speaker 2: So if you're like, I'm going to say it again,
- 35:12Speaker 2: I go for a walk, like such an easy, simple thing. Right.
- 35:15Speaker 2: But you need something that's you. I think everyone does. Mom,
- 35:18Speaker 2: dad needs something that's yours to be able to go. Okay.
- 35:23Speaker 2: And then I'm back.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Because Laura won't take time off on the weekend to
- 35:26Speaker 1: go to the gym. She's always, Laura's always saying, I
- 35:28Speaker 1: wish I had more time to go to the gym.
- 35:30Speaker 1: She doesn't have time Monday to Friday. And I'm like,
- 35:32Speaker 1: just go on the weekend. And she's like, no, because
- 35:34Speaker 1: then that's the time for the kids. Like we try
- 35:37Speaker 1: as best as we can to clear the schedule on weekends.
- 35:40Speaker 1: And that's just purely for us and the kids, quality
- 35:43Speaker 1: family time.
- 35:44Speaker 2: That you're building. I feel like if you're not, if
- 35:46Speaker 2: you don't have that, If you're like, it's for the kids,
- 35:49Speaker 2: immediately your brain's then like on the negative note where
- 35:52Speaker 2: it's like, well, it's all for someone else and not
- 35:54Speaker 2: for me. You know what I mean? Like I get,
- 35:56Speaker 2: you might really, you're going to enjoy that whole weekend,
- 35:58Speaker 2: but you need, I feel like you need that time.
- 36:00Speaker 1: And sometimes like we'll come home and I, I, one,
- 36:04Speaker 1: one time I was working on the weekend. I came
- 36:06Speaker 1: home Saturday afternoon and I was like, so. Did anyone
- 36:09Speaker 1: miss me? And they're like, shut up. We're watching TV.
- 36:11Speaker 1: I was like, you didn't. Okay, great.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Okay, great.
- 36:13Speaker 1: So there's moments where I was like, gosh, those kids.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I wonder how they're doing without me probably crying in
- 36:18Speaker 1: the corner right now.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Dude, the other night we were coming home from Aladala
- 36:21Speaker 2: and I was like, well, it was getting to like
- 36:23Speaker 2: 7 o'clock by the time I was going to walk
- 36:24Speaker 2: in the door. It was like quarter past 7. I
- 36:25Speaker 2: was like, I felt like, oh, fuck, I've been gone.
- 36:28Speaker 2: It's later than I thought I would be.
- 36:30Speaker 1: The kids are struggling without me.
- 36:31Speaker 2: All this thing and I walk in and fucking no
- 36:33Speaker 2: one was even there.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Where were they? I'm like, where?
- 36:35Speaker 2: They haven't left. Yeah. They've bloody left me.
- 36:39Speaker 1: I knew it would happen.
- 36:41Speaker 2: They all went to watch April Play Touch. Believe it
- 36:44Speaker 2: or not, they've survived without me. So just do yourself
- 36:48Speaker 2: a favour. Take half an hour or an hour to
- 36:51Speaker 2: do something you love because the people who love you
- 36:53Speaker 2: would want that. Fucking write that down. That down, Vic.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Damn it.
- 36:59Speaker 2: I keep looking over there. I'm like.
- 37:00Speaker 1: When Vic listens to this episode.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I will remember you.
- 37:04Speaker 1: She's like, wow, what did the boys smoke before that record?
- 37:09Speaker 2: She's like, they've got all their clothes on. I can
- 37:13Speaker 2: sense it. One more from a non. Oh. Hey, Vic's
- 37:18Speaker 2: not here, so we can fart as much as we like.
- 37:20Speaker 1: I've been farting all the time.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Have you?
- 37:21Speaker 1: All record, yeah.
- 37:22Speaker 2: No, I haven't noticed.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I'm very relaxed.
- 37:24Speaker 2: It's just like, anyway, so. Okay. Anon.
- 37:31Speaker 1: From Anon. At what age do you talk to the
- 37:34Speaker 1: kids about the birds and the bees, especially for boys
- 37:36Speaker 1: who are constantly touching their willies?
- 37:38Speaker 2: Anon or Anonhole?
- 37:41Speaker 1: It's not your best.
- 37:41Speaker 2: Not your best? This is a good one because Oscar
- 37:47Speaker 2: cannot keep his hands off it. So much so I'm like,
- 37:50Speaker 2: you got to pee, bro.
- 37:50Speaker 1: I feel like that's all kids, man.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's time to have the chat.
- 37:57Speaker 2: I think it's more if you're not in private, it's
- 38:00Speaker 2: probably best not to play with your private parts.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Write that down.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Write that down too, Vic. Oh, wait. You're not here. Sorry,
- 38:07Speaker 2: we told you not to be.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Yeah. We didn't fire Vic.
- 38:11Speaker 2: No. Her desk is empty.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Because she's editing right now.
- 38:14Speaker 2: She is at home editing.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Shout out to Vic.
- 38:17Speaker 2: But Dan's at home and the kids are at school.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Oh. Vic, put the computer down.
- 38:22Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself. You've earned it. Let us know how you go.
- 38:25Speaker 2: I want to be a wet one. Sorry, Vic.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Okay.
- 38:31Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, because Oscar will not. And I'm always like, hey, dude,
- 38:35Speaker 2: do you got a wee? And sometimes it's like, oh, yeah.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Because he's like, majority of the time he's playing and excited,
- 38:40Speaker 2: having too good of a time. And, you know, kids
- 38:41Speaker 2: piss themselves. But you can see he's like, sometimes he's like,
- 38:44Speaker 2: I'm like, go pee. He's like, yeah, okay. And then
- 38:47Speaker 2: goes off to do it.
- 38:47Speaker 1: Sometimes when the kids are doing a task that they
- 38:50Speaker 1: really enjoy when they were younger and they're like, what
- 38:53Speaker 1: are you doing? They're like, I just pissed myself. And
- 38:55Speaker 1: I'm like, why didn't you go to the toilet? Like, well,
- 38:56Speaker 1: I was really enjoying the task.
- 38:58Speaker 2: This fucking puzzle. Yeah. Dad, you need to get a
- 39:01Speaker 2: load of this Lego. Tell you right now, it's so
- 39:05Speaker 2: good I just shit myself.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Did you want to stop? I couldn't.
- 39:10Speaker 2: I couldn't.
- 39:12Speaker 1: And miss out on this?
- 39:13Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I was staying within the lines.
- 39:16Speaker 2: I was in the lines and I was like, you
- 39:18Speaker 2: know what, this could use a bit of piss.
- 39:20Speaker 1: And then just carry on.
- 39:21Speaker 2: It was just so good I couldn't stop. But other
- 39:23Speaker 2: times I'm like, hey, do you need to wait?
- 39:24Speaker 3: He's like, no.
- 39:25Speaker 2: And he's like, Oh, it's actually itchy. And I was like, okay, fair.
- 39:28Speaker 2: But then the other day I was like, Hey dude,
- 39:30Speaker 2: get your hand off your dick. Okay.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Get it off.
- 39:33Speaker 2: We're all hanging around, whatever. And he's like, yeah, but
- 39:35Speaker 2: it's really squishy. I was like, You got me there.
- 39:39Speaker 1: But I guess you must have at least with April
- 39:43Speaker 1: being pregnant with Macy, you would have just kind of
- 39:45Speaker 1: said like not as a formal sit down, Oscar, this
- 39:48Speaker 1: is how there's a baby in mummy's tummy.
- 39:49Speaker 2: Let the boy watch.
- 39:51Speaker 1: But you would have just been like, oh, there's a
- 39:53Speaker 1: baby in mummy's tummy, right?
- 39:54Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to remember how we explained it.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Not to have attack of the boomers because we do
- 39:59Speaker 1: have a few boomer listeners and we love them and
- 40:02Speaker 1: we enjoy the company always.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Always?
- 40:05Speaker 1: Yes, yes, always. But was there ever like a legitimate
- 40:08Speaker 1: story when they were saying, oh, yeah, Stork's bringing the babies? Oh,
- 40:12Speaker 1: because it's a movie, Stork. Is that the movie? It's
- 40:15Speaker 1: actually a documentary. Or were boomers legit and like, this
- 40:18Speaker 1: will fix the, this is the answer to the question?
- 40:20Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Is it kind of like an old saying, like just
- 40:24Speaker 2: to get out of the conversation? Like it's such a throwaway, oh,
- 40:29Speaker 2: you know.
- 40:29Speaker 1: But we would always say to the kids, like Marley
- 40:31Speaker 1: always understood that Laura had the baby, not me. Easy
- 40:35Speaker 1: mistake to make. And the baby was going to come
- 40:37Speaker 1: out of mummy's vagina. Like that was always just.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
- 40:39Speaker 1: But they've never, they never wanted to know more. Like
- 40:42Speaker 1: Marley's seven. She's never been like, well, hang on a sec.
- 40:44Speaker 2: How'd it get in there?
- 40:45Speaker 1: How did it get in there?
- 40:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:47Speaker 2: I think it was the same with April. It was like, oh, daddy,
- 40:50Speaker 2: baby's in mummy's tummy. And then, yeah. And it was
- 40:53Speaker 2: never any more inquisitive to how it, Because remember that
- 40:56Speaker 2: they also had the cabbage patch babies, which threw another
- 40:59Speaker 2: lot of confusion in amongst. First you got the stalks
- 41:02Speaker 2: and you got the cabbage patches. And it's like at
- 41:04Speaker 2: the age that our kids are at, I don't think
- 41:06Speaker 2: it's really required now until it might be more in
- 41:11Speaker 2: that 10, 11, 12 region. Really?
- 41:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this stage, like we're just talking
- 41:17Speaker 1: about the basics. I think when Marley is probably, I
- 41:21Speaker 1: think when she's about like 8, 9, 10, then we'll
- 41:24Speaker 1: be talking a bit more honestly about the next phase
- 41:27Speaker 1: of her life, which is puberty. And then I think
- 41:30Speaker 1: in the early teenage years, I think that's when you
- 41:33Speaker 1: start to. I don't know.
- 41:35Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. I guess there's going to be,
- 41:38Speaker 2: it's not always just up to the parent because at
- 41:40Speaker 2: some point at school, one of the kids is going
- 41:42Speaker 2: to be like, I fucking walked in on dad mounting mum.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:46Speaker 2: And eventually I got the, he's like, guys, gather around
- 41:48Speaker 2: and get this. You know? And like, there's going to
- 41:51Speaker 2: be a first time you find out and you're like, ugh.
- 41:54Speaker 1: I remember there was a, I think it was grade
- 41:56Speaker 1: three and they were using the term stiffy. And I
- 41:59Speaker 1: was like, what does that mean? And they were like,
- 42:01Speaker 1: you don't know what it means. And I was like,
- 42:03Speaker 1: what is this word? And I remember being in the
- 42:05Speaker 1: car and I was like, mum, what's a stiffy? And
- 42:07Speaker 1: she was like, I'm not telling you. And then my
- 42:09Speaker 1: older brother, I was like, would someone please explain?
- 42:12Speaker 2: Just a confused little boy.
- 42:13Speaker 1: What does it mean? And no one would tell me.
- 42:14Speaker 1: And I was like, fucking hell. I couldn't get the
- 42:18Speaker 1: answer from anyone. But these days it's wild that they've
- 42:21Speaker 1: only now introduced the age restrictions on porn.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 42:25Speaker 1: When the internet came out, we were just like, well,
- 42:27Speaker 1: Guess I'll just watch some hardcore porn then.
- 42:30Speaker 2: Why not? Whatever you want, really. It's all there. Kids,
- 42:33Speaker 2: if you're listening.
- 42:34Speaker 1: How we bloody made it through life. Actually, you've made
- 42:39Speaker 1: a very good point.
- 42:40Speaker 2: You've made a very good point that it's only just
- 42:42Speaker 2: become age-restricted. Have you gone through the age-restriction process of
- 42:47Speaker 2: any adult science?
- 42:48Speaker 1: No. I have.
- 42:51Speaker 2: And I'm willing to talk about it.
- 42:52Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for.
- 42:54Speaker 2: Okay. Damn it. Damn, we will talk about that next
- 42:57Speaker 2: time though.
- 42:58Speaker 1: Actually, because our kids are young. If you've got older
- 43:01Speaker 1: children and you've had the discussion, like fucking how do
- 43:05Speaker 1: you do it?
- 43:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're not at that stage yet until
- 43:10Speaker 2: someone gets inquisitive within the house. I guess I wouldn't
- 43:12Speaker 2: just go like set it in the diary, talk about sex.
- 43:15Speaker 2: So if you've got kids that are older than ours,
- 43:18Speaker 2: so older than seven. Teenagers. Say teenagers or even if
- 43:23Speaker 2: they're adults and you have a funny story about it,
- 43:25Speaker 2: How old were they when you had that proper conversation?
- 43:28Speaker 1: And how did it go down?
- 43:29Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 43:30Speaker 1: If it went well, great. Tell us. If it was awful, perfect.
- 43:33Speaker 2: I just remember when I was like 12 or 13,
- 43:34Speaker 2: we used to have this school called St. Augustine's near us,
- 43:38Speaker 2: but we called it St. Orgasm's. And I said that
- 43:40Speaker 2: to my mum once and she was like, do you
- 43:42Speaker 2: want to know what an orgasm is? I was like, no.
- 43:45Speaker 2: For 30 minutes she explained to me, tried to explain
- 43:47Speaker 2: to me what a fucking orgasm was.
- 43:49Speaker 1: So that's love.
- 43:51Speaker 2: That's how I know about the birds and the bees.
- 43:52Speaker 1: That's how I know about it. Because my sister, shout
- 43:56Speaker 1: out to Kate, friend of the pod, she found a
- 43:58Speaker 1: video in mum's wardrobe which was someone giving birth and
- 44:04Speaker 1: someone is narrating essentially what is happening.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Why does your mum have that video?
- 44:09Speaker 1: Because it was an educational video.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Imagine finding that video and it's you.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I think the person.
- 44:15Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, what's this video? And it's just
- 44:19Speaker 2: like your mum. You're like, mum? And then she's pushing
- 44:21Speaker 2: you out. Oh. Right? That'd be weird. That'd be weird.
- 44:25Speaker 1: But I remember one time, I can't remember how odd
- 44:27Speaker 1: I was, but we watched this woman give birth and
- 44:30Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness me. I am so
- 44:34Speaker 1: glad I'm not a woman.
- 44:36Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys do it.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Props. And we'll end this episode on a shout out
- 44:40Speaker 1: to the mums.
- 44:40Speaker 2: Yes. But one other question I've got for the doters.
- 44:44Speaker 2: What did you find in your mum's cupboard? Can I
- 44:47Speaker 2: tell you what I found? Yeah. It was a birthday card.
- 44:50Speaker 2: But on the front of it was like, happy birthday,
- 44:53Speaker 2: I can't wait to give you your Japanese blowjob. And
- 44:56Speaker 2: all it was, he opened it up and it was
- 44:58Speaker 2: a picture of a man and it was like a
- 45:01Speaker 2: cartoon and the female character on there was actually blowing
- 45:05Speaker 2: through the man's arsehole to give him an erection.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Wow.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Anyway, it was confiscated very quickly. But what did you
- 45:13Speaker 2: find in your mum's wardrobe?
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- 45:29Speaker 1: Well said. And we'll see you guys on Monday. No, Wednesday.
- 45:34Speaker 2: There we go. Wednesday, yes.
- 45:35Speaker 1: And well done to us for getting the episode done
- 45:37Speaker 1: without Vic. Yes.
- 45:38Speaker 2: It's probably our best episode yet.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Well.
- 45:42Speaker 2: There's already a lot in here.
- 45:43Speaker 1: See you guys on Wednesday. See you.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Bye. Bye.
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- 46:01Speaker 2: We pay our respects to their elders past and present
- 46:04Speaker 2: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait
- 46:06Speaker 2: Islander peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gadigal land.