Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / NATO Secretary General Iranian people are 'totally fed up' with their leadership
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's bring in now the Secretary General of the NATO Organization,
- 0:03Speaker 1: Mark Wooden.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Mr.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Secretary General, thanks for being with us, and welcome to
- 0:06Speaker 1: the program. I believe this is the first time.
- 0:08Speaker 2: That you've been with us. Good to be on the program.
- 0:10Speaker 1: I know that you weren't in the room for Netanyahu's speech.
- 0:13Speaker 2: I think so, from this place, but a lot of folks.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think that you were in the room
- 0:18Speaker 1: for Netanyahu's speech, but I wanted to start off with
- 0:20Speaker 1: what he was saying about this idea that the mullahs
- 0:25Speaker 1: in Tehran, the leaders in Tehran, are afraid of one thing,
- 0:29Speaker 1: the Iranian people, and that one day the power of
- 0:32Speaker 1: the people will overcome those in power. And he didn't
- 0:34Speaker 1: think that it would be too long from now. What
- 0:37Speaker 1: are you thinking about a potential end to this conflict?
- 0:40Speaker 1: What might it look like?
- 0:43Speaker 2: I think he's right. I think the Iranian people are
- 0:46Speaker 2: totally fed up with their leadership. What we are seeing is,
- 0:50Speaker 2: under American leadership, clearly degrading the nuclear capability of Iran
- 0:56Speaker 2: and the ballistic missile capability, which was a threat to Israel,
- 0:59Speaker 2: the Middle East, but also to Europe. And thanks to
- 1:02Speaker 2: President Trump, that has been degraded. And now with the
- 1:05Speaker 2: economic sanctions choking off the Iranian economy, the Iranian people
- 1:10Speaker 2: are feeling this day to day. The problem is that
- 1:12Speaker 2: the Iranian leadership itself is not always interested in the
- 1:17Speaker 2: interest of the people living in that great nation. Mr.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Secretary General, Sandra here in New York City. What do
- 1:24Speaker 3: you think about the environment in which he delivered the
- 1:26Speaker 3: speech and the scene that we are seeing right there
- 1:29Speaker 3: outside of the United Nations, the rust taking place? We
- 1:32Speaker 3: saw just before Netanyahu began speaking an exodus of delegates
- 1:37Speaker 3: from the room. He delivered that speech to almost an
- 1:39Speaker 3: empty room.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Yes, I was not in the room myself. I was
- 1:45Speaker 2: in other meetings here in New York, so I was
- 1:49Speaker 2: not there. But I think it is always relevant what
- 1:52Speaker 2: the Israeli prime minister has to say to the U.N.
- 1:56Speaker 2: General Assembly. So I think it is wiser if people
- 1:58Speaker 2: listen and then they might still disagree. But why would
- 2:01Speaker 2: you leave the room? OK, up to them.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Mr. Secretary General, I want to ask you about the
- 2:06Speaker 1: Ukraine war, because this is something that's very important to
- 2:09Speaker 1: you being the secretary general of NATO. What do you
- 2:11Speaker 1: think it will take? to bring an end to this conflict?
- 2:15Speaker 1: Because Russia doesn't want to seem to stop attacking Ukraine,
- 2:19Speaker 1: unless it gets territory. Ukraine doesn't appear willing to give
- 2:22Speaker 1: up any territory to stop Russia from attacking. So how
- 2:25Speaker 1: do you bring this to a close?
- 2:29Speaker 2: Well, let's first of all agree the success of Ukraine
- 2:33Speaker 2: at the moment, because they are killing or seriously wounding 43,000
- 2:37Speaker 2: Russians a month. So that's 1.2 million people. since this
- 2:43Speaker 2: war started. And Putin obviously is willing to sacrifice so
- 2:47Speaker 2: many of his own people because he started this unprovoked
- 2:51Speaker 2: war of aggression. Ukraine is also successful in holding the
- 2:54Speaker 2: front line in the Donbass, in Donetsk, these crucial fortified
- 2:59Speaker 2: cities in Donetsk. At the same time, the Russians are
- 3:03Speaker 2: pummeling Ukrainian cities and pummeling Ukrainian infrastructure and industry. So
- 3:09Speaker 2: My message is to my colleagues in NATO, make sure
- 3:13Speaker 2: that you keep full focus on Ukraine. Don't let yourself
- 3:16Speaker 2: diverted by other issues. Full focus on Ukraine, including keeping
- 3:20Speaker 2: the support for Ukraine growing. And I know that the
- 3:22Speaker 2: United States and this president, he and I agreed on
- 3:25Speaker 2: a program a year ago where Europeans and Canada pay
- 3:28Speaker 2: for weapons from the U.S. delivered to Ukraine. That's still continuing.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Europeans are continuing the support. And secondly, we need what
- 3:36Speaker 2: is taking place today and yesterday and every day of
- 3:40Speaker 2: the week, the constant efforts by the American president, and
- 3:43Speaker 2: I applaud him for this, breaking the deadlock with Putin,
- 3:46Speaker 2: trying to get this terrible war to a peaceful end,
- 3:49Speaker 2: together with his important advisers, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff,
- 3:54Speaker 2: and of course, Marco Rubio, working in concert to make
- 3:58Speaker 2: that happen. So this is necessary. Continuous support for Ukraine.
- 4:01Speaker 2: but also the peace process which the U.S. is leading.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You recently said that Putin is in a bad place
- 4:07Speaker 3: and that he is not winning, Russia is not winning
- 4:10Speaker 3: this war in Ukraine, but you urged NATO members to
- 4:13Speaker 3: continue to up their support for Ukraine. Can you be
- 4:17Speaker 3: more detailed? What does that look like?
- 4:21Speaker 2: Yeah, that means that the support in terms of weapons
- 4:24Speaker 2: supplies into Ukraine continues, the support in money, and the
- 4:28Speaker 2: European Union plays a big role here and is has
- 4:30Speaker 2: committed under the leadership of Ursula von der Leyen, the
- 4:33Speaker 2: president of the European Commission. The European Union nations have
- 4:37Speaker 2: pledged a lot of money for Ukraine. That's now flowing
- 4:39Speaker 2: into Ukraine. And this is crucial for Ukraine to sustain
- 4:43Speaker 2: the war effort. But it is also about concrete weapons
- 4:46Speaker 2: deliveries and air defense systems, which sometimes only the U.S.
- 4:51Speaker 2: and a couple of European nations can deliver, for that
- 4:54Speaker 2: to continue so that Ukraine is able to protect as
- 4:57Speaker 2: much as possible its inner cities, its infrastructure, etc. And
- 5:02Speaker 2: for the Europeans, it is important to stay totally focused
- 5:07Speaker 2: on this and not to be basically loose focus because
- 5:12Speaker 2: of the hybrid things going on in Europe and other
- 5:15Speaker 2: stuff going on in Europe from the Russians, because in
- 5:17Speaker 2: the end... We have to take it serious and we
- 5:19Speaker 2: have to react and we will, but it should never
- 5:23Speaker 2: take our eye off the ball, which is support for Ukraine. Mr.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Secretary General, on another subject, I know that you were
- 5:29Speaker 1: not a big fan of President Trump's call to annex Greenland.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I mean, perhaps that was just part of his maximalist
- 5:35Speaker 1: diplomatic strategy. But you do applaud this deal that he
- 5:39Speaker 1: struck with Denmark and Greenland in recent days. Tell us
- 5:42Speaker 1: more about that. And what role did you play at
- 5:44Speaker 1: the Davos Economic Forum in talking the president into a
- 5:47Speaker 1: different way other than annexation?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Well, what President Trump has consistently said said is that
- 5:57Speaker 2: there is this risk, and he is completely right here,
- 6:00Speaker 2: that Russia and China might gain more access to the
- 6:05Speaker 2: high north, to the Arctic, including Greenland. And also that
- 6:08Speaker 2: Greenland is of vital importance for the protection of the
- 6:12Speaker 2: United States itself. And what he has been able to
- 6:17Speaker 2: achieve together with the prime ministers of Greenland and Denmark
- 6:19Speaker 2: is a deal where long term Investments the U.S. is
- 6:23Speaker 2: making in Greenland, supporting the defense of the United States
- 6:27Speaker 2: and NATO territory, are there to stay long term, but
- 6:31Speaker 2: also to prevent the Russians and the Chinese to get
- 6:34Speaker 2: access to the Greenland economy. In the meantime, and this
- 6:38Speaker 2: is what he and I discussed in Davos, we see
- 6:42Speaker 2: NATO countries collectively taking responsibility for the protection of the
- 6:46Speaker 2: whole Arctic Circle. This is including the United States and Canada,
- 6:50Speaker 2: but also the five nations in Europe, in NATO, bordering
- 6:54Speaker 2: on the Arctic. Again, implementing the president's vision of a
- 6:58Speaker 2: secure and safe Arctic. So I think he was completely
- 7:01Speaker 2: right to make that point. And I think he was able,
- 7:04Speaker 2: together with the Detroit prime ministers, to bring this to
- 7:07Speaker 2: a very successful outcome.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Mr. Secretary General, I really appreciate you joining us here today.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Good to be in the program. Bye-bye. Thank you, sir.
- 7:17Speaker 1: We'll have to do it again soon.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Be sure to like and subscribe for all the Fox
- 7:22Speaker 1: News latest on YouTube and catch full shows streaming now
- 7:26Speaker 1: on Fox 1.