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7-30-26 Hour 1 - Sean Payton on Jonathon Cooper/Another Kawhi Leonard wrinkle/Taysom Hill to the Broncos? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: No, we don't get to do any of that, and
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  Speaker 2: so there's a process relative to league, relative to the
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  Speaker 2: legal process, and then as that all comes together, we can,
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  Speaker 2: you know, make the right decision. And that's simply it.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's no follow up, there's no other underlying. It's
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  Speaker 2: just it's today's protocol. And there's probably maybe a dozen
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  Speaker 2: players in other camps that are kind of going through
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  Speaker 2: a similar protocol.
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  Speaker 3: And man, we're.
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  Speaker 2: We're proud of the work he did these last call
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  Speaker 2: it month and a half. Whatn't easy, and it'll it'll
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  Speaker 2: continue to be a challenge.
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  Speaker 4: And we'll see where it goes.
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  Speaker 2: But but fully supportive of him right now as we
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  Speaker 2: gather all the information and then we go from there.
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  Speaker 4: All right, you know, camp is back. When you get
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  Speaker 4: two relative two's in the first three seconds of an
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  Speaker 4: answer from Sean Payton, we're back.
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  Speaker 2: No, we don't get to do any of that, and
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  Speaker 2: so there's a process relative to league relative.
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  Speaker 4: To you get two in the first three seconds, we
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  Speaker 4: are so believing back. That is, of course, is Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton talking about Jonathan Cooper, which we'll get to in
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  Speaker 4: a second. I do want to say this to you, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: I woke up at four o'clock today and I've been
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  Speaker 4: awake ever since. I'm really tired of this. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it's still happening to you, but it's still
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  Speaker 4: happening to me. Yep, every day, four.
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  Speaker 5: Or fifteen this morning and then I went back to sleep,
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  Speaker 5: same thing. And I know we've talked about it on
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  Speaker 5: the show, and I know there are other people who
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  Speaker 5: listen to the show, same thing, early morning wake up
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  Speaker 5: call for no apparent reason.
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  Speaker 4: Most I had one today.
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  Speaker 3: I was about a five. Today was like five twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: H see, I would that's kill four.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that that's like, that's like sleeping in.
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  Speaker 4: So Sean Payton's talking about Jonathan Cooper. And look, there's
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  Speaker 4: a there's a legal process that he said he thinks
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  Speaker 4: is gonna get resolved sooner rather than later, is the
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  Speaker 4: way that he put it yesterday. Now, Jonathan Cooper's a
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  Speaker 4: giant piece to this team, Like this is this is
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  Speaker 4: a massive story. Whatever comes out of this court case. Guys,
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  Speaker 4: he's got twenty seven sacks in the last three years.
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  Speaker 4: That's not some okay player. That's a very, very good
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  Speaker 4: player on your team. The question is, and one of
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  Speaker 4: the things I was wondering, is how is this team
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  Speaker 4: going to handle it? If you really look at since
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton's been here, they haven't had legal troubles on
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  Speaker 4: this team. They've had like Josh Reynolds was involved in
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  Speaker 4: a shooting, but he was the victim of the shooting.
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  Speaker 4: They've had speeding tickets, They've had things like that. They've
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  Speaker 4: never had court cases, at least to my knowledge yet,
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  Speaker 4: especially for a big time player. And I was curious
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  Speaker 4: to see how they and this new ownership group handles it.
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  Speaker 4: And it looks like they're letting the legal process play out,
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  Speaker 4: which is fine. But Nelly, can you give me two
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  Speaker 4: clips here? Let's start with cut four first. Here's his
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  Speaker 4: answer on if he's worried about Jonathan Cooper being a distraction. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: hang on, hang on, he needs to go find it.
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  Speaker 4: But again, that's one of the things I was wondering,
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  Speaker 4: is Sean Payton does not feel like somebody who wants
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  Speaker 4: distractions around his you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, how do you know how to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: that distraction? Brett? How's that you address it on day
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  Speaker 3: one and you don't bring it up again.
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  Speaker 4: True.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be a distraction if
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  Speaker 3: if people don't keep asking about it.
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  Speaker 5: Anymore, they will people keep asking unless there's new information.
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  Speaker 3: Information, Yeah, if that comes out, But until then you
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  Speaker 3: address it day one, you say we're not talking about
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  Speaker 3: it anymore until something new comes out, and you go
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  Speaker 3: from there.
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  Speaker 4: Uh. So here's Sean Payton. Is he worried about Cooper
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  Speaker 4: being a distraction? See?
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's the answer he is. Uh, can Cooper come
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  Speaker 4: back without really practicing?
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  Speaker 5: We'll get back down that when my computer's running really
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  Speaker 5: slow today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's you know, I'll tell you what's the
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  Speaker 4: distraction this this computer? Well, i'll tell you this. Both
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  Speaker 4: of those answers are like nothing, Okay, go ahead. Here's
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  Speaker 4: his answer, not that I'm aware of. So there you go,
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  Speaker 4: just two quick answers to that. So I think anything
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  Speaker 4: that you asked him about Jonathan Cooper after this is
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  Speaker 4: probably going to be just like that. But let me
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  Speaker 4: tell you, guys, something a number I saw yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: I think the key to the Broncos season. If you
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  Speaker 4: had to guess what was the Broncos three and out
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  Speaker 4: rate last year? From a percentage standpoint, it was.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty I bet it what I took, I don't know significant.
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  Speaker 4: There were twenty ninth in the NFL. Wow, a quarter
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  Speaker 4: of their drives and in a three and out. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So the only teams worse than that were the Titans,
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  Speaker 4: the Browns, and you'll, I don't think you'll ever guess
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  Speaker 4: the worst team the league. Just try one guess?
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, well, I know, will You're That's why I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to go off script.
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  Speaker 4: Philly, Oh Philly. Wow, Philly had twenty eight percent of.
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  Speaker 3: The team, and then two crap teams are.
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  Speaker 4: Right around you. But I think the more I think
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  Speaker 4: about it, it's like, oh, well that's why AJ Brown
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  Speaker 4: was pissed. Okay, got it. But twenty five percent of
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  Speaker 4: your drives ending in a three and out cannot happen. Can't.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to be a team that takes another
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  Speaker 4: step here, that's got to be the number that changes
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  Speaker 4: sustained drives because all it takes me back to VIC
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  Speaker 4: is thirty three yard line. AFC Championship game. Move the
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  Speaker 4: chains one time, you're getting points and maybe that's enough
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  Speaker 4: to send you to a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Hell game? Three yards? Yeah, three yards? Five yards wasn't
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  Speaker 5: asking for much. Again, that's the play that the series
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna relifvet forever is the series which you have
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  Speaker 5: the ball in the thirty three yard line.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one. The thing is, do you put that
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  Speaker 4: more on inability to run the football effectively or Bonix
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  Speaker 4: isn't good enough? I'm third down? Well, that wasn't both.
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  Speaker 4: That was Jared Stidtem And I'm not saying in that
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  Speaker 4: specific drive, but twenty five percent ending in three and
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  Speaker 4: out probably a little both. I think it's a commination.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's maybe play calling, maybe plays
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  Speaker 5: preceding that leads you to that situation.
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, VIC, play calling is going
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  Speaker 3: to figure into that as well, because what the what
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  Speaker 3: are the players you're calling on first and second down
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  Speaker 3: to put yourself in a third and long with a
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  Speaker 3: difficult chance of succeeding?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I'd have to go back and look at
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  Speaker 3: every single three and out drive and try to determine
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  Speaker 3: do they have a pattern? Is it run first?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Past second run round to me, what comes up the
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  Speaker 3: most and how do you change that?
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  Speaker 4: It's I think a lot of it is getting into
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  Speaker 4: third manageable positions. The funny thing is, I mean, Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton is from the school of if it's on fourth down,
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  Speaker 4: he is willing to go for it, like he is
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  Speaker 4: no problem rolling the dice.
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  Speaker 5: But yesterday he confirmed that Seth Wickersham. Uh that tidbit
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  Speaker 5: in the article about him pulling up the fake punt. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he wanted to pull up that fake punt against Buffalo
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  Speaker 5: and it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, he'll take risks. You're damn right, he'll take risks,
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  Speaker 4: you say, moj not like Dan Campbell, And I get that.
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  Speaker 4: He's probably the most aggressive coach on fourth down in
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  Speaker 4: history as far as just frequencying going for it. But
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton's mentor true like, that's that's who he learned
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  Speaker 4: his true from, was Sean Payton. And he's acknowledged part
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  Speaker 4: of the reason why he goes for it on fourth
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  Speaker 4: down so often is because Sean Payton. That's how he operated.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the answer. By the way, what Vick's talking
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  Speaker 4: about the fake punt and if you guys aren't aware.
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  Speaker 4: In the Seth Wickersham article where he's following him around
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  Speaker 4: during the playoffs, the Broncos go three and out the
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  Speaker 4: first drive of overtime against the Buffalo Bills, and Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton's like, I'm not giving the football back to Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 4: He calls a fake punt on his own thirty eight
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  Speaker 4: yard line on fourth and eleven, only to be overruled
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  Speaker 4: by Tyler Badey, who goes, ah, ticket, we ain't doing kicket.
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  Speaker 4: Here's his answer on that, you were.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna fake punt fourth and eleven?
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: So I golf with Josh this summer one afternoon. He
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  Speaker 2: was my partner. We won.
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  Speaker 3: Sean, can I finish?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry?
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  Speaker 2: And that might just be an acoustics issue here. In
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  Speaker 2: the first playoff game in Buffalo, I remember we had
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  Speaker 2: run a fake punt in that game.
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  Speaker 4: It was the first half.
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  Speaker 2: We just wanted something late in the game. We've got
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  Speaker 2: the lead and we aren't able to get the first down.
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  Speaker 2: And we've kind of seen this script, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: a to a player, and this is a great sign
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  Speaker 2: of respect for you know, I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: better elite quarterbacks in our league that can and we
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  Speaker 2: looked at it again in this playoff game. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if we were in that position where we're punting in
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  Speaker 2: a field goal is gonna win it. And I'll be darned,
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  Speaker 2: you know we were in that position.
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  Speaker 3: All right, that's the front.
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  Speaker 4: That's good. There's a lot of pauses in there. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of I was we get the picture, all right?
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  Speaker 4: You didn't want to give it, Josh?
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  Speaker 3: I was waiting, still going, he's still going.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I felt real good about getting fourteen yards
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to now we can did and punt it out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, we got it.
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  Speaker 3: We got I was sitting here with my teeth in
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  Speaker 3: my mouth saying, there's got to be some sort of
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  Speaker 3: explanation you're gonna come up with for letting this droll.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what it was. Josh Allen was really good inside
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  Speaker 4: the turnovers, was playing really well, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to give him a chance to win the game. There
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  Speaker 4: you go, bum Okay, yeah, but that wasn't I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I got it.
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  Speaker 3: I got it.
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  Speaker 5: What's crazy about it? It wasn't fourth and two, it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't fourth and three, It was fourth and fourteen.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was fourth and that was fourth and eleven? Yeah? Still,
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  Speaker 4: I mean eleven? Yeah, I guess. Look, here's what I guess.
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  Speaker 4: I do know. The fake punt wasn't gonna be a run.
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  Speaker 4: So like, if we're gonna throw the football, I guess
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if it's six yards, eleven yards, or
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  Speaker 4: fifteen yards. We're putting it out there. Now. The funny
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  Speaker 4: thing about that, did somebody pull on us? I don't
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  Speaker 4: know who this was, Nelly. Can I hear the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of this again when he starts to answer the question
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  Speaker 4: and somebody's like, yeah, one other thing.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna fake punt fourth and eleven?
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: So I golf with Josh this summer one afternoon. He
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  Speaker 2: was my partner. We won sean, Ye, can I finish?
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  Speaker 3: What was that? I don't know, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what. Everybody wants a piece. I don't know. Man.
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  Speaker 5: That's why press conferences are the worst, because everybody's in
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  Speaker 5: a race to ask a question, and you don't know
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  Speaker 5: when somebody's done with their story and their comment.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have a little grace here, Vic And that might
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  Speaker 2: just be an acoustics issue here, right, But he.
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  Speaker 4: Said, I played with Josh last summer. There's more to
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  Speaker 4: this than he goes. Yeah, but Sean, everybody's let's have
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  Speaker 4: a little grace. Everybody's out of practice. Okay, you're out
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  Speaker 4: of practice.
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  Speaker 3: This this is the start of this is the start
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  Speaker 3: of camphor reporters to let have some grace, let them
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  Speaker 3: get back into their flow.
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  Speaker 4: But that was just listening. Understood. That's all you had
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  Speaker 4: to do, is understood. All right?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, you have to understand though where it's set up
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  Speaker 5: over there. Sometimes you can't even hear what they're saying
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  Speaker 5: because you're so far away. It's hard to pick up
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  Speaker 5: what they're saying. So you're just waiting for their mouths
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  Speaker 5: to stop moving.
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  Speaker 4: Do you follow me?
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  Speaker 5: So you'll see tomorrow, you'll see when we go out
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  Speaker 5: there tomorrow, you'll see it's a newsful.
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  Speaker 4: So why would you ask a question if you can't
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  Speaker 4: even hear what he's gonna answer to your question. Well,
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  Speaker 4: so you go back and listen later.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes it trails off. Sometimes you're like twenty feet away.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna offer some grace there. I have no
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  Speaker 5: idea what the circumstances. Well, that's not the story anyway.
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  Speaker 5: The story is his answer. The story is that he
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  Speaker 5: takes pride in being that kind of risk taker in
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  Speaker 5: that kind of setup.
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  Speaker 4: And was that overtime or the fourth quarter that's overtime.
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  Speaker 5: In the overtime of a divisional playoff game.
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  Speaker 4: No, if that's an incomplete pass, you basically are like,
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  Speaker 4: we lose, it's over.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember this is a guy. I know this
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  Speaker 4: has been beaten to death, but it's worth mentioning. Again,
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  Speaker 4: like Mosu not as aggressive as Dan Campbell. He didn't
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  Speaker 4: onside kise to start. Was it the second half or
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  Speaker 4: start of the game of the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: That was the game?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 3: No, what was the second half?
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  Speaker 4: I think it was second half? Right, Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 4: that's pretty ballsy.
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  Speaker 3: It's big time.
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  Speaker 4: The bigger thing in that is and I don't blame
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  Speaker 4: him for the way it was the flow of the game.
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  Speaker 4: And this is Vick. You always talk about this when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to analytics. It's they don't factor in what's
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  Speaker 4: the feel of the game, what's the weather, what's this?
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  Speaker 4: What's that is Josh Allen on? Is he off? Is
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  Speaker 4: my offense playing well? They not? I don't blame him
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  Speaker 4: because the flow of the game would make sense of
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to give the ball back to Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allen because the only way we get this ball back
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  Speaker 4: is by a turnover, and that's what it got one.
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  Speaker 4: But he's like, they have four hundred and fifty yards
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  Speaker 4: of offense, why would I give them the ball back.
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  Speaker 4: It's still pretty crazy that that team, and that the
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  Speaker 4: head coach of that team chose I'm going to trust
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  Speaker 4: a fake punt over. My defense has carried us all year.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, though, I have a great degree of
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  Speaker 5: respect for someone whose belief system, who understands the moment
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  Speaker 5: and whether it's right or wrong. At least you had
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  Speaker 5: the cole Jones to pull up Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I love a coach like that, like that's not afraid
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  Speaker 4: to stand in front of the mic and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I made the call. It didn't work. I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was best for us, sorry, because you could play the
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  Speaker 4: sort of coward cross your fingers and hope everything goes well. Game.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot more audio from Sean Payton that we'll
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  Speaker 4: get to as we go along today. Reminders to you guys,
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  Speaker 4: we have Garth Brooks tickets that we're giving away because
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  Speaker 4: he's coming to Ballerina on September fourth and fifth, and
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  Speaker 4: all I can tell you is listen to Legwall's interview
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  Speaker 4: at nine o'clock. That'll be very, very important and key
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  Speaker 4: in trying to win these tickets.
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  Speaker 3: Thank goodness for Jaquan, Oh, thank you. All I can
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  Speaker 3: think of is thank goodness for Jay Kwan. I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 3: you know what. And I obviously did not hear the
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  Speaker 3: reaction in Buffalo. Huh, but I'm sure they were in
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo as that was a catch. They're still reacting in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they are, But I'm saying Josh Allen had
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  Speaker 3: a hell of a game. Outside all the frigging turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: the guy played his butt off.
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  Speaker 4: It reminded me of when Rory won the Masters a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, and I said he was amazing
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  Speaker 4: except when he was absolutely terrible, totallyke But you just said, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: what was I gonna say? You're talking about Jay Kwan
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  Speaker 4: making the pick?
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  Speaker 3: Catch?
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  Speaker 4: Uh can catch catch? Pick? It was a catch pick? Oh, oh,
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  Speaker 4: here's what it is. If he doesn't, let's say that's
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  Speaker 4: a catch and that's not an interception and the Broncos lose.
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  Speaker 4: Does Bonnicks's ankle need work? Oh, that's well. The season's
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  Speaker 4: over though, But would they would he know?
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  Speaker 3: Oh you're saying, is there something in there lingering? But
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  Speaker 3: he just didn't know what. Yeah, he was a step
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  Speaker 3: wrong or.
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  Speaker 4: Something way right.
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  Speaker 5: The injury took place in this series thereafter, so are
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  Speaker 5: you saying that?
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  Speaker 4: But hey, hand hand was his?
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  Speaker 3: Was it like a shoelace? Was it like a shoelace
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  Speaker 3: that's ready to snap? You just don't know, yes, exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe he goes the entire offseason and everything's fine,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: and then he gets a training camp and we don't know. Well,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: that's I'm asking. Maybe it saved you some trouble of
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: him missing like the first half of the season. Who knows,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: so extra thank you to Jae Kwan. We're gonna get
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: it out the way. Let's just get it out of
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: the way. Three zero three five oh four oh nine.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Last thing I can sort of understand his thinking on that, like, look,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: he's having such a great game and our defense has
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: been getting gassed late in this contest. What are better
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: odds converting on the fourth and eleven fake punt or
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: or stopping Josh Allen the Bills from driving down the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: field and getting into field goal range and booting it
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: on us.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: The answer is trusting Jaquan to make a miracle flack.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: But you understand if that's the year's now, that that
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: play will still be debated. Buffalo fans will say that
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: was a catch. Yeah, Bronco fans will say that's a pick.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: And I still, I still to this day, have no
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: idea what it was. I'm going with with the result,
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: but I'm not joking. Had they called that a catch,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: I would not have argued it. I would not have
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: laid an argument out for it. I would say, oh, okay,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: controlled it to the ground and then had it stolen
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: from him.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: To this day, I don't know what it was history.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to watch it one more time. I've watched
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: it a thousand times. Okay, here's history is written by
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the victors. It is not viclimbardies.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my cization, my Roman civilization wrote a lot of history.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Brother, they did.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Dude, that's.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: A pick. I don't know.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. It was a freaking great throw.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: They both have hands on the ball, he's on the ground,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: he rolls over and McMillan takes the ball out of
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: his hands out of Cook's hands.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but does it the rollover constitute? Is the catch?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: He's round if you're jostling, if you're jostling for the
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: ball at that time, if.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: What evidence of Joscelyn is there?
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Though the bull could move limit But the ball moved
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: a little bit when it hit the ground.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: They both had their hands on the Actually it was
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: underthrown a tiny bit.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: So here's what happens. Here's the call. I don't even
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: have to look at the video. I can do this
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: from memory. They go to the ground, they both got
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: hands on it. When when who is the receiver for
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Buffalo Brandon Cook's. When Brandon Cooks hits the ground, the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: ball pops up for a second. And when that happens,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: that's not completing the process of the catch because you're
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: going to the ground with the ball. That means the
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: ball's up for grabs, doesn't hit the ground. Ja Kwon
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: leaves with it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: If it was the other way around, though, I guarantee
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: you we'd still be to this day screaming.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: We started this whole segment talking about the fake punt
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: that they're gonna throw out there. We never answered this
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: aspect of the question. Has anyone ever asked Tyler Biday
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: why he decided not.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: To do it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: That's to me, that's the story. To have the story
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: he owns.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: To actually overturn story is for a little use back
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: to come in and say, to overrule.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Let's make a mistake a dictator of a head coach
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in the most crucial moment of the season when he
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: is convinced the play is gonna work and get all
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: that in just a second stick around. That's exactly.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's all right, where is where are these
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: not just the margins? Where are these areas that hey,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: let's not kid ourselves. We have to improve in these
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: specific areas. And so the best way to get better
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: in those one score games is find your way, not
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in his many. And I mean that like like I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to chase that whatever of thirteen again. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: know you'd like to not being as many.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: It's the deal. Most Why are you just yelling at
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: me while he was talking well to me?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It's because he uh, he keeps repeating that same mantra
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: all throughout the course of the offseason. He damn well
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: knows that they could have the script flipped flipped on
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: these one score games, So he's making it a point
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: of emphasis and has been since since the next press
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: conference after they lost.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Here's the weirdest part to their season last year, And God,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I went down this rabbit hole in the appetizer just
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: thinking about this is when you have deficits late in
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: the game and that you need to turn. You have
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to be perfect, and god, where the Bronco's perfect a
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: lot last year when that mattered, and that's so hard
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: to replicate.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: You also have to be in that sort of poetic
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: flow state, yeah, where everything you do seems to work
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: and you're just free wheeling at times. You know how
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton mentions.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Street ball a lot. Yeah, he doesn't like street ball.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson played street ball, but on occasion he'll call some.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Plays for bo to play street ball. Doesn't it feel
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: like a lot of that is street ball when they're
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: just towards the end of a game. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: and here's the thing, man, Like the Broncos were eight
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: and two through November sixth, You got to mid November,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: that was an eight and two football team, And I
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: still remember at that time, I'm like, I honestly don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: know how good this team is. I really don't because
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: when you look at the way that they did it. It
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: was a twenty to twelve win over Tennessee. They had
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a good game against Cincinnati, but Cincinnati was without Joe Burrow.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: They needed eighteen points in the fourth quarter to beat
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Philly twenty one to seventeen. That sloppy mess against the Jets.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: In London, they scored thirty three points in the fourth
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: quarter against the Giants, which I still can't get over, Like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that's the most that's the most bizarre thing I've ever
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: said out loud, that a football team scored thirty three
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: points in the fourth quarter to win thirty three to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: thirty two.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Well, it's the no points through three quarters and then
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: thirty third, thirty third, thirty three in the fourth quarter
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: to win, But then insane.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: The week after that, if you guys remember, they played
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: great against Dallas they beat them forty four to twenty four.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: The week after that was Houston. They won eighteen to fifteen,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: which I can kind of give them a pass four
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: because Houston's defense we all know was excellent, but the
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Broncos still needed eleven of the eighteen points in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter, and then that following week they beat Vegas.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Do you guys remember this game ten to seven to
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Vegas and you're just sitting there, like, how do they
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: keep doing it? It's the it's the the Jesse Pinkman
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: breaking bad, Like they can't keep getting away with it,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: like that thing.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I remember looking at you guys and going, well, the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: record says that they're a good football team.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they weren't good. We knew they were good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but my eyeballs are telling me what were they?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Number one in the air? Their chiny chin chin at times.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But the problem becomes good teams do that. It's just
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: it's just weird.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: But the problem becomes, to Sean Payton's credit, if that
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: is the way that your team operates, you know what
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: throws all of that out of whack? What ruins a
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: game for you? And now you don't win anymore. A
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: defensive lineman gets his hand up with the line of
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: scrimmage and tips the ball in the air and he
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: gets picked off. Come back over. That's it, no chance
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: to win anymore. Like you're that close in the margins
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: of losing. I mean, I told you guys yesterday. They
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: build in fifteen games last year, fifteen and it's just
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you're you're playing with too much fire.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: For those who did not hear you say that, in
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the history of the National Football League as long as
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: we can remember, or a team that's trailed at least
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: fifteen times during the course of a season, nobody's got
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: into eleven wins, nobody's gotten to eleven wins, and they
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: got the fourteen fourteen. So that's why Vic, That's why
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton, I'm sure, just keeps emphasizing this time and
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: time again.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Well, Patrick Certan two days ago when he went up
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: to the mic, he said the gold the season is
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: for the team to get off to a fast start.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: I wonder if he was referring to that rather than
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: the start of the season.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I got you, Pat, there are a few teams
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: that could have Super Bowl or bust mentality going into
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the season with how close you got last year?
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Is that how you at this group feels.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, our expectations are pretty high, but you know, we
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: just gonna take it week by week. No, obviously that's
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: the mango, but you know, we gotta it. Starts right
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: here in training camp, starts through early on in the season.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I think our main focus is to start off fast,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: start off you know, hot and early, so that way
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: we could prepare ourselves to get, you know, to that stage.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah, he meant the season. Yeah, he meant the season.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: And look the Broncos the first two years. I think
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: they started one and two in each of the last
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: two seasons. And if you do that this year, then
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: your next three games are even more difficult, and then
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: who knows what happens. It's all that matters. Now we
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: can get back to this in a second. I do
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: want to bring up another story, and I just read
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: this on ESPN this morning, and it's the NBA's investigation
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: into the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard. Do you guys remember
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: what Brian Winhors told us, by the way, about Peyton
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Watson and the Clippers.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he said that's being held up because the Clippers
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: got their own issues that they can't free up the money.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: He's like, I'm basically ruling the Clippers out of that
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: because they don't even know if Kawhi is traded or not.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: So you can't really make moves if you don't know
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: that amount of salary is there on your roster or not.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: But the story says that this could drag into twenty
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: twenty seven if the parties don't agree on the findings
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: or any proposed settlement that involves punishing the team. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: we've talked about the reasons why this might be be
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: being held up Number one, that I don't think the NFL,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: or sorry, the NBA, wants to acknowledge this cheating scandal,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: because that's what it is. I mean, think about it
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: this way, guys, the pickle that the Nuggets find themselves
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: in this offseason of trying to get under the second
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: apron but keep Peyton Watson and keep Spencer Jones, but
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: let go of Tim Hardaway Junior. What if they've just
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: told Peyton Watson signed a two year, eight million dollar
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: deal and we'll give you forty million under the table. Somehow,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: that's straight up cheating like that cheat. That is as
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: cheating as cheating gets. Because we all know the punitive
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: nature of being in these aprons and luxury taxes and
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: what it does to your roster. If the clip are
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: circumventing that, that's a gigantic scandal. But does the NBA
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: number one want to open themselves up to him going
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: full Raliota and goodfellas and start pointing fingers at people saying, well,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: what are they doing? And they're doing That's one thing.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Me here's the other thing. Anybody who owns a professional
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: sporting franchise is a rich person. It's impossible not to be.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: You have to be insanely rich. But nobody is as
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: rich as Steve Balmer is rich, and I think the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: money that he has scares the hell out of that league.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: You know what he has in his pocket well, net
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: worthwise fifteenth richest man in the world, one hundred and
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: twenty five billion dollars. Jeez, Louise, you don't think he's
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: got some kick ass lawyers that he couldn't wait to
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: ode leash it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: It feels like he's being singled out. I'm sure he does.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: And I was looking on the only other owner, ironically,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: the only other owner that is above him that I saw,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: that owns a professional sporting franchise, the Walton's. That's it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: The Denver Broncos owners are the only ones that are
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: richer than Steve Balmer that I saw. I don't think
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: they're richer.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think they are right now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Well, according to this note, we're not richer than one
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five million billion.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: This is Forbes. Steve Balmer's right here, Moser at fifteen,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: who's that? And who's that?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: At number thirteen is what Rob Walton in family? It says, oh,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: well if you include the entire family. Sure, well one
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: it says Rob Walton family. The other says Jim Walton
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: in family at fourteen.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Either either either way, the point is this though Vicki Baumber,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: he loves his team, does he not? He loves his
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: new arena.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, seventeen is Alice Walton. Walton's everywhere.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Listen if he.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's something. I don't know how this is
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: going to go down, but I don't think he wants
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to lose the franchise. So Silver may say something along
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the lines that we have to punish it. That's if
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: they find them guilty for whatever reason.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: But what if Balmer's like, take me to court, try it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Because here's the thing when Donald.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Because the thing is they can take his franchise away
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: from him, they can force his they can force a
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: court battle. Well, they forced Donald Sterling.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: To already happened for that franchise. Once Donald hang on
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: hang on, you need to have the collective of your
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: ownership group basically all decide this guy's out right. That's
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: what happened with Donald Sterling. It's not the commissioner did
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: not get rid of Donald Sterling. Yeah, Donald Sterling, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: looked it up, had four billion dollars. He's about one
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty short of what Steve Bomber has. I'm
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: not even sure if you pulled the money of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: owners in the NBA altogether, do they get to Steve Bamer.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I think that's what scares him.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Bottom line, for this whole investigation, it sounds to me
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: like the NBA's basically come to the table and said,
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: all right, listen, can one of you guys just admit
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: wrongdoing so he can get this over with. Can somebody
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: just be the adult in the room step to the
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: table and say we messed up. They're waiting for someone
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: to make that admission.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's true, Vic. But if you make the
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: admission of we cheated, then it comes with a pretty
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: punitive price, and maybe Steve Balmer's not willing to eat
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the punishment. Maybe it maybe that's why they're talking about
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: if they can't come to an agreement.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but I don't. I think the bottom line would
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: be he doesn't want to lose his franchise or risk
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: losing it somehow.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: In the in respect to Peyton Watson, think about how
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: much bad luck he's had in this offseason. When I
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: say bad luck, think about this, all right. So the
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: one team that really wanted him, I thought the Lakers,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: they dealt with their own issues because Lebron left.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: They signed Walker Kessler and they ran out of money.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: The Clippers want him, but they can't pull the trigger
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: because of this damn Kawhi Leonard.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then any.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Thoughts of working with other teams to open up the
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: net of availability, it went away as soon as Spencer
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Jones contract was matched, because now it put the the
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Nuggets in the second apron and it sort of limited
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: who they could talk to. So every every move that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: been made has sort of hurt Peyton Watson's negotiation tactics
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: in this offseason.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and plus, being restricted free agent is
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: also tough because you don't want to send out an
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: off or just have somebody else match it, you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: that sort of thing.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I keep hearing other teams joining the fold By the way,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: other teams that could be interested in signing trades we'll see.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, you hear a lot of teams. Cleveland supposedly
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: has interest.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Now we'll see.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You know, the more I think about it, and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: know that the Nuggets want a backup guard, need another
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: ball handler, the only way they can make a sign
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and trade happen for that is that they would have
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: to still unloosen some salary. They have to send salary out,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: not just Peyton Watson, it'd have to be somebody else.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: The ideal deal out there would be for them to
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: send Peyton in a sign and trade and attach another
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: contract with him Zeke if it's possible.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: But if that's the case, then the other team is
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: probably saying, yeah, you know that pick that we're going
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: to send you back for Peyton Watson not happen any Well,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: that's what you give up then, Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: So then basically you get virtually nothing for Peyton Watson,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: even though he's an asset. Players swap right, right, right,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: But you're also able to unload a contract that's going
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: to keep you from the Apron.
• 32:46
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• 33:11
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• 33:14
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• 33:17
  Speaker 3: My wife finds you guys annoying. I obviously love you.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: She's listening.
• 33:21
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• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Any chance for a birthday shout out to Melissa to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: change her mind. No, Melissa, you get nothing from us.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, No. You're lucky. You're lucky of
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: good taste in men.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: You're lucky.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: You're lucky. You have a ring on is what I'm guessing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Knocking you lose.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Happy birthday, wedding.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Anniversary, wedding.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Did you guys happen to see the bodycam footage of
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Tony Romo's field sobriety test? I was wild? So you
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: did watch it? Vic? Most? Did you watch it?
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Yep?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Look, I get nothing to say other than this. When
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: somebody asks you to do a field sobriety test, and
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: this is what football does your body, you say, hang on,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I have to stretch first. The amount of stretching Romo
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: did before, just walking heel toe, heel toe. I was like,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: is it is it that bad? Is that what your
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: body actually feels like after a career in football. We
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: need to do a test to see if you can
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: walk straight? And he goes, I need to limber up
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: for a second. Think he's trying to buy some time.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe could be, but I don't know, man.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I we just talked yesterday when Jason Witten came back
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: from the Monday Night Football booth and played another year.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: The sounds he had to make when he just got
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: out of bed in the morning, it had to be
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: like just getting out of bed was ah so much pain?
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: It had to be bro I get out of bed
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: with pain. Every single day. There's pain somewhere. Pain, pain
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: finds me. I'm in pain right now. Everyday pain. There's
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: some sort of pain. Do you live with a pain?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: No? I have pain, but I can't fathom the level
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: of pain that like Adjason Witten felt that last year
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: in the NFL, it must.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Have been excruciating. But when she asked him, do you
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: have any head injuries? Do you have you had any?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And he pauses, there, Uh.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: What do you mean? Concussions? Plenty?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony Romo vic When you look at his career,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: he got blown up pretty hard. He was blown up
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: many times. I mean, every quarterback gets blown up, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I remember Tony Romo taking some really big, big big shots.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Speaking of quarterbacks, kind of quarterback here, I'm just gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: do the easiest thing that is possible to do. If
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: you're a radio host in Denver and you see this news,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: are the Broncos gonna sign Taysom Hill? Now I saw
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: that and I thought the same exact thing. I mean,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: it's it's the easiest thing in the world.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't say he was done with football.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: He was just done with New Orleans. Correct?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Are you bringing you in a thirty five year old
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Swiss army knife?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Why not? Are you let me ask you this question.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Why not? I'm not even kidding taste.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I suppose it's because I don't know what he has
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: left in the tank. I suppose what do you have
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: to lose? You sign him to a team friendly deal.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: He plays for the coach that started his career with.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: They trust each other.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Why not? You know what you wouldn't have to do
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: with Taysom Hill is keep a third quarterback on the roster.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Dude, if they signed Taysom Hill. If they signed Taysom Hill,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: that is such a good point, Brett. Then you start
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: to wonder if Jared Stidham survives training camp.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Well, remember, Taysom wasn't exactly I don't even think he
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: was the backup.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: No, he like he used him in certain packaging packages.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: But but here's the thing. I love Taysom Hill. I've
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: always loved He's always been one of my favorite players.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: How many guys, truly, in the history of the league
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: play quarterback, running back, tight end, wide receiver, special teams,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: return kicks like he does everything does actually kick field goals.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Here's another friend of mine just reminded me. Did you
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: guys know that Taysom Hill's brother and their family live
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: here in Denver and he's been here several times?
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Oh? Really? Yeah, so he has family here. How do
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: you know that?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Who told you that?
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I have information on that. I'm telling you right now.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think there is absolutely no risk in signing him,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: and I think he could help he does.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: You also have a man crush on him?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: That is true?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every spot. Look, I know that they have a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: long history and nobody would know how to use him
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: better than Sean Payton and perhaps Davis web Now, but
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: if you're talking about a thirty five year old Swiss
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: army knife, and every every roster spot is incredibly valuable
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, every single spot.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. You put Taysom Hill in there,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: and then he gets your own push push going on.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: How about that? Give me one of those, give me
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: something on fourth and one. Put him in some sort
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: of wildcat. Let him do it like I not only
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: do I w I now expect that move I do too.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: It just makes too much sense. I totally agree with you.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: He goes out with class in New Orleans, Drew Brees
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: like voiced over a goodbye video.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: He's very highly respected.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Obviously, I wonder why I took this long to make
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: that happen. So wait, can you go back? So he
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: retired from New Orleans? Was he a free agent?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Does New Orleans own his rights? No?
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: No, he's he's free free.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a free age.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: He didn't retire, he just said he's not going back.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: To the same I think, what happy if you remember
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: he got hurt and I think he's thirty five years
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: old in this answer, Like, yeah, I think we're good now.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I think that's it. And for him, at thirty five,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: you probably only got a couple of years left. We're
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: better for you to go in your twilight years than
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: the guy you're most familiar with in a town that
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: you have family in. You know what I mean. And this,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: if they do sign Taysom Hill, I want to make
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: something clear, guys, that is not because he's taking over
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: what Stidham does. I don't think that's it at all.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's just that you can use him in
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: a number of different ways.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: You would be digging into the old New Orleans barrel again.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: This one I'm fine with. Well, to be honest, has
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: there been a New Orleans guy that he signed that
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: has been an absolute dud? I mean, as far as
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: somebody that you know you're.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Willing to actually it started with Will LUTs and he's
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: been great ivan Will LUTs has been great.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: But Humphrey has been there over and over again, and
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: it's like, look, I'm not.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: A huge audu off. He's up line coach from New Orleans.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: He's brought in a bunch of coach as well. I
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: mean he fired Joe Lombardi.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to think though Vicker of duds that
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the Broncos have had overall of all the like the
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: free agent signings. Drake Greenlaw was a dud only because
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: he can't stay andre on the field, So we'll call
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: that a dud. Every other free agent signing the last
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: three years, for it's been, they've been pretty damn good.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: No, I think even with the thesmotion would call it
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: the man crush that I have on Taysom Hill. Taysom
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Hill would not be He's not better at tight end
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: than Evan Ingram Is. Okay, that's also not the case.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I just think versatility is a hell of an asset
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: and if nothing else, nobody thinks about this as a fan,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: special teams is incredibly important. How about this, If Taysom
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Hill is the upback on a fake punt on fourth
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: and eleven in over time of the divisional playoffs and
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: you don't want to give the ball back to to
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen if you're going to run a fake punt pass,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I like the idea of him doing it. That's trying
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: to find a guy.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Dam here's one too. Randy Gregory, Yeah, that.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Was that was a bit of a free Peyton though,
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was, but that was Sean, I should say
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: a bit of a dud. Yeah, Gregory was the worst
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: one I think since George Peyton's gotten here, other than
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: obviously like Russell Wilson or something right that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, when you have to buy out ninety
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: three million dollars, I would say that's a bad.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: But when you're you're if you just ignore the obvious.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I think Randy Gregory is probably next on that list
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: because he didn't get paid, you know, small amount of
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: money and paid a lot of money and just didn't
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: work three h three five four nine two five. But
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I sounds like you guys are with me. If Taysom
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Hill's going anywhere, it feels like it's here. Hey.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I was watching yesterday Patrick Mahomes some video of Patrick
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Mahomes a practice. He was miked up and he was
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: throwing some pat He's fine, guys, He's fine.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: He's fine.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Says he's stronger than he has ever been. He's gonna
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: be playing in that opener.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: All this thought about, oh, they're gonna work him in slowly.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: He's fine.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: These these surgeries now they're just you know, outside of Mosia,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: who just is a slow healer. The ability for these
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: guys to come back from these major surgeries never ceases
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: to amaze how quickly they can do it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Response, Oh, number one, I don't need to cut strays
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: to make this a better program.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: It makes the point a better point.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: If you, if you use you, If you want to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: stick it to somebody, stick it to that Melissa's wife
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: who hates us, stick.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: It to her.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Number two. Apparently he'd get the guy says, I don't
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: know his name, but he says, she.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Doesn't hate us, she just finds it finds us annoying.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I would find us annoying.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: To No, he said, thank y, she hates you even
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: more now, that's what he said, she hates you even
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: more now. Number two, I heeled up nicely from this
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: blown Achilles. And if you were for years no no, no, bro,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: no bro.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: You were in that scooter at like six months in
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: my tail.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Pipe I was doing I was doing cartwheels in six months.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Bunch of hogwash again.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: I will pay money to see you do a cartwheel
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: right now. I'll pay money. Hit me up on cameo.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: You know what you should? You know what moser on?
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: If I went to cameo, vict go to camps cash money.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Yes it moser. Let me see a full cartwheel. Would
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: you be able to pull it off?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I think I probably would, but then you'd put it
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: on the innerwebs and I wouldn't want that. So no,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: You're prostituting himself, just being like you want cartwheel? Pay up, buddy,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: whatever you want.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: You know I make I make such a mockery of
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: him on a daily basis. He's now put a paywall
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: in front of it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: It's janius.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Oh you want to make fun of me some more?
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Pay up first, all right, bag, After this