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Sound Off 970 - GRAND OPENING/GRAND CLOSING For Sami Zayn + A Rant On Triple H Comments · Solomonster Sounds Off

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  Speaker 1: I spoke to my lawyer from Leatham. Just FYI. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: at the DJ is former Leatham lawyers, so on that
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  Speaker 1: that side will be helpful.
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  Speaker 2: SEC.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it's SEC. But that's just a penalty as
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  Speaker 1: it relates to everything else. Yes, we can indemnify you,
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  Speaker 1: and we will. If it's criminal. Of course, you can't
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  Speaker 1: stop criminal. But this is not criminal. Call me when
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  Speaker 1: you get a chance.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's ten thirteen. A very good meeting with Ari
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  Speaker 3: and company, and I think it probably is the best
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  Speaker 3: thing to go forward with the deal with Ari. It
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  Speaker 3: solves a lot of problems I got, you know, again, together,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a stronger situation than I had one
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  Speaker 3: of us on our own. But I'm pretty sure that's
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  Speaker 3: the way I want to go now. It's easier, faster,
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  Speaker 3: and all that other kind of stuff. So let's talk
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  Speaker 3: in the morning and uh, and I didn't commit to Ari,
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  Speaker 3: but let's talk in the morning and h and go. Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much, sorry calling you so late. We
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  Speaker 3: just broke up what I just broke up with or
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  Speaker 3: he was like an hour ago he left or something.
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  Speaker 3: And Linda, brother, Stephanie and I and Nick we're talking,
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  Speaker 3: So we just broke that up, so we'll talk in
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  Speaker 3: the morning. Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: It's business time, baby you. I'm listening to solo monster sounds.
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  Speaker 2: I love your mama monster dude. I want your souldier.
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  Speaker 3: You got grown ass rustlers in the back going on Twitter?
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  Speaker 2: Come over here? Is that hot Madison? You have legs?
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  Speaker 2: I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chessed up.
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  Speaker 1: Now I have been begging him for a job on
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  Speaker 1: every every platform I can, and I want to know
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  Speaker 1: the reason.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you want to party?
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  Speaker 2: What you heard? There were some of the voice recordings
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  Speaker 2: that we have heard so much about as part of
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  Speaker 2: the WWE shareholder's lawsuit, which has since been settled. But
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  Speaker 2: just because it's been settled and is not going to
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  Speaker 2: trial after all, does not mean that the speculation stops
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  Speaker 2: around whether Vince McMahon sold the company to Endeavor as
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  Speaker 2: a way to get out of some legal problems and
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  Speaker 2: sell it to somebody with whom he had a favorable relationship.
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  Speaker 2: That seems very likely. But Brandon Thurston posted a story
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  Speaker 2: on Post Wrestling with the audio recordings, which WWE had
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  Speaker 2: tried to block from being released. Thurston credits to other reporters,
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  Speaker 2: one from the News Journal and one from Bloomberg Law,
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  Speaker 2: for coordinating to get these released publicly, because getting the
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  Speaker 2: files required them to go to the courthouse in Wilmington,
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  Speaker 2: Delaware in person. We already had the transcripts of these
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  Speaker 2: voice messages, but to actually hear them, to hear their voices,
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  Speaker 2: it certainly doesn't do anything to make me think the
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  Speaker 2: shareholders did not have a strong case to convince a
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  Speaker 2: jury that the whole sales process was a sham, one
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  Speaker 2: that was rigged from the start to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: Endeavor got their hands on it. That first voice that
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  Speaker 2: you hear is Ari Emmanuel in twenty twenty two, assuring
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  Speaker 2: Vince McMahon that they would indemnify him if need be
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  Speaker 2: from certain legal issues, even though a deposition happened later
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  Speaker 2: on where Ari denied that Vince was ever indemnified by
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  Speaker 2: himself or Endeavor. The other voice you hear is Vince himself,
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  Speaker 2: leaving word for his banking advisor that he wants to
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  Speaker 2: move ahead with the Ari deal because it quote solves
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  Speaker 2: a lot of problems. I mean, this is all moot
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  Speaker 2: now that the case is settled or is in the
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  Speaker 2: process of being settled, but it is interesting to be
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  Speaker 2: able to hear the actual recordings and not just read
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  Speaker 2: a transcript. This is episode nine to seventy of The
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  Speaker 2: Solemn Monster Sounds Off for Sunday, July fifth, twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: after a weekend where Jeff Jarrett's former babysitter tied the
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  Speaker 2: knot with Travis Kelcey at Madison Square Garden and that
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  Speaker 2: is still only the second most famus his wedding at MSG,
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  Speaker 2: after Randy Savage and Elizabeth at Summerslim. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: any snakes popped out of any gift boxes though at
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  Speaker 2: the wedding reception on Friday or the Swifties, they would
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  Speaker 2: have been out for blood. I hope you all had
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  Speaker 2: a happy Fourth of July. You know who did not
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  Speaker 2: have a happy Fourth was a Rajah Jackson. He spent
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  Speaker 2: his behind bars after finally being booked into La County
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  Speaker 2: Jail on Thursday for his attack on Psycho Stu almost
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  Speaker 2: a year ago now at the Knox Pro event in May,
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  Speaker 2: Jackson agreed to plead no contest to battery for what
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  Speaker 2: he did to Psycho Stew real name Stuart Smith. Under
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  Speaker 2: the terms of the plea deal, Jackson has to serve
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  Speaker 2: ninety days in jail, two years on probation, and pay
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  Speaker 2: eighty one thousand dollars in restitution to Psycho Stu, and
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  Speaker 2: he'll likely end up being released at his next hearing,
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  Speaker 2: which is in late September, so he may not even
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  Speaker 2: serve the full ninety days the benefit of being a
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  Speaker 2: first offender. Smith was at the hearing on Thursday, and
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  Speaker 2: he did speak. He said, what happened affecting me deeply,
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  Speaker 2: and I do not minimize the seriousness of it. The
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  Speaker 2: injuries I suffered led to a long and difficult recovery
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  Speaker 2: that I am still trying to recover from, including treatment
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  Speaker 2: for a severe traumatic brain injury, a shattered maxilla, and
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  Speaker 2: a bone graph procedure. He said he suffered memory loss
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  Speaker 2: and reduced cognitive function and has not been able to
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  Speaker 2: work for almost a year. But he said, I do
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  Speaker 2: not stand here with hatred for or desire for revenge.
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  Speaker 2: I hold no grudges against mister Jackson. People can make
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  Speaker 2: terrible decisions in difficult moments. Reduced cognitive function and unable
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  Speaker 2: to work for a year, He's a very forgiving man.
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  Speaker 2: You got things started for July in a big way,
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  Speaker 2: and we got some big TVs coming up this week
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  Speaker 2: for WWE and AEW, so let's keep it going. I
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  Speaker 2: any further, you know, as wrestling fans, we all love
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  Speaker 2: to fantasy book things in our own minds. Right, I'm
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  Speaker 2: as guilty of it as anybody. We do it on
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  Speaker 2: a weekly basis. What kind of promotion would we run
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  Speaker 2: if we had full control over everything? Well, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be a fantasy anymore. Now there's an app
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  Speaker 2: to the app in the episode notes to make it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit easier for you guys to get there.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: The Great American Bash last weekend was the first NXT
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  Speaker 2: pl t air on the CW network, and it crashed
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  Speaker 2: and burned up against Forbidden Door, just three hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety four thousand viewers and a lot less than that,
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  Speaker 2: around one hundred thousand in the key demo, making it
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  Speaker 2: the least watched show in NXT history, at least since
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  Speaker 2: it went to TV after the WWE network days. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a real slap in the face to the
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  Speaker 2: talent in NX, not even just the talent there, but
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  Speaker 2: everybody really who puts those shows together, that they continue
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  Speaker 2: to use NXT as the sacrificial lamb in these head
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  Speaker 2: to head situations, knowing that this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the end result and just not giving a shit. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like they didn't know that this was going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. I mean it may have done more viewers
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  Speaker 2: because it was on free TV than Forbidden Door did.
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  Speaker 2: Forbidden Door was on pay per view. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the buy rate was. Meltzer is saying that it's
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  Speaker 2: tracking less than their recent shows, which where I want
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  Speaker 2: to say, around one hundred and forty five thousand buys.
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  Speaker 2: But by doing this, I mean they're sacrificing viewers for
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  Speaker 2: their own show and for what forgetting people to talk
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  Speaker 2: about NXT on social media so that the focus is
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  Speaker 2: not on AW. Are they afraid that if an NXT
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  Speaker 2: fan sees everybody talking about AW, that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: sample the product and like what they see. That would
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: be the only potential upside for them would be to
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  Speaker 2: try to stop that from happening. And even then I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a reach. And they're doing it again next month,
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  Speaker 2: only this time it's a doubleheader. They have a Triple
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  Speaker 2: A show at noon Eastern and an NXT heat Wave
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: show at three pm, all on the same day, all
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  Speaker 2: on the same venue, one right after the other. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same day. Is all in from Wembley Stadium, single admission,
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  Speaker 2: so if you buy a ticket to one, you get
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  Speaker 2: to see both. To buy one, get one free. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: the Triple A show is going to air on YouTube.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: The NXT show will air on the CW and this
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: is against aw's biggest show of the year, which Forbidden
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  Speaker 2: Door is not. And look at how the NXT show
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  Speaker 2: did this time. You know, we'll know they're taking this
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  Speaker 2: seriously if they had some Raw and SmackDown names that
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  Speaker 2: they add to those shows. But they may not care.
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  Speaker 2: They may not care. Look, we had Damian Priest make
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  Speaker 2: his Triple A debut on the on the show last night,
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  Speaker 2: which has been rumored for a while that he was
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: gonna end up doing some matches there. I mean, you
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: watch SmackDown, and he has promised the war Raiders he
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: doesn't know when and he says it has to be
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: on SmackDown what it happens, But he agreed to their
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: challenge to a double tag team title match because the
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  Speaker 2: war Raiders are going to put their Triple A tag
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: team titles on the line. Priest and our Truth they're
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  Speaker 2: going to put their WWE tag team titles on the line,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to have a title for title match
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  Speaker 2: at some point in the next several weeks on SmackDown
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  Speaker 2: that Priest and Truth are probably going to win. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to send Damian Priest down to Triple A
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  Speaker 2: to do some single shots. That's fine. I think the
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  Speaker 2: Undertaker would love to get his hands on Damian Priest
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  Speaker 2: and book him for a little bit. You probably see
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  Speaker 2: some of himself in Damian Priest. He was out there
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  Speaker 2: on the Triple A show last night looking like, you know,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: the American badass Undertaker when he used to come out
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  Speaker 2: with the vest and everything. And that's fine, but like
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  Speaker 2: this whole idea that they may actually put the Triple
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  Speaker 2: A Tag Team titles on them and have them carry
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  Speaker 2: both sets of tag belts is just so ludicrous to me.
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  Speaker 2: Damian Priest, though, is somebody who I could see as
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  Speaker 2: being a part of that Triple A show. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be surprised if this is in preparation for that, And
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: again we'll see if they add other main roster names here.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just it's just one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see what's gained by continuously doing this.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: But the CW Network they posted every single match in
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  Speaker 2: full from the Great American Bash to its YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 2: as they do with their weekly shows. So if you
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: want to see any of those matches and you didn't,
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: and that main event with Kendall Gray against Lola Weis
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  Speaker 2: was great. You can watch them all there. Actually shout
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  Speaker 2: out to Zaria and Tatum Pasley as well. I went
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  Speaker 2: back and I watched their match that was also very good.
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  Speaker 2: It actually has more views last I checked. Anyway, it
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  Speaker 2: has more views than the Kendall Gray match does. I
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: think the Tsaria Paxley match has like thirty four thousand,
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  Speaker 2: thirty five thousand views and the main event had around
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  Speaker 2: thirty one thousand. So here we are a week after
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: Night of Champions where Wressel Vodes is reporting it was
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  Speaker 2: ESPN's idea to have six matches instead of the usual
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  Speaker 2: five that Triple H loves doing on these shows, their
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  Speaker 2: idea being that they wanted to make sure the paid
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  Speaker 2: portion of the event was stronger after the first hour
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  Speaker 2: aired for free on ESPN. Of course, last year's show
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  Speaker 2: also had six matches, which is before the ESPN partnership
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  Speaker 2: even started, So this really wasn't that much of a change.
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  Speaker 2: And the Summer Slam card is coming together. The big
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  Speaker 2: question I guess, other than whether or not Rhea Ripley
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  Speaker 2: is going to be healthy enough to wrestle, and what
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  Speaker 2: they're going to do with her championship is whether Sammy
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Zain makes it to Minneapolis with that WWE championship. It's
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  Speaker 2: not looking good. It's not looking good at all, guys,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people are going to be very
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  Speaker 2: happy about that. They've been giving Sammy shit all week,
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  Speaker 2: saying he's not deserving of being a world champion, and
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  Speaker 2: I think I put that shit to bed pretty well
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  Speaker 2: on TNT on Tuesday Night, my little rant. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to get into that again, but these are likely
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: the same people that shit on the idea of Daniel
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Bryan as WWE champion and said always too small. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look the part. He looks like a fan, he's
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  Speaker 2: not a wrestler. He's too short. And they ended up
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  Speaker 2: with a great story where the fans rallied behind him
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  Speaker 2: and he gave us one of the great all time
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  Speaker 2: WrestleMania moments. For every Daniel Bryan is champion, we had
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  Speaker 2: a guy three times his size, like the great colleague
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  Speaker 2: who absolutely sucked Jinder Mahal who took his vitamins and
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  Speaker 2: got the eye of Vince McMahon and won the belt.
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  Speaker 2: That rain sucked. That rain also lasted six months. So
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: if you can suffer through that. You'll live having Sammy
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  Speaker 2: zayin as WWE champion for a week or a month,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it turns out to be. No one really deserves it. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he deserves to be the champion. No one deserves it.
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  Speaker 2: He's earned it through his work, even just the last
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: couple of months on SmackDown, He's earned the right to
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: hold that title. And it throws a little chaos into
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the bill to SummerSlam. But on SmackDown, Adam Pearce, who
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  Speaker 2: is filling in for Nick All This, announced that Sammy
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Zain is going to be defending the WWE Championship on
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Raw Tomorrow night in Chicago. Is it me or does
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: it feel like we've had more televised World Championship matches
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  Speaker 2: between WWE and AW this year than any other year
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: and we're only halfway through the year. This is going
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: to be at least the fifth WWE title match alone
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  Speaker 2: on television in twenty twenty six, the third in less
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: than a month. We count those two that Cody and
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Gunther had back to back a few weeks ago. That's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: not counting the times that Cmpunk defended the World Heavyweight title.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: That was at least twice maybe three times, right, once
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: against bron Breaker and once against Finn Balor, and might
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: have been just those two. MJF is a about to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: have his seventh aw world title defense of the year
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  Speaker 2: on television this Wednesday, and that doesn't include the weekly
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: title defenses by Darby Allen when he was the champion.
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  Speaker 2: Very likely that we are going to end up with
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  Speaker 2: two world title changes between the two companies within forty
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  Speaker 2: eight hours this week, but that's a lot of title
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  Speaker 2: matches being given away for free. Sammy is going to
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  Speaker 2: defend against Cody Rhodes after Cody beat Jay Usso in
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  Speaker 2: a Number one Contenders match on SmackDown, and you gotta
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: love it, by the way, you know jay Usso's He's
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  Speaker 2: in the King of the Ring final for a shot
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  Speaker 2: at the World Championship of his choosing at SummerSlam, and
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: he loses there He is, though, and a Number one
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  Speaker 2: Contenders match for the other belt on SmackDown, a brand
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  Speaker 2: he's not even on, and on Raw Tomorrow. The show
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  Speaker 2: happens to be in Chicago, where CM punk has been
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  Speaker 2: rumored to make his return. It would make all the
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: sense in the world for him to be on that show. Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: When he does, he will likely end up on SmackDown
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  Speaker 2: when he does, meaning when he returns, he will likely
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: be on SmackDown. And all signs point to him wrestling
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Cody Roads on the Summer Slam card. And if that happens,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: that leaves Sammy's aim without a match on that show. Now,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I'm a little torn on this. On the one hand,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I would really hate for Sammy to only get nine
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: days as champion. Others have gotten less, Okay, I've used
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the Christian example from twenty eleven. People have been cashed
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: in on and lost their championship in five minutes. Sammy
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: has earned more than nine days with the title after
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: ten years of chasing it. But if the plan is
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to do Cody Roads against Cmpunk at SummerSlam, that is
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: legitimately one of the three biggest matches that this company
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: can put together right now, if it has enough time
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  Speaker 2: to really get built up properly. Now, do they really
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: need more than three weeks to tell the story? I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: guess that's another question, Like they can probably do a
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: good enough job on the mic in that time to
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: do it, or if it's maybe the first match and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have a series of matches spread out. Then
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I mean what else would they do really
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to promote this match, you know, outside of a couple
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: of really strong promos, you know, with two babyfaces, we're
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: gonna have another tired pull apart brawl, another tired contract signing,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: another can they coexist tag team match? Like when you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: really stop and think about it, because we talk about
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I hope they have enough time to build this.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You got to give it time to build. And look,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: not everything is going to have the build of a
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: takeshna Okata which they spread out over a year, right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a year and a half or whatever else, you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: whatever other example you want to use the slow burn, right,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: not everything needs that much of a burn. But how
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: much time do they really need to tell a story
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: with Cody and Punk? Probably not very long, so they
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: could do it. It would be one of the biggest
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: matches they could do outside of Rock and Roman or
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Roman in Oba. And it's a match that I really
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: would like to see. You've heard me mention the match
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: on the podcast before is one that I would love
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to see at SummerSlam. I wanted it at WrestleMania, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to do it at the expense of Sammy's ain. It
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: just doesn't sit right with me, And so I'm hoping
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: tomorrow they can do things in such a way that
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: keeps the belt on Sammy while keeping Cody and Punk involved,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: leading to a triple threat scenario. And for Sammy, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: think that's probably gonna be the best he could hope for.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: That's going to be his best bet at being on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the Summer Slam card at all, is if they work
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: him in there and they have him enter as the champion,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and there are ways to do that, you know. Somebody
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: on the SmackDown stream on Friday night floated the idea
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of Punk being on commentary for the main event, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Sammy gets desperate. Late in the match, he goes after
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Punk to goad him into coming after him, and Cody
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: ends up getting disqualified. Now Cody's got a problem with
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Punk because Punk just cost him the WWE title. Now
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you have all three men intertwined with one another, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I like that. You'd have to have Punk come out
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: then at the beginning of the show as a surprise
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, I'm going to be out here for
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: commentary for the main event. Because my thought was and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: how I see it playing out. More likely, is Cody
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: just straight up beat Sammy and he wins the belt
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: back and after the match, Punk's music hits and he
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: walks out as a surprise at the end of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: show for the big stare down with Cody, right to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: tease that match, that possible match for SummerSlam, And that's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: my feardy, Cody's going to do to Sammy what they
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: had John Cena do to Raymistereo all those years ago.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: And funny enough, what happened after seeing a beat Ray
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: to win the championship on Raw CM, Punk came out
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: as a surprise at the end of the show for
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a stare down with John Cena. That was the first
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: night actually we heard cult of Personality in WWE. That's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: what this feels like to me. I think Sammy Zaying
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: has got a little over twenty four hours left in
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: his title run and that sucks. If that happens to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: not even have one successful title defense, that would suck.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: But the people saying, well, maybe Punk returns and interferes
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: in the match, right, why would he interfere in the match?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like the people I saw talking about that
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: this week. I don't know if they really fully thought
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: that through, Like, what sense would that even make. He's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: not just going to interfere in the match. He would
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: have to be provoked in some way. He's not going
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to randomly show up and cost Cody Rhad to the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: championship and return as a heel in Chicago. What are
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you smoking? That doesn't make any sense. The commentary option though,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to me, that would make the most sense if they
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: wanted to find a way to keep the belt on Sammy. Otherwise,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's looking good for him. I mean, look,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Cody fatigue is a real thing. I sound like I'm
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: about to launch into a fucking ad for some new
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: medical pill that's being sold. Cody fatigue is a real thing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Ask your doctor if you know the Cody pill is
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: right for you. That's true, though, Cody fatigue is a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: real thing. They need to tread very carefully because if
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: he just goes in there and takes the belt right
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: back from Sammy straight up, fans are going to start
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to rebel against him. And I'm not saying there aren't
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: fans already doing that on a smaller scale. You don't
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: really hear it a lot at the venues He did
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: get more of a mixed reaction walking out on SmackDown
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: for that opening segment on Friday, But I mean, we've
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: been through this before, you know, even with the Randy
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Orton stuff earlier this year, were some of these fans
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: it was kind of fifty to fifty or they were
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: leaning more into the booze than the cheers for Cody.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: But in the end, Cody finds a way to kind
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of turn it around and buy and large the fan
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: reactions to him still largely positive. I think a move
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like this, though, this could potentially tip the scales in
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: the opposite direction, you know, and that could blow up
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in their face. So you just have to be careful
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: with how you approach it. And I mean, if the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: idea was to turn Cody heel, then that's fine, But
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that's the case here. Unless the idea
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: is if we move Punk to SmackDown, we can turn
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Cody heel finally and Punk can be the top babyface
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: soon to be forty eight year old CM Punk is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: your top babyface. That doesn't sound like a wise move
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: to me. I don't think that's who you replace Cody
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Roads with. But on Raw Monday night, we had two
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: big matches confirmed for Summer Salam. We already had one match.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: The only match confirmed heading into Monday was EO Sky
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: challenging Live Morgan for the Women's World Championship. You can
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: now add Oba Feme against brock Lesner to the list.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Inside Hell in a Cell and how we arrived at
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: this was Oba was about to make his choice on
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: which championship to challenge for at SummerSlam by virtue of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: him winning King of the Ring this year, when he
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: was interrupted by the returning brock Lesner and Paul Hayman.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Brock said, everybody knows I don't watch the shows, lucky guy,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but Paul's been filling him in on what's been going on,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: including Oba calling him a coward and a bitch and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: questioning his manhood. Talk shit, get hit and he kicked
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Oba in the dick before dropping him with an F five.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Oba gets up, it's holding his junk. He's not very happy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: You say I call you names behind your back. Well,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: now you're in front of me and you're still a bitch.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Let's settle this once and for all at SummerSlam. Brock accepts,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: but under one condition that they do it inside hell
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it hisself. It's a big stipulation, big stipulation for a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: big blowoff match. I like it first Hell of a
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Cell match since Punkin MacIntyre two years ago, and that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: one was five stars all the way, Brock's gonna have
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to go more than six minutes if they're doing it
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: inside the cell. The time it takes them to lower
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the cage should not be longer than the actual match itself.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they give this some more time. And it had
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to happen there being at Summer Slam because there was
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: no other obvious opponent for Brock on that show. I mean,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: we could joke about how boy Oba is an idiot.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You had Saturday Nights Made event coming up in Madison
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Square Guarden. Why did he throw Summer Slam out there,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: knowing he's got a guaranteed title match on that show.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: That is very true. You know, it does feel like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: a bigger match for a Summer Slam and not for
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a Saturday Nights Made event, which, by the way, we
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: only have two matches that dounce so far. What an
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: ass card that is for Madison Square Garden. I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: we still have a couple of weeks left I would
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: hope they got a couple of bigger matches, like really
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: bigger matches planned for that show, because if not as
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: popular as Dan Housen is going to be a Madison
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Square Garden that night. Dan Housen against j D McDonough,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: probably with Jalen Brunson in dan Housen's corner, would be
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: my guess and Page in Briebella defending the tag team
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: titles against Fatal Influence. That ain't gonna cut it. I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: hope they have some good shit planned for that show
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: because that card is that card is not good, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: boy could really use a match like brock Lesnar against
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Olba Femi. It's a legendary historic venue at Madison Square Garden,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: so they can make it into a big show. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like, you got to get past me
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: if you want that title match at Summer Slam, right,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you could have done that, You could have done something
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: like that. But they were not going to leave brock
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Lesner off the Summer Slim Car, especially in Minneapolis. He
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: was always going to be on that show. If he's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: gonna wrestle on that show, there is nobody else that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: really makes sense for him to wrestle if not Obafemi.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Now you could try to shoehorn Gunther in there, because
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Gunther has just fallen off Right's. He had all the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: attention to focus on him for so long and now
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: he's been relegated to basically just a background player. Now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: coming out of that title match a Knight of Champions,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: he'll be wrestling Nick All. This most likely the GM
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at SummerSlam, which is a fine little attraction for the card.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But boy again, it's a big drop off from what
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Gunther was doing before. You could have I suppose on
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a few weeks notice, a few weeks build put together
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a match with Brock and Gunther. If maybe coming out
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: of the OBA thing they wanted to push Brock as
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: more of a babyface, you could have done that there.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Legitimately is nobody else though that I could think of
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that you could put Brock with on short notice for SummerSlam.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: So I get why they would want to do the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: match with Obah on that show. And here's the other
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: thing about Brock Lesner and SummerSlam. He's mister SummerSlam. You know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: we hear about mister wrestle man. I'll get questions about
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: this every now, and then who's mister WrestleMania, Mister Royal, Rumble,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: mister this, mister that. And so I've answered those questions before.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Who's mister SummerSlam. You wonder who mister SummerSlam is. I mean,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you might have a couple of different options that you
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: could go with, but honestly, Brock Lesnar is mister SummerSlam.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: If you look at the body of work he's put
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: together on that show. This is his show. That last
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: man's standing match, That last match he had with Roman
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Reigns was probably their best ever singles match. Funny enough
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: with the last one they had, the Fatal four Way
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen that Brock was part of with Roman
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and Joe and I think Stroman that was great, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: match with Undertaker in twenty fifteen, the squash of John Cena,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the match with Punk in twenty thirteen, that is his
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: best Summer Slam match. That's one of the best matches
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: in Summer Slam history. Kurt Angle in two thousand and three,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the Rock in two thousand and two. There's just something
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: about SummerSlam that brings the best as that of brock Lesner.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And this year the show again into Minneapolis. I'm sure
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the two of them are gonna go inside that cell
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna kill it. So then the question is,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: why have Oba win King of the Ring when the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: winner is supposed to get a championship match at SummerSlam.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Dave Meltzer says it was always the plan for Oba
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to win King of the Ring but then forego his
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: title match at Summer Slim, because the idea is to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: hold off on doing Oba against Roman to make it
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a really big deal. I would guess for Saudi Mania
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: next year if they didn't want Omen I legitimately Obo
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: said Omen and Robah. If they didn't want Roman and Oba,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that's quite the the switcheroo there to touch. Yet I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: understand that, Like, that's understandable if you want to hold
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: off on that, But to give him the crown without
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: giving him what was promised by winning the crown is
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: fuck lazy and it just makes the whole thing feel
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: so pointless. You know, I had assumed that Oba was
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: just delaying his title match to a later date. It's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: like he told Adam Pierce on on Monday, the title
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: will always be there. I've got to settle this with
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Brock now, but the title will always be there. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well, I guess that means he's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: gonna just have his championship match at Wressell Palozo. He's
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: gonna have his championship match at Wrestle Bay or something
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: right at a later date. But evidently I don't know
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: what's going on. But evidently on WWE's own official Raw
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Recap podcast, this is their podcast with Sam Roberts and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Megan morand they talked about it, like Oba willingly discarded
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: his title shot because the title shot was for Summer Slam.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I assume this is their logic, and so he chose
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to wrestle brock Lesner at SummerSlam. So therefore he gets
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: no guaranteed title shot because this isn't money in the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: fucking bank where you can just the time and place
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to cash in. So until WWE clarifies this, I have
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to assume the title shot is gone. I mean, he's honestly,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he should win the Royal Rumble anyway. The Rumble means
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: more than King of the Ring does. He can just
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: win the Rumble and choose Roman and just forget about
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: all of this. I wouldn't be surprised if this title
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: shot is discarded and they just forget about it. But
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the fact that this was the plan from the start,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: if we are to believe that that this was the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: plan from the start, this is what they intended to do,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: and this was not some sort of late decision or
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: pivot or anything like that, then he didn't need to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: be in the tournament to begin with. It's all very stupid,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: very very dumb. But you want to know why they
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: did it. There is a method to the madness here,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I think in their view, here's why they did it,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: okay in my opinion, And we don't have to like it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: We don't have to think it makes any sense. But
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: for the people asking, well, why not just have Seth
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Rollins and bron Breaker go to the finals and do
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: their match there would have made so much sense, right
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: since Rollins is getting a title match for Roman reigns anyway,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and just leave Oba out of the tournament, or have
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Brock interfere and screw him in the opening round, which
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: was a fatal four way by the way, so you
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: can actually beat Oba without him taking a pinfall loss.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Why not just do it that way? Here's why It's
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: very simple. Besides the obvious, which is that they wanted
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Oba to have King of the Ring on his resume. Right,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: he's the ruler and now he can call himself the king.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Ask yourself, why was jay Uso in the I mean
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: outside of the obvious reason, why was jay Uso in
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the finals or the King of the Ring? Because they
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to have him on that Night of championshow they
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: wanted the entrance. They wanted the fans to be able
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to yeat with him on his way down to the ring.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's the real attraction of jay Uso, because it's definitely
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: not when the bell rings. When the bell rings, it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: as basic as it gets. It's the music, it's the entrance,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it's the yeating, it's the crowd participation. It's fun for
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the people who are in that building. They wanted him
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: on that show, so they sent him to the finals.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Why was Obafemi and the King of the Ring? Because
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: if he wasn't or Brock bounced him out of the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: first round, what does he do at Night of Champions
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: If Brock is not wrestling at Knight of Champions and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: what does Obafemi do? He probably is not on the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: show because he's busy getting ready to kill Brock Lesner
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: for killing his chances of winning King of the Ring.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense for him to wrestle somebody else
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in the meantime, right, Brock clearly was not committed to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this date in Saudi, So let's assume he's not working
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the show or they want to save that match for summer.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So London, what does he do. He's not on Night
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: of Champions. They wanted him on that show too. They
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: wanted Obafemi on that show. They wanted him to struck
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: down to the ring. He was a big attraction on
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that show. So if Oba's not in the tournament, he's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: not on the show. This was their way of making
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: sure he had something to do in Riat. By keeping
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Rollins and Breakers separate in a cage match, it gave
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: them an extra match to do on the show since
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: ESPN wanted six instead of five, so they separated them out.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying any of this makes it right or
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: that it isn't silly when there was an easier way
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to go about doing this. I'm just telling you why
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: these decisions were made, why they do things the way
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: they do them. Seth Rawlins confronted Roman reigns. At the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: end of Raw, he cut one hell of a promo
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: on him, talking about their fourteen years of shared history
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: dating back to the formation of the Shield, and how
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Roman has never been able to beat Rollins on the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: big stage when it matters most. He's the itch that
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: he can't scratch. He's the ghost that he can't chase away.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And this may well be their last chance to dance
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: together because they're not getting any younger and the new
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: generation is nipping at their heels right waiting to take
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: their spots. So Roman accepted there's a lot of history
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: there to draw from, and it is true. Roman has
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: never beaten Seth when it matters. Seth never did lose
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the championship, so it makes sense that he would want
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to get it back right now that he's vanquished bron
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Breaker and he's vanquished the Vision, what else would he
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: do other than go for the championship that he never lost.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: It's not the match that I would have preferred to see,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: but it's the match that we're getting, and I'm sure
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it'll be great. They're looking at the most marquee matches
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: that they can do. Roman and Seth, Brock and Ova
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Cody and Punk. Maybe they work Sammy in there, maybe
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: they don't, but they're looking at the most marquee matches
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: because they still have a lot of tickets to sell.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: They've got a two night Summer Slam in a stadium.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Last year, they announced fifty three thousand for Night one
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: of Summer Slam. They announced over sixty thousand for Night two,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: which was probably bullshit, but not too far off from
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: what the actual legitimate number was. Night two was also
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the night that they had John Cena in the main event.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing to help them sell a lot of tickets
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: last year so far this year and we're less than
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a month out from the show. Although this was before
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the twenty five percent off sale that they just started
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: as part of this whole America two fifty thing. They
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: had twenty three thousand, six hundred tickets out for Night
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: one of SummerSlam this year and twenty three thousand, two
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: hundred actually less for Night two. Now. US Bank Stadium
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: is smaller than MetLife Stadium, but it ain't that much smaller.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That's a big drop off from where they were last year.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: You had over fifty thousand, sixty thousand tickets sold for
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: both nights. I mean they're literally at half that right now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So they're trying to come up with what big matches,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: what attractions can we sign? Can we start promoting for
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: this show to try to help move tickets, and now
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: ticket prices being as elevated as they are, don't help.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I would have to think as we get closer those tickets,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you know, those prices will start to drop. I'll have
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of people in the building. But again, you
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: see where they are now compared to where they were
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: a year ago, that's a big drop off. So I
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: mentioned Gunther against nick All. This nothing is official. If ever,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: there was going to be a time for nick All
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: this to put the tights back on and get back
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: in the ring. This is as close as we have
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: ever felt to it. The two of them were sent
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: home after they had their little pull apart angle after
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Night of Champions last weekend. We were told nick All
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: this is on administrative leave, which is why Adam Pierce
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: has assumed his role is GM on SmackDown for the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: time being. The only thing that makes sense is now
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that he's on administrative leave, he's technically not the GM anymore,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: so there's no conflict of interest, and you put him
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: in the ring and he says, you know, he'll fight
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: gun Through at SummerSlam. And look, I'm sure he's been
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: itching to get back in the ring ever since he
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: signed with this company. Like I know for a fact
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: that this man wanted to sign with WWE years ago,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: years ago, and for reasons, and there may have been
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: somebody who was not fond of him. It didn't happen.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Finally he ended up working in this company. They brought
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: him in as a general manager, and I think he's
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: done a very capable job in that role. But I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: am sure there is a large part of him that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: has been dying to get back in the ring, even
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just once, to get back in the ring because he's
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: never had a match in WWE. This would be his
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: first ever match in WWI, and who knows where it
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: may lead. I expect him to go right back to
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: being the GM, but who knows. One match could be
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: get two, two could be get four. Maybe he ends
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: up wrestling a handful of times each year. Who knows.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: And it's it's a fine attraction to do on the show.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: But again, Gunther from where he was before, where he
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: was being positioned, to where he is now if he's
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: going to end up wrestling Nick all This on the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: undercard at Summerslim. I just talked about the ticket drop
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: off for Summer Slim. That's a big drop off. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: if you're Nick all This, I can't think of a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: better opponent that you would want to be getting into
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the ring with than Gunther. You know, he's one of
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: the best in the world. Meltzer report ordered in this
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: week's Observer that Royce Keys was at one point the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: planned opponent for Gunther, but that obviously has changed. It
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: looks to me now what we're probably looking at, based
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: on what we've been seeing on TV, is a six
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: man tag team match at SummerSlam, Jacob Fatu and the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Ussos against Solo Socoa, La Knight and Royce Keys all
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: on the same team. That would seem to make sense.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: They finally come around to the idea of linking up
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: with Solo and we get that as a match. And
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: we're also looking at Charlotte Flair, most likely against Jade Cargill,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: hopefully Chad Gable challenging for the Intercontinental title in his hometown,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: whether it's a multiman match or a singles match with
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Penta that should be the plan. Paul Hayman I mentioned though,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: he was back on Raw, first time we've seen him
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: in weeks since bron Breaker accidentally speared him through the barricade.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: He was back on Raw, not with the Vision or
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: what's left of the Vision, because Breaker wasn't even on
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the show. Neither was low Paul, neither was Bronson Reid.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It was basically down to just Austin Theory. Austin Theory
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: was as surprised as anybody to see Paul Hayman on
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the show. He had no idea Paul was even gonna
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: be there. And when he said this to Paul, Paul
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: looked at him and said, well, now you know, and
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: he walked off. He looked annoyed that the fall guy
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: was giving him grief. Well, now it sounds like the
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Vision may well be coming to an end. Surprise, surprise.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: This should have happened a while ago. But according to
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a report from Wressel Votes Radio on Thursday, there is
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: said to be a split opinion regarding the future of
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the Vision. The report notes that some within WWE feel
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the Vision should continue, but only if the group is reimagined,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: including changes to the factions lineup. Others in WWE, however,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: feel the group has run its course, which it absolutely has,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: and that it's time to let the pieces fall where
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: they may. The report continues to state that regardless of
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: what happens with the Vision, Paul Hayman is still expected
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to remain paired with Bron Breaker, with Hayman viewed as
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: an important part of Breaker's presentation on Raw this week,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Austin Theory approached Hayman backstage and said Hayman had not
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: been returning his calls, and if Hayman is not returning
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: your calls, that's probably a pretty bad sign for the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the future of the vision. Look, the Vision is no
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: longer needed the vision. Here's what the vision should have been.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: The vision should have been when seth Rollins got injured.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: But even before seth Rollins got injured, I think the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: long term vision no pun intended for this group. One
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: goal elevate Bron Breaker to main event babyface status. That
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: should have been the singular goal of the vision, not
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: unlike when Evolution was formed many years ago, Triple H
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: was the leader, Rick Flair was the veteran, but clearly
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the idea was to elevate Batista and especially Randy Orton.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That was the long term goal. And Randy Orton, Look,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Randy Orton didn't benefit from being in Evolution.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: They did stuff with him that really bungled his career
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: there for a little bit. It was more Batista who
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: was the more immediate beneficiary of being a part of
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that group. Orton ended up being okay, but that was
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the goal there. The goal here should have been Bron Breaker.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Elevate him to being, if not our top guy, one
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of our top two or three guys. This is the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: guy that we want to be way up here right
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: for years to come. And he's kind of taken a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: back seat recently to Obafemi. Doesn't mean that they've given
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: up on him, but he's not the you know, he's
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: not the shiny new toy anymore. When Seth Rollins got hurt,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the move to make with the vision was to essentially
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: make Bron Breaker the lead force in the group, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I thought that's what they were going to do. If
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: you remember when Breaker turned on Rollins, he was scary
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that night. Walked up to Bronson reed basically, you're with
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: me or you're against me. Went up to Hayman, you're
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: with me or you're against me. But he was the
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: one calling the shots, and I'm like, okay, we're getting
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: to this a little bit quicker than I thought, but okay,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: strap the rocket and let's go right fucking LFG. Let's
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: do this. And then the very next week he was
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: right back to being bron Breaker, like the lap dog
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: falling in line. Paul Hayman was now the de facto
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: leader of the Vision and not just the Oracle or
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: whatever he was calling himself at the time. The Advisor
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and bron Breaker like they had opportunity there and they
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: squandered it. They squandered it. That was the first time
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: they fucked it up. And then as the munch dragged on,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: obviously Breaker got hurt, so he had to go wait
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: for a while, it just was like, what are we
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: doing here? What is the purpose? What are the points
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: of this group? Bronson Reid got hurt, everybody was getting hurt.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: This group is cursed logan. Paul gets hurt. So we're
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: down to Austin theory. The only reason theory was even
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: added to the group, as I've been saying from day one,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: was to be the fall guy. When the Vision has
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to lose. We'll have Austin Theory. We go in there
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: and take the losing fall because we don't want to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: beat Logan Paul too much. We don't want to beat
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: bron Breaker too much. Although he did lose this fucking
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: feud to seth Rawlins, Bronson Reid went away. So but
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: even if Bronson Reid didn't get hurt, you wouldn't want
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to beating him all the time. So let's get somebody
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: in there who could take the l's. Hey, Austin, come
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: on over. I mean, at least he's been in a
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: better position than he was when he was just hanging
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: out with Grayson Waller and couldn't even get on the show.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: For fucking Waller. He can't get on the show these
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: days to save his life. So least Theory is getting
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: TV time. But who is this really benefiting at this point?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: This is not the judgment day where you can just
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: have a turnover on the roster. Well, we'll just turn
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: these guys out, We'll bring three or four new guys in,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: just blow up the whole fucking group, disband the faction.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Whatever purpose it was intended to serve, or it did serve,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: it no longer is serving. It is a waste of time.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: It brings down Paul Hayman the more people you stick
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: with him, and it doesn't really work out bron Breaker
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and Paul haym And I get that you want to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: keep the two of them together, Fine, that's you want
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to keep him as a Hayman guy, That's fine. I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: still feel like, coming out of this loss to seth
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Rolins at the end of this program, that the role
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: for bron Breaker is going to be as just this
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: badass kick ass babyface. I don't mean like Smiley babyface,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the ass kicker babyface. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know why then he would necessarily need Paul
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Hayman with him for that. Like we're getting a tag
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: team championship rematch tomorrow night. Austin Theory and bron Breaker
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: are getting Challenge of the Street Profits for the world
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: tag team titles, and I'm gonna be very disappointed if
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: this match ends any other way but them losing again
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: and then bron Breaker fucking destroying Austin Theory, like cutting
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: him in half with a spear, and let that be
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the end of the vision. Let them officially kill the Vision.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow when Bronson Reid comes back, if you want to
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: have him target bron Breaker, you could do that. You
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: could actually feud them. If we had a healthy tag
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: team division in this company, I actually would not be
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: against the idea of putting Breaker and read Back together
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: as kind of like a full time tag team for
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a while. But they don't. The reality is they do
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: not have a strong tag team division, and bron Breaker
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: being involved in that is a complete waste of bron Breakers.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: So that's not really much of an option. But to
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: answer the original question, should the Vision be kept together
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: or split up? The Vision should be blown up by dynamite.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the aaw kind. Speaking of
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: bron Breaker, this became a story this week. This is
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: just so ridiculous. So at Night of Champions he had
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the cage match with Seth Rollins. During the course of
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the cage match, and I believe it was on the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: superplex spot from the top of the cage through the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: table down below, Breaker got cut open on his face.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Half his face ended up being just covered in blood
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: and it was a great visual. I really think it
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: added to the match. We don't see that very often
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: in WWE. After the event, fans started reporting that on Netflix,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: which is you know where the show airs internationally, his
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: entire face was being blurred out after he was busted open.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just like they turned the screen black and white,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: where they tried something where they covered up like a
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: part of his face, which I guess would have been
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: tough to do. They literally blurred the man's entire He
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: looked like some sort of entity out of a horror movie.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: They just put a blur over the man's face for
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the remainder of the match, and according to PW Insider,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: blurring a Breaker's head was done by WWE itself. The
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: report notes that in addition to blurring his face, some
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: camera angles used during the live broadcast were replaced with
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: alternate shots on the Netflix replay, and in what was
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: described as a common practice for WWE replays on Netflix,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: they also noted that the holy shit chance after Rollins
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: put Breaker through the table were replaced with this is
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: awesome chance. Boy, Ye, net Flix is really they're really
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: dropping the hammer on this, aren't they? And I could
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I could still remember when WWE moved to Netflix. Oh boy,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: it's going to be so much more risque. On the show.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Now they're on Netflix. They're not on broadcast cable anymore.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I should point out these edits are not on the
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: ESPN Unlimited version, So even if it's WWE making the
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: actual edits, this sounds like a Netflix thing that WWE
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: was asked to make the edits, because it makes no
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: sense otherwise why they wouldn't you know, they wouldn't do
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: it on ESPN. If they're doing it on Netflix, this
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: sounds like a Netflix thing, and I can't understand why.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: A one more note here from TV this week. You
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: saw SmackDown on Friday, which was taped on Monday after Raw.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: There was a Triple A Cruiserweight Championship. Mat Ray Phoenix
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: defended his championship successfully against the Triple A Latin American
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: champion l e Hodel Vikingo. This may have been vi
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Kingo's SmackDown debut. I can't remember if he's ever appeared
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: on the show. I don't believe he has had a match.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: It was about eight minutes of which we saw half
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: because there was a commercial in the middle of it,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: so it was a for all intents and purposes, a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: four minute match, about as good as a four minute match.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: As you'll see, Vikingo is the only Triple A start
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: to be signed to an actual WWE contract, and they
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: looked to him as being one of the faces of
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: that brand really when they first launched the brand and
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: took it over. I mean, they're not one hundred percent owners,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: but they're obviously a partial owner of Triple A, and
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: they wanted vi Kingo to be the guy. And then
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: ultimately they turned him heel because the fans had turned
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: against him, and I think he's from what I've seen
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: of him in the heel role, he's taken to it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: He's been doing well in that role. Unfortunately, he is
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: now said to be injured. According to Corey Hayes of
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: False Finish, the Kingo was injured earlier in the day
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday going over his scheduled match on NXT with
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: e K Prosper and he later reported that the injury
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: is to Vikingo's left knee, which has swollen pretty badly,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: so they're waiting on an MRI to determine the severity
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of the injury. Right now, his leg is in a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: brace and so instead on Tuesday's NXT show, Keanu Carver
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: attacked Viking go backstage. We didn't see the attack. We
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: just saw him standing over and injured Viking Goo and
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: so they just I guess they ended up doing Keanu
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Carver against ek Prosper instead on the show. So I
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: VI Kingo was fine coming out of the match with
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Phoenix on SmackDown, which again was taped on Monday and
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: then on Tuesday. I'm guessing what ended up happening is
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: he was probably going over spots earlier in the day
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: for his match and he hurt his knee. I mean,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: unless he went to go, you know, take a shit,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and as he was standing up he tore his knee up.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine that's what happened. He was probably in
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the ring working out spots with E K Prosper and
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: he got hurt in the middle of like rehearsals before
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the show even went on the air on Tuesday. So
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that sucks, and so we'll wait to see what the
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: severity is. Maybe it's not as severe as they fear,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: but the fact that the knee is badly swollen and
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: they need to send him for an MRI and he
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: has a history of knee issues is not good. It
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: sounds like there are three names on their way to WWE.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: First Mike Santana. This is the least surprising name of all.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: He lost his TNA World Heavyweight Championship to Nick Neamath
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: last weekend It's Lammiversary after reports that his TNA deal
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: was expiring this month. Pw Insider is reporting that he
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: finished up with TNA at the pay per view and
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: he was not scheduled to appear at their TV tapings
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: this past week, which he did not. They say the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: expectation is that his deal will officially be up sometime
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: in mid July. I would be stunned if he lands
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: anywhere else with WWE. He didn't exactly leave aw on
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: the I don't want to say the best of terms,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: but he didn't leave with the best feelings, all right.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Not that he burned it bridges there or anything like that,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: but he he was very unhappy with how he was
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: being utilized, and there's no reason to believe that he
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: would be used any differently if he went back there.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: WWE has used him on NXT before, they clearly have
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: an interest in him. I think NXT could be where
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: he lands initially. Most people do, but not everybody, but
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: most people do. I think they could do with him
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: what they did with Joe Hendry, where they give him
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a run there FIRSUS NXT champion to lead the brand
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: for at least a few months before calling him up
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to the main roster. But yeah, make no mistake, he's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: main roster ready right now. It's just a matter of
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: is there a spot for him. If there isn't, then
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: start him in NXT and wait until there is. Don't
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: put him on the main roster and do to him
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: what they've been doing to people like Joe Hendry, Jordan
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Grace who were basically MIA at this point. I don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: know if a WWE championship is in his future. I
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if a World Heavyweight Championship is in his future.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: What I do know is that his story is a
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: great one of some one who started out in a
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: tag team. He wanted more, He ended up getting hurt.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: He went through the rehab process for over a year.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: He got himself into the best shape of his life.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: He climbed out of a very dark hole in his
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: personal life. He's been sober now for over three years.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: He reinvented himself. He showed proof of concept that he
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: can be a singles player. How high he ascends is
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: really up to WWE and how they see him. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: he has earned this opportunity. He's put the work in,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: and if he does sign with them, I could not
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: be happier for the man. And they're getting someone who
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I think can be a real asset to them on
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: their roster. Eric Young is also gone from TNA. This
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: one did surprise me because he felt like a TNA
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: lifer at this point, but I guess there's no such
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: thing as a TNA lifer. He did leave TNA many
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: years ago. He signed with WWE. He had a run
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: as the leader of Sanity in NXT in the Black
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and Gold days, and then I'm the main roster where
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Vince McMahon was clearly not a fan of theirs. Vince
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: McMahon was clearly not a fan of Sanity boys, that
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: is that true. Even after that on Raw they kind
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: of had him in a singles role there for a while.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I would say if Eric Young worked half a dozen
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: matches on Raw in his life, I would be stunned.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: And then he was let go as part of their
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: COVID cuts in twenty twenty. Now he came back to
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: WWE in twenty twenty two after Vince McMahon left the company,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: but never actually wrestled for them. He never even left
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: his house. He signed with them, he was officially under
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: contract with them, but if you go look up what
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Eric Young matches did we see in twenty twenty two,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna find any. He was supposed to work
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: with Bray Wyatt and the idea was to be I
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: think bray Bow and Ewy as a trio. That's what
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Triple H sold it to him as this is what
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: we're going to do, this is the plan, but it
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: never happened. Then of course Vince McMahon forced his way
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: back into the company and onto the board, and he
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: didn't want to work for Vince, so he requested his
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: release and he had to sign an NDA before they
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: would give it to him. Add that to the pile
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: of NDAs with this company, I guess. But this was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: even before the Janelle Grant stuff came out. He said
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: he couldn't work for someone like that morally. Morally, he
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: said he could not work for a human being like that.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: And kudos to him for standing on his beliefs. You know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: him and mcfoley. They gave up guaranteed money when they
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: didn't have to because they felt a certain way. It
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't just lip service with those guys, so respect for that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Fightful is reporting that Eric Young requested his release from TNA,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: and WWE sources expect him to return, as he has
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: long had a good relationship with Triple H and the
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: door has always been opened for him to come back. Now,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: if you're wondering what Young thinks of Triple H, he
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: once said that he would help him hide a dead
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: body if he asked him to. No wonder Triple H
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: wants him back. See those types of ride or die
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: are hard to find. You know, when he worked as
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: a producer for them last time, it was only because
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Triple H asked him to. He did that for I
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: think what he says, sixteen weeks, and they wanted him
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: to do it full time. He turned it down because
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: he still wants it to wrestle, and they told him
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: if you want the job at any point, just say
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: the word it's yours. This doesn't sound like a producer
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: role per se, but per Brian Alvarez, he's expected to
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: work in NXT as a player coach, although he is
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: not expected to start with them right away, not until September,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: is what Meltzer is saying. Young posted on x amid
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: all the rumors this week, he said, the internet is
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: e f and wild. Three things to know about the
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: news today. Number One, I asked for my release and
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: they granted it. Number Two, I was never on a
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: handshake deal. I've had a binding contract the entire time.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: And number three, I will work where I want, how
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I want, and for whom I want. My track record, resume, accolades,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: and reputation are proof of that. See you soon. Speaking
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of TNA roade dog Brian James, he was backstage at
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Slammiversary last week, and he was not present at their
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: television tapings in all but in New York on Wednesday
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: or Thursday. The two size are said to still be
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: working out a deal for him to join the creative team,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: which he is still expected to join. That is still
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: expected to happen, It just hasn't happened yet. Just working
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: out all the fine details. I guess of the kibbles
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: and bits that they're going to be paying him. Their
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: next tapings are in Philly July thirtieth and thirty first,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: which will build to their Lockdown pay per view on
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: August twenty third, So you would think that they would
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: want to have a deal done before those tapings to
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: make sure that he could have a hand in those shows. Otherwise,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: we're not really going to get a sense of what
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: a dreamerless TNA is going to look like until the
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: end of next month. And Big Bill given notice that
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: he will be leaving AW at the end of his deal,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: which if that has not already happened, it will be
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: happening very shortly. It will over the next week or so.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: If he's not already gone, he will be gone. And
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: that comes per Fightful, which says that WWE is expected
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: to pick up both he and Enzo Amore for a reunion.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: As of mid June, Enzo had still not yet signed
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: with WWE because the company was waiting for Bill to
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: be free and clear, which I love just tread translated,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: it means they had no interest in Enzo Amore without
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: being able to put the two of them back together,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: which I don't. I mean, hey, that makes sense to me.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: That was when he was at his most over. I
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: still feel like a long term the better play here
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: is not Enzo as a wrestler, The better play here
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: is Enzo as a manager for Big Bill, not his
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: tag team partner. I understand them wanting to bring them
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: back initially as a team, because that's what they were before,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and they're going to be super over at the very beginning.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: You put Bill in a tag team, though, you're putting
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: a ceiling on him before he even starts. It's going
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: to be the learning tree all over again, only more
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: over him and Brian Keith. They were stuck in a
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: tag team in aw because Tony Kahn didn't have any
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: other ideas on what to do with Big Bill. A
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: cast In Enzo reunion will be a big hit for
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: a little while, but the reality then will set in
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: very quickly that they're in a dead end spot in
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: a dead end division. Unless WWE had a genuine plan
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: to revamp its tag team division. And I don't just
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: mean adding one team or two teams. Oh look, we
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: got casts An Enzo back. Oh my goodness, this is
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: amazing tag team rebirth and WWE no adding one or
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: two new teams is not going to be enough. That
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: entire division needs to be gutted and renovated from the
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: inside out. Failing that, this is not going to last,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: and I think it limits Bill's potential as a single
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: start for them if this is all that they plan
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: on doing with him. Had my forbidden door review on
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: last week's Uncrowned Wrestling show, and thank god I did.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I was so happy to just wrap up my notes
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: on Sunday night slash Monday morning and just go to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: bed when that pay per view finally ended. The best
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: decision I could have made. And Tony Kahan finally heard
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: the pleas of their East Coast fans as he announced
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: that he has moved the start time for their next
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: pay per view redemption on the twenty sixth, up by
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: an hour, from eight pm Eastern to seven pm. All
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: In We're not going to have that problem because they're
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: going to be in the UK, so that show probably
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: starts around noon Eastern noon or one pm Eastern, which
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: is fine. Then we'll see if he sticks with the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: seven pm start time for all Out or if he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: just goes right back to doing it the old way again.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: If he insists on keeping these shows in the evenings,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: then he should keep them at seven or even six,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: even six pm with a five pm start for the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: pre show, but seven o'clock look, I want to look
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: at gift Horse in the mouth. If it's seven o'clock,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: seven o'clock is better than eight. But I mean to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: start the main card at eight pm and go to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: twelve thirty or one o'clock in the morning. When you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: send your main event out to the ring and it's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: twelve fifteen in the morning, it's just obnoxious. I don't
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: give a shit what time zone you live in. He's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: got to tighten this shit up. Very good show, not
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: nearly as good as double or nothing, But those last
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: three matches were all great. Will Osprey and Mercedes Monette,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: they win the owen Hart tournaments, and Team Briscoe wins
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the cage match over MJF and the don Kallis family,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: which is one member smaller now with Andrade going full babyface.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: So now the only question is is he wrestling MJF
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: at Arena Mexico next month or is he wrestling Kenny
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Omega for the aw World title. Whoever the world champion
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: is come. What is it August fifth? I believe is
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: when they're doing Grand Slam Mexico. That's the only place
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: where Androde should get that title match. But because Team
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Briscoe picked up the win. Mark Briscoe earned his World
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Championship shot against MJF on Dynamite this past Wednesday, and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: he lost. Of course he did. Now we can get
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: that out of the way and we can get to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the title matches that people are actually waiting to see.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like he was injured in the process.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: There was a backstage promo on Collision with the Conglomeration,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: which Briscoe was not present for. Kyle O'Reilly said because
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: of Briscoe's injuries, they don't know when they're going to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: see him again, and Brian Alvarez is reporting that whatever
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: the injury is, it is said to be legit and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: not storyline, So we don't know what the injury is.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: We don't know how serious. It is serious enough that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: based on how they scripted that segment on Thursday, it
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: sounds like we may not see brisco for a bit.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: They have since announced that Kenny Omega is going to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: challenge MJF for the AW World Championship, not at their
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Redemption pay per view, but this Wednesday on the Beach
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Break episode of Dynamite, which Tony Kahan is really loading up.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: It's like a mini pay per view. It's going to
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: take everything that Tony has within him not to a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: five hour show. Now that I've said the magic acronym there, PPV.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Don't do it, Tony. They're doing it on Dynamite, which
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense to me that they're
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: not waiting for Redemption. Dave Meltzer says the match was
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: not originally scheduled to take place on Dynamite. The original
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: plan was for it to happen in Montreal at Redemption,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, the decision was made to do
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: it this week. Now, maybe it'll become more clear why
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: that is after this show on Wednesday. I was thinking
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: maybe it has to do with mjf's leg, which was
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: still heavily wrapped on TV. But yeah, he worked the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: cage match on the pay per view. He came back
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: and worked a singles match on Wednesday, and he looked fine.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: He was in at least four different segments on that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Dynamite show alone, maybe five, teasing multiple matches, So I mean,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like he's hurt and he's got to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: drop the belt early because he has to go away.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: These two they already wrestled in April on pay per view.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of them wrestling here. They're
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: just gonna run it back again at Redemption. Just do
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: it at Redemption. If they're not gonna do it at
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Redemption for some reason, then okay, I guess we're gonna
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: get it on Wednesday. But again, if the idea is
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do it here and then we're gonna do
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: it again, that I don't like. I think that's that's unnecessary,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: especially with the big stipulation. I haven't even mentioned that yet.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: They're not just wrestling for the World Championship on Wednesday.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: The stipulation is the stipulation that MJF shows for his
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: last match, the Texas Death Match with Hangman Adam Page.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: If MJF wins, and that's what he said, if he wins,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: not if Kenny fails to win the title. Just if
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: MJF wins and Kenny Omega loses, just like his old
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: pal Hangman Adam Page, Omega can never again challenge for
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: the aw World Championship. He will fall to the same
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: stipulation that locked out Cody Rhodes and locked out Hangman
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Page from ever again challenging for that belt. So they're
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: running back the same stipulation they did only a few
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: months ago. But that's sort of been mjf's gimmick in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: the past. Remember when he used to have guys run
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: through the labors. I know, we had the Five Labors
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: of Jericho and then I'm I'm almost positive he did
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: that gimmick at least one more time with somebody else.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was Punk or or who
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: it was, but this is what he does. And I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: was thinking, like, Okay, how do they get out of
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: this without just having Omega win the belt. One way
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: would be for there to be no winner. Then the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: stipulation wouldn't apply, so that could be a double disqualification.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: That could be a time limit draw, which would mean
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: they go the full sixty minutes. That would be one
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: way out of that. But what's the point, Like, let's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: say they do that, they do a double DQ, they
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: do a sixty minute draw. Why what is the point
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: of doing that to kill the stipulation and just run
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the match back again three weeks later without it? It
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe this is
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: a way of bringing back Hangman to help Omega win
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: the belt and Kenny goes into Redemption as the champion,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: but why give Kenny his redemption three weeks before Redemption?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: That's my issue with this. I'm hoping it makes more
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: sense after the show on Wednesday, because right now this
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: seems just very weird to me. It's a big main
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: event though. I mean, look, it's a big main event
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: for them to promote for this show second straight week
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: that MJF is defending the World Championship on TV. In
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: addition to this, they've announced Kenoski Takeshta will defend his
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: international title at Beach Break against Kyle Fletcher. And this
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: is another match where it's like, why not do it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: at Redemption? Why not do it at Wembley. This at
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: least makes sense if they're going to take the title
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: off of Takesha, which I feel like they are. It
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: makes sense because Takesha is in the G One again
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: this year. You know, he won the G One Climax
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: last year. He's in this year's tournament as well, which
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: kicks off on July eleven, which means he's going to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: be in Japan for the next month. He's not going
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: to be here for Redemption. He won't be back until
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: two weeks before Wembley, so it would make sense to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: have Fletcher win the belt here and then Takeshta Getz
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: his rematch in London. Maybe they could do a three
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: way with Okata involved, Chris Jericho and Tamaso Champa. They're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: gonna have their match on Wednesday, and they're doing a
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: women's casino Gauntlet match for a shot at Tekla's aw
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Women's World Championship at Redemption. Athena. We know will enter
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: the gauntlet at number one, Maya World will enter at
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: number two. Teacher and student. I don't think either one
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: of them are winning. I think we get the return
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: of Willow Nightingale in the Gauntlet to win the entire thing.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I think she's gonna be wrestling Tecla, and if I'm
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: right and she does, I think Willow wins the Women's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: World Championship at Redemption and then she defends against Mercedes
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Monet at all In. Willow is on her way back.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: And they only this week crowned a new TBS champion
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: because he wanted to do one of these Survival of
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: the Fittest matches. They've had qualifying matches on TV now
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: for a few weeks so even though Willow she vacated,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: she forfeited the title in May. We only got a
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: new TBS champion this week and she's already on her
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: way back. She may be back on TV this week,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: but we do have a new TBS champion. Her name
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: is Hikarushida, which eh, not a fan of that move.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Persephonie was right there. Queen Aminado was right there, not
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: a fan of that. Darby Allen got married last weekend
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: in Seattle to a lady named Sarah, who he first
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: met on the school bus as they went to the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: same high school. It was very much a Darby esque
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: wedding with mechanical bulls. Brody King was there chopping Darby's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: father and Darby's mom body slammed him onto a pile
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: of thumbtacks. His wife also works as an ICU nurse,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: which is gonna come in very hat being married to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Darby Allen. But he spoke to John Alba of Sports
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Illustrated after McK foley named Darby earlier in the week
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: as a dream opponent of his, and Darby told John
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Alba he has absolutely no interest in wrestling McK foley.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: He said, I would never wrestle Mick. I would never
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: wrestle against Mick what I team with him? Absolutely. I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: would team with him in a heartbeat, just like I
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: would never wrestle Sting. I would love the team with him.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing for Mick to answer. What does
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: he feel in his career that if he would even
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: need that, If there's any questions unanswered. I don't feel
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: like I would get out of it what we want.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot more meat on the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: bone with me teaming with him. I just don't think
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: I would get out of it what I would think
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: I would. I wouldn't want to go out there and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: have that with somebody like Mick that a lot of
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: people are saying he doesn't need to be in the ring.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: If he's going to be in the ring, I want
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: to do everything to help him, like by his side.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: It's just not something that interests me. Though he's referring
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: to a singles match, it sounds like he doesn't want
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: to do the crazy stuff he usually does. To a
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: sixty year old man that he looks up to with
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: more concussions than there are stars in the sky, it's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: a lot easier for him to do that to a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: younger guy that he doesn't have that emotional attachment to.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: So that's what I get out of it, And also
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: just him wanting to help Mick if Mick is going
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: to come back. He understands that Mick is going to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: have limitations. He hasn't been a full time wrestler. He
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: has a wrestled like a real full match in years.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: He's sixty ish years old, right whatever, he is now
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: sixty sixty one, He's had a litany of injuries and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: hip replacements or knee replacements, and so he wants to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: be in a role that will help make Mick look
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: the best that he can be. It makes sense. It's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: the same thing he did with Sting. He understood Sting's limitations.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Sting's an older guy. There's stuff he can do, there's
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: stuff he can't do. He probably grew up watching Sting
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: and loving Sting. What can I do to help make
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Sting look like a badass? Right? And it was such
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: a smart thing that Tony Kahn did, One of the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: smartest things he ever did. When you look back on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: different creative decisions and all kinds of decisions that have
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: been made in aw was the pairing of Sting and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Darby Allen. It was a way of protecting Sting. So
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: that's what Darby would like to do to make if
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Mick is insistent on getting back into the ring, which
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: he will, and I don't think it's going to be
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: just for a tag team match, although a tag team
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: match would be the better way to go frankly if
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Mick wanted to get back in the ring, but I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: don't think him and MJF are going to let that
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: match slide. I think the two of them probably want
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: to work together at some point, but doing the tag
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: team thing, honestly, would make a lot more sense. So
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: that's the main news. There's a couple of other news
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: in notes, so I'm going to weave them into the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: mail bag here. We got a bunch of questions, so
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: we'll just dive right into it. If you have questions
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: for the mail bag, you can always email me the
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Solemn Monster at gmail dot com. Please include your name
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: and where you are writing in. From Andrea from Saint Paul, Minnesota.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you for reading my email on the sound off
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. That's never happened to me before
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: on any podcast that I listened to regularly. Well, that's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: why this is the best one. I try to make
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: it interactive. I was listening to what Triple H had
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: to say about WWE on Stephen A. Smith's podcast. For
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: him to place blame on fans and say that the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: product is supposed to just be fun and that people
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: can sometimes take it too seriously makes me laugh. Can
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: you imagine if David Stearns or Steve Cohen said that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: about the Mets. Well, they can't say that because there's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: nothing fun about the Mets right now. So I didn't
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: get a chance to talk about this last week. Triple
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: H was recently on the Stephen A. Smith Show and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: he was asked if he had a message for fans
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: about the WWE product, and I lifted the quote, So
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: this is what he had to say. I think that
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: we bring an event to you that is always going
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: to be exciting, that is always going to surprise and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: delight you, and we bring a little bit of something
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: for everybody. So there's the entertainment component of a Dan Hausen.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: There's the serious component of a brock Lesner and a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Roman Reigns and a Cody Rhodes, a Rhea Ripley and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: a Becky Lynch and a Jade Cargill, where there's that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: serious nature of it, but the storylines keep you hooked. Well,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that's debatable, and if you haven't watched in
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: a bit, always tune in because the one thing about
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: WWE is the story never ends. So when you come
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: to the end of the Knicks winning the big game
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: in our world, the next night it starts all over again,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: and there's always fresh. There's always new. There's I got
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: to stop there. Oh my goodness, always fresh and always new.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I have to compose myself here before I move on.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: There's always something big happening, So even if you've missed
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: out for a bit, you can jump right back in
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: be a part of those stories and be a part
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: of those epic moments. So there's something for everybody, and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: that's our goal. That's what we try to do, is
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: be a little bit of something for everybody. The other
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: aspect of that is I think that people lose perspective
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: of sometimes is we're just fun and sometimes people take
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: it too seriously. Sometimes people get too caught up in it.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: But it's there to entertain. Man, there's a lot of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: stuff going on in the world. If you just want
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: to turn off for a couple of hours and tune
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: into something cool that you can just lose yourself in
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and have a good time. WWE is the place to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: do it. And if you've never seen it live, I'm
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: telling you, come to a live event, come to one
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: of our ples, come to a TV. There's nothing like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: it in entertainment. And I know that this angered a
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: lot of fans because it sounds very similar to what
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: he said to Peter Rosenberg. How about what we just
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: got from Sammy Z. Sorry Pete, you're never going to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: live that one down. But in that interview with Rosenberg
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: before WrestleMania last year, TRIPLEH famously opened his answer with
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: this is gonna sound defensive, which when you open the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: line with this is gonna sound defensive, it's because you're
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: being defensive. And then he said, I wish I could
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: tell people to fuck off being a critic, be a fan.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Go watch this and be a fan, which only diminishes
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: legitimate criticism of the product when you lump everyone together
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: like that, like him having an axe to grind with
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: the Meltzers and the fight full types spoiling surprises, which
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: is something he also addressed in that interview that sort
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: of thing, like, I can totally understand his frustration with that,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: but that's been a part of the wrestling business literally
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: for decades. Okay, there just wasn't any real social media
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: platform outside of RSPW and message boards in those early days.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: But for as long as Meltzer and Wade Keller have
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: been around for there have been spoilers behind the scenes,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: news has been reported on for those who wanted to
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: seek it out. It's just a lot more ubiquitous now
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: than it was back then. It's one thing to be
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: upset about that, but to say fuck off being a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: critic makes him sound thin skinned and insecure because everybody
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: who was glazing him when he first took the job
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: from Vince right, he went through this honeymoon phase until
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: people started realizing that this shit's not as good as
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: it was before, and he didn't like hearing that, And
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: part of that was Vince being gone. People were happy
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: to get someone different in the position of head of creatives,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: someone who had praise heaped upon him for NXT Black
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: and Gold. There was a lot of optimism here. Oh,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: he's going to bring that to the main roster. This
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be great. But as time went on,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: people started to sour again on the product. Could part
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: of it be that he has different masters to serve
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: and TKO sticks their noses in it doesn't belong. Sure
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: could be. But at the end of the day, the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: buck stops with him as the chief content officer, as
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: the head of creative and when people are bored with
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: the product, or they do something that people don't like,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: you're gonna hear about it. And we hear him say
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: it all the time. Him and Nick con right, We
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: don't pay attention to social media. Social media is just
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: a vocal minority of the fan base. And I say
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: it all the time. For the people who love to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: say that, they sure do spend a lot of time
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: talking about something that they claim has no real measurable
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: impact on the product, except when it does, because they
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: absolutely pay attention to what's being said on social media.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: When he tells Stephen A. Smith, oh, sometimes people take
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: this stuff too seriously, He's not wrong. We do. I
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: admit it. I care way more about this shit than
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: I should and about things not making sense. Now everything
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: is going to make sense at all times. It's pro wrestling, right,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: it's not astrophysics. But I also think it's lazy to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: use it as a catch all for all criticism right
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: of anything on the show. Oh, it's supposed to be fun.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Just watch it and have fun. Just be a fan. Well,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: being a fan means different things to different people, genius.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: We all consume the product differently. Some people can watch
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: it the way that they did when they were twelve, right,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: take it at phase value, Maybe watch it with their
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: own kids. Don't pay attention to all the online shatter.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: You go ahead and yeat with jay Usso when he
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: comes out sing Roman reigns to the ring and go
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: about their day. Other people like analyzing things and dissecting things,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: or debating things with their friends, or listening to podcasts
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: and watching YouTube shows that talk about wrestling. Maybe they
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: were in the sports bubble and so they do that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: with the NBA and MLB. They love the analysis, right,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: they love talking about it. That's fun for them, even
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: when the shows themselves are not fun. You know how
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: many people I have who watched the streams when I
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: do them on you U Tube, who tell me I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: don't even watch these shows anymore. I gave up on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: SmackDown or I gave up on Raw, I gave up
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: on Dynamite. I don't even watch the show's week to week,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: but I tune into your reviews because they're more fun.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I hear it every fucking week. You don't have to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: take my word for it. You guys see it if
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: you're there. You see it in the chat, you see
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: it in the super chest that come in. I get
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: that every single week. For some people, that's where they
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: find their fun. They don't want to completely stop watching wrestling.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: They don't want to completely divorce themselves from wrestling because
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: they still like it or they still love it. They
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: may not love it that week, or they may not
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: love what it's become, but they don't want to completely
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: cut themselves off from it. So maybe this is their
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: way of kind of staying in tune with what's going on. Right,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: they can find their fun some other way, like watching
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: people reviewing the shows, or chatting with other people on
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: social media on x on Reddit, on discord, whatever it
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: may be. Just because people consume the product in different
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: ways does not mean that you only cater to one
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: segment of the audience and tell everybody else to fuck off.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: By his own logic. Movies and TV shows are entertainment, right.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: They're meant to be fun, so you shouldn't spend your
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: time criticizing them or analyzing them or rating them. Just
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: watch them and have fun. Do you know how dumb
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: that sounds. People have been dissecting and debating TV shows
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: and movies for years. This is not something unique to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: the wrestling business. The next time Triple H goes on
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: one of these ESPN shows when they're promoting one of
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: their upcoming plees for the fucking app, I would love
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: for him to go on there and look at some
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: of the people that are on set with him, who
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: are part of other debate shows on ESPN every day
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: where they talk about different sports and they talk about
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: different players and trades and games from the night before,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: and they criticize and they pick them apart, And I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: want him to look them dead in the eye and say, hey,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: why don't you just have fun? Why don't you fuck
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: off and just be a fan and see what their
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: reaction is. Steven A. Smith is one of the biggest
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: offenders when it comes to that. Right in Triple H's eyes,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Why doesn't he look at Stephen A. Smith and say Hey, Stephen,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I got some advice for you. Why don't you fuck
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: off and be a fan. WWE right now is charging
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: the highest ticket prices that they have ever charged in
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: the history of that company. Are you telling me that
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: those fans don't have a right to voice their opinion
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: if they thought the show sucked or something didn't make
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: any sense. Is he gonna tell those people to fuck
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: off too and be a fan? So I think we
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: can all admit, like, sometimes we may take this stuff
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: too seriously, but we do it because we are fans,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: even when we may not be fans of what they're
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: actually doing at the time. Because if I didn't care
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: about pro wrestling, I would have given up on it
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: a long time ago, long before I started doing this
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: show or making a living at it. Do you know
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: how bad those shows were? If you go back all
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: those years when I wasn't making hardly anything, but I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: was doing it because it was fun. I was building
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: the channel, I was doing the weekly show. My god,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: there was some terrible shit. It's a miracle I didn't
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: give up on it back then. Look At how fucking
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: terrible the Mets are right now, right They're an embarrassment
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: of a baseball team. They haven't won a championship since
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six. I can sit here and tell you
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: this team is an embarrassment and still be a fan
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: because I want to see them get better and not
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: be a punchline anymore. Sports talk radio is filled with
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: people bitching and moaning every day about their favorite teams.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I've never heard one general manager or team owner come
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: out publicly and tell their fans to fuck off being
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: a critic. Just smile and enjoy. If the man sounds defensive,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: it's because he is defensive, because he wouldn't be saying
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: this sort of thing if everybody was kissing his ass
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: about how great everything is. So while there may be
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: elements of truth in what he is saying, he still
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: sounds ridiculous saying it. Dak also from Saint Paul, Minnesota.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of sound off fens in Saint Paul.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: On last week's SoundOff and Uncrowned, you talked about what
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: WWE should be doing with bron Breaker going forward, and
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: you suggested a baby face turn. This got me thinking
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: about what WWE has done with him recently. In hindsight,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: do you think WWE made a huge mistake by not
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: putting the title on him after Set's injury. The cards
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: were laid out for that to be the logical move,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: but instead they went with a five and a half
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: month Punk rain. Do you think that maybe Broun should
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: have defeated Punk shortly into his reign, well, when they
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: had that Saturday Night's main event show and they did
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Punk and jay Uso last year. Instead of doing that,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: my recommendation was to just scrap the Rocket to Braun
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: and launch him. Now I could look back on the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Punk thing. He had this great match with Roman Reigns
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: or WrestleMania right it was fantastic and it was a
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: lot bigger, admittedly than anything they could have been doing
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: with bron Breaker. But right now they should be launching,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you know, these young guys up as much as possible,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: and not just Olba Femi Olba Femi, Jacob Fatu bron Breaker.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: These guys should be built right now as the future
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: core of this company. Yes, I would have put the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: championship on bron Breaker. For all the people saying, oh,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: it's too soon, well, sometimes circumstances dictate that maybe right
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: now is the time. Maybe it is the time, Maybe
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: not everybody needs that slow burn right that they give
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: to a lot of people, which is great, but that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean you need to do it with everybody.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Would I put the belt on bron Breaker instead of
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: CM Punk, Yes, I would have. I think that was
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: the move to make at that time, and I think
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: that would have gone hand in hand with really portraying
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: him as this kind of badass leader enforcer type for
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: the Vision because he goes out wins the championship. Right now,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: he's the fucking man instead of just being relegated to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: a background player like he was before. Derek from Arkansas,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I was listening to you and JD on TNT talk
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: about jay Usso and why they put him in the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: positions that they do on the show. JD even mentioned
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: why not do Oba and Javon in the finals. But
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: listening to Paul Hayman's interview and him talking about Triple
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: H is not just booking for the show anymore. He's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: booking for sponsors in the algorithm, and it finally clicked
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: for me. I'm convinced that they put jay Usso in
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: these spots for the lone reason that they know it's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: going to drive engagement to their social media. They know
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: it's going to piss people off and they're going to
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: go into their comments and complain. I one hundred percent
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: believe they are booking for online engagement over a better
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: show and it is a damn shame. So I explained
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: this earlier in the podcast, as I did to JD
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: on TNT on Tuesday. Why we did not get Obafemi
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: and Javon Evans in the King of the Ring finals,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: why jay Usso was in the finals, why they didn't
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: do rollins against bron Breaker in the finals. They have
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: their reasons for why these things were done or not done.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Whether we agree with it or not, there are people
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: that they want to make sure get a spot on
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: these shows, and I agree with you, it's not about
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: what makes for the best wrestling matches. It is about
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: online engagement. They book for engagement, they booked for moments,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: they booked for viral moments. It's a very different way
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: of doing things than twenty years ago or thirty years ago.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: But the world has also changed in those thirty years.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: You know, technology has changed, the way fans engage with
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: the product has changed. That's going to affect the way
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: they book their shows like gone are the days of
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Vince McMahon having Pat Patterson and Bruce Pritchard over to
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: his house to sit by the pool and book out
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the next six to twelve months of TV based on
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: which stars they want to push, who they want in
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: those spots, what those stories are going to look like.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: You know, Hayman mentioned the algorithm, this mythical algorithm that's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: always changing. It absolutely influences everything they do. It may
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: work for their engagement, but it doesn't always make for
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: a very interesting television show. But this was Hayman's quote
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: from that Chris Van Vliet interview. By the way, I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: pulled it to give some content for the people who
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: may not have watched it. This is what he said.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Paul Avec is not the chief creative officer in WWE.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: He's the chief content officer and that designation, I think
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: is the tell all moment as to his approach to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: the responsibility and accountabilities that go with the job. He
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: is the chief content officer in erra where technology rules
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: the algorithm and the algorithm dictates creativity. Think about that.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: By the way the algorithm dictates creativity, that's not good.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: It can be the most creative and the most innovative
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: booking you've ever seen. But if it doesn't feed the algorithm,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: no one is going to see it. You have to
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: please Netflix, you have to please NBC Universal, you have
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: to please Disney and ESPN. You have to please the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: purchasing audience. You have to please the talent. It's true.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: They have many masters that they have to serve. It's
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: not like it used to be, when it was what
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Vince wanted and then they had to deal with USA
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Network and that was it. Now it's NBCU for USA
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: and Peacock, it's Netflix, it's ESPN, it's the CW network.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: It's TKO who want Pat McAfee to be part of
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: the WrestleMania main event, and it ruins the product. It
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: just sucks the fun out of it. And by the way,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: this is as good of a place as any to
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: talk about that Hayman interview, just a couple of other
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: things since I didn't have time to get into it
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: last week. He mentioned in the interview that Vince McMahon
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: initially rejected the Tribal Chief name because he really wanted
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: to keep Roman reigns. When he came back as the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: big Dog he said, the first time I came up
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: with tribal chief. Vince said, really, you want to call
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: him the tribal chief. Vince wanted to call him the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: big dog. Roman reigns with his advocate Paul Haman. I said, well,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: I can't be his advocate. As brock Lesner's advocate. We
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: have to have something different to Roman reigns, and Roman
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: reigns has to be different. You have to pull the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: trigger on this. This has to be as much of
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: a seismic shift as the Dead Men becoming the American Badass.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: This is a whole new character. This is a whole
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: new persona. And he could not have played this persona
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: earlier because he was too young to do it. He
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: needed to weather the storms to become the tribal chief.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: We grew up with him almost like he was a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: child star, and that we saw him from his young
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: days fresh out of college, and he grew up into
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: this tribal chief. You know, it was Roman's idea to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: come back as a heel in twenty twenty, It was
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: not Vince McMahon's idea. And if he did not allow
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Roman to come back as a heel the way that
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: he wanted to. Roman Reigns was ready to retire and
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: not come back at all, like he and Hyman told
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: ESPN that a few years ago he had newborn twins.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: At the time, they had just moved into a new home.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: He had millions of dollars already in the bank. He
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: had headlined WrestleMania like four times already. By that point,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: he had just come off his second bout with leukemia.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Right he was coming off that got off feud with
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Baron Corbin and the dog food angle right before the pandemic.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: He didn't need to come back. So finally Vince relented
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: and we got healed Roman and they let him be
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: the tribal chief and the rest is history. But if
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Vince McMahon had his way, we wouldn't have had any
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: of that. He would have been back as the baby face,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: big dog. Roman Reigns on why things didn't work out
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: with Csorrow and with Curtis Axel as Paul Haman Guys.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Hayman was very critical of WWE's handling of Claudio Castigdoli.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: He said, you look at Cisorrow and he checked, especially
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: at that moment in time, he checked every box to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: become a top star. Everyone who got in the ring
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: with him came back into guerrilla saying give me him everyone.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: I remember John Cena worked with him on TV, and
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: he came back and looked to Vince and said, I
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: could main event WrestleMania with him, and probably could have
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: and should have. Cisorrow was placed in that position the
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: day after brock Lesner conquered the streak, so that when
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Brock took his hiatus, I had an excuse to be
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: on television to say my client, brock Lesner conquered the
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Undertaker's undefeated streak at WrestleMania, and you needed an excuse
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: to have me out there on TV. If you put
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: me on commentary, I can't say it for two or
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: three hours. I have to say it with him once
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: a week. Just drill that into your head. Reinforcement, repetition,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: and so Csorrow became the excuse to see me say
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: that line. So I think Cesorrow could have been a
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: fascinating promo if he was given a chance to do
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: that in WWE. He wasn't, And that's our fall. That
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: is a major fumble. That was a crime that was
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: committed against the career of Cesorrow, and a crime that
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: was committed against the audience for not allowing this gifted
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: performer to do what at the time certainly he could
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: do better than most anybody else on the face of
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: the planet when you realize what he's capable of. What
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: an opponent he could have been for brock Lesner had
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I turned on Cesorrow when we built him up to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: be a threat to Brock, the matches the two of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: them could have had or mind boggling a tremendously wasted opportunity,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: and no one for us to blame but ourselves, including me.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: I've been saying that for years. I mentioned that a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: few years ago, actually because Hayman had done one of
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: those inside the Ropes one Man shows in the UK
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: years ago, and that was the first time I heard
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: him say that, where they asked him like what happened
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: with Cesorrow? And he said, do you want to know
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: why they put me with Csorrow? It was never about
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: pushing Cesorrow. They wanted me to have a reason to
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: show up on TV when Brock wasn't there for three
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: four five months, so I could continuously drill it into
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: your head that he conquered the streak. He conquered the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: streak he conquered the streak. They never had any intention
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: of pushing Cesorrow as any sort of serious threat on
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: the main roster. And it drives me nuts every time
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I'm reminded of this and I go back and I
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: think about it, because at the time, my whole thing
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: was when I thought that naively they were trying to
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: push this guy because look how fucking over he was
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: when he bodies Slam, big show out of the ring
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: in that Andre battle Royal WrestleMania. Then he showed up
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: on Raw the next night, and when it became clear
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: that Hayman was with him, people were going nuts for it.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: This is back when those posts WrestleMania crowds actually had
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: a pulse and they had some life to them, and
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, man, this is great. This is gonna be
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: the biggest opportunity of this guy's career. And when Brock
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: eventually comes back. My thing is like Hayman going out
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: there every week and constantly putting over brock Lesnar, even
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: though he's standing next to Cesaro. That's got to get
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: to Csorro, right, It's got to get under his skin
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: at some point, and so eventually Brock's going to be
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: back and maybe Csorrow will be out there with them
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: and he's going to feel overlooked and it's gonna all
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: blow up and then you can get a match out
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: of it. At some point, just one match, one pay
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: per view match is all you need. And I said, like,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: do it at the Rumble. Build it for the Royal Rumble.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: You do a title match at the Rumble. The title
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: match of the Rumble is hardly ever the emphasis of
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: the show, very rarely. So if you don't really look
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: at it as I don't know about that as a
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: pay per view main event, then do it at the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Rumble and maybe it's a one off. But like Sosorrow,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: this guy he's in there, he's deceptively strong, Like imagine
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: him in the ring with Brock Lesnar and he's Brock's
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: throwing him around. But he's throwing Brock around and people
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: are going nuts. And then of course you know, he
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: eats an F five or two and he gets beat
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: But my god, like, how do you not do that
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: fucking match? Well that's why, because they never had any
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: intention of doing it. It was never about doing that match.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: It was just about we got to just remind people
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: the Brock is the one who broke the streak, and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: when he comes back right, business will pick up again
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: and Csorrow will be forgotten. Kind of like the way
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: they broke up him and him and they literally just
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: went their separate ways. There was no turn, there was
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: no big angle, there was no falling out like I
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: vaguely remember a backstage segment, and they just very politely
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: went their separate ways. And I'm like, they had no
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: plans for this guy, Like, how does that happen? How
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: does that happen? And so what Hayman is saying there
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: was one hundred percent true is it was a fumble
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: on their part. He talks about how if Cesorrow had
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: the chance to go out there and cut promos because
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: he knew five different languages, and that's very impressive. I mean,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: Sosorrow has never been a really strong promo. What Hayman
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: is saying may well be true. Maybe if he had
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: the chance to go out there and cut promos in
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: a different way, maybe they would have resonated. I'm not
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: going to sit here and pretend, as a big fan
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: of his that his promos were so great. They weren't.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: It was his weakness. I still think it's his weakness.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: But again, like to not even to not even consider
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: building to a match like that is insane to me.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: As far as Curtis Axel goes, I mean, his answer
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: was pretty similar, where in the case of Axel, you know,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: he filled the need for there to be people around
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Hayman to feed to cmpunk because Hayman was feeding with cmpunk.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: This would have been twenty thirteen, I believe, And so
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: it's a very similar thing where they never really intended
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: to push Axel. He was just sort of a Nerrick
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: Paul Hayman guy. He does say that when he has
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Vince one day, like what is the what's the plan
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: here with me and Axel? He says Vince's answer was
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: going all the way to the top, But he thinks
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: that's bullshit, you know, and Vince never really saw him
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: as a top guy. I mean I didn't see him
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: as a top guy either. Could they have done more
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: with him? Sure, of course. There's so many guys you
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: could say that about that they gave up on, or
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: that it became clear they didn't really have any plans
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: for and maybe eight out of ten times or nine
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: out of ten times, yes, those guys are not that
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: good to be in the main events scene. That's a
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: very elite group, and not everybody is going to be
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: a main evenor or they'll be a main evenor once
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: and it's not gonna stick, you know. Like there are
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: guys that are in the main events scene for their
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: entire career. There are guys that are trading championships back
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: and forth for five ten years, and guys like Cisaro
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: and Curtis Axel are not necessarily going to be in
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: that category. But to either give up on them or
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: just not even have a plan for what to do
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: with them, to see if they can see what they
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: can really do, it's really it's disrespectful to them, you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like you've got these guys under contract,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: you want to make the most of them, you want
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: to make money with them, and in some cases they
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: cut their legs off before they even give them a
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: chance to walk. And so that was the case with
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: those two. The only other thing I wanted to comment
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: on here is very briefly, and again something Hayman has
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: talked about before, how close he came to joining TNA.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: This was around two thousand and nine, two thousand and nine,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: twenty ten, he did have a meeting with them. He
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: had a meeting with Dixie Carter, and he he wanted
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: to get rid of all of the legends except for
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: Kurt Angle. That was one of his key points in
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: his plan on what to do with TNA if he
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: took over the company. So the guys like Hogan and Flair,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: all the old guys, Hogan and Flair and Nash and Steiner,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: he was going to get rid of all of them.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: He was going to keep Kurt Angle, and he was
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: going to build it around younger, hungrier guys, and that
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: was going to be what TNA would look like from
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: that point forward. He would put a focus on that
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: youth and the idea would be that after thirty six
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: months he would take the company public. He wanted a
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: piece of the company, and then after three years they
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: would take the company public. That sounds very ambitious when
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: it comes to the business side of things. I don't
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: know that Paul Hahman's plan necessarily would have come to fruition.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: But in terms of Paul Haman being there as a booker,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: as a leader in a creative capacity, would that have
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: been beneficial to TNA? Would that have helped TNA grow
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: more than it did, I believe one hundred percent. Yes,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: we'll never know, And I can understand Dixie Carter the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: allure of bringing in a Hulk Hogan. You know, Hogan
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: and Bischoff came in, and Hogan most popular wrestler in
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: the history of the business. Right, everybody knows who hul
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: Cogan is. So of course, why wouldn't you want Hulkgan
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: to be attached to your company? And why wouldn't you
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: want Hulkogan to go out there and do all this
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: publicity for TNA, which he really ended up not doing.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: Bringing in Hogan and Bischoff was more way more of
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: a negative than a positive to TNA. Bringing in Hayman
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: I think would have been more of a positive than
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: a negative, But it's impossible to say, you know, would
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: they have grown to heights never seen before, and would
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: they be so much stronger today than they are? And
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: would they have gone public? They would have gone public,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: But I think the company would have been a lot
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: better off had they followed his vision instead of the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: one that they did. Ryan Egler from Daytona Beach, Florida.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: I watched Brian Zain's video talking about the rise quote
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: unquote and great fall of Ahmed Johnson. After listening to
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: episode nine sixty nine and hearing about the pettiness of
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Piper Niven regarding Jade Cargill, it got me thinking, do
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: you think Jade is similar to Ahmed? Both had or
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: have the look, and both are below average to average
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: it best on the mic. Both received a decent push
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: based off of their appearance, and both have been accused
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: of being rough with their colleagues, making them disliked backstage.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Jade hasn't gotten worse, but it feels like she hasn't
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: gotten much better either. Is Cargill this generation's Ahmed Johnson? Wow,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: it's quite the comparison there. Well, Ahmed was actually more
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: more over and more popular with the fans than Jade is.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: That's number one. People forget like Ahmed Johnson for a while.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: There was super over for a while. But yes, I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: guess I can see the similarities. Like bo, both looked
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: the part. If they just could have matched their in
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: ring with with that with their look, then they would
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: have been made. Ahmed's promos were intense, but I could
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: barely understand what he was saying half the time. Jade,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I can understand just fine, but she doesn't ever have
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: anything interesting to say, right, I mean, promos these days
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: in wrestling in general, are especially in WWE, are just
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: much worse than they used to be. Everything now sounds
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: like a cut scene from a video game, written by
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: people who have no idea what these characters are supposed
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: to be. Backstage interaction like, it's awful, It's absolutely dreadful.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Like That's why I'm grateful when we have these people
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: out there cutting promos, like a Drew MacIntyre or a
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Cmpunk or Kevin Owens, Like, there are certain people who
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: have a knack for it. They have there's an authenticity
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: to what they say, legitimacy to what they say. They
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: sound like real fucking people, and they tend to have
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: interesting things to say. I cannot say that about ninety
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: percent plus of the people on this show, and it
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: isn't necessarily their fault. This is the position that they've
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: been placed in, and not everybody is going to be
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: a great promo. But promos and wrestling today generally speaking, suck.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: They're fucking terrible. Back then, even the bad promos were
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: so much more entertaining than what we get today on TV. Ahmed, though,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: you know he was hurting people, he was hurting himself.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: He injured himself. I haven't heard of Jade car Gill
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: injuring anybody to where they had to be taken off
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: the road. I mean, there's a difference between hurting people
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: and injuring people. I haven't heard that she's injuring people
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: like that was the knock on Naya Jacks for so long,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard that about Jade Cargill. Jade's gonna have
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: a lot more longevity in the wrestling business though, than
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Ahmed had, because when you look the way that she does,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get those opportunities. Like I mean, Jade car
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Gills got a better look than ninety nine percent of
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: the women that have ever set foot in a professional
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: wrestling ring ever in the history of the business. She
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: looks like something out of an Avengers movie. So she
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: is gonna get opportunities, and not just in wrestling, She's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: gonna get opportunities outside of wrestling as well. But her longevity,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: like she's gonna be around a lot longer than Ahmed
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Johnson was. There were a lot of reasons why the
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Ahmed Johnson stuff just didn't pan out. There were a
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: lot of guys in the back that did not like him.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Go listen to Dlo Brown or Godfather or any of
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: these people talk about Ahmed had a chip on his shoulder,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: He had an attitude, He thought very highly of himself.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: He would make comments that these guys thought were very disrespectful.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: Were There were a lot of reasons why Ahmed Johnson
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: was not very well liked. Uh Neil from Chicago. How
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: well do you think surfer Sting would have done in
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: the WWF in the same time period? What would have
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: been his ceiling? Do you think Vince would have pushed
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: him into the WWF title picture or only as an
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: upper mid carter? What matches would you have liked to
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: have seen him?
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: Have? There?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: All of them, Sting and Hogan, Stinging, Savage, I mean,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: you name it, Stinging, Dbiassi would have been a fun feud.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Sting and Jake, I mean they had a feud in
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: WCW a few years later, But like Sting and Jake
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: and eighty nine or ninety, that would have been great.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Imagine Sting in there with Andre. I mean Andre couldn't
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: do much at that point, but I mean there were
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of matches. I would have loved to have
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: seen him have Do I think he would have been
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: pushed to the World Championship, I do, I mean a lot.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: So much of it depends on who Hogan. Like, are
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: you asking me this question if it was Sting and
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: not Hogan in that spot, the answer is unequivocally yes,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. If Hogan was still there, I still
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: think Sting would have been in that world title picture
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: his ceiling I think for him, I don't think he
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: had a ceiling where like he was only going to
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: be relegated to a certain level. Sting had a great
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: look physically, he was in great shape, he had the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: face paint, he could cut a damn good promo, he
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: had a lot of fan support physically, Like, I don't
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: look at Sting and see a small man, right, this
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: is the big man phase of WWF back then. I
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: think he would have done just fine whether Hogan was
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: there or not. But if Hogan wasn't there, then Sting
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: would have been in the Hogan spot. I didn't even
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: mention Sting and Warrior. By the way, they have history
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: together and so if the timelinees matched up, it's like
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: they both won their first world title in the same year,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. But if they would have worked for the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: same company, then they would have been working together even
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: though both were babyfaces. They may have been a tag
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: team again. I could see them doing some tag together,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: maybe building to like a Sting heel turn or something,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: and then you do Warrior against Sting. I think Vince
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: would have turned Sting heel before he ever would have
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: turned Warrior heel Squeaky from Washington. There are a lot
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: of wrestling conspiracies out there, such as Vince Russo being
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: sent to WCW as a plant, the Randy Savage and
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: Stephanie McMahon supposed scandal in the Montreal screwjob being a work. Oh,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: don't forget Kevin Sullivan being a Satanist and murdering ben
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: Wan and his family. Yes, there are people who still
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: believe this. Out of all the crazy conspiracy theories in wrestling,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: is there at least one that you find somewhat believable. Yeah,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: that it was some combination of Nick Cohn, Paul levec
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: and or Stephanie McMahon who leaked those emails to the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal in twenty twenty two about Vince McMahon.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: I do believe that, I just I can't prove it.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: I don't believe any of the really popular wrestling conspiracies
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: like Montreal was a work, No it wasn't. Seamus accidentally
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: won his first WWE championship, No he didn't. There were
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: two Ultimate Warriors, No, there weren't. Macho man boned and underage.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Stephanie McMahon, I don't believe he did. I think Vince
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: would have had him killed. Savage gave Hulk Hogan the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: black eye that we all saw him with a WrestleMania nine.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: That one is at least plausible, but I still don't
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: buy it. If you watched that WrestleMania nine documentary that
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: they put out on Peacock last year, the year before
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: whenever it was, Hogan says he told that to the
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: doctor when he got to Caesar's Palace that day with
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: that black eye and he had to go get checked
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: out by medical and he claimed that he told that
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: story to the doctor to sell him on the fact
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: that it was a wrestling feud, it was a wrestling angle,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: and it was a makeup job, so that the doctor
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: would clear him to work that day. Otherwise, if he
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: knew that it was a jet ski accident and the
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: eye was all fucked. He would never have gotten cleared. Now,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: mind you, this is Hogan saying this, But I think
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: it's more likely he did make up that story to
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: tell the doctor and it got around and people took
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: it as reel that Savage really did dec him in
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: the face. If there's one that I could buy into,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: kind of it has to do with Sean Michaels and
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: his back injury. I believe the back injury was very
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: real and that's what took him out for the rest
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety eight into ninety nine. What I don't
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: buy is that he lost four years of his career
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: to that back injury. I think it was maybe a year.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: I think if he wanted physically, I think if he
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to come back and get cleared within it, within
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: a year, he could have been back in the ring.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: I think the rest of it was him dealing off
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: and on with his addiction issues, you know, and once
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: he got past all of that, that made it possible
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: for him to consider an in ring return. And it's
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: not like he didn't work a match earlier than that.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had his own and he wrestled the
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: match in two thousand, even though he didn't come back
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: to WWE in the ring until two thousand and two,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: So him being gone for that long, they're a four
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: and a half year layoff. That wasn't the back injury.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: I think he was long over the back injury by then.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: That's my theory. It was all that other stuff that
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: kept him out of the ring, and it's good that
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: it did because had he gone back there while he
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: was still all fucked up in the middle of the
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: Attitude era, he would have been dead a long time ago.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: There's no way that Shawn Michaels would still be alive today.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Ronnie from Belgium if the allegations never became public, do
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: you think Vince McMahon would still have sold WWE. Would
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: he have sold it when he did, No, would he
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: have eventually sold it? Yes. Stephanie did not want him
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: to sell it. She wanted to keep it in the family,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: and he sold it anyway, and then when he forced
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: his way back in, she resigned as the co CEO,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: so that's where she stood on the issue. But I
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: think he would have eventually sold it to someone outside
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: the family regardless I just don't think he would have
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: done it in twenty twenty three. Adam Madiac Messoglia, who
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: I have not heard from in forever. I haven't written
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: into you in a while. I hope you're doing well.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about OSW review. Oh,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: I do shout out to the OSW crew. But the
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: guys made themselves something called a boy stable. It consists
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: of five wrestlers, usually not very popular mid carters from
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: any era, that have never held a world championship that
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: they are a big fan of. So I ask you
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: who is in your boy stable? So I ask you
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: who is in your boys stable? I mean, this just
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: sounds so wrong. I have a stable of boys. They're
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: out in my shed, all right. I'm gonna assume guys
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: like Owen Hart and mister Perfect and Razor Ramone they
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: don't count, even though Hennig, I mean Hennig held the
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: AWA world title, so that he shouldn't count anyway. But
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming guys like that don't count. I wouldn't really
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: call those guys mid carters per se. They main evented
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: at different points in their career. They just never stayed there, right,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: or they never held the big one. So I'm gonna
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: put them on the side because those are the obvious ones.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: I would go with Owen Razor, I will go with
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: will I go with I'm gonna say big boss Man
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: is one. I always like the boss Man for like
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: a bigger guy. He always moved around really well. He sold.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: It was so funny watching himself sometimes and even when
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: he came back in ninety eight with the Black Tactical gear,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: and sometimes he would come out and it's like, oh God,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: here comes. You know, you kind of get tired of
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: seeing someone after a while. That's kind of how I
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: felt about him there towards the end. But he had
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: that fun like hardcore title run and the stuff with
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: Al Snow and Big Show, which was a horrible match
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: and he and it was terribly tasteless, but I laughed.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: So I'll go big boss men. I will say, uh
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: bam bam, Bigelow, Steve Blackman, don't fuck with Steve Blackman.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: And uh, let's see how many is That's three?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Dlo Brown, big fan of Dlo. You can't see it,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: but I'm moving my head back and forth right now.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: And let's see one more, one more, one more, if
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: you okay, So, if you listen to this podcast back
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: when I was reviewing NXT week to week when they
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: were still at full sale, this is in the black
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: and Gold days, then you know full well that I
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: was a big fan, a big mark for Tyler Breese
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: when he initially debuted with that gimmick and the selfie
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: stick and the music and everything he sang his own song.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: I was a big Tyler Breese fan. And then of
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: course he got called up to the main roster and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: he was he talking about mid Carter. That's being generous.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: I'll go with Tyler Brees, Big Boss Man Bam Bam, Bigelo,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: Steve Blackman, Di Loo Brown and Tyler Brees. There you go.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: What a faction these days. Actually, there's two more people
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: I could put on that list from AW. I would
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: say Mark Davis and the Blackheart Leo Rush. I'm a
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: fan of both of them. Maybe I would put them
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: in there too, is like two backups. Anyway, thank you
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: guys for the questions. This week coming up is the
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: return of Dark Side of the Ring season seven. It
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: premieres on Tuesday night with a double episode nine pm.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Part one of the Jeff Jarrett TNA story says nine PM,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: Born into Wrestling, Jeff Jarrett builds total NonStop action from scratch,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: battling the WWE through a decade of success and controversy.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: And then at ten PM, Part two, as TNA Wrestling grows,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: Jeff Jarrett faces internal care power struggles and scandal sounds juicy.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: So yes, it's a double episode on Tuesday night. Then
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: it's one episode every Tuesday. There after there is a
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: part three, so Part three will be next week. So
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: I intend to do what I do every season. I'm
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: gonna watch. I'm gonna find a way. I don't have
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Vice TV. I'm gonna find a way to watch the episodes.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna review them. The review will be
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: likely a part of the SoundOff next Sunday. I'm not
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: doing them like that night or anything, because I don't
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: even know what I'm gonna be able to watch it.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: But next Sunday on the SoundOff, that'll be episode nine
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: seventy one. I'll probably include my review there and then
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: they'll go up on YouTube as well as they always do.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: The reviews are always fun. People seem to enjoy them,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: so that'll start this week. We got some big TV
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: shows this week. We got a WWE Championship match in
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: Chicago tomorrow night. Cmpunk rumored to be back on the
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: show as well. Is this gonna be Sammy Zane's last stand?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Probably that's tomorrow. Wednesday's the Beach Break episode of Dynamite,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: and we've got Kenny Omega going for the aw World
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: title against mjf We've got Takeshta putting the International title
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: on the line against Kyle Fletcher. We have SmackDown on Friday,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: so all of the usual post shows on YouTube again.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: We had a big week this week, so hopefully we
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: can carry that momentum into this week. You guys will
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: join me there Tuesday, brand new episode of The Uncrowned
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: Wrestling Show Tuesday Night Live on YouTube on JD's channel
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: for a brand new Tuesday Night Titans. It's going to
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: be a big week. Hopefully not as hot, boy as
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: it sucked here in New York the last few days.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: You know it's hot when you're like in the bathroom,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: you put your hand on the tile and it's like
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: the wall is hot to the touch, Like it's like
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: hell on Earth. Even now, it's not too great in here.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: I turned the AC off just because I want total
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: silence if I can get it when I do these shows,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just have to start running it. And I mean,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: it's just I have no choice. It's just ridiculous right now.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: But hopefully, wherever you guys are, you're staying safe and cool.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, that'll be next Sunday, episode nine seventy one. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you guys had a happy fourth until next time,
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  Speaker 2: be well, stay safe, have yourselves a great rest of
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  Speaker 2: you week. Hopefully you will be hanging with me and
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  Speaker 2: we'll do it all over again next Sunday with a
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  Speaker 2: brand new episode of the sound Off. Until then, take care, guys.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: The Solemn Monster sounds off. So then it was backstage
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  Speaker 2: two Dan Housen's Layer with the Miz and Kit Wilson's
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  Speaker 2: still sitting there, sitting there. You know, they are sitting
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  Speaker 2: there looking very zombie. Five they may well have I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they were electrocuted, so they may well have lost all
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  Speaker 2: control of their bodily functions. For those keeping score, we
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  Speaker 2: have one mute person on this show every single week
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  Speaker 2: who just flanks and lays there while his wife watches helplessly.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have a couple of dudes, one of
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  Speaker 2: whom I should point out is a former two time
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  Speaker 2: WWE champion and wrestle Mania header who sits there every week.
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  Speaker 2: So mostly mute because these two men were previously electrocuted
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago. The fact that Mas is a two time
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  Speaker 2: WWE champion wrestle media headliner. I don't want to hear
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