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I Know... Let's Go (S1 E10, “Forgiveness and Stuff”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott
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  Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, I'm Scott
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  Speaker 1: Patterson and this is the I Am All In podcast
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  Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hey everybody. Hey Amy, Danielle Riley, Hello, Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: what what do we just we're discussing forgiveness. Merry Christmas everybody,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Merry Christmas. Yes, it's uh, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's Christmas in July and we're all you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: all ninety degrees and just got out of the swimming pool,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's it's Christmas for God's sake, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the spirit. I just actually booked my Christmas vacation.
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  Speaker 1: I do it well ahead, planning ahead. Yes, well it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a feeding frenzy and you got you
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  Speaker 1: gotta plan ahead. But so I'm really in the Christmas spirit.
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  Speaker 1: And what an episode that might go two weeks before Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: We should say, as you mentioned that a couple of times,
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  Speaker 1: that it's not it is not quite, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: like in that anticipatory, joyful headspace everybody gets into. When
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  Speaker 1: you said you got uninvited to your parents fake Christmas party,
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  Speaker 1: I laughed out loud when Luke says that so good. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what an episode, My god. And I think some of
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  Speaker 1: the most difficult sledding emotionally speaking for for Lauren. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean she's had some tough episodes to do so far.
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  Speaker 1: I mean as far as you know, the type of
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  Speaker 1: emotional gymnastics that she has to go through on a
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  Speaker 1: weekly basis. But I thought this one was especially especially tough.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just like, why, she's getting through it
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  Speaker 1: beautifully and and there was, you know, a lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's battling her mom, she's been on
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  Speaker 1: roaring everybody's man at her. Um. You know, she's she's
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  Speaker 1: getting a little attitude from me. Uh. You know, overall,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was Um, I don't. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it was my favorite episode. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a big episode. Do you think that's because you're too
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  Speaker 1: hard on yourself? Because I love this episode really and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you you don't because there is so much you
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  Speaker 1: in it that maybe you're judging it. No, No, it's
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  Speaker 1: not that. It just took us out of familiar environs
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  Speaker 1: and here we are in a hospital. You know that's
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  Speaker 1: not familiar. Set pieces that that we're used to or
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  Speaker 1: want to get used to. It's just so. I think
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  Speaker 1: they made a choice that Richard was going to have, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a health issue, and he had to go
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  Speaker 1: into the hospital. What I what I think it did
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  Speaker 1: for me is kind of jarred me out of the
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  Speaker 1: Gilmour world while keeping me in and at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: with so outside of my familiar set pieces what I know,
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  Speaker 1: the Dragonfly or Luke Steiner or Laurelized house or everything
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  Speaker 1: that we're anchored in. It almost and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say this word, I'm not. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be negative. I really don't. It almost came off like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, outside of it's familiar um um scenes,
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  Speaker 1: set pieces and sets, it almost felt like melodrama at
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  Speaker 1: at times. I'm not saying it's an interesting it's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting thought. It didn't bother me. For me, the hospital
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  Speaker 1: scenes were extraordinary. No, no, absolutely, absolutely, But I I
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  Speaker 1: wish they just got him out of the hospital. I
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  Speaker 1: wish they didn't spend so much time in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I wish they got think that's true. The hospital was
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  Speaker 1: probably twenty minutes of the episode. I thought your scenes
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  Speaker 1: with Rory were amazing your scenes with lorea lie where
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  Speaker 1: means amazing, You're scene with Emily amazing that scene. I
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  Speaker 1: like that scene. She knows, she knows, she knows you too,
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  Speaker 1: are a thing a hundred percent. She knew in the
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  Speaker 1: episode when she met you previously. She knows in this one,
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  Speaker 1: and I I loved it. It's it's not difficult for
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  Speaker 1: people of a certain maturity, a certain vintage to know
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  Speaker 1: what younger people are thinking and feeling. That's not difficult,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's obvious. The older you get, the more obvious
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  Speaker 1: that becomes. She knows Laura Lae, even though they have
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  Speaker 1: so many issues and so much drama. She knows, and that,
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  Speaker 1: to me, it just hits me, and I love it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she wrecked her life with Christopher, now she's gonna reck
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  Speaker 1: her life with me. She's she's she's hell bent for
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  Speaker 1: leather yet again. I think Emily likes you. I think
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  Speaker 1: Emily likes Luke. I do too, And I think Luke
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  Speaker 1: likes Emily. Yeah. I think Luke really likes Emily, I
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  Speaker 1: really do. I think he's a little bit afraid of her. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you're so kind to her. Yeah, Well, I mean she
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  Speaker 1: didn't do anything to me. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how much I even I am privy to the trauma
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  Speaker 1: going on between mother and daughter, you know, between between
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  Speaker 1: Laurelie and Emily. I probably don't know a lot because
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  Speaker 1: Laura la Are and I are not that close yet,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know that she shares any of that
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  Speaker 1: stuff with me. I mean, I mean, I know she's
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  Speaker 1: I know she's probably frustrated with her mother because she
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  Speaker 1: comes to the diner at times is oh my mother.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, have I been really so heavily like
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  Speaker 1: am I inner circle Luke with her such good friends
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  Speaker 1: and we're tight and we we sort of talk about
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  Speaker 1: her mother. I don't think we do love Where she's
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  Speaker 1: explaining Richard to you, you know, she says, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what loweral lies told you, but he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a really good father. And you you say, that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what she told me, and whether that is a hunt
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  Speaker 1: of her sent the truth, it was so what she
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  Speaker 1: needed to hear. I mean. Kelly Bishop is an amazing
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  Speaker 1: actress and I love her performance in this episode. Everything
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  Speaker 1: is just so believable. Yeah, she's she's an old she's
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  Speaker 1: a pro. I mean, she's really gifted on top of
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  Speaker 1: being a super pro. I mean, she's just a natural.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to sound sexist, but women are just
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  Speaker 1: such better actors than just are. I think we just
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  Speaker 1: take that as a compliment. They just are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you take you take a mediocre actress and they're is
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  Speaker 1: good as the best actor. I mean it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's women can do anything in front of a camera.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's not even fair. It's not a fair fight.
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  Speaker 1: But I think and that's but but in that situation,
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  Speaker 1: Luke is just being supportive to her. He's he's if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know that Richard's a great guy, he's probably
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  Speaker 1: just saying that to to be classy and to be
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  Speaker 1: supportive in a very difficult time because nobody knows if
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  Speaker 1: he's going to hang on he might die well. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's also because you know, ultimately this relationship with
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  Speaker 1: Morala is not going anywhere, and this woman is going
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  Speaker 1: to be in your life, whether your friends or more.
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  Speaker 1: I just saw it as the groundwork for Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: he I don't think he's he's not strategic, He's not
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  Speaker 1: you know, thinking that way he's just in the moment
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  Speaker 1: and being a solid guy, being a friend. He's being
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  Speaker 1: a friend. He's doing exactly he was. He's saying what
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  Speaker 1: a friend would say. I think he's more well, he
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  Speaker 1: obviously feels a lot more. Yeah, but I think in
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  Speaker 1: this time he's he's not letting that spill over. He
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  Speaker 1: just wants to be a supportives as he possibly can.
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  Speaker 1: He's more of a friend at this point. He feels
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  Speaker 1: like he wants more, obviously, but at this point, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's not seeing this as a way to ingratiate himself.
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  Speaker 1: He's just functioning as a friend. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: I have the benefit of hindsight being I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This episode was powerful and their relationship was like so
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  Speaker 1: evident between Luke and LAURELOI. Yeah, yeah, they they flow
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  Speaker 1: very well together, you know they are. They're not so opposite,
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  Speaker 1: are they. I Mean, it would appear on the service
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  Speaker 1: that opposites attract and they're just very different. But I
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  Speaker 1: think they're very very similar. I think they're both tough
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  Speaker 1: as nails. I think the thing that comes across for
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  Speaker 1: her is she's really tough. She's tough like Emily, and
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  Speaker 1: she when she digs her heel in, heal's in. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't get in her way, and she's not backing down,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he's the same way. So it's I
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  Speaker 1: think that's where it is. They're both very, very similar totally.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought she was so vulnerable in this episode
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  Speaker 1: with you, so what I thought was interesting. And again
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see him sexist, but I felt
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  Speaker 1: like when she got that message, she starts to fall
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  Speaker 1: apart and Luke stepped up, almost like you want the
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  Speaker 1: man to do, or you want your boyfriend to do.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like Luke stepped up. He took control. He
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  Speaker 1: got everybody out of the diner. He's like, Taylor, close up,
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  Speaker 1: have your hot chocolate. Everything's on me, let's go. Luke
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  Speaker 1: took over. You know. I think it took him too long.
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  Speaker 1: I think it took I was waiting for him to
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  Speaker 1: get to kick everybody out and take action. I said, like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, guy, go go go. You're so hard on yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was wondering what is taking him so long?
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  Speaker 1: And then finally he It's like, why is it even
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  Speaker 1: a decision? Why is he hesitating? I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: I was like that. That was hot of hot of Luke,
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  Speaker 1: like go. And then this is what I was saying
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  Speaker 1: to you off there before we started today when in
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  Speaker 1: the diner, Luke is getting everybody out and she's starting
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  Speaker 1: to really lose it and she says, Luke, I'm and
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  Speaker 1: you say, I know, let's go, and I'm atrocious actor.
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  Speaker 1: No, no no, no, that was very convincing. See even like
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  Speaker 1: even you think you suck, you're better than me. I
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  Speaker 1: have watched that scene three times just yesterday, and like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm shook. Like it was so I got chills.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, he's so dreamy
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  Speaker 1: and awesome and he's just handling this and just gets
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  Speaker 1: her up. He's but he's just doing anybody would do
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  Speaker 1: that for He would have done that for Michelle, would
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  Speaker 1: have done that for her if she had gotten that
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  Speaker 1: phone call at the Dragonfly during the day, then they
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  Speaker 1: all would have done that for her. And they would
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  Speaker 1: have been there for her at the hospital. Nope, not
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  Speaker 1: the way Luke did. Nope. Yes, they all would have
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  Speaker 1: driven her. They would have been there for you, not
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  Speaker 1: like the way you did where you understood why she
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  Speaker 1: isn't going in that room and then drive twenty miles
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  Speaker 1: an hour on the freeway. I guess it's icy. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember shooting that? How do you shoot those driving scenes?
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  Speaker 1: Are you on like some weird contraption behind a car? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're behind a We're on a rig, behind a truck.
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  Speaker 1: We're actually off the ground but driving. No we're no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're being driven. The car is on a dolly and
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's actually moving. It's not like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: being pulled around. Yeah. The cameras are set up outside
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  Speaker 1: the car at different angles and we just sit in
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  Speaker 1: the car and I act like I'm driving. I do
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  Speaker 1: this around the Warner Brothers set. Or do you go out? No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we go we go out into the real world and
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  Speaker 1: dude with a police escort. Oh yes, yes, all right,
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  Speaker 1: everybody gonna take a little break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Jane Lynch. This is I Am
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  Speaker 1: All In Podcast with Scott Patterson I Heart Radio. Hi everybody,
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  Speaker 1: we're back. We're talking about Jane Lynch, forgiveness and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Jane Lynch played the hospital. I guess one of the
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  Speaker 1: nurses check in who was preventing laure Ali from going
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  Speaker 1: in and seeing her dad unless she filled out all
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  Speaker 1: of those forms and that was not gonna or no, Emily,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Emily and Emily, boy, what a great scene
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  Speaker 1: that was. And you will see his he will see
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  Speaker 1: his painting in the lobby. He is one of the
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  Speaker 1: founders of this hospital. I immediately, WHOA, there's Jane Lynch,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't remember it from twenty years ago, like
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  Speaker 1: standing out. You know, you know why Jane lynn you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know why Jane Lynch is a star because Jane Lynch.
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  Speaker 1: I remember very distinctly that day filming with Jane Lynch,
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  Speaker 1: and she was not Jane Lynch yet, and and she
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  Speaker 1: really took that entire scene. She did those couple of scenes.
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  Speaker 1: She did very very meticulous about it, very seriously. She
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be as supportive and as good as she
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  Speaker 1: could be and as real as she could be. Um
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was very impressed. I mean most guest
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  Speaker 1: stars do that, but not to the extent that that
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  Speaker 1: she she took it. I mean, she pretty much took
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  Speaker 1: over the set and it was appropriate because that was
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  Speaker 1: her set. That was her space, her character space. That
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  Speaker 1: is her space, not Emily space, not my space and
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  Speaker 1: she behaved that way too, So I thought, how very
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  Speaker 1: tom Brady of her. She's perfect in that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously they like her because she's she plays a
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  Speaker 1: great character on Mrs mais all, Oh, yeah, she's she's done.
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  Speaker 1: She's done beautiful work throughout her career. I mean over
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  Speaker 1: the last she's so and Lynch. I mean, she was
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  Speaker 1: Jane Lens back then. You could see the seats right there, like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that girl. She's super prepared. She knows what she's doing
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  Speaker 1: on set. She wants to get it, not just get
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  Speaker 1: it right, she wants to make it great. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: so she was a great scene partner, right, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I was there for all the rehearsals, and you know
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  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't really interact with her, but I
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  Speaker 1: saw her in action. It was it was impressive. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, let's go back to the serious stuff and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll get to the fun stuff. But like, what
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  Speaker 1: else can you remember about those scenes? Because that's hard,
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  Speaker 1: Like Laurea la Lauren has to cry in multiple scenes,
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  Speaker 1: and then the part where she knows her dad's okay,
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  Speaker 1: it just loses it and then you hug her. I'm
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  Speaker 1: like these two people love each other, but it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: even though Luke and Laurel I are just friends. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not denying the tremendous amount of feelings coming out
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  Speaker 1: of Luke and maybe maybe a colonel of of something
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  Speaker 1: happening on Laurels, but um, you know, circumstances have thrown
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  Speaker 1: these two together. But I think he's really just acting
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  Speaker 1: like any friend would act as supportive person. I again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish I'm not trying to diminish it.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't see it as an opportunity to to to
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  Speaker 1: you know, to move the ball down the field as
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  Speaker 1: it was on a relationship, and I I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he sees it that way. And that's not how I
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  Speaker 1: played it. That is I was there, I am the character.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you argue with me. Okay, but here's the beauty.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to bring in producer Riley and Danielle to
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  Speaker 1: weigh in because I know you didn't play it that way,
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  Speaker 1: because I think the chemistry between you and Lauren meaning
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  Speaker 1: Scott and Lauren, Laura lyon Luke, whatever we want to say,
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  Speaker 1: it is real. It's helpable. So as the viewer, you
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  Speaker 1: don't even have to try, because it's just there. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to play it. It's already there. You
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  Speaker 1: just act like you just be the friend, be the
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  Speaker 1: supportive person. That's it. That's the soul of any relationship anyway.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, your friends so be
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  Speaker 1: a great friend. And that's all he was doing. That's
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  Speaker 1: all he knows how to do with her. Okay, Riley, Danielle,
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  Speaker 1: what do you guys think when I'm watching, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: he loves her so much. It wasn't even a second thought.
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  Speaker 1: Boom done, dinner closed, everyone, get out, Get in my car,
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  Speaker 1: we're going. And then at the hospital, laurelized, like drive
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  Speaker 1: Rory home. He's like, yep, got it done. Like literally,
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  Speaker 1: it was no hesitation whatsoever, which to me as a
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  Speaker 1: viewer and a fan, I'm like, he loves her so much.
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  Speaker 1: You could you could feel the raw emotions, you could
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  Speaker 1: feel the intensity, you could feel it. And also even
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  Speaker 1: the coffee at the end, like he went out of
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  Speaker 1: his way to get her the coffee. I forgot about
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  Speaker 1: the coffee. Yep, you're so right, Scott. I'm so interested.
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  Speaker 1: Why you don't see it? And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's because your Luke or you know how you did it.
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  Speaker 1: But these two people are in love, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you're just so in it you didn't even have to
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  Speaker 1: try have two words. Santa Burger sant the iconic Santa Burger.
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  Speaker 1: Hey grouchy Luke who still says it's two weeks before Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Come on. He loves her. He's cool about it, he's
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  Speaker 1: not creepy, but he just loves her and she loves him. Uh. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, look, it's a small town. You gotta be careful.
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  Speaker 1: You can't push things. You know, you want people to
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  Speaker 1: continue to come to the diner, right and and and
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  Speaker 1: enjoy your food. I mean, I just you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: a very and whenever she says I'm not being flirty,
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  Speaker 1: it's because she's being flirty. It's like he looked good, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then he smiled. That's all I did. He just
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  Speaker 1: looked at her and smiled. Yeah. It's it's a fun
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  Speaker 1: relationship to play. It really is, because it's just like
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  Speaker 1: a couple of I don't know, it's just like a
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  Speaker 1: couple of really good friends who really like each other
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  Speaker 1: and maybe something's going to happen, but nobody's pushing it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not pushing. They are a couple who just aren't
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  Speaker 1: together yet exactly, and Luke is being patient. He really
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  Speaker 1: because anybody else would. I mean, look what Max Medina
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  Speaker 1: is has done. I mean he's pushing. He's pushing the
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  Speaker 1: narrative like he's like a game show host for God's sake,
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  Speaker 1: and like, you know, it's take take it, take the
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  Speaker 1: deal now, or it's you know, it's like I want
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  Speaker 1: to close this deal. And and you know, Luke's just
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  Speaker 1: the opposite. It's like, yeah, I just think he's very
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  Speaker 1: he's very, very careful with her because he wants to.
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  Speaker 1: He respects that this is a small town. She has
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  Speaker 1: a daughter. He doesn't want to upset her. He doesn't
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: want to loose who's a friendship with her, you know
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I think he I think he really
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: values that friendship. Right once they do this, there's no
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: going back, right, no, right exactly. Rory is so comfortable
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: with you. That's the other thing. It's like you're there
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: in this most personal scary moment for them, and there's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: nothing random about you being there. It's absolutely perfectly normal
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that you are there. My my favorite scene, I think
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in the entire thing is when I'm bent down covering
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: my head because I was avoiding seeing anybody on the guarnee,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and and and and and Rory comes out and says,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: how are you okay looking? Huh. She just keeps It's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: so true. There's still laughs in there. But frankly, it
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: would have been weird if it was Max there. That
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: would have been uncomfortable for everybody, for Rory, for Lore life,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: for Emily. But you being there is like, yeah, of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: course Luke's there. He's he's handling this. But I think yes,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: because he she Laurela trusts him. She trusts that he's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: not going to take it too far. He's not going
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to take it over the line. He's just gonna be
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a rock solid friend to me and do everything I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: asked and be there for me. He's anybody else I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: think in that situation is is gonna you know, I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: just I just I just remember playing it like where
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: dear friends. I'm not thinking about the relationship at all.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to move the ball forward at all.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: The balls moving itself. Nobody has to move it for us. No,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just it's just a question
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of time. It's just a matter of time, and if
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it's right, it's right, we'll know the moment. Yeah, And
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's why he's so comfortable. It's like he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: patient because I think he knows if this is real,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: it'll all work out, So I don't I don't have
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to push this. Yeah, I don't think he's walking away
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: from that, you know, the next morning waking up thinking, Yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's more coins in the bank. No,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be making big deposits, big withdrawals soon. That's right.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have an agenda, doesn't any kind of agenda, Scott,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I have a question for Luke. Answer. He's right here
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: by the way to join us high Luke. So, how
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: did he feel at the end of the episode when
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he got the new hat from water Lize. Yeah, because
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: she's reciprocating feelings and at that moment, don't well, you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: don't seem smile a lot, do you? And he really
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: smiled on that one. I mean for him, that was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like consummating the relationship. I mean he he probably went
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: home and slept with a hat. Are slept with it on.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You know, that was a big deal. That was a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: really big deal. And another thing that really shocked me
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was is I used to have a lot of hair
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and it was all over the place and it was
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: very long, and I just went, God, you know, things
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: change in twenty years, don't they. You look good, Actually,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you look good and I'm not being flirty. You look
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: really good today. I was noticing, like you seem like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you're like beIN and looking good and I'm like, Lorela,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not flirting. I you know, I played some golf,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I went to the gym, I jumped in the pool,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and here I am, you know, tough life, okay, speaking
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of two people in love like Luke and Lorely, Emily
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and Richard. Wow, that scene where Richard wants to talk
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: about the money and the will and she says no,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and she says, I demand to go first. I mean,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna like cry talking about it. But it's like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the the ease with which she she played that scene.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. It's not fair. Women
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: are so much better actors than men. It's just remarkable.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: She was remarking, I mean, you know, we've been getting
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: some emails about what you know, people want me to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: shut up about talking about how we deserve Emmy's and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: like move on and get over it, and said, no,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna point it out every single time
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the bone heads at the at the Academy are not
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: watching this show because if they were and they saw
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that scene. Uh, Kelly Bishops gets nominated every single year, right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, it seems like Masal is getting the Emmy's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: because of the mistakes. They didn't give them to Gilmore.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I mean because Mazel. I don't know about this recent Emmy's,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but in the past they've gotten so many nominations that
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: maybe they're making it up it right, I just think
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's because it's it's worthy of getting awards. It's not
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like they feel like they're owed. But it's like maybe
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just people didn't get it how how brilliant this was,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: or maybe they didn't watch it enough when it was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: on the first time. We have to remember that people
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: discovered it in the masses later they did. There was
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: no you know, this was the first brush with death,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and I think shows that are heavy with death, hospital shows,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: cop shows, that kind of thing. You know, they'll get
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the nominations because they're dealing with death. We we don't
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: deal with that stuff. This is we dealt with that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: one time. M was sort of the first of the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: drama tase too. I mean, I need to like check
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: my facts, so don't everyone cannot at me on that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But it was a full comedy with drama. Yeah, no,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it was. It was a true drama ty but it
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but it also you know, I've had I had this
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: discussion with my wife about the different facets of this
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: show and how many different types of comedy there are
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in the show. There is, in my opinion, the funniest
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: moments come from the most dramatic um setups, and that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: where the real human that's when you come in with
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: a knockout punch with with a funny line or a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: funny gesture or or or hesitate a pause or something
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: like that. It's in a dramatic situation. And there's also
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: kind of like sitcomy stuff in here too, so it's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: sort of like there's you know, there's like there's like
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: bits that go on. So it's like they're they're they're,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they're they're crossing the streams and get she's crossing the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: streams and getting away with it somehow totally. The opening
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: scene is a bit but I think that provided critics
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: or Academy members with you know, that maybe it put
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a little doubt in their minds to the you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: do the do the writers really know what the show is?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: If they don't know what the show is, if it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: not you know, comedic moments coming out of dramatic situations,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and it's also this sort of you know, this almost
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: sticky kind of stuff. Um. You know, then if they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: don't know what the show is, and if they don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: want to define the show narrowly enough for us, how
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: how are we supposed to vote for How are we
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: supposed to get on board with it? Because maybe they
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: felt that that the writing was a little bit out
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of control and a little bit on disciplined. You know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't get in their heads. But
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: it was ahead of its time, Yes, I think it was.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It seamlessly um embraced all different forms of comedy. Um.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: He's the opening scene where they're getting ready for the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even really know what they're getting ready for.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: The Christmas Story, the play, the in a Manger. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing what are they doing? They're
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like getting ready to do the telling of Jesus Nativity,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and the baby's missing its arm and then the dog
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: has it in the arm. And the baby is a girl,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: which Danielle noticed, and not a boy. Well Rory noticed.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It was like, you might want to get a doll
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that's not a girl. Baby Jesus, you know. And so
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: much is happening because Kirk is back and he's being funny.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But then that scene also shows us that Rory and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Lorea Lie are not getting along still. There's all that tension,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: but it's all with this crazy hoop blah and you're
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: seeing the town. I mean, there's so much happening in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that scene. Well that's why all those characters were created,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: so you could do that kind of stuff. It's all
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: sort of background. You know. Let's now we can use
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Miss Patty and Taylor and Sean and you know we can,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: really we can. We can do this scene where there's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: tension between mother and daughter and backdrop as the wacky town.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So it keeps it light, it keeps it all very
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: kind of light, and in that the delivery is very pleasant,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: but then it's sort of resonates on a deeper level
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: because of the backdrop, because it's so contrasting. Well, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: then it's so funny because that sets us up because
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Rory is telling Lane they're calling him our gilepsy boys.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So then later on when we get the joke when
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Lauren makes the quick, you know, witty remark about an
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: arcolepsy boy, I mean, it's all just so hilarious. So
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: much time in that hospital was much time. I think
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it's just because you have a harder time watching you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: and you were in a straight twenty minutes of that show.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I think I was still figuring out the character. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was still trying to find the character with the accent
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and you know, his level of energy and that kind
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of thing. And I liked I actually liked what I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: did in this episode because I pulled pulled it back
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: way back. And I think that's where I'm best is
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: if I just don't lean on it so much, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: because I have a tendency to be a little intense.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And did you think you were leaning on it too
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: much in this I know I liked it because I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: was laid back and just you know, just sort of supporting,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: supporting supporting, supporting in this as a friend in this
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: horrible situation, you know, and just trying to be you
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: know and not be you know. I mean it's it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: in the writing and tells you what you do anyway.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but I liked it. I liked I liked
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I the toughest parts about the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: episode for me was reacting to the people that were
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: being wheeled by and grossing me out, you know, because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the whole episode, because there's just so much going on,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why it's so entertaining, and I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I say, that's why we can watch it three times
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: in two days and you're like, it's still good. Yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: because it's a big tease for the audience because you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: all of the unanswered question is rich You're gonna die?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Are Emily and Laurela are gonna reconcile our Luke and
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Laurela I finally gonna you know, get I mean, there's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: so many The tension that is that is created with
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: with the writing is marvelous because it's coming at you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: from all angles all the time. Did anyone catch the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Moorla calls you honey? Yes? I did catch that you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was intentional. I didn't know
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: if she's sort of She's not a honey baby hooky type,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: so it was like, wow, oh, what do you make
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: of that. I just think that he's again, and I've
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: said it before. I just think he's afraid of her.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I'm he's afraid of getting rejected by somebody that he
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: desires so much and that he sees a future with.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He wants that's his forever woman. There's nobody else for him.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't want to make the move yet. He
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: wants to make sure that it's solid that she feels
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the same way. And he definitely doesn't want to screw
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: up Rory's life by coming in. And you know, if
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the relationship doesn't work out, that drama for Rory, that's
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: tension for Rory. He doesn't want that. So he is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you know, he really is a throwback guy. He's a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: really selfless guy. Um and he's very very careful with
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: her because he's going to survive without her, And I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: think that's part of his appeal to her eventually, like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be okay without me because he's Luke and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he's just gonna go and he's going to open the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: dinner every morning, and he's gonna work hard and that's
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: what he does and that's who he is. And um,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: but wouldn't life be so much sweeter with her? Right? Yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: he's in denial by about how much happier he could
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: be if he'd let her in. But he's so afraid
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of all the things you're saying. But it's like that's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the unknown, you know. It's like he maybe he's not aware.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: He probably well, he obviously feels in the moment that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it could be much sweeter, but on it consistently because
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: he's a guy who's like a day and day out guy.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: What's it gonna be like every day? And he sees
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: what she goes through with her mother and all the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the whacking is that the surrounding this woman
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that comes into her diner, his dinner like a tornado
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: every day, you know, uh, with with the moods changing
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: all the time, and you he honestly doesn't know if
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: he can keep up with her. I think I think
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons. Here's what's coming into my mind,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and I can see it so vividly, the pain on
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: your face when you saw her when you were with
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the reenactors and she's walking with Max through town, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it's like that face, that pain, that emotion comes back
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to my mind and it's like, I it's like I
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: saw that yesterday because we all know that feeling, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Luke felt that, and it's like that's when I knew,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: like this guy loves her. And then everything just completely
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: proves it. Everybody has been in that situation. That is
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a universal feeling. That's why I was so powerful. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: don't know that it was anything I did or or
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that in particular, it was just everybody can relate to that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: You know. Everybody has that person in their life or
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: had that person in their life where they're just like
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they felt so powerless to do anything about it. Maybe
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it was too late, oh the one that got away.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: It's it's just it's just an incredibly smart way for
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the writers to set those characters up because it's a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: universal experience. Everybody has gone through that and multiple times. Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's really weird, But what's happening to me
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: right now? And I want to see what everyone thinks.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Two scenes stand out to me so much of the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: episodes we've seen so far, that moment when Luke sees
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: her walking and I can just feel the pain. And
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: then the other one is when Lane put her hands
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: through that guy's hair because it was so embarrassing. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: both of those scenes are like literally imprinted in my brain.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why those two are the two,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: but it's like, oh God, because they were non verbals.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And that's the power of TV and that's the power,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: that's the true power of film. Oh, it's it's it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it's moving pictures. It's not called moving words. It's called
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: moving pictures, motion pictures, pictures in motion. Yeah, man, yeah, yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the non verbal devastation. Right, Yeah, those two are actions.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I can see them. I can see them in my head.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It's like Ham. All he does is talk and give speeches.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything right. It's a triumph of thought
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: over action, character over plot. Alright, guys, let's take a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: little break. I'm Scott Patterson. This is the I Am
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: All In podcast with My Heart Radio. We'll be back
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: after these works. Yeah, all right, everybody, we're back. We're
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: gonna we're talking funny stuff. What's the funny stuff. Well,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: there is some funny stuff and there obviously narcilepsy boy
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: A little fun fact. Lauren calls for lore Lie says
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that Dean is six but in real life, Jared is
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: how lucky is six four? And I don't know if
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they did that on purpose or just they didn't want
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: him to seem so gigant or well, he was what
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen at the time. Maybe he was just six too.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe still gross, a little Grossbert, What did you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: think of the dinner party, the holiday fake Christmas party?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I gave Dean's I gave Jared some tips on nutrition
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and weightlifting. Is that true? That's true. Yes, he was
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: very concerned about it because he thought he was too
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: lean or he wanted to know how he could bulk up.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: What did you say. I said, there isn't a damn
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: thing you can do about it, That's true. I said,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you'd have to bulk up when you were playing baseball. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I did, but I had, you know, and I'm like him,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I'm naturally thin. And I said, there is nothing you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: can do about it without like completely like ruining your
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: body because you like eat too much or something. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: have no idea. I bulked up through Yeah, eating and weightlifting,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and it just wasn't a good idea for sports. For
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: for when I played baseball, it wasn't a good idea.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: What happens. No, I gained, you know, I gained a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: lot of muscle. I was, you know, I got up
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to about two pounds. How tall are you? I'm a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: shade under six one. So do you remember Jared being
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: tall or were you pretty Eyeline with him? Now he
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: was a little bit taller. Yeah, but he really he
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to beef up and he wanted to like, hey,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know, what what can I do? Because I remember
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: at that time, I was beef I was. I was
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: working out on the gym a lot, you know, because
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I was on this show and my free time, I'd
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: go work out just to you know, get my energy.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And that's how I did it. So I was, I was,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I was getting a little bit beefy, a little bit,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you know, when I was doing it for skiing too,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: because I love this gate. So I wanted to be
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: strong and powerful for skiing, not for Laura Lae. What about. Yes,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that's the reason. That's what I can't talk about. That's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the only reason strong and powerful. But I didn't feel
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like you were strong and powerful so so, but yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: he was, and I gave him some tips. But I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: just said, listen, you're just gonna have to get older,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I said. He said, you're gonna be thin your whole life.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: But if you start eating a lot of carbohydrates when
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you when you hit fifty five, you're gonna you're gonna
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: put all up pounds. Just stop working out. I don't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: think he's quite there yet. We'll have to see, as
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know he's as far as young. I think
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: he's like he's ripped. He's thirty nine and he's ripped.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Before we get into pop culture, Scott, it's Christmas. Can
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you sing us a little Christmas song to get in
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the mood for our pop culture moments? Sure? Yeah, yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I think I happen to have a guitar right here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you in the Chris miss spirit because I'm assuming
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: next week is going to be Christmas, so we really
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: got to get ourselves sing along with me now. Jingle bells,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: jingle bells, Jingle all the way? Now, what fun is?
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  Speaker 1: One horse soup and sligh jingle bell jingle bell jingle
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: all the way? Oh, what fun is? And on one
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  Speaker 1: hole Soap? And Sligh one hole soup and Sligh one
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  Speaker 1: horse open. Well, it's beautiful. I'm Riley and this is
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: your pop culture. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: This song was written by Meredith Wilson. Meredith Wilson incorporated
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: this song into his nineteen sixty three musical Here's Love.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: This song has been recorded by numerous artists such as
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Michael blue Way, Harry Connick Jr. And Megan Trainer, to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: name a few. How about Jimmy Hoffa says Luke. Jimmy
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Hoffa was an American labor union leader who served as
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters from nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven to nineteen seventy one. He disappeared in nineteen
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: seventy five and was declared dead in two because I
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: gotta do what I gotta do. Yeah, I gotta do it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: This is because he became involved with organized crime, which
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: potentially led to his death. He was convicted of jury tampering,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: attempted bribery, and fraud. Do you remember the Jack Nicholson
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: film where he played half A? Did you do you
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: remember Halfa? Do you remember that film? Literally when he
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: goes up to what a performance. I mean when he
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: goes up to when he's like going toe to tell
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: with Bobby Kennedy, who was an Attorney general at the time.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: He hated his guts. This is all blurry in real
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: life and in the movie it's blurry because I gotta
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: do what I gotta dope. Oh man, what a performance,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Laura Lie. I'll never be able to understand what Charro
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was saying. Charo, you know, Charo was a guest on
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Johnny Carson Johnny Tonight Show. I don't know. She was
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: on like almost every week, and she would come on
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: like I mean, dressed to the nines, you know, the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: overflowing up top, if you know what I mean. And
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: she did that when she wasn't on the Love Boat.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: But this was even before she was on I think
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this was even before she was on the Love Boat.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: She was on Carson, I mean almost weekly. He loved her.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He loved her. She would come out and crack everybody up.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And who doesn't love She was just so positive and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: full of energy and and and funny and talented and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: she played the flamenco guitar. Yeah, she's legit. She's legit,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like talented musician singer and players she put Gucci Coucci.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of the Gucci Coucci. Charo's full
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: name is Maria del Rosario, Mercedes Pilar Martinez Molina Beza
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and as we've mentioned, Charo made many appearances on the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Love Boat Between n I just I just remember from
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the Johnny Carson Show. She was fantastic. She was a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: great guest. She was almost she was you know that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he had some great guests, uh, Don Rickles and Dom
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Deloise and all those people, hysterical people. She would come
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: out and like to stay. I mean, she wouldn't stop talking.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: She was just like amazing, amazing personality. Agree, Riley and Danielle.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Do you know who Charo is? I know. I only
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: know Charo because she made an appearance on Jane the Virgin,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite show. I thought you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: were gonna say, wife swap go back YouTube her Charo,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Johnny Carson, just check her out. You're sitting there as
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a kid watching this, going do people like this really exist? Like?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: What is this? This is fantastic? I need one more
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Kuchi COUCHI from Scott Hi, Johnny Cochichi. Laurliz says, where
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: is the Scarecrow when you need him. This reference is
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: this to the Scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz American
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: musical fantasy film produced by Metro Goldwyn Mayor. The Scarecrow
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: joins Dorothy and the hope that the Wizard will give
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: him a brain. The Scarecrow was played by Ray Bulger,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and the face prosthetics he wore ended up leaving Marx
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: on his face for more than a year. Yeah, they do.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I lost face. What did you wear? Prosthetics? They had
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to put a head on a headpiece on me every
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: morning for six weeks. When I played this alien alien
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: nation did I played the tank Tanese commander coming to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Earth doing to enslave all of the escaped uh tank
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Tannis and get him back on my plane for you.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: On that show I remember, you know it was it
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: was It was a TV movie. It was I wasn't
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: in the series. It was a TV movie. I remember
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a different show that I don't know what's called, but
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: there was like you were like in a plane and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like there was an explosion. That was that was the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: event on Nbcito at the show actually ended up like
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a plane crash. Um. That was pretty good. But you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: they would glue that headpiece on you with medical adhesive
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and it would take them an hour to get it
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: off you because they had to be very careful. Um.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I was there. I was in the makeup
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: chair at three thirty in the morning for for seven
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: or eight o'clock. Called time. Makes you kind of love
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Luke that much more right in there. Throw a hat on,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: throw a little powder on me. I'm you know, I'm good.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I lived six miles away from the studio. I just
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: jam in their fifteen minutes form a call time, put
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: my hat on. They throw a little powder on me.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down on the chair. I said, just
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: throw it up in the air. I'll run through it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I'm outta here. Oh my god. And those poor girls,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I mean Laura and Alexis and the poor girls are
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: sitting in the big up chair for hours and hours
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: getting the hair done, the megup perfect. It's like, hey,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you're telling everybody I'm gonna be a breakfast bye bye.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh yeah, oh yeah. But that was
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a different experience. Yeah that so that rips your face
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: apart with you that medical adhesive for six weeks like that, man,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I my face was all jacked up for a year. Anyway,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Our last pop culture references from Rory Roy says,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: no things are still a miracle Worker at my house.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Miracle Worker is a nineteen sixty two film about An Sullivan,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: a blind tutor to Helen Keller, directed by Arthur Pennon.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Helen Keller was great friends with Mark Twain, and although
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Patty Duke had been playing helen Keller in the play
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: for more than a year, she almost didn't get the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: part in the film adaptation. The studio felt that, being
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a teenager, she looked too old to play a seven
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: year old. Also, Helen Keller wrote a total of twelve books.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to give my line, but Scott, can you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: do it with me? Because then it'll just be that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: much better? What's your line? When I said before, I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: gonna do my part and then your part is? I know?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Let's go all right? Right? Okay? You want to you
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: kind of want to do that reenacting thing. You want
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: to you want to reenact, you want to recta getting character.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just have to really do my best acting here. Okay, ready,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't you're a woman. You can
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: do it in your sleep. I'm the one that has
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to prepare. I have to be serious. This is very
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: emotional moment. Luke. I'm just cut stop right, stop it,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: stop it. I'm you can't smile while you're doing it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Give me some directions. I don't stop smiling. All right, listen,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: all right, you want to do a sense memory exercise
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: right here? I'll get you in the movie. Yeah you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: got time for that, all right? So what do you
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: what do you want? You want to be? You want
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to cry a little bit, you freak out a little bit.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: You're on the You're on the edge. You're on the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: verge of tears. The energy is flying around because my
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: dad's in the hospital. I don't know what's going on.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I only know to go to the hospital. I don't
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: know where Roary is. I don't know where my mom is.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: No one's answering the phone. I don't know what I go.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Talk to the dialect right now, go, Luke. I'm no
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like you were doing it before. Luke, I'm I know.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Let's go. You have to say, oh, let's do it again? Okay,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Oh I nailed it back time. Now I have to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: under yes, you do you right? Sit on and feel it,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: but then sit on it. Go Luke, I'm do it
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: again again. That was good. That was good, getting better good.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: That was good. But but don't lose the energy. You're
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: going limp. Now you're getting at where you need to be.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: But don't lose that energy. Remember Stanislavsky said, inspiration quick
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: as flame, god acting as hard. It's not easy, Luke.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I know. Let's go all close at dinner and we
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: can drive twenty on the black ice all the way
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: up to Hartford and you can drive me crazy on
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the way. You can piss and moan the whole way.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Well done, guys. Wow, I felt that that was That
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: was a pretty good performance. I thought, I thought, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: thought that was good. That was good. I think you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: helped a lot. I mean, I'd like to try that
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: bit again and maybe by the end of the ten
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: years we do this podcast. Go ahead, let's do it again.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: We can do full scene. Find a new I'll find
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: something new in the next episode. No, but you got
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you got you know what. Let me tell you something, Amy,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: You've got something there. There's something going on there, there's
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: something interesting. Thank you, thank you. I'll try and I'll
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: try and up my game. But there's some depth, there's
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: some mystery, there's there there are layers there, Amy, Sugarman,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think so what's your blind you deliver girl? Okay,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Mine's mind's fun though, so no problem delivering it. Um.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: This is from Laura Lae when Dean's tapping on the window,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: like trying to see Rory on Christmas or when she
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: was at the Christmas party. Um, and she goes, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: we have a really nice friend door. You might want
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to use it sometime. I just loved it. Mine is
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: from Emily and she's, you know, going back with Jane
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Lynch and talking back with Laura Lae and then she
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: stops her to tracks and she goes, Brianna, date, you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: have an escort st I know, I love that. You know.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: We actually have a listener question about this episode. So um,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and read it. It's from Grace. Grace Um,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: she wrote in and she asked, when was it decided
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: for Luke to change the blue hat after Forgiveness and Stuff,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: which is the title of this episode, or was that
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: something that Amy and Dan had planned all along to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: advance the Laura Lae and Luke storyline. Well, I suggested
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: at a top secret dinner. I refer to it as
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the Hat dinner with Amy and Dan, and I said, listen,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I have blue eyes, and I think I should have
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a blue hat. Good story. That's where it came from.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So that's why Laura ly gives Luke the blue hat.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I give good, I give good dinner. Wow, do you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: reme where the hat dinner was? They ordered lobster in
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and you went to their home or at the set? No, no, no, no,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: we went to a restaurant and oh oh they had
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: lobster at the restaurant you were at. What did you have?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I think if I go to a fancy schmancy place,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I always get the Phili Mignon or a Prime rip
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: or something. So it's hot, dear dinner dinner good. Yeah,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: we're We were in the private room too. It was
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: a big deal. Security outside no season one, dude, no
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: one knew who you were. Okay, give us your favorite line,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: take us out. What was your favorite line from this episode?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, um, my favorite line in the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: entire thing was yeah, when I just said to Rory, yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: when I has been over it was. It's the one
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that made me chuckle. The most. And then because it's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: made me chuckle and the other the other favorite line
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: that's not me um is Michelle. Uh what did he
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: say when he was he was so irritated at the
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: guy who didn't know what a um a wand was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: remember on the Christmas ornament on the Christmas tree when
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: there he said, he goes, No, that's staff because he
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: went to the shepherd. He went, he said, that's not
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: that's not an angel with a wander. That's not a
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: fairy fairy princess or whatever the anyway, I don't even
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: know what the line was, but he said, he said,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: he Michelle kills me. I mean, he just killed. His
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: timing is so good and he just gets so irritated
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: with that guy. And I just laughed out loud. I
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: mean I laughed right away. Or that was my whatever
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the line was, that was my favorite line. It's still
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: like when you called it her parents fate Christmas party.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: That's good stuff. What's next week? What's the next episode?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: The next episode is Paris is burning? Oh gosh, scary.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, before we go, nobody should miss uh. Soon
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put up our tutorial video of how to
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: make the Santa Burger. Be ready for that on the
• 52:00
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• 52:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I get ready for that. It's going to
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: be fun Instagram. Listen, everybody, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to everybody.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Um really, just I hope you have a wonderful holiday
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: in July. And uh anyway, so that's so that's gonna
• 52:27
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