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K-State FB Recruiting is ROLLING, Texas Tech's Sorsby Drama & Casey Alexander's Media Tour (S5//E2) · Cocaine Willie

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  All right, so for tonight, things that we're going to get
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  into we're going to get into football.
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  We're going to get into the Brendan Sorsby situation.
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  We're going to get into the Big 12 basketball scheduling matrix.
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  We're going to get into Casey Alexandria and podcasting tour.
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  Just our thoughts on, you know, the the random hubbub of all the
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  different parties Been on Bosco's boy, he's been on three
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  MA, he's been on KSO. He's done all the all the shows
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  at this point. Found out he's a Cubs fan.
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  So sorry that he's a Cubs fan and you know, we're probably
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  going to talk some shit on that. We're going to do some some of
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  the team drafting, maybe a little bit of that live on the
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  pod tonight too and seeing the 82 and O floating around there
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  quite a bit. And there's a college football
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  version of this that we can go through called NCAA Football
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  perfect team. And there's some hyphens in
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  there, but we can maybe do do a couple rounds of drafting and
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  and put our ball ball knowledge skills to the test.
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  But chef, how have you been, man?
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  It's been a, it's been a little, well, a couple of weeks, but a
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  lot of a lot of news has happened in the last couple of
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  weeks. It's been a true hiatus.
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  We've been on an absolute terror.
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  You know, just K state news circulating in and we're not
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  talking about it. But we had to get on here and
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  speak to the people. We had to speak to the people.
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  We have to to speak to the people indeed, the they
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  announced the scheduling matrix for men's basketball.
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  So we're we're going to have we're going to have all these
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  things. The first thing I want to get
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  into is talking about the recruiting trail State as it
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  stands tonight, June 11th, Thursday 2026.
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  According to the on three industry rankings, K state Curly
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  30th nationally, second in the Big 12 behind the Evil Empire
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  and the class score is averaging an 87.42 right now is coming on
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  the heels of commitment by my second cousin.
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  One moved Cooper Omat out of Great Bend, KS Stoked to see
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  Cooper on the board and he's he's an awesome kid, great
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  athlete. His dad played football at K
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  state as a walk on had to I think medically retire at the
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  time of a was on some some really good teams from like 1999
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  to 2002 or 2003. So knows a lot of those guys got
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  to interact with them. But Cooper very excited for him.
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  Very excited for you if you're listening to this and, and just
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  going down the list, we've got a couple of borderline 4 star
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  guys. Let's see 22 blue chips
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  according to On Three's industry ranking.
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  Jack Claiborne is another guy that's got, he's got four stars
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  according to the On Three industry ranking.
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  But just they've been on a tear. Colin Klein has been on a tear.
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  Chef, how are you feeling about the recruiting momentum that
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  we've had? Who are some of the guys that
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  stand out to you most and maybe who are some of the guys that
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  are flying under the radar for you well?
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  We kind of envisioned this when we brought Colin Klein back, you
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  know, this is when he was the head coach.
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  This is what we envisioned that he would do.
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  Like it would be more emphasized in the recruiting trail, local
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  recruiting, but, you know, dabbling in the territories with
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  lots and lots of talent. And I think he's assembled a
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  staff that is able to do that has, you know, more spry energy
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  to reach these young fellas and get them on board early.
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  And, you know, with lockdown commitments, we and we have seen
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  some decommitments from the the team so far.
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  But you you live in that world where you're swimming with fish,
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  big fish. And sometimes you're going to
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  get gut, but sometimes you're going to get the they're going
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  to get the other side of it too. And I think we're in a place
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  where the local talent depth wise is not all the way there.
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  Kansas is a weaker Kansas class. There's some hubby in guys, but
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  All in all we there was it's not as deep.
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  So we went out into the Texas, Arizona, Georgia, Florida,
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  Oklahoma, even dabbling in in on the Missouri side.
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  So it's spread out, but there's into hubs that, you know, we've
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  seen Kansas State dabble in, throughout the years, in
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  climbing's years and in Bill's years.
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  So I'm, I'm really, really happy.
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  And the class that they have right now, it's and it's not
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  over by any means. It's not over.
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  I think they're they're probably about three or four more guys
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  that I think they're willing to, you know, take shots on and
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  bring in this class and it'd be close to 20, you know, 18.
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  So right now, off the top of my head, you you speak on you spoke
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  on Cooper. Obviously he's the gem of the
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  class so far. Local talent, number one player
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  in the state. But Brayden Harris, I mean
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  that's a four-star legit 4I. I know there's some rankings
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  that are, you know, have them lower end on the four-star, but
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  that is legit 4 star offensive tackle that usually comes with a
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  pretty penny and it takes time to get those guys.
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  And we we battled with, you know, the local, the local
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  school, Missouri, they got kicked out of there.
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  Arkansas. I mean, these are just it.
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  It's not the flashy names, but he had offers from every single
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  school it seemed like. And a six, seven, 290 LB
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  offensive tackle. You don't just throw a stick and
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  find those guys and especially ones that move so fluid as he
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  does where he's in the camps, no pads fighting off defensive ends
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  that know that they're just trying to pass rush.
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  That's very hard to do. And he and he shows up on tape
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  like that. So I'm I'm I'm extremely happy
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  with the offensive line recruiting as a whole.
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  There's four-star Juco's. We we, we took a JUCO and that
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  this early in the process that never happens.
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  Like you, you just don't take Juco's that early and they must
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  have saw something. Obviously the rankings show that
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  he's like some people have him as.
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  Maybe even possibly the number? Uh oh, we lost chef.
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  We lost chef. This is not good.
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  Yeah, Jack Claiborne, currently 68330 offensive tackle.
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  He's currently ranked first nationally, first in his
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  position and 1st in this in his state currently as a as a JUCO
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  player. So I don't know how much stock I
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  would put into the on three rankings when it comes to JUCO
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  players, but it's it's interesting to see that.
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  But yeah, he's he's currently weighing in as the other blue
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  chip recruit currently. But you've got a bunch of guys
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  or at least a few guys here, Braden Harris, Ben Hynack out of
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  North Dakota, that that that could be 4 star guys by the time
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  it's all said and done with their, their, their next high
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  school season here in the fall. Chef, do we have you back?
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  Thank God I don't know where you lost me at, but.
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  We lost you at some service, had Claiborne ranked as a four-star.
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  And then it just. Right.
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  Yeah, it's, it's dreaded here in Columbus, OH.
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  I don't know what's happening, but but yeah, I I was just, you
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  know, I was just glazing the offensive line class and Coach
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  Schmidt, I mean, absolutely a legend so far.
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  I mean, on the recruiting, on the recruiting part of it.
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  I don't know necessarily when they get on the field with
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  working with what he has now, what he's going to show, but
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  right now he's busting his ass recruiting.
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  And I was I was just going to go through the class and I feel
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  like there's some position groups that have kind of been
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  locked down. Like I feel like we're solid.
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  You know, we took our quarterback that I think we've
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  talked since, I think we've talked since then.
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  But you know offensive line maybe they take one more running
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  back, got a running back commit. I don't think we take more than
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  1D tackle. I think we're locked in AD
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  tackle. I think we take maybe one more
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  edge, maybe a couple more receivers and then I don't know
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  what else we're looking for after that.
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  Yeah, I was going to say we've got a tight end and a wide
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  receiver, but, but that's one, one of each so far.
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  So, I mean, you don't necessarily want to have more
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  than one tight end on in the class because we've already,
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  we've already kind of, we tend a case date, at least the last few
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  years, we've tended to have more tight ends and we probably know
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  what to do with as far as that goes.
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  So I would say we probably don't need more than one in this class
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  specifically. But wide receiver, totally with
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  you. You want to be able to develop
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  those guys, right? You want to be able to have
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  multiple wide receivers that you can work through.
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  And you need to have the the guys that are studs on day one,
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  but you also need to have like Jace Brown, who really developed
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  through the system over the years.
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  So yeah, I, I would like to see more than just one receiver in
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  the class. I'm right with you there.
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  And I mean, the number one guy that they have that they're
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  chasing right now, he's got a familiar name and it's a Locket,
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  another Locket. And I don't, I don't know how we
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  feel about that because, you know, maybe in some years, I
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  don't know if we even take him. You know, I, I don't know after.
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  And I think it's been kind of tainted by the Sterling
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  experiment. And I that's no shade at
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  Sterling because Sterling, he's been serviceable in his role.
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  And I think he had lower expectations than obviously
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  Tyler did. But you know, it's if Sterling
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  didn't have the career that he had.
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  I don't know if we are that hard on is this, is this Jacob?
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  I don't know if this is Jacob. Locke that were.
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  Yeah, there's twins. There's twins.
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  I'm not, I'm not entirely sure. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure
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  which one it is. I'd have to look, But I know
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  it's a Locket boy. And I think if we, if Sterling
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  didn't have the career that he had, I don't think we would
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  nearly be as hard on this recruitment as we are.
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  You know, just looking at it. We don't want to be burned
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  again, especially with roster limitations, you know, nepotism,
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  all that stuff. He might be very well, he might
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  be closer to Tyler than he is. You know, his brother Sterling,
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  who we don't know that necessarily right off RIP.
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  But it's I think it's worth a shot.
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  For sure, For sure, yeah, Jacob. Jacob and Jordan Lockett are the
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  two brothers Jacob's got. I mean, he's got some decent
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  offers here, but mean looking at the looking at his just
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  scrolling through his Twitter here, he's got offers from like
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  Old Dominion, South Dakota state.
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  I think I see Pitt state on here.
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  So I, I would like to maybe start to see more power for
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  offers from him if he truly is a take for us.
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  But I mean, he from everything I've heard and everything that
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  everybody said, it sounds like he's the kind of guy that could
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  have the higher the 2 Jordan is the one that maybe doesn't have
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  the higher ceiling. And again, he's he's maybe
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  fishing in the FCS water. I think he's a baseball player.
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  Yeah, yeah. It's going to be interesting
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  though. I'm, I'm excited.
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  I'm excited. I feel like this is a good spot
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  to be in. Obviously your ranking gets
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  higher the earlier you have more players typically is what we
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  see. And we've got a lot of recruits
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  locked down for mid June, not even mid June at this point.
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  So it's it's wild to see that I don't.
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  I can't remember the last time we had 18 commits by June 11th,
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  if if ever. I'm not, I'm not remembering any
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  of the Staffs in my lifetime, you know, go hitting the trail
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  this hard, identifying. And it's very similar to what we
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  saw with the basketball transfer portal where they identify the
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  guys that they want. They they kind of make a plan.
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  They put their heads down and they go out and try to get these
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  guys locked in. So when they get to the season,
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  it's not so much visits during the season and then trying to
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  play catch up after, you know, when it's in December and
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  they're trying to lock down a class.
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  It's kind of they've already done get through July and now
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  it's now it's just finishing the pieces and you kind of have your
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  class assembled. Now you really have a good
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  identity. You you have a really good
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  identity to the class and you can kind of see where the holes
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  are and what you need to fill in the portal, whether you need to
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  even go young in the portal, like get some freshmen that are,
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  you know, that are bouncing back or, you know, go after some old
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  guys and you know, senior light and transfer portal hall.
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  It it's the plan is there. I can see it and I love it.
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  And I mean the, the, and it's not even that they're, you know,
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  taking guys that are not wanted. It's power four wins.
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  That's really what's impressing me is that they're, they're
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  winning versus other power four teams and they're getting the
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  guys that they want, not not taking the second fiddle or
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  anything like that. They're they're literally
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  getting the guys that they want and they're filling their class
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  up super fast. And I love it.
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  You know, there's there's guys in this class that are just, you
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  know, unheralded as well. But there's, I mean, there's
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  some dogs. This Logan Goggins guy.
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  I mean, if he's anything like David Goggins, I mean, who's
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  going to carry the boats? I mean, give me some of that.
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  Yeah. There's, there's a ton of kids.
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  Colton McComb. I mean, he was earlier in April
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  and he's he's a guy teetering on four stars and you know, he's
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  one of those very, very fast, agile linebackers that can get
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  after it and go Oklahoma offer Oklahoma State offer.
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  Those are the kind of guys that I'm in love with this class.
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  I am in love with this class and I, and I thought how they
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  finished off the class last year after once Kleiman retired.
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  I, you know, I, I love this class and I love how they're
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  recruiting and I thought they would be recruiting St.
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  Louis harder. Maybe.
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  I thought I, I thought like we would be getting like four or
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  five guys out of Saint Louis. I mean, it's not over, but I
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  mean, I think they're and they're also planting seeds,
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  which is also the crazy part because next year's recruiting
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  class, I think there's even guys that are teetering on.
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  Five stars. That are that we might be in the
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  lead for which is crazy. I mean, knock on wood, but that
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  would be nuts. Yeah, yeah, I I've been, I'm
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  overjoyed, honestly, with how Klein and this staff has been
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  recruiting. You mentioned Schmidt mean you,
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  you look at some of the wins here for for Schmidt, you go
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  down and and you see a guy, gosh, I was just looking at him.
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  Kevin, Kevin Awo. That was a recruiting win
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  against Utah and Houston. Georgia Tech was in the mix
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  there as well. Gosh, I just this, this class is
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  very, very exciting. Kanan Smith, this is a guy that
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  committed pretty early on, but that was offers from Iowa State,
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  Kentucky and Baylor in the mix. So to your point, and Braden
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  Harris was another guy with Missouri was in the mix with
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  Cooper. You have Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
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  in the mix as well as Penn State.
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  Like you're getting legitimate big wins, not just against Big
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  12 and ACC kind of peer institutions within the Power 4.
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  You're getting some wins against guys that were definite takes
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  for Big 10 and SEC programs as well.
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  Says a lot to me about this this this.
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  This coaching staff's recruiting prowess and just the ability of
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  they're able to have the charisma and get these guys in.
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  The one thing that I also think is maybe flying under the radar
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  here is the fact that this is the first year we haven't had a
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  spring portal in a long time. And I think this staff's ability
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  to dedicate 100% of their efforts after spring ball to not
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  roster retention, but focus 100% entirely on the high school
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  class and putting those guys together as well as even juniors
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  like you're mentioning for 2028, of course, maybe for 2029,
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  getting guys into camps and things like that.
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  I think that that's going a long way here.
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  I think in, in them being able to walk in guys, foster those
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  relationships, make sure that they're, you know, sending,
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  sending Taylor Brad to all those high schools, making sure that
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  he's getting out in front of kids too.
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  Like I, I think that's maybe not being talked about enough.
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  I think it's huge that the, the coaching staff isn't having to
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  worry about going out and recruiting and retaining guys
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  from their own roster and having to go out and try to get power
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  for talent OR try to scout talent at the lower levels, try
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  to bring them in to get them ready for summer conditioning
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  and fall camp. Like that's I, I can't imagine
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  how much work you would have to do to, to put into that to try
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  to keep guys around and have to go out and get them.
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  But I bet that's that's also got to be huge for for the staff.
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  Yeah, that's, I mean, that's such an excellent point.
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  I mean, you don't ever really think about that, but it's kind
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  of reminiscent of like before the portal was a thing.
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  Like guys could actually dedicate their lives to hitting
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  the road and getting these high schools and seeing guys first
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  person in the, you know, in the spring right before it like the
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  next season starts up for high school football.
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  So it's really, really, I'm glad you brought up that this is
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  lost. You lost him.
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  Again, oh, oh, oh. Back it's it's.
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  I don't. I'm just going to have some
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  ethic. Work ethic, Yes, Work ethic,
• 23:24
  that is a word. Just doing it out on the land
• 23:26
  instead of on the football field, which matters a lot to me
• 23:29
  as a 6th generation Kansan myself.
• 23:31
  Fun fact, Cooper, 7th generation Kansan.
• 23:35
  Yeah, so good for him. Paul, friend of the program,
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  started Heartland Beef Connection to help support
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  Midwest ranchers by matching them directly with families
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• 24:37
  Last beef dish I cooked, I cooked some ground beef tacos.
• 24:42
  Obviously that is, you know, a staple in every American
• 24:46
  household. Just, you know, cheap American
• 24:49
  tacos, cheese seasoning and all that.
• 24:53
  But you know what I've been dreaming about?
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  I've been dreaming about a nice juicy hanger steak.
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  They call it the butcher steak. And I guarantee you, if you go
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  to Heartland Beef Connection, they have that on your half cow,
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  your half beef, they will have that.
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  It's right there in between the flank and the, I don't even know
• 25:14
  what other part. It's like the plate or whatever.
• 25:18
  It's some part of the beef. It's right there.
• 25:20
  The butcher usually keeps it for themselves.
• 25:23
  It's so tender, it's so juicy. You don't want to ask where it
• 25:27
  comes from right off of the cow 'cause it's right next to the
• 25:31
  wean, but it's OK. Well, I didn't know that, but
• 25:37
  now we know. So you learned a little bit of
• 25:39
  agriculture here if you're listening to the pot.
• 25:43
  All right, so the next topic that I had outside of
• 25:46
  recruiting, I want to, I want to talk about just while we're on
• 25:50
  the subject of football, the Brennan Sarsbee situation and
• 25:54
  and all of the shit that's hit the fan this week with the
• 25:58
  temporary injunction that was granted to him by a Texas court
• 26:02
  on Monday, if I remember right, is when that happened.
• 26:05
  And crazy. For those for those who haven't
• 26:08
  been following I If you haven't been following this, you're
• 26:10
  living under a rock. I I don't know how you could
• 26:12
  possibly not know about this situation.
• 26:15
  And I'm happy for you, yeah. Yeah, but Brendan Sorsby, former
• 26:21
  Indiana, former Cincinnati quarterback, got recruited the
• 26:25
  number one recruit in the portal I think at the time to Texas
• 26:29
  Tech. I I would maybe take that with a
• 26:32
  grain of salt. I think Sam Levitz of much
• 26:34
  better quarterback than Brendan Sorsby is personally.
• 26:37
  It's not an attack on Soresby. I just think he's a better
• 26:39
  quarterback and I think he showed that on the field.
• 26:42
  But he bet on 40 of his own football games during the time
• 26:49
  that he was at Indiana. And maybe it's Cincinnati too.
• 26:52
  I think maybe just the Indiana though and $90,000 worth of
• 26:57
  bets. So it comes out that he has this
• 26:59
  gambling addiction. He goes to rehab at a bachelor
• 27:02
  pad in Arizona for 30 days or something.
• 27:06
  So he gets to play Fortnite at some bachelor pad and, and if
• 27:09
  you haven't seen the bachelor pad, look it up.
• 27:12
  It looks like a frat house. So I don't know how that could
• 27:16
  possibly help you with a recovery from an addiction.
• 27:20
  But this guy gets out and then everybody's like, well, he's
• 27:25
  very obviously going to get banned from because any time
• 27:28
  this has ever happened to pretty much anybody in history, go back
• 27:32
  to Pete Rose, Jonte Porter and some of the guys that this has
• 27:36
  happened to where they were literally, you know, betting on
• 27:39
  their own games and over unders and player props and things like
• 27:42
  that. Banned for life from the sport,
• 27:45
  from the game, from the league and sores BNC AA rules that
• 27:52
  sores B is ineligible for his final season of college
• 27:56
  football, which is what this and this judge in Texas, Lubbock
• 28:03
  Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit or something like that.
• 28:06
  The the guy recuses himself because he's a Texas Tech alum.
• 28:09
  So a guy from who's a Houston alum comes in and rules on this
• 28:13
  temporary injunction and says Brennan Sorsby will be suspended
• 28:18
  for two games, will be the punishment that he received.
• 28:21
  So he's going to miss out on playing Oregon State and my
• 28:24
  wife's alma mater of Abilene Christian University, which
• 28:28
  couple years ago they actually got in a dogfight with Texas
• 28:30
  Tech 5251 and barely a victory there.
• 28:33
  Texas Tech dead. But anyway, temporary injunction
• 28:37
  is granted. So Soresby has ruled that he's
• 28:40
  eligible according to this court, despite what the NCAA has
• 28:43
  said, despite what the Big 12 has said, despite what everybody
• 28:47
  with a brain has said and doesn't have a fucking cactus
• 28:49
  emoji next to their Twitter handle.
• 28:52
  Shout out to Scott. I lifted that from him.
• 28:55
  Scott at Bosco's voice. But I have to say it because I
• 28:58
  wanted to say it, but it's just, it's, it's heinous to me that
• 29:03
  he's being allowed to play. It's I understand that if he's
• 29:09
  has an addiction problem and he's recovering from that, we
• 29:12
  need to put the the person first.
• 29:14
  I'm 100% on board with that. But in on what planet does it
• 29:18
  make sense for us to allow a guy who is addicting to gambling on
• 29:23
  football while playing football to let him play, to do half of
• 29:27
  the equation there? What in what world does it make
• 29:30
  sense for us to let him do half of that?
• 29:33
  I just don't understand how it's going to help with his recovery
• 29:36
  process. And I'm not an addiction
• 29:38
  counselor. I'm not a sports gambling addict
• 29:42
  myself, not really an addict of anything myself.
• 29:45
  So I don't really understand the approach here, but he sure
• 29:50
  certainly should not be eligible just based on Preston alone.
• 29:54
  We saw this with Hunter Decker's, Hunter Decker's at
• 29:56
  Iowa State two years ago. I think Rocco Beck's freshman
• 30:00
  year was banned, kicked off the team, banned from playing for
• 30:05
  betting on other teams, not even his own team, but other teams
• 30:11
  that played other sports in Iowa State.
• 30:13
  So yeah, sure, there's a maybe some insider information there,
• 30:16
  but the degree of, of difference between that and this and the
• 30:21
  the punishment for one versus the other is absolutely
• 30:26
  ridiculous. So Cody Campbell's kind of going
• 30:29
  back and forth and saying, you know, one thing out of his mouth
• 30:32
  that he wants this, this act to get past Chris.
• 30:35
  But he's also at the same time Ted Cruz, who's pushing this
• 30:39
  bill, is saying that that this wouldn't be allowed to happen
• 30:43
  under the bill. So, but Cody Campbell's paying
• 30:46
  legal fees. There's all sorts of crazy going
• 30:48
  on with this. And I hopefully that's a good
• 30:50
  high level overview of what's happening here for everybody
• 30:53
  who's listening or watching this.
• 30:54
  But again, we're not getting super in the weeds, but I want
• 30:57
  chef's thoughts, candid feedback, reactions on the
• 31:01
  situation, and we'll let the conversation evolve from there.
• 31:05
  It's, it's really just sad. And you described it perfectly.
• 31:09
  I mean, there's countless, countless accounts of just
• 31:15
  examples of how this should have played out.
• 31:20
  It's clearly somebody is working behind the scenes to make this
• 31:25
  happen because we've defanged and declawed the NCA to the
• 31:31
  point where I mean, are we even under the NCA?
• 31:34
  Are we just are the are called football players, literally just
• 31:38
  citizens that were just playing and the courts rule everything.
• 31:41
  What what what world is is it that you can have somebody bet
• 31:45
  on football games and have them play football?
• 31:48
  Is mind the, you know, not to poo poo on the addiction part of
• 31:54
  it, but like you said, I mean, just because you have an
• 31:57
  addiction does not mean that you are you're just you're not.
• 32:07
  There's no consequences for you there.
• 32:09
  There's literally no consequences to this where even
• 32:14
  if he was, even if he went through the rehab process,
• 32:17
  you're allowing him back into the sport that he is addicted
• 32:19
  to. It's like somebody addicted to
• 32:21
  meth. They steal something and we
• 32:24
  clearly see that the meth is driving you to stealing stuff.
• 32:28
  Let's just put him in, let's get him clean, but just put him in
• 32:33
  a, a room full of valuable stuff.
• 32:35
  It just doesn't make any sense. I, I just, I'm lost.
• 32:40
  I'm lost because I don't know where, where this leads to.
• 32:43
  Like do we just find judges on the lowest circuit of anywhere?
• 32:49
  Anybody that's just passed the bar to, you know, go down and
• 32:53
  just make any ruling that we want and there's no rules.
• 32:56
  I just don't get it. I literally don't get it.
• 33:01
  And the Hunter Decker things, I mean, did he end up playing
• 33:08
  football again, right? Am I tripping?
• 33:11
  Did he didn't he end up playing like at a lower level?
• 33:13
  I don't know. I thought he did.
• 33:16
  I thought he played at like even an eye or something but.
• 33:20
  He's a, he's a quarterback. I.
• 33:22
  Don't know but. Hitler is apparently in the UFL.
• 33:26
  Yeah, he did. He did.
• 33:29
  He did play at Iowa Western, but.
• 33:31
  But again, yeah, the the punishment he was, he was kicked
• 33:35
  off of the Iowa statement. I think he unenrolled from Iowa
• 33:38
  State as a result of that. So OK, you go play the JUCO.
• 33:43
  That's great. Which apparently isn't even,
• 33:47
  you're not, you know, it doesn't take any of your eligibility
• 33:50
  away. So it's really like you're just
• 33:51
  not even playing football because, you know, the, the
• 33:54
  Pavia situation, they're getting extra years of football because
• 33:59
  they played at JUCO, which doesn't count towards your
• 34:01
  eligibility. It's a whole different thing
• 34:03
  that we've lost the plot on college football in general.
• 34:07
  We've we've completely lost it. There are teams playing by the
• 34:11
  rules. There are teams not playing by
• 34:13
  the rules. There's players playing by the
• 34:14
  rules. There's players not playing by
• 34:16
  the rules. We're paying players
• 34:17
  astronomical amount of money. We're asking Ted Cruz of all
• 34:21
  people to try to save the sport and put some guardrails on this
• 34:28
  thing. It just we're in bizarro world.
• 34:31
  It doesn't make any sense. Sores be as a player.
• 34:36
  I'd, you know, and you know, that was Cody Campbell's
• 34:41
  argument that he had on some I can't remember that Dan Dokic, I
• 34:45
  think was the the podcast he was on, which is the fall off of Dan
• 34:49
  Dokic is absolutely insane. But he was on that podcast, you
• 34:56
  know, saying if it was a guy at LSU that nobody would even care
• 35:00
  about this. Yeah, we would.
• 35:02
  Everybody would care about this. What are you talking about?
• 35:06
  And, like, it was counter intuitive to his argument.
• 35:09
  Like, oh, they don't want Texas Tech playing with the big boys.
• 35:13
  Yeah. Like Lane Kiffin more than they
• 35:15
  dislike Joey McGuire. Make him a snake go, they're
• 35:19
  going to do it. It just doesn't make any sense
• 35:22
  because if if nobody cared about LSI mean if nobody cared about
• 35:26
  Texas Tech enough where they didn't want him playing with the
• 35:29
  big boys, like why would they care?
• 35:31
  But then they would definitely care if it was LSU.
• 35:34
  It just doesn't make any sense. And then Joey, Joey McGuire,
• 35:37
  he's talking hot Mike. I mean, listen, before this
• 35:42
  ruling, Texas Tech was the darling of the country.
• 35:46
  Like they everybody was like on Texas Tech's side, like, yeah,
• 35:49
  stick at the Texas and all this stuff.
• 35:51
  They're talking shit about you. And you, you responded back,
• 35:54
  let's play them all this stuff. And now Joey McGuire saying
• 35:58
  like, oh, we let murderers in and wife abusers and domestic
• 36:02
  violence people play football. Why shouldn't we get letting him
• 36:07
  have a chance? Brother, what are you talking
• 36:11
  about? Like get out of here.
• 36:12
  Like it's it's crazy. Like don't, don't straw man my
• 36:16
  argument, brother. No one's saying anything about
• 36:18
  domestic violence. Like, come on, it's a classic.
• 36:21
  It's a classic case of what about ISM?
• 36:23
  Like you can Google what about ISM if you've never heard of it,
• 36:25
  but it's basically the idea of like what you just stated, of
• 36:29
  like trying to make your situation sound less bad by
• 36:33
  saying, well, what about murderers and what about
• 36:36
  rapists? Like OK, this is not relevant.
• 36:41
  Get them all, first of all, get them all out.
• 36:43
  Who cares? But you can't bet on the sport
• 36:46
  and then expect to just come back in like you didn't do
• 36:49
  anything. You're not resolve of all
• 36:52
  consequences because you went to rehab, brother.
• 36:55
  It just doesn't make any sense. And then for a judge to just be
• 36:58
  able to say, hey, he can play the NCA don't follow their
• 37:03
  rules. Who cares why?
• 37:05
  If that's the case, let's all go to court.
• 37:07
  Why are we have 105 man roster, put 137 on them and then say a
• 37:14
  judge from Kansas is saying yeah, yeah, it's
• 37:17
  unconstitutional and not let them play football.
• 37:20
  Come on, get. Out of here, you're absolutely
• 37:26
  right. I mean, this opens up just a
• 37:27
  Pandora's box as if it wasn't already open, right, With the
• 37:30
  Diego Pavia stuff and this and that, but it just opens up.
• 37:34
  So I hadn't even thought about the implication that you could
• 37:37
  just try to potentially get a judge in Kansas to allow you to
• 37:41
  do this, that, or the other just because they're AK State alum.
• 37:45
  Granted, we don't have a law school, but I don't know.
• 37:47
  It's just it's, it's, it's our world.
• 37:50
  Like you said. I just don't.
• 37:53
  I hate it. I hate it.
• 37:54
  It sucks. It pisses me off.
• 37:56
  If you've got a cactus emoji, if you're a Texas Tech fan and
• 37:59
  you're listening to this, please provide me with a rational
• 38:03
  argument as to why, other than, oh, sharing a video of Nick
• 38:09
  Saban saying, oh, we should give people second chances and oh,
• 38:12
  he's dealing with an addiction and boohoo, we need to, we need
• 38:16
  to care about sores. Be the the person, not not the
• 38:20
  attic. I'm like, dude, you people are
• 38:22
  so just you admit what happened here.
• 38:26
  What happened here was you, you spent 5 whatever $1,000,000 on
• 38:33
  your quarterback this season. So you blew a lot of nil money,
• 38:37
  ref share money on this guy. You're not going to get a return
• 38:40
  on investment out of them because he's, if he's ruled
• 38:43
  ineligible, that's just money down the drain unless they
• 38:45
  clawed back from him somehow because there's something into
• 38:49
  his contract or if he doesn't play a game, he doesn't get the
• 38:52
  money. But you, you spent this money on
• 38:55
  this guy. You want him to be able to play.
• 38:58
  And because the judge said that he can play, you're very excited
• 39:01
  about it. Just tell us what?
• 39:03
  Just say it. Say that's what it is.
• 39:05
  That's why you're you're excited.
• 39:08
  You're not doing this because you actually care about this
• 39:11
  person. Let's be realistic here.
• 39:14
  Like I'm sick of all these people on Twitter saying they
• 39:16
  actually care about his recovery and the person.
• 39:19
  No, you want to win games on the football field that care about,
• 39:23
  just be real about it. State that upfront like I'm sick
• 39:27
  of this like run around that they're giving everybody all
• 39:31
  these fucking tech fans. So it's it's kind of driving me
• 39:34
  crazy and I'm I'm very much over it, but those are my final
• 39:38
  thoughts on it. If you've got any final
• 39:40
  thoughts, the the mic is yours. Yeah, I mean, it's just funny.
• 39:44
  I mean, they you can pander to like your whims, but like the
• 39:49
  reality is like the video that you you were talking about with
• 39:54
  the Nick Saban, that's Mussin Muhammad.
• 39:56
  Like they were talking about Mussin Muhammad and he did
• 39:59
  something crazy and they wanted him kicked off the team, but he
• 40:05
  gave him a second chance. It's not the NCAA kicked them
• 40:09
  off the team. That was that was that was
• 40:13
  either Nick, Nick Saban's decision to kick him off a
• 40:16
  Michigan State's team. If he didn't, he didn't.
• 40:19
  If he did, he did. The NCAA ruled that he is
• 40:22
  ineligible because he he bet money on football games that
• 40:26
  he's involved in. Which is that is just one of not
• 40:30
  to do that. It's like true marriage.
• 40:35
  It's like rule #1 don't do that. They had there's like a hard
• 40:41
  line. They make 30 for 30s about this
• 40:43
  stuff, like people betting on games, referees betting on
• 40:47
  games. Like if a referee bet on a game
• 40:50
  and like the NCA found out about it, do you want him ref in games
• 40:54
  still Probably not. But but, but what if they went
• 40:58
  to a court and a judge says, oh, he's got to be able to ref
• 41:00
  games? Well, because he's an addict and
• 41:03
  he's he's in the recovery process.
• 41:05
  We need to let that. Man and that appreciate games
• 41:09
  and this is where I get to because if it was an official
• 41:12
  they're employed by the CA okay, these college athletes aren't
• 41:19
  employed by the so I that's where I'm getting at like maybe
• 41:24
  maybe these bills are necessary. Maybe this stuff it, but I just
• 41:28
  don't like the judicial system because if it if a player in the
• 41:32
  NFL was doing the same thing that Brennan Sorsby did, a
• 41:37
  backup quarterback for the New York Jets, the league would kick
• 41:40
  him out and he would never be able to play in the NFL again.
• 41:44
  And a judge could not tell them not to.
• 41:46
  And it's because we're not collectively bargained.
• 41:48
  I don't know what the steps is, why the judicial system has such
• 41:53
  a reign of power over collegiate sports, but I don't like it.
• 41:59
  I don't like it. And I was always a proponent of
• 42:01
  I don't like the NCAAI, don't like this.
• 42:04
  I don't like how they ran things, but my God, I wish we
• 42:08
  could go back to that. I wish we could go back to the
• 42:12
  players not being able to, you know, the players getting
• 42:15
  suspended because they sold some jewelry to a booster or
• 42:18
  something. Like, give me back to those
• 42:20
  days. They made more sense than they
• 42:22
  do right now. It just does it.
• 42:24
  It irks me, but I'm done with this conversation.
• 42:26
  You're done with this conversation.
• 42:28
  Let's get to happier times. Yeah, happier times, meaning
• 42:31
  we've got the scheduling matrix and, well, I don't know how much
• 42:35
  happier is the scheduling matrix.
• 42:38
  Then, then, then unhappy stuff. Let me, I'm going to pull up my
• 42:41
  screen here and share the matrix itself.
• 42:45
  So Big 12. Win some of these games.
• 42:47
  Let's go. That is fair.
• 42:49
  That is fair. So Big 12 men's basketball now.
• 42:52
  Sorry, I gotta get rid of that. So that's a work thing.
• 42:56
  OK, They they announced the schedule and it's not the
• 43:00
  schedule, but the matrix. So K State's home and away team.
• 43:04
  So the only teams that we play home and away, we've got Arizona
• 43:08
  State, Cincinnati and KU. The home only's are Arizona.
• 43:14
  Two of those are winnable. Yeah, Arizona, Colorado,
• 43:21
  Houston, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech are home only and
• 43:26
  then away only. Baylor, BYUUCF, Iowa State of
• 43:30
  Utah and West Virginia. Oh, look who decided to join us.
• 43:36
  Matthew Dellavedova, how much you dare?
• 43:40
  Saint Mary's legend. What up, baby?
• 43:45
  What's up? I I wanted to pop in.
• 43:49
  I wanted to pop in just real quick because I know there's
• 43:52
  going to be some slander later on revolving around me and not
• 43:57
  being able to join today. But just want to say one thing.
• 44:02
  First off, it's great to see everybody.
• 44:04
  It's great to be back #2 fuck Texas Tech.
• 44:14
  I know I was there, I was there, but 33.
• 44:19
  Just wanted to say excited for our upcoming season and working
• 44:24
  with you all. I was going to just mention one
• 44:28
  little little tidbit about the opponent matrix.
• 44:31
  And something that's very frustrating is the fact that,
• 44:34
  again, we are not going to have Iowa State at home this year.
• 44:38
  Terrible, a terrible decision by the Big 12.
• 44:41
  When we get stuck with Arizona State and Cincinnati, like what
• 44:47
  are we doing here? Nobody wants to play those teams
• 44:50
  twice. Talk, somebody talk.
• 44:55
  I'd, I'm, I'm in agreeance with you, I, you know, I have a long
• 44:59
  standing feud with Cincinnati and everything about Cincinnati.
• 45:02
  I hate them and I it's closer to home.
• 45:08
  But All in all, it's just bad the home in a ways.
• 45:11
  Kansas obviously, but they're winnable.
• 45:13
  That's the thing. They are very winnable and it's
• 45:17
  going to be fun to see. You know, the guy that we wanted
• 45:22
  as our head coach, We get two shots at him.
• 45:26
  I remember an episode not too long ago when we did a, we did
• 45:30
  a, an episode about Casey Alexander coming in and we were
• 45:34
  going to have a chance to put a foot up.
• 45:36
  I don't even remember his name. What is his name?
• 45:39
  Derrick Calhoun. Derrick Calhoun, The.
• 45:41
  Five star commit from high school or something recently.
• 45:45
  You think he's hitting the recruiting trail pretty hard,
• 45:47
  pretty well, so I'm not like this.
• 45:51
  Well, I'm, I'm excited to get an opportunity to put, you know,
• 45:55
  foot the ass on the basketball court.
• 45:57
  But like you were saying, not being able to, not seeing BYU at
• 46:02
  home, not seeing Iowa State at home, and obviously Jerome Tang
• 46:07
  not being able to come back to Manhattan is also, you know,
• 46:12
  it's a crime in itself. Because I mean, we might have a
• 46:15
  chance, an opportunity to play them in our tournament at the
• 46:19
  beginning of the season. But if we don't see him, we're
• 46:22
  not going to be able to have Jerome Tang come back to
• 46:25
  Manhattan. And no.
• 46:26
  Heckling. No.
• 46:28
  Heckling, no. Whatever.
• 46:29
  Who knows, maybe, maybe we give him his flowers.
• 46:31
  I have no idea. But yeah, it the scheduling
• 46:36
  matrix, it it, it sets up for chances to win.
• 46:41
  I do like that. Chances to win?
• 46:44
  We do get some good teams. You know what, if you want to
• 46:46
  get the good teams, it'd be good to get them at home.
• 46:49
  Honestly. Arizona.
• 46:50
  Houston. But I also see, I also see TCU,
• 46:56
  Oklahoma State and Colorado on there.
• 46:59
  That's three home wins right there.
• 47:01
  I see three home wins. Well, we said that last year
• 47:05
  though too, so. Yeah, we were.
• 47:07
  Yeah. But we have Casey Alexander this
• 47:10
  time though, so. I know, I know.
• 47:12
  We'll see. OK, well I just wanted to pop
• 47:16
  in. Real quick, go outside the
• 47:18
  restaurant to just RIP a dart real quick and.
• 47:20
  Then no, no, no, no, no. There's no dart.
• 47:22
  There's no dart ripping here. What are we talking about?
• 47:26
  I just got us 3 new subscribers, so you need to calm down.
• 47:30
  I'm actually, I'm in Iowa right now.
• 47:33
  I'm in Iowa in a, in a small town in Iowa.
• 47:39
  Half Iowa fans, half Iowa State. Dox yourself but well, I'm not
• 47:45
  doxing myself. I'm like doxing.
• 47:47
  Go cats. So so.
• 47:49
  Go cats, baby. Enjoy, enjoy the rest of the
• 47:52
  show. I had to pop on.
• 47:55
  You can talk slander. You can talk slander about me.
• 47:57
  It's fine. Man, my Internet has never been
• 47:59
  smoother once Matt got on. I know, I know, I can actually
• 48:04
  see like chef's like skin routine.
• 48:07
  That's how clear this Internet is.
• 48:10
  I What did you do? It's a lot of grease.
• 48:14
  I've been getting fat over the summer, so Oh no, it's OK, it's
• 48:20
  all right. It's all right, but all right,
• 48:23
  I'll leave. See you.
• 48:30
  Just give a nice call before he leaves.
• 48:34
  He's still. He's also still there.
• 48:36
  OK, we're moving. From the stage all right, so I I
• 48:41
  hate the scheduling matrix. I think it's awful.
• 48:43
  I think it's awful just from a there there's no protection of
• 48:47
  rivalries. There's no OK, it's, it's been a
• 48:50
  it's been a complaint I've had with the Big 12 since we
• 48:53
  expanded under your mark is they are letting think they're
• 48:59
  letting rivalries go. But the thing I don't understand
• 49:01
  about this is if we're going to try at some point to package
• 49:05
  basketball as a separate product, ultimately what you
• 49:08
  need for that is enough eyeballs to drive your products price
• 49:13
  value up to drive up more demand for the supply that you're
• 49:17
  putting out there. And when I look at this schedule
• 49:19
  and I look at the protective, like look at the rivals they're
• 49:22
  putting on here for home and away, like, OK, Arizona has one
• 49:26
  rival on there. I guess you could maybe throw
• 49:29
  BYU in in the mixer. I know they played a lot
• 49:31
  historically, but that's not a rivalry per SE.
• 49:36
  Arizona State, their only rival on here is Arizona.
• 49:40
  I mean, you're not throwing any of the old PAC 12 schools and
• 49:42
  you're not throwing in Utah or Colorado for K State.
• 49:47
  When you look at that one, again, only one old Big 8 school
• 49:51
  is on your home and away. You've got five teams, 4, four
• 49:55
  teams, Colorado, K State, KU, Iowa State, Oklahoma State.
• 49:59
  You've got five teams, Big Eight that are in this conference as
• 50:03
  it's currently composed. You should have at least I think
• 50:07
  your three-game should be against if you're going to do 3
• 50:10
  games for everyone, your three-game should be against old
• 50:12
  Big 8 opponents. I don't care if it's Oklahoma
• 50:15
  State or Colorado, but I would like to have one or the other
• 50:18
  because it would be really nice for me to be able to go to an
• 50:21
  away game every year older. But again, there's just there's
• 50:25
  no respect for the history of the conference or even the
• 50:30
  history of the member schools. And that's what pisses me off
• 50:33
  about this is your mark in the conference, clearly do not care.
• 50:37
  But again, like, if you're going to try to go eyeballs.
• 50:40
  So let's throw the history thing out of the out of the window
• 50:42
  here. If you want eyeballs, why isn't
• 50:44
  KU playing Arizona as one of the home and away?
• 50:47
  Why isn't KU playing BYU and one of the home and away?
• 50:51
  If we're not going to care about this, if we just want like the
• 50:53
  matchups that are going to get eyeballs, why aren't we going
• 50:56
  that route here? That's the thing that doesn't
• 50:58
  make sense to me, is it? It just feels like there's no
• 51:01
  logic behind the choices. I'll say this, I mean, I get
• 51:06
  what I get your gripe, and I love the historical aspect of
• 51:09
  this. But to grow your conference, you
• 51:13
  know, All in all, we can't have this division of the old versus
• 51:19
  the new and, you know, keeping them separated.
• 51:21
  You kind of have to grow the conference together and unify
• 51:25
  them. Because if your eyeball thing
• 51:28
  makes sense, you want Arizona playing KU.
• 51:31
  Those are the best teams right now.
• 51:33
  I don't know how long they want to, but you know, obviously
• 51:36
  they're doing this year by year, but you don't want first of all,
• 51:40
  you don't want your your best teams necessarily taking a bunch
• 51:44
  of L's because if you got Arizona playing KU, maybe
• 51:48
  Arizona sweeps them. That's two losses for KU.
• 51:51
  You don't necessarily want that. But I can see where your, your
• 51:56
  argument comes from, but as a, a building of brands for this, for
• 52:01
  this basketball conference, you kind of want everybody to get a
• 52:05
  little piece of everybody. Because if it was, if it was the
• 52:08
  way you want it, Arizona would play nobody.
• 52:12
  They just would. Utah would play nobody.
• 52:15
  Get them out of there. And it's it's unfortunate
• 52:19
  because like you said, the old Big 8, it would make sense to
• 52:23
  get them in there and the rivalries would be great and
• 52:25
  they would keep them building over year over year.
• 52:28
  I hate seeing that we don't get to play Iowa State year over
• 52:31
  year, but Oklahoma State's got to play somebody.
• 52:34
  West Virginia's got to play somebody.
• 52:36
  And, and it's it's unfortunate, but I can see it is balanced.
• 52:41
  It is balanced. That's what I will say.
• 52:43
  It is balanced. And I think this gives a lot of
• 52:45
  teams opportunities to get to this NCAA tournament because
• 52:49
  these home and away matchups are really what's going to drive it
• 52:54
  because you want to win a lot of your home games.
• 52:58
  You're OK with splitting your you're, you're losing your away
• 53:02
  game somewhat. But these home and aways you got
• 53:05
  to if you can get a a sweep here, a sweep there, that's what
• 53:09
  really drives teams to get to the NCAA tournament.
• 53:13
  And if you have it where KU's playing Arizona, Baylor and
• 53:16
  Kansas State. But like, even if the eyeballs
• 53:20
  and for that you're you're giving a chance to KU or one of
• 53:26
  those teams to get swept. And you don't necessarily want
• 53:28
  that as a conference because you want them to be able to make the
• 53:31
  NCAA tournament. That's the only argument I can
• 53:33
  think of. And that's just playing devil's
• 53:35
  advocate. But I was with you.
• 53:37
  I want some of the historic stuff.
• 53:39
  I want some of the best teams playing the best teams.
• 53:42
  But it's for the future of this conference and you know, making
• 53:48
  as much getting, you know, the most bang for your buck out of
• 53:53
  the conference. You got to kind of balance it.
• 53:55
  You got to have some of these home and away for some cupcakes
• 53:58
  for some of these teams. I mean, I don't I don't think
• 54:01
  KKU got any cupcakes for their home and away and they're I
• 54:06
  don't I know this isn't AKU podcast, but I mean they.
• 54:10
  Away at Arizona and Houston. Yeah, I mean, they kind of got
• 54:14
  shaft BYUI mean it's tough, it's tough.
• 54:19
  I mean, they're home. They shouldn't lose a lot of
• 54:21
  home games, though. They should not.
• 54:23
  Meanwhile, meanwhile, I, yeah, well, I, I the other thing, the
• 54:28
  last thing I'll say on the on the rivalries thing is they,
• 54:31
  they also removed what had previously been protective
• 54:36
  rivals. They removed a couple of them,
• 54:39
  at least one of them, TCU is not playing Baylor in a home and
• 54:42
  away. And that's been a protective
• 54:44
  rivalry on the football side and I think on the basketball side
• 54:48
  as well. So that's that's just another
• 54:51
  example of why would you do that?
• 54:56
  They're they're those two teams are each other's biggest rivals.
• 55:00
  You're not going to give them that, that that doesn't make
• 55:03
  sense to me. So that's that's the last thing
• 55:06
  I'll say on. You yeah, it's, it's, it's
• 55:09
  unfortunate, but I think that might be where the conference is
• 55:12
  going. I think they're kind of like the
• 55:14
  Big 8 was the Big eight. That is what it was.
• 55:17
  But like we're, we're a whole new conference now.
• 55:20
  We want everybody to be able to play everybody.
• 55:22
  And maybe maybe in the future, our kids, kids, our kids,
• 55:27
  they'll know these teams as rivals.
• 55:30
  They will, they'll just that that is what it was like.
• 55:33
  They, they don't remember the Big Eight.
• 55:35
  I barely remember the Big Eight. But like, I, I know them as
• 55:40
  rivals. But future rivalries are born.
• 55:43
  They have to be born. Yeah, No, that's fair.
• 55:45
  That's fair. I mean, my, my biggest rivals
• 55:47
  growing up that I can think of, honestly, it's like, yeah,
• 55:50
  Nebraska is in there, but that's, that's faded away.
• 55:54
  But you know, with the recent resurgence on the basketball,
• 55:57
  having to play them kind of come back to into the fold a little
• 56:01
  bit. But you know, honestly, like
• 56:02
  teams I hate are like Texas AM Oklahoma, like Missouri.
• 56:07
  Those are the teams I, I like hate.
• 56:10
  That's I just think of the old, the old Big 12 days.
• 56:13
  But yeah, yeah, I, I don't love the matrix.
• 56:17
  I do think that the schedule at least the the home and away, the
• 56:21
  home and away split there works out to our advantage like
• 56:25
  playing Utah away. I think if if this team is even
• 56:32
  like I don't even if this team is even just like a 500 slightly
• 56:38
  above 500 team, you can beat Utah.
• 56:41
  I think you can beat UCFI think you can.
• 56:44
  I know the matrix didn't get is is pulled down right now, but
• 56:49
  that's 17 games right I. Believe it's 18. 18.
• 56:56
  They were debating that, right, because they were debating
• 56:58
  potentially going back to 20. OK, 8:00 and 10:00 with that
• 57:04
  schedule, I'm OK. I'm OK with eight and ten.
• 57:08
  Yeah, I can see eight wins there.
• 57:11
  There's no reason. You can get Arizona State twice.
• 57:14
  You can get Cincinnati at least once.
• 57:17
  Yeah, that's. Three, you could get KU once at
• 57:20
  home. Not maybe.
• 57:22
  I'm not. I'm not going to.
• 57:23
  I'm going to put that as a sweep for KU.
• 57:25
  I'm I'm be honest. So 3 So OK home games Colorado.
• 57:29
  Yes, got to get it. Oklahoma State.
• 57:32
  You have to have it. You.
• 57:34
  You got to get them. I don't know if you beat Texas
• 57:37
  Tech or not, but we'll see. Probably not.
• 57:39
  I think you get the revenge game against Scott Drew, Baylor and
• 57:43
  Coach Tang. On the road.
• 57:45
  Yes, yes. I like it.
• 57:46
  I like it. So where are we at 7:00?
• 57:48
  That's seven and then UCF. Got to get them.
• 57:53
  It could be 9. I could see this being 9:00 and
• 57:56
  9:00. Optimistically, that's where I'm
• 57:59
  aiming. And I know the past few seasons
• 58:02
  me and you have come to an agreement that we just don't put
• 58:05
  expectations on these basketball teams.
• 58:07
  We just don't do it. But in my fairy tale world, you
• 58:11
  know, in football, we're always talking undefeated this playoff,
• 58:15
  this that, whatever. We've had a we've had a long
• 58:18
  standing relationship with football that our floor is eight
• 58:23
  wins. You know, we don't like going
• 58:26
  below that. Eight wins is right the sweet
• 58:29
  spot where where we need to be. But we can we can always dream
• 58:33
  big in basketball. We've just not even had a floor.
• 58:37
  So it is really hard to put a pipe dream on it.
• 58:40
  And I think for the pipe dream this year, if we could go 9 to 9
• 58:44
  in conference, I will kiss Casey Alexander's bald head.
• 58:50
  Absolutely. Is it?
• 58:51
  Absolutely a giant fathead of Casey Alexander's head right
• 58:56
  here. And I'll kiss him.
• 58:58
  Yeah, I'm I'm with you few 1000%.
• 59:01
  Speaking of Casey Alexander's perfect segue, chef, you team me
• 59:05
  up perfectly for that. He's been going on all the
• 59:07
  podcasts, obviously not ours because we're blackballed.
• 59:10
  Just give him the name being Cocaine Willie.
• 59:13
  But he has gone on ours. But he's been on Bosco's boys.
• 59:15
  He's been on the KSO show, He's been on The Game came in with
• 59:20
  Mitch Fortner. What are your thoughts on some
• 59:23
  of the things he's been talking about?
• 59:24
  He's gotten a lot of really good questions around roster
• 59:27
  construction. You know what it's like living
• 59:30
  in Manhattan and and kind of living outside of the the
• 59:33
  southeast region for the first time in his life about his
• 59:37
  agents being Cubs fan and and things like that.
• 59:40
  But what are some of the highlights of of this media tour
• 59:43
  that he's gone on for you? Was there anything that
• 59:46
  surprised you? Is you're pleased to hear?
• 59:50
  Not pleased to hear just thoughts on on his media.
• 59:53
  Tour I think there's two different ways that I look at
• 59:56
  it. One, getting to know Casey
• 1:00:00
  Alexander just from him speaking, genuinely a good dude.
• 1:00:05
  I like that. I like that he has the persona
• 1:00:07
  that he is humbled he is. He's what?
• 1:00:11
  Oh yeah. Beer with him like.
• 1:00:13
  For sure. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  I mean, that's he, he loves baseball.
• 1:00:15
  That's, you know, throw a couple Brewskies back, watch he he
• 1:00:18
  likes the Cubs. I'm not going to hold that
• 1:00:20
  against them. That's a national brand.
• 1:00:23
  But I mean, he's just a genuinely good dude.
• 1:00:26
  He loves basketball. He loves, he loves his family.
• 1:00:29
  He loves, you know, the people that he's with.
• 1:00:33
  He loves his circle. I like that about him.
• 1:00:35
  I like that he, you know, respects the business that he's
• 1:00:40
  going to go do it the way he wants to do it.
• 1:00:43
  And then there's the basketball side of things.
• 1:00:46
  And we've known that he said some things about, you know, the
• 1:00:51
  the style of offense that he runs.
• 1:00:53
  And it kind of ties back with that last one that I made on the
• 1:00:56
  him personality about his basketball and that how he's
• 1:00:59
  going to do it the way he wants to do it.
• 1:01:01
  He he's saying things where that he doesn't know who the best
• 1:01:07
  player is going to be this, that and the the third.
• 1:01:11
  I don't know. I don't know what to take from
• 1:01:13
  the basketball side of it because it's not unset.
• 1:01:16
  It's not unsettling. Don't don't get me wrong.
• 1:01:18
  I'm not saying that I'm concerned about the basketball
• 1:01:21
  part of it because he is a very good basketball coach.
• 1:01:24
  I don't think he's a roll the floor, but he he has said some
• 1:01:27
  things that are very roll the ball out there kind of things.
• 1:01:32
  And I that is a concern of mine. But it's not unsettling where
• 1:01:37
  I'm not going to give him a shot.
• 1:01:39
  But he is saying some things and he knows ball.
• 1:01:43
  That's the one thing I do know that he knows ball and the way
• 1:01:48
  he's assembled the roster. It's it's very yin and Yang on
• 1:01:51
  the basketball side of things with Casey Alexander and how
• 1:01:54
  he's talked because he knows he knew how to assemble a team
• 1:02:00
  going up this level. And also some of the the the non
• 1:02:05
  K state podcast that he's on. I don't like how they talk to
• 1:02:10
  him. It's very like kind of little
• 1:02:12
  littling him where like, oh, it's oh, you're coming up from
• 1:02:15
  the FDR. Are you ready for this? Like, come on, brother, What
• 1:02:19
  kind of question is that? Like, I don't like that.
• 1:02:22
  That's just very dumb. But he, he is, he's saying some
• 1:02:28
  things that are very yin and Yang for me.
• 1:02:29
  Like he he's saying he doesn't know who the best player is.
• 1:02:32
  He doesn't know what kind of offense they're going to run.
• 1:02:34
  He kind of lets them kind of dictate it on the court.
• 1:02:38
  Not a lot of set plays. But he does know ball and how he
• 1:02:41
  assembled the roster is where I was going.
• 1:02:45
  Is very, very experienced head coach, like he is a head coach.
• 1:02:51
  He's been a head coach for a long time.
• 1:02:53
  He knew what he wanted to do. He knew the vision.
• 1:02:56
  Now the experiment has to work. And I think he's going to have
• 1:03:01
  some rough patches and that's OK.
• 1:03:06
  That is OK. But we, we, I need him to prove
• 1:03:12
  on the basketball side of things that he could take those punches
• 1:03:16
  and give them right back. Because I, that's the only part
• 1:03:19
  of it. And it's just the unknown
• 1:03:21
  really. For me, it's just the unknown
• 1:03:24
  because I have PTSD from roll the ball out there and let the
• 1:03:28
  boys play. Never call a time out, never do
• 1:03:31
  any of that stuff, never coach the team when we're actually
• 1:03:36
  team, we're playing the game. I mean, I'm sure Jerome Tang
• 1:03:42
  threw some hell of a great practices.
• 1:03:44
  Maybe he didn't. I don't know.
• 1:03:45
  Maybe they were, you know, they were supposed to be watching
• 1:03:49
  film at in his basement, but they didn't.
• 1:03:52
  I don't know. You know, those are a lot.
• 1:03:54
  There's a lot of stories about that.
• 1:03:55
  But I hope Casey I have PTSD about that and I don't think
• 1:03:58
  Casey Alexander's that way, but I want him to prove that he's
• 1:04:01
  not. So that's where I'm hanging up
• 1:04:03
  on that. But that's that's it.
• 1:04:05
  Yeah, I, I think the only thing that's really stood out to me is
• 1:04:08
  more of a, you know, red flag possibility that it could be a
• 1:04:12
  rolled ball situation is the set place thing, which you've
• 1:04:15
  mentioned. And he mentioned in a couple of
• 1:04:17
  different media availabilities he had early on.
• 1:04:21
  But I mean, even just hearing him talk about his philosophy
• 1:04:25
  of, Hey, when we're, when we're playing offense, we want to try
• 1:04:27
  to make sure that we have the best available shot and that
• 1:04:30
  we're taking the best shot that we have to us on the team.
• 1:04:33
  And that when we're on defense, we're trying to eliminate the
• 1:04:36
  best available shot for the other team.
• 1:04:38
  It seems very high level. But I feel like we, we never
• 1:04:41
  really got that from, from the last guy, even just, you know,
• 1:04:46
  maybe God gave him a Bible verse to read that had something to do
• 1:04:49
  with David and Goliath. And that was his defensive
• 1:04:52
  philosophy of the day. Or like, I just again, it just
• 1:04:56
  it feels nice to have a guy who clearly knows what he's talking
• 1:04:59
  about. He has also played basketball,
• 1:05:02
  college basketball at, at Belmont, like he's played the
• 1:05:05
  game at A at a high level or collegiate level.
• 1:05:08
  He's coached at a collegiate level for a number of years now,
• 1:05:12
  I think 15 years or something like that, at least as a head
• 1:05:14
  coach. So I I just am glad that we have
• 1:05:18
  a guy who knows what he's doing and how to do it and how to
• 1:05:22
  assemble a team in a roster that makes sense.
• 1:05:26
  Again, I think the only thing when we when we talked about the
• 1:05:28
  initial roster composition of the team that didn't maybe make
• 1:05:31
  sense is we don't necessarily have that lead guard, but he has
• 1:05:35
  a lot of belief in Jalen Alexander coming in from high
• 1:05:38
  school to be able to compete for a starting starting guard
• 1:05:42
  position for next year. So yeah, I, I love the size of
• 1:05:47
  the team. I love some of the stuff that
• 1:05:49
  he's saying. He just seems like a really down
• 1:05:51
  to earth, humble guy. And I love when a humble guy
• 1:05:55
  comes in and and is doing the job of head coach because that
• 1:05:57
  that says more to me about he's going to be the kind of guy
• 1:06:01
  who's going to be a servant leader and him really lead by
• 1:06:04
  example on the team as opposed to him having an ego.
• 1:06:08
  All the other guys in the room having an ego and having to
• 1:06:11
  check it or not check it. And then there's butting of
• 1:06:14
  heads and then there's locker room problems and then guys are
• 1:06:16
  sitting out half the season inexplicably.
• 1:06:19
  And and again, it just creates a toxic mess and and I don't see
• 1:06:23
  that happening with a guy like Casey Alexander.
• 1:06:25
  He seems like a humble guy, but a guy who can also discipline
• 1:06:29
  and and get on someone if they need to be, You know, someone
• 1:06:32
  needs to get on them for something if it, if that ever
• 1:06:36
  does come up. So because he he made a comment
• 1:06:38
  something along the lines of, and I think this was to Mason on
• 1:06:42
  KSO. But when you're going through
• 1:06:44
  the recruiting process with these guys, everybody's on their
• 1:06:46
  best behavior. But when you get them in the
• 1:06:48
  room and they're committed and they're enrolled, it's a little
• 1:06:51
  bit of a different story. Sometime you start to get to get
• 1:06:54
  a feel for their personalities and and the real them comes out
• 1:06:58
  in some cases. And so it's kind of a whole
• 1:07:00
  different getting to know you scenario when they actually get
• 1:07:04
  in the door and get in the facility.
• 1:07:06
  But he said things have been good there.
• 1:07:07
  So, you know, maybe, maybe that raises a little red flag of
• 1:07:11
  maybe someone came in and isn't what he thought they were.
• 1:07:14
  But I hope that was more of an an example from previous years
• 1:07:18
  or or maybe it's like a smaller case but.
• 1:07:22
  I think that's just for me, like you said, just years of coaching
• 1:07:25
  basketball. I mean, that's just that that's
• 1:07:28
  that's personality of just meeting anybody, whether you're
• 1:07:31
  at work or anything, like everybody interviews on their
• 1:07:34
  best behavior, wearing the suit and tie.
• 1:07:36
  But as soon as you got the job I'm going to, I'm going to Slack
• 1:07:38
  off a little bit. But I'm going to give him every
• 1:07:42
  grace that I possibly can. Absolutely.
• 1:07:45
  And, you know, I'm not calling for Casey for a while, so I'm
• 1:07:51
  going to let him build this up. High school recruiting, I want
• 1:07:54
  to see him do that. And I I that's one thing.
• 1:07:57
  Every year, he said from high school today, he said.
• 1:07:59
  That I did, but I, I didn't hear any of you know, buddy ask him
• 1:08:04
  his recruiting base. I've always, I've always
• 1:08:08
  wondered this because he is a, a Southern guy, a Tennessee guy.
• 1:08:11
  Tennessee's not that far from Kansas.
• 1:08:13
  I mean, it's a state over, but you know what is his because I
• 1:08:18
  looked through his his Belmont, his Belmont classes.
• 1:08:22
  I looked through Belmont's roster.
• 1:08:24
  I mean, international obviously check.
• 1:08:27
  It seems like a lot of Indiana, lot of that northern.
• 1:08:32
  Midwest. Yeah, Northern Midwest kind of
• 1:08:37
  base. I'm wondering where where he
• 1:08:40
  recruits and if he even not knows.
• 1:08:43
  That's a very that's dumb if he wants to recruit locally.
• 1:08:50
  Yeah. And I know I I might have
• 1:08:52
  brought this up on another podcast.
• 1:08:53
  I'm not sure, but that's still sticking with me because I
• 1:08:56
  haven't heard anybody ask him that.
• 1:08:58
  Like what is his philosophy and what, where's his footprint
• 1:09:02
  going to be at trying to recruit to Manhattan, KS, Because
• 1:09:05
  obviously recruiting to Nashville is a little bit
• 1:09:07
  different. I mean, you can still sell the
• 1:09:09
  southern, you still sell that you can, I mean, kind of sell to
• 1:09:12
  anybody, but getting people out the Kansas.
• 1:09:15
  And I don't want to play the woe as US card, but like recruiting
• 1:09:18
  at the Manhattan Manhattan, KS is a shock to a lot of people.
• 1:09:23
  So I wonder what his recruiting base is and what his philosophy
• 1:09:27
  is of telling kids how to get them out to Kansas.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, I, you did mention that on the last part that we did of, of
• 1:09:34
  trying to understand what is his recruiting base.
• 1:09:36
  Is he more of a Chicago guy, Nashville guy?
• 1:09:38
  Is he going to try to recruit more locally in Kansas?
• 1:09:41
  So I, I, I think that will be seen, which is going to be, it's
• 1:09:46
  fascinating to see how that plays out.
• 1:09:49
  Awesome. I mean the last thing I have
• 1:09:50
  here. This is just for fun.
• 1:09:52
  I don't know. I don't know how long we'll be
• 1:09:56
  able to do this or what the format of this should look like.
• 1:09:58
  I think maybe we just try to perfect ball, no remote.
• 1:10:03
  Let's see, let's get this going. So for those who don't know,
• 1:10:07
  this thing's been floating around this like 80.
• 1:10:10
  We can the perfect NBA team and there are now there's an NHL 1,
• 1:10:16
  which is super fun. I'm very difficult.
• 1:10:18
  There's a football 1 for the NFL.
• 1:10:20
  There's a college football 1. I haven't seen a college
• 1:10:23
  basketball 1, but I'm sure there's one out there.
• 1:10:27
  And I haven't seen an MLB one. But going 162 and O is possible.
• 1:10:34
  But if you count the extra series, that's math I'm not
• 1:10:37
  going to do right now. All right, I'm gonna do it on
• 1:10:39
  ball knower mode. So class 4 gives you gives you
• 1:10:42
  ratings and stats. No, we don't want that.
• 1:10:45
  All knower mode I give you ratings and stats and then
• 1:10:48
  there's going to be a sicko mode which will include G5.
• 1:10:53
  Which would be nice. Which would be nice.
• 1:10:56
  But as of right now 6 is locked so I don't believe you can do
• 1:11:00
  that yet. Should we do it ranked or
• 1:11:03
  practice? Ranked you have to put your
• 1:11:05
  e-mail in there. You don't want to have to do
• 1:11:07
  that right now. Let's just get this practice
• 1:11:10
  going all. Right.
• 1:11:11
  Spin. So my first is what's your
• 1:11:14
  what's your theory on re spins? How when do you try to do it?
• 1:11:19
  Because I try to save at least one for the end if I can.
• 1:11:23
  It depends on I think it depends on first of all, I like to go if
• 1:11:29
  it depends on what the decade is, because I think the the
• 1:11:31
  decade is the most powerful one. Because if you start spinning,
• 1:11:36
  if you get something from the 60s or 70s, you're basically
• 1:11:40
  cooked at receiver and you have to, you have to go era.
• 1:11:43
  But I like Boston College in the 2000s.
• 1:11:48
  I know has to be Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was a dog.
• 1:11:52
  BJ Raji also a dog. Tom O'Brien's out of there.
• 1:11:57
  I don't know who. Mathias Kiwanuka was good.
• 1:12:02
  He was a good NFL player. I don't know who Mark Hertzik
• 1:12:06
  Hertzschlik is. I don't know William Green.
• 1:12:10
  What's that Willie Green from? I don't know.
• 1:12:13
  That's 2. 1000 I don't know. Man, I could see Matt Ryan here.
• 1:12:19
  Matt Ryan probably was an all ACCI don't know if he was ever.
• 1:12:26
  Was he an All American? He might have been.
• 1:12:28
  He might have been a Heisman finalist as well.
• 1:12:31
  He might have been. I think we go Matt Ryan here
• 1:12:34
  though. But the the problem is yeah.
• 1:12:38
  I mean. You can you're gonna you're
• 1:12:43
  gonna get good. I think maybe we re spend team
• 1:12:47
  because we could get we could get Miami in the 2000s and we
• 1:12:54
  have a plethora of I think we go spit re spend team.
• 1:12:57
  OK, we're re spinning team. That's it.
• 1:13:06
  Fuck, yeah, we fucked. OK, maybe, maybe we go
• 1:13:10
  conference here. Just get these.
• 1:13:12
  Get these conference, get the spins out of here.
• 1:13:17
  Kansas Aubrey seen dog. Desmond Briscoe, That's a.
• 1:13:22
  Name. I mean, a keep to Lieb wasn't
• 1:13:25
  all American. I would probably go to Lieb
• 1:13:28
  here. I'd go a keep to Lieb as well.
• 1:13:31
  Did we pass up on Matt Ryan for a piece of lead?
• 1:13:35
  Oh, and now we're talking. OK, I so if we're talking 1980s
• 1:13:41
  or 70s and it's not like Oklahoma or Nebraska, I just.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, we're cooked though, because if we would have had the
• 1:13:50
  80s defender here, we could have had Reggie White, who was an all
• 1:13:54
  time legend. I think we have to expend ERA.
• 1:13:57
  I know it's early, but I think we spent ERA.
• 1:14:01
  This is just our first 90. OK, OK.
• 1:14:03
  Oh. Phil Fuller, we've got some
• 1:14:08
  options here. I think we go Jason Witten, he
• 1:14:10
  was an all American. Jason Witten, that flex spinning
• 1:14:16
  north. I mean, Pat Fitzgerald, I mean,
• 1:14:20
  he turned around Northwestern. I mean, he's going to at least
• 1:14:24
  be an 80. That's the problem.
• 1:14:26
  He's going to at least be an 80. Justin Jackson.
• 1:14:29
  I don't know who that is. OK.
• 1:14:33
  I don't know you, Sam 2020 Fuck. You do have Davis Mills Mills
• 1:14:41
  here. I mean, EJ Smith is Emmett
• 1:14:44
  Smith's son, is he? He ain't no dog.
• 1:14:50
  There ain't no dogs on the screen.
• 1:14:53
  OK, We're going to have to restart this.
• 1:14:55
  You might have to cut this out. Davis Mills.
• 1:15:00
  Oh, we got Davis Mills at quarterback.
• 1:15:02
  This is bad. Hey.
• 1:15:04
  Mcdonaldson. CJ went to, went transferred to
• 1:15:07
  Ohio State to be a backup. That's.
• 1:15:10
  Cool, I could do that. All right, this is going to be
• 1:15:13
  the word. We're going to go.
• 1:15:14
  We're going to have a losing record.
• 1:15:16
  Going to be God. Can we run you?
• 1:15:21
  Run you. This is going to be the worst of
• 1:15:24
  all time. We now we got to take a head
• 1:15:25
  coach. Wide receiver Virginia 90s
• 1:15:29
  Herman Moore option at wide receiver 70.
• 1:15:35
  All right, we got our footing here.
• 1:15:36
  We got our footing. Herman Moore actually wasn't 84.
• 1:15:42
  All right, we're good. We should not, we should not
• 1:15:45
  have passed up on all. Right.
• 1:15:48
  All right, there's in the 80s. Fuck, I don't know anybody from
• 1:15:53
  Rutgers in the 80s. David Dorn.
• 1:15:56
  That name sounds familiar. Who?
• 1:15:59
  David Dorn? The wide receiver David Dorn?
• 1:16:02
  I don't know him. Here's my thing with the 70s and
• 1:16:05
  80s is because the offenses were like Trish thrown offenses
• 1:16:10
  defenses are like I feel like most of the defenses were way
• 1:16:14
  better. Like I feel like your odds are
• 1:16:16
  going to be better getting defenses in the 80s and 70s
• 1:16:19
  unless you it's like, OK, you're you're going after like whoever
• 1:16:25
  the quarterback in Oklahoma or Nebraska was running the
• 1:16:27
  wishbone in the 70s like. Big 10 in the 80s, I'm thinking
• 1:16:31
  if you I I know we did this last time, but Rutgers is.
• 1:16:34
  Bad the yeast at this point who they would have been Big East.
• 1:16:39
  This yeah, but it says Big 10 on there.
• 1:16:41
  I don't think they would. I don't think they're going to
• 1:16:43
  give us another Big East. I think they're going to give us
• 1:16:45
  a Big 10 team. So I think we I think we take re
• 1:16:48
  spin team. OK.
• 1:16:52
  OK, Joe Paw got to take. Todd Black.
• 1:16:56
  Got to take Joe, got to take Joe Paw all.
• 1:16:58
  Right, Joe Paw, The best team I've had yet was 14 and one, and
• 1:17:03
  Joe Paw was the head coach. Oh, Hershel, Give me Hershel.
• 1:17:06
  Hershel. Got to take Hershel at running
• 1:17:08
  back. OK, do you want him?
• 1:17:10
  You want him at running back. Yeah, because then it gives you
• 1:17:13
  2 options at wide receiver and running back.
• 1:17:15
  OK, fuck. Clemson in the 70s.
• 1:17:20
  Steve Fuller I mean, this has to be an era, and we just hope for
• 1:17:26
  two 2000 tens up. Let's fucking go, OK?
• 1:17:32
  Cake Club Nick. You gotta take that.
• 1:17:34
  Oh, we can't take that. Well, fuck Peter Woods.
• 1:17:38
  Peter Woods is really good. Antonio Williams, bow collars.
• 1:17:43
  Philmouth. Miles Murphy.
• 1:17:48
  Maybe they weren't as good as I remember.
• 1:17:50
  Miles Murphy, that sounds. TJ Parker.
• 1:17:55
  Club Nick, Club Nick's all right.
• 1:17:56
  Yeah, I think, I think Peter Woods is the guy though, right?
• 1:18:02
  Peter Woods, Colorado 2010's Phillip is the only name.
• 1:18:11
  Yuck, yuck. You got to give me a give me
• 1:18:14
  conference. OK, OK, OK.
• 1:18:19
  Michael Floyd. Tyler Eifert's really good, but
• 1:18:22
  I don't want to take, I don't want to take Tyler Eifert.
• 1:18:25
  I think. I think we take Will Fuller here
• 1:18:30
  or Michael Floyd. Fuck.
• 1:18:32
  Michael Floyd was good too. Michael Floyd or Will?
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, I think Will Fuller. I think it's Will Fuller.
• 1:18:40
  I'm. Thinking Fuller.
• 1:18:41
  Yeah, give me somebody good. Hey, Ollie Gordon.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah, it has to be Ollie Gordon, right?
• 1:18:50
  Yeah, Oregon. Chad Johnson, Chad Ocho.
• 1:18:57
  Single Ocho. We could go Ocho.
• 1:19:00
  Yeah, I don't mind Ocho here. He's got to be the take.
• 1:19:03
  Come on, give me a good quarterback fuck.
• 1:19:07
  Devin Washington and Justin Thomas.
• 1:19:11
  Quan Marshall. I don't know them.
• 1:19:15
  Oh man, we could have had somebody good, dude.
• 1:19:20
  Fuck, This is why I like to keep one of the respins for the end,
• 1:19:24
  just in case. Just in.
• 1:19:26
  What was our first? Our first one was Rutgers in the
• 1:19:29
  80s. We would have had no shot the
• 1:19:33
  Quan Marshall. It is then because I don't know
• 1:19:35
  those other guys. I literally don't know them.
• 1:19:39
  A 68. A 68 with Herschel Walker on the
• 1:19:43
  team? Are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:19:45
  Chad Johnson was only a 78 in college.
• 1:19:49
  What? Oh, we stayed.
• 1:19:52
  We got a dope Walker winner too. Damn, we had the we had the Doke
• 1:19:58
  Walker Heisman. I mean, we were good until we
• 1:20:03
  got to Taquan, Marshall and fucking.
• 1:20:07
  Will Fuller, Justin. Thomas was the stronger QB.
• 1:20:11
  What was he, a 76? It has Michael Floyd as a higher
• 1:20:16
  rated wide receiver than Will. Yeah, damn.
• 1:20:19
  OK, We're learning. This is the final.
• 1:20:21
  This is the finale right here we got to get.
• 1:20:22
  All right. Last one, last one.
• 1:20:25
  All right, Come on, baby. We know Ball.
• 1:20:27
  We know Ball. Taylor, give me Robert.
• 1:20:31
  Give me Robert. OK.
• 1:20:35
  All right. Mark Burton.
• 1:20:38
  Georgia Tech in the 90s. I think they were actually
• 1:20:43
  pretty good. I know Keith Brooking played for
• 1:20:46
  the Falcons for a long time. I don't know any of those other
• 1:20:50
  fellas, though. I know Keith Brookings played in
• 1:20:53
  the NFL and I think I think defense gets a lot of credit.
• 1:20:57
  Like you were saying, I think Keith Brookings has to be the
• 1:21:00
  linebacker pick here. OK, all right, Defensive
• 1:21:03
  players, Keith Brooking, Georgia Tech in the 90s, Oklahoma,
• 1:21:07
  Twenty 20s. I mean, Lincoln or Eric Gray.
• 1:21:12
  Eric Gray broke the record for rushing versus KU or was that
• 1:21:19
  what's his nuts? Was that was that per?
• 1:21:24
  What's the guy Perrine? No, what's his last name?
• 1:21:30
  Samaji P Ryan. Samaji P Ryan.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah, that was Samaji. Damn, is this an heiress?
• 1:21:36
  Because I think you can't go wrong unless you want to take
• 1:21:39
  Lincoln. Lincoln hasn't won shit though.
• 1:21:42
  I don't want to take Lincoln. I think this is an heiress. 90s.
• 1:21:48
  It was the worst era in fucking Oklahoma.
• 1:21:52
  You got to be kidding. Oh, like, this is tough.
• 1:22:01
  I mean, you got a blue blood program in Oklahoma and you
• 1:22:04
  can't get me anybody. But I think they would have gave
• 1:22:08
  Lincoln Riley an 84 and I think we would have been solid.
• 1:22:12
  There. I guess you have to go.
• 1:22:15
  Blake. Did you go conference?
• 1:22:21
  Sure. OK, I hate passing up on the
• 1:22:24
  blue blood like Oklahoma, though.
• 1:22:28
  Hey. OK, Eddie.
• 1:22:30
  I mean, OK, hold on. What do we have here?
• 1:22:33
  Eddie George is a Heisman. Eddie George is a Heisman.
• 1:22:36
  Give me Eddie. Eddie is a Heisman.
• 1:22:39
  You. Gotta be crazy not stake Eddie
• 1:22:41
  George there over me. You got to give me a different
• 1:22:47
  team. You have to.
• 1:22:49
  I can't. I mean, Jaden OTT, he end up
• 1:22:52
  transferring to Oklahoma. He was OK.
• 1:22:55
  He had a decent season. I just don't remember him being
• 1:22:59
  better than they were going to give him like a 78.
• 1:23:04
  And that's the only person I have on there.
• 1:23:07
  Oh, OK, OK. OK.
• 1:23:09
  Rhett Lashley. Oh.
• 1:23:11
  Rashee Rice. Rashee Rice.
• 1:23:14
  Rashee Rice was a dog in college.
• 1:23:16
  He had like 1700 receiving yards.
• 1:23:20
  You want to take Rashi. I like Rashi.
• 1:23:22
  Give me Rashi. Rashi wide receiver, give us
• 1:23:26
  something good fucking. God damn it, dude.
• 1:23:30
  Know who any? Of I don't know any of these
• 1:23:33
  fuck nuts. Thomas Lewis and we have no
• 1:23:35
  respins. I know we suck.
• 1:23:40
  All right, give me. Kurt Zignetti.
• 1:23:43
  Yeah, give me a. Bill Mallory.
• 1:23:47
  Give me, I guess the coach would hurt the least.
• 1:23:51
  I think it can, yeah. I know they didn't win a single
• 1:23:56
  game. God damn it, this.
• 1:23:58
  Again. Tracy Perry, I'm not taking a
• 1:24:03
  tight end and I'm not taking a wide receiver from the. 70s back
• 1:24:06
  in the IT has to be all right. He's at Flex Wisconsin Twenty
• 1:24:12
  10's and we don't get any of the good players like John Taylor,
• 1:24:17
  Russell Wilson or Monty Ball, Jared Abraderis.
• 1:24:22
  Hey, that's the white boy. He cooked Ohio State.
• 1:24:30
  We we have two Heisman winners. That was this team.
• 1:24:34
  Only three wins. We can't go out like this.
• 1:24:37
  What are we talking about here? We.
• 1:24:39
  Have two Heisman winners. Oh my God.
• 1:24:44
  Damn they did Rashi Rice bad. Yeah, why?
• 1:24:48
  Is he sorry? I'm going to get rid of this
• 1:24:50
  thing. Rashi Rice was 74.
• 1:24:53
  Jared Abradare is 72. Wow, they actually had Jerry
• 1:24:58
  Butler as an 85 and and that was a 70s receiver.
• 1:25:02
  I don't know him. No all.
• 1:25:06
  Right, dude, I can't. I can't go out like that.
• 1:25:08
  No, no or ball logs. They're going to clown us for
• 1:25:13
  this. OK all.
• 1:25:14
  Right. Notre Dame in the 90s, We're.
• 1:25:16
  Working with Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz has 2/2, had two
• 1:25:19
  Maddie's. Oh fuck yeah.
• 1:25:22
  But Lou Holtz got Natty's though.
• 1:25:24
  Lou Holtz got Natty's. OK, Lou Holtz, Lou Holtz.
• 1:25:28
  All right, Lou Holtz, we're. Strong.
• 1:25:31
  We're strong. Oh my God, we're strong.
• 1:25:34
  Braylon Edwards, Lamar Woodley, Chad Henney.
• 1:25:39
  I think. I think, I think you go Lamar
• 1:25:41
  Woodley here, I think that's like a solid 85.
• 1:25:44
  I think he's one of the best defenders ever at Michigan.
• 1:25:47
  All right. Lamar Woodley on defense.
• 1:25:50
  Fuck. Fuck in Kansas in the 70s.
• 1:25:53
  Give me a oh I hate to do era. I think we've got to re spin
• 1:25:57
  this. I know, but if what?
• 1:26:00
  Back to the 60s, which it doesn't.
• 1:26:02
  Then we would at least have a shot of GAIL Savers.
• 1:26:05
  But I mean if we do ERA it's Kansas and every decade until
• 1:26:10
  the twenty 20s has been bad. Also 2. 1007 still.
• 1:26:14
  Exists. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:26:16
  Because we we had to keep to leave, but we already drafted on
• 1:26:19
  defense so. Maybe we go team and then hope
• 1:26:24
  for Oklahoma. Or yes, Oklahoma.
• 1:26:29
  Silly Sims, Billy Sims. Joe Washington was good, too.
• 1:26:33
  All right, Billy Sims, so Ole Miss in the 90s.
• 1:26:38
  Deuce McAllister is a dog. That's the only one I know on
• 1:26:42
  there. He's.
• 1:26:44
  Literally. Tommy Tuberville was the coach
• 1:26:47
  at Ole Miss in the 90s. Are you kidding me?
• 1:26:50
  No way. I didn't know that.
• 1:26:53
  I did not know that at all. Deuce McAllister.
• 1:26:56
  Deuce McAllister at Flex. Right.
• 1:26:59
  Sold Purdue in the 70s. We can't do that.
• 1:27:03
  We we asked Larry. Burton, We.
• 1:27:06
  Can't do that. Yeah, we can't do that.
• 1:27:07
  You got to give me, give me a conference.
• 1:27:09
  Conference B&M in the 70s Bubba Bean.
• 1:27:14
  Bubba Bean. He's our only choice and I think
• 1:27:17
  because I've played this game enough, Bubba Bean is a solid
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  enough choice. OK, I like it.
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  We're going with the beans. It's.
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  Another wishbone, rather. This is a bad decade for
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  Arkansas, too. Ryan, Matt.
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  I mean, what is a good decade for Arkansas?
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  Well, and they had Darren McFadden in the 2000s.
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  But we don't need a running back, We need a wide receiver
• 1:27:41
  and a quarterback. So we're trying to.
• 1:27:43
  Screw. That Ryan Mallett probably has
• 1:27:45
  to be the choice here. Ryan.
• 1:27:50
  Mallett brings us down so bad. Here's here's my only question.
• 1:27:55
  Do we hope? Do we re spin and get a wide
• 1:27:58
  receiver and hope for the best? Arkansas wide receiver.
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  I don't know any Arkansas. Wide.
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  No, that's no, you're right. You're right.
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  All right. I'm now Ryan Mallon.
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  Ryan Mallon. Hey, OK, Raylen Pole.
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  Good. Roma Dunsay.
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  Oh, I like your pick. I like Rome.
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  I was going to go Rome. Jalen Mcmillan's good too,
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  though. No, Ted ain't no Tedaroa.
• 1:28:28
  Ain't no team man right? 11 AM with that.
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  Let's go. We'll end on that bubble bean
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  you said at 82. Yeah, I.
• 1:28:37
  Told you. OK, Deuce McAllister, Deuce
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  McAllister our low man and Ryan freaking Mallet.
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  If we would have had RG3 in this one, we would have cooked if we
• 1:28:49
  would have cooked. I like it though.
• 1:28:53
  Damn this is a fun game. This is a fun exercise.
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  Yeah, this, this should cap off the pot every week.
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