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Sal Vulcano _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _506(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I want to announce that we have a show in Cork,
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  Speaker 1: Ireland now on June 9th at Live at the Marquee,
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  Speaker 1: New York City, New York, May 31st, Belfast, London, Idaho Falls,
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  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, and Las Vegas, Nevada there. Fourth of
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  Speaker 1: July weekend, we'll be there in Las Vegas, Nevada for
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  Speaker 1: two nights at Resorts World. You can get all tickets
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  Speaker 1: at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. And thank you for your support.
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  Speaker 1: And if tickets are too expensive, make sure you're not
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  Speaker 1: buying them on a secondary site. You got to do that.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we suggest go through the website. And if
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  Speaker 1: they're sold out or something and they're expensive on secondary sites,
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  Speaker 1: just hold the line.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back through some other time. I love you guys, baby.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Today's guest has his first stand-up special, Terrified, premiering on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube on May 31st. He is one of the most
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  Speaker 1: energetic and engaging and humorous humans that I've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: You know him from Impractical Jokers and just from the
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  Speaker 1: years of joy he's brought to all of us. Today's
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  Speaker 1: guest is Mr. Sal Volcano.
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  Speaker 3: I'll sit and tell you my stories.
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  Speaker 2: Shine on me.
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  Speaker 3: And I will find a song I've been singing all
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  Speaker 3: my life.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Love you, buddy. So nice to see you. Good to
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  Speaker 2: see you, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you, man. Yeah, we waited to say
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  Speaker 1: hey to each other kind of until the episode started.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, so this is the episode starting now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just letting people know.
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  Speaker 1: Because sometimes, yeah, you start the episode and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, we're already going. And then it's like you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of will get rid of some of the
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  Speaker 1: good energy in the beginning, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it.
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  Speaker 1: I got the good energy. I was looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: seeing you, man. Yeah, same, dude, 100%. Yeah, so what's different? Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the other place, like, we still have, like, our
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  Speaker 1: producers that work there every day.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We got Zach and Nick, and they work over there
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  Speaker 1: just making sure everything's smooth, planning ahead. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, it's been different being here, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How far are you from here? This is not, you
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  Speaker 4: don't post, you stay here?
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  Speaker 2: I live here.
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  Speaker 1: You live where we're at right now? Yeah. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you like arrived from somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you've been here?
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  Speaker 2: I've been here. Oh, I thought you like arrived here.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, it's a big office, man. I was like, damn.
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  Speaker 2: I fell asleep here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 4: No, this is your permanent area.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my residence. Oh, right on, okay. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is my legal residence, man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's so cool. All right, so this is a
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  Speaker 4: great setup, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. When you went to scope the place out,
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  Speaker 2: this had to be like a big.
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  Speaker 4: selling point that you could make that.
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  Speaker 1: Well this is that this existed kind of was like
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  Speaker 1: oh wow so i could maybe make this work you
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  Speaker 1: know yeah i wish there was a little more space
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  Speaker 1: sometimes up.
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  Speaker 2: Here or yeah yeah up here but um though.
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  Speaker 1: Yes i mean it's been look that's the thing it's
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  Speaker 1: like do i need more like i looked at a
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  Speaker 1: house the other day that has like a like basically
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  Speaker 1: the front is kind of almost an office okay um
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  Speaker 1: and i was like well i could do that And
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  Speaker 1: then I'm like, but do I need more? You know, it's,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's about figuring out what you really need
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  Speaker 1: kind of. Yeah, man. And what you want, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And then I'm not home as much
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  Speaker 1: as I would like to be. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You do a lot of roads still right now, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Still touring. And then sometimes I'll go do
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  Speaker 1: podcasts on the road. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm, I've been trying to like, uh, I live
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  Speaker 2: in a condo still. I've been trying to build a house.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 2: Weren't you guys building a house for a while? We
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  Speaker 2: talked about this last time. Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: Dude, no joke. I haven't progressed at all.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: We're supposed to knock down a house and build a house.
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  Speaker 2: And I had to go through the process of like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this stuff. Like getting an
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  Speaker 2: architect and making the plans and then demoing the thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not handy. I don't really know anything about
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. And it's just been like the... The worst experience.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had stuff. You just start squatting. Aren't you
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  Speaker 4: in New York?
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  Speaker 2: I am, yeah. I bought the property years ago. I
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  Speaker 2: thought I'd be living there already. But it's all about...
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  Speaker 2: So we've been making refinements. Isn't it by a river
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  Speaker 2: or something? It's by the Hudson. It's by the New
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  Speaker 2: York there on the water. It's pretty dope. I have
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  Speaker 2: questioned in the last three years not doing it three
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  Speaker 2: times already and just saying... Fuck it, because it's just
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  Speaker 2: been so tough to do.
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  Speaker 1: That's me.
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  Speaker 2: No worries.
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  Speaker 4: You know what that said?
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  Speaker 1: You're going to laugh at me.
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  Speaker 4: It said, no smoking, no junk except fruit every day.
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  Speaker 1: That's my album. Wow. Just to make sure. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: you know when I smoke weed, I eat. It's no good.
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  Speaker 1: So you'll smoke and then you'll eat.
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  Speaker 2: I play this game myself where it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: if I smoke tonight, I'll let myself smoke if I
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  Speaker 2: don't eat.
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  Speaker 4: If I eat, I can't smoke. And then when you're high,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But you know.
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  Speaker 4: And it just happens over and over and over and over.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not even like we're laughing, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: an issue. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I was trying to lose.
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  Speaker 2: Weight because I shot the special, and I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to lose weight for that.
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  Speaker 4: And so I did really good. I lost a ton
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  Speaker 4: of weight.
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  Speaker 1: You look a lot leaner. Thanks. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's been over time, but it's from my heaviest a
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  Speaker 2: year and a half ago, probably down 50.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 4: I fluctuate up and down 50 my whole life, though.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, now I'm trying to, like, break down even, like,
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  Speaker 2: the next– get down to, like, next 20 or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just tough because I'm so stressed. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first thing I.
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  Speaker 1: Want to do.
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  Speaker 2: The weed is, like, at the end of the night,
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  Speaker 2: I cannot turn off– I can't turn off my brain
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  Speaker 2: unless I just.
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  Speaker 1: Smoke a little.
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  Speaker 2: And otherwise I won't be able to sleep. I won't
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  Speaker 2: be able to just, like, stop. Everything just keeps racing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I would love to be able to have that.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could smoke dope or even smoke crack, honestly, sometimes. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then it's, like, how do you also– get some rest,
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  Speaker 1: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're going to rest with the
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  Speaker 4: crack though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you rest with the crack.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I never really like, I feel like I have known
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  Speaker 2: people that have done crack. I haven't talked to them
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  Speaker 2: about it. When I say I know them, I was
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  Speaker 2: probably a kid and there was people that worked around
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  Speaker 2: where I live with my, and I think they did crack.
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  Speaker 4: That was a rumor.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't really, I don't really know what crack does.
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  Speaker 1: It's a functional, like the, my pillow guy, he did
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  Speaker 1: it his whole building the pillows, you know? Really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so good things can come out of it. There
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  Speaker 2: are crack success stories. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what the secret is? It's like crack in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they dust a pillow with crack before they
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  Speaker 2: ship it.
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  Speaker 4: People are like, yo, this is the best fucking pillow
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  Speaker 4: I've ever had in my life. This is my pillow.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have that shit. It's like Crack Bay, that
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  Speaker 1: guy like this, you know?
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  Speaker 4: There's a guy on the assembly line just like as
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  Speaker 4: they pass.
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  Speaker 2: No but like crack is like crack like is it
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  Speaker 2: crack like cocaine or is it like heroin or is
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  Speaker 2: it like.
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  Speaker 1: Both let's bring up a little bit of crack if
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  Speaker 1: you can yeah and bring up a crack rock.
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  Speaker 4: Crack I think crack.
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  Speaker 2: Was it hasn't been as big as it was when
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  Speaker 2: we were younger when we were younger it was like
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  Speaker 2: you know sleep breathe crack.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was in the black population too I think
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  Speaker 1: they and I think there's documentaries and I haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: this but I believe there's documentaries that they I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was Unleashed on.
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  Speaker 2: The black community or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, is that right? I don't know if it's true.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it isn't true. I just
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen, I didn't go down, I've never gone down that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: How do you. Yeah, how do you make it? Can
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  Speaker 1: you give me some information on it? Yeah, what's the.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a beautiful picture, not beautiful. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: different images. There's an assortment. It looks like Crack had
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  Speaker 1: a photo session. Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 2: Because those are all like how you shoot eBay items,
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  Speaker 2: you know. It's not like in the wild Crack. It's
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  Speaker 2: like Crack in a studio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like somebody made a charcuterie board with crack.
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  Speaker 2: I bet you there's been a drug party before where
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  Speaker 2: it's been laid out like charcuterie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like in the high-end drug parties, like in the hills
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. Oh, dude, I heard of this. It's like
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  Speaker 4: a little prosciutto and a little bit of like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A little camembert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little Sauvignon crack. Really appealing, too.
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  Speaker 2: Like people went to the party and they never did
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  Speaker 2: drugs before, but then they were like, looks good, though.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they're like, oh, there's no way that crack
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  Speaker 1: rock doesn't go with that fig jam. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Fig jam is my favorite thing on that charcuterie board.
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  Speaker 2: It's not always on there, but it gives you the
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  Speaker 2: sweetness that you need to cut through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love a good fig jam.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's undervalued, I think. It's kind of the,
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  Speaker 2: it's underappreciated. Yet it's costly, which is really the dichotomy
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  Speaker 2: about fig jam, probably. Undervalued, but overpriced.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When was the last time you had fake jam?
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  Speaker 1: I think when you're saying it, when someone is, when
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  Speaker 1: I've been at someone's house that has, I guess, rich
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, and they have fancy wine corkers or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: like that bottle of the wine, and then they'll have
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  Speaker 1: a charcuterie board sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got a charcuterie board for the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have Fig Jam on it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had Fig Jam on it.
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  Speaker 1: Really? But it also had jalapeno poppers on it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I did have wings as well.
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  Speaker 1: I had wings.
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  Speaker 2: I had other things. Normally, we'll make it, but then...
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  Speaker 2: my lady found someone who did it. She went to
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  Speaker 2: a party, and she was like, whoa. And she got
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  Speaker 2: the number, and then we ordered it.
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  Speaker 4: And they bring it.
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  Speaker 2: It was on a four-foot board. And you've got to
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  Speaker 2: pay a little extra for it. But for the guests,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 1: It's almost a level of how rich you're willing to
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  Speaker 1: be when you go down the charcuterie boards. Because there's
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  Speaker 1: also different sizes. There's the Noah's Ark. And you can
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  Speaker 1: go all the way down to the Titanic door.
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  Speaker 4: The Santa Maria.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. There's like the Nina. Sorry. And that's your joke, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I stepped on it. And you can go all the
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  Speaker 1: way down to the Titanic door, like this small little.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't ever let go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You never want to let go.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: But I will tell you, though, I stood there calculating
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  Speaker 2: how much the woman.
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  Speaker 4: actually paid like the actual wholesale cost.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I was like, there was some, there was some
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  Speaker 2: things on there that there are some things on there
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  Speaker 2: that make you go, Oh, okay. But they're, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're throughout, but then there's also like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: grapes just cheat, you know? So I'm like looking at
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  Speaker 2: it and I'm like, man, I guess it's labor intensive.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give her that. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because I felt like she probably could have got away
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  Speaker 2: with everything on there for like under $ 200 and it
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  Speaker 2: was probably like $ 450 or something like that. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: $ 450 charcuterie board? It was like four feet. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: had like 35 people.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, yeah. If it feeds 35, dude, I'll fucking
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  Speaker 1: get one of those every, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But then like not, we had so much food, not
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  Speaker 2: everyone ate it. And then I have like so much
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  Speaker 2: excess charcuterie. And then I feel guilty because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I have to eat this. I can't piss away money
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  Speaker 2: like this. So I was eating charcuterie for like six,
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  Speaker 2: seven days past the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. Just having olives and pecans and just what? Yeah,
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: but you know what it is?
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Eleven pistachios. They always have like seven or eight things. Yeah,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: there's unidentified things all the time. I got to like
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  Speaker 2: Google photo it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this? I don't even know if
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  Speaker 4: it's cheese. Is it cream?
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  Speaker 2: There's nuts I've never seen on there before.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it gets very vague towards the end. Sometimes there'll
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: be like a hoof meat. There will be something called
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood sausage.
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  Speaker 4: They give you a legend, like a key.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, you got to try it.
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  Speaker 4: That's a neighborhood sausage.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so much more depressing eating it the week
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  Speaker 2: after because it's bagged in sandwich bags in the fridge.
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  Speaker 2: And so now I'm just pulling out different bags of
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: unidentified meats and tasting it. The sodium levels that week
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  Speaker 2: were probably through the roof, really. I retained a lot
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  Speaker 2: of water that week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's another big issue, I think, is
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  Speaker 1: one of the side effects of charcuterie boards is gout, probably,
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  Speaker 1: and severe salt retention. My buddy's daddy, if he had
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: too much salt, he couldn't talk.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I miss you, man.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. So he'd get his fucking dad, like, his
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: dad would be drunk, and he'd get a bunch of fucking, like...
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: He'd keep giving him potato chips and shit in his pocket.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: If he knew he was going to steal the car
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  Speaker 2: that night, the day before he'd be like, give his
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  Speaker 2: dad just a, like a family, like a Costco bag
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  Speaker 2: of Ruffles. Yeah, the dad's just going to be dark.
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  Speaker 2: He wouldn't chew them out when he got home. He
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  Speaker 2: would just look at them like furrowed.
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  Speaker 1: With my jaw unlocked. You ever have gout? No, I
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  Speaker 1: never had. My stepdad had it. I think it's basically
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  Speaker 1: salt builds up like in the bends of your body, huh?
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  Speaker 4: I self-diagnosed gout.
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  Speaker 2: You just said you had it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just said it.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to will it. Thank you for admitting it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people will have fucking, like I had
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  Speaker 1: like a stepdad probably couldn't even move his arms or anything.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't have anything wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And meanwhile, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to hold it.
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  Speaker 4: Like Randy in a Christmas story in the snowsuit.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you look like that.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was getting these sharp pains.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Is that gout stuff? Yeah, let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Right there, right there. Oh, wow, I never even Googled gout,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where I had it. Gout happens when your rate, U-R-A-T-E.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good T-shirt, gout happens. Gout happens, yeah. I
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: didn't mean to cut you off.
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  Speaker 1: No, and that is definitely a market that as we age,
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  Speaker 1: we can get into, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Gout happens.
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  Speaker 1: Gout happens, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my stepdad would wear that every day.
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  Speaker 1: He'd wear the helmet. He's got it so bad, dude.
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  Speaker 1: He's a fucking... He shows up on the periodic table
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: at Elements. That dude has so much salt in him.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: That dude's fucking probably got iodine in him.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: That's not good. You ever talk to him about it?
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: We mentioned it.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: You should cut his sodium down, you know?
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: We mentioned it.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Anything you could do for him?
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: He's born free. He wears a shirt that says born
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: free all the time. So that's not the kind of
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: guy you can approach about their social media.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: I think born free essentially means gout habits.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: That's an interchangeable shirt.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: No, I had this shooting pain. In your foot?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Out of nowhere.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Out of nowhere.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: But I mean, like, your foot locks up and you can't, like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: you would have to, like, tiptoe and put your weight
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: on the other foot.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, right? And it would happen, like, could
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: happen for two minutes, could happen for, like, five minutes,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: ten minutes, and then it would just magically, like a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: trolley horse, would just go away. Oh, really?
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: And I didn't really know what it was.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I thought I kind of, I thought I broke my
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: toe or I had something wrong with the actual, like,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: infrastructure in there.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: And it would reoccur and go away and reoccur.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I got to talk to my dad.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: So I went and I got x-rays. And they were like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: it's fine. There's nothing wrong with it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: You're full of shit.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: And I realized, God, because it's not just salt. I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: heard like, well, it is meat and stuff. So I
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: guess that is salt.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yep. Salt shrimp, I know, have it. Shit, that's the seafood.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Seafood is high in sodium. I didn't really, really know that.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: And I eat seafood thinking like, oh, it's lean. It's
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: good protein, you know. Yeah, it's the lean cuisine of
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the ocean kind of.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It is, right? And then I realized, I guess you
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: can have it. You can have flare-ups and it goes away.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Because I haven't now had, knock on wood, this is
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: going to suck because I know I'm going to bring
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: it back now by saying it. But I haven't really
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: had it in like a year and a year and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: a half. But there was times where I would get
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: it like every few days. And it would strike anywhere
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: at the most inopportune times.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, though. Prayers, anything you could do
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I love how you actually really just got empathy for
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: my gout.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, I watched my stepdad. He would have so much
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: flare-up or whatever.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: He couldn't even... My stepmom would go put a blanket
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: He couldn't even... Even an Afghan or whatever couldn't touch
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: his skin. It would fucking hurt him too much. Let's
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: give this information, though. Gout happens when urate, a substance
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: in your body, builds up and forms needle-shaped crystals... in
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: your joints. God.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I have needle-shaped crystals.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: This leads to pain, swelling, redness, and changes in the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: movement and use of the affected joint. However, not everyone
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: with high urate levels develop gout. Does gout just go away?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe look that up, how it comes and goes away. Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: The pain is like, you can't use the foot. You literally, like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: it's almost like you need a crutch, but you don't
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: have one. Because you never know when it's going to hit.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You need a short friend.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you need anything, really. Any kind of support at all.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Gout can go away or return again and again.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Dude, this is like one of those Robert Pattinson movies.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Some people will go months or even years without having
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: another gout attack or very rarely they may never have
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: another one yet. Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: It's like the mafia. Like you never know when it's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: lurking over your shoulder. Like it threatens you once and
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: then you just be like, you got to fall in line.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I have psoriasis, which is the same exact thing. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: got a lot of like, uh, like, like, uh, autoimmune
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: things that, that like threatened me. Then they go away,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: but they always, there's always a threat of them again.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's one thing I guess about growing up
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: is that that stuff starts to happen.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Your special is? Yeah, it's called Terrified. I shot at
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the Vic in Chicago back in December. This is my
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: first actual one on anything I recorded. I have some
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: television sets and this is not happening, this and that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: But most of my stuff, I just never put it
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: out there. So I finally had the time, the runway
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: to do it. So, like, it's a big deal for
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: me because, like, people, like, a lot of people aren't
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: educated that I am a stand-up, you know what I mean? Like,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: my fans are, but, like, just, you know, I want
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: to reach, like, you know, so it's like, this is
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a kind of, like, you know, hopefully it'll reach a
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: lot of people.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I remember, you and I got on a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: show together at a bookstore in New York, I remember,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I think when you were first starting to do comedy.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it's, well, now let's talk about proper stand-up,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: probably been about eight years or so now. Yeah, I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: actually just was so funny because I was like, I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: was talking to my lady that was coming here and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: we started talking about you. And I actually, I went
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and looked at, because we, it was like eight, nine
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: years ago, you visited, we went out together for Halloween, me,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: you and her. And I found a photo of us.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You did?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I found the photo of us and I was like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I went, it was that far back, but I had
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to go in like my... This is, you dress as
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: a newsie, and I was like a run DMC dude.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: You were a run DMC?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was a fun night, man. Dude, that was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: a fun night. I remember we just went to a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: couple of good bars.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were hopping around. Dude, that was nine years ago.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And then I found this one, which I was like,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I guess I forgot we did this, but we did
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a show together, me, you, and Adam Ray, at the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: House of Blues.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: In San Diego. Do you remember that, dude?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I showed up there with luggage for some reason, I remember.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I definitely remember that. And because I, yeah,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I just remember. Because sometimes you don't have luggage with you. Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Most of your life you don't have luggage, right?
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: No, not most of the days.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so when I have luggage, sometimes I remember it,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: especially if you're with luggage at a place that you
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have luggage. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It always feels so weird. Oh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: if you go to lunch or something, you have to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: go to the airport after you fucking walk into like a, um,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, uh, I'm trying to think of a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: good place. That's well, that place is closed down, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: even like a macaroni grill, like a semi nice place where,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and you got the luggage by your seat, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it's by your seat and people are like walking by and.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, especially in New York.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure if you go to a cafe, Because a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: luggage will take up probably 7% of a cafe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I would say so.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And then forget about it if you have
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a large. If I have you large, you probably just
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: got to eat in the park. You probably can't get
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it through the doorway.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you've done it. I mean, at that point, that's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: how homelessness starts. I think it's somebody that's... Somebody is
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: meeting somebody. They're on their last leg. They're headed out
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of town. And they're meeting somebody for lunch. Somebody's like, look,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'll buy you a meal. And... you realize your luggage
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: is too big to get into the cafe, and they're like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you gotta eat in the park.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I just got new luggage, so I'm feeling good about it. Yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: my old one, I was still using the cloth one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Like not a hard case. I like the cloth one
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: because it used to like zipper. Like the flat was
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: thin and the whole depth was one side. And I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was hesitant to get.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, you were using that style.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I was doing that with just the two wheels that
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: you had to lug like it was like a hand truck.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I respect the two wheels. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And I ended up getting that one because my shit
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: busted while I was at the airport. And then I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: had to run down and get luggage at the airport.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And I bought it and I was like, all right.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh man, it was like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like hard case too. So it got, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: wet and dry and wet and dry. But I liked
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that it was deep, you know?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I guess that's true. You have one side
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: is deep. You're not deciding what.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Side to put stuff on. It wasn't like a split,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know? And I resisted the hard case split for
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: so long. And then finally this luggage, I couldn't get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the handle up anymore. I still had it for like
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: three months with no handle, couldn't get the handle up.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I was, like, just reaching low and just pulling. Oh,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Really? I just, I don't know. I just, like, don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: have time.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And I was, like, you know what it is? I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: want to be a smart consumer.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: And I didn't have the time to do the research
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: on the new luggage. And so I just was, like,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. And then one day I
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: just was, like, I can't do this anymore.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: And I committed and I got the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: New hard, hard. Sounds like a guy, like, trying to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: get out of a marriage.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay with this baby just to. Just
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a few, just so I know that I really like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I found somebody else. And now I do the split
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: hard top.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: And you know what? I was afraid for nothing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: It's got four wheels. It glides effortlessly.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Oh. It's impermeable to liquids.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And it's not really that bad because I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, what if I need something that is
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: like tall in a split?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be able to do it because
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: one side zips.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So it's not like you can combine both sides really.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: But luckily, I haven't run into that problem. I'm happy
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: to say that. I'm happy to announce it here.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Damn, thanks, man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. So you are your hard case luggage guy now? Yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm hard case luggage guy now. Wow.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: The best part of it, though, is the effortless gliding.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah. I used to be like, it was like
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears when I was with the old one. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Not to diminish the trail.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Get out of here, engine.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: People would yell that at you. You're like, hold on, guy.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: This guy is just, he likes what he likes. He
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: knows that style of luggage. Wow, that was almost archaic,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like, though, to see somebody who would still
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just have the one thin layer side that you couldn't
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: put anything in, maybe some pockets, but that was it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like for tissues. The first thin flap was,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you couldn't do anything with it, really. But have you
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: seen someone walk with, Like, you remember when we were little?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It was just a suitcase with a handle. And if
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you were lucky, there was these little ball wheels on
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the bottom of, like, a traditional suitcase. And then they had, like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: this little, like, almost like a little handle that you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: could pull it with. But it had no control.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It was little ball wheels.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It had no, also, like, it wasn't weighted correctly. You remember,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: they were, like, just big. So back in the day,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: people had to, like, literally carry their luggage in both
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: hands and, like, walk with it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: When I was little, that's the luggage my parents had.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And they call it luggage. I guess that was the original.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: They were lugging it around.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: That's got to be it, right? That's why they call
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: it that, right?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It would have to be, I think.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: My mother still carries a bag like that from her childhood, basically.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: She jacked.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: She could probably hit you pretty quickly without you being
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: really prepared for it, unless you grew up with her.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You came to Oh You had timing Your mom was
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like Mike Tyson In Mike Tyson's punch out Like you
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: can get All the way up to him And then
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you were just screwed Oh yeah You make one mistake
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: with him You're done Yeah It's one hit and you're
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: done Oh yeah remember that Yeah 007 3735963 That's the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: code It was? Yeah I have it tattooed in my
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: brain I made a t-shirt of it My own t-shirt
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Get out dude Your mom was like Tyson Did you
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: ever beat him? Mike Tyson On Nintendo? Yeah, we beat him.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody, yeah, I remember like, yeah, we had one
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: neighbor that was like real liberal and was like, don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: beat him because he's black, you know? And I was like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's like, this is a video game.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: They missed the point in there. Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: They didn't want to shoot the ducks in duck hunts.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't want to rock the boat.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I'm like, look, we paid $ 44 for
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this game on my seventh birthday so we could rock
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the fucking boat, dude. You know, this is one place
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I can take a swing at a tough brother in
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the safety of my own home.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, when he would come out.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: What sucks is if you got all the way up
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: to him.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I guess they gave you the code once you got
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: up to him.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But I used to try and play it straight through.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: You know, I got to that point where I could
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: play it straight through.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: It was one of my games. What do you mean
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: play it straight through?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Like I would start at Glass Joe.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: And go until I beat Tyson, just without, like, in
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: one session.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, in one sitting, really? Yeah, one sitting, yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it didn't take that long, a couple hours.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I had all the time in the world.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: When I was 12.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, remember how much time you had?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember how much time you had, dude? People are like,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: what are you doing today? You're like, what are you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: even talking about? I don't even know what I'm going
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to do today. I have no idea what's going to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: happen today.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Summer vacation from school felt like years.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Kids can't imagine.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Imagine. Or anybody. Imagine now you're out of school. You
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: go home. There's a TV.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: That's it, really.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And it's playing, like, Little House on the Prairie. And
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: then straight into Wheel of Fortune. That's exactly right. Or
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: straight into Price is Right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Well, Little House, Price is Right was 11 a.m. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: then Little House was where I was. It was actually,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't Little House.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Prime time, though?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Or am I thinking of Highway to Heaven?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Highway to Heaven.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And we're huge fans here, both of those.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael Landon's staying all the way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Michael Landon.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a video of his hometown the other day,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and his childhood home and stuff is pretty cool.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Of Michael Landon's?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Someone sent you a video of Michael Landon's childhood home
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: just recently?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just sent me, like, this is where he lived at,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: this is the bench he used to spend time on,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and just, like, just some, like, police pieces from his neighborhood. Um...
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Where is he from?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Connecticut? I have no clue, dude.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I want to talk more about this special, man. Forest Hills,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: New York. Now, this sounds nice.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Have you been here?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: No.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Is that Queens?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I've been to Queens, of course.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Is that Queens? Forest Hills? Yeah, go back to it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Landon was born Eugene Maurice Orowitz. October 31st, Halloween. No way.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: That's when we hung out.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: We're still in the neighborhood of Queens, New York. His
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: fathers were Peggy.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It's beautiful there, dude. Wow.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: It looks like you're in old Europe or something.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: It's all these old, like, there's an old section of it. Yeah. Ooh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It looks like you're in, like, a cottage. Like, it
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: looks like you're in the foothills of Switzerland at some
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: of the places in Queens.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, this was some of the footage that
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: somebody had sent me.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And now this is apropos of nothing they sent you,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the Michael Landon treats?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: People know I'm a fan.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah. Oh, all right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I'm a known fan.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Of that kind of programming or him specifically?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Him specifically, I think. Just like, you know, it was just.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: He was good, wholesome, fun. He was the fatherhood. Yeah,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he was. He was kind of that father, that television father.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: When I started podcasting, an online store was probably the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: furthest thing from my mind. You know, I was just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: concerned with getting the episodes out. Eventually, we put a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: t-shirt online and we started selling it. Then that evolved
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and people wanted more. Next thing you know, we were
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: selling a t-shirt and a dang sweatshirt and a high
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: heel even at one point, I think. That's where we
• 29:33
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  Speaker 2: It's nice.
• 29:47
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• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to have a couple of items, whatever stage you're at,
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• 31:50
  Speaker 1: something for yourself or something for father's day a little
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: bit more about the special man so yeah like what
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: has that been like for you like the comedy road
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like did you start to really feel like okay this
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: is what kind of comedians go through because you also
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: got into comedy where people already knew you um did
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: was that scary like oh they're gonna judge me or
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: did it feel more like they're gonna support me like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: um yeah i.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Know what you mean Uh, well, I did stand up
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: like 20 years ago, like out of college, I did
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: it for a little bit. And then I started getting
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: into sketch comedy and like improv and stuff. And then
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that's how I really got into comedy. Cause I started
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: to get a little successful with the sketch stuff. This
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: is like 2000, you know, 99, I started that. And then, um,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and then I got on the show and I was like, well,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the only thing I ever really wanted to do was
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: do standup, but it just, I didn't get to go
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: down that path. And then I was like, you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: if I don't do it now, I mean, I'm not,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I have to start doing it now. I have a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: platform now, you know? But I was like, I was
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: very into this, like I was into the stand-up world
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit because I used to host, I owned
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a bar and I used to host like comedy on Tuesdays.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And this is 2008, 9, 10, 11, 12. And so
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: every comic, every New York comic played in my bar.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: And so I became friends with everyone like years before
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I like started going hard at it in New York.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: And so everybody was like, I was friends with everybody.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: And also like I just went at it really, really hard.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Like I was.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't half-ass anything. It's what I do and it's
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. But I understand it's a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: thing like, okay, people know me from television. Am I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: backdooring it? Am I going to have an act? But
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: if you're out there every single night, I mean, I'm
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: playing bars with three people in it to this, to that,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: to the next thing, five, six spots a night for years.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And then it's like, if you respect it. Luckily, everybody
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: was really cool with me And, uh.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Would you feel like personally, that's a little bit more
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of what I mean? Like, I think you seem like
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: an authentic enough guy where like you would, um, Be
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: realistic about what you were really doing. You know, if
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you're just trying to create a fun show, that was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like a, like a joker show, like, you know, we're
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: just like, bring a lot of that to stage. Or
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: if you were trying to, you know, like really rock
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in a standup and really go through it, you know?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And I know that for years you were, um, performing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, was there anything for you in your own head,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: like do I need to prove to myself?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Was it some of that a little bit, you think? Yeah, man,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: but that's the motivator. Because I tour with the guys.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I've been touring with the guys for 13 years. Well,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: we toured back in 2000, but now since the show,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: we've been touring for 13 years. We're in our fifth.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: We do United States every market and then UK every market.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: This is our fifth one in 12 years. So, and,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you know, our story was, like, you know, we started
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: really small. We started playing literally when we started. Like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: nobody wanted to really invest in us.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: You know, like, even our agents, they, like, were like, oh, yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: you can do live stuff, you know? And we started in, like, literally, like,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: C rooms, you know? Like, really, like, hole-in-the-wall places. But
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it got better, and then, you know, a few years
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: went to theater, and then we started, you know, playing big, big,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: big places. And then, but it's different. It's not stand-up,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's like a multimedia show. It's for our fans. We
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: tell stories.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: It's interactive. It's geared toward the fans.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love being there. I mean, so many
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of my first fans were fans that came over from
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you guys. Oh, no, really?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I mean... Is that just because of you?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I think from going on the cruise that we went on,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and then some of the fans would come to my shows.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Jokers had some of the most loyal fans.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: By far.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That is really true.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: By far. I mean, it's like the Bible and then Jokers,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: No, but they're good like that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: If we vouch for someone, it's like they will attach themselves.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Because they're not really stand-up fans. They're fans of the show.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're fans of comedy and everything. But they find
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of people through us.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: So it's like when we tell them.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, this person, they're so happy to have someone to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: seek out and to become a fan of.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like more like human fans kind of.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Human fans.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Like just like usually just pretty fun loving people. You
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: guys have had some of the best fans I feel like.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And they're just so like–
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: they're so invested and they're so loyal. We're only on
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the air this long because of that kind of– I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, that kind of dedication they have to it,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: that loyalty.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Like we just signed– season 10 just finished airing and–
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't announce this yet, but we signed
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: for season 11 and 12, so I'm shooting season 11 now.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: And I can't even believe it, really, because it's like
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: 300 episodes. We've been doing it since 2011. I didn't
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: think that shit. But it's because of them.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: It's really it. It's because of them.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And if someone is in our orbit of the show's orbit,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: that's how much they love us. They're cool to be
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a fan of what we're a fan of. You know
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: what I mean? That kind of thing, by extension.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they want to carry, yeah, they, and also
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they trust your acumen or whatever, like, yeah, whatever you
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: think is on your charcuterie board of humor. Right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: They, like, want to get it. They're like, oh, I'll.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you're my fig jam, babe.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, try some fig jam right here.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You're my fig jam, babe. That's another good shirt. We're
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: going to make a lot of shirts today.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Let's see how many pieces of merch we can come
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: up with by the time this episode ends. Right now
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: we got two.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got two.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: We got gout.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Gout happens in your motherfucking jam. Yeah. All right.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: But I want to branch out. It can't just be t-shirts.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do some like.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll get into socks.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what. Maybe laptop covers or something
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like that. Ooh, yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Maybe like a wind chime.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: You got to get... That's the secret with merch. You
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: have great merch. You got to throw in something like
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: people don't normally get.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Really? I think so. Yeah, that's... I think I just
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: didn't want to end up having like all kind of like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I got like hats for disabled people or
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I got like, you know, children's vests.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Not that there's not a lot of children's vests.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: You know, you're like, what is going on, you know?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you should do one.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Or cinnamon, like, oh, Theo's got a cinnamon. Do you
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: have anything like that? I'm surprised you don't. You don't
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: have like a rub or.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Something like that? You don't? Dude, come on. You're the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: southern king, man. You've got to get yourself a rub
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Bro, I've got a rub, dude.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to use it near school. I'll tell
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you that, brother. I did a peanut butter for charity.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: No way. Yeah. Well, our podcast.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So I do Hey Babe with Chris DiStefano and Taste
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Buds with Joe DeRosa. And together we're on this No
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Press Network. It's on YouTube or whatever. And so I
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: just had this peanut butter that I love. Saratoga Peanut
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Butter Company was this family owned, like woman owned business
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and she used to be from Staten Island where I'm
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: from and I found her at a Christmas market, not
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: even her, I just found a stand and I was
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: loving it, loving it, loving it and I would mention
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it and like, you know, to support and then they
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: reached out and like we combined and made like a
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: peanut butter for charity.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I did that once. Ooh, Saratoga Peanut Butter Company.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You can put in like the no pressure, I bet
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you it'll come up because it was cool that we're
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: on the label and stuff. It's like fun, you know? Oh,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that would be really cool.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I never thought about some of that, I guess.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Pickles, one time.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Pickles, we did. I don't know. I just worry, I guess,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: about trying to sell. To me, there's something that gets
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: weird if I feel like I'm trying to sell people.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Too many things oh for sure I didn't sell that
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that was just the money went to charity and that
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: was I was just oh I see what you're saying
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: yeah I didn't make my own yeah of course of
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: course man Q I was on a so Q my
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: buddy you know he made cucumbers no that would be
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: good he owned a beer company he started it he
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: bought the rights to and revived a beer company from
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Staten Island from like 100 years ago that went defunct.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he was so passionate about it. He doesn't
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: have any more, but it was years he had it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: And to mess with me on the show, he made,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: there was one time on the show where they renamed
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: me Prince Herb.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And I had to go by Prince Herb in my
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: whole life for like a year. Like late night TV,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: the news, any press, going up on stage, please welcome
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Prince Herb. They pierced my ears. They made me wear
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: these big cubic zirconia earrings. It was very embarrassing. So
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I was known as Prince Herb. And so, I mean,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: everything I did. Like I would go to Starbucks and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: get like a lot of things. They'd be like, Prince Herb?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And he made a Prince Herb brew. And it was-
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Was that you in a picture? If you pull up
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Prince Herb, that's all me. Oh, yeah, that's Prince Herb.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: They put billboard in Times Square. That's a billboard of
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: me with the earrings.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the New Year's Eve billboard. That's the huge
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: one in Times Square. Yeah, that's the size of the building.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: You have gout in your cheeks, dude.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: That is huge.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Dude, it was like 65.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: What are you looking at?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: The t-shirt, the Prince Herbert 2024. No, if you put
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in Prince Herbert. Who is that?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's another thing. I'll get to that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: That's me. Who the fuck? Oh, that's you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: That's me. That's the worst picture I ever took, 2003.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I had the flu and I was 60 pounds overweight.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And I gave them the picture to put on Jokers
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: because we help each other out. We didn't want to
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: do something like, here, take this bad.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Picture of me.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: And they kept using it for like six, seven seasons, right?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, this joke is getting old.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And then just when I thought it was getting old,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it became a meme, dude.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Like the crying Michael Jordan face. Not that like it's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that big, but I'm saying like that, like people just
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: started using it. I don't even understand why. Dude, it
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: got so big that college campuses across the country. I
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: go to college shows now. Everybody in the audience has
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that face on a shirt or.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: They put it on.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: They put it on quilts and they put it on
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: like these blankets and they hang them in the dorms. Dude,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: at their graduation, my fat head's on the cap and everything.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And I never made a dollar from that. Someone made
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: so many millions of dollars.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I can't tell you the amount of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: merch that that thing is on. Who is that?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: That's me, dude.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: That's me. I look like Andre the Giant, bro. Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it's just a bad angle or a bad day. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: was in Santa Monica. I was at lunch with Q.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: He took the picture. I mean, that one's blown up.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Someone widened it. But it wasn't good. I understand the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: one with the glowing orbs come out of his eyes
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: has been edited.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I ask the kids when I go to the colleges.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: They hold them up on the blankets.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: They get this.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: They spend real money. Oh, yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: They get it blown up. And I'm like, what is this?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: And they just like. Quiltery is very costly.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know much about it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: But I didn't think college kids could do quiltery, can
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: afford quiltery.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Look at this. Oh my God, Sal, I didn't know
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you had all this happen to you.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when it first happened, I didn't know what
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: it meant. Because it looked like the guy died.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's part of it. Everybody, when they
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: look at that guy, they're like, oh yeah, I remember him.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He used to gamble.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I look like the whale.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the movie, but I look like I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: locked myself in my house and I didn't come out
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: for a while.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You look like the whale if he rapped, I feel like.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: That's the element that's also, there's a very Brooklyn or
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: very like, there's a run DMC kind of a little
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: bit with this.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I don't see run DMC in just my big, peach, fat, bald,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: circle head, but if you say it, I'll take it
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: because anything to make me feel better about this photo.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, there is a hasn't run in a while DMC.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Has not run.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a has not run.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Thank you for the in a while.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But it's one of those pictures you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: see if you notice you go to, and I hate
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to say this out loud, but a F-U-N-E-R-A-L.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: And one of the pictures that's on there.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Why do you want to say funeral?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Because people pronounce it differently, and it means something bad. Well,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: if you say funeral, it helps soften the blow. That's
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a good call.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, say we're at a crazy funeral. Somebody hands you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a pamphlet, and you see a fixture on it. Sure.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It looks like that guy. A lot of times. Like, damn, R.I.P.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just say a frere. Just say a frere for me.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: R.I.P.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Ricky. Too soon. Like a lot of that kind of stuff. Yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that's what it looks like. It definitely looks like that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: But I didn't know what they meant. Someone texted me
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and was like, I got to tell you something. Are
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you sitting down?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: That's what they said.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I said, what's up? They go, you've become a meme.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And I was like, what does that, what do you
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: mean I've become a meme? I know what a meme is,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: but what do you mean I've become a meme? And
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: they're like, the picture of you that you hate that
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: was on like, because I was like, this is not
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: funny anymore. You did it till it's not funny. They
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: used it for like seven seasons.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: And then it happened.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: And then, dude, for like one year, if I posted something,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: if I, my DMs were, I couldn't get to regular messages.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I couldn't see, if you DM me, I couldn't see it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: If I put something online, 800 of that face right
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: underneath in the comments. And it was like, I thought
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it was funny at first, but then it was like,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: it's just not funny. I gotta talk to, I gotta,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I have to communicate. I gotta use the internet.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time I post, I can't just get that
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: head in, you know, it's like, so I don't even
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: know where we're going.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, but anyway, the Prince herb, it was a non-alcoholic
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: hot pink beer. And it said a corny, a corny
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: beer for a corny mofo. If you put Prince herb brew,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you'll see the can. Now this is a funny story. Uh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you'll see the can with me on it. It's a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: hot pink. It's a hot pink can. like Prince Herb,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: there it is on the left there. Oh, wow. That's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a real future-looking can of beer.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: That's cute, plugging it right there.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it said, like, a corny brew for a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: corny mofo.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Now, here's the thing. This is the funniest thing ever.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: It was unintentional.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But he shipped so many of those things, right? It
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: was hot pink, and it was non-alcoholic. And he shipped
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: so many of them. And what we did, he wanted
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: to get it done in time for that punishment where
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: they pierced my ears, put them on the elbow. So
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: it was all part of the same punishment.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: So I didn't know he was doing this.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: After they brought me out to Times Square, they told
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: me I was going to become Prince Herb.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: And I didn't know what they meant. And then they said,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: turn around.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: And I saw on the billboard. And then they took
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: me inside, pierced my ears. For the whole season, I
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: had to wear these big cubic zirconia earrings. Oh, I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: didn't see this.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And then that came up. And they told me about
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: that in the moment. So I guess in the haste
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to produce the beer, make a recipe of a hot
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: pink non-alcoholic IPA, something was wrong in the measurements of
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: the recipe. And he shipped out, I want to say,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, hundreds and hundreds of cases.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Hundreds of cases.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: And he got word back that they were exploding. And
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: what happened was, if they were not refrigerated and only,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: they had to stay cold and that's it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Once they were cold, they had to stay cold.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: And if you took them out of the refrigerator, they exploded, bro.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean like they leaked. They exploded, bro.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Which is actually, in full circle, it's the funniest thing
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard of in my life. Because it's like
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: he didn't intend that. But people started reaching out, being like, yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it's exploding all over my house, my fridge, everything. Because
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: you could also leave it out to them, put it
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: in the fridge, and it exploded in the fridge. But
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: these things were popping like grenades. My cat's wet, my kid's, yeah. Dude,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: so they were expanding.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And so you see the metal in the bottle just
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: start to expand until the things pop like grenades. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: it happened to everybody. Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And he had to give all the money, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: back or whatever. I think it was the charity involved too.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And then I got a case of my own as
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: just like, here, you have it? And I didn't know
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: and I put them in the fridge right away. And then,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: so then I had like two cases. I had 48
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of those in my fridge. And when I realized that
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: they were going to start exploding, I was like, I can't,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I need room in the fridge.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: It's my main fridge.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And so my lady's like, we got to get these
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: out of here. And I was like, but I don't
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: know how to get them out because they're going to
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: start exploding. And so, we took out, I left two
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: in there. Now, right now there's only one in my
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: fridge and it's, it's, it's expanded because, but I put
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: it back in time. So it's, it's like the top
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: is like, it's almost like a point and it's ready
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to explode if it loses like five degrees, but it's
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: in the, it's in like the.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: The crisper. Oh yeah. But we took, yeah, it's a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: safe drawer. Yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to keep, you know, so, but we took
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: every one of them out and I put them in
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the sink in my, I put them in the sink
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in my kitchen and I just put a blanket over it. Dude,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: it was like, it was like, Sarajevo in there, dude.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: After like 30, after like 20, 30 minutes, it was like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And dude, it was, I mean, and then part of it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Don't call it a comeback.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Dude, it was exploding. It was hot, pink, sticky beer
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: all over my kitchen. I mean, and it was scary actually.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: It was scary.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholic. But I would try to like pop them
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: open to preempt the blast.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And so I would go and I would like, but
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: then you'd pop them open and they would just still explode.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I got to send you a picture of the one
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: in my fridge. It's like, it's just two degrees away.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I know it's going to happen, but like, I just,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I'm keeping it for like the, like the, What do
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: you call it?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You like a gender reveal? No, like just a keepsake.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: That would be really funny. You know what it sounds
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: like these would have been great for? Is gender, gay gender,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: like gender reveals if your cousin was gay or your
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: brother's gay. Like, hey, mom and dad, we got an
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: announcement to make.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: You suck. an out, like a coming out. Or yeah,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: like an out. Coming out reveal, which I guess is redundant.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Sexual reveal.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or preferences reveal or something. Yeah, yeah. You'd be like,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: mom and dad, we want you to know something. You
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: just set one in front of them. And everybody's waiting
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a couple minutes. It's like a Trojan horse. Really? And
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: you're like, Danny's gay.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: And they're like, no shit. We fucking, we knew he
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: was gay. And now you fucking ruined your mom's new wallpaper.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, dude. But it's just so funny to
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: think that they were exploding all across American people's homes.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Unintentionally. Oh, yeah, but beautiful. There's something so special about
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that type of thing, sitting in your chair at home, right?
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: You're relaxing. You're cute, right? You've made a lot of beer.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: You've got Prince Herb brew.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: It's on the ships heading out to different homes, and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: then you know it's starting to blow up, and you're like,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: all right, things are going poorly. You hear like, ba-doom,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like the email? Ba-doom, ba-doom, ba-doom.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: You've got malpractice.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: For real, though, for real, lucky nobody got hurt. Oh, fuck.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you, dude, I'm telling you, the sound
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: was like, you would go, yo, just that was one can.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I had 48 cans.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you. Baby angel, that is so heavy. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it is heavy when that kind of stuff is.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Going on when.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Um, there was a dangerous product that hits the scene.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I think is very scary. Um, kid rock. I know
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: made a beer.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And the first batch of it was good. It was
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: like bad-ass beer or something. It was called.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the second was called not bud light.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It was called straight beer. Even though the craziest part
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: is he drinks Bud Light every day.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: You get over things. It's like a bad breakup. Yeah,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: it really is.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Time will heal his Bud Light wounds.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. It did quickly. But badass.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: That was his beer.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Badass beer.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: American lager. And the second batch of it, they just
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: made it bad. Whoever made it, it was a bad beer.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Like they messed up the recipe or something.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, so it didn't taste good.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: It tasted horrible. It tasted badass. It tasted just ass.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: They had to just get like a Sharpie and like
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: blackout bad and they could sell it for whatever.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Then it wouldn't be like false advertising.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: People are like, what are you drinking? You're like, ass, man.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Disgusting. Somebody put ass in a can. Which is so
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: ironic because he didn't want to do Bud Light, but
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: then people are like, yo, I'm eating ass.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: I messed with ass.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, hold on. You can send me a
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: can of horrible ass, but you can't support a beverage
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: of some guy who maybe prefers a little.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Ass every day. Right, right, right. Like, what kind of
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: world are we living in?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: But the simple fact that he had his second run
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of the beer, he was all fired up, and then
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: it just was, the recipe was bad.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that, because he's a guy who
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: needs a break.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: You ever go to his like compound or whatever?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: It's nutty, right?
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I know you kind of know him probably, right?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Where was I with him? I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: went to one of his shows. He played in my
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: sister's town a couple of weeks ago in Louisiana. Okay.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: And so I got to fly over with him. He
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: has his own plane, so I got to go on
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: like a private plane. And then we flew over there
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and flew back late at night.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Is he a nice dude?
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Cool dude? He's a really sweet guy.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: It's not constant badass, right?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also... He's also just.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Is he normal?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: He's a unique individual.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: He's a really unique individual. But is everything badass? Like,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: if he eats a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, is it, like,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: in a badass way?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Like, what is he.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Like, when does that go away? Like, you ever with
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: him and he... Did you ever see him weep? Oh,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: never weep, I don't think. Yeah. Maybe....
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: No, he, like.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: He loves, like, Kid Rock is an interesting dude, man. He's, like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy, if you go do something
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: with him, he'll send you a card or a nice
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: picture of, like, something y'all did together.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so sweet.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Something like that, right?
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: You're like that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe I am.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: You are like that. You are like that. I remember
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: when you did the cruise, actually, you sent me a
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: gift after.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I did?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It was the sweetest thing. No one's ever done that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Thanks, dude.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: It was so nice. Sometimes I think I got so
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: busy that I just didn't even know who I am sometimes.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: But then Bob also would be the, but then Kid
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Rock will also be the kind of guy where if
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you're in a car, like one night we were in
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: a car, we were leaving.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, you call him Bob?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I call him Bob.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I was about to ask you, like, what do you
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: call him? Yeah, his real name's Bob. Yeah, I know that,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but I didn't know if you could call him. Oh, yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: so I call him Bob, right? Or somehow, it just depends,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: But you ever call him Kid?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I call him fucking.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Retard half the time.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: And we can beep that out, but people know what
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it is, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, oh, he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the only guy I've ever been with in a car. Really?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And everybody's just chatting and having a good time.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: That's wild, bro. The only guy you've ever been with
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: in a car.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Kid Ron. Yeah, it just was the craziest Uber. It's
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: like Uber Black and then Uber fucking Dirt Lord. You know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and he.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Comes and gets you. Yeah.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But he was in the car one time. He's like, Hey,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: can we turn down the radio so we can talk
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: about me? That's what he said. So he has this
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: other element of like.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Um, like a Kanye West thing.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, it's just a cocky thing. Right. So,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and he, he, he'll be like both of those things,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: but he's tongue in cheek about it. Cocky, but he's,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: you can't tell a little bit sometimes. All right. All right.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: You can't tell a little bit.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Um, But a nice guy. I think if I
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: needed something, he would be willing to help out. Like
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: what level of needing something? Like if I needed to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: borrow $ 20, 000 or something. Really?
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's pretty good.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's also the kind of guy, like if
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I called him, I needed something, he would answer. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: think he's helpful. He likes to help you think about stuff.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: He's been through a lot. Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Have you gotten to see his White House replica?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Has he shown you that? Have you been over there
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to his White House? No.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: It's like the capital of the South.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I think I was, for some reason or another, maybe
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: there was an event going on at his compound or something,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and there was an opportunity for me to go.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I've never met the guy, but I didn't end up going.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: But I thought Tyler Perry had the White House replica.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe he does. Yeah, what does Bob have? That's
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what Bob has. Go down one picture.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Wait, is that a replica that you can walk into
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: or a replica like a snow globe replica?
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: That's a replica you can walk into. The picture to
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the right is his home. Wait, the White House is
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: his home?
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Wait, he lives in a replica of the White House?
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: If that's the White House. I can't, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the White House looks like, but that's.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It looks like that, I think. Oh, then that's that.
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  Speaker 2: But wait, but Tyler Perry has a, I think he
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. A state. In Atlanta.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: It's like a huge statewide, like it's like 308, whatever
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  Speaker 1: Well it's like people are like hey does media like
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  Speaker 1: media The fact that somebody rebuilt a White House somewhere else. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And is using it to shoot.
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  Speaker 4: It's wild. It's media and it's dunking.
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  Speaker 2: So a sweet thing that my girl always talks about is,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: one time we hung out in the city or whatever,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: and then a couple weeks later or whatever, you left
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: me a message that I played for her that she
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: didn't forget. And this is a long time ago. But
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you were like, hey, you guys, I wanted to give
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: you a call to see how you were doing. You
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: were in my heart today, is what you said. I'll
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: never forget that line. You said, you guys were in
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: my heart today, and I just figured I'd give you
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: a call to see how you're doing. Oh, nice. I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: played that for her. She already loved you, but she
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: was like, she never forgot that. It was just such
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: a gentle, sweet thing to call to see how we're doing,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: just in a general sense. But then to say it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: like that, it was like, thanks, man.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: I love you, buddy. You have such a big heart.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, dude.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I just have a tough time remembering
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes that I'm a decent guy. Is that true? Yeah. Why?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I think I just have a tough time.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think I have a forgetter.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I just have this forgetter inside of me. You can
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: stray from what you know yourself to be? You just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: kind of have ebbs and flows about how you feel
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: about yourself? No, just like a reminder. It's like I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: almost feel like I'll forget. that people know that I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: care about them, right? I feel like it's this constant
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: thing you have to remind people about or they don't
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: know it. It's like I didn't understand that if you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: care about somebody, then they will just know that you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: care about them and that sometimes it's okay to kind
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: of show it or express it, but it doesn't have
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: to be something that you have to remind people of
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. and I don't know what that was.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's gotten a little bit better as I've
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: gotten older, but I think, yeah, I think for a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: while I just didn't know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Like I would, you felt the need to be expressive.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Like you actually, it would be on your mind to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: make sure you would have to express it.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Because then you thought that they wouldn't know people wouldn't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: feel it from.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: You or something. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Like as if your feelings weren't real to people or something.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like if I seem like I had a nice time,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they knew it or not. Okay.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And so I need to make sure that they knew
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: that I had a nice time. Or if I was
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: thinking about somebody, I needed to, I guess, let them
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: know maybe, or if a time meant something to me.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And some of that's kind of normal,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: but I think I had this... I don't know. I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: can't explain it exactly.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I am that way, but I'm that way, like,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: not because I need people to know, but because I just.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Not need or want them, well, I want them to know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: you know, like, but not that they, not because I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: think that they don't know if I don't tell them,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: but that's the way I grew up with my family
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: and just how I am. Like I, uh, I'd never
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: want to miss a chance to tell someone, uh, you know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: anything that I, that, that I'm thinking about them, that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I admire them, that I love them, that like, you know, any, any.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Little thing I, I, I'm just, I don't hold anything
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: back like that.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: It's the best.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: It helps me too, because I like, I, It makes
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: me feel good to tell somebody that I love them
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: or that I care for them or that I'm thinking
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: of them or I admire them or anything nice. When
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I greet people and when I say goodbye or anything,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just the way I am. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: don't think I could be another way, really. Yeah, you
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: couldn't be. You are trapped being a nice guy.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying. I feel that from you.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Just get like, I just am self-tormented a lot of times.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, you always seem like the Yeah, you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: seem like just like a little campfire that's allowed to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: be inside of people's homes, you know?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Is that the first time you ever said that?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: You just conjured that metaphor up?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm digging it.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I know you're good with words, man. I know that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: you are the person that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: You're the person I know the most that will say
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: a phrase that I've never heard before. I mean, off
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: the top of your head, man. I mean, you're one
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: of my genius friends. You have a way with words.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: But that's such a good... That's merch.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: That's merch.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: You're a campfire that's allowed indoors.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Well, no.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Now you switch it. You're a campfire that's allowed indoors.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: It seems like a rule. I think it's like you're
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: a campfire in people's homes was the sentiment.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: It's two different things, you know.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: We'll have to go back and see exactly what we said,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: but you're a warm soul, man. Yeah. We need those.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: You are. That's a great... That's what you are. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Dude, when I was a kid, I didn't... I remember.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I used to write postcards all the time to my
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: kids that weren't born yet because I wanted them to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: know that I was thinking about them. That's kind of crazy.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: That's unreal, man.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I think when I was a kid, I didn't know
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: if my parents were thinking about me or whatever. And
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: so I always grew up with this uncertainty about it,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I think. And so I don't.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Even remember this. My roommate.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: from when I was like 20, was like, dude, you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: got these postcards, you used to send them to yourself.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Send them to your kids. You'd put like unborn kids
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: or something on it.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: You'd put postage.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I'd send them, I'd.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Put them in the mail. They'd be from like other
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: places I was doing comedy at or something.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Really? And he goes, and you would just say like,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: hey kids, I haven't, I didn't meet your mother in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: this city or whatever.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Like just saying what's up. I've wrote, I've written, I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: did that one time for, you know, I did that once.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And wrote something to your future children? Yes, I did. Wow.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, one time.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But, like, yeah, I did that. Did you really do that? Yeah,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I swear to God.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's awesome, man.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: It was crazy also, like, because I remember my roommate
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: would be like, uh... Do you have them?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I think I probably have... Because aren't you going to...
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: He sent me, like, nine or ten of them.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Because then when you have a kid... I'll give them
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: But was it, like, you were just, like, jokey? Like,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to meet your mother here.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Or was it like, hey, one day... when I am
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: a dad or when I am your, I hope to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: do like, it was, it was it like, what was
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the angle?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes I'd put in a little joke, you know,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: but it was like, Hey, unborn, unborn, um, children.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Um, but it was for you being silly.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: No, I was being serious. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I didn't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: realize at the time, like now I'm a, I, I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: have a better understanding of like how, um, the exchange of, um, like, uh,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: emotions i guess a little bit more than it yeah
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: at the time i just didn't know i think i
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: i think it went from when i was a kid
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: i didn't know if my parents were thinking of me
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever and so i was like i want to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: make sure my kids know i'm thinking of them that's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: heavy but then i'd be like yeah sometimes it'd be
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: fun i'd put something funny on there like i didn't
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: meet your mother or i hope i didn't meet your
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: mother in this town yeah you gotta throw a little
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: it's got heart and humor.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah sometimes yeah we put some funny stuff in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: there yeah you just reminded me of this uh when
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I was younger, like one of my first girlfriends that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I like was serious with as a kid, like my
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: first love.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Kind of thing, that kind of thing.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Um, it ended. So I thought like I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: was going to marry her. Like it was like, we,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you know, we dated for years as.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Kids, you know, like 15, 16 to like 2021.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: No way. Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: And so I really thought I was going to marry her.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Like our families were close. And, uh, I, I, we,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: we said we were gonna, and I wanted to and stuff.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: It didn't end well, but, but, uh, But so I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: did this thing. I wrote her a letter. The first
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: time I knew that I was in love with her,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: it was not that far into our relationship. Let's say
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: a year, maybe a year or whatever. And we ended
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: up dating like five, six years. And I wrote her
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: a letter to propose to her, to tell her I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to marry her and how I felt about her
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: and to be like, I feel this way now. And
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I know one day this is going to happen, but
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that I've been
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: feeling it from right now. And then I mailed it
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: to myself and it was postmarked and it was sealed.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Wow. And so I was like, when I proposed to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: her one day.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going to start with that. I'm going to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: give her the letter and let her open it. And
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the postmark date on it from all
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: the way back then. Oh, that's romantic. I don't know
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: why or how I thought of that, but I did
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and I did it. And I didn't propose. I did
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: the letter and everything. And like, you know, five years
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: later we broke up or whatever. And, you know, I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: would call it was on her. Let's just, you know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: whatever I was on. He is probably on me.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: No, I was on her. Like it was, you know, whatever, whatever. Right.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: We broke up. God bless, you know, but I, you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: we're kids. But, but I, I remember too, because it
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my God, dude, it was the worst timing.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: It was like a little bit after like Christmas, I think,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: or her birthday. And I had gotten, now dude, this is,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: this is, Oh, God. This was the 90s.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: It was like the.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Would you get a jet ski or something?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: No. That would be great. A jet ski? I was like, no,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I was like 20. No, it was like the 90s.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: It must have been like 96, 97, maybe something like that, right?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Rent.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Rent was the huge Broadway musical. It was like, do
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: you know Rent? Remember Rent?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: And you were dating a woman? No, not even who
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the Broadway musical was.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're from New York.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I forget about this.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. I've been going to plays and music. No,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: but that's a thing.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Rent, yes.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: They have everything from like the Lion King. You got
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the golden ticket. Yeah, that's exactly the right one.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: And, you know, like now, like how it's like, who's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the hot ticket of the president?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, Hamilton.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It was like that. Yeah. Right then.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: And I spent $ 300. And she wanted to see this thing.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: And I spent, back then, do you know, I was 19, 20, whatever, $ 300.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: If you were just for inflation now, it's like.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: It's one-tenth of your salary. Yeah, it was like $ 20, 000, $ 30, 000. Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe more.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: And I got these things, and I surprised her with them.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: And it was that night. And I called her on
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: the phone, and I said to her, I got these tickets,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: the rent tickets, you know, whatever. Like I got these,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: like it's something she wanted to see for so long.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: It felt like it was like unattainable because it was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: so expensive. Oh yeah. Wow. And I got, I remember
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, I told her I was going to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: surprise her with something. And so I got ready. I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: like had on a button down shirt. Like I got
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: like all nice because I was going to pick her
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: up and drive there and go see rent. And so
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: I got all ready and I called her and I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: told her I was going to pick her up. And
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: then I told her, I was like, you know, we're
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: going to, I got tickets to see rent. And this
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: wasn't the only time this happened because it was like
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: rocky toward the end, like broke up, got back, broke up.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: But she broke up with me on the phone. No.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Like a few hours before rent. And I was like,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I was devastated, dude. Right?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: This is worse than the gout, dude. And this was
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: like the gout in my body, whole body, like a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: gout heart.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I had gout heart. Merch.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: That's a subsection of the gout merch. There's going to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: be a gout tab.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: If you have gout in your heart, dude, you are dead.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Dude, my heart needed crutches, right? And I'm bawling crying.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I'm bawling crying. And what borough were you in?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: I was in Staten Island.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank God.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: So rent is now at 8 o'clock.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: It's like 3.30.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: And I was like.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: I spent my life savings on these tickets. So, dude,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I got in my old beat-up car, all dressed up,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: and I drove to the theater crying. I paid to park.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I was laughing about something else.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, please.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I know you would never laugh at this. but you
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: know when you cry so hard that you look like
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: you got punched in the face dude like my eyes
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: were like I look like the photo of me that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: became a meme like I wasn't that heavy but my
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: face just blew up like I was when you cry
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: so hard that it looks like you got straight up
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: punched in the eyes that's how I got out of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: the car and my goal was not to see Rent
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it I've never seen it I was
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: too I'll tell you and I never saw Sleepers in
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Seattle because She ended up going on a date with
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: a guy who took her to see Sleepless in Seattle,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: and it broke my heart, and so I never saw
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: it to this day. I mean, a Nora Ephron classic.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks, you would think I would see it. I still,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: to this day, now I would see it. Now it
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't bother me, but I just, I kind of like
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: think it's fun that I haven't.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, how do I, so then
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta scalp these, because I couldn't
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: eat the tickets, and I wasn't gonna go sitting there
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: next to a blank, next to an empty seat and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: cry through Rent. So I'm standing outside, I'm like 19
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: years old, My face is puffed out. I still have,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I'm crying there. I'm crying, trying to scalp. I had
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: two rent tickets in my hand. I was in a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: black button down shirt. I was crying and people were
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: going into rent. And I was like, excuse me. And
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. Those scalpers, I give them
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: respect because people don't even want to, they don't give
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: you the time of day. I was a young kid.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I was dressed respectfully. I'm right in front. I got
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: two tickets in hand. I'm not going to kill you.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to run.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: They.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: It was like Crip Tonight.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Is that something? Sick person.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Crip Tonight.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: They were all Superman. Yeah.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm crying, which also probably in hindsight looked really weird. Like,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: here's a young boy crying.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, right in front. Outside a red.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: And just saying, I'll give them to you for 280
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: instead of 300. Like, I don't even know if that
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: was a deal or not.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Dude, it was so sad.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: And then what I ended up doing was after... it
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: was like everyone rejected me and it was like almost
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: going to begin. And I was like, now I'm like,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do if I lost that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: kind of money. You know, like I was like, it
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: would have been so sad. So I went to the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: box office and I pleaded with them. And I just said,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: my girl, I said everything. I was talking to the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: box office lady.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: She was like 80.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: I was like telling her my life story. I'm like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: she broke up over the phone.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm keeping this a secret.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: And she goes, all right, here's what I'll do. I'm
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: not supposed to do this. She's like, but the next
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: people that walk up to buy tickets, because it was
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: sold out, she's like, I'll refer them to you, whatever.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: And these two women walked up, and she referred them
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what I got for them. It
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't full price. But I was able to unload those.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Did you feel any better after you sold them? No. No,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: not at all. I didn't see rent. I took a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: hit on the money, and she was still gone. And
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: where'd you park?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I parked, you know, in that area, there's a lot
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: of parking garages nearby. So I wasn't too far, but
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: they get you. They get you. That's what I was saying.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: They get you. You go to a Broadway show, it's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: like maybe a four hours total. It's like $ 80 nowadays.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: That's rent.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: That's rent. Yeah. They charge you rent. Yeah, they do.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: So anyway, so after she broke up with me, I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: told her.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: About the letter.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: About the letter.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I would do that kind of stuff. Right.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: To show how romantic I am?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: It wasn't spiteful or anything.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, but you don't understand. From five years ago,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I thought, I can't believe this. And I guess she was,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember her exact, I think she was moved
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: by it. She must have been moved by it. I
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: have to really think on it. Because I know I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: told her, but I can't call it the moment. It's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: been so long since I spoke about this. But check
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: this out.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: About I call it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Three, two, three years later, I was in the workforce now.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: I was out of college.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: So was she.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: And I was, I used to work at Prudential Securities
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: and I was at a desk, right? I had like a,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: at a college, you know, and I got an email
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: from her and she said, can you give me a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: call or whatever at her office? So I called her
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and she goes, hey, listen, I just want you to
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: know Um, there was this, there was this site called,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I think it was called Daily Candy.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: I guess it was like a daily blog or whatever.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it was about.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: She said, and, uh, they were, uh, doing a contest, um, where, uh,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: you submit, submit the most, if you, if you're married,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: submit your engagement story and the most romantic would win.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: And she goes, and so I submitted what you did
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: for me. Uh, she didn't send my letter in, but
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: she told the whole story. But as we, as if
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: we got married, cause you had to be the married person. So,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: you know, so she said, I, I said that I
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: am married and this is what my, what, you know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: what my, how my husband proposed and she won the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: contest and they gave her a $ 5, 000 shopping spree. And
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: she called me up and said, do you want to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: split it? Do you want to do some of the
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: shopping spree with me? And I was like, no, I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: don't want to do half the shopping spree. I wasn't
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: like I was still mad, but I was still hurt.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: You know what it was? I was more like, that's
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: fucked up, actually. You didn't experience this. We didn't experience it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to. We didn't.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: We didn't, and now you're profiting off of it.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: It's a lie, dude.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, you just lied. I mean, wouldn't you
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: not want to do that? Because you broke up with me.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: So why use that story? And she won, wouldn't you know?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Because of your work. Yeah, and I was like, no,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: you take it. But in my head, I was like,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's kind of messed up that you submitted that,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: at least for me to hear it. It hurts a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: little bit. But that's a letter I wrote to the future.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. You were romantic. You were romantic, Sal.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I was a very... Salvatore. How can you not be
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: romantic with that name? Salvatore. God, it's romantic. Is y'all's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: family full Italian? Half. Yeah?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad is Italian. My mom is Puerto Rican
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: and Cuban.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah. I don't know if you want to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: add this in there, but it looks like you spent
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: about the equivalent of $ 720 in 2024. Yeah, maybe just
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: pull that chart up. You adjusted?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Let's adjust the value of the rent tickets and your
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: love at the time.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: 1990?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: When was it, 90?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: It was 90.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to call it 96.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: $ 300, and then now $ 600. Yep. It's not chump change, man.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: And then how much was $ 5, 000? I guess double, right?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: It'd be $ 10, 000.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: The shopping spree she won? I mean, that's basically... going
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: to keep the same, right?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if it was two or three years later, yeah,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: pretty close. So we're double.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: We're basically 28 years later, we are double.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: And we doubled up.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I remember, like, I broke up with my girlfriend and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: then I tried to learn, like, she was, like, learning
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: French or something, so I tried to learn French in, like,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: three weeks or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: And, like, How did you do that? Rosetta Stone?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I got a book or something. It was like Merle's
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: French or something. And so I start learning, and my
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: parents are like, what are you doing? You're just learning
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: individual words?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: That's not teaching you syntax or anything, is it? It's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: not teaching you grammar.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Look, homie, I was crying in my backyard smoking Newports, okay?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. It's just like... Oui, oui.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Like, just like, I couldn't think of another French word,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: but like, you're like, baguette. You end up going to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: her and be like, I learned French.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: Like, baguette.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Napoleon.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: But definitely, I'm like, bonsoir. Like, how old were you? Like, 24.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: I love the idea, like, this will get her back.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I thought.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I just dropped some Pepe Le Pew on that ass.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I made up, like, this story about us going, like,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: sailing or something. I made this, like, little sailboat.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Like, dude, it was... The whole thing was... Wait, how
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: old are you? Uh, 10. You're 20 something?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: A story about you guys sailing.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Who knows, dude? I don't remember what happened, dude.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of different things going on in
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: the area at the time.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: But I do remember.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is so gay. G-A-Y.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say it.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: But it's actually gay dudes don't even do that kind
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: of shit. This is like kind of Shakespearean sadness. But
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: then I remember, dude, I hitchhiked. So I went to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: a sailing thing in Biloxi, Mississippi, right? And my ex-girlfriend
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: had moved up to Charleston, South Carolina. And when I'm there,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: there's some guys that are there who were from the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: sailing team of College of Charleston. So I told my
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: friend who I went there with, I was like, these
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: guys said.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: They'll give me a ride to Charleston. I'm going to
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: roll with them, right? And she's like, what? And I
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: She's like, we're in Biloxi. She's like, it's like a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: 10-hour drive. I was like, I know, but I got to. Wait,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: so you hitched a ride to Biloxi via Charleston Sailors?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: I hitched a ride to Charleston from Biloxi. Oh, okay.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: So in Biloxi, I meet some people that are sailing
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: from Charleston. I hitch a ride back to Charleston with
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: these guys that I met.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: You're like the mom in Home Alone, like driving with
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: John Candy in the polka dot.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: You're like, I gotta get there.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: I gotta see my son.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Bro, I end up, we pull up there like 1 a.m.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: probably into Charleston. I end up, I knew her, my ex-girlfriend.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: This is, I think, a crime, but I knew where
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: she lived. I go to her place. I'm on the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: porch of her home petting somebody's cat out there. And
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: thank God a floodlight came on and kind of like.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: knocked me into my senses. I wasn't going to go
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: inside or anything. I was just like seeing where she lived.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, she doesn't know you were there?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, you didn't announce yourself?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: It was 1 a.m. But we... Then you made a U-turn?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: You saw her the next day?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I went back to those guys' place and crashed on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: their couch for a couple days and then she and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I finally met up like a week later. She did
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: not want to see me.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, but your intention was to see her and you
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: saw her.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I saw her a week later. So you posted up.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: At the time I was just, I guess I was just.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: You posted up in Charleston for like.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I ended up staying there for like six months. So
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: then we kind of fell out of each other.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: And then I had, yeah.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: Then you just left in Charleston?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a great time. Loved it there. Did
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: you really though?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I stayed there for a year.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Are you like a nomad?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: You roam from place to place in search of food
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: and water? I could have at the time.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: And then once podcasting started, I had to be in
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: a place that had to be more substantial. But this, but.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: You know, but before that, my math is off. One's podcasting.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, but you, you pre podcast, you felt like you could,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: you could, wherever you set your bags down.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I was a little, never do that.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: No, I'm the opposite, man. I wish I could.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I wish I could. I go on vacation. Yeah. That's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: I can't, I can't, I can't, uh, I don't know, man,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: I'm so rooted and.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: It's something I'm working on in therapy. I, I, I, I,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: I have attachments. I have a, you know, I, don't
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: know I don't like change and I have attachments and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: stuff and I just can't pick up and leave like
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: that I can't relocate I feel like anchored to where
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm from I.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Don't know if it's a good thing you know I don't.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Know if it's a bad thing though yeah you know
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: to know yeah it's like because you have so much
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: joy and love there's something you can go to another
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: place and I don't know and also at the time
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I was younger it was easier to do that kind of.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Stuff yeah yeah that's true for sure do you remember
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: your first girlfriend like a kid like I guess not
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: a kid oh yeah But, yeah, my first real girlfriend
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't that until that, until 15. But I remember, like,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: being a little kid. I remember I used to live
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: in this, like, these garden apartments, right? And so, like,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, from, like, grammar school, that kind of age.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: So I was little, like, from, like, zero to, you know, whatever, like, 10.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: And it was in its own complex. So all the
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: kids from all the buildings, we all grew up together.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: And we were there young enough so that we were
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: allowed to be– because all the buildings, like, were surrounded–
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: like a courtyard parking lot pool, like in the middle.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: And so like our parents were like, you can hang
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: out anywhere in, in the, in the property out of
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: the property, which was kind of cool because we had more, um,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: autonomy than we should have at that age.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Cause you were kind of caged in. Right. But, but then,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of cool, but yeah, but we all
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: grew up together there and, um, I must've been, I'll
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: call it like, like fifth grade maybe.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: And, uh, It was summer.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And we had a pool area there for the residents, right?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: And I remember it was just one of those summers
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: where we were talking about before how when you were
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: a kid, time went so slow, which I want to
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: touch on that because I have a theory about that.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Because if you took away your phone and your internet
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: and your car, you know what I'm saying, and you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: didn't have a job, and then you just had this
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: fine time in the day, you basically reduce yourself to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: the options you had then I think that we could
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: slow time in a way.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Time is, it only gets faster and faster. It's burning
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: for me right now. But like, you know, get up
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: at eight, go outside, come back in at six.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: You know, and then see how long the days feel.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: And I've been having such a hard time with how
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: fast I think life is going right now, especially because
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: I hit an age where like I'm, for the first
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: time I see my, I look older.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: That's the first time it registered with me. You don't,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: you feel it until you feel it and then it's
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: too late.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: And then my, my parents, you know, I see them,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: you know? And so like for me right now, I'm
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: going through that and like, really like I'm having that
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: like existential thing going on. And so I've been given
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: this thought and I was like, why did time feel
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: so slow back then?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: And I, you know, I thought to it, I was, I,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: I like daydreaming, but I'm like, I'm literally like, I
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: want to just do a thing where I like just
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: go stop working, you know? And then just like, don't, don't,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: don't use the internet. And I just want to like
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: get up and go out and just, Spend my days
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: like I was if I was a kid.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: Like, try that for like.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: A month and just see if it feels like everything
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: just slows down.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: And what that does to my psyche and my day
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: to day. And, you know, I really want to like.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's I mean, I really do feel like
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: it was like I remember just being like you came
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: back at six o'clock. I felt like you went on
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: a pilgrimage and that was daily.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: And you really are much more in touch with yourself.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: You know, and you're really spending this quality time with
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: these kids all day long.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: And it's just like, I don't know, man. It just
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, things had more value then for sure because you
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: did them. You experienced them. Now we consume so many
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: experiences and just have less of them, I think.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And to the point that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Everything's on to that. I mean, it's just buzz, buzz.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: But next thing, next thing. I recall this out there.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just nonstop, you know?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, the times where you would sit, I remember just
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: laying in my bed, just, like, thinking about a girl
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: or something that didn't even exist. Thinking.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just laying there thinking.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, who's thinking?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Name 30 people that are thinking. Right. Right now. Yeah.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: There's probably not.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, nobody.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone is, really.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody is reacting. Just sitting down thinking. Yeah. I daydream
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: about just getting, I just want to move to the country. Like,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: not even like a, like, for the remote part, I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: want a porch. And I'm going to sit on the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: porch all day long and think. That's what I want
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: to do. I swear to God, dude, I've come this
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: close to almost doing that and just leaving this life,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: this career life. Or just at least going six months on,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: six months off. You really think you could? I don't know,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: but I'm romanticizing it right now. I grew up in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: this city and I have six jobs.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: It's a hustle. If you hustle, you have to hustle.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't know, like I'm just so
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: tired of like, even when I do allow myself, like,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: all right, the afternoon, like the morning, I'm not going
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: to look at my phone. Or like if I, let's
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: say I go away on vacation, you know, if I do,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: and it's like three or four days, I'm like, I
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: want to stay off the grid. I have this anxiety
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: of all the things that people are waiting on answers
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: for that are piling up. That's what might be important.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Or like God forbid someone needs my help or like,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever. And that when I get back, I
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: think about the hole I'm gonna have to dig out
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: that because it's piling up and I can't even enjoy
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: the off the grit days because I'm like I'm gonna
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: get slaughtered if I don't at least mitigate it a
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: little while I'm on vacation when I come back I
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: can't dig out of it dude I don't know how
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: you are but right now look how many text messages
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: I have unanswered right now oh my gosh that's insane
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: look at the missed calls Oh, my God.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: I can't live like this.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Who are you, dude?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: You got that, too, right?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: You can't possibly.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: I just changed my number, dude. I know, because I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: was texting you.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, shit, Theo ain't getting back
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: to me. The other day, here's the worst part. Some
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: kid the other day sends a thing. I guess he
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: got my phone number, right? Okay. So he's like some
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: guy from Berlin or somewhere, some other country, maybe Africa.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: He gets my number. He's like, I got a burner
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: phone for three weeks. It must be Theo Vaughn's phone number.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: He's like, so far I've talked to MGK and Jordan Peterson,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: that's what he said. Because people were texting him.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Texting him, he just thought it was still me.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: No shit, dude. I just forgot to, I literally told
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: probably 15 people closest in my life, and then I
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to shut my life down, bro.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't handle anything anymore.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: I so understand, dude.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, I will tell you, though, because when
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: I went to text you last, I like, you know,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: whenever it was, like a couple months ago or whatever,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: what it was there was the last time I texted you.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: And I guess in the interim you had, and I
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: was looked at it and it was a voice note
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, and I just, I, I,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I played, it was a while back, but I played
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: it and it was like this voice note.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: I left you.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: That was like, kind of like, um, it was like, uh,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: He never probably even got it. Never
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's all right.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worst part. The world knows I left.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I left it.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: I left that message.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: So now you know.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some kid in Berlin is probably decoding it right now. No,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: but what did I say? Oh, no.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: So I lived in this compound, right?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: So that summer, everybody had crushes and was getting girlfriends
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Like all my friends. Pressure suddenly. Yeah, like.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: And it's that young kind of like Sandlot kind of thing,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: kind of.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? And you'd hear like,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Samantha likes Randy. First of all, I didn't know who
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Samantha was. Right.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know who fucking Randy was.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: And when I found out, I can tell you right now,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Randy didn't deserve Samantha. I deserve Samantha.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But even if I didn't
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: even know who they were, if I just heard that sentence,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Samantha likes Randy, I was like, oh, my God, dude.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: We got to get somebody to like us.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: You felt left out. Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Dude, I felt so left out. And so I was,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I got to the point where I went up to the,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: went up in the, and it was midday.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: The pool's open all day.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: It's midday.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: And I just felt like I was trying, I was like, midday, midday.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: I went up and I was, I was like sad.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: And my mom was like, what's the matter? And I'm like,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: what grade I was in? Yeah, it was probably about
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth. And I actually was like, everybody's got girlfriends.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: Like nobody likes me. I was like crying and stuff.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't know.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: And she's like, what's the matter? I'm like, no, everybody
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: has a girlfriend. I don't have a girlfriend or whatever.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget what my mom did.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: She's so sweet. I got a reminder of this. I
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: don't know if she even knows this or remembers this.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: So I was crying. So she comforted me and she's like,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: you can, you can get a girlfriend too. You just
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: didn't meet the, you know, the right girl yet or whatever.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, but he, I was naming her.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Like Matt has a girlfriend. Jason has a girlfriend. And
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they're out there. Like, and nobody likes me.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you can get a girlfriend. She's like,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: we're going to get you a girlfriend. So she makes
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: me put on like a nice outfit. Right then in
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: the middle of the day in the summer.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: That day.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: I remember what I put on. I put on these
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: dark gray jeans.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Capizio.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: There's a leather, black leather shoes that Michael Jackson used
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: to wear.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Capizios? I think they were called Capizios.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Bring them up.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: Bring them up.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: And I got those because I was obsessed with Michael Jackson.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: So I had Capizios. These were like special date, like
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: Easter shoes.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: So I put on my Easter Capizios. I put on
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: like dark gray. And I put on this mock white
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: cream turtleneck.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Kind of shirt.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this gets worse, huh?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: But also better.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And then I put jewelry on. Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: And so I didn't really have jewelry. And so my
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: mom gave me a gold chain of hers. And I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: put on my mom's gold chain. And she's like, you're
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: going to go out. You're going to dress up. So
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I put on this outfit.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: I put on a gold chain.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: She sprays me with her perfume because.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't have cologne.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: She's like, a little cologne. And she's like, look, it's
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: like cologne. And she's like, put on whatever she had.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: I guess I was wearing like Chanel or whatever the hell.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what it was. And she gave
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: me five bucks.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: And she's like, when the ice cream man comes, you
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: just go up to a girl that you like, ask
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: if you want to buy her ice cream or whatever
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: like that. And my mom sent me out. And I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: went out with like women's cologne. My mom's chained $ 5
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: and Capizios. And I was like just circling the pool area.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Like looking for a girlfriend. Oh. Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's so romantic. And that's how you ended up
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: being a pimp, basically.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's basically how I ended up being a pimp, yeah.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: Gosh, dude, that's so romantic.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: I ended up buying five girls five ice creams, and
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: then they were in my stable after that.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: I whip them with the chicken. No, it's pretty sad
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: now that I think about it.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so beautiful about it.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: What a sweet thing.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: The mom was beautiful.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Great choice. Yeah, you're right, it is beautiful.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: But I really felt sad then. That was like the
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: foreshadowing of like the feeling I had with the rent.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was, I don't know, my best friend
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: got all the girls when we were like kids or whatever.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: So I'd always be like running the notes for him
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and that sort of guy, you know.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: But you got, but you were popular with the ladies.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: I started getting dates probably later in high school. Yeah.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I got a girlfriend pretty quick. Yeah. But
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: then I always kind of felt.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: You always kind of feel a certain way, though. I
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: was kind of too sentimental, I think, at times and shit.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But you don't think, like, women didn't,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: girls didn't, like, respond to your, you have a gentle
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: way about you.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Nope. No. They weren't into that, really. They were, like,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: a tougher guy, you know. It was just, like, young,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: southern kind of, you know. There wasn't a lot of, like,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: you know, there was, like, the drama, you know. There was, like, yeah,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: it was just, You know, it wasn't bad, but it
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: just wasn't like.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when I was younger, they locked
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: me in this room with this girl. She had a
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: chipped tooth pretty badly.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she had that Lloyd Chris a little bit.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad. That's bad.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: It's a lot for a kid.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: That's bad.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: I chipped my tooth on a Miller High Life once,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: making a joke. I went to take a swig on
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: it for comedic effect, and I hit it, and I
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: chipped my tooth. I chipped like, I would call it
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: less than 5%.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: And I couldn't– that's the only thing I looked at
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: when I looked at my face for a decade after that.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: So a third?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Dude, I remember one time somebody came in the room.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: I think I was either jerking off or just pretending
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: I was jerking off, right?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: And I went like that and shit my own tooth.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: What room? Huh? What room? A room? A room in
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: your home or a room in like school? What do
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: you mean? No, no, no. A room in a home,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: my home or somebody else's home. Okay.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's fascinating if you felt comfortable enough to masturbate
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: in someone else's song. And I went like that, and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: then fucking, so now.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Were you chipped on your dick? Where did you chip
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: it on? It's just on my bottom tooth. I just like.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Your tooth chipped your own tooth? Yeah, I was so sick. Oh,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: my God.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: It's like a civil war in your mouth.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I was like. And I was just like.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Did you stay the course?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: No way, dude. I'm not crazy. You think I'm jerking
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: off with a chipped tooth?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: No, that would be crazy.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: It's just the fact that you were in someone else's house.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Like I'm some kind of homeless person? Hell no, dude.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: I only jerk myself off if I have a fucking...
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: You weren't good enough for yourself after you chipped it.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: No, I'm like, I ain't jerking off. I mean, you
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: do it feverishly then, yeah.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: This guy with a chipped tooth.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: You're a spirited masturbator then.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: You're chipping teeth.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I was like so shocked that somebody
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: had come in the room, you know?
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what happened, but I've chipped my
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: teeth a lot over the years.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. Well, the microphone, you hit those a lot. Oh,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: I hate that. And that'll bounce them. And people can
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: hear that, too, and they're all like, I'm eating chips.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't chipped, but I've done it, and every time
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: I hit it, I go, oh, no. And I feel
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: it right there, because I'm like, please, no. But wait,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: so what happened with the girl?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: It's the one-third.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. People locked us in a room and made
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: us kiss each other when we were kids. I don't
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: remember if we kissed or not. I think we did. People?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Like neighbors, other kids.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, other kids. Because I was going to say, this
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: is bordering on... something that sounds not good.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was all on the up and up. No,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: nothing like sexual, just like they, you know, you better
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: get in and kiss you little queers or whatever they
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: would call us.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: And then we had another family, this Protestant. But she
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: was a girl. Oh yeah, she was a girl. And
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: they still called you queers. And her brother.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Tough town.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just, and she had a short haircut. Okay. Okay.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: And you had a long one. Yeah.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: And people are like, now it's making sense.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Like you gay kids better get in there you know
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: but uh and then what else was there any good
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: love stories and everything we had a lady that would
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: always be drunk and her husband I think was gone
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: or missing or whatever and she would like be just
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: drinking and laying on her Corvette just like.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: This was an older lady like a Miss Robinson type.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: Of deal yeah trying to be like oh sexy out there.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah. You're like this vet. She would just be
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: saying that to nobody. We're like, what is this lady doing, dude?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: And she was like, I think kind of a tramp
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But then we had this other guy. He
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: was kind of like a homoerotic kid or whatever. And
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: he might have been like a young man, but he
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: would always like, it was unclear. We would do like
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: the Navy and his, they had like a big bathtub
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: and he would have us pretend like we're in the
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Navy or whatever and like swim around in his tub
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But he wouldn't do anything. He was just
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: like an older kid and he had like used hairspray
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: and stuff. So he was like, I think he didn't
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: know that if he was gay or not, but he
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: was gay, you know? And he would have us do
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: the Navy or whatever it is.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: How do you do the Navy?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: How do you do the Navy?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: You just swim until somebody yells and fucking throw something
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: at you. How many kids were in the tub?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Probably three kids. And were you clothed? I mean, it
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: was bumper to bumper in there. There's not a lot
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: of room in the tub, you know? I think we
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: had our underpants on.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: It was submarine. It was like a submarine.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It was like buds or whatever. I don't
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: know what that thing is that guys go through, but.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of just– Just some Navy action.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just kids being– yeah, just like when you're at
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: home during the– just like a lot of that summertime stuff.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Like what are we going to do all day? And
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: then other kids' parents are going to end up doing–
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: just being around like– the days would get so long
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: because then you'd have a friend that went to summer
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: camp and you didn't go to summer camp. So you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: would just be literally laying face down on the sofa
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: at home. Yeah.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: The TV's going, and you have nothing but just nothing.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: I remember we used to play, we called it Manhunt.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: You know what that is? I don't know, it sounds
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: like the Navy that I was in. Yeah, it was like.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: Outside, almost like tag, like teams of, whatever, it's just
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: five kids and five kids, right? And so basically one
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: team goes out and hides, and the other team does
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: their job to capture all of them. And there was
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: a home base, and there was where they locked you up.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: And so we would have the whole apartment complex locked up.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: And there was hills and grass. There was some things
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: in it. So we would go out and play manhunt
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: all day. And it was so intense that like, there
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: was a time where like we split up and used
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: to hide.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: I got so into it.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: I used to put like on camouflage and I used
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: to like burrow under bushes.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: We got that intense with it.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: You think that perfume would give you away?
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, there he is. I smell lilac.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: I remember one time I went under this bush up
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: on this little like hill, like, And, I mean, if
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: you could find a good spot, great. And you stayed there,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: and you would hear, like, you would hear, like, screaming
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: and running, like, you know, and you would, oh, he's
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: getting caught. And then you would have to come out,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: and if they were in the jail, you can, if
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: you got there and tagged them, you would free them again.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: But if you got caught, like, now it's high stakes, right?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Because if you, let's say three people, your friends are POWs, right?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: And now you've got to go get, now there's five
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: people still searching for only two of you. And now
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: they got people guarding the jail. So they're hunting you down,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: and now you got to get past that guy who's
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: already guarding it. And then once he yells, it's a swarm.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: So it was really like you had to get strategy
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: with it. So I would commit to it. So one
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: time I dug under. I went under a bush, dude,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: and I put dirt. And I was looking, and 20 minutes,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: 30 minutes, 40 minutes. The hour was easy. I'm talking like, dude,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm talking like, Two plus hours.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: And I stopped hearing everybody. And I was like, do
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: I come out?
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: This is a great spot. I swear to God, it
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: was getting dark out. And that's when I was like,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't hear anybody. It's getting dark. And so I
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: came out. It was like two, two and a half hours.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: I was under there. Who has the time to lay
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: in the dirt for two and a half hours just
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: to play a game? This is what I want to
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: go back to. But I came out and I start
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: looking for them. And I can't even find them doing it.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: And we lived in this apartment.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: And I lived on the second floor. My friend lived
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: on the first floor. And I said, I'm just going
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: to go home. And I start to go home. And
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: I hear people.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: I hear people.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: And they're all singing happy birthday. And it's coming from
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: the first floor of one of my best friend's house
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: that lives there.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: All the windows are open. I'm like, what the hell?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: And I look in.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in there for a birthday party. Just having a
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: birthday party. They're already at the cake. They're already at
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: the cake. And I was just in the dirt for
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: two and a half hours, just like hoping not to
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: get caught by, by these.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: And the crazy part was there was nobody to tell
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: that story to. It's just like, you get inside. It's like,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: do you want some cake? Guys like you usually like,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: all right, we're calling it. Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of bad intel.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: It was a different time.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: It was like, I mean, I had nothing. We used
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: to come home.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: One time, I moved in with my grandparents when I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: was around, just after fifth grade. And I moved in
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: with my grandparents, and then I moved away from those people.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: And they didn't live in the best neighborhood, so we
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: weren't really allowed to go outside.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: It was like a really bad neighborhood.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: You would hear gunshots and stuff. Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: Just in the summer, we didn't have air conditioning, so
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: we had all the windows open. And you'd just hear like, pop, pop, pop, pop.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: It was normal.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: But my grandparents lived there for like 50, 60 years.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: And so we lived downstairs from them for a bit
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: when we were trying to get our footing or whatever.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: And I had nobody. It was just me and my sister.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: So I'd get home from school, and I just would whatever.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: That's how I was beating Mike Tyson, one hand behind
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: my back. But I remember one time I was like,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll get a pet. So I used to, I
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: don't know if you had these fairies, county, like these
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: fairs or these festivals at your school?
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: You ever have those?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: They would like come like- Confetti eggs and stuff. We
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: would have different things. Like they would come like carny,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: like it would open up the, it was like a
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: Ferris wheel and like a little, like they would come
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: for like a few days, like a mini little, what
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: do you call them?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: Like not carnival, but like a, you know.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Like a fair. A fair. Yeah. We just had a
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: carny in here actually, which was pretty cool. But we, yeah,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: we had fairs too. Oh really? Yeah.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: I can never tell if you're joking. We had a
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: carny in here.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: We had a carny in here. How did you book
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: a carny? We had a carny in here, actually.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: How did you book one?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: We just searched for him. We searched for him. We
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: found a decent guy. But yeah, but they had fairs, too. Yeah,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. So we had these fairs.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: You had it come to your school? Yeah, they would
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: post up in the parking lot. And it was also
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: a way for the school to raise money, because it
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: would also be like casino night at the church.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: So it was like.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: But they had those games that I would come home
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: with like a stuffed animal, you know, whatever. And they
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: had this thing where you threw a ping pong ball,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: goldfish in these little, you know, there was like maybe
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: a grid, like 20 by 20 grid of these little
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: bowls with goldfish in them. And then it was like
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: 50 cents.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: You threw a ball.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: If a ping pong ball landed in the thing, they
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: bagged up the goldfish for you.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: And they gave it to you.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they shouldn't be doing that.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, people don't give goldfish any respect at all.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: Like they're just as good as nothing. Yeah.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: They're like ants.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: It's not fair. People eat them and throw them back up.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: But goldfish get a really bad, they're really born into
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: a bad life if you think about it.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: They don't have a memory. A lot of them are
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: used just to feed other fish.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: It's almost sex trafficked almost in a way.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: It's really bad.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: But no sex, yeah.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, and if you're a goldfish, I mean, I don't know, man.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: A goldfish is a terrible life. You get split from
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: your family. You don't even know who your family is.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: You don't know who your family is.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: You either live alone for your whole life or you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: get thrown in with people you don't want to be with.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: And then you usually die of an infection. Your eye
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: has a big freaking cotton ball on it or something
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: like that. And you die slow. Nobody knew how to
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: reverse a goldfish death when I was young. You got it,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: and then when it started to die, you're like, oh,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: there's the white stuff. A couple weeks now, he's got
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: a couple weeks. And then you'd still feed him, and
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: you'd just watch him with one flip. You'd stare at
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: this thing looking at you like, I have been dying
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: for two weeks. So as a matter of fact, I
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: would get them and bring them home and like, oh,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: this is going to be past the time. I have
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: something to take care of now. My mom never knew.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: I never got the setup. She never got me a tank,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: a filtration system. I didn't know you needed a filtration system.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: I did not know.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: Because when you threw the ball in the thing, there
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: was no filtration. And they just threw them in that water. Well,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: that water has to be cycled and filtered. Those are
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: all goners. And if the ping pong ball don't hit,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: they're dying anyway. It's like a kill shelter, basically, for fish.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: And so I would bring them home, and I would
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: put them in a salad bowl. I just fill up
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: tap water, throw them in a salad bowl.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is like the ocean.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Well, Italians think you can solve anything, but it's not.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Throw it in a salad bowl, dude. Dude, I was like,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: this is as big as, this is eight times bigger
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: than where he came from. He's like the Jeffersons, right?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: He's moving on up this thing. I'm in a big
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: salad bowl, right? And I would just, bread. It was
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: white bread. I would just put white bread in there.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: And I was like. Because I'm a kid. What are
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: you making, a sandwich?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, when we were a kid and we went fishing
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: at the lake, we would ball up Wonder Bread until
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: it became like a ball. Oh, yeah, a little nugget
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: and put it in for them. And then put it
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: on the hook, and we did it with Wonder Bread.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: So I would just feed it Wonder Bread. And, you know,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: it wasn't until way after that I realized, like, the
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: fish would eat, like, I would break it and throw
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: it in chunks, and it would suck it right in
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Shoot it right back out.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: You know, some of them wouldn't come back out, but
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: most of them would shoot back out. Yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: And I'd be like, I just was like, he's full.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: But I guess he just didn't want white bread.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think they can take it in.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: So I would, so they would always die.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: So I felt so bad.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: So then I realized one day, like, I was like,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: the fish store, because it was a fish store near
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: my cousin's house that we used to, it was on
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: the same square block. We weren't allowed to cross the street.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: So we can go to the fish store without crossing
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: the street. So one day I'm in there and I'm like, oh,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: there's these bubbles like I don't have that I gotta
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: get bubbles yeah so one time I went in and
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: I brought a fish home my mom wasn't home from
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: work yet and I was like I gotta I don't
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: want this fish to die and so I took a
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: straw yeah and I put I put it in the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: fish bowl in the salad bowl and I blew into
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: the salad bowl to keep the fish alive, I blew
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: bubbles for three hours until she got home at six o'clock.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Thing was dead that night. I'm blowing carbon dioxide directly
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: into the thing.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: I literally poisoned the fish.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going, and I named them Harry, and
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: I remember, because I named every fish and they all
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: died very quickly. And so here I am, three hours
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: blowing with a straw, and I just thought the bubbles
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: did it. So finally when I got older, I, uh, I,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: my niece won a fish and she brought it home. Well,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: maybe my little sister or my niece won a fish,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: brought it home. And was it beautiful? Was it big?
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: It was little, it was a little, right? But I
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm, I'm not, I was like, I'm not
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: letting this happen to this fish.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: I was, I was like.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: Right. This is going to be different. I was like 20, 20.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I was like probably a 23, 24. Who am I
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: if I continue to let this happen? Went right to
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: the store, bought the whole setup. I came home, rocks,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: like the Coral, fake coral. Yeah, a castle, a little
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: DMV in there.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: I had the treasure chest and a little DMV kind
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: of thing. A little perk dealer.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: I got all that. I had the whole neighborhood in there, right?
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: All the people in the neighborhood. But I had all
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: the accoutrement. And I got into it. You buy the rocks.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever had a fish, but
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: then you roll the rocks through a strainer because the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: dye has to come off a little bit.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: And you put them in there.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: I got so into this. I bought medicine.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: I bought all like, I would do the water, I
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: would test it, the pH, put all the, I would,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: what do you call it?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Condition the water.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: And I took this fish and I had it for
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: six or seven years. And the fish became like this big.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a thing, but I
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: would just feed the fish. I would put my hand
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: and the fish would eat out of my hand.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: That might be a thing.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: Want any of them to do, but it really felt
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: like we had something. If I put my hand there,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: he didn't jolt away. He would just go in my
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: hand and just stay there. You don't see a lot
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: of that. You don't see that now these days with
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: goldfish with people like that, right? Anyway, one day he died.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: I honestly think he was murdered.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not making a joke. I know it sounds.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: Like I am. I think maybe he got murdered out
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: of spite from somebody in my house.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: I think, or a friend.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: Because I had just cleaned the fish tank. He was
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: in perfect health. I just did a full fish tank cleaning.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: You did it like every three weeks. I mean, I
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: dumped it out. I put him in another bucket. You
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: have to do this whole thing. You put half of
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: the water in the bucket with him because you want
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: it to stay clean. Like the ecosystem, that water.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: It's like FEMA or whatever.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: I was basically like, I was basically like Red Cross.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: My cousin worked for FEMA for a while. They had
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: to do all that shit.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: He'd be fucking putting wet people in shoe boxes for
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: two hours while they fucking vacuumed out there. I was,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: I was fuming it up and, uh, and I put
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: it in, I tested everything. I mean, I hadn't done
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: it in seven years. Right. And it looked beautiful too.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: It flourished. Right.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: Then the next day, he was in the clean water,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: just dead. Not even a slow death, just dead. I
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: suspect foul play. But this fish moved with me to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: three different locations. So I'm in the third location that
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I've owned this fish in in seven years, and that's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: where he died. And it was a summer, and I
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: felt guilty. I didn't want to flush the fish. It
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: just felt disrespectful.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: Seven years.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: And the pipes, too. Are you in New York at
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: that time?
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to put the fish that I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: called my friend where people shit. Yeah, that's a good point, actually. Hey, fish,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: I love you. People just flush the goldfish when they don't.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: It's so disrespectful. They have no platform, no voice. Anyway,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to. You're right, they don't.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: They don't.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to bury it in
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: the yard. And it was a summer, and I just
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: didn't want to bury it because I felt like it
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: was going to stink. and decompose and stuff, maybe be
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: dug up by like a raccoon. And so I was like,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: I have to wait till cooler weather. And so I-
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Put it in the freezer?
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I did. Wow. Did I tell you this story? No.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: Because I told it before.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, what would somebody do? I put it
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: in tinfoil and I put it in my freezer.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, I kind of, half and half, half
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: was I forgot about it. And like maybe I missed
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: a cycle.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to remember because it's painful too.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: Sometimes your brain will hide- information. Yeah.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: Like I had to unhurst it in therapy or something.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: But one thing led to another and a few warm
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: seasons passed and I still hadn't, I still hadn't done it. And, um,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: and then it got to the point where I was like, I.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: Don't know.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: I just felt bad. I was like, whenever I, I
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: just felt bad. And then I moved.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: It could have been toxic shock syndrome or something. You know,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of animals, if they move too many times,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: they get really sick.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, not to worry about that with
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: him because he was dead. Oh, another thing was I
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: thought that they had only died when I, I was like,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: it's bad luck to name him. So I never, I
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: had this fish, seven years I didn't name him. Oh,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: that would kill anyone.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: I called him fish.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: It was fine. He didn't care.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: And I moved and I, and then I moved, I
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: took the stuff from my fridge and freezer with me.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: It's not like I'm going to throw stuff out.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: I took them.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: I moved again.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: So I moved from that house.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: What kind of compartment is he in? Are you keeping
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: him in a little bowl or a little, just a
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: little bag with water in it? It's a tinfoil.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: He's not in water. And so the place I had him.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: So you used to have like a couple grams of
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: a fish rolled up in tinfoil? It's like this big
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: of a fish. And it's in my freezer right now.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: He's in my freezer right now.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: It's like a sockeye, I guess.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: He's in my freezer right now.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: Is he really?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: It has been... Since he died, it has been.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: 2010.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: It's been about 12 years since he died.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: And I have.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: I moved into the house 2010 that he died in.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: And then when I moved to my next house.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: In 2015, he was already dead. So he died somewhere
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: between 2010 and 2012, 2013. The fish is frozen in
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: my freezer right this very, very second. Wow, still today? Today,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: 12 years I have a frozen fish in there. I've
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: told the story in my podcast and people started sending
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: me fish coffins, little fish coffins. And I was going
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: to actually have a funeral for him.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: Because I told him my pod years ago and so
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: people started sending him in.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: And we were going to do like a, Like a Patreon, like,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: funeral for him.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: And then, you know what? I ended up taking him.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: I hadn't done it, but we talked about it. So
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: I got him out of the... I used to film
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: it at my house. I got him out of the freezer,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: and I opened it. No way.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was scared. I did, yeah. He's still there.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: I put him back in, but I was scared.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: To do it.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: Did he have any.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: How did he look? It wasn't good, you know?
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: He was still whole. Yeah. But he was, I mean, very, very, very...
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: Light gold. Yeah.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: If there was even a, it was a gradient, it
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: was maybe like a 10% gold.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Zirconium maybe?
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, it was like whitish. It might
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: have been close to white, which is a hint of gold.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: And his eyes.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: It was like the cheapest high school ring you could get.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly right.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Like he turned. Local gold or whatever. They
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: would have like a term, they'd be like, oh yeah,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: special zone, like mountain gold or something.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just something they tried to sell you on.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that turn.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: And his eyes, they were like not there. He had
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: like the sockets, but the balls, they were kind of
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: not there. I don't know what happens to balls when
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: you freeze them over time if you're a goldfish. Well,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: I'll say this.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: We had a guy named Max Moore on, and he
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: runs the Cryonics Institute, which is where they freeze people
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: in Arizona.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: How was that conversation?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a scam or not. I
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: believe that in theory it's a, It's a good idea.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: I really wonder about that. I really do.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: But they keep bodies in these big vats of nitrogen,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: and they just keep them at really low temperatures in
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: the hopes that one day they'll be able to.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Walt Disney and Kolar Shumsky, right?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like start them back up. Yeah.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: That's wild, though.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: Would you do it?
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, some people are like, it's all the same.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: You're gone, you're gone.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Why not put it in there and see if the...
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: I've had this comment, because what do you want to
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: wake up to? Let's say in 300 years.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: They can bring you back, because it's like, you know,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: the technology's there. Yeah, like prize picks brings you back
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: or something for DraftKings.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: You know no one. You know nothing of that world.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you're just being, yeah, like, this draft
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: is brought to you by prize picks, and you're just
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: drafting you back into time. That's definitely going to be
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: what it's like. When you think about it in the future,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: you're going to be able to create your own player,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: like you can do on video games, but out of
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: DNA that's actually in labs, You're going to be able
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: to create your own player that will play in some
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: special gym universe somewhere and that will actually eventually go
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: onto the court and play. That's going to be a
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: real thing people can do.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: I have my DNA and sperm stored, yeah. And I
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: just did the 23andMe premium package. Really? I mailed it
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: out 10 days ago.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: It's like five to six weeks it comes out.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: I've always, dude, 20 years ago, I've always been like,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: I need to know as far back as I can go.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: I need to.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: Like, I just, it's so fascinating to me.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: I've asked to be on that show, like.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, History's.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, this is where you're from. There's two
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: of them.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: Like, one's a PBS version and one's like a, and
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: it's just like where you came from, whatever it's called.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: I've been asking them for years because they do.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: All the legwork.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: The black people one is always just Chicago. It's like
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: you're from Chicago. That's not fair.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 4: There's been some crazy ones though.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Like I've seen people go on there like celebrities and
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: then realize that they came from like really bad people.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that, dude. I've seen, dude, I got,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: I did my 23, I was like 40% Thousand Island dressing,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: You're on the Thousand Islands.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: That's a term? I don't know.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: That dressing went downhill, didn't it?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never liked it. Wow.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's doing too much. It's also a mystery to me.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: It's like kind of like orange, right? Yeah, it's like
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: an orangey, mayonnaise, it kind of feels mayonnaise. I don't
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: like a mayonnaise base. I don't like it.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: But you did do it, or no, you didn't do it?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: French dressing was big, remember?
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. You don't hear much about French dressing anymore.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Everything's a vinaigrette now. Yeah, it's a vinaigrette, it's ranch,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: or it's blue cheese. Ranch never lost. Blue cheese, yeah.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: I don't like ranch either.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: French was very scary to be a child, and they
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: would have French.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: No, no, thank you. It was orange, right? No, I don't... No,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: orange was Thousand Island. But there was a really fine
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: orange one.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: Wasn't French the.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: No, that was the Italian one was like the oil-based.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, there it is.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't fuck with French.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, French was very shocking. It doesn't look appealing.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big salad dressing guy. I'll do a
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: little red wine vinegar. I just stick to that. But
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: I'll eat some blue cheese. But what the hell is that?
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: Did you really do the 23andMe on that?
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So what did you, because I did this one
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: now where you could like find out You can go back, like,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: it says, like, I mean, hundreds of years. Like, they
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: tell you, like. Oh, really?
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: I read a review where the guy was like, I
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: found out that, like, my great, great, great, great. I'm
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: not joking. And I was like, he's like, I found out, like,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather died by
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: an arrow. That's the kind of detail he got.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know how.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: But I read it and I was like, hell yes,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: I want to know all of this. I can't wait
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: for the results to come back.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: I can't wait.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: I've done Ancestry. I know my breakdown. But I didn't
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: do it where it's like genetic testing. I did that, traits, predispositions, everything.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: Like if you're a night person, what stuff you should
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: eat and not eat. And then as much history of
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: your family tree as possible.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think you want to know all that?
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: I guess sometimes I like a mystery. I really do.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I've lived with a mystery. For 40-something years already.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 4: Now I want to know, you know what I mean?
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, I don't know. How
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: do you not, you don't really know your, you know yourself,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: but you got to know. I have a longing to
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: know exactly where I came from.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: Was it a big thing in y'all's house? Did y'all's
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: family was like, this is where you're from? Because that
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: is the thing that I feel like is very important
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: that should be in more homes probably is like, this
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: is who your grandfather was. And this is like where
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: our bloodline comes from. And this is what we've been through.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: should know that.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: We didn't do it at all. And I think that's
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: why I long for it. Like I only, I knew
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: one great grandparent when she died, she passed away at
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: 99 and I was still young. And then I had
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: a very great relationship with my four grandparents.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, very close.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: And I still have my, one of my grandmas and I,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: they all, I luckily I had them till a decent,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: decent age.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 4: So I was really, really tight.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I just wish I knew, you know, about,
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you blow your mind thinking about like, Even
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: just go back, like, it's crazy that we don't even
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: know our great-grandparents.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 4: Never mind just a few times removed, you know? Just
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: how about great, great, great?
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: No idea.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 2: And that shit's like, that's long enough ago to be like, oh,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: he was a, you know, He was a blacksmith.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: He lived there.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of times you just know, like, oh,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: my grandpa drove a van or whatever. You're like, what?
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? The guy lived.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: A whole life. Right.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: He created your dad.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: Right. And all you know is that he drove a van?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: He smoked hormones.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's all you know. He smoked unfiltered cigarettes. Yeah,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: the guy lived a, yeah.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: He had a chicken coop.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: That's really it, though, right?
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: That's it. Like, oh, yeah.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody likes to almost... Yeah, there's this mystery, whereas I
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: think a long time ago there used to be a
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: lot more probably familial lore that was passed down. And
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: now it's just like a lot of that's not present
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: in a lot of families. Like my dad, dude, I
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: remember my dad was like, she'd be like, I think
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: my dad liked to drink a pretty good bit. My
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: dad was born in, he was 70 when I was born,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: so he was an older guy.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 4: Remember you talked about that in your first special.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like Biden.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: I knew it, but I'm sorry.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: You know, in a lot of ways. But yeah, he
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: was like, he would, my dad would like drive us
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: to school or something.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: My dad's car, he always hit stuff with his car,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: so he always had like spare tires in his car,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: like in the backseat was stacked with fucking tires that
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: were blown out or ones that were still usable, dude.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: And so a lot of times you just get in
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: the backseat of his car, so you'd, like he'd take
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: me to school sometimes and I would get out in
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: all my clothes and skin. would be just covered in
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: like black tire marks, dude. Like I just wander into school, dude.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: Like just trying, like I'm a diversity hire.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 4: Like Pigpen from Peanuts.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm part of the diversity.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: Like a coal miner.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. Like a five-year-old coal miner.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, he just saw his like, you know,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: he just, so that was very bizarre.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: But did you know, so what did you know of
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 4: your grandfather then?
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Your paternal.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: I knew we had a step-grandpa that would smoke a
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: lot of cigarettes, you know. And he would wear his, like,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: he used to wear motorcycle goggles even when he was
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: just sitting on the porch for a long time.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: He wore like that.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: He had like that old school kind of motorcycle hat
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: with the goggles, you know. He just wore it on
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: the porch? And he'd sit on the porch. I think
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: he wanted people to know he was about to go
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: ride his motorcycle all the time.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: I want to know that guy, you know.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: And he wore like a onesie kind of like a,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: but a worker's onesie. Oh, like a, like a, like a, yeah,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: like a, like a, like a, like a. Dickies, like
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: a jumpsuit thing.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he worked at a factory and stuff like that.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, see, yeah. This is like, yeah, that's like a
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: salt of the, that's like, that's what I'm talking about.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to know that. Like, I don't know, man. I, I,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: you know, my grandparents all had like eight or nine siblings. Yeah.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 4: That's a bit, you know what I mean?
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: But what did your dad do? Did he do, what
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: did your dad kind of a neat guy? Do you
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: have any good, like cool memories about him?
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: When he was a kid.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: My dad? Yeah. Well, he's still with me, luckily. Yeah.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: Or even just, like, memories when you were a kid of, like,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: your dad. Like, what was your, like, my dad would
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: have these big shoes that we would put on sometimes,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: and that was pretty cool. My dad would put his shirt,
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: sometimes he would take his shirt off. He liked to drink,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: and he would have a couple drinks or whatever, and
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: then he would just take his shirt off and, like,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: button it up, like, in front of us, and he'd
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you got my shirt on, huh? And
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: he would say stuff like that, and then he would
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: just pass out on the couch. Sounds like a very
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: warm guy. Just the physicality that you become when you're talking.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you got a shirt on.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: Put a shirt on.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: He'd be like, you got my shirt on. That was
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: his like playing with.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: Us or whatever. The big game.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: Who wants to wear my shirt?
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: And you were just, your eyes were burning with like
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: brute and like old spice.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: You're like, you got my shirt on.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: And by the time you got the shirt off or whatever,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: he would just be like asleep on the couch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: He'd be like, this is good. My dad, you know, Like,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I, I'm lucky. I have a real good relationship.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: He's like my best friend, really.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, growing up is cool.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I, I got hit by a car with him. Uh, I,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: my body got not in a car accident. We were
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: playing Frisbee in a parking lot by my house. And, uh,
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: it was a gated, it was a gated parking lot.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: And it was like one of those posts. It was
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 2: like CW, not CW. What do you call those? Those
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: are those, um, veteran VW posts.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And, uh, it was like
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: a big parking lot and it was gated. And so VFW, VFW,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: it was like, yeah. And, um, and so we used
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: to play like stick ball and that thing and like
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: hockey and things like that. And so they, but, but
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: cause it was always closed when it wasn't an event,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: it was a big empty parking lot and it was
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: gated and it was pretty big for a kid. Like
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: it was like, you know, it was a good, like
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: I would call it, uh.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe about a hundred and maybe 25 feet long, something
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: like that or more, you know, and pretty wide.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: And, uh, he, in the buildings we lived in, it
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: was right in the front of them, those buildings. And
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: he was, he had like so many jobs and he
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: was a superintendent of those buildings. So he had an
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: office there and we also lived there and I would
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: go visit him in the office and go around and
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: like help him fix, watch him fix like, you know, things. Oh,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: he was a super.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a super.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: And he was also a garbage man, but he did both.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: And so he had an office, he used to lift
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: weights in there and I used to go hang out
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: with him and the guys that worked there and everything.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: They had like, Posted the girls on the wall in
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: the office and they played darts and stuff.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: But my dad, he didn't drink. He wasn't into sports.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 4: He didn't drink.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: He just was like, I don't know, man. He was
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: very unique. He was a healthy guy, very into fitness.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: But I hung out with him a lot. And so
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: he took me one day.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget it.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, we're going to go play. And he threw,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: it was a Coca-Cola, red Coca-Cola Frisbee. And we went
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: down the block.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: We went in there.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: Not a car in the place.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: Gates closed.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: And we're throwing the Frisbee back and forth.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: I'm young.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 4: I'm probably... I was like five, six years old, tops. And,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't even know. To this day, I
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 4: can't really throw a Frisbee. I throw the one that
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 4: just does that.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can throw a Frisbee?
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: It must feel like a superpower.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: It does feel good when you learn it because when
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: you don't know how to do it as a dude,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: it is a questionable look.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's anybody's guess when I throw it
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: how it's going to look. If it's going to just
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: sail to the right, if it's gonna wobble if it's
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: gonna hit the floor like you know can you throw
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: it like.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: That huh no that dude is also closet engaged yeah
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: i think I'll throw it like a regular dude.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and bless him, yeah.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: But that dude is like, yeah, any of that dude.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: That dude's trying to steal your lady, too, you know?
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 4: He's skipping it.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's skipping it off of a fucking
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: Toyota Tercel or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a show-off, you know?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes a show-off. That's what I don't like is
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I could just make sure I get it
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: to where it's going. In the area. So if we
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: were playing, if we haven't, is it a catch? Yeah.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: Having a catch, yeah.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 4: Having a frisbee?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: Having a frisbee catch?
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: Throwing a frisbee?
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: If we're throwing a frisbee, I could be far away
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: from you and you could be like, I got you.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: I got you, yeah.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: That's really nice. Do you have to spin in a
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: full circle before you let it go or no?
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: Can you just do like that? No, I didn't really
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: throw like a discus. I had no skill whatsoever in
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: that department. Yeah.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 4: So I would just like, you know, let it go.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry. It's all.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: Dude, what happened to me, I had a traumatic experience.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: I seen three gay dudes throwing a Frisbee in a
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: Hampton Inn.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: Hot tub, like a big hot tub. And to this day.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: That had to be bigger than the place the tub
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: you played Navy in because they were throwing the Frisbee?
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: Well, they were all just sitting there just kind of
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: throwing it to each other.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: And it just was... It was just the most craziest
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: thing I'd ever seen in my life.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 4: Wait, what part was crazy?
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: The fact that they... It was kind of like a
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: little sport. And they were only sitting like four feet
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: from each other. And then they kept throwing this little frisbee.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: To each other.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: I love that you described that. Would you say a traumatic?
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 4: Would you say a crazy experience?
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: It fucking broke my heart.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: Because that's when I knew that our military was done.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: That's when I knew, dude. Oh, God.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 4: To me, it sounds like a party broke out, though.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I think I got to say, and
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of it for me is a perspective issue.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: It's like I show up.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: It is, man.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: I show up with a negative perspective. I'm like, look
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: at these guys. Look at these Air Force guys or whatever.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, I must have missed that part. They were in
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 4: the Air Force?
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: They were in the Navy probably. You saw you weren't
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: in the tub and you're just having like PTSD about
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: the Navy.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Was it you?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of bad experiences.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Well, mine went wide. And it was our neighborhood.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: And my dad saw a guy that he knew walking
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: by in the street outside the other side of the gate.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: And so he was like, he just walked over to
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: the gate to say hello to his friend. And he's
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: at the gate talking to his friend. And he threw
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: it to me. And it went over there. So I
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: was like, all right. I was walking to go get it.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was two things in this parking lot,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: me and my dad. And so I'm walking to get
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: the Frisbee and then I look up and from the
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: other side of the parking lot, I see a station
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: wagon is now in the parking lot and it's driving
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: toward me. And even at that age, I'm like, I
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: didn't mind. There's no way he didn't see. It wasn't like,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: oh my God, a car's coming. I was just like, no,
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: he saw me. And I'm walking to get the thing
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: and he's driving toward it as well.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: Remember it so vividly. I got to the, Coca-Cola Frisbee.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: And I looked down and I looked and the car
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: was still coming at me. You know, it wasn't going
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: that fast. I'm sure it was going like 10 miles
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: an hour or whatever, something like that. And I went
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: to go pick up the Frisbee. And my dad's talking.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: He's not looking. And I go to pick up the Frisbee.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: I remember I picked it up and I dropped it.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: I fumbled it and it dropped back down. And I
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: had this moment of, do I pick it back up
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: right now or do I get out of it? I
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: just remember being like, it happened fast and I went
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: to pick it back up. And the next thing, when
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: I woke up, I was in my dad's arms and
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: he was running with me in his arms. And to
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: get in his car and take me to the hospital.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't get any broken bones or anything. I got
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: bruised up. But yeah, I blacked out completely. The car
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: hit me. Now, in hindsight, I know the story. My
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: dad got so mad. He turned around.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you must think to see your
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: five-year-old get hit by a car. Yeah.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know this till later on, but I
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: found out that he just went nuts. And he ran,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: the guy hit the thing and he ran up to
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: the car and he was like, just punching, like, get
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: out of the car, just punching the car. And the
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: guy wouldn't get it. He's like, get the, and he's
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: trying to rip it. And my, my dad's friend goes, Sal, Sal,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: don't worry about that. Get your son, you know? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, and they just grabbed me
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: and we ran, went to the hospital. Who's punching the car,
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: you know? But that was a big guy, you know?
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: He was punching the car and everything. And then, yeah,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: so I got hit by this car.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: Hold on, son! Yeah, it's like, stay with me!
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be right with you! Smash!
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: It later turned out that it was one of my
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: kids in my grammar school's grandfather. But anyway, and I
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: guess we sued him. But it was like, man, it
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: was really a disappointment of a lawsuit.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I got five, I mean, I was like,
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: what was it? It was like probably 1981 or something.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: I got $ 5, 000. That's a lot of money then. Yeah.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 4: Adjusted for inflation from 81. Hit me out.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: And then I couldn't touch it until I was 18.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: And so when I was 18, I was 12 grand
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: when I was 18. It was 12 when you were 18? Yeah.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 4: I think 12, 13 grand. That's about it.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: $ 5, 000 to.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: 12 grand when you were 18?
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: What'd you do with it?
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't really know. Ultimately.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what I thought I was going
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: to do with it. I thought I was going to
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: buy an engagement ring with it. Yeah, that's what I
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: told her. I was like, oh, I'm going to just
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: take this money to buy you an engagement ring.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: I love that you've taken like a knee.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: From me so many times. It started with the gout.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: So many times you really felt my pain.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks, man. Yeah, I mean, that's a fucking God, yeah,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: when I get. I'm going to get her that ring
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: and we're going to get a little home or something.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: It sounds like, uh, there's so much, like I haven't
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: spoken about, like, it's just, it sounds right now that
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, man, my life with this woman. And
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: I was still thinking about it. It's like, I didn't
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: even remember that, that I was going to do that.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: But when you asked me, I was like, I think, yeah,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: I remember telling her that, like, I'm going to get
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: you a ring with this money.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Oh, I remember a girl, she broke up with
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: me and then I got in like, Oh, I'm going to,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: I remember calling her mom. I'm going to buy her
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: a ring, you know? And like, I took that Avenue
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: one time.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: Like I was, I was just, yeah.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: Doing that stuff and planning ahead is relationships are fucking hard,
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: especially when you're just figuring out about love.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: And am I in love?
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: What's going on? You know, how many, how many, uh,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: have you been in love? Yeah.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: I've been in love, man.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 4: How many times?
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: No, I think maybe three, four times.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, that's about right.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: Um, that's about, I think three for me, I got
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: to start dating towards a family, you know, cause you
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: want one.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because otherwise I'm like, what happens if you don't
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: get one? Then you are, are you, it's sometimes it
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: gets a little strange when I still go like to
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: people's things or something and it's just me.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 4: I get that.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, I got to start bringing somebody.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: Do you? But you want to bring some boot, like,
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to bring like something that's
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: not like potential. Yeah, right, right, right, right.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: So wait, so are you feeling pressure just externally because
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: of those situations and maybe your age? Or are you
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: feeling internally, biologically, like I long for this and I
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm ready to, I feel like I'm kind
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: of ready to start a family.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 4: Are you feeling that? Or are you like, where are
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 4: you at?
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. I
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: think it's like, if I'm going to do it, I
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: have to do it at some point. Do you feel-
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: Or I'm going to be like my dad. Right, right.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: You know, or not really, but I'll be, you know.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, a parallel, yeah. You know,
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: but I think there's part of me in that that's
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: always like, oh, you could do it whenever. I think
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: that could have been my mindset that I got, too.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: Like, I can always, yeah. So, you want to put
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: my shirt on?
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 4: I got to set you up with somebody or something.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 4: I don't really play matchmaker, but.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: Keep your ears open. People sometimes try to matchmake me,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: but I just got to be more like. But you're
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: not looking for it? I'm keeping my eyes open. Nashville's
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: kind of tough because it's a lot of college and
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: then a lot of married.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 4: Also now, you're so famous. How you meet.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: Someone has to be a little more intricate now. You've
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: got to make sure you're investing your time in someone
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: that's for the right reasons. That was the thing with me.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 2: My girl that I'm with now, I've been with since
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: before I was like in the public, you know what
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean? It was like right, just like right about
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: that time. But I've known her, I knew her like,
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 2: I would say like seven, eight years even before that. So,
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't have to navigate being in the
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: public like this and then trying to put myself out
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: there for somebody like that. You know, be vulnerable and
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: invest that kind of time. Yeah, it gets a little spooky.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: Cause sometimes you're afraid to like message somebody.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: If you like, if you meet somebody online, you know,
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: and you don't want to feel forced to like have
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: to meet somebody that's also in like has you know
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: i'd love to just meet a yeah i just want
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: to meet whoever i'm supposed to meet yeah so i
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: just want to make sure i'm able to be like
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: in a good space you know and just be ready
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: yeah you know yeah and i just feel like a
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: little bit of that kind of change and like i
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: think i'm ready for something a little bit more realistic
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: you know yeah.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 4: I never really talk about it. I never talk about it,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 4: but I, yeah, I was 43.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: I'm married.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never really talk about it at all, but
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: people know that I'm with my lady for a very
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 4: I've met her. Yeah, you know her.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: She's wonderful.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 4: You've known her since back then.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: Cute, too. Sorry, I shouldn't have said this, but she's wonderful.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: I'll say that. She's beautiful.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: She's my best friend, man. That's what I was going
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, I was going to say beautiful, but
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, dude, you can't say beautiful to the guy. That's,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: You say cute, right?
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: Is cute weird? Dude, she's hot.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just pretend I didn't say anything.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, dude, I'm so, so private. I just never
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: want to... Privacy is like the last thing I have.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: Once I give it away, I can't get it back.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: And it's just weird because I've spent a decade on
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: television as myself.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 4: And so there's a.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: Different type of filter between me and the people that
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: enjoy what I do and stuff.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 4: And there's a familiarity. And it's like good and bad.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: So.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: Some people are just very curious because I am so private,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: so that kind of brings Stokes curiosity. But then also
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: just sometimes people, they just feel like they know me,
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: and so there's a little bit of a line crossing.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: I was very private my whole life. So this is
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: like to the umpteenth for me, you know? So like,
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 2: I just keep it, I just keep that to the vest.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 2: Cause it really, what is, what does it matter? What
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: does that detail matter?
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: You know? And I, but, but it's, but I also
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: want to be able to speak freely about your own life.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And I, I do
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: want to talk about my own life. And I was,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: I was, what I was saying was my next special
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: that I'm working on now, I am going to like,
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: I want to do it on my own terms and stuff.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: So I am like, it's going to be speaking about,
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: you know, her on stage and stuff.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what? i just gotta
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 4: like you.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: Know just put it out there and stuff yeah it's
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: important yeah yeah well yeah it's it's it's interesting it's
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: like you want to be able to be yourself at
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: the same time you want to protect the few things
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: you have that feel like that they aren't public.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: And protect her as a person because like you know
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: you know how you know the internet is and all
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: that stuff it's just scary it is you know and
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: i just like i don't like it you know i
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: want to keep the people i love the most away
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: from it you know but But there's a sense of
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: me that also wants to speak about my life. And,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: you know, and, you know, I mean, like, I love her.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: She's my best friend. I talk about her. But, like,
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: she's always like, you know, if you say it, you
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: say it, you know. But, you know, she's like, I
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: don't mind if you, you know, you know. And I'm like,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: I just want to say it. But once I say it,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just a thing, you know. I don't
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: know if I make more of it than it should
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: be in my own head. But, yeah, dude, I've never
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: really said it. So I think one at a time.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, thanks for talking about it, man. You make
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: me comfortable. Thanks, bro. Yeah. There's been times in my
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: life where I didn't want to say that I was
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: dating somebody because I would think I was worried about
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: what people would think or if people would try to
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: find that person. Yes. But then at some points I
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: felt bad that I didn't try and honor them a
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: little bit more or if they felt like that.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: That's the struggle I have. And she's very understanding.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: She's the best.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: So it's like that balancing– it's balancing all those things.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 4: It's even like, it feels weird for me to even
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: say it out loud.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit of nervous energy for you. Yeah,
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: because once it's out of the bag, it's out of
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: the bag.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: But it's like a big step. We can always take
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: it out, too.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. If you think about that, totally fine. Yeah,
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: right on. I mean, do you want to talk about
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: building a family or you don't want to go into that?
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: You think you're okay?
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 4: That's really going there, but I guess I'm going to
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 4: do it as well. I mean, I don't know. Yeah,
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, to say that I have a kid is
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 4: like a.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 1: You don't feel like you have to at all? You
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: don't feel like I think you have to? No, not
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: at all, babe.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: Not at all. I feel totally comfortable. I'm just saying
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: to myself, like, dude, I have never, you know, really
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: said it. It's like, you know, I just want to,
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: you know, but, and I, so it's, yeah, it's just like,
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: here it is.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: Does it feel scary to admit to yourself, you think?
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: No, I've, I mean, if in my regular life, I
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: don't even, like, if you come up to me with
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: my wife, this is my kid, like, I don't, it's,
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: that's real life.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 2: But why do people that see me for 22 minutes
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: a week on TV need to know that?
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 4: Why do people, you know what I mean?
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: Like, in real life, I honor my real life, you know,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: but this is just like, this is entertainment for you.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to invite you in. Like,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: I don't want people to be like, come up to
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: me like, hey, how's your wife? Like, it's like, I don't,
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: you know, but.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, so it's even, I think it's a little,
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: like more with the daughter. It's like super protective, you
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? But it's the best thing that's
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: ever happened to me. I mean, if I start talking
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: about her, man, I'll get tears in my eyes.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 4: So I love her so much, I want to.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: Express that, you know?
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: I'm so scared, I'm so scared to.
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, I don't know, you know?
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't have that response, I don't have that, like
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: something that I'm responsible for, but also I want to,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: it's funny, I think about that a lot. I think
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: about like if I have kids, would I let people
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: know Do I feel like people need to know? But
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: then also, do I want to be honest about my
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: own life? But then who am I being honest to?
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: Can I still just be honest to myself and be
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: like a good family man? I think with podcasting, I
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: think it gets a little different because it's like a
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: lot of times we do share stuff that's real to us.
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: And so then people get to know us in a
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: different element.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: And you've been doing it so long, right? It's so
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: tall for so many hours. And then sometimes you'll see
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: someone come up to you and they know something intimate.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, I guess I, because we get
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: so comfortable with each other. And this is what, you
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: want to have a real conversation, right? And that's just
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: so weird because over time, when you've talked to 1,000 hours,
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 2: people can really take notes and be like, oh, they
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: really know your shit.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll get notes at breakfast. I'll be eating somewhere
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: and somebody will be like, hey, man, I could tell
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: kind of how you were feeling. Just shit that we
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: were like, fuck, I'm fucking fucked. I know. And it
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: is weird because it's like, do I want to have
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: this exchange with you? Right, it's sweet, but it's like,
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: Do I want people to come up to me and
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: be like, so how's your daughter? Right. All the time.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to talk to you about
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: my daughter. You know what I mean? You might not
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: want to. But then she's also probably super. I mean,
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: I know you sent me those pictures. She's so cute. Yeah, man. God,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: that must be cool, huh? She just loves you. You know,
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: you hear it. You know what it's supposed to sound.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: You know what it's supposed to be. You know what
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 4: You heard descriptions of it.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: You have it. You know everything.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 4: It's the best thing ever. It's hard.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: She's my best friend. You do anything for your kids.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: The reason I live, the reason I breathe. You hear
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: it all. But then when it happens to you, there's
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: not words to describe it. So I had her 20
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: months ago. And feelings I've never felt. Imagine having a
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: new feeling after 45 years. A feeling I never felt
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: in my life is unlocked.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: And it's the deepest feeling that I've ever had in
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: my life. And I love my family. I love my wife.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: What was the feeling? It's a feeling of inexpressible, pure
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: happiness and joy that you feel like you are.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: Floating in the air.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: And it's overwhelming. You cannot process it. You can't believe it.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: You can't process it. To this day, I can't believe
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: she exists. Every day I wake up and I take
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: a deep breath and I look at her, I'm overwhelmed.
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: I've never not been overwhelmed looking at her. I've never
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: been able to process my love. The love is so
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: strong that I can't understand it.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: It's tough, man. It's insane, dude. That's awesome.
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 4: And it's just there, you know, it's just there and
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 4: it's not going to go anywhere.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: And I had gotten to some deep, some dark places,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: really dark.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like it was going to, like, that
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 1: must have been shocking because you said that it's not
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: going to go somewhere. Was there, yeah, like, fuck, dude,
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 1: that's huge.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just to think that I, just to think
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: that I will have her, you know, and then my
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 2: brain is such that then it gets dark, like, oh,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: then one day I'm going to be gone and she's
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: not going to have me and I'm not going to
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: see how the second half of her life plays out.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: And then I go to, depression and it's, I have,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm working on this as a weird thing where I
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: could be like something so good.
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 4: And then my mind wants to go, Oh, you're going
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 4: to lose it though.
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 1: It's good.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: At one day, it's not going to be that or what.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: So then I'm not going to know, uh, this is,
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: this is deep, but like, I'm not going to know
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: then how her story ends. Oh, isn't that crazy to
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: think about that? I, the air I breathe is for her.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: And then to just think that like, she might have
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: a good, 40 years on hopefully a hundred years on
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: this earth with, with a post to me that I
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: don't get to know. I don't get the thing that
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 2: I care about most in my life. I don't get
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 2: to know the end of that's there.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: So it's like this dichotomy of like this deep, deep,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: it's such a deep love, but it sends you because like,
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: if you get, if you let yourself go there, it's
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: kind of wild, man.
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: Right. But that's also kind of a creative and you know,
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: it's a, uh, It's a deep thought. And deep thoughts are...
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: Depth has darkness in it a lot of times. The
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: deeper you want to get into stuff, the more that
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 1: can be in there. But wow, I've never even thought
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 1: about that. It's like if watching your favorite... It's like
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: your favorite movie, but you don't get to see the half. Right.
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: But you got to make the movie, though.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, it's like nothing you've ever felt.
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I... The feeling that you said that it's not
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: going to go anywhere, that's... That really sent me, man.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: Because, yeah, I think... I didn't realize until you said
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: that there's this feeling always inside of me that... That
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: it's gonna go somewhere. You know? That it's not.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: That it's not... Like, it's not reliable or something. I
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: think it even goes back to me, like... Not knowing how... to,
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to check in and make sure
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: people know you care all the time. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 2: It's wild that I get to wake up to, I
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: wake up now at like seven in the morning every day, like, or,
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: you know, we're eight, but like, but I was never
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: a morning person. You know, I was never, I was
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 2: a bartender.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 4: I'm a comic.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: Like I, I'm not that guy and I wake up
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: and I, so here's another thing. I remember what it
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: was like to feel naturally, organically, truly feelings of happiness.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: Whether it was just a general feeling or whether I
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: got good news, like this feeling that would emanate like joy,
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: like joy, like pure though, right?
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: You're a very joyous guy.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: But I lost that. And for a while, I was depressed.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: I would register that I was supposed to feel happy.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: And I would say, oh, I'm so happy about that.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: But I would say, but that feeling.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 4: Is not here. I'm telling myself that I'm happy.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm happy. This is great news. Or this is, oh,
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 2: that's wonderful. Or, oh, I'm excited. But this thing that
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: I used to have, where it's like, You walk around
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 2: like with a pep in your step and you're cheery
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 2: and it's coming out of you. Yeah. Like it's coming
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: out of you. You're emoting it.
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: Like it's beyond you. Your body, you're not in control
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: of it. You're happy. Right.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: Not that you now live life and you know, oh,
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: this is good news.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: I'm happy.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be happy.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: But it's not the same.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 4: No, and I stopped feeling that.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: What happened? It's amazing you're saying this. It's exactly how
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: I feel a lot of times. I look at old
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: videos of myself. I'm like, man, that guy was so happy. Right?
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: And I would get really sad about that because it's
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 2: like I have no reason not to be happy. I
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: have such a wonderful support system, family, friends. I am
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: so lucky in my life to do what I want
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: in my career. I feel blessed. Every day, every day
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: I know how lucky I am. I take nothing for granted.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: And so why? Why then do I not feel that And,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: but the odd thing is is that I can.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: Feel viscerally sad. I have immediate access to sadness.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 4: Immediate access. And I didn't used to. It like flip flopped.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 2: And if I wanted to sit here right now and
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: talk to you about something sad, I could bring up
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: something that's sad to me and in one minute I
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: could be bawling. And I feel it. Like I feel
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: it emanating. But the happiness, it's kind of like I
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: had to either work at it or just like accept
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: this new version of happiness.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 4: And with my daughter.
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: It's free again.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: It's more than it ever was, man. It's crazy to
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: have someone pull that out of you. And it's at
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: the ready, and it's just limitless. It's like, I don't
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: need anything. Anything.
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 4: I don't need to access it.
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 2: If I hear her voice, if she walks through, if
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: I look at a photo of her right now, something
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: happens to my body. That's cool, man.
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Even if we don't put this up. I
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: didn't mean to get into this. Hey, we can save
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: this and you can give it to her one day,
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 1: you know? Yeah.
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't mean to get into this, you know? Like,
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 4: I know that you, you know, it's cool with you.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: Like, I know you go everywhere on your podcast and stuff.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: No, it's okay, man.
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 4: I hope your listeners are cool with it.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: Like, I just, if we keep it in, like, I just,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: I know it's not laughs, but. No, it's okay.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, dude, to see that somebody, how much somebody
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: cares about their kid, you know? Yeah.
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It makes, yeah, because it's funny. That's where I'm
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: at in my life. I think I'm like, Could I
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: do it? Would I be able to be okay? You will.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: Even if they say it's true, everything they say is true,
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: you never know, you think you're ready.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 4: You will never be ready. Something just happens, man. You
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 4: don't know if you could do it. You don't know
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 4: if you're ready.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: Will you be a good this? Will you be a
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: good that?
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: That happens naturally, immediately. It's just something, a switch flips
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 2: and you... you, it's not, could you do it? It's,
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: I want to be the best at it. You know, it's, it's,
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: the doubt is erased. The doubt is erased. You immediately
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: like you thrive off of it. You know, like it's, it's, it's,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: it really is purpose. I mean, all those cliches, all
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: those trite things that people say, but it's true. You know,
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 2: it's like, I thought I had meaning and purpose and
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: I do, you know, I, I, I, you know, like
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: I said, I just, I'm so lucky and I, Even
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: like people are unfulfilled in.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 4: Certain areas, but I'm lucky. I love my job.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a comedian.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: I want to be a comedian since I'm a little kid.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 2: A little kid is all I wanted to do. And
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't even start doing it like this until very
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 2: late in life. And I'm so lucky that I did
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 2: it because I could imagine I could have never done it.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: It's all I care about. So I always am like
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: blown away every day that I am a working comedian.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: like wait, my dream came true. Like it's wild to me.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: Cause you could be a comic too. And it's so
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: hard to like stay the course and then to get
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: by and make a living and all that stuff, you know?
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: And I really don't think, what is the percentage of
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: comedians that get to that level? Like that can say,
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: this is my job.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, but like I never would.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: Believe it.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: And so that's, so I feel like I have a
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: purpose and I, And I love my family. I am
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 2: very self-aware and reflective and everything. But then when I
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: had my daughter, it's like everything just melts away. It's
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: like there's just one thing that matters.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: It's so fulfilling.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 2: And it's a source of joy and energy and just
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: the love. The love is a different level of love.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: And so it's not like, oh, I'm afraid. Like, oh,
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: I hope I don't fuck this up. It's like it's
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: the best thing that's ever happened to you. You're going
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 2: to honor it.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: You feel like you've become a new person? Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I am– I've had– I'm as late in life.
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: So I feel like I was, I'm always getting, I'll
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: never be, you know, always getting in touch with yourself and,
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: and learning. But I did have a so late in
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: life that I feel like I, you know, as to say,
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: like if I had a kid when I was 25
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 2: or 45, I know who I am more. So in
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: that respect, I feel good about that.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, but, um, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: Because you have a new title, you have a new job,
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 2: you haven't, you have a new purpose, you know? And, uh,
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: And it's so beautiful because everything that she consumes, how
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: she learns life, how she learns what life is about
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 2: and who people are and who she is and everything
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 2: from just her brain developing and learning words and just
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 2: to emotions and the things she observes and molding the
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: person that she becomes and wanting to give her, do
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: better than, you always want to do better and do
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: better and you know, and you know, I'm always like
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: trying to, you know, we fail, but trying to better myself.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: And like, she just like, it's like step on the gas,
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like everything I do, I
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: run through the filter of her. Everything now. Like, I mean,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: like it has nothing to do with her. I say,
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: will this, if my daughter saw me doing this, if
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: my daughter saw me working on this or talking to
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: someone like this or speaking like this or handling myself
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: in this way, like will it make her proud? You know,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: it's an example for her. And so like, I just like,
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: I walk around thinking of that all the time now.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: And it's really great. It's really great to hold yourself
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: to a standard, which I did before. But like I said,
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 2: this is a deep new level and to hold yourself
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 2: to the standard, but, but want to do it and
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 2: be proud to try and then be proud to, and
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: then succeed at it.
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: You know, like, and know it.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, I, I'm right.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: I have an integrity. You feel like I'm big on integrity, man. I,
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 2: my whole life. And so as a guy who has
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: always been on like my word, I give you my word.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm honest. Like I, I, uh, I'm not, I've tried
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: to be genuine. I don't fucking, I can't stand phony people.
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: I don't like, you know, I just, I don't, I
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 2: don't like people that aren't kind, you know, like I'm
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: just very, I don't know, whatever my, my work, everything
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 2: I do, I try the hardest I can.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 4: I kill myself with that shit.
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: But like, um, so, so being a person like that
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: already to then have the marker be her. and how
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: the person she becomes and how she thinks of me,
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: what's going to be her perception of me, that's the highest.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 2: And so it's like the Super Bowl of integrity.
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 4: And it's a wonderful thing. It's not a hard thing.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 4: It's a gift. It's like a gift. This probably sounds
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 4: so corny to people.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think it sounds corny at all, dude. I
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: know everyone says it, and I probably just sound like
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: I just realized it, but it's like I said, it's
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: just different.
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: When it happens. We never talk about it on here.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 1: I don't have a, yeah, I never really talk about
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: like to friends about their, about kids or anything like that.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: And it's just funny because it's a place that I'm
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: at in my life now. And I don't wonder how
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: that'll look. And it's just funny how like God kind
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: of puts things together and is like, oh, well, how
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: about this? Why don't I connect you with this awesome
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: example of a guy who feels like he's got who
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: has been bringing joy forever and found a whole new
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: level of joy. This guy made 300 episodes of joy.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: And now I trumped him with one episode of joy. Right, right, right.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild, dude. Now it's, I'll tell you, now
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: the episode never ends and there's no commercial.
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 2: There's no commercial breaks.
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, and so your special is? It's coming. out next week. Yeah,
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: it's great.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 4: It's called Terrified.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: It's on YouTube. Salvocano Terrified on YouTube. It's on 800lb
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 2: Gorillaz channel. Oh, yeah, they're great, man. I made my
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: first album with them.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I'm super excited about it, man. And a
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 2: tour is going on sale the same day.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 2: I got the whole tour coming up. I mean, geez,
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: the next year, uh, everything's fine. Tour tickets at Savile
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: County comedy.com. So it's a big week, you know, next week.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully people want to come see me. Hopefully people
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  Speaker 2: want to come watch it and, uh, want to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks for coming and talking about that with me, man. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's so exciting. So to have a, a big tour
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  Speaker 1: heading out, um, right on the back of the special
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  Speaker 1: launch and it's your, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's your first special. yeah, this is my first special.
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  Speaker 2: Not my first tour, but like, to come out together,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, it's like a big, like, hold.
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  Speaker 1: Your breath day. You know what I mean? Because it's
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  Speaker 1: been a long road. It's a long road for a
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  Speaker 1: comedian to get to his first special. It means so much.
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  Speaker 1: You know how, you know, I remember your first Netflix one. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: people were so excited. When you get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: do your first special, it's like, I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I worked, hard I mean I know we all
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  Speaker 2: do it just like I was in this zone you
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  Speaker 2: know it never mind that it's like 10 years of
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  Speaker 2: whatever the material but like just the last like ramping
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  Speaker 2: up to it the last six months I I spent
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  Speaker 2: hours on it every single day for like to the
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  Speaker 2: point of the day after I filmed it I felt
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  Speaker 2: like I was gonna pass out because it's like I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe I don't have to think about this thing
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah getting meticulous with stuff you know like the
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  Speaker 2: every little thing you know yeah getting it like that
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  Speaker 2: and I and and everyone that worked on me with,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you because they did
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  Speaker 2: such a, I had a huge team. It's, they did
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  Speaker 2: such a good job. I think it looks really great.
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  Speaker 2: Like I just, it's just, it just, I'm really, I'm, it's,
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  Speaker 2: I'm proud of it. You know, as I hope you,
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  Speaker 2: I'm anxious. Cause you know, like you get like people
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  Speaker 2: that just, they don't care. They hate, gonna hate you
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  Speaker 2: no matter what, you know, but I, I really, it's very,
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  Speaker 2: it's personal, you know? Um, and, uh, yeah. And then
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  Speaker 2: the tour launching with it, I hope it like, I just,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just hoping for, for big things, you know, like Stan,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I just, cause I'm, you know, I just
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  Speaker 2: want to go ahead. Like, I just want to be
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  Speaker 2: full on standup and, and, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm lucky that we got another season of the show
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, but you know, after that is kind of
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  Speaker 2: like what I, you know, what I'm jumping into, but
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  Speaker 2: it's been tough touring nonstop, you know, with the show,
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  Speaker 2: but dude, this is just like, I'm, I'm, I'm really,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just psyched.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks for having me. Thanks.
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  Speaker 4: Let me talk about it and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's huge, man. I mean, that's like, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Getting your first special. Man, yeah, I know we just
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  Speaker 1: realized that your time, we got to get you out
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  Speaker 1: of here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my flight board's in 17 minutes. I didn't mean
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  Speaker 2: to run out like that. I could have talked to
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  Speaker 2: you for another two hours, dude. Yeah, same, same here, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to come up and visit you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: And come over the house, have dinner and stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to, man. I love you, man.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just happy to get to spend time with you today.
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  Speaker 2: I told you, I texted you. I was so excited
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  Speaker 2: to see you. You didn't disappoint. I always love catching.
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  Speaker 1: Up with you, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 1: Same.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations on your first comedy special.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, bro. You started off a comedian. You still are, man.
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  Speaker 1: And thank you for all the years of entertainment, Sal Volcano.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel
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  Speaker 3: I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh,
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  Speaker 3: but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace
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  Speaker 3: of mind I found I can feel it in my
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  Speaker 3: bones