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- 0:10Hey friends, welcome to season five of Upright Christian Parenting Podcast,
- 0:14part of the Treehouse Storyteller family.
- 0:17I'm your host, Hannah Pru, author, homeschool mama, and fellow parent.
- 0:21This is your place for upright parenting in a sideways culture.
- 0:25We'll face the issues around us, grow in God's word, and raise our kids with courage.
- 0:30Our children are being discipled by something, so let's make sure it's us.
- 0:37Hey everyone welcome back to upright christian parenting today i have a special
- 0:42guest with me sherry few is the founder and president of united states parents
- 0:47involved in education and we'll dig through that and talk about that more with her
- 0:52she's a nationally recognized leader on education policy,
- 0:56and you know she has written extensively about critical race theory she's even
- 1:02been an executive producer for the documentary and film,
- 1:06titled Truth and Lies in American Education.
- 1:10Oh my goodness. Welcome to the Treehouse, Sherry.
- 1:15Thank you for having me, Hannah. Oh my goodness. Well, can you maybe just give
- 1:20us like a brief background of who you are and how you got into all of these
- 1:24initiatives that you are a part of and why this is important to you?
- 1:28Okay, sure. So it started for me when my children were enrolled in government schools.
- 1:36I had three boys in government schools, and I was a stay-at-home mom and real
- 1:41involved with their schools.
- 1:43You know, and I'm dating myself, but my children are close to 40 years old now.
- 1:47So we're talking quite a while ago.
- 1:50I noticed in their curriculum that there were things that just simply weren't
- 1:54true. And I was very concerned.
- 1:56And, you know, and this was even way back then that there were signs of it. And then there was...
- 2:03Insidious sex education that was being promoted in our state.
- 2:09And I got involved with fighting that.
- 2:12And we were actually successful in thwarting the really insidious stuff and
- 2:17improving the standards that were adopted for sex education in South Carolina, where I live.
- 2:23And so from there, I started an organization called South Carolina Parents Involved in Education.
- 2:30And we led the fight in our state against the common core standards.
- 2:34I don't know if you remember that.
- 2:37And, you know, people like myself all over the country were doing the same thing.
- 2:42And, you know, after a couple of years of working really hard to lobby for legislation,
- 2:47to repeal the common core standards, we were very disappointed that they simply
- 2:52rebranded them, put them back out there.
- 2:55It happened all over the country. So I spoke with leaders like myself around
- 3:00the country, again, who had led the fight like I did against Common Core.
- 3:04And we decided to work together. And that's when we expanded into United States
- 3:11Parents Involved in Education.
- 3:13And we adopted as our mission to close the U.S. Department of Education and
- 3:18end all federal education mandates.
- 3:21And the reason we chose that as our mission is we understood that the majority
- 3:25of the nefarious pedagogies originate.
- 3:28With the federal government and are incentivized with federal dollars.
- 3:33So that is our mission here at USPi. We've been a national organization since 2014.
- 3:40And, you know, it's kind of interesting that that we adopted that mission back
- 3:44then. And of course, the president has recently written executive orders and
- 3:50taken steps toward closing the Department of Ed.
- 3:54But of course, it's not up to him. It's a congressional act that would be required.
- 3:59So we still stand by that mission. But what's also interesting is that about
- 4:04the time that we produced our film, you know, COVID had hit.
- 4:08And all of a sudden, all of these other really nefarious pedagogies,
- 4:15I mean, we thought Common Core was bad. But what's happening today is really
- 4:18bad. And I'm sure we're going to get into some of that.
- 4:21Um, so we, we, you know, now are really focused, you know, we,
- 4:26that we still have the same mission and beyond,
- 4:28closing the federal department of education and removing the federal government
- 4:32from education, we want to restore parental and local control of education.
- 4:38Um, but we'll talk, you know, more about our organization. That's sort of my
- 4:42background for you. Yeah. Yeah.
- 4:45Um, does Jefferson County, Colorado mean anything to you?
- 4:50Well, it should, but why don't you clue me in? I know some stories from Colorado.
- 4:56We have a lot of them. Yeah. We have a lot of them. So I'm in Jefferson County,
- 5:01Colorado, and the lawsuit where the little girl went to camp and ended up in
- 5:07bed with someone with the opposite sex.
- 5:12Wow. That is our county. We have, I mean, countless, Countless Columbine is in our county.
- 5:19We have so many issues. We're in a federal case right now.
- 5:27And I think it's over like a bathroom issue. I'm trying to remember exactly
- 5:31what that one is. I mean, there's so many, it's really hard to keep track because
- 5:34every full weeks it's like, oh, here's another one.
- 5:38But yes, I mean, the thing that.
- 5:44You know, we started out where, talked about common core and it was like the curriculum,
- 5:50or at least ideas of the curriculum like that was what we were fighting for
- 5:54that was what we were mad or up in arms over,
- 5:57and there's so much more distracting from just what should just be education uh now is just like,
- 6:06there's just so much more that we're having to battle and focus on and it's
- 6:12like man isn't that just how the enemy works when there's just so many distractions that keep us from,
- 6:18keeping us from what is actually the goal of the school is the education piece
- 6:24and and how that just gets so,
- 6:27so skewed so anyways I want to dig into this you have a a big story that happened
- 6:34in Penfield New York could you explain to us a little bit of what happened.
- 6:40Sure. So there was a storybook in,
- 6:46kindergarten through fifth grade, so in an elementary school,
- 6:49and it had illustrations that parents believed were wildly inappropriate.
- 6:55Parents were outraged. They went to their school board. They had a standing
- 7:00room only presence at the school board meeting, and they were outraged by the
- 7:06content of this elementary school book.
- 7:09And the school board's reaction is just astounding.
- 7:14So rather than, you know, quietly, which is what a school board normally does
- 7:19when you speak to them, you just speak and they don't even, you know,
- 7:22have a conversation with you. They just listen to you and then move on with their agenda.
- 7:27But rather than even just politely listening, the entire school board got up
- 7:32and walked out just walked out.
- 7:35And the school board president has defended the book saying that,
- 7:41you know, all families should have, you know, all different kinds of families
- 7:45should have resources in the library.
- 7:48Some of the content of the book was cartoon drawings of naked people,
- 7:53gay men in bondage, people wearing leather harnesses, and a nude man whose genitals
- 8:01were scared by balloons.
- 8:02So that's just some of the examples, the graphic things, if you can imagine.
- 8:07So it's a storybook with pictures.
- 8:10And kindergarten, can you imagine? Kindergarten through fifth grade,
- 8:14parents were rightly outraged.
- 8:18Um, but you know, I'm sure. And, and the reason we published this story this
- 8:24week is because next week is what they call banned books week.
- 8:29So that's where the American library association and the left,
- 8:33um, you know, the unions, they all come together and try to expose the fact that
- 8:40conservatives and Christians, um, decent people.
- 8:45I mean, you don't even have to be a conservative or Christian to realize that
- 8:48this is pornography and it is child abuse.
- 8:54I mean, if you or I were to be out in public and take a child and show them
- 9:00the pictures in this book, it would be a crime.
- 9:04It violates obscenity laws. But schools and libraries are exempt in most states
- 9:11from obscenity laws so they can get away with this.
- 9:15So during Ban Book Week, the liberals are going to, you know,
- 9:19they'll probably use this New York story as an example of, you know,
- 9:24parents wanting to ban books.
- 9:26Well, you know, it's not that parents want to ban books.
- 9:30They just want pornography out of the schools and out of the libraries.
- 9:35So the whole idea that we're banning books is just ridiculous.
- 9:39You know, book banning happened in communist countries as a way to control the
- 9:47people so that they were only fed propaganda that was positive about their government.
- 9:53They kept people from having information about other religions.
- 9:59So it's just ridiculous to any way compare a parent wanting to protect their
- 10:04child from pornography to the communist error of controlling people by limiting
- 10:11the information they received.
- 10:13Wow. Wow. That's incredible. I was reading about that book more this week and
- 10:18it was just, oh my goodness.
- 10:21I've got teenagers and a seven-year-old and kind of discussing and I like kind
- 10:28of talking through and processing some of the interviews and kind of getting
- 10:33my bigger kids perspective on the topic.
- 10:35We're talking about the First Amendment and banning books and all of these different concepts.
- 10:41And it was a really fun conversation. But I'm like, I can't tell you what is
- 10:44actually in this book out loud. I don't want to say these things to you and
- 10:49tell you what is actually in this book. That's how bad it is.
- 10:54So why in the world would we want this in our elementary library?
- 10:58It is crazy. But I got to thinking, I'm like, man, flip it around.
- 11:04And let's say now this is Christian content. Let's say this is some of the books
- 11:10that I've written, for instance.
- 11:12I can't get them in the libraries. I literally, in Jefferson County,
- 11:15cannot. They will not accept it as a donation.
- 11:18They don't want my Bible perspective on love and marriage and the idea of the
- 11:25rainbow being God's covenant. They don't want it. They will not touch it.
- 11:28They will not let me in the library. No, no, ma'am. Sorry, we cannot accept this.
- 11:33And so it's so crazy this whole like flip the script on the whole banning idea
- 11:41and you know you say it's just like everything else.
- 11:44Let's dig on that note. Let's dig into the critical race theory for a second because,
- 11:51you know in the name of diversity and inclusion but the second that that comes
- 11:55against their agenda all of a sudden that is a completely closed door right?
- 12:00Right, right. Yeah, what a contradiction. It's...
- 12:05You know, first you talked about how you can't read the content of this book
- 12:09to your children because it's that bad.
- 12:12And that reminded me of all of the videos we've seen on social media where parents,
- 12:18you know, over the last several years, I've seen several videos where parents
- 12:22are speaking out at school board meetings.
- 12:24And to make their point, they were reading from these very graphic pornographic books.
- 12:31And so they're reading it and then their mics get cut,
- 12:34and they won't let them read anymore because the the content is so offensive
- 12:38these adults on the school board can't listen to it and yet um it's okay for
- 12:43kids right so so that's the irony in it,
- 12:47and so so yes they they do always flip,
- 12:50the narrative on us and you know they they want inclusion as you said they you
- 12:56know but but when it comes to Christianity.
- 13:01They don't want any of that in the schools.
- 13:03And it's only the Christian religion because other religions are explained in detail and glorified.
- 13:13Islam, for example. And so what's happening in government schools is propaganda.
- 13:21So that's kind of ironic too, that they're accusing us of banning books when
- 13:26the real book bans were about propaganda.
- 13:29Books, you know, books about capitalism and the West were prohibited and they
- 13:35were fed propaganda about what's so good about their form of government.
- 13:40Well, the same is true now with the government schools. Their propaganda that
- 13:46they're feeding the minds of young children is anti-American.
- 13:50So they're teaching them to hate their country.
- 13:53It is anti-Christian.
- 13:55And then, of course, it's pro all of these liberal agendas, the LGBTQ agenda,
- 14:02which, of course, the T, you know, we didn't pay much attention to the T 10 years ago.
- 14:07We knew the acronym, but but we always thought the T, the transgender,
- 14:12was just kind of a quirky thing, you know, where some men like to dress up like women.
- 14:18You know, we we knew about RuPaul and, you know, we just kind of shirked that off.
- 14:24And now all of a sudden, we have an epidemic in this country of young people,
- 14:30who think they're not who they're born.
- 14:35And that is a direct result of what they're teaching in government schools.
- 14:40They are putting these thoughts in the minds of children, just like the book we just discussed.
- 14:45You know, the book is a story about a young girl who is going to a pride parade
- 14:52with her two lesbian moms.
- 14:54Okay, so we've got very young children soaking up all the information they can
- 14:59get, and you're putting this in their heads so that,
- 15:03they think it's normal, they think it could be them, because children try to
- 15:08relate to the characters in a book. Right, right. And so...
- 15:12They're putting this mental dysphoria in the minds of children,
- 15:17and then they go so far as to work on transitioning.
- 15:22And I say that in quotes because you can't transition, you know.
- 15:28Medically, biologically.
- 15:29You can't go from a boy to a girl. It doesn't happen.
- 15:33But that's the term that they use for what they do to children.
- 15:37And often the government schools are doing it behind the backs of their parents.
- 15:42I cannot tell you how many stories I've covered of parents who find out years later.
- 15:48There's a story in Rhode Island where a mother found that her young teenage
- 15:53daughters, you know, she was in her early teens, had been transitioning for two years.
- 15:58And she didn't know about it until her daughter tried to commit suicide right in front of her.
- 16:04And that's how she learned that this had been happening behind her back.
- 16:10So this stuff is crazy. I mean, it's gotten, you know, you talked about Common
- 16:16Core and then COVID and what I believe happened during COVID, you know.
- 16:22I, I've always said that, and a lot of people say this, that during COVID,
- 16:27you know, people, parents were made aware because kids were home with their
- 16:31Chromebooks and they could see what they're learning. And, and I'm sure that's still part of it.
- 16:36But I think another part of it was this agenda that the left has had,
- 16:41and they're so good about patiently,
- 16:44going through their stages, but they witnessed what they were able to do to
- 16:49the American people as far as controlling us with masks and,
- 16:53and everybody had to stay home.
- 16:55They closed the churches, they closed businesses and they saw how they could control us.
- 17:00And it's like they opened the floodgates with all of this other nonsense that
- 17:04I think they've been doing it covertly for some time, but they all of a sudden
- 17:09just became bold and just put it out there.
- 17:12And it's, it's, it's so bad that it's in your face now, and they're not even ashamed of it.
- 17:20They support and think they're right. They think what they're doing is right. Yeah, yeah.
- 17:27From our very first days, America has been driven by the idea that hard work
- 17:32could lead us to the life we always envisioned.
- 17:35And today, on.
- 17:51Eyes to the opportunities that were out there for me. Our model of providing
- 17:56a Christian liberal arts education to those facing economic hardship hasn't wavered since 1906.
- 18:03Our students graduate debt-free through our work education program.
- 18:07They learn how to live a life guided by their faith.
- 18:10And as they begin their careers, they've learned how to take their seat at the
- 18:14table of influence and open the door of opportunity for others.
- 18:18Being an assistant principal is a lot of.
- 18:41Yeah, the evil will be called good and good will be called evil.
- 18:46Let's talk about some solutions. I try really hard to equip parents as best as I can.
- 18:53And I think you are probably one of the best people to talk to on this issue
- 18:58about solutions. So what all are you guys doing to push back and what can we do as parents?
- 19:05Okay, so our hands are tied somewhat as parents. So the best advice I can give
- 19:12to parents, and I'm sure you agree with this, is if your children are enrolled
- 19:16in government schools, you really need to get them out.
- 19:18I agree 100%. Yeah, you have to do whatever it takes.
- 19:24And I know your audience is probably Christian audience. And so you have to
- 19:29think about the fact that you might have to make some sacrifices in order to do it.
- 19:34But sacrifice isn't always bad. I mean, after all, the biggest sacrifice ever
- 19:39made was Jesus dying for us.
- 19:42And that turned into good. So sacrifice often turns into good.
- 19:47You sacrifice now for something good later.
- 19:50And so sacrifice may be involved, but you can also trust that God is going to provide for your needs.
- 19:58If you put this in God's hands, he will absolutely provide for your needs.
- 20:02He will honor your decisions.
- 20:04Because you are charged as a Christian to direct the upbringing of your child,
- 20:10to disciple your child. And education is nothing more than discipleship.
- 20:14And parents are charged with that responsibility. So we encourage Christian
- 20:19parents to take on their biblical responsibility and protect their children from the evil.
- 20:26And you described it as evil. It is clearly evil.
- 20:29We have to recognize that it is a spiritual battle that we are fighting it is
- 20:34a battle for the minds of our children we know that our enemy.
- 20:39Satan preys on our minds it is in our minds i i love joyce meyer's book the
- 20:44battlefield of mine i think it's one of the best books ever written and,
- 20:49you know she makes the point uh that that's where the devil plays is in our minds so um,
- 20:56that's what's happening to children it is a spiritual battle for parents uh
- 21:00you need to get your kids out that's your first line of defense but then i don't
- 21:04know if you know alex newman but every time i say this i have to give him credit because,
- 21:09it's his quote he says that you have to get your children out like the building
- 21:14is on fire yeah because it is,
- 21:17Yes, yes. And once you do, you have to go back and get the other children out.
- 21:23You don't leave them there to burn in the building.
- 21:26So we can't just protect our own children and forget about all the other children.
- 21:31And so that's why our organization, and there's others like ours. Thank you, Jesus.
- 21:37You know, Alex's Liberty Sentinel. There's a wonderful website that your viewers
- 21:44can go to. It's publicschoolexit.com.
- 21:48And it's a coalition of groups around the country who are providing alternatives.
- 21:55They're providing solutions for parents who want to get their kids out.
- 21:59There are a lot of emerging alternative models. I mean, home education really is the best.
- 22:07It's a very rewarding experience, as you well know.
- 22:12It's really the best mode. But there are other modes, other alternatives,
- 22:17like I said, new models that are emerging.
- 22:19You know, there's the one-room schoolhouse model that, you know,
- 22:23parents come together and they hire a teacher. They pool their resources,
- 22:27hire a teacher, and they teach, the teacher teaches several families.
- 22:31Of course, there's the homeschool co-ops where home education parents come together
- 22:38and share the responsibility of educating their children.
- 22:41And, you know, it gives them the social interaction that, you know,
- 22:46home education is always criticized about unsocialized children,
- 22:50which is just so ridiculous.
- 22:52But I think everybody understands that now. Wow. So, so, you know,
- 22:57there's still some that don't.
- 22:59Oh, yeah. They don't. They still say that, don't they? Yeah.
- 23:06So outside of that, as far as saving the other children, we would encourage
- 23:11parents and even taxpayers, think about it.
- 23:15People that love their freedom, because what's happening in government schools
- 23:19is an intentional agenda.
- 23:20We believe it is an agenda to change our form of government through the inside.
- 23:26And Mao did it. Hitler did it.
- 23:30They knew that if they captured the minds of children with their propaganda,
- 23:34that they could overthrow the current form of government.
- 23:39And they were successful in doing that. And so that's the agenda in our country.
- 23:43People need to understand that.
- 23:45If you love your freedom, whether you've got kids or grandkids in government
- 23:48schools or not, you need to understand that if you want to remain free,
- 23:53and that includes freedom of religion, you should get involved in this fight.
- 23:57We have got to stop the indoctrination of children in government schools or our freedom is at risk.
- 24:04So if people want to get involved, which I hope they will, I hope they'll understand
- 24:09the urgency of what's going on, They can go to our website, uspie.org. That's uspie.org.
- 24:18And there are a lot of good resources there. They can sign up to join the movement, we call it.
- 24:24When they do, we will send a couple of emails a week.
- 24:28I have a weekly podcast where I interview some amazing guests,
- 24:32experts on these topics.
- 24:35They can also get involved with a chapter in their state. We have about 15 chapters right now.
- 24:41We would definitely like to set up some more chapters.
- 24:44So if we don't currently have a chapter in their state, we can help them to set up a chapter.
- 24:52And this is what has to happen. And it needs to happen everywhere.
- 24:56It needs to happen in your community, in Colorado, in every community.
- 25:01We need to have people that are standing up to protect children and protect our country's freedom.
- 25:08Oh, that's so good. So, okay, so what would you tell, because I talk to parents
- 25:14all the time, I mean, that's what I do.
- 25:16Um, it's obviously what you do as well. Um, what do you tell the parent that's
- 25:21like, well, but my school's fine. Like it's small. It's not a big deal.
- 25:25Like it's not happening here.
- 25:28Right. I get that a lot. Um, everybody thinks that way. I think in,
- 25:33in the very, uh, left leaning States, you know, it's, it's probably pretty blatant and obvious.
- 25:39Um, but yeah, like in the state where I live in South Carolina,
- 25:42uh, in my own community, they don't think it's happening here either.
- 25:46And so, you know, about eight or 10 years ago, I researched 14 school districts
- 25:52in South Carolina and found critical race theory in every single school district.
- 25:58It's in the school district where I live. I went to an open forum with our school
- 26:03district superintendent, and he actually came to this event to assure people
- 26:09we didn't have critical race theory.
- 26:11And so during the Q&A period, he had mentioned that while they didn't have critical
- 26:17race theory, they had trained their teachers in culturally relevant pedagogy.
- 26:21Well, because I'd done research, I understood that that is critical race theory.
- 26:25So during Q&A, I confronted him and I said, with all due respect,
- 26:30that is critical race theory.
- 26:33He denied it, of course. And I said, well, then I'd love to see the training materials.
- 26:38And he said, just email me and I'll send it to you.
- 26:42So I emailed him and I got a response that said, you'll need to FOIA that information.
- 26:48So I like to tell parents, anytime you hear you'll have to FOIA it,
- 26:52they have something to hide.
- 26:54So I did FOIA the information, and some of it they refused to give me.
- 27:00I ended up suing them, which was a waste of money. But I was just adamant that, you know,
- 27:06they said that the slides that the professor from a local college,
- 27:10which I knew was the one, you know, teaching the critical race theory,
- 27:14she was training our teachers in it.
- 27:16Her slides, they wouldn't give me, they said they were proprietary,
- 27:19that because she owned them, they couldn't release them.
- 27:22And so I knew that was a violation of the law.
- 27:25But unfortunately, I learned from my lawyer that most judges rule with the government.
- 27:30So, you know, it was an uphill battle.
- 27:32But that's just an example for parents who think it's not in their schools.
- 27:37I live in a very red state and it's everywhere in our state.
- 27:42And it has been fairly covert, but we are starting to see more and more.
- 27:50Exposition of what's happening. Yeah. Yeah.
- 27:54Oh my goodness. Wow. That's amazing. All right. So what is our call to action here?
- 28:01Well, again, you know, parents have to get their kids out.
- 28:05You need to get involved. Educate yourself. I mean, your podcast,
- 28:10my podcast, then they, and by the way, they can find my podcast on our website
- 28:15as well. Again, that's USPIE.org.
- 28:19And so, you know, educate yourself so that you can have conversations with people
- 28:24in your community because you don't need to get involved by yourself.
- 28:27You need to organize a group of parents that will work together.
- 28:32And so, yeah, there are great resources out there. Again, Alex Newman's Liberty Sentinel.
- 28:40Alex has written a couple of fantastic books on this subject.
- 28:45He is also involved with Public School Exit, and they did a documentary.
- 28:50We have our documentary, Truth and Lies in American Education,
- 28:54also found on our website.
- 28:56So you could even host something in your home for some of your neighbors or,
- 29:01you know, community members and watch one of these films together.
- 29:05And then when you conclude the film, strategize and talk about,
- 29:10you know, what what can we do in our community to help fight?
- 29:15Because we do need a grassroots army across the country locking arms and fighting
- 29:23this. And this is the only way we're going to overcome this evil.
- 29:28Yeah, no, that's really good. I want to back up for a second.
- 29:32I think, you know, there's a couple...
- 29:37You know, different circumstances that I have come across over the years.
- 29:40And I feel like sometimes there's action that needs to happen,
- 29:45but parents are hesitant or their kids are hesitant, like, hey,
- 29:49don't make a big deal of what's happening in the school or, you know,
- 29:53don't speak out on this mom, like I'm going to be ostracized.
- 29:56And what would you kind of say to that parent that's struggling with,
- 29:59hey, I know I need to stand up for this truth.
- 30:01And they know deep down, like they need to, you know, be the whistleblower on
- 30:06something, but, but they're, they're just, you know, they're like,
- 30:11gosh, I don't want to be like that parent.
- 30:13I don't want to be that one in the news. And what would you say to that?
- 30:17Well, that's a good point. And I actually dealt with that with one of my sons.
- 30:23So both of my sons, well, I have three sons, two of them were built for football.
- 30:30My younger son played golf because he wasn't really built. Oh yeah.
- 30:35We love golf in this family. It's a great sport. But on the football team,
- 30:40I was irritated because, you know, my son was a freshman
- 30:44and I would go to pick him up from away games and the coach would walk off the bus with his dip bottle.
- 30:50So he'd been dipping on the bus in front of the students.
- 30:53Both of my sons who played football ended up dipping in high school and I was
- 30:58furious over it. So I reported it because, you know, it's not just a smoke-free
- 31:03campus. It's any kind of tobacco. They're not supposed to be doing that.
- 31:07And my son got blackballed.
- 31:10He never had any playtime on the football team. He was on the sidelines the whole time.
- 31:16So it is something. Yes. Yes.
- 31:20So there is retribution to the children, unfortunately. So, you know,
- 31:24but I think what parents have to do is obviously pray, pray about it,
- 31:30and do whatever it is the Holy Spirit's leading you to do, because it is challenging
- 31:35to stand up for what's right,
- 31:37in any realm, whether it's in the school with your children or in politics in
- 31:42your community if you want to stand up against abortion um.
- 31:47You often are ostracized in society, and especially now more than ever.
- 31:52I mean, on social media, you can take a bold, conservative Christian stand,
- 31:57and all of a sudden the left from out of nowhere is just slamming you.
- 32:01And so it is a challenge to be outspoken about what is right and what is good and what is true.
- 32:09So I would think that if parents pray about it and they feel the Lord leading
- 32:14them, I would think that they would be setting a good example for their children of standing up despite,
- 32:22the fallout that may come behind it.
- 32:26And we know that Jesus put up with a lot of criticism, a lot of harassment,
- 32:33a lot of lies. And what did he do?
- 32:36He kept his mouth shut and just kept right on doing what was right.
- 32:39Yeah, that's right. That's right. That integrity piece is kind of lost in our culture today.
- 32:46And we live in such a public culture where everything is recorded,
- 32:53everything is posted, and it just blows up so easily.
- 32:59And I think there's good and bad in that because we're accountable to our actions, for one.
- 33:05But we also can't do anything really and to expect it to stay,
- 33:10you know, private or small if we're really making a stand. But I agree with
- 33:15you. I think that, you know, really, we probably need to...
- 33:20Expect the repercussion, expect the hits to come and go into it knowing like,
- 33:27hey, this is going to be really hard, but I know I'm doing the right thing.
- 33:30I know I'm standing up for truth, for what is lovely and beautiful and biblical.
- 33:39And we have to stand firm in that. And I think if we can't do that on these
- 33:45issues of education, then are we really able to stand up for Christ if the time comes?
- 33:53So I think it is, you know, really practicing that boldness in every aspect of our life.
- 33:57And it has to, you know, if we really are standing for the Lord,
- 34:01we have to see that trickle down in every single corner of our life.
- 34:08So I think that's good. I really agree with you there. And you know,
- 34:11scripture tells us over and over again, in fact, I underline it every time I
- 34:15see it in my Bible, to be bold and courageous, you know?
- 34:20Like a lion, bold as a lion. Yep. Yeah, we're not living in times where we can
- 34:24just kind of hide under a rock and go, la la la, it's not happening, it's fine.
- 34:28We're living in times that we've got to pick a side and we've got to stand firm.
- 34:33And I think that's always been the case, but we see it even more now.
- 34:37And it's, you know, I jokingly say, hey, it's not the 90s anymore,
- 34:42but you are fighting in the 90s.
- 34:44So I mean, it's just, so I appreciate that.
- 34:48And I, you know, appreciate people such as yourself that have gone ahead of
- 34:53us. And I think of Michael Ferris, you know, he went ahead of us and just paved
- 34:58the way legally for so many rights to homeschoolers.
- 35:02And that's just, it's such a beautiful thing that, you know,
- 35:06our generation of parents don't have to fight as hard in certain aspects,
- 35:11but other aspects is now it's our time to fight.
- 35:13It's our time to stand up now for what's going on. And I, Oh,
- 35:17I love the, the building is burning.
- 35:20Um, and we got our own kids out, but going back and it's.
- 35:24It's just this epiphany. As you said that, I'm like, oh, my goodness,
- 35:27that's me. That's been my heart in everything I've done because so many people
- 35:32are probably like, hey, stay out of it.
- 35:34You're homeschooling. Like, why do you care? It's like because it's on fire
- 35:38and there's more kids to rescue. That's 100 percent my heart without fully like.
- 35:43Adopting that quote. But now I'm like, yeah, that's totally,
- 35:46totally me. So I love that so much.
- 35:50Well, you use that quote because I use it all the time, and Alex will be glad that we did.
- 35:56He's such a great guy. If you haven't interviewed him yet, I know he would be a great interview.
- 36:02I wrote it down. I wrote it down. Good, good, good. Wonderful.
- 36:06Now, what is the name of your podcast?
- 36:09My podcast is titled Unmasking Government Schools with Sherry Few. I love it.
- 36:14Yeah, so we're pulling the curtain back and showing what's happening that parents
- 36:19aren't aware of. We have experts. We have, you know, organizations like Defending
- 36:25Education. They come on quarterly to fill us in on what they're doing.
- 36:29They do FOIA requests of schools all over the country and are just digging up
- 36:34all kinds of dirt and publishing reports on it.
- 36:38So they come on regularly. I have Alex on a couple times a year,
- 36:42Sam Sorbo, Carol Swain's coming on. I saw her book. She's coming on in November.
- 36:50And a lot of these people are in our film, Truth and Lies in American Education.
- 36:55And even though the film is six or seven years old, it's still very relevant today.
- 37:00We were kind of on the cutting edge of the critical race theory and all of that
- 37:04when it first started being exposed. So that's another good resource for parents
- 37:09if they're interested in learning.
- 37:11That's awesome. Oh my goodness, Sherry, I have had a blast with you.
- 37:15Thank you so much for just really...
- 37:19Encouraging us and educating us on what's going on. And I think.
- 37:26The building is burning. It's on fire, guys. We have very little time.
- 37:31And my kids have only had a couple years of government education, praise Jesus.
- 37:40It was kind of like in the middle. We started out on homeschool,
- 37:43and then we moved, and we're like, oh, it's fine. It's a little mountain town.
- 37:47We kind of had that like, it'll be fine philosophy.
- 37:51And it wasn't.
- 37:55But even those couple years, we still see kind of the project cleanup of, wait, who told you that?
- 38:03Wait, why do you have that belief? Or why do you have that mindset on that topic or whatever it is?
- 38:08And it's crazy how much sneaks in when they're so young and just sponges and
- 38:15how much they absorb that, man, man, it matters.
- 38:21If you guys care at all, and you should, of what your kids are being taught
- 38:27and believing and what's imprinting on their heart, then you've got to pull them out.
- 38:31So yeah. Amen.
- 38:35Well, Sherry, it's been an honor. Guys, go to her website, uspi.org.
- 38:42Check out her podcast on masking government schools. And it's so good having
- 38:48you on. I'm sure we'll have you back.
- 38:51And I really appreciate getting to speak with you today. Thank you, Sherry.
- 38:55Absolutely, Hannah. I appreciate you having me on and I thank you for all the
- 38:59good work you're doing. Oh, thank you. You as well.
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