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625 - Hot industry gossip, scary British villains, and Strymon level up. · Chasing Tone - Guitar Podcast About Gear, Effects, Amps and Tone

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or good night.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Here we're along with my co-host uh Richard Oliver and uh Blake Wyland and back.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you guys all tuning into the show this week.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for hanging out.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: Why have you turned into a quiet 1950s radio announcer?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: What have you been smoking this week, bro?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: Shh, I don't do that stuff.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: Smoking?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean smoking then?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: Smoking is the best thing for your health, according to the 1950s Doctor Society of smoking.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_04: Camel cigarettes are recommended by nine out of ten doctors.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh if you Google the word super, you get some really funky looking Mahindra Supro vans.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna let you know that.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, all right.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't know it was a thing.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what's going on this week, guys?
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Anything exciting happening?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Man, there's a big thing going on, dude.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's a big thing going on.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is it going?
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not gonna say it.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's the big thing that's going on?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: There's an industry merger happening right now as we speak.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: So this is what JHS have tweeted, no, posted about.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_04: You know, this is gonna be really weird because by the time this releases, the information will be out.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_04: That is true.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll be speculating live on this podcast, but by the time people hear it, they'll already know, and then they can laugh at us.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, dumbasses.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: We could just leave a blank bit here and go, Well, we know for certain that the two companies that are merging are and and there we go.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: Let's fix the problem for us.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we can fix it in post.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: I did not think that would become the CEO of, but there you have it.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_04: Can you believe that they settled it via fist fight?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: I can.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was arm wrestling.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, both.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_04: It's a multi-stage thing.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Left arm, arm wrestling, right hand fist fighting.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's the Martinsville way.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's how we do it here in Morgan County, yep, sure.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: So do either of you have any information about what Mr HS is teasing us with.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_04: I I genuinely do not.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh this is this is dropping on me just the same as everybody else.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_04: So I I I was originally thinking, okay, who is who has he done some collabs with?
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_04: Well, EHX is the most obvious one.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_04: But then I realized after I texted you guys that, that he blurred the I didn't thought about it, but he in the announcement video where he announced that he's going to announce something, he blurred whatever product it was.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_04: So it it hasn't come out yet.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_04: So we actually don't know who the collaborator he is speaking of because the product seems like it hasn't been released as as of this current moment.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_04: So I I could be anybody.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I do have a narrowed list of who it could be, actually.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready?
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's either Keeley Electronics, Cusac Music, Boston Roland, Milkman, Electro Harmonics, Ross, Third Man Hardware, Bilt Guitars, Copper Sound, Mixed Wave, Tone Junkie, Benson Amps, or Stumac.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: You've just listed every single independently owned pedal company.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: Haven't you?
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's everyone that's ever worked with with JHS.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, it could be those guys or somebody else that we have hitherto unfigured out.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_04: It could be those those companies.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like if it was Benson, I would have information.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_04: You probably would know, yeah.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering if it's if it's like um, I don't know.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it like he says pedal company specifically, so that kind of eliminates Milkman and Benson and Mixwave.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Might be copper sound, but they've been doing really good with the DIY stuff, I think.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Surely it's not like surely electroharmonics, well, maybe electroharmonics bought someone.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say, if it's electroharmonics and they're getting merged with something, the only one big enough to do that is boss.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I don't see Mike Matthews doing that.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_00: See that happening.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: Milkban, maybe didn't they make pedals?
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_04: They do, but it's mostly like uh amp pedals.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_04: Everyone makes pedals these days, Bries.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's Rob.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's not Keely, I don't think.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: I heard it was uh Oliver FX and Wampler Pedals.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: I heard they were merging to create are you are you buying us?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oliver Effects.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just write some zeros real quick on the amount that I want to uncheck.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: I want 0.001 cent.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's some numbers in front of those zeros, but um I don't know.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: Mixed wave is just plugins, so stuff then built guitars, it's not guitars, third man hardware, maybe they do a variety of things, but mostly pedals, I think.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um the blurred thing wasn't yellow.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's Ross, but Ross just didn't know I don't think it's Ross because he gave up the Ross brand.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a red herring.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: And Ross have just started releasing their own pedals again.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Electro Harmonics is the one that everyone keeps circling back on.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: And Mike Matthews is getting old.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: He is, but it doesn't seem like he's given up that ship.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_04: That doesn't seem like his vibe.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_04: He's had many opportunities to give up that ship.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: He seems like the type of guy that dies in his office chair.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: Spoken like a true workaholic.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a bad thing.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's it, like he's just hardcore, full of grit, even at his age, man.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's he's a pretty awesome business guy, actually.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_04: I don't let's let's go through that l.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't have that list in front of me, but uh let's hit that again.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_04: Let's sp the speculation.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_04: Probably not.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right, probably not no, he's just invested in some new stuff.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_02: You wouldn't do that right before like merging.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: That would be mental.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: And QSAC has bought companies before.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, but I don't see I don't see John actually you know merging with someone else.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see that.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not boss and rolling, they're not merging with anybody.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't think so.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's like Apple merging with Microsoft or something.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um Milkman.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_04: Probably not.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_04: So he did say pedal company specifically.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um Ross, we already said no.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Third man.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: Built guitars, not guitar pedals.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Copper sound.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I wonder if it's copper sound.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Copper sound is good.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_04: What did JHS and Copper Sound do together?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_04: I don't remember.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh short circuit kits.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, hold on, hold on.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: See, I've got a couple of I'm using the chat for tree.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's a little inactive.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's apparently it's just DIY stuff, so I guess they didn't do any pedal stuff.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_04: I'm pulling up the uh I'm pulling up the video again, see if I can screenshot blurred image.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and and on Reddit, they are saying they think EHX and potentially Cortec, i.e.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_02: the Court guitar factory, because CoreTec own Digitec uh Digitech DOD.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: And apparently EHX has been perpetually for sale and is like a$30 million company.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: If you're Mike, you're like, yeah, I'll sell if the numbers right.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_04: I think any of those fellows would think that.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_04: The pedal that is blurred, it's almost impossible to see, but it's wide.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a regular pedal width.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_04: I know it is a regular pedal width.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's a regular pedal width, but it's it's kind of blueish.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_04: Are you saying perspective?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like a blues driver?
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's a blues driver.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's not a regular pedal size.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: It is no.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, I look at pedals all day long.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: That is slightly.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and what what are we thinner?
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: I tell you now, that was thinner.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: That looks fat.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: So it could be Ross or or it could be EHX, because EHX pedaling closures are not standard to anything except EHX pedaling closures.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: This is a use for AI.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_04: I should send this image to AI and say, defuzz this.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, that's a good but you know what?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have to fuck because I know you don't have any AI.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: Send it to Brian first, who is As I say, I've got eight windows open right now.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, read on it.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: And you probably know which one to send it to, so I'm gonna send it to you.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Listeners, let me tell you, earlier I was at a screen sharing session with with Brian, and he let his browser minimize, and I got to see the desktop of Brian Wampler.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure if you could fit another icon on it.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, it was icons on top of icons on my desk, buddy.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, wow.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_04: And let's keep in mind, we've mentioned it a million times, Brian's monitor is 17 feet wide, full of icons.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: I've got two of them.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: I counted 16,556 icons across his screen.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then I showed him the stacks in Apple, and he was like, How do I do this magic?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I couldn't remember.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh right.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I texted you the the the screenshot of the blurry pedal, okay, Brian.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: See what your robots can do with it.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see what we're gonna do here.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is live on the air.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: Someone someone here has said that they think it could be MXR and EHX, which would make meh effects.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think so because MXR is part of Dunlop.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't see that happening.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_04: Redan also seems to think that uh John Cusack is a billionaire, and I know he's done well for himself, but I don't think he is a pedal billionaire.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, a lot of people are speculating that it is Cusack, but I don't think that's a Cusack move.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Cusack is engineer in the background for as many people as he can.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: He's not and manufacturer, oftentimes.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_04: I think that what I noticed a trend, maybe this is carries across industries, possibly.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_04: Once you have bought publicly bought or merged anything, everyone automatically suspects that you're gonna do it again.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_04: So for a long time, when these topics would come up, it would be QSAC that was in the conversation, and Creation Music Company would be in that conversation because ironically, they're both John's, although spelled different.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_04: Uh John over at Creation bought a cup bought slash merged with a couple smaller manufacturers, and uh so he got a reputation as somebody that does that early on, and people just automatically assume that you're gonna keep doing that.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_04: And maybe that's true sometimes, but I I don't in this industry, it doesn't feel like that many companies who aren't explicitly designed for acquisitions just do that all the time.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_04: It's not like you see pedal one pedal company just gobbling up all the pedal companies.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_04: It's not really a thing that happens often.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_04: So I I get why why people would think, oh, well KSAC's bought companies before, maybe he'll do it again.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_04: But I don't know.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I I'm gonna say something on this episode that's gonna lead me to uh eat some crow tomorrow morning, I'm sure.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Crow is really good, especially with ketchup.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, good to know.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: There was a thread on the gear page which has been pulled.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that makes me think someone got close.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: Can we can we uh go back to the um uh the way back machine with the way back machine?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: Find that thread?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure that works properly anymore.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_04: It was a little bit last time I used it, but it did work.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, crap! Crap! Crap!
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_04: Frip! Friggin' idiot, doesn't even work.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I think you're getting some funny results over there, Brian.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: AI is so for some things, this this stuff is so bad.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like laugh laughably bad.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm waiting on I'm waiting on the final one from Claude Fable 5, actually.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I don't know what that means, but all right.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't know.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's like the crazy model that they had to pull a few weeks ago because people were using it for nefarious reasons.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: The White House said.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: The White House said.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was a whole thing in the news, yeah.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: What were they doing?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Refereeing football matches.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, apparently.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, uh the White House administration found out that you can actually use AI to um you know to write you know scripts and Trojans and stuff like that, and that's dangerous.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know you can write software with that?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what Google, what is vibe coding?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: That is whenever you decide to.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Serious question.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_04: So you're on X right now.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um let me ask you both a question.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: When was the last time either of you had a virus that destroyed anything valuable?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I was I was sick about a month ago and it definitely destroyed me for a few days.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_04: Well, that's not valuable, so that doesn't count.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, wow.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_04: What about my family?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_04: Because it got them too.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: They're valuable.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're more valuable than you times a million.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's true.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, seriously, though, when was the last time anyone ever had a computer virus that uh crippled their computer?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I remember the first computer viruses because I'm that old.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can tell you, but it was like before I started using Apple.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I started using Apple.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's like honestly, the virus software industry is just there for three PC users who refuse to move to Apple.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_04: I see, I hate to be this guy, but taking over from a PC user and all the problems that he would he was experiencing, and now I'm doing them on a Mac, and I don't have any of those problems.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_04: Little dumb things that just like, oh, well, if you try to paste it over here, it'll glitch out and put it over here.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I'm just I just don't see that.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like multi-cut and paste on a Mac is just so damn good.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like being able to like go between your phone and your Mac without any hassle.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: Love it.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: Makes makes anyway.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: This is not a technology podcast.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is a guitar.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: So so to uh to fill everyone in on my results with the AI.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, here's what I found out.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll leave the best for last, the actual true answer.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because I should probably actually send these to you guys because you will lose your crapola.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I love doing that.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um I can't wait.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know everyone's like, this is a terrible podcast.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have to post these.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, watch it.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'll should post these on Patreon so our patrons can see it.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh so one of them they're coming through right now.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: One of them, the one that made me laugh out loud at a point where Blake looked at me like, what are you laughing about?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: They put the our catacombs in Josh's hands.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, so yeah, that was oh man, this is this is this is meme territory.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_04: This is V territory.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: I could download high-res versions for you guys too much.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm gonna take back what I said, by the way, because the blurring is bigger than the pedal blur.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I know.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, you didn't explain that to me.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: I just saw a picture in your eyes.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like I don't look at pedals all day, too.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: And then the other one, it just made you've only got one eye, so I couldn't trust it.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And Jim and I just made up a pedal completely.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: I made the ChronoFuzz from Resonance Pedals.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm not gonna lie.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: The Chronophuss.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: So they just made one up.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then Fable Five said, Yeah, any AI that's giving you an image is basically just hallucinating because this type of blur, you it just destroys all the information.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: You can't you can't skill it anyway.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_04: I kind of figured if Josh was posting it, he probably thought that through.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: I can make a couple of wild assumptions here, right?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because I like nothing more than wild assumptions.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: That looks like a two-knob pedal with a white logo on it.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: It kind of does, doesn't it?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that could be an MXR pedal.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: It could be.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: But equally it could be anything, because I'm making wild assumptions, and that white logo, that could just be the foot switch.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_04: It looks like a white knob in the upper right hand corner, doesn't it?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's not a very nice thing to say about Josh.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_04: Hey.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Josh, I don't know you and I've just insulted you.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: Apologies.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: Josh is a fair.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Good.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, look, I look forward to us being wrong tomorrow.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_04: We could we probably need to stop stop speculating.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: We've already stopped the wild.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: We've done it enough.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it is fun.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_04: But I don't know what else to speculate on.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_04: It could be NASA's merging with the Swedish government.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_04: The aliens.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: It could be the oh no, I'm not gonna make political football jokes.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: I've already done that.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh right.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: What else have we got going on this week?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what you mean political football jokes.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_04: I've been riding around the sand dunes.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_04: I don't have time for political jokes.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there was a whole thing with the with the what we call soccer.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh basically Yeah, let's not talk about that.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh okay, fine.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_04: Fair fine, fair enough.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'm confused.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, you know.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Since we last spoke, Bri, um, because me and Blake touched on this because we recorded about three days ago.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but I went and collected the next batch of Oliver FX purple on pedals, and I screwed them all together at the place where they're built, tested, screwed together, etc.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I had a callus flap off my hand.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that's right.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: And tell everyone what tool you use to continuously screw something together over and over and a screwdriver, Brian.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: You said you had a manual screwdriver.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, it was an electric screwdriver.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's why when you sent it to me, I was like, Yeah, I've already got one of those, Bri.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: That didn't help.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: It still caused my callus to come off.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: How did you get a callus from an electric okay?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: I misread you then.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I thought you said manual.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: No, the calluses exist from weightlifting.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I have tiny calluses, there's one there on the palm of my hand from weightlifting.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: Of course you do.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Blake's showing me his hand, which is basically one giant callus.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, you might have got this working on the uh on the on the tools, Bri.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: I got a friend who's also called Ollie, and he was uh like a tradesman.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: When he shook his hand, it was like shaking like a 300 grit sandpaper.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: It was insane.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: People who work with tools get properly gnarly hands.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: You do.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I it took me a long time and lots of hand lotion to get mine back soft.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why you got that large delivery of hand lotion, right?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's why the gallon jug right here, buddy.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: You got damn soft hands, brother.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know what a hard day's neighbor is.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, you got them soft hands, brother.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: But it's true, you know how you always read, like, yeah, your hands are so soft, you've never done a hard day.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like when I shook my mate Ollie's hands, I was like, Oh, I feel so inadequate here.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: But yes, I went and I collected the next piece.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_07: You say, Well, well, feel my fingertips.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_07: I got I've got calluses on my fingertips from my keyboard.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_04: We've talked about this before.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_04: What's really weird, I get I I obviously had more gnarly hands when I was a mechanic.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: Of course I did.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_04: Well, um, I never have developed actual calluses on my fingertips from playing guitars.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_04: The skin is a bit thicker.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_04: Really not a bigger one.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: Can I ask you a question?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Have you actually tried playing a guitar using your fingertips?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, maybe that's where the problem is.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: I reckon you're just flapping on those strings with the pads of your fingers, not the tips.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: I I I mean, the skin is definitely thicker on my left hand fingers than my right hand, but there's no actual callus.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_04: But yet I get calluses on my palms from weightlifting.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's really weird.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I th I I'm the same.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like my skin on my fingers is now really thick, like on the tips, but it doesn't actually form like the hard calluses that it used to when I was younger.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I wonder people still have the hard calluses.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really get it.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: Mine just feels leathery.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: Brian?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: What does yours what does yours feel like, Brian?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Bran, Brian, what's your fingertips feel like?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I still have calluses on my hands, but I still do stuff like on the weekends.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean on your fingertips from playing.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I mean, yeah, my hand my fingertips are really pretty rough, actually.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're so rough that I can grab a hot pan and like it doesn't really burn me.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't feel it that much.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: You may actually have nerves.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_04: Like a 400-degree pan, but I mean like Yeah, I was gonna say that I think that is called nerve damage.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna say you might want to see someone about that.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, you know, like you it's just I don't have the sensitivity in my fingers that that um I did before playing guitar.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Sensitivity in your fingers is overrated anyway.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just from the calluses from playing, but also I bend a lot too.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think that has a big difference on calluses.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a lot more tension on on the little thin pokey strings.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Not the ones that are around like the sissy strings.
• 21:56
  unknown: You know?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I want to slip into my next.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Subject here, but I won't.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I will say this four springs, silver sky trim, you'd be amazed at what that feels like without any strings pulling on it.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: When I restring my silver sky, which I'll talk about in a minute, I could not really move that trim without really bending the trim arm.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Those strings added a load of extra reverse relief on that tremolo.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but back to my purple om fuzz from Oliver FX.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, back to it?
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't start on it.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: I bought a load more, Bright, and uh, you know, I've built them and I've tested them, and they're now ready to be shipped out to wonderful customers.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Are you are you signing these?
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're all signed, they're all doodled, but whilst I was signing them, my special doodling pen fell apart and I got white paint everywhere.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: So someone someone got a a signature and a drawing with two different colours then.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, someone's got a bit of a blurry drawing, and someone's gonna get the special silver pen editions.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, those are gonna be ran out.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Those are gonna be the uh the valuable ones, you know.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: A silver pen.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I gotta say, I don't know whether either of you guys have seen the video from Tom Quayle yet, but um he did a video for my pedal, and I was blown away by the beautiful, wonderful human he is and the lovely things he said about my pedal.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you did you paid him, didn't you?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: I did not pay.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: I gave him a pedal and said he said nice things about you, like without being paid.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Without compensation?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't even tell him not, you know, not to say the normal.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Did he know you that well though?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously not, because he kept saying how wonderful I was.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess I need to send a couple more out to a couple of like big guitar influencers.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't know who to send them to.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Who do I know?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: What two people do I know that could do big guitar influences to be fair?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: That that's not a bad show.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, I was thinking more transatlantic influencers.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: People across in America, there's two of them.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: They may be on a podcast.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on, let me chat GPT this real quick.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: Jared James Nichols and uh Music is Win.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: They're on a podcast.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: There you go, yeah.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: I saw a video of um Oh Rhett Show and Rat Shoal Dipped in Tone.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: What's the other fellow's name on there?
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that escaping me?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: Zach Broy.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Zach, yes, yes, yep.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Mythos petals.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Mythos.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: My favorite beer, by the way, at the moment.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Mythos Petals.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: Mythos beer.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, wait, you can't change subjects yet.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, uh.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_04: I can.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: I have a guitar-related subject that is also Merica.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are we done with Oliver then?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_04: I think we are done with Oliver.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: Good, yeah, heck.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_04: Sucks.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_04: I did something I haven't done in a very, very, very long time on the Fourth of July.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_04: Brushed your teeth?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_04: No, I do that twice daily.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not British.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_04: But of course.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: I resemble that comment.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: Uh I played acoustic guitar around a campfire with other guitarists.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Off now.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Off the pod.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: With other guitarists.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, and they were and they, you know what?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_04: The audience requested that we do such things.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't a Wonder Wall around the campfire moment.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Was the audience uh a group of um school children, maybe with I don't know.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was mostly experienced middle-aged women musically as well.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh what?
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_04: It was what?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't hear you.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_04: Mostly middle-aged women, actually.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Or or as me and Brian like to refer to them women.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's like really old people, like in their 40s.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Really old.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Really old people.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_04: Next month I'm gonna be 38, and my wife is.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'm getting old, man.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_04: 30.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_04: I consider my myself approaching the middle age.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_04: So wow, yeah.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: What did you play?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_04: We played a lot of different country stuff, but uh so we had three acoustic guitars and one really good singer who took most of the no those duties, obviously, not me.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_04: And then uh my dad and myself.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_04: And they were most mostly just both playing the rhythm.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: So I found myself in a strange situation where I'm like, well, I can't just strum along.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: That'd be three guitars strumming along for no reason.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: So I was just playing noodly leads the whole time.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_04: I was just playing.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to be tasteful.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_04: I was just playing.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I'm not sure.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_02: Could you just do that but again?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: How did it go?
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like that.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: Jazz.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_04: It was it was very jazzy.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_04: There were some jazzy moments as I attempted to find which key we were in, for sure.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: I know what key we're in.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm playing jazz.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: If you play the wrong note, play it again.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's jazz.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's very simple.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I just kind of I took the lead role, which is not something that I typically do, and I just played along, and uh it was a really nice way to wind down the 4th of July.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh did you down tune your acoustic?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: Did that work?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_04: This acoustic, uh, I mean, it was my grand grandpa's acoustic that he has up there just sitting in his upstairs.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_04: It's a nice Takamini, actually.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_04: But um man, if only he knew somebody that could get him some fresh strings on that thing.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_04: Too bad he doesn't know anybody that can do that.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um Ernie Ball sells really good strings.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Ernie Ball's a great company.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's too bad he knows nobody that could hook him up with a set of strings.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: And uh, I know someone who knows the Dario.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: I like those GHS GHS boomers.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I gotta get him over, I gotta go back over there and change his strings for him.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_04: I like Amazon value strings, they're really good.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I do wonder where those come from.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh interesting.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: They come from um gentleman called Brian Wahampler.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Wahampler.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's a string company.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_04: I started on the side, you know.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_04: You heard how massively pop profitable and easy it was, so you decided to do it.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just bought a sewing machine.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: I figured I'd just use this to make a string because spin it around.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you joked, but one of our patrons and moderators and all-round great Viking, Mr.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna say it properly, Vida Fušteed.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's right.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't it?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: I think it probably is.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, it's not.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, he's made a little pickup winding machine um out of uh, I think, like maybe it was bits of a sewing machine, or maybe that was one of the other mods.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's the classic way to do it.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they sell them now, little like like little sewing machine, or not sewing machine, but pickup winding kits.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-oh, I feel a course coming on, gentlemen.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've actually you say that I've actually talked to people, a few people are doing that.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the problem with the pickup winding course is like the first bit's fine.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: You you set up the like the plastic trays and you put the bobbins in, and then for the next nine hours, it's just wind one, wind two, wind three.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: And this come back next month for the conclusion of this.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: For wind 900.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh going back to the silver sky.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember I said to you guys how I would loved the guitar, but I was a bit weirded out by the fact that it didn't seem to stay in tune, and then you mocked me for not stretching the brand new guitar uh strings.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: And you deserved it, but that's fine.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: I did deserve it.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: But a couple of other people reached out and said, actually, I noticed a few issues.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they need to stretch their strings.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: They said you might want to try dropping down from tens to nines, and you might want to try sticking what?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: See, I would think the other way.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, because the nut was kind of gripping the string.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so what I did was I got my fret files in there, yeah, and I took my nut file like one size above what a nine was.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: So for a 42, I used a 46 file, and I filed those away just very lightly, put some nut sauce in there.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean the real stuff, not some joke, yeah, and put the nines in, and guess what?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Fixed it completely.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever thought about just using petroleum jelly on the nut?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, just lubricate it.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, I haven't, Brian.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um works great.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Graphite is preferred.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: I did use to use pencils.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: I did use to use pencils because graphite is a good lubricant.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: But no, I like the nut sauce because you get a syringe and you get to feel like some kind of scientist as you have a little bitty needle-like little thing.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, makes you feel good, doesn't it?
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: Almost none, but it makes a world of difference.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and also they they give you like five mil for about a thousand pounds.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like they are literally laughing at you.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: The makers of nut sauce, they are making a fortune.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: Bri.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_02: There's a business.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: A course on how to make a nut sauce.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: First, start out with 400 pencils.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Step two, grind.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: Grind.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_04: You remember in first grade when you'd go to the pencil sharpener that was mounted to the bench and you'd grind it all the way down to where it was just at the eraser for some reason?
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna do that 700 times.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: Simpler and better times, I'm just gonna say.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Those were good pencil sharpeners.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: Underrated.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: Which ones did you have?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have the electric ones that you just pushed up?
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they weren't.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, those ones weren't as good.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: The mechanical We never had electric ones.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we I mean you might have been in prison.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, that was it back in 1950.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: In England, we had luxury pencil sharpeners at the posh school, but at the cheaper school, then yeah, for sure.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: What were they named?
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like Eric?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_04: It was like a kid with in the corner with Nigel.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Nigel.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: Nigel the sharpener.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good name.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_06: I must take my pencil to the sharpener, boy.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_06: He will make it a fine point for me, and I can do my lunch, girl.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Sharpen my pencil.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: I've been to a hungry museum.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Can you beat that?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: Sharpen my pencil! Sharpen my pencil, I'll shut you up the chimney again.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: It does sound vaguely threatening, threatening, doesn't it?
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Don't make me sharpen my pencil on you, boy.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that does sound that sound like sounds kind of scary.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'll give you a right good scribbling.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: Man, you sound like a British villain.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_04: You do.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_04: You'd be a good British villain.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: That's good.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: I can't be a career in the arts.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: I would be a good villain except for one thing.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: I am scared of everything that moves.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Lightly.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but you just have to sound like you're not, so it doesn't matter.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Incidentally, um people talk about climate change.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: We're having a second summer heat wave again here in England.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's unprecedented.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's like three years' worth of you've got to buy a uh uh an air conditioner.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: My daughter has conceded with you, Bri.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: She is now attempting to purchase a mobile air conditioning unit.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: Guess what?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: Cannot buy one for love nor money in England right now.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they are.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: What voltage do you run out there, Bri?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, I mean, that's one Tim, but all you have to do is take the voltage from your wall, take two equal resistors, run the signal through one resistor, another one to ground.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: You get half the voltage, it'll work just fine.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, never do that.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm joking.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Don't ever that sounds like a really safe thing to do with a mains voltage that involves never do that.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_04: That would kill you I take the power out of the wall, I use myself as a ground.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm basically just a big capacitor if you think about it.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can store all kinds of energy.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: In her quest to find this mythical air conditioning unit, she said, Hey Dad, do you think buying one off TMU or Wish is a good idea?
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: I said, darling, they have very different electrical standards, let alone voltages in those countries.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Not really that really wouldn't.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: You don't really want to cheap out on like electric highway, I mean high voltage main stuff.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something that's using high voltage and a liquid refrigerant needs to be safe, I would say.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I would re-emphasize that for any listeners thinking about it.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know what's really great?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_04: As a guy who just had to uh replace his heat pump and air conditioning situation.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's really great that our government decided, you know what, this refrigerant that we were using before, you know how it's like not flammable, really?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: It's like a little flammable, but it's not that flammable.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna replace it with one that's like really flammable and make everyone use it now.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: That's what we're gonna do.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: Great.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: Sounds sounds sensible.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the irony about air conditioning, it's warming the planet.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: How do you how do you wrangle with that conundrum?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's where heat pumps come in.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but where do they pump the heat?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: There's a there's another solution to this actually.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh do you guys know about this?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so in Indiana, there's a lot of Amish communities.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: And one way that they do this is they actually dig underground, put a big pipe underground and run the, you know, other like the other end.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's basically one the it's how I explain this.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's a big pipe underground with two elbows that go up.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: One of the elbows goes into the house, the other elbow is you know 50 feet away or whatever.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because of the air being drawn in, drawn in from uh you know through the ground, it cools it and so it keeps your house cool.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_04: See, now that is a sensible idea.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_04: I mean that's kind of similar, not exactly, but it's a similar concept to like the Earth ship houses.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_04: Have you seen those?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_04: Same chart built into the hillsides and they stay cool.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: And they're doing that in the desert typically.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, it's like the dirt's like almost 55 degrees or whatever.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, a fan will heat your room up.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: Basically, it is a small electric motor that is gonna generate heat.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, hmm.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: I I like the idea of the uh Amish pipes.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if I can import that into the UK.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: Problem is, is the UK's quite small, so you would literally be running them under everybody else's house.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: How do I run this under the house?
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like their problem.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: It does sound like their problem.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: I like it.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um just burrow under your neighbor's house.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't got a jackhammer, I've got a jackass.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Does that count?
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, sure.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_04: I'm following a lady on Instagram right now who's like building a tunnel under her house.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_04: And uh wait a minute.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Is this lady living in 1963 Vietnam?
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_04: No, she is she's in, I think, Michigan.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_04: But she had to like the same thing.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, people in Michigan.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_04: But uh it's it's actually pretty fascinating.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_04: I wish I could remember her name off the top of my head.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_04: It's she's going through like the actual permitting process, and it's like she's showing all the steps she's taking to make this like tunnel system, and it's pretty awesome.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: So fun loop or loophole in British law.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh obviously, if you buy a piece of land, you only have you know X amount of square foot, but you can go down as far as you want.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: You own the land all the way down through to the core.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I've often considered building myself.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Don't build down that.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Don't build up exactly.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: Trouble is, is it's quite difficult to build down Bri unless you're a mold.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_04: I know a guy, lots of shovels involved, who dug out his own basement under his existing house.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, like one bucket at a time.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: I know a guy did that too.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as a kid.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love to do that.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: I I would love a house with a basement, number one.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's something you get very commonly in America.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: You used to get it in the Victorian times in England, but since the turn of the last century, pretty much no houses have been built with basements here because they just become very cold and damp and full of poo.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds like you need a basement.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's what you need right now.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds exactly like what I need.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, English friends with buckets and spades.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: Please, please give me a call.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Three Oliver pedals will be arriving at the end.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: We'll give you a free Oliver pedal.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: I am thinking about doing a giveaway at some point, but that's another story.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, how much is the world's most advanced delay pedal worth to you guys?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_04: Depends on how crazy you want to get.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_04: I uh I like the LVX a lot, and I would consider that to be possibly the world's most advanced delay pedal.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's around six.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: How much is our delay pedal?
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: 269.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: 299.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: 299?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: 299 for Catacombs or Metaverse.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: This is the best one, right?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's about yeah, that's about right.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that sounds about right, Bri.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Problem solved.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: I do like that one.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: Now, if it was a dual delay in a single enclosure with a looper, would you pay a little bit more than 299?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: That you're talking about Del VX at this point.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's uh no, I'm talking about the all-new Strymon uh Timeline MX.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's just being released today.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Timeline Motocross, I love that one.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh multi-delay workstation with a retail price of$679.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't know about you chaps.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love the the the look of this pedal.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: I love everything I know about Stryman.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's amp money to me.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when you think of it above 500 bucks, like a true tape echo can be pretty pricey up there too, though.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's yeah, you know, if you buy a space echo or whatever, you could be paying loads of money.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_02: But again, you'd have to be a real nerd to spend that much money on a pedal.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait a minute, Bri, cover up all those pedals behind you.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, this is pretty cool.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_04: This is pretty cool.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: It is like like so for the listeners, it has an all-new layout display, three buttons, you know, familiar strime and look and feel, but it does run two engines that are independently panable and positionable.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: So you can choose where they're 50 small blocks.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: What kind of engine you got that, Bub?
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: I've got a 420 Hemi C and it's running on nitro.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, baby, baby.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_04: I got a I got a board and stroke LS over here that we got twin turbochargers on.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: I've got a Mazda Wankel rotary engine.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_04: Now we're talking.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh hey, I learned something new the other day, changing subject.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was watching Buck Rogers in the 25th sub century.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: We'll come back to the start the timeline because it's related.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the show Buck Rogers, Bri?
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: I remember it, yeah.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: In episode two, he makes reference to what I've now learned is a common American manufacturer of encyclopedia.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: He says that isn't in your funkin' walla.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not gonna lie, it sounded a lot more sweary than easy.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: A little derogative.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Jill, did you just swear?
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I had to re-wind, and it sounds very much like it.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_04: What does this have to do with Stryman?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's 21st century.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, did you know that there's a different way to tie your shoes?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, back to the Stryman.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Squirrel! Look, it's hot.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: My brain has melted twice this year.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: That is.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_04: What are the odds, Brian, that this time next year, Richard still doesn't have any form of air.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know it because if you think back to if you listened to the episodes a year ago, Richard was still like, it's so hot here.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't have air conditioning.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_04: I saw an article and I almost sent it to you, and then I forgot because that's what I do.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_04: And it was uh, I don't remember which publication it was, but it was like, Europeans are oddly anti-air conditioning even during a heat wave.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_02: And it was that was the title of the uh I mean the main problem with it is it doesn't make sense from a scientific viewpoint.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like the main problem we all have is so you want us to create a load of warm air and blow it outside just to keep our homes cool.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: What you don't realize is over here our homes are next to each other.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_02: So you're just calling your house to warm your neighbours.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds like it's not my problem.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's the American way.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's not my problem.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's your problem.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_02: It is taking off in this call.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there are more air conditioning uh installations happening.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_02: They're in the new builds.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: Those are the way to go.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: They're expensive, they have their own kind of issues, but they're way more efficient and they don't cause the same damage.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: There is a big government push to get heat pumps installed for heating over here.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_02: The problem is like ground source and air source heat pumps, they can't really heat a British home to above like 18 degrees in winter.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that fails the Mrs.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oliver.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: I live in Portland, Oregon.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: What are you talking about?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_04: Of course it can.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_04: Our weather is so similar.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: Is it?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_04: How hot is it there now?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_04: How hot is it there now?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_04: It's like 85.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_04: That's nothing.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_04: Well, we're the Pacific Northwest is uh isolated from the heat wave somewhat for that's getting the rest of the world seemingly.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: How old is it right now?
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like eighty five.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Eighty five?
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's twenty nine Celsius.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: Richard was talking eighteen, that's sixty five.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's a little chilling.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: So it's currently thirty one Celsius in household.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like when it's eighty si eighty eight Degrees.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: This sounds like last week on the podcast.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was like 88 here.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_04: I was sweating bullets.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_04: You were sweating bullets.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_04: People tune in for the weather talk.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know they love the weather.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the clouds.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: You guys like a good cumule nimbus cloud?
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: I uh I don't like clouds, Bri.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: They they want you to think they're clouds.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's true.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: You ever notice how they're in like a funny pattern that's almost too good to be natural?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: It is.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: That is exactly because they're spraying you with chemicals to make you one of those funny types.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not gonna work.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm never gonna be funny.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: So no matter what I said there would be politically incorrect.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: So I had to try and come up with something politically correct, and I miserably failed.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: One of those funny types.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, good, that'd be good for the podcast then.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, speaking of comedians, and I I mentioned this to Brian uh off-air, but I'll mention it to you as well.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: There is a new comedy out starring Lavi L Lavi Lavi David.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: Larry David.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_02: Is Larry David in the history of everything or something?
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it looks funny.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's hilarious.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_02: Brian would love it because he likes history and he reminds me of a young Larry David.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's a compliment, Brian.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_02: He's one of the funniest guys your country is not ever made.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's not handsome like me, though.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean very few people are.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um I know what I'm saying.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, that reminds me.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: I needed to change the name of somebody.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_02: I keep forgetting to change it.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: I can't change it to that.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's libelous.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Kramer's guitars.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Do we talk about them?
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: Kramer's?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_02: Kramer's 50th anniversary collection.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: Let's look at it.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: What I will say is they knew what they were doing when they put that one at the front.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, they did.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_02: They knew exactly what they were doing when they led with an S-type guitar.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like a really S-type guitar.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_04: You could argue that they're all S-types, but that one's really S-type.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_04: But that one's really S-type.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: That one.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: So uh you know something I've always done, and this is probably kind of wrong of me.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I've always refused to say T type and S-type.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: Screw it.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a telling.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: You just did.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's a strat.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Caught you out.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: You just did.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but I mean like when we're when talking about guitars.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you need to be clearer, Bri.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: I just I just look at it like Kleenex, man.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care if it's a facial tissue, it's a Kleenex.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think I'm with you.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm with you.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: I I think I'm always like, it's like a strat or a telly.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: And people just if they know they know, and if they don't know, they're no friend of mine.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, this is the first week, can I just say that we haven't mentioned that legal cease and desistence?
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_04: There hasn't been any new developments as far as I know, so that makes it easier.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_04: It does make it easier.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: What you mean there aren't 18 different YouTube videos to watch?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I did watch the Rhett Schul uh stuff.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: I went and checked out that channel.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's that is unreal.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, what's unreal?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_04: So the one you weren't here.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I was driving the Dune Buggies.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't have time for it.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, someone made like an AI channel of Rhett stuff.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like it included.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't just Rhett stuff, though it was lots of different content creators, and there was a whole load that were just Rhett stuff.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like so right down to the clothes he was wearing.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right down to the clothes.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_04: It was an AI guitar channel.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: That was like a conglomeration of different guitarists.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was all really used, mostly Rhett.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I looked through the channel, so it was all AI clickbaity stuff, like the one secret AMP companies don't want you to know.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: But a whole bunch of them were using Rhett's old studio as a background, and a guy dressed like Rhett but with a different head.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not gonna get any better anytime quicker, especially with all the new tools that are coming out.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: I saw uh his video yesterday.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently he tried to appeal it and got denied.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: So YouTube's like, I can like this AI crap.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's probably good.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Pretty good stuff.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's bringing me good money.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_04: Hmm.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_04: Don't like that.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_04: It got denied.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_04: See, this is I know that YouTube and Facebook and all these major platforms are dealing with more uh a volume of stuff that we couldn't possibly comprehend.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: Like they the volume of information that's coming into them and the amount of appeals and all that stuff is is insane.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_04: But you would think that if a channel had over, say a hundred thousand subs, they know when you hit a hundred thousand subs and they send out a plaque.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_04: Like they they do that.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_04: So if a channel hits over a hundred thousand subs, that's quite an accomplishment.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_04: Uh there's only so many of those channels.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_04: You would think if one of those submitted an appeal, uh submitted a you know, a takedown request or something, that should flag the system differently and a human could review it.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: I would think.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: Also, could I just ask our listeners to please go and subscribe to my OliverFX YouTube channel?
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because it currently has like 46 subs, Bri.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna need some advertising revenue, I think.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: Uh would you like to make a commercial?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let me send you the rates real quick, Richard.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_04: Send you the rate card.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: I definitely would like to make another commercial, Bri.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh just joking, guys.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on, hold on.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, I've got no money.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um I will give you one hamburger.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_04: I'd gladly pay you for a hamburger tomorrow if I can eat it today.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait a minute.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: Big news.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_02: My video has almost had.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I I I overplayed it.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: I've only got 43 subscribers to Oliver Effects.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, how dare you?
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_02: I've nearly had 94 views on my video.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: But it it takes a while.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, sometimes people put out video a video a week for two years, and then all of a sudden, like, whoa, that one hit 500,000.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have this huge catalog, and then people, then you know, you're doing good.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: But it takes the grind of getting there.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: The grind.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Most people don't like it.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a fan of grinder.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_04: Wait, did that's not that's not my understanding.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_04: Uh that's not what I hear.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: Did that just come out on I meant I said the quiet.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_02: Now we're gonna lose them as a sponsor.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: I love grind.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: Tinder, I don't like.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_02: No, other way around.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: What is the difference?
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Never mind, I'll ask some of the time.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you're probably about to get some emails explaining the difference to you, and uh there is one.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_04: One large difference.
• 50:57
  unknown: Good.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, you know who probably isn't on either of those services?
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_04: Our lovely executive producers.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on, we don't know that for sure.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: Don't judge we don't know that.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's true.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: Non-judgmental podcast.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: If you like to date using your phone, then more power to your elbow.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_04: I just am assuming they're so awesome they're probably already taken.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_04: Fair.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_04: That is a good point.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm thinking.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm thinking.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_04: What do you guys say?
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_04: Should we read them off?
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, yes, we should, he says, looking at Blake.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_04: Big shout out to Bill Bays, Andrew Adkins, David Tyndall, Dave Trombetti, Eric Wilson, Vidar, Frostad, Michael Freer, Sean Arbo of Gunstreet Wiring.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_04: I know he's taken.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_04: Britt Calhoun of Honey Picks, Patrice Fournays, Dylan Toxtone, Missouri Electrical Box Company, Kevin Harrington, Barry from Grez Guitars, Tom Kelly, Jake Young of Man the Helm Podcast, Pigsy, John O'Neill, Robert Carr, Hunter Hudson, Rob Stokes, Nick Spano, Sasha Sir, Jay Stratton, Harry Post, Grumpy Mike, Harvey Pedles, Allison Carroll, Bum Laser, Anthony Stevens, Atta Plays Guitar, Philip Carter of the 40W podcast, Christopher Logan, Jason Englehart, Dylan Lewis of Leeward Sound, Josh, James Thompson, Colin Littlejohn, Machete of Odin, Derek Lyons, Darth Bagel, Dustin Romero, Wizard of Waz, Crappy Tom, Dragon from Womplern Inc.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_04: DJ Farns, Kyle Viana, Robert Hahn, John Hill, Nick Call, Kyle Ray, Your Face, Dave Evangelista of the Guitar Dads Podcast, Roxy Gwyn, Derek Howe, Churchill from Cam Girls Plus.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, maybe that one's on a service.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_04: Ross Edwards and William Price.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um all right.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much, even Churchill.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: See you.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to the Chasing Tone Podcast.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: If you have any comments, questions, or concerns, shoot me an email at podcast at womperpedals.com and I'll personally get your email.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: You can reach Blake at infotonemob.com.
• 52:47
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• 52:50
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• 52:57
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• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Be sure to check out Blake's other podcast called the Tone Mob for even more guitar talk.
• 53:02
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• 53:05
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• 53:11
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• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks again.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk to you next week.