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MLB talk with Matt Snyder, Matt Rudy breaks down the PGA Championship & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hour number two, Miller and Condon welcome back Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network Trenton Ken with you until just before 2 bottom
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  of the hour, Matt Rudy. It covers golf and did has for
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  decades. He'll join us to recap the PGA
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  Unjuice dot bet sponsors our weekly conversation with our
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  baseball guy. He's Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com
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  and he's with us, Matt Trenton. Ken, good to talk to you.
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  Matt Snyder, you want to want to start with you.
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  It was we had the the crossover series.
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  We had the rivalry weekend type thing this past weekend.
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  I kind of still like it. It was obviously we've done it
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  for a while now and maybe some of the the novelties worn off
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  with some of them, but there's still some juice to these
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  series. Do you see it that way?
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  Yeah, yeah, a little bit. I mean, I still think it's funny
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  that, look, it's very difficult for Major League Baseball to
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  schedule 15 matchups and to try to call all of them rivalries.
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  It's difficult, but I, and I understand that.
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  But I do think it's funny that there aren't actual rivalries.
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  Like the biggest rivalries in baseball are Cubs, Cardinals,
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  Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants.
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  And instead these are all the Interlake matchups.
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  Instead, however, yeah, it's cool.
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  Like Mets, Yankees, Cubs, White Sox, stuff like that.
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  Just lost you. Are you there?
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  Really fun over the weekend, yes?
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  Good stuff. We just broke up for a second.
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  Yeah, we do. We got you.
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  So, OK, over the weekend, we see the White Sox take two out of
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  three. They looked competent.
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  It was more White Sox than I was anticipating.
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  I was going to be watching in the middle of May, but here we
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  are and I think they're going. To.
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  Absolutely. They're starting to kind of
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  wedge their way in here as we're surrounded by 6 different Major
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  League Baseball teams and they're starting to get a little
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  bit of at least TV 2. Still not TV one, but they're
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  getting there. Is this sustainable though?
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  Terrible division? Obviously, nobody.
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  You don't feel Maybe Cleveland could run away, but doesn't feel
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  highly likely. Can this thing hang on?
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  Can they even get to the middle of the season still with the
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  shot, with this White Sox squad? Yeah, I think so.
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  I, I think, look, they're fun enough.
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  And by the way, I love that you mentioned.
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  Oh no, lost them again. But there's six different colors
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  on the blackout map. Look, yeah, I like the power
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  through the middle lineup. Murakami, Colson, Montgomery,
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  Miguel Vargas. That's really, really scary when
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  you're an opposing team. And I would know first hand
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  because I just watched the Cubs and every time you got to the
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  middle of the line up, I thought, we can't pitch to these
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  guys. We what, what can you do here?
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  And when Vargas came up yesterday against calling Ray, I
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  actually texted my dad and brothers that I think we should
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  take Ray out before this batter. Sure enough, Vargas doubled in
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  the gap and drove home two runs and all of a sudden the game was
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  tied. They they are.
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  There's a feistiness to them. And it looks like Davis Martin
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  right now is pitching like an ace.
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  It looks like they've kind of figured out the back end of the
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  bullpen. They've got power, they they can
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  play good defense in spots, they have speed at times.
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  I think they can hang around. It's mostly because it's a weak
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  division. I don't think they're much
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  better than mediocre, but that might be all you need in this
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  division. So yeah, I think they can hang
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  around. We're going to call you right
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  back. You see you're breaking up
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  periodically here, Matt. We'll call you right back, man.
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  That's no problem. We'll call you right back.
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  Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com. We'll re hook up with him.
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  Hopefully we won't lose some of his answer and at portions of
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  our little 15 minute piece or so with him, a lot of ground to
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  cover. We talk baseball with him each
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  and every Monday. Both TC and I love this spot and
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  we got a lot of ground to cover. In fact, I'm going to get next
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  to the worst team in Major League Baseball and maybe one of
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  Major League Baseball superstars.
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  This might be the time for him to ask his way out.
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  Let's get back to Matt Snyder, CBS Sports.
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  Matt, I want to go to the worst team in baseball who had the
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  unfortunate situation of sharing the team, sharing the city with
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  maybe the best team in baseball, the Angels, when it comes to my
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  Trout, right? There has to be a time when
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  Trout just says, you know, I, I, I, I've been a good foot
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  soldier. I've, I've been here my entire
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  career, I can't keep waiting for that opportunity for this team
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  to turn a corner. It's they're so far away from
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  turning that corner. If indeed this is the year, is
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  there a team or two that make more sense?
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  I know the Braves are already, at least that's out there.
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  Does the Phillies maybe make the most sense of anywhere, do you
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  think? If Trump leaves, who do you
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  think will be the pursuer that ultimately gets him?
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  Yeah, it's difficult. You know, you would think that
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  we'll come to it. All right, enough, enough.
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  But you know, it's hard to get inside someone's head.
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  And he's never done anything but because he wants to stay.
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  Yeah, the Phillies immediately come to mind because he's a
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  South Jersey guy. He's a big Eagles fan, for
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  example. He's always been all over the
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  Philly sports. And there's a natural connection
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  because we always think about Bryce Harper.
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  Mike Trout of Maine and bachata all came up around the same
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  time. So you always connect those 3.
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  Bryce Harper on the Phillies. The Phillies are a contender.
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  It feels like it's a good fit, yeah, And surely they're going
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  to go for it, right? An old Ish roster, their
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  perennial playoff team. They haven't won the World
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  Series with this current group, so they would make sense.
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  He's 35 and August, I mean, how much time he got left Trout?
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  Exactly, exactly. You're right, the Braves do make
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  sense as well. I, I kind of, I wonder about the
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  Yankees, if the Yankees would throw their hat in the ring
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  there. Maybe, maybe not.
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  It's difficult because we haven't had any substantial
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  rumors when it comes to him. So it's all speculative.
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  Yeah, I Braves and Phillies kind of feels like that's it, like
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  it's one of those two just just initially eyeballing it.
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  Want to go back to Chicago, back to the South Side and PCA back
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  in the spotlight again In the past he's ripped a California
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  guy, ripped Dodger fans or not his passion as Chicago fans,
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  he's always in the mix and we've had fun with PCA.
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  Ken and I have gone back and forth.
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  I know I've told you before, Mattie just doesn't seem like my
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  kind of guy. Not a Cubs fan, doesn't seem
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  like a guy that I'd probably want to hang out with, but that
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  doesn't matter, he's a baseball player.
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  Still there is a wide range of opinions.
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  I think this depending on if you fly AW flag after a victory or
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  not of where he is. When you saw that the
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  altercation I'm sure you sure you saw the different camera
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  angles also that came out of it. Just your take away.
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  Also with the caveat you are a Cubs fan.
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  Yeah. So, no, I don't think you should
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  do that. But I also think these players
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  are human. And it's easy to forget that
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  they're human beings just like the rest of us.
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  And there are emotions that happen.
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  I I like that he wears his heart on his sleeve.
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  I I've, I've said that for a long, long time.
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  I will. Going back, I said it about
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  Javier Baez. We could keep going all the way
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  back. For some reason, it rubs people
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  who are not fans of the team the wrong way when a guy wears his
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  heart on his sleeve like that. And it is an emotional guy.
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  I, I, I get some a little losses.
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  Like what? What's so bad about him?
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  Like, obviously he shouldn't have done that.
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  But again, he's human. You react in the moment,
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  Whatever. It's not like he hurt anybody.
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  I mean, it's, you know, it's words.
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  But I guess I'll ask you Trent, since that he's not your type of
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  guy. Like what?
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  What's so bad about him? Honestly, he just seems douchey.
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  I mean, it's as simple as that. It really is.
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  He just, he doesn't seem like you know.
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  What? It's a gut feel.
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  I think there's a lot of people I I've been unable to understand
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  it, but I probably don't need to get too deep into it.
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  I think it's a gut feel for a lot of people then.
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  And and, and the bride, once it was an engagement party, the
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  bride to be went to the ballpark knowing with the plan of getting
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  a picking a fight with PCA. I mean, the, the the boyfriend
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  slash fiance came out in the paper today and said we knew we
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  were going to do this. We didn't think it was going to
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  get the coverage that it did. Well, I mean, come on, this
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  thing blew up. I'm a fan, right?
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  Exactly. I'm a huge fan.
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  I like watch. I love watching him play
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  defense, love watching him run the bases in the batter's box.
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  That's another story. But yeah, I can.
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  I can certainly understand the. I'll say this, I'll say this.
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  And I know that there were, you know, and there's an undertone
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  of bias here because I have a cup stand, but I will say this
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  from personal interactions in the clubhouse, legitimately one
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  of the nicest guys I've come across in the clubhouse.
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  He's made extra time for me. There were times that there were
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  there were coaches that said you don't have time to do this and
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  he still tried to make for me. He he's really, really nice in
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  the clubhouse. Stop ruining this for me, cider.
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  You want to hate him? Sorry.
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  It's just to be anything. Hey, I want to know how Kevin
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  Cash keeps doing this with the race.
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  I mean, this is one of the more every single year seemingly.
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  This team shouldn't be there, yet there they are.
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  No, it it really, I mean, if you look at it, OK, so offensively,
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  Junior Caminero, great, probably on his way to being a legit
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  superstar. Yandi Diaz, we know about him.
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  We know he's a good hair. Jonathan Aranda, pretty good
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  hitter. That's about it when you look at
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  the offense. And then you go to the rotation
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  and Nick Martinez was bad for the Reds.
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  Last year's got a 1.51 ERA and nine starts so far.
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  Drasmus and Shane Mcclanahan, very good.
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  But other than that, I mean, you look like the rest of the the
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  pitching staff going on through the bullpen and everything.
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  It just they should not be this good, but it's it's what they
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  do. They they've they've long been a
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  zig when everybody else zags. One thing I find very
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  interesting about the team right now is for a long time go back
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  to the Moneyball A's when on base percentage was was.
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  No. No, we got squirrels in the
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  phone lines today. Something's going on here.
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  It is baseball right now, so it's like it's cyclical and the
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  batting average is coming back. I mean, I, I, I just take a look
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  at the starters on this team and I love the game.
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  I'm not sure I can name 4. Maybe.
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  Maybe I'd set the number number 2, 1/2.
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  It truly is. It's a, it's a line up of guys
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  that I don't know where they came from there.
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  There's a couple of veterans in there.
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  Gavin Lux, obviously he's got rings, he's part of a parade,
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  but it's just a, it's just a line up that just, I don't know
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  how they do it year, especially in that division.
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  Matt. Yeah, yeah.
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  And that division right now, three of the more disappointing
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  teams in baseball, for sure. You've got the Rays are amazing,
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  the Yankees still pretty good even though they were went 2:00
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  and 7:00 on that bad road trip. But the Jays, Orioles, Red Sox,
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  at least Sox, you would say, are very disappointing and a lot of
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  people thought the Orioles had bounced back potential and it's
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  just not there so far. So man, kudos to the Rays.
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  Speaking of disappointing teams in the American League, let's go
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  to the Pacific Northwest where Seattle made some headlines over
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  the weekend. Cole Emerson is up now.
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  They handed out the big contract before we ever played an MLB
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  game, $95 million guaranteed 8 year contract that was handed
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  out on April's Fool's Day on April 1st.
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  But Emerson's up changing the fortune here and and what should
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  be an expectation for a guy that's just 20 years old trying
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  to help out this Mariner offense.
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  You you might look at Conor Griffin of the Pirates, who who
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  started really, really slow and in the last I wanted to it's
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  like 2223 games. He's hitting 325 and starting to
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  look like he's starting to get it.
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  Something like baseline expectation because this is a
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  really, really hard game and the pitchers are so, so, so good
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  nowadays. It's an exponential leap from
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  AAA to the majors. I remembered one time I was
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  talking to a scout and I said something like, well, it seems
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  like the AA to AAA jump is the hardest one and the is the
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  hardest one. And he went, oh, no, no, no, no,
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  it's AAA to the majors. The majors is just a totally,
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  totally different level. So, you know, maybe struggles a
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  little bit, but then there's so much talent there, you would
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  expect things to click maybe a month in or so, something like
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  that. And yeah, as you said, Trent,
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  very, very disappointing for the Mariners right now to be 4 games
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  under. But hey, sometimes geography can
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  help you because they're only two games at first or under.
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  Well, when you look at it like that, can the Phillies catch the
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  Braves? Probably not, but eight games
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  right now is workable. I know it it seems like it's
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  insurmountable and everything, but we've seen from the middle
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  of May to the end of the season, 8 games is definitely workable.
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  I don't think they will. I think the Braves are better.
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  And if you just said true talent level, are the Phillies really
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  eight games better than the Braves for the rest of the
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  season? I don't see that happening.
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  But you know it's there. There's some head to head left
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  in there and they're playing really, really good baseball
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  right now. I think there's it's they're
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  very interesting to me and the extremes on their schedule
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  because when they were really, really bad, they only played the
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  Cubs and Braves for two weeks. And you could just say, well,
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  it's because of the schedule. They just had a really hard
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  schedule. But to lose 10 in a rows awfully
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  extreme. Since then, they've played
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  Giants, Marlins, A's, Rockies, Red Sox, Pirates.
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  It doesn't seem like that strong of a schedule, but man, 15 and
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  four that's that's difficult against any schedule.
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  So. When was it all?
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  Over the place on the extreme. When did they change managers?
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  Can you go? Can you?
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  We pinpoint to that day that they turned a corner when
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  Mattingly took over. Do you remember what day it was?
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  Yeah. Monday, Monday, April 27th, it
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  was. Not OK.
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  Yeah, so they were 9 to 19 and they're 15 and four.
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  So there you go. Part of it is Colorado when
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  they're looking for a Miami. Yeah, when you're looking, when
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  you're looking for a bit of a vibe shift.
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  You think we're coming off a really hard schedule.
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  We've got an easy schedule coming up and I always go back
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  to thinking about the Bull Durham quote and crash, David
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  said. If you think that's why you're
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  winning, then you are. You can kind of see mentally,
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  hey, let's let's change managers.
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  There'll be a vibe shift. And then if you start winning,
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  if you think you're winning because you changed the
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  managers, then you are. So I maybe just maybe mentally
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  there was a little bit of a change there, but I do not think
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  it was just because they changed managers.
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  I think it was a lot of other variables.
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  Zach Wheeler getting back in the rotation instead of Taiwan.
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  Walker was one of those. Brandon Marsh going crazy, Kyle
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  Schwarber and Bryce Harper doing Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper
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  things. A lot of variables there.
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  And playing the Giants and then playing the the Fish, and then
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  playing the A's, and then playing Colorado and Boston and
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  Pittsburgh, Yeah, that has a lot to do with it.
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  You're right. You look at the schedule and
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  advance of making a move. I agree.
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  Matt, we talked a week ago about loose bodies in the elbow with
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  Schooble, and we had this earlier this year with Edwin
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  Diaz, now Blake Snell. Is this injury becoming more
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  prevalent just because of obviously the wear and tear that
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  we're seeing with these guys? Chuck it up there.
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  Is it just a weird thing that everything's grouped together
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  and we have three major names that are having this kind of
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  surgery? Or is this something new where
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  instead of going through something that is more
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  reconstructive, they go in there and something that you can
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  return during the course of the season?
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  Help me out with loose bodies because I certainly don't
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  remember it at this volume. I think it's one of those things
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  where it had probably always been an injury, but for a long
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  time, maybe it went undiagnosed or for a long time they called
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  it something else or but it might be becoming more prevalent
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  because of how hard guys throw nowadays.
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  I mean, I talked to an orthopaedic surgeon and I asked
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  him about it and he said the throwing motion, every single
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  time you throw something overhanded as hard as you can,
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  the bones kind of hit together in your elbow.
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  And if you do that over and over and over, eventually something's
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  going to chip off of it. So I think it's probably, you
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  know, a combination of period factors and part of it is just
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  how hard they throw nowadays. The Brewers continue their climb
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  up the division in the Central. Are they going to overhaul the
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  Cubs? I'll stick with the Cubs for my
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  Central Division winner prediction, but I would be very
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  surprised if at some point the Brewers were not in first place.
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  Maybe as soon as Wednesday. The way things are going right
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  now, the Cubs with that that three and six road trip.
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  Now Cubs are 18 and five at home, though, so returning home,
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  maybe get the good vibes, Wrigley.
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  But it certainly feels, I'll just say I have an ominous
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  feeling about the series coming up.
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  And it just feels like, yeah, they're going to be in first
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  place in three days. They are year after year.
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  Ken mentioned it with the race, and though they've had a couple
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  of dips, even those dips don't feel like they're happening
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  anymore with Milwaukee. And people have changed, names
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  have changed. I mean, Yelich is a shell of
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  himself. He's been banged up for a big
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  portion of the season. Is it?
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  Just doesn't matter, yeah. Do you go back to drafting?
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  Is it finding those guys under the raid?
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  How do you put together these two organizations, specifically
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  Tampa and Milwaukee? How are they able to
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  consistently win with the shoestring budget that they have
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  year after year? Yeah, I I would throw the
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  Guardians in there too. Those absolutely are exceptional
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  at getting the absolute most out of the players on their roster.
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  And when when they decide to cut bait, whether offseason Freddy
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  Peralta to the bets or what, they decided to trade Josh Ader
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  and promote Devin Williams, but then they traded Devin Williams
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  last year. They, they just, they must be
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  unbelievably good at knowing themselves, knowing their
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  operations, that there's a system in place where they get
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  the most out of the talent on the team.
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  And obviously it doesn't always work out.
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  I mean, we've seen some players be disappointing, but for the
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  most part, it pretty much seems to always work out and, and, and
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  at some point that's not an accident.
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  At some point, that's just how good they are at developing
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  talent, knowing themselves, knowing how to get the most out
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  of their guys. I can't say enough about their
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  front office operations. They are amazing.
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  What have we got? We've got Sprout versus Imanaga,
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  Edge Cubs, then we've got Mizoroski Brown tomorrow, edge
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  Brew Crew, and what's the getaway game?
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  Harrison Cabrera. That's a pretty good three-game
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  series. That's pretty damn good.
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  And I would say when you say Miss Roski, Ben Brown, I do not
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  disagree. But man, Brown, he's been good.
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  Good. Yes, yes, yeah.
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  So that that's like a sneaky great pitching match up there.
• 19:41
  No doubt. What's your Tuesday like next
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  week? We're off Monday.
• 19:45
  I'm good. Good.
• 19:46
  So are we. Thanks, buddy.
• 19:48
  Appreciate it. Matt Snyder.
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  All right, Love talking to you. Thanks.
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  trend. Condon, Ken Miller back with
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  you. It's Miller and Condon on the
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network and Matt Rudy, our next guest.
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  I was telling him, Ken, during the break there, that you were
• 22:12
  fired up. Yes.
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  Didn't feel like a major. It did Matt good to talk to you.
• 22:17
  Appreciate the contribution as always.
• 22:20
  You know, I thought, Matt, when they, when they changed from
• 22:22
  August to the event, from August on the calendar to May, that
• 22:25
  this was the most, one of the most impactful changes on the
• 22:28
  sports calendars that we've seen in a while.
• 22:31
  I don't feel like that anymore, Matt.
• 22:33
  Rudy, I don't know what it is because August, obviously we're
• 22:37
  all football crazy. You know, where we live in the
• 22:38
  Midwest and you went to Michigan State.
• 22:40
  You know what it's like there. I just thought it was going to
• 22:43
  work well in May. I, I think I'm wrong.
• 22:45
  Matt, where are you on this? Well, I mean, I mean, are you
• 22:49
  thinking about that because of the marquee value of the guy
• 22:52
  that won this week? Or if you look at the last few
• 22:55
  years, though, they've had good winners.
• 22:56
  Gotti Scheffler is a good winner and Shafley is a good winner.
• 22:59
  I mean that I think they, they, they get a much more even
• 23:03
  experience in terms of the weather.
• 23:05
  I think the the they can pick from other courses that might
• 23:08
  not be so pleasant to play in. I mean, I guess you could say
• 23:13
  that having a sauna in August could be part, you know, could
• 23:17
  be part of the challenge like this is, you know, that's the
• 23:19
  physical challenge major where you could have heat stroke.
• 23:22
  I mean, I think May is the right time.
• 23:26
  And I give the PGA of America credit because they have a
• 23:29
  fantastic field. They're willing to bring the
• 23:32
  live guys in so that you can see Jon Ron playing in a major So
• 23:36
  you can see, you know, the guys that would not be examined.
• 23:40
  Camp Smith played well the century and where you could
• 23:49
  want, there was a there was a full leaderboard, there were
• 23:51
  marquee guys and then by all accounts, the nicest human on
• 23:55
  the PGA. Yeah, really.
• 23:56
  One that's won the tournament, so I think that was a good
• 23:58
  outcome. Yeah, his wife's got some game
• 24:00
  too. A lot.
• 24:00
  Watching the Part 3 at the Masters.
• 24:02
  My gosh, she can hit. It got a swing, no doubt.
• 24:05
  She's a pro, She's a pro. I know she's a women's European
• 24:08
  Tour. That's awesome.
• 24:10
  That this course, I was concerned going into it, as we
• 24:13
  talked about on Wednesday, leading in that it was going to
• 24:15
  be, it was going to feel like the John Deere Classic.
• 24:18
  And no offense to our friends in the Quad Cities, but I wondered
• 24:21
  with a course like this, the trees that were cleared out, how
• 24:24
  was going to play? It played well and it got dried
• 24:26
  out and it was breezy and that thing was fast.
• 24:29
  But then it lead the other way where the US Open.
• 24:31
  I'm used to that kind of test. I like a test a year when it
• 24:34
  comes to the majors. But maybe it was just yesterday
• 24:37
  and I felt like every time I flipped it on and got over to
• 24:39
  it, somebody was missing a putt opportunities and nobody could
• 24:43
  push down that door. Just your overview on the course
• 24:46
  and the way this played out and something that of course you
• 24:49
  think can be part of the future and part of the rotation going
• 24:51
  forward. Well.
• 24:53
  I I look at the guy. Matt, we're going to have to try
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  you back. Again.
• 25:02
  Yeah, Matt, we're, we're losing. I think we've got a bad phone
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  line. We'll call you right back, Matt.
• 25:06
  Rudy, we'll call right? Back and I've used multiple
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  phone lines here. I'm starting to think it's us.
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  Well, and I don't even know if it's us or is there something
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  with Verizon or something? I mean, that's three straight.
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  And Matt's on the eastern part of the country, Matt Snyders in
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  Indiana. I want to say I don't know, but
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  it's it's no good. And we apologize to our audience
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  that we're struggling like this to to hear some of the answers
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  to our questions. We got many more of them to get
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  problem. We're having trouble.
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  It's not your your end. It's us hearing you.
• 25:48
  So if you recall, just go ahead. And say is, you know, the, the,
• 25:52
  the guy who won the tournament, I think he, I think he played
• 25:55
  the last 63 hole a six or seven holes, 5 under eagle.
• 26:00
  He made birdies. He made a big long putt on the
• 26:02
  17th hole. I think.
• 26:04
  I think the guy who played the best won the tournament.
• 26:07
  He made putts when he needed to make them.
• 26:08
  He made short butts. He made long butts.
• 26:11
  I think the course, you couldn't ask for a better set up.
• 26:14
  I think 9 under one the tournament.
• 26:16
  And you know, that's, that's a decently low score, but it's
• 26:19
  not, you know, 22 under or something like that.
• 26:21
  I think the course acquitted itself very well.
• 26:25
  Just watching I, I was flipping around and I saw Scotty playing
• 26:28
  a hole and he had a three-way, he had a great tee shot and he
• 26:31
  had a three wood into a par 4. And when was the last time you
• 26:34
  saw that on the PGA Tour? I mean, I, I think it tested
• 26:38
  every part of a player's game and it that there was a drivable
• 26:41
  par 4. So you could take a chance if
• 26:43
  you wanted to. They had some long par threes.
• 26:45
  I think it was a nice mix. Yeah, we saw Rory.
• 26:49
  Dr. That green, we saw Scotty with a a boy.
• 26:53
  He struggled with the putter all weekend long.
• 26:55
  You told me about Jon ROM before anybody ever heard of Jon ROM
• 26:59
  and he ultimately would become Jon ROM and win those
• 27:02
  tournaments as he has. I'm starting to wonder, is
• 27:05
  Ludwig Obberg, with the exception of leaving, going to
• 27:08
  live, etcetera, kind of following the same career path
• 27:11
  that, you know, he keeps getting close and then one of these
• 27:15
  years he's going to breakthrough as ROM did.
• 27:17
  He seemed to be a guy that's been on our radar and ROM was on
• 27:20
  yours for anybody else. But Aubrey's been on Trents for
• 27:24
  sure. And I just feel like it's it's
• 27:27
  coming. Just don't know when because
• 27:29
  he's got all the, he's got all the tools, right?
• 27:32
  I, I think that's a a fantastic comparison and I think even more
• 27:36
  than Jon ROM, he, he looks like, I mean that his swing is just
• 27:40
  incredible to watch. He just looks like he's going to
• 27:42
  win the tournament. And I think what, what when you
• 27:45
  get to great players like that, you almost forget he's only been
• 27:48
  around for two years. This is this is the beginning of
• 27:50
  year 3. And it takes some time to figure
• 27:53
  these things out. Scotty Scheffler needed an
• 27:56
  entire first year of the PGA Tour where he didn't win
• 27:58
  anything. And we started talking about how
• 28:00
  he, you know, when, when was he going to do it and when was he
• 28:02
  going to do it? And I think your, your
• 28:04
  comparison is right on. Once the light goes on and you
• 28:06
  start to win these, then Xander Shockley was the same way.
• 28:09
  I, I, I know I spoke on your show a bunch of times out of
• 28:14
  Shockley winning two majors in the same year, that that was a
• 28:17
  guy who was right there on the cusp.
• 28:18
  And all of a sudden he wins the PGA and he goes and wins the
• 28:20
  British Open. Because you know, you, there's
• 28:23
  just that one piece that you need to discover and be in
• 28:26
  contention and over. It's done it at the Masters and
• 28:29
  now he's done it at the PGA Championship.
• 28:30
  And I think that's definitely a guy that's that's on the come.
• 28:34
  You know, we talked about at the top with you, Matt, about the
• 28:36
  potential moving back to PGA to August. 1 of the think pieces I
• 28:40
  was reading last week brought up the idea and I really like this
• 28:43
  thought is if you don't, you keep the calendar as it's
• 28:46
  currently constructed, Masters in April, PGA in May.
• 28:49
  Of course then what we get with the US Open in the British that
• 28:52
  the playoffs that fall flat. Even I think for a lot of casual
• 28:56
  golf fans, by the time we get into August is potentially
• 28:59
  putting a couple of those on the West Coast and leading into some
• 29:02
  primetime golf in August where we get a couple of West Coast
• 29:06
  venues. Is that something that makes
• 29:07
  sense for you and for the casual, not the hardcore golf
• 29:10
  person, not not for the people that you know, Matt, but more
• 29:13
  the people that are with us to get the casuals back involved
• 29:16
  with it, some West Coast playoff golf.
• 29:19
  Is that something that could pop for the PGA Tour?
• 29:23
  I think it could and I, and I actually think putting some PGA
• 29:25
  Tour playoff events worldwide would be pretty cool to have
• 29:30
  them be in prime time, but have them be in a, in a different
• 29:34
  international environment. You want to take away the
• 29:36
  argument that the PGA Tour is too provincial into America
• 29:39
  based, Have some of the playoffs be somewhere else.
• 29:42
  You haven't, you haven't be in the UK, haven't be in Asia,
• 29:44
  haven't be in Africa. I think the adding some, you
• 29:47
  know, some exotic aspect to it like that.
• 29:50
  I, I wish there was a way that one of the majors could be
• 29:53
  international in a different international spot every year.
• 29:55
  And I don't think you could do that with APJ of America event.
• 29:58
  But, you know, having something or, or U.S.
• 30:02
  Open, but that having that piece to it, whether it's a West Coast
• 30:06
  event or an international flair, I think anything that gives
• 30:10
  somebody a different look, you know, puts players.
• 30:12
  And I think that's why the Open Championship is my favorite
• 30:14
  because it puts people in a different look.
• 30:17
  The golf courses don't look the same.
• 30:19
  The strategy is different. The weather is different.
• 30:21
  I think having some different factors as opposed to standard
• 30:24
  golf course one O 1 is what makes it fun to watch.
• 30:27
  Let's talk about Shinnecock. That's where the US Open will be
• 30:30
  played in about a month's time from right now, if memory
• 30:34
  serves. You like this course, right?
• 30:35
  And this can be a real, you know what as far as make leading to
• 30:40
  some very some very difficult to rounds for some of the best
• 30:44
  players in the world. Your thoughts on Shinnecock?
• 30:46
  Oh, yeah. I mean, depending on what the
• 30:47
  weather is, we've had, we had a super wet spring in the
• 30:51
  Northeast. And but I don't know how easy
• 30:53
  it's going to be to make it as firm and fast as they would want
• 30:56
  to have it. But that, that place when, if it
• 30:58
  gets baked out and it gets windy, it's like playing in the
• 31:01
  parking lot and, you know, all of a sudden the green start
• 31:04
  turning purple. And you got people out there,
• 31:07
  you know, stringing the greens in between groups just to keep
• 31:09
  them alive. You know, I'm trying.
• 31:11
  I know you love it super hard. You're going to get your wish.
• 31:14
  If they can get the course set up the way they want, they might
• 31:17
  not ever finish. You know that.
• 31:18
  This is where you get those, you know, plus 4 + + 4 + 5 + 6, you
• 31:23
  know, championship scores. It's just a different, you know,
• 31:26
  it's a different test, different kind of golf.
• 31:28
  And, you know, this is where Phil hit his ball when it was
• 31:30
  still moving, you know, because he was so annoyed that he
• 31:32
  couldn't, he couldn't get the ball up on the green.
• 31:35
  So I don't know. I don't know if that kind of
• 31:36
  frustration is my favorite thing to see.
• 31:39
  But like I said before, if I can watch 4 majors in a year and the
• 31:43
  character of all four is significantly different, and you
• 31:47
  know, if you're going to look at a thumbnail of all four and in
• 31:50
  the picture was very different, that would be a successful year.
• 31:53
  You're going to like this year then, by the sounds.
• 31:55
  Of this is going to be a fun one, yes, I like to see that and
• 31:57
  I want to see more frustration once a year.
• 31:59
  I'm happy with it. Once a year to have an unfair
• 32:02
  sometimes test of your golf. He wants blood. +5 winning
• 32:07
  score. Yeah, I want to see that one
• 32:09
  time of year. Scotty Scheffler.
• 32:11
  Oh, he won one time. It was the first event of the
• 32:13
  season and has not won since. A lot of 2nd place finishes in
• 32:16
  there. Got off to the great start we
• 32:18
  were looking for on Thursday and never got it going over the. 125
• 32:23
  putts. 125 is not going to win many golf tournaments, certainly
• 32:26
  with that. Is it just as simple as the flat
• 32:29
  stick? Anything else got new baby?
• 32:31
  What's going on with Scheffler because our expectations are so
• 32:35
  big for him? Oh yeah, I mean, just to be that
• 32:39
  huge of a favorite in every event.
• 32:42
  I don't think the Tiger Woods era spoiled us, you know, where
• 32:47
  someone could be that that much of A favorite and that dominant
• 32:50
  and that good every single time. I think in regular human golf,
• 32:54
  especially when there's, you know, you know, when you're a
• 32:57
  normal family person who is invested in your family life
• 33:00
  too, I think there's streaks and slumps that come with life,
• 33:04
  right? I mean, and if you can, if you
• 33:07
  can look back on your career and say, you know, I contended in
• 33:10
  some majors and I won a couple events, but I didn't win a major
• 33:13
  and that that was the worst season I had.
• 33:14
  I mean, that's, that's really not a, it's not a bad career to
• 33:18
  have. So I think all we're really
• 33:19
  seeing is kind of a reconsolidation.
• 33:22
  You know, you had some struggles with the putter before a couple
• 33:24
  of years ago and he sorted it out.
• 33:26
  And one thing that about Scotty that is so impressive to me is
• 33:30
  every single year, he's always searching to get a little bit
• 33:33
  better. And I think that that quest is
• 33:36
  not always linear. You know, sometimes, you know,
• 33:38
  you're looking for things and you put some improvements in
• 33:40
  place and it takes a little bit of time to, to figure out how
• 33:43
  to, how to make it come together when you play.
• 33:46
  But you know, I think this is, this is what a normal career,
• 33:50
  you know, career arc looks like. You don't win 2 majors every
• 33:54
  year. You don't win a major every
• 33:55
  year. You know, if you're still
• 33:57
  looking at a guy who's on pace to win something like 20 majors,
• 34:00
  which would put him in inner, inner inner circle Hall of Fame,
• 34:04
  his status. So I think it's too early to say
• 34:07
  that he's washed up. How about Bryson Dechambeau?
• 34:10
  Too early. Well, I, I have a lot of
• 34:14
  sympathy for the, the live guys just in the disarray that's
• 34:17
  happening now. You know, they all obviously
• 34:20
  made their bed and can sleep in it.
• 34:21
  But when you look at the way the rug has been pulled out, I think
• 34:25
  of all the things you expected from a super wealthy, you know,
• 34:28
  the the piff is such a wealthy, there was so much money behind
• 34:33
  this that I think the one thing they didn't predict that in the
• 34:36
  middle of the season, all of a sudden they would just say, you
• 34:38
  know what, we're not going to pay for this anymore.
• 34:40
  It's just an odd thing to try to deal with.
• 34:43
  And Bryson, the stakes for him are different than other
• 34:45
  players. He's going to just try to decide
• 34:47
  if he wants to just go and be like a YouTube personality who
• 34:50
  plays in a couple of tournaments every year.
• 34:53
  I mean, that is a that is a big sea.
• 34:55
  That is a sea change in a person's career.
• 34:58
  And it's not a big surprise that that, you know, the
• 35:00
  conversations you have to have on the business side and you
• 35:02
  know, all these things twirling around the back could make it so
• 35:05
  that you're not exactly focused in the week like PJ Week.
• 35:10
  Final one for me, Rory, if you would have told me he shoots 4
• 35:13
  under outside of the par fives, I'm like, oh, he's right there.
• 35:17
  He's even on the par fives this week.
• 35:18
  Just unthinkable. There was the one, it was the
• 35:22
  first par 5 yesterday. He bombs it out there almost 400
• 35:25
  yards. He's got a 7 iron in two par 5
• 35:28
  and he basically 3 putts. He was on the fringe and doesn't
• 35:31
  get it. Rory also though, kind of seemed
• 35:34
  like a jerk at at times. Is it?
• 35:36
  Is it just yeah, McCaffrey. Yeah, maybe.
• 35:41
  Maybe they're the same realm there.
• 35:42
  What's going on with Rory? You know, the interesting thing
• 35:46
  is if you twisted his arm, he would say he didn't play all
• 35:49
  that great at Augusta. So so basically he's been
• 35:52
  playing kind of B minus golf and he has a win and a top five in a
• 35:55
  major. So so all things considered, I
• 35:58
  think he's in a decent spot. But we talked about this a
• 36:03
  little bit, I think in some of the shows that we did later in
• 36:06
  the year, last year. I think the the amount of miles
• 36:10
  that he has been has on him from just having to be the spokesman
• 36:14
  for all this PGA Tour stuff over the last five years mixed in
• 36:18
  with trying to win the Masters, to win the career Grand Slam.
• 36:21
  I just think he's probably over it a little bit like, you know,
• 36:24
  he just, he just wants to be left alone.
• 36:26
  He does. He doesn't want to have to talk
• 36:27
  to everybody after every round. He doesn't want to be have to be
• 36:29
  the spokesman And you know, I I think he's kind of in the I'm
• 36:34
  I'm going to I'm going to turn off my good behavior for a
• 36:36
  little bit and and you know what, he's probably earned that.
• 36:39
  You can. You know, this is a guy who's
• 36:41
  been accessible. He's been a great quote.
• 36:44
  He did the forward to one of the books I wrote and he could not
• 36:46
  have been nicer. Every interaction I've ever had
• 36:48
  with him. He's a professional, nice
• 36:50
  person, he's allowed to have a little bit of a time to blow off
• 36:53
  some steam and put away his put away his good behaviour for a
• 36:56
  minute. Yeah, we did talk about it.
• 36:57
  You're exactly right. Last year, seemingly good stuff.
• 36:59
  Matt. Rudy, we will talk to you in
• 37:01
  advance of the US Open. Matt, thanks man.
• 37:03
  Appreciate it. You back, see you good.
• 37:05
  To talk to you, Matt Rudy, Golf Digest, formerly of Golf Digest,
• 37:08
  where he wrote for decades. Trent's plays of the day are
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  the basketball games, it's 6 1/2 or 4 and it's 6 1/2, right?
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  It is currently ta ta ta 6 1/2. By the way, do you know where
• 37:26
  the favorite is to win the US Open at Shinnecock?
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  This will surprise you. Well, I would say Scotty
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  Scheffler and tell you, oh. Yeah, it.
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  Is smart ass. Scheffler 4 to 1 is DraftKings,
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  Rory 7 to 1, Deshambo 10 ROM 12. There's Lutt Vergar Berg ready
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  to burn some of your hard earned money.
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  Well, you've just bet him top ten he's going to get you.
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  Get him top ten. There you go good stuff.
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  All right T CS got the plays of the day next circus sports Scott
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  those I'll talk to you Thursday. TC will talk to you next and
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  coming up with 2O clock off the bench.
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  Shawna Lucas from 2:00 until 5. Miller and Condon back with more
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  after this. Wrapping up the Monday edition,
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  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network flagship
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  right here in Des Moines, One O 6.3 KX&O thanks for joining us.
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  Got off the bench. Coming up next for you, kicking
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  off your two O clock hour until 5 before overtime, Iowa from
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  5:00 until six time for my picks of the day presented by Circa
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  Sports. We got a couple of games in
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  here, a bunch of prophets we're going to be firing at here
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  throughout the course of the evening.
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  Baseball, hockey, NBAWNBA, yeah, we got it all.
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  Let's start with the game picks. And as I mentioned earlier with
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  Ken, I am going to jump, jump on the Canadians.
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  The plus money, it's coin flip. You get a little bit better than
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  that at Circa plus one O 4 is the price there.
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  Elsewhere, you're going to be laying the juice, Not the case
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  at circa plus one O 4 with the Canadians going to jump aboard.
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  Also with the Spurs, I think the Thunder win this series.
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  I think they win it relatively comfortably.
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  But 6 1/2, I think we're going to get a good game, maybe more
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  hopeful for anything that we get a good game.
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  Feels like it is just been few and far between good NBA games
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  here recently in the playoffs. From there, we get into a couple
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  of prop bets for tonight in the Spurs.
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  OK, C matchup. I'm going to go Cason Wallace
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  over, not just a three pointer over 1 1/2.
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  You're getting plus money plus 175.
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  Nice price on that one. Wallace over 1 1/2, three
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  pointers. Stefan Castle also going over
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  with him, 15 1/2 points in the game.
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  We'll jump aboard on that WNBA tonight.
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  Sims for Washington, over 9 1/2 points for her this evening.
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  And then over to baseball. 2 pitching props and one with a
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  position player. Let's start with Yard on Alvarez
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  against my crappy Twins. Over 1 1/2 total bases, even
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  money on that one. And then two strikeout totals.
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  Sisoni for the Guardians tonight, we're going to go under
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  4 1/2 strikeouts for him. And Weathers for the Yankees
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  tonight over 5 1/2 KS as they take on the Blue Jays.
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  Those are the picks. We got eight of them in the
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  books for today. Sisoni under strikeouts,
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  Weathers over Montreal Canadiens plus one O 4.
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  Alvarez over 1 1/2 total bases. Sims over 9 1/2 points, Spurs.
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  Wallace over 1 1/2 threes and Stefan Castle over 15 1/2
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  points. That is the prop bets for today
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  Out of time for today, Back at it tomorrow.
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  Have Nick Marvitz back with me as Ken takes a couple more days
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  off using that PTL. Thanks for being with us.
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  Off the Bench is up next on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.