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- 0:03Speaker 1: Bueno, como esta?
- 0:04Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, here's Mike and Bo.
- 0:07Speaker 3: You guys are the most entertaining sports program in the world.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Drop it, Bo. Drop it, baby. No, no, stop twerking.
- 0:15Speaker 1: You and I are a couple eating, like, Lady and
- 0:17Speaker 1: the Tramp. You're the lady on the tramp.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Yeah!
- 0:20Speaker 5: Cabo!
- 0:21Speaker 1: Cabo, baby! I wish I was Boopy. Boopy McClain, man.
- 0:24Speaker 1: That's a great name. All aboard!
- 0:41Speaker 2: Oh my, the Panthers get routed. They do it differently
- 0:45Speaker 2: this time. At least they gave us a little variety
- 0:47Speaker 2: in terms of which side of the ball was not
- 0:50Speaker 2: prepared to start the regular season.
- 0:52Speaker 1: We will talk about it today. All about the 59-37 loss.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Try to squeeze in some conversation about how good Bryce
- 1:00Speaker 2: Young and Brad Idzik in the offense looked. But unfortunately,
- 1:04Speaker 2: that is a distant second in terms of what we
- 1:07Speaker 2: care about today.
- 1:09Speaker 1: We will talk about it on the show.
- 1:11Speaker 2: We got tons of college football to recap. We had
- 1:13Speaker 2: a bunch of winning going on, at least on Saturday,
- 1:15Speaker 2: for teams in the Carolinas.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Some of those wins, big wins.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Thrilling we will talk about it here today on the
- 1:23Speaker 2: mac and bone show and then nationally in college football
- 1:27Speaker 2: the buck guys i just try to keep telling myself
- 1:29Speaker 2: when i get upset about the panthers defense the buck
- 1:31Speaker 2: guys blew a 20 point lead in the fourth quarter
- 1:33Speaker 2: y'all like if that doesn't make america happy 49 states
- 1:37Speaker 2: happy i don't know what does um uh oregon goes
- 1:41Speaker 2: down there goes my national my national champ losing a
- 1:44Speaker 2: game losing a game very early and michigan Should we
- 1:49Speaker 2: have seen it coming? Should we have seen it coming
- 1:51Speaker 2: or no? Or should we have not seen it coming?
- 1:53Speaker 2: By the way, I'm done with Oklahoma. I just I'm
- 1:55Speaker 2: done with them. I know no one cares in the
- 1:57Speaker 2: state of Oklahoma or the state of North Carolina, but I'm.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Done with them.
- 2:01Speaker 2: We'll talk about it all today on the Mac and
- 2:04Speaker 2: Bone show. But, you know, this is a full tilt
- 2:06Speaker 2: Panther Monday as we try to figure out how we
- 2:10Speaker 2: dropped a Luke Keekly. On defense, this was not a
- 2:14Speaker 2: good Luke Geekly tribute, giving up 59 points. Bone is here,
- 2:18Speaker 2: the fit dog is here, and you are here. What's up, Boney?
- 2:22Speaker 2: What's up with you?
- 2:23Speaker 6: Normally, this is where I drop in a funny bro
- 2:26Speaker 6: name for you, but we're going to put that on
- 2:28Speaker 6: hold today after yesterday's violent bear attack. that ravaged the
- 2:33Speaker 6: city of Charlotte. I'm not in a laughing mood today.
- 2:35Speaker 6: We were mauled yesterday, so let's just cut the jokes,
- 2:39Speaker 6: cut the humor, and get right to what happened yesterday. Okay, man,
- 2:43Speaker 6: this is serious. I was also mauled by Murphy on Saturday,
- 2:47Speaker 6: but more on that later.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Would you rather be attacked by your dog Murphy or
- 2:50Speaker 2: an actual live bear?
- 2:51Speaker 6: I was left bleeding on Saturday and Sunday. One by Bears,
- 2:55Speaker 6: one by Murphy.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Is this a descendant of Cujo that you have adopted?
- 2:59Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder. This wasn't intentional. I don't think
- 3:01Speaker 1: it was. I don't think it was.
- 3:03Speaker 6: But, hey, God gave you ten fingers for a reason.
- 3:05Speaker 6: You lose one, you got more to work with. Okay,
- 3:08Speaker 6: I like that attitude, baby. I like that attitude.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Sports is crazy.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Sports is crazy, and we saw it in some college
- 3:18Speaker 2: football outcomes, and you saw it on Sunday that we
- 3:21Speaker 2: have been obsessing, Bone, for weeks here about the offense.
- 3:26Speaker 2: after a rough preseason for the offense. I thought the
- 3:28Speaker 2: first team defense was all right in the preseason. And
- 3:32Speaker 2: we obsessed over the offense. We obsessed over the recent
- 3:35Speaker 2: history of offensive ineptitude in the season openers. And then
- 3:40Speaker 2: the Panthers go out there. The offense puts up 37 points.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Bryce throws for 361. But the defense historically plays the
- 3:50Speaker 2: worst game they have ever played. The unit that we
- 3:54Speaker 2: have talked about all summer, and we think we got
- 3:56Speaker 2: a top 10 unit on your hands, text us in.
- 3:58Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 3:59Speaker 2: Top 10 unit? They go out there and give up
- 4:02Speaker 2: 59 points.
- 4:05Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's freaking crazy.
- 4:07Speaker 6: We knew that this was going to be a game
- 4:09Speaker 6: where the Bears scored. You're not going to stop them completely.
- 4:13Speaker 6: We thought, well, if they get into the 30s, that
- 4:16Speaker 6: might be a problem. We did not anticipate them getting
- 4:19Speaker 6: into the 30s right by halftime and putting on a
- 4:23Speaker 6: display where they scored the most points ever against the
- 4:27Speaker 6: Panthers by a full seven points. The 59 clears that
- 4:32Speaker 6: bar by seven because the previous two were both 52-point
- 4:36Speaker 6: efforts that the Panthers gave up the most. So 59
- 4:38Speaker 6: is the most by a full touchdown. And the alarming
- 4:42Speaker 6: part about it is that's the star-studded part of the team.
- 4:47Speaker 6: That's where we look at where the money is, where
- 4:49Speaker 6: the stars are, where outside of Bryce, and I know
- 4:52Speaker 6: T-Mac's in there, but a lot of when players get ranked, Mac,
- 4:56Speaker 6: In the NFL this season, most of those guys come
- 4:59Speaker 6: from the defense.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Derrick Brown, J.C. Horn, Devin Lloyd.
- 5:03Speaker 6: It's those guys right there where this team is going
- 5:06Speaker 6: to be built for the long haul all around is
- 5:08Speaker 6: the defensive players. And that's what is most surprising is
- 5:12Speaker 6: that it was just an absolute reckoning yesterday. One hundred
- 5:15Speaker 6: sixty five million spent on Phillips and Lloyd and you
- 5:18Speaker 6: give up fifty nine points in the opener. It is
- 5:21Speaker 6: beyond frustrating.
- 5:23Speaker 1: It really is.
- 5:25Speaker 2: And I don't even know where to start. I mean,
- 5:27Speaker 2: the vision I keep going back to is Caleb Williams.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And we talked about how he was number two in
- 5:34Speaker 2: pressure to sack rate last year.
- 5:36Speaker 1: So you can pressure him. But good luck getting him down.
- 5:38Speaker 2: We talked, Bone, about his scramble yards. We talked about
- 5:42Speaker 2: that stuff. But the vision I get from yesterday's game
- 5:45Speaker 2: is us losing contain, not keeping him. We talked about
- 5:49Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy you've got to contain rush
- 5:51Speaker 2: and keep trapped in the pocket. How many times did
- 5:54Speaker 2: we let him? escape the pocket, most of the time
- 5:57Speaker 2: to the outside, and do severe damage, either running the
- 6:01Speaker 2: ball or passing the ball. That's the first vision I get.
- 6:06Speaker 2: The second vision I get is them running the ball
- 6:09Speaker 2: right at our freaking faces, and we can't do anything
- 6:13Speaker 2: about it to the tune of almost 300 yards. two
- 6:16Speaker 2: 100-yard rushers, and then Caleb Williams throws in 65 yards,
- 6:21Speaker 2: the majority of those scrambling. That's what I can't stop
- 6:26Speaker 2: thinking about, those two aspects of the beatdown for the defense.
- 6:30Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't even like the Bears were
- 6:33Speaker 6: being challenged on those plays. We said all week, not
- 6:37Speaker 6: that they're listening to us, but we did say all week,
- 6:39Speaker 6: when Caleb Williams breaks containment, that's when he's at his
- 6:43Speaker 6: most dangerous. That's when he makes plays with his legs,
- 6:46Speaker 6: with his arm down to field. When the play breaks
- 6:48Speaker 6: down and it becomes like recess football. That's when Caleb
- 6:52Speaker 6: Williams shines the most. So you have to contain him, Mac,
- 6:55Speaker 6: the best you can inside the pocket. I would like
- 6:58Speaker 6: an APB out for Princely to maybe contain an edge.
- 7:02Speaker 6: Can you contain one edge, Princely? I beg you. I
- 7:05Speaker 6: believe in you still. But can you contain one edge?
- 7:08Speaker 6: And not just him. He was the biggest violation. But
- 7:12Speaker 6: Phillips had it happen a couple of times. Phillips also
- 7:14Speaker 6: made some really good plays, including the sack. But he
- 7:17Speaker 6: had it happen a couple times. Jeremiah Moon, who we
- 7:20Speaker 6: moved up from practice squad on Saturday, he had it happen.
- 7:27Speaker 6: Travis Gibson made some plays, but he had it happen.
- 7:31Speaker 6: The amount of times you let him escape. And listen,
- 7:33Speaker 6: it's easier said than done, Bone. You and I can't
- 7:35Speaker 6: go out there and keep Caleb Williams.
- 7:36Speaker 1: In the damn pocket. And I will say this.
- 7:41Speaker 2: You definitely saw us missing guys like Nick Skorton and
- 7:44Speaker 2: Pat Jones. But it shouldn't be 59 points because you
- 7:47Speaker 2: don't have Nick Skorton and Pat Jones.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Right. And I just, if you and I.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Talked about it, Bone, do you think they talked about
- 7:53Speaker 2: it in the defensive meeting rooms?
- 7:54Speaker 4: 100%.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Like, that's the thing. It's like, and Avero's got to
- 7:59Speaker 2: get bashed. There's no doubt about it. And I realize
- 8:02Speaker 2: that some people were ready to fire him two years ago.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So like what I heard his name yesterday in the
- 8:08Speaker 2: press box on the street, walking back to the station,
- 8:12Speaker 2: I heard his name so many times. So I understand
- 8:14Speaker 2: where this show is getting ready to go and he
- 8:17Speaker 2: better turn this thing around quickly. There's no doubt about
- 8:20Speaker 2: it because you have the most talent you ever had.
- 8:22Speaker 1: And you just gave up the most points you've ever had.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But there was a lot of lack of execution, too,
- 8:26Speaker 2: where we can blame players as well. Will Lee, I
- 8:30Speaker 2: found myself yesterday questioning the plan to go that much
- 8:35Speaker 2: with rookie Will Lee on the outside so you can
- 8:37Speaker 2: play Horn a bunch. Horn played 20 snaps according to
- 8:40Speaker 2: PFF in the slot, and I found myself questioning that.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck happened to Will Lee
- 8:46Speaker 2: on that deep ball. I mean, he was, he turned around,
- 8:51Speaker 2: saw the guy way behind him.
- 8:53Speaker 1: The blanket got put in the Snuggie. Holy crap.
- 8:55Speaker 2: He turned around, saw that dude way behind him, Adunze,
- 9:00Speaker 2: and didn't really show any urgency to get back there.
- 9:03Speaker 2: He was like jogging, like, oh, I guess I ought
- 9:06Speaker 2: to make my way over there. Meanwhile, the ball's in
- 9:08Speaker 2: the air over his head. He has no idea, didn't
- 9:11Speaker 2: even look back, and then proceeded to get mossed like crazy.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So I find myself wondering when we talk inevitably about
- 9:19Speaker 2: Averro all day today, like, should they have gone Shaw-Smith-Wade
- 9:23Speaker 2: and not, like, is Will Lee not ready to play
- 9:26Speaker 2: outside in this league as a rookie right away? so
- 9:29Speaker 2: therefore the horn inside thing shouldn't have happened? I think
- 9:32Speaker 2: that's a question. There's a lot of questions about the defense.
- 9:36Speaker 2: You give up 59 points, Bone. We got something for everybody, man.
- 9:41Speaker 2: There is something for everybody today on that side of
- 9:44Speaker 2: the ball, including Derrick Brown. And he was accountable as heck.
- 9:48Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it afterwards, which you would expect
- 9:50Speaker 2: him to be. But when your best football player makes
- 9:53Speaker 2: two mistakes like that, And cost you, that's 11 points
- 9:57Speaker 2: worth of mistakes right there. Yeah, he was Justin bad
- 10:00Speaker 2: as anybody was yesterday the late hit and i believe
- 10:03Speaker 2: it was a mistake on him i ain't gonna cry
- 10:05Speaker 2: about the refs i thought it was unnecessary i did
- 10:07Speaker 2: and then brentson buckner well tweeted me and said you
- 10:10Speaker 2: know what captain right there can't put himself Unnecessary.
- 10:13Speaker 1: You guys have done an amazing job. Me and Buck
- 10:15Speaker 1: have been in the trenches before, obviously. On that rep,
- 10:18Speaker 1: they did an amazing job. Princely got Rush.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Then it was Phillips and Brown, and they made Caleb
- 10:25Speaker 2: Williams throw a back foot fall away pass that went incomplete.
- 10:29Speaker 1: It's about to be third and 20. You're going to
- 10:31Speaker 1: hold him to a field goal, which would have made
- 10:32Speaker 1: it 34-31.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Instead, you hit him. That's a four point. They score touchdowns,
- 10:38Speaker 2: a four point play. Then how about Bobby Brown? And
- 10:42Speaker 2: by the way, he played his he worked his ass
- 10:44Speaker 2: off with a horrible foot situation.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual injury is.
- 10:49Speaker 2: He came off the field about five times, looked like
- 10:51Speaker 2: he was done every time, and kept fighting and fighting
- 10:54Speaker 2: and fighting. He makes an amazing play for a big fella,
- 10:56Speaker 2: tipping it near and intercepting. I don't know why he
- 10:58Speaker 2: ran it out of the end zone, but anyway. And
- 11:00Speaker 2: Derek Brown's offside. That's seven points. Eleven points on your
- 11:05Speaker 2: best player making two mistakes. That can't happen either.
- 11:09Speaker 6: No, it can, and that's why Averro is the headliner,
- 11:13Speaker 6: and I get it. You can't have a day like
- 11:16Speaker 6: that in the D.C. not have almost full segments about him.
- 11:20Speaker 6: But you mentioned hearing the name Averro, Mac, when you're
- 11:24Speaker 6: in the press box, when you're leaving the game. Lord knows—
- 11:27Speaker 6: how many tweets and various messages I got about Averro.
- 11:30Speaker 6: But there's got to be also player accountability as well. Like,
- 11:36Speaker 6: you don't hear people complaining about Derrick Brown because we
- 11:39Speaker 6: love Derrick Brown. And I'm often in the camp of...
- 11:42Speaker 6: Dude can't really do very much wrong, but he needs
- 11:44Speaker 6: a lot of blame like you just gave from yesterday
- 11:46Speaker 6: as well. Everybody on that defense, you give up 59,
- 11:50Speaker 6: an historically bad day, everybody gets some of the blame.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Coaches, players, everybody's involved. I will say this. There were
- 11:56Speaker 2: multiple times where Brad Johnson, Brad Johnson. That was my
- 12:03Speaker 2: man's name. Why am I blanking?
- 12:05Speaker 1: Who are you talking about? The damn court. Ben Johnson.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Okay. Who are you talking about?
- 12:09Speaker 2: The offensive genius that hung 59 on our asses.
- 12:13Speaker 6: I thought you may be referencing Brad Inzik on the
- 12:15Speaker 6: other side. That's why I didn't know what you were
- 12:16Speaker 6: talking about. There were numerous times.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I want to forget this man. He tortured us. There
- 12:21Speaker 2: were numerous times where Ben Johnson schemed guys open, where
- 12:26Speaker 2: we were completely outcoached to where he runs a play
- 12:30Speaker 2: and I'll go back to the one that Drew Brees
- 12:34Speaker 2: talked about, where Adunzie goes in motion, comes through the B-gap,
- 12:41Speaker 2: sucks the defense over, boom, the pass is outside. Stuff
- 12:44Speaker 2: like that. How about the blitz that we run on
- 12:47Speaker 2: third down with Scott? And all Caleb Williams has to
- 12:54Speaker 2: do is, oh, I'll just throw it where you came from,
- 12:57Speaker 2: where Cole Komet is standing there by himself with no
- 13:00Speaker 2: one in the same area code. So there was stuff
- 13:02Speaker 2: like that where I'm like, schemed us. Completely schemed us.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Completely outcoached.
- 13:10Speaker 6: His goal was to set a record for points.
- 13:11Speaker 1: He's off to a good start for that record.
- 13:13Speaker 4: I know.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I hate it.
- 13:14Speaker 2: I hate the fact that that arrogant SOB And how
- 13:18Speaker 2: arrogant is it to go on your own 21? I'm
- 13:20Speaker 2: glad we made him pay for that, but we couldn't
- 13:21Speaker 2: ultimately make him pay for it. But how arrogant is it, Bone,
- 13:25Speaker 2: when a coach says that stuff in the offseason? And
- 13:28Speaker 2: the fact that we went out there and validated those
- 13:30Speaker 2: damn arrogant comments by letting him score 59, I freaking
- 13:35Speaker 2: hate it.
- 13:35Speaker 1: I hate it. God, I want to shove those words
- 13:38Speaker 1: up his fat trap. But we can't. Taught to talk
- 13:41Speaker 1: and walk the walk. He just.
- 13:43Speaker 2: He did what he said he was going to do. Oh,
- 13:45Speaker 2: we helped him walk across the street. We held his
- 13:47Speaker 2: hand while he was walking.
- 13:48Speaker 6: Here is the craziest part about the box score. All
- 13:51Speaker 6: these numbers. What was the total yardage there?
- 13:54Speaker 1: I have the sheet right here. 552.
- 13:57Speaker 6: 552, 59 points. Colson Loveland, a guy we were concerned about.
- 14:00Speaker 6: Two targets, no catches, no yards. They scored 59 points,
- 14:04Speaker 6: and the guy who I thought going in still might
- 14:07Speaker 6: be their overall best offensive player going forward, and didn't
- 14:11Speaker 6: do anything yesterday. They scored 59 points, and that guy
- 14:14Speaker 6: did nothing. And Komet had two for 35. Hell of
- 14:16Speaker 6: a catch, hell of a dime from Williams. Right over
- 14:20Speaker 6: the top of Devin Lloyd. And the receivers made their plays,
- 14:23Speaker 6: but it was the running up the middle was really
- 14:26Speaker 6: what the 291 rushing yards is really the biggest issue
- 14:30Speaker 6: the whole entire day.
- 14:31Speaker 2: I thought that and Williams improvising.
- 14:34Speaker 5: Yes.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Getting out the pocket and making plays out the pocket,
- 14:37Speaker 2: whether it's running plays, whether it is. And by the way,
- 14:40Speaker 2: we'll talk about this. I'm a bitch about all this
- 14:42Speaker 2: stuff 17 times today. I'm just going to relentlessly bitch
- 14:46Speaker 2: about all this stuff I saw. What the F was
- 14:49Speaker 2: going on on those two Caleb Williams touchdown runs in
- 14:52Speaker 2: the end zone? What are our defensive backs doing as
- 14:56Speaker 2: they're being blocked in the end zone while the other
- 14:58Speaker 2: team runs into the end zone?
- 15:01Speaker 1: How long was that one run?
- 15:03Speaker 3: 25?
- 15:03Speaker 1: Was it 25?
- 15:04Speaker 4: 29.
- 15:04Speaker 6: Not even remotely challenged.
- 15:07Speaker 1: What was Merrick doing on that play? I have no idea.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Does anybody have any idea? He got blocked, just turned
- 15:12Speaker 2: around and ran out the back of the end zone.
- 15:14Speaker 2: By the way, did you have any idea Trayvon Merrick
- 15:17Speaker 2: was on the field other than that play? Holy crap,
- 15:22Speaker 2: what a lack of showing the F up.
- 15:25Speaker 6: I saw him one time in the background of a play,
- 15:27Speaker 6: but I did not see him make any plays.
- 15:29Speaker 2: You're supposed to be one of our studs, man. I
- 15:31Speaker 2: didn't even know you were on the field. And then
- 15:33Speaker 2: the other one, Horn and Mike Jack. The first one
- 15:35Speaker 2: where Princely let him get out, broke contain, and he
- 15:38Speaker 2: ran in for the touchdown the first half. How easy
- 15:41Speaker 2: was it for their receivers to block that? Horn and
- 15:45Speaker 2: Mike Jack. Oh, I mean, it was just like the Horn.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Put up a damn fight. He's running into the end zone.
- 15:51Speaker 2: I thought you were asking me a question. Like, I just, man,
- 15:54Speaker 2: I just, that's infuriating. It's upsetting. It really is upsetting.
- 15:57Speaker 2: And then the real upsetting thing is Bryce Young plays
- 16:00Speaker 2: so good, and it's a footnote.
- 16:02Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's a footnote.
- 16:05Speaker 6: That's the most— I tweeted it, and look, there's been games
- 16:08Speaker 6: in Atlanta. We've seen him have moments before, especially against
- 16:12Speaker 6: the Falcons, where he looks insanely comfortable. But yesterday, Mack
- 16:16Speaker 6: was the best I think he has ever won from
- 16:18Speaker 6: a comfort level, throwing the football level. That throw to
- 16:22Speaker 6: Coker down the sideline.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Dime.
- 16:23Speaker 6: Remember we said, can Darryl Bevel's presence— maybe unlock some
- 16:27Speaker 6: of the deep shot moon balls that Russell Wilson was
- 16:30Speaker 6: known for in Seattle. Did not, did not not look
- 16:32Speaker 6: like a vintage Russell Wilson moon ball into the bucket
- 16:36Speaker 6: type throw.
- 16:36Speaker 1: It was a great pass. Unbelievable. But Coker, Coker, by
- 16:38Speaker 1: the way, awesome yesterday. Unbelievable. Unfreakable. I thought Chuba was
- 16:42Speaker 1: real good.
- 16:43Speaker 2: So I thought some, I thought the tight ends made
- 16:45Speaker 2: some plays like there's, that's the thing. And that's the
- 16:47Speaker 2: thing is the side of the ball we were worried
- 16:49Speaker 2: about was that good. There's something to be said for that.
- 16:54Speaker 2: And the defense will get better. But shoot, they started
- 16:58Speaker 2: in a really bad place. I'm sorry I yelled at you, Bone,
- 17:02Speaker 2: after I asked you a question. Little Boney and Little
- 17:05Speaker 2: Fitty need to know today, Daddy is not mad at you.
- 17:08Speaker 2: All right? Daddy is mad at the Carolina Panthers defense.
- 17:11Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I take it out on you. Well,
- 17:13Speaker 2: I need to know, when you're asking questions, are you
- 17:15Speaker 2: asking me.
- 17:16Speaker 6: Or just rhetorical questions? Because you said something about something.
- 17:20Speaker 1: And I tried to answer you. How easy was it
- 17:21Speaker 1: for them to be blocked? You know what today is
- 17:23Speaker 1: going to involve, Fitty? By the way, good morning, Fitty.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Good morning, guys. Do you know what today's going to involve, Finney?
- 17:27Speaker 1: A lot of mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I may just do that
- 17:31Speaker 1: the whole entire show today. Go ahead, girl. Excuse me?
- 17:36Speaker 1: Let's not use that one. I'm sorry?
- 17:38Speaker 2: I feel like you experimented with that, much like an
- 17:40Speaker 2: Avero play call yesterday.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Let's not use that one.
- 17:43Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Panthers daddy.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Mac D calls his daddy there during that.
- 17:50Speaker 7: I kind of like Daddy Mac energy, though. I'm here
- 17:52Speaker 7: for Daddy Mac.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Daddy's not mad at you, too, all right? Daddy is
- 17:55Speaker 2: mad at his football team's defense. You think that was
- 17:58Speaker 2: said yesterday in Charlotte? You think that was said to
- 18:02Speaker 2: kids anywhere in Charlotte yesterday?
- 18:04Speaker 1: Daddy is not mad at you now. We got called
- 18:06Speaker 1: daddy yesterday. No, we called them daddy. No, someone got
- 18:10Speaker 1: called daddy yesterday.
- 18:11Speaker 7: Guys, we got Bama Bryce yesterday.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 18:14Speaker 7: And we lost by 22 damn points.
- 18:16Speaker 1: God, man.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And we were tied 31-31 mid-third quarter. How fast did
- 18:21Speaker 2: that game get away from us? He was making some
- 18:23Speaker 2: plays in the pocket. He had a little shimmy moving.
- 18:26Speaker 1: He was toying with those guys. Toying with those guys.
- 18:30Speaker 7: I mean, I was ready to give him a contract
- 18:31Speaker 7: in the middle of the third quarter.
- 18:34Speaker 1: He was amazing. He was amazing. I had him in
- 18:36Speaker 1: the MVP race in the first quarter yesterday. I got
- 18:38Speaker 1: a great idea, though.
- 18:39Speaker 2: How about after one football game, we don't hand out
- 18:42Speaker 2: a contract and a pink slip? How about we let
- 18:44Speaker 2: this thing go? But Bryce Young, you're right. It was
- 18:47Speaker 2: Bama Bryce. The jukes and the fine. Let me get
- 18:50Speaker 2: away from you. Let me get away from you.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Oh, he's open.
- 18:53Speaker 2: That was tremendous. And again, the Bears defense stinks. Isn't
- 18:56Speaker 2: it so funny how much we talked about how horrible
- 18:58Speaker 2: the Bears defense was all week? And then we go out,
- 19:01Speaker 2: put up 59. I guess that's not funny, actually. What
- 19:03Speaker 2: the hell am I talking about?
- 19:04Speaker 1: It's sad.
- 19:05Speaker 2: It's the opposite of funny. But that Bears defense is
- 19:07Speaker 2: who we thought they were. There is no doubt about it.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Maybe even worse.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Cokers double move. In the first drive
- 19:14Speaker 2: on Jalen Johnson.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Oh, my God. All right. When we come back. Oh,
- 19:20Speaker 1: Kyle Larson won. Bogey. I know you're excited, Kyle Larson.
- 19:26Speaker 1: 51 race.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Windlass Street is over, Bogey. He's coming, boys. You talk
- 19:31Speaker 2: about daddy being home. The champ is here, Bo. He's
- 19:34Speaker 2: been running better the last month.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Oh, it's happening, baby. I'm just going to let you
- 19:39Speaker 1: get it out of your system. They raced in St. Louis,
- 19:40Speaker 1: by the way.
- 19:41Speaker 7: There were like 19 cautions yesterday, by the way.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Those boys couldn't drive. My God.
- 19:46Speaker 2: That was brutal. It's like a bunch of labellos out
- 19:49Speaker 2: there driving. in the back of the pack.
- 19:51Speaker 6: When you come back, the college football weekend recap segment,
- 19:55Speaker 6: big wins for App, Duke, and Wake Forest. Clemson has
- 19:59Speaker 6: a QB situation on their hands and big wins in
- 20:03Speaker 6: terms of margin for State, the Heels, the Gamecocks, and
- 20:07Speaker 6: some shocking stuff within the top 25.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Mack Bone, Phinney Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 20:32Speaker 4: Guys, we got a big-time quarterback. We got an absolutely
- 20:35Speaker 4: big-time quarterback.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Facts, okay?
- 20:37Speaker 4: In the toughest moments, in the biggest spots, taking hits, running,
- 20:41Speaker 4: whatever it takes, this guy's willing to do. He's an
- 20:43Speaker 4: ultimate competitor. He embodies built in the dark. So damn
- 20:46Speaker 4: proud of that kid, man. This guy's such a big-time
- 20:48Speaker 4: freaking player, and we got him here at Wake Forest.
- 20:52Speaker 4: All the Demon Deacons, man, should be so proud of
- 20:53Speaker 4: that kid and that offense. We dominated a lot of
- 20:56Speaker 4: scrimmage on offense, okay? When we walked off the field
- 20:58Speaker 4: last week, we knew we had to do something physical
- 21:02Speaker 4: and running the ball. And, you know, we did all that.
- 21:05Speaker 4: And Gio Lopez is the catalyst for that. So.
- 21:15Speaker 2: I'm told that's Jake Dickert. I just was running my
- 21:18Speaker 2: yapper to Bone the whole time. That is him raving
- 21:21Speaker 2: about Gio Lopez. It is amazing to me. And Gio
- 21:25Speaker 2: scores the winning touchdown on what looked like a bum ankle,
- 21:29Speaker 2: by the way.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Winning touchdown, Bone. He runs it in.
- 21:32Speaker 2: The winning two-point conversion in a double overtime 38-36 thriller
- 21:38Speaker 2: by Wake Forest. How amazing and how different does Gio
- 21:43Speaker 2: Lopez look from the one at North Carolina? Again, I
- 21:47Speaker 2: can't say it enough. When you put a player in
- 21:50Speaker 2: a position to succeed in a scheme he's comfortable in,
- 21:53Speaker 2: It's amazing how much more you can get out of
- 21:56Speaker 2: a player. This offense is the Robby Zell offense from
- 22:02Speaker 2: South Alabama, and it just is glorious to watch, man.
- 22:06Speaker 1: It really is.
- 22:07Speaker 6: Not every quarterback fits every system. UNC got desperate for
- 22:10Speaker 6: a quarterback last year. Gio Lopez was attainable. They tried
- 22:13Speaker 6: to pigeonhole him in there. Did not work, and now
- 22:16Speaker 6: he goes back to– a system where he looks like
- 22:19Speaker 6: he belongs, and now he is not only a good quarterback,
- 22:23Speaker 6: a high-level quarterback. And there's a theme back when it
- 22:26Speaker 6: comes to two teams in the ACC that we'll talk
- 22:29Speaker 6: about here. That's Jake Dickert at Wake Forest and Manny
- 22:32Speaker 6: Diaz at Duke. We talked all summer about, hey, can
- 22:36Speaker 6: they sustain momentum that Diaz has built the first two
- 22:39Speaker 6: years and Dickert did year one. Then you watch them
- 22:42Speaker 6: the other day and you realize it may not always
- 22:44Speaker 6: be The prettiest. It may not always be like blowout wins.
- 22:48Speaker 6: Those two guys right there, Dickert especially, they just find ways, man.
- 22:52Speaker 6: Those boys can coach. They just find ways to win
- 22:55Speaker 6: football games. They can freaking coach. And the play by Hernandez,
- 22:59Speaker 6: who is a hell of a player. The play on
- 23:02Speaker 6: fourth and 15 Hernandez.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And if they weren't going to overturn that, finally, Big
- 23:06Speaker 2: Ten replay gets something right this season. If they weren't
- 23:09Speaker 2: going to overturn that, because he 100% got to the
- 23:12Speaker 2: yard line on fourth and 15. If they weren't going
- 23:15Speaker 2: to overturn that, I was going to lose my mind
- 23:18Speaker 2: on behalf of the Deeks. But they did, and they
- 23:20Speaker 2: cashed in the touchdown. I mean, Purdue had a fourth
- 23:23Speaker 2: down touchdown. touchdown, like, under pressure, heave into the end zone,
- 23:28Speaker 2: the possession before that. Like, that was an amazing game,
- 23:32Speaker 2: and Wake fans should be so freaking happy with that dub, man.
- 23:37Speaker 6: Blew the late lead, but yet had the resolve to
- 23:39Speaker 6: still hang on in the overtime. So, I mean, that
- 23:42Speaker 6: lead evaporated quickly down the stretch for Wake. Dude, that
- 23:44Speaker 6: running back for Purdue, he's your boy? Holy heck. How
- 23:48Speaker 6: does Purdue, we say this during portal season, how does
- 23:51Speaker 6: Purdue back always have so many good players?
- 23:53Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he's going to transfer somewhere. He's going to
- 23:55Speaker 1: transfer somewhere. Every game you watch, you go, yeah, that
- 23:58Speaker 1: guy came from Purdue.
- 23:59Speaker 6: You think Purdue would be a consistent bowl team with
- 24:01Speaker 6: the amount of talent that they have on the team
- 24:03Speaker 6: that goes somewhere else?
- 24:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:06Speaker 2: I was a little disappointed in the Wake defense, giving
- 24:09Speaker 2: up the 36 the way they did. But that was
- 24:12Speaker 2: a hell of a game. Fun game. Big win if
- 24:14Speaker 2: you're a Deke fan. You mentioned Duke, Boney.
- 24:17Speaker 1: What a win.
- 24:18Speaker 2: And again, how many things happened in Week 2 that
- 24:21Speaker 2: were completely contrary to what we saw in Week 1?
- 24:24Speaker 2: Between the Michigan result, the way Oklahoma State played, and
- 24:27Speaker 2: then I'll throw in the way Duke's offense played. and
- 24:30Speaker 2: the way Walter Egett played. I mean, they put up
- 24:33Speaker 2: 31 points, and the defense, by the way, after a
- 24:36Speaker 2: rough first half against Hauser and those boys on Illinois' offense,
- 24:41Speaker 2: gives up only three points in the second half.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Duke beats Illinois 31-27. You had to enjoy that one. Oh,
- 24:47Speaker 1: I did.
- 24:48Speaker 6: And it's, you know, I know that Tulane and Illinois
- 24:51Speaker 6: may not be what they were last year.
- 24:53Speaker 1: We'll see.
- 24:54Speaker 6: Especially on the Illinois part, I don't know. But still,
- 24:56Speaker 6: Duke had a good year last year and lost to
- 24:59Speaker 6: both those teams. So they got some get-back for whatever
- 25:02Speaker 6: it's worth in those two games. They've now got Stanford
- 25:05Speaker 6: and William & Mary coming up. It looks like Duke
- 25:08Speaker 6: is going to be in that Manny Diaz range this
- 25:10Speaker 6: year again because it's a different team, Mac. Last year
- 25:14Speaker 6: it was Mensah and Bargate. Now, and I say this without...
- 25:18Speaker 6: hyperbole and i know people are gonna say i'm being
- 25:20Speaker 6: a homer but i hand to the sky i believe
- 25:22Speaker 6: this nate shepherd right now might be the best running
- 25:26Speaker 6: back in college football he is amazing that guy out
- 25:28Speaker 6: of the backfield the other day whether it's the amount
- 25:30Speaker 6: of yards he had just on the ground total week
- 25:32Speaker 6: number one that guy right now mac is playing the
- 25:35Speaker 6: best running back in all of college football right now
- 25:37Speaker 6: so hard and i've heard some but i have heard
- 25:40Speaker 6: though some terrible things about his character Not a good guy.
- 25:44Speaker 1: He likes to mess up Manny Diaz's hair. What the
- 25:46Speaker 1: heck are you talking about? He's not a good student.
- 25:48Speaker 6: And if I was a team in the portal, because
- 25:52Speaker 6: he's got one more year to go, if I was
- 25:53Speaker 6: a team in the portal this winter, I wouldn't go
- 25:55Speaker 6: anywhere near that guy.
- 25:56Speaker 1: I would stay as far away as possible.
- 25:58Speaker 2: If you were an ACC team in South Florida, you
- 26:01Speaker 2: would have no interest in him on the final day
- 26:02Speaker 2: of the portal.
- 26:03Speaker 6: If Miami takes my Nate train, that may put.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Me back in a place where the walls are padded.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He is amazing, dude. And he added
- 26:13Speaker 2: two receiving touchdowns. He breaks so many tackles. We need
- 26:18Speaker 2: to get the tackle. We had 21 tackles broken in
- 26:20Speaker 2: week number one, I think it was. We need to
- 26:21Speaker 2: get the total of the season.
- 26:23Speaker 1: All right, let me look.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Tackle broken number. Because it's insane, man. It is absolutely insane.
- 26:31Speaker 2: And I will, and I'm not going to say it
- 26:33Speaker 2: every week. I'll drop it today. I am at some
- 26:37Speaker 2: point this year going to fight Doug Walker. I'm going
- 26:38Speaker 2: to find Doug Walker, and me and him are going
- 26:40Speaker 2: to have a fistfight. You're going to the afterlife? Is
- 26:42Speaker 2: that what you're doing?
- 26:43Speaker 1: I don't know where he is now, but I'll find him. Oh,
- 26:45Speaker 1: my God.
- 26:46Speaker 2: PFF had him with 15 in the first game and
- 26:49Speaker 2: seven in the second game.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Okay.
- 26:51Speaker 2: So 22 overall. You probably saw a different, you know,
- 26:54Speaker 2: everybody's different. in terms of the way they do this
- 26:58Speaker 2: and what they count as a missed tackle. For example,
- 27:01Speaker 2: I looked at PFF at the end of the game yesterday,
- 27:04Speaker 2: and the Panthers only had 12 missed tackles. I said,
- 27:06Speaker 2: how the hell is it only 12? Maybe just because
- 27:11Speaker 2: we weren't even close enough, Bone, to try a tackle
- 27:14Speaker 2: on a lot of those runs, I guess.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
- 27:17Speaker 6: Anyway, Shepard's amazing. They missed four tackles on one run
- 27:21Speaker 6: the other day on him.
- 27:25Speaker 2: The Devin Lloyd and Will Lee missed tackle on the
- 27:29Speaker 2: swift run in the first half was upsetting. Devin Lloyd
- 27:31Speaker 2: gave up the touchdown bone. He had some moments. He
- 27:35Speaker 2: had some moments. He had some good moments, too. Ended
- 27:37Speaker 2: up with 11 tackles. But everybody, who am I kidding?
- 27:40Speaker 2: Everybody on our defense had moments. Oh, we're doing a
- 27:43Speaker 2: college football segment, aren't we? By the way, we're not
- 27:45Speaker 2: doing a bitch about the Panthers defense. Every other segment
- 27:49Speaker 2: will be that. Thoughts and prayers to Doug Walker. We
- 27:51Speaker 2: lost him in 1998.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I know. Yes, please. Please.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Somebody else is responsible for him not being on that list, Boney.
- 28:00Speaker 2: How about the App State win, man? You talk about
- 28:02Speaker 2: fan glee. That App State win's got to be right
- 28:05Speaker 2: up there. They own ECU. Oh, my God. They absolutely
- 28:11Speaker 2: own them. Four straight wins. in this series now, and
- 28:16Speaker 2: they don't have anything else scheduled. And ECU might not
- 28:18Speaker 2: want to schedule anything. Malachi Singleton can play. That kid
- 28:22Speaker 2: can play, man. They've got, you never know with these transfers.
- 28:26Speaker 2: And I am, maybe I should hold it back because
- 28:28Speaker 2: last year at this time, I was talking about how
- 28:30Speaker 2: good Swan was at App State.
- 28:32Speaker 1: And things fell apart.
- 28:33Speaker 2: But that kid played a great game the other day,
- 28:36Speaker 2: and he's off to a great start to this season.
- 28:39Speaker 6: What a road rivalry win for Atkins. And Dal Loggins
- 28:42Speaker 6: can coach, too, Mac. Remember, the main reason he got
- 28:45Speaker 6: this job was from the work a couple years ago
- 28:48Speaker 6: with Lenora Sellers. And now it feels like he's doing
- 28:51Speaker 6: similar work right now with the overall game of Malachi Singleton.
- 28:55Speaker 6: That's a huge program win for App. Not that it's
- 28:58Speaker 6: shocking that they won, but when Dow Loggins got the
- 29:02Speaker 6: job and into this year also, we talked about trying
- 29:06Speaker 6: to reestablish momentum. It's a program at a crossroads. Who
- 29:09Speaker 6: is App State.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Now in this time period?
- 29:12Speaker 6: And last year they were trying to figure it out
- 29:14Speaker 6: but the other day i was the first time in
- 29:16Speaker 6: a while i got app like vibes like they went
- 29:19Speaker 6: in there they didn't just win the game they controlled
- 29:23Speaker 6: most of that football game like like that was their
- 29:26Speaker 6: game and they didn't just all of a sudden rally
- 29:28Speaker 6: late and some fluky thing happened they were the better
- 29:31Speaker 6: football team that day and they're the better program right
- 29:34Speaker 6: now and.
- 29:34Speaker 2: They did it oh the better damn look at you
- 29:38Speaker 2: Cause you were all about to be, see you on Friday.
- 29:41Speaker 1: It felt like.
- 29:43Speaker 6: But App showed me something in that game the other day.
- 29:47Speaker 1: They had 13 penalties and seven false starts.
- 29:50Speaker 2: I mean, they kept shooting themselves in the foot over
- 29:51Speaker 2: and over again.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Still were up 10 late in this game. Their defense, too.
- 29:56Speaker 2: I mean, I know that was part of the preseason
- 29:58Speaker 2: conversation we've been having about App. This defense has to
- 30:01Speaker 2: get back to the standard. There's no doubt in my
- 30:03Speaker 2: mind this defense has improved. The plays that they were
- 30:07Speaker 2: making the other day.
- 30:08Speaker 6: By the way, Matt, ECU goes on the road to
- 30:10Speaker 6: ODU on Saturday. They're not favored in that. ODU's favored
- 30:14Speaker 6: in that game. So it's not out of the realm
- 30:17Speaker 6: of possibility that ECU starts as your 0-3.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 30:20Speaker 6: I don't mean we'll analyze that game as we go
- 30:22Speaker 6: along here. ODU got hiney-smacked by Virginia Tech, but they're
- 30:27Speaker 6: not favored.
- 30:28Speaker 2: They're the road underdog in that game. We have lost
- 30:30Speaker 2: Pirate Bone, Finney. We have lost Pirate Bone. Pirate Bone
- 30:33Speaker 2: was a good man during the summer. My ship has
- 30:35Speaker 2: been sunk. Oh, man, we'll talk about it more. App
- 30:40Speaker 2: holding ECU to two of 13 on third downs. The
- 30:44Speaker 2: portal guys making plays as pass catchers pick it. Few
- 30:47Speaker 2: get the tight end. God, if you're an app fan,
- 30:50Speaker 2: you've got to be fired up today. Hit us up
- 30:53Speaker 2: on the text line.
- 30:54Speaker 1: All right, Bone.
- 30:56Speaker 2: So Clemson wins by 15 the other night in a
- 30:59Speaker 2: game that didn't– I mean, it seemed like every game
- 31:02Speaker 2: damn near played in the Carolinas had some sort of
- 31:05Speaker 2: weather delay.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 31:07Speaker 2: And when these games are blowouts and they have weather delays,
- 31:10Speaker 2: it's like, why are we even restarting this? Like the
- 31:13Speaker 2: UNC and the South Carolina games. It's like, oh, joy,
- 31:16Speaker 2: we're restarting these games. Clemson Boned wins 22-7. Their defense
- 31:24Speaker 2: played exponentially better. We do have to note they played
- 31:29Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and not LSU. The offense, Tate Reynolds did
- 31:34Speaker 2: so many good things in the first half. That offense
- 31:37Speaker 2: in the second half, oh, my God. That was ugly.
- 31:41Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you thought, all right, well, this is
- 31:43Speaker 6: a game where maybe the offense for Clemson can at least,
- 31:48Speaker 6: you know, explode to some levels there, but it was
- 31:51Speaker 6: not exactly– a performance that I think made Clemson fans
- 31:57Speaker 6: feel better about stuff. And now that spread for UNC
- 32:01Speaker 6: Clemson on Saturday. Oh, how things can change when a
- 32:05Speaker 6: season begins. In Death Valley, it's now the Clemson Tigers
- 32:10Speaker 6: favored by three points over the heels. Three points back.
- 32:15Speaker 6: Think about if I would have told you that weeks ago.
- 32:17Speaker 6: That when we get to this point of the season,
- 32:19Speaker 6: Clemson will be favored by just three over Carolina, you
- 32:22Speaker 6: would say.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Excuse me? But that's where we are. It's crazy.
- 32:25Speaker 2: And I'm thinking it's going to be a hell of
- 32:28Speaker 2: a game. Carolina did some more really good things. against
- 32:33Speaker 2: East Tennessee State University. Poor Will Healy was going to
- 32:36Speaker 2: lose his mind. When they scored the touchdown and got
- 32:39Speaker 2: the holding penalty, ETSU, and then had a penalty right
- 32:41Speaker 2: after that, and next thing you know, they're kicking a
- 32:44Speaker 2: field goal that they missed. I thought Will Healy was
- 32:47Speaker 2: going to– I thought his head was going to explode
- 32:49Speaker 2: at that point, Bone.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 32:51Speaker 2: But Clemson will start Tate Reynolds because Pete Nakos reported
- 32:56Speaker 2: that Vizina– Does have an injury to his non-throwing elbow.
- 33:01Speaker 2: So it wasn't just like a benching. You know, Dabo
- 33:05Speaker 2: mentioned his arm is not feeling good and stuff like that.
- 33:08Speaker 2: It does sound like there's an injury there. And he's expected,
- 33:11Speaker 2: according to Nakos, to miss one to two weeks. So
- 33:14Speaker 2: it is going to be the Tate Reynolds show. I
- 33:15Speaker 2: will say this. The kid, there's something there with this kid. Now,
- 33:19Speaker 2: he's young, so Belichick can start scheming like he used
- 33:23Speaker 2: to against NFL rookies, right? Can I fool him? Can I,
- 33:27Speaker 2: you know, make him make mistakes? And Reynolds' first half
- 33:31Speaker 2: bone was way better than his second half, but there
- 33:35Speaker 2: is definite ability there in Tate Reynolds.
- 33:37Speaker 6: Feels like, at least in the moment here, that he...
- 33:41Speaker 6: He's the future. This is a, you know, is this
- 33:44Speaker 6: a Trevor Warrens, Kelly Bryant? Yeah, I think he's the present, too.
- 33:47Speaker 6: I'm not saying that Reynolds is necessarily going to have
- 33:49Speaker 6: a career like Trevor Warrens, but, you know, if he
- 33:51Speaker 6: plays well, is Vazina going to get that job back?
- 33:54Speaker 1: Probably not, right? I would guess not.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's the present. I mean, honestly,
- 33:59Speaker 2: he played better. I know it was a small sample
- 34:01Speaker 2: for Vazina, but he... I don't know if it was
- 34:05Speaker 2: just the SMU pass defense and how bad it was
- 34:07Speaker 2: last year, but he does not look any bit like
- 34:10Speaker 2: he looked in that game. last year his only start
- 34:13Speaker 2: coming into the season um you know.
- 34:15Speaker 6: What i mean i guess maybe he just he ended
- 34:17Speaker 6: up with the smu pass defense i guess maybe that's
- 34:19Speaker 6: part of i don't know i don't know i'd have
- 34:21Speaker 6: to go back and see that game again to see
- 34:22Speaker 6: what was going.
- 34:23Speaker 2: On we've got we've got nc state winning 73 to
- 34:26Speaker 2: nothing bone man i thought i was watching a replay
- 34:29Speaker 2: of miami and famu but they just changed the uniforms
- 34:32Speaker 2: same score in the half 49 nothing i guess they
- 34:35Speaker 2: were pissed i mean i know richmond's richmond.
- 34:37Speaker 6: I mean, they were, I mean, from the moment that
- 34:40Speaker 6: game started, they just ran them. I mean, they were
- 34:41Speaker 6: running all over the place. Those backs that you phrase
- 34:44Speaker 6: heavily Duke sky. I mean, they were just, every time
- 34:47Speaker 6: they touched the ball, it felt like it was going
- 34:49Speaker 6: for big chunks. They owned them in the trenches. I'm
- 34:51Speaker 6: not going to get, I'm not, we'll pack Mac. I
- 34:53Speaker 6: would not get too excited going into this Vanderbilt game.
- 34:55Speaker 6: Vanderbilt's the game on the road where they can prove something.
- 34:58Speaker 6: What was the biggest surprise to you? Bone Oregon losing
- 35:01Speaker 6: to Oak state. NC State is a road underdog by
- 35:05Speaker 6: three and a half out of Vanderbilt.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Okay.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Michigan beating Oklahoma or the way Texas beat Ohio State? Boy,
- 35:16Speaker 2: oh boy, yeah.
- 35:17Speaker 1: It's hard to... There's a lot going on there.
- 35:19Speaker 6: I put Michigan-Oklahoma third because I started to wonder throughout
- 35:24Speaker 6: the week, is Michigan starting to get talked to at
- 35:27Speaker 6: such a down level? Mateer was terrible. What a horrible
- 35:30Speaker 6: interception there late in the game. Just handed him the game, dude.
- 35:33Speaker 6: What's been the word on Mateer back? He will help
- 35:35Speaker 6: you win games, and he'll take you out of games.
- 35:38Speaker 6: And that's what he did the other day. Oregon's surprising
- 35:43Speaker 6: because of the previous result Oklahoma State had against Tulsa,
- 35:47Speaker 6: where they were completely horrible. I don't know how Oregon
- 35:49Speaker 6: brings all that back, and they've struggled the way they
- 35:52Speaker 6: have the first two weeks.
- 35:54Speaker 1: But an Ohio State team back up by 20. It
- 35:55Speaker 1: was 20, or was it? Up by 20, right? Yeah,
- 35:57Speaker 1: 23-3 in the early fourth. They were up 23-3.
- 36:02Speaker 6: If you would have told us going into the weekend
- 36:03Speaker 6: that Ohio State would blow a 20-point lead in the
- 36:05Speaker 6: fourth quarter, I don't think anyone would have believed that.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Oregon.
- 36:09Speaker 6: Crazy, but I would have said, well, you never know.
- 36:12Speaker 6: Ohio State up 20, blowing the lead. I wouldn't have
- 36:14Speaker 6: bought that one. I wouldn't have bought that one. Yeah,
- 36:16Speaker 6: the Oklahoma State thing is crazy, though. I mean, it's
- 36:18Speaker 6: right there with Ohio State. You get routed by Tulsa
- 36:21Speaker 6: and then can beat Oregon. But the thing is, Oregon
- 36:23Speaker 6: showed us some flaws in the first week. It's got
- 36:25Speaker 6: to be Ohio State blowing a big lead, and we're
- 36:27Speaker 6: all sad about it. God, I loved it, man. And
- 36:30Speaker 6: that was Arch's moment.
- 36:32Speaker 2: We've been waiting for him to have a moment and
- 36:34Speaker 2: not just a last name. You know what I mean?
- 36:37Speaker 2: And that was a moment. And how about Sark, the
- 36:40Speaker 2: constant fourth down, going for it? Chris Fowler, what was
- 36:44Speaker 2: Fowler talking about? It was fourth and nine. Fourth and nine,
- 36:47Speaker 2: they're down 20. They going for it here? I'm surprised
- 36:50Speaker 2: they're going for it here. You got how much?
- 36:53Speaker 7: It was like 12 minutes to go in the game.
- 36:55Speaker 1: You got 12 minutes to go. You're losing by 20, bro.
- 36:57Speaker 1: What are they going to do?
- 36:58Speaker 8: The second fourth down, I thought they could have punted. Like,
- 37:02Speaker 8: with the way the clock was, I thought they could have.
- 37:04Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Kudos to Sark.
- 37:06Speaker 8: I understood why they went for it. And great call
- 37:09Speaker 8: by you. Manning had a name, has a moment. That's
- 37:12Speaker 8: a big win for Steve Sarkeesian. Since we don't have time,
- 37:15Speaker 8: if they lose, we're going to have to have a
- 37:17Speaker 8: conversation about that program and big games and big moments.
- 37:20Speaker 7: But Matthew McConaughey rallied.
- 37:22Speaker 1: Them boys on the side. All right, all right, all right.
- 37:25Speaker 6: Because there's big wins for, like, within the season. Then
- 37:28Speaker 6: there's big program wins. That's a big program win for Texas. Matt,
- 37:32Speaker 6: do you love it when the cocky texters get humbled?
- 37:35Speaker 6: Buckeye Dave talks about the Buckeyes every day.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 37:38Speaker 6: Talk Ohio State. Talk Ohio State. Why do you talk NFL?
- 37:42Speaker 6: Talk Ohio State. Today he started the show by talking Panthers.
- 37:46Speaker 6: I said, Dave, how was your weekend, man?
- 37:48Speaker 1: He didn't joke or anything. He says, hey, we're young.
- 37:51Speaker 1: We're going to be all right. And I said, come on, Dave.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Where's cocky Dave? It was a bad football weekend.
- 37:58Speaker 2: The bad thing is, Bone, the president of the Avero
- 38:01Speaker 2: fan club over here got humbled a bit, too.
- 38:04Speaker 1: What can I say? You talk about humbling.
- 38:07Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, even though the Panthers lost yesterday,
- 38:09Speaker 6: we still saw what happened to you Dallas Cowboys last night.
- 38:13Speaker 6: When we come back, sounds of the weekend. A Panthers
- 38:15Speaker 6: defender says Sunday was embarrassing and unacceptable. Canales has an
- 38:21Speaker 6: interesting response to a great question from Kyle Bailey. And
- 38:25Speaker 6: we've got a Willie P. Gold call as well. Sports
- 38:27Speaker 6: Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Here comes Alan St. Maxman with a cross to the
- 38:55Speaker 1: right side all the way through to Oloko. Trying to
- 38:57Speaker 1: get it back into the area.
- 38:58Speaker 9: And it's a score! Toclobate swings and holds it in!
- 39:04Speaker 9: The crowd back in front on long service from Maxie
- 39:09Speaker 9: to Oloko to Toclo. It's Toclo time in Cincinnati.
- 39:14Speaker 1: The crowd three, Cincinnati two.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Oh, that goal was beautiful. That one got me a
- 39:20Speaker 2: little fired up on Saturday night. I thought he was
- 39:23Speaker 2: going to give us the Toki-Poki for once. No, he
- 39:25Speaker 2: gave you a little Aloko to Toko, though.
- 39:27Speaker 1: He did. That's good. Aloko to Toklo. And Toklo time.
- 39:32Speaker 1: He gave us a lot there.
- 39:33Speaker 2: A whole buffet of items there. We were getting it
- 39:36Speaker 2: handed to us. I mean, we could not get the
- 39:38Speaker 2: ball in the second half, Bone. And eventually, it got
- 39:45Speaker 2: tied up at two. And I was worried we were
- 39:47Speaker 2: going to lose. And to have that goal, and Maxie
- 39:52Speaker 2: with an amazing ball across the field, Aloko plays it
- 39:56Speaker 2: right out of the air, and Toklamati heads it in.
- 39:59Speaker 2: I thought we were going to steal one, and I
- 40:01Speaker 2: do mean steal one, Bone, because I do believe Cincinnati
- 40:05Speaker 2: had so much of the ball, created so much more.
- 40:08Speaker 1: But Maxie, my.
- 40:09Speaker 2: God, whether it's the initial assist, Bone, or the assist
- 40:14Speaker 2: that leads to the assist, he is involved so many times.
- 40:18Speaker 2: when we score goals. I hate that a bottle went
- 40:20Speaker 2: out early. Um, uh, but, uh, Charlotte FC at least
- 40:24Speaker 2: gets a tough kind of road point, but, um, man
- 40:29Speaker 2: got out of there with a point, I guess I'll
- 40:31Speaker 2: take it, but had a three, two lead late and
- 40:33Speaker 2: then conceded late.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Almost got out of there with all three points.
- 40:37Speaker 6: Toklamati's on a heater also, right? Is that three games?
- 40:41Speaker 6: Is that three games in a row he scored?
- 40:42Speaker 1: I think, right? I believe so.
- 40:44Speaker 2: He's definitely scored the last couple. I don't know if
- 40:46Speaker 2: it's three, but he definitely has come to life a
- 40:48Speaker 2: little bit here.
- 40:49Speaker 6: It feels like, Mac, he's come to life even more.
- 40:51Speaker 6: The more Macs he creates, the more he gets going.
- 40:54Speaker 6: It feels like that's opening up things for Toklamati, who's
- 40:57Speaker 6: really starting to play well here.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Definitely.
- 40:59Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some Panther stuff here, sounds
- 41:01Speaker 2: of the weekend. Because those of you that are waking up,
- 41:03Speaker 2: we literally had a guy, did y'all talk about us
- 41:05Speaker 2: giving up 59 points yet?
- 41:07Speaker 1: We didn't hear about that.
- 41:09Speaker 2: We screamed for the first about 20 minutes of the
- 41:12Speaker 2: show and probably will scream for the next three hours.
- 41:15Speaker 2: Let's get to some sounds from that. It sounds of
- 41:17Speaker 2: the weekend. Let's get to some sounds from afterwards. All right,
- 41:20Speaker 2: let's get to Jalen Phillipsbone, who uses words like embarrassing
- 41:24Speaker 2: and unacceptable words. when talking about that performance yesterday.
- 41:29Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure everybody's had their dog days. Maybe not
- 41:33Speaker 5: with the score being as high as it was, but
- 41:35Speaker 5: there's just times where, like I said, you just can't
- 41:39Speaker 5: get right. A lot of self-inflicted things that we were
- 41:42Speaker 5: doing to ourselves. Like I said, it's embarrassing, but ultimately
- 41:46Speaker 5: I'm taking a really positive outlook from this because we
- 41:49Speaker 5: can only get better from here. It's early in the season.
- 41:52Speaker 5: And it's obviously unacceptable, but ultimately there's, you know, things
- 41:56Speaker 5: to grow on. And, you know, I thought there were
- 41:58Speaker 5: some really promising things happening.
- 42:01Speaker 2: He should have ducked after he said, but I'm going
- 42:03Speaker 2: to take an optimistic approach.
- 42:05Speaker 1: We can only get better from here. I hope so.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Because if you could get worse than that, Bone, your
- 42:10Speaker 2: defense should be relegated to the UFL.
- 42:12Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a couple ways to look at it.
- 42:14Speaker 6: There are some people, Mac, who when they talk about yesterday,
- 42:18Speaker 6: and I get it, it was bad, they try to, like,
- 42:23Speaker 6: act like that's the whole entire season's defense yesterday, like
- 42:27Speaker 6: they're not going to get better, like that's who we are.
- 42:30Speaker 6: We can look at it as yesterday's performance and still
- 42:33Speaker 6: have hope for the defense, or you can be like
- 42:36Speaker 6: Richie of the world who acts like we're going to
- 42:39Speaker 6: give up 59 points a game like we're a low-end
- 42:41Speaker 6: Big Ten basketball team. I'm going to tell you right now,
- 42:46Speaker 6: we are getting the two perfect quarterback situations. For our
- 42:52Speaker 6: defense With that said Bone I'm worried.
- 42:57Speaker 2: Right?
- 42:58Speaker 6: Well, I'm worried about one guy on Sunday that runs
- 43:01Speaker 6: right up the middle, and that's B. John Robinson.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Well, yeah, definitely. But we should absolutely bounce back. But, man,
- 43:08Speaker 2: there is no guarantee, and you're right. We give up
- 43:11Speaker 2: almost 300 yards rushing and enter B. John Robinson. So
- 43:14Speaker 2: we'll talk about it all week. It's all about the response.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Today's all about bitching about the defense, what went wrong.
- 43:21Speaker 2: We can call out Avera. We can call out the players.
- 43:23Speaker 2: This is still a unit that I believed with my
- 43:26Speaker 2: heart before the season was going to be top 10.
- 43:28Speaker 2: I don't believe we need to fire anybody after one week.
- 43:31Speaker 2: I don't believe, Boney, we need to lose our minds
- 43:33Speaker 2: and act like the defense is going to be garbage
- 43:35Speaker 2: the whole season. But holy crap, give us a day
- 43:39Speaker 2: to talk about how pathetic that was, and we will
- 43:41Speaker 2: do so. We've got to get to Dave Canales from
- 43:44Speaker 2: his postgame presser. He made a comment, Bone, at one
- 43:47Speaker 2: point that all three phases weren't good enough to win today.
- 43:51Speaker 2: And Kyle Bailey, to his credit, KB, took the mic
- 43:56Speaker 2: and said the offense scored 37 points. Bryce Young threw
- 44:00Speaker 2: for 361. Is that not good enough to win? Listen
- 44:04Speaker 2: to the response.
- 44:05Speaker 10: You know, to beat this team, we did not. You know,
- 44:08Speaker 10: we fumbled. We had the interception before the half. I
- 44:12Speaker 10: thought that was a really good aggressive take by Bryce.
- 44:14Speaker 10: He underthrew it, and the corner made a great play
- 44:17Speaker 10: the punt fumble, personal foul at midfield to just move
- 44:23Speaker 10: them right into scoring territory. And then just offensively speaking, like, shoot,
- 44:28Speaker 10: we just have to do whatever it takes to win
- 44:30Speaker 10: and we can't take moral victories on points scored or
- 44:33Speaker 10: different things. And even the defense had some spectacular series
- 44:37Speaker 10: in there, but it was compounded by the big mistakes
- 44:40Speaker 10: all across the board. And we can't play that kind
- 44:42Speaker 10: of football, especially against a really good team.
- 44:45Speaker 2: So there you go. It was a great question from KB.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Dave Canales was kind of in BSing mode. He kind
- 44:50Speaker 2: of said the coach thing. All three phases, we weren't
- 44:53Speaker 2: good enough to win. KB kind of called him on it.
- 44:56Speaker 2: He had to kind of keep BSing. As a head coach, Bone,
- 44:59Speaker 2: you can't go out there and say the offense was
- 45:02Speaker 2: tremendous and deserved to win today, but everybody else let him.
- 45:05Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You can't kind of create
- 45:07Speaker 2: that division. But I think KB and all of us
- 45:11Speaker 2: kind of knew, yeah, you're kind of BSing this one.
- 45:14Speaker 6: Speaking of guys that did not have good days back,
- 45:16Speaker 6: an offensive guy that did struggle yesterday, Jimmy Horn had
- 45:20Speaker 6: a rough day yesterday in the return game.
- 45:22Speaker 1: He had one target for no yards.
- 45:24Speaker 6: Receiving, although that's not completely shocking as a guy still
- 45:28Speaker 6: trying to find his role in this offense. But Jimmy
- 45:31Speaker 6: Hornback in the return game was giving me a heartburn
- 45:35Speaker 6: and headache yesterday at the same time. That was rough yesterday.
- 45:37Speaker 6: Because he almost lost another one, right? He lost one
- 45:39Speaker 6: and almost lost the second one. He was already down.
- 45:42Speaker 6: That was a weird return. He got a great return,
- 45:44Speaker 6: had a lot of room. And then when it comes
- 45:46Speaker 6: up on the two tacklers, he just turns his back
- 45:47Speaker 6: to them. I don't know what he was doing.
- 45:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
- 45:52Speaker 2: I felt so good about Jimmy Horn all preseason, and
- 45:56Speaker 2: now I'm wondering if, did I fall for something that
- 45:59Speaker 2: wasn't real, Boney? Because it was during fake football, the drop.
- 46:05Speaker 2: I heard Ben Johnson, I was listening to Ben Johnson's
- 46:07Speaker 2: press conference. I just hate listening to it. I now
- 46:09Speaker 2: can't stand the man. I respect him, but I can't
- 46:10Speaker 2: stand him. But anyway, I was listening to it. They
- 46:14Speaker 2: call that punt a banana punt. And apparently it's something
- 46:18Speaker 2: they did in the preseason. I guess it goes up.
- 46:21Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Kind of bananas down. Does
- 46:23Speaker 2: that make any sense? I've seen the tornado ones before.
- 46:26Speaker 2: The banana one's different. And it kind of dives. I
- 46:29Speaker 2: guess it's the same effect, right? So Horn thought the
- 46:31Speaker 2: ball was coming here, and all of a sudden it dies, right?
- 46:33Speaker 2: It goes drops, and he's not ready to catch it.
- 46:37Speaker 2: One more clip. Eli Drinkwitz, my God. This dude, he
- 46:41Speaker 2: never holds back. But this dude did not hold back.
- 46:44Speaker 2: If y'all missed it, they played a rivalry game with Kansas.
- 46:48Speaker 2: If you need more details, ask Willie P about it. Missouri,
- 46:51Speaker 2: great second half after being tied at halftime. They beat
- 46:54Speaker 2: their rivals by 17. Earlier in the day, Kansas put out,
- 46:58Speaker 2: I thought it was an odd hype video. I thought
- 47:01Speaker 2: it was, I don't want to minimize how horrible slavery was.
- 47:05Speaker 2: I don't want to minimize that Kansas was on the
- 47:07Speaker 2: right side of it and Missouri wasn't, but they, they
- 47:10Speaker 2: like made the football rivalry hype video about that.
- 47:14Speaker 1: And I just, I was so odd. It was so
- 47:17Speaker 1: weird to me.
- 47:18Speaker 2: And Eli Drinkwitz literally said, I tried to embarrass them
- 47:23Speaker 2: late in that game because of that damn video.
- 47:26Speaker 3: You know, I was disappointed in the rivalry, the turn
- 47:29Speaker 3: that it took today. I thought that was uncalled for.
- 47:33Speaker 3: And this is about two teams playing football, and especially
- 47:38Speaker 3: on 9-11 when we need more unity now than ever before.
- 47:41Speaker 3: To be putting some stuff on your screen celebrating, I mean, everybody's.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Got complicated pasts.
- 47:49Speaker 3: And to make that an icon was art of me.
- 47:52Speaker 1: And so I'm just glad.
- 47:54Speaker 3: You know, that this whole right versus wrong bullcrap that
- 47:57Speaker 3: was started just got settled on a football field.
- 47:59Speaker 1: Because it's a football game. It's a football game. It's
- 48:01Speaker 1: an American football game.
- 48:03Speaker 3: People love to come watch and cheer for their teams.
- 48:05Speaker 3: It's not even deeper than that. And I get there's
- 48:07Speaker 3: a past to it. But why are we stirring that
- 48:09Speaker 3: bullcrap up?
- 48:10Speaker 1: You know, it's 9-11.
- 48:11Speaker 3: This country needs unity now more than ever.
- 48:14Speaker 1: And I was embarrassed for it, to be honest.
- 48:16Speaker 3: And that's why I tried to embarrass them.
- 48:17Speaker 1: At the end. That's why I tried to embarrass him
- 48:20Speaker 1: at the end.
- 48:20Speaker 6: You're 1,000% right. Why are you going there? There's a
- 48:23Speaker 6: lot of places you go with your rivals. Why do
- 48:25Speaker 6: you go there? Of all days, also, like Eli's talking about,
- 48:29Speaker 6: that was completely unnecessary. And Missouri fed off that. When
- 48:33Speaker 6: the Missouri players back entered the field, they were middle-fingering
- 48:36Speaker 6: the Kansas fans. That rivalry, they added— Is that normal,
- 48:40Speaker 6: or is that because of the video? Ask Willie, does
- 48:42Speaker 6: that normally happen? They added another way or two where
- 48:45Speaker 6: Missouri said, all right, you want to fight?
- 48:47Speaker 1: We're going to fight you.
- 48:47Speaker 2: I mean, dude, seriously, everybody involved in this rivalry right
- 48:51Speaker 2: now played a key role in slavery?
- 48:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Get the hell out of here. That's ridiculous.
- 48:55Speaker 2: Any Northern team playing any SEC team could try to
- 48:58Speaker 2: play that.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Get out of here with that.
- 49:00Speaker 6: When we come back, what the hell happened to the Panthers'
- 49:03Speaker 6: defense yesterday? And how did this game go from a
- 49:07Speaker 6: tie to a 21-point deficit that quickly? Who are we
- 49:11Speaker 6: blaming for yesterday? Sports Radio 92.7.