Latest / Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast / Vote Cologuard
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- 0:05According to Eleanor Deering of the Environmental Defense League
- 0:07of Women, all climate change deniers should be shot.
- 0:11A woman of few but deadly words. Deliberately misquoted by her
- 0:14enemies. Illinois.
- 0:15Deering has been a collaborative force for change.
- 0:18Collaborative. She heads up the Environmental
- 0:19Justice League of No Man Allowed.
- 0:21Trying to undo the damage caused by your generation's
- 0:24indifference getting you kids hopped up on hysteria and false
- 0:27hope is the real threat to this planet.
- 0:29No, we have retail and we have wholesale.
- 0:32We have pink packets and blue packets.
- 0:35Republicans and Democrats and the party that crazy midgets
- 0:38started. So many choices.
- 0:47How they all love their free will.
- 0:50Everybody has a different point of view.
- 0:53There should be only one point of view.
- 0:55My point of view, Well I have a message for these.
- 1:02Humans, the buffet is about to close.
- 1:06If you're over 45, that means it's time to start screening for
- 1:09colon cancer. And there's no easier way to do
- 1:12it than with Cola Guard, the simple, efficient box delivered
- 1:15straight to your doorstep. Oh, hello, can I help you?
- 1:20Hi, I'm Kologard, a non invasive way to screen for colon cancer
- 1:24at home. I am my doctor ordered you.
- 1:26That's right. Because I'm safe, easy to use
- 1:29and I find 92% of colon cancers. OK cool.
- 1:32How's it work? I just need to collect a sample.
- 1:34So open me up and you know, go inside me, inside you.
- 1:39Yeah, just go inside me. It's OK.
- 1:42I like it. Good morning, America.
- 1:47How are you? I'm Rabbi Dave.
- 1:49I am 61 years old and I am at average or below average risk
- 1:55for colon cancer. Wow, that was that was an
- 1:59interesting intro there. I am Friar Rod and I don't know
- 2:03what my percentage. I'm probably greater than that,
- 2:05Dave, because my mother had colon cancer, so.
- 2:10There is no history of colon cancer in my entire family
- 2:14history. It does not exist.
- 2:17There are other cancers, but not colon cancer.
- 2:21I've never had a colonoscopy, in fact I've managed to get out of
- 2:26several. Of them you're missing Dave.
- 2:28Oh, but I do. I get them every three years
- 2:31now. So he says to me at my physical,
- 2:35which I had a couple of weeks ago, which by the way was I'm
- 2:41not sure how to categorize this, we talked about my last year's
- 2:45physical that lasted 11 minutes. Yeah.
- 2:49This one I I have discovered 2 secrets now.
- 2:54Well, one secret anyway. Always schedule doctor
- 2:56appointments for September 11th because nobody else does really.
- 3:01For the first time in recorded history, I got there at the
- 3:06normal. Normally I'm I'm 15 minutes
- 3:08early to everything and I went right in and I was the only one
- 3:12there and we had time to talk. This physical lasted 24 minutes.
- 3:16Well, that's a good one. Yeah.
- 3:18So we're up there. Now, part of that is in
- 3:21fairness, I have two other doctors that handle like my
- 3:25endocrinologist and a urologist. So he doesn't have to do any of
- 3:28those things. So in fairness, I mean, really,
- 3:33what does he have to do? But we had a nice conversation
- 3:37which included the fact that I'm 61 years old now, and while I am
- 3:41at average or below risk average for colon cancer, he pointed out
- 3:46that once again, I had managed to avoid the colonoscopy last
- 3:51year. Because what I do is I schedule
- 3:55them and then I cancel them. Oops, sorry, something came up.
- 4:01I'll get back to you. Which is sad because I did the
- 4:04same thing. My endocrinologist wanted a bone
- 4:06scan, bone density scan a couple weeks ago and I was supposed to
- 4:11do it back in June and frankly, I'd have had enough of Ivs by
- 4:16then. So I cancelled it at the last
- 4:19minute, said I can't do it. And I was very vague about my
- 4:25reasoning. My reasoning was for those of
- 4:27you that listen to the show, you get the inside baseball.
- 4:30My reasoning is I'm tired of Ivs.
- 4:33Well, it turns out that you don't actually need an IV for a
- 4:36bone density scan. You just lay there and you don't
- 4:40even have to take your clothes off.
- 4:41So the joke's on you. So in that case, yes, but I've
- 4:46been doing that for I don't know if I were six years with
- 4:48colonoscopies. This is our annual dance.
- 4:50I'm going to schedule you for a colonoscopy.
- 4:53OK, I'll cancel it in two weeks. So, but this year, insert
- 4:59ominous music here. He has come up with a different
- 5:04plan and that plan is. Is he is?
- 5:15Oh, you got the dreaded talking box.
- 5:17I got the talking box and I was OK with this.
- 5:25We were having this pleasant conversation.
- 5:29Oh this is so this is non invasive.
- 5:33Now keep in mind that I've just gotten through this bone density
- 5:36scan, which is also non invasive, for which all I had to
- 5:41do was lay there. That's all I had to do was
- 5:44simple, was easy. It was pleasant conversation.
- 5:52Then he says, oh, we'll do this non invasive test.
- 5:58All you have to do, and I'm quoting here, this is a a direct
- 6:01quote from my physician, who by the way, is an Air Force doctor
- 6:06retired, he says, And I quote, all you have to do is shit in
- 6:11the box. Now look.
- 6:20See, you just like stand over it.
- 6:23Dude. So here's the thing that you
- 6:30don't know about me, OK? We're about to find out, I take
- 6:35it. There are things you're going to
- 6:36find out about me that you probably don't want to know.
- 6:39So there's a skip ahead button if you really don't want to know
- 6:41this. But there are certain biological
- 6:46functions which I'm sure if some psychiatrist was to sit down and
- 6:52analyze me at some point that I have an issue with.
- 6:58And this is one of those issues. I'm that guy who at work, when
- 7:04I'm at work, if I have to do that, I will go home.
- 7:11OK. I'm that guy.
- 7:14OK. I do not I realize that I've
- 7:18been married now an aggregate total of 22 years of my life
- 7:21between two wives. I do not, I do not share this
- 7:28whole idea of the just walking in while somebody else is using
- 7:31the bathroom thing. Yeah, that is I I can't even
- 7:36tell you how appalling that is to me in either direction.
- 7:44I did my. This is what I tell.
- 7:45People. So you'd never go to the
- 7:47bathroom in a public space? Not unless it is a drop dead
- 7:52emergency. And then you're a stall guy,
- 7:55right? You go into the.
- 7:56Stall. Yeah.
- 7:56Oh yeah, and not only that, but I try to find restrooms that are
- 8:01lockable so that I'm the only one in there and.
- 8:04So you'd love a Bucky's restroom because you know those stalls
- 8:07are actually rooms. They're like you close the door
- 8:09and you're in the room. Oh, thank God, I I needed to
- 8:12know that because we're probably going to the East Coast again
- 8:14next year or so. There's good news.
- 8:17The closest I have found to that prior to that is Love's, which
- 8:22are not quite rooms, but almost. They're tiny stalls, but they're
- 8:27they are completely closeable. At most I I have them marked out
- 8:30on the maps. Which ones are?
- 8:33Yes, I am that guy. So now I have this box that's
- 8:39been staring at me for a week. You got to do it Dave though.
- 8:43It's your health, man. It's either that or the invasive
- 8:48route. OK, the only drawback to the
- 8:52invasive route right now is the IV, which while I do not like
- 8:57Ivs, at least I can tolerate it. And the and the juice that they
- 9:04give you, your memory is like very foggy.
- 9:07You don't remember anything. Else I've been through that
- 9:10three times this year. Already and half the ride home.
- 9:12You don't remember half the ride home.
- 9:16So I said to my computer, because I talk to my computer
- 9:19all the time. Other than Rod and Bill, it's
- 9:22pretty much my only friend. I mean, I said why should I use
- 9:27this? And it said to me collar guard
- 9:32isn't in. Tells me all the nonsense.
- 9:35It's not invasive. That's what it this seems to be
- 9:37the selling point is that it's not invasive.
- 9:39Everybody's skipping the part that you literally have to shit
- 9:42in a box. Everybody seems to miss that
- 9:47it's not invasive. OK, but dot dot dot.
- 10:00So you're, you're not a diaper guy, right you?
- 10:03Don't need to change diapers. No.
- 10:04Yeah, well, I did when my son was OK.
- 10:07So when my son was born, everybody was making fun of me
- 10:10because they knew it was coming and eventually I had my first
- 10:16diaper change, which was. And I'm not trying to embarrass
- 10:21Ben, who's now a 14 year old and, you know, doesn't like to.
- 10:24It's a perfect age to a parachute.
- 10:27I ended up having to get a hose because and and and what I
- 10:33vaguely remember is holding him up and saying holy how much
- 10:39stuff can come out of one kid. But you know what?
- 10:45Over time I got used to it. Not used to it in the sense of I
- 10:49enjoy this, but but used to it in the sense of I became very
- 10:52efficient at it and very effective at it and very quick
- 10:55at it. Does that make sense?
- 10:57Yeah. But I don't want to do that with
- 11:00the collar guard. I don't want to become efficient
- 11:02at using collar guard. Well, try it once and then you
- 11:07could try the invasive route. Well, you might still have the
- 11:10invasive roundup depending upon the results that come back.
- 11:13See, I made the mistake of going online and saying, OK, what's
- 11:18the drawbacks to this? What?
- 11:21What's the, what's the downside of this?
- 11:24And you know what it comes back as, but you have to shit in the
- 11:28box and it ain't as easy as people seem to make it out to
- 11:34me. It's not like you just, you
- 11:35know, wait wait, how many steps 9?
- 11:40OK, so apparently it's more than just shitting in a box.
- 11:45Well then you have to pack the backs up and mail it back whole.
- 11:48How of fun is that? I can't wait for that aspect
- 11:52though. But here's my here's my buck.
- 11:55UPS Store. Ah, shit.
- 12:00But apparently because I'm the guy that thinks about the
- 12:02technical aspects of things, I'm like, what do I got to reach in
- 12:05there and pull it out. And, you know, look, the, the,
- 12:10the VA keeps sending me those tests.
- 12:11Here's a little brush. All you do is go and then stick
- 12:14the brush in and stick it like, Nope, not doing it because
- 12:19you'll get a series of vomit with it.
- 12:21Because I that's going to that's yeah, I can't do it.
- 12:25Sorry, no. So are you one of those
- 12:29sympathetic vomit? Guys, good Lord, yes.
- 12:32So you haven't watched the movie Mordecai then?
- 12:34No, not going to. That's hilarious.
- 12:39So I have this test. It's sitting here and I keep, I
- 12:43keep messing with my head because I'm sure it's simple,
- 12:47I'm sure it's easy, I'm sure it's not invasive.
- 12:51But I'm also a historian, so I know how they used to do this on
- 12:54the Apollo spacecrafts when they were going to the moon.
- 12:56So that's the part nobody talks about.
- 12:58Nobody talks about, you know, you're flying to the moon, still
- 13:00getting to the bathroom. Nobody's talking about Elon
- 13:03Musk. Hey, two years to get to Mars.
- 13:07What are you going to do, not go for two years?
- 13:10And believe it or not, there was one astronaut who actually on
- 13:14Apollo 8 who actually changed his diet to what he called a low
- 13:21residue diet so that during his flight to the moon and back, he
- 13:24would not have to go because of the the the procedure for doing
- 13:27so was very well. It involved essentially shitting
- 13:33in a bag in a small space with two other guys staring at you.
- 13:40And no ventilation. Yeah, so I'm freaking myself out
- 13:47over this Cologuard thing. So.
- 13:48So it could be worse. You could be on a spaceship
- 13:50somewhere. It.
- 13:51Could be worse, yes. I'm not sure.
- 13:53I'm not sure in my life how it could possibly be worse but but
- 13:57yeah. I don't want to go to space to
- 13:59reinvent artificial gravity. Then you don't have to worry
- 14:02about that background. So here's the here's the tips.
- 14:04Are you ready? All right, sure.
- 14:06Prepare the kit in advance before you start.
- 14:09Make sure you have everything ready.
- 14:12Read through the instructions first.
- 14:15Well, that's good. That's usually good with any
- 14:17kind of medical test. Pick a calm time.
- 14:22Try to pick a time when you won't be rushed or interrupted.
- 14:24It's a delicate process and the last thing you want is
- 14:28distractions. So leave your phone outside of
- 14:32the bathroom. Use the bracket properly.
- 14:42The kit includes a bracket that you will place on the toilet to
- 14:45hold the collection container. Position it carefully and make
- 14:48sure it's secured, underline and bold.
- 14:53This keeps everything quote clean and simple.
- 15:01Relax, relax and quote. Aim carefully.
- 15:10Which you've never had to do before.
- 15:14Seal everything tightly, send it promptly, get it in the mail as
- 15:19soon as you can, and stay calm. This is not the most glamorous
- 15:24task, it says, but it is an important one, which is not what
- 15:31I'm supposed to be talking about today.
- 15:33We were supposed to start today's discussion with a
- 15:35discussion about the 19th Amendment and Taylor Swift and
- 15:39yeah, women in politics and yadda, yadda, yadda.
- 15:45But this box has been staring at me.
- 15:49I'm over there for the last week.
- 15:53They've sent me two texts saying, hey, did you get your
- 15:55box? Did you You need to get this
- 15:59done? And they sent me instructions in
- 16:02a separate envelope saying hey, you need to get this done.
- 16:06There should be a commercial about this.
- 16:08There should be if I have to hear it again.
- 16:13I did it my way. I'm going to have a heart
- 16:19attack. Welcome back.
- 17:00I'm Dave. And I'm Rod.
- 17:05I think I'm better now, I'm not sure.
- 17:07You vent it a little bit, kind of got it off, lifted the burden
- 17:10off your shoulders. Had a drink during the break and
- 17:13I'm much calmer now. Did.
- 17:15You add a little bit of Wyoming whiskey to your coffee.
- 17:19Yes. OK.
- 17:22So what's wrong with politics these days?
- 17:26This is of. Course a lot of things this time
- 17:28I get asked there's a question every.
- 17:30Day. Yeah, I'm beginning to think
- 17:33and, and, and I'm beginning to see actually more and more
- 17:36online that I think the the they're saying that women might
- 17:40be the problem. Do you believe this, That this
- 17:43is the art? This is the theory.
- 17:44Hypothesis is that women having the vote, specifically white
- 17:50women having the vote. Well.
- 17:52Is screwing things up. I it's an interesting theory and
- 18:02I'm willing to entertain it. And so, you know, and what's
- 18:06what's interesting is that online you're seeing a lot of
- 18:10even some conservative areas where white women are coming out
- 18:14and saying women having the vote is a problem.
- 18:17Right, but Anita Bryant doesn't count.
- 18:20Well, it wasn't Anita Bryant. I'm seeing a lot of libertarian
- 18:23circles as well say the same thing.
- 18:25And if you do a search for repeal the 19th on on X, you get
- 18:29a whole host of a whole host of quotes on there.
- 18:34You know, this is this is an example.
- 18:36Women are tired. Women tried suffrage and
- 18:39discovered their primary political concern is killing
- 18:41their own children. Can we finally call this
- 18:43experiment failed to move on? I mean, you're seeing this and
- 18:48there's shows like Whatever the Whatever podcast and there's
- 18:51other libertarian cycles. So I wanted to bring it up today
- 18:54just to have a conversation. Just just to because the
- 18:58discussion about shooting in a box wasn't enough.
- 19:00We just wanted to insult more people.
- 19:03Yeah, sure. So the, the whole argument here
- 19:07comes from this idea that studies are showing, or polls
- 19:11are showing, I wouldn't call them studies, that for women,
- 19:16specifically white women, the overwhelming issue in the 2024
- 19:21election is not the economy, but rather abortion, which to my
- 19:28knowledge now, maybe I'm, I don't know, maybe I'm not seeing
- 19:33the whole picture. Is there anybody in this country
- 19:36who's being told it is absolutely impossible for you to
- 19:39have an abortion? You cannot do it.
- 19:43I think there's a lot of fear going around that they can't.
- 19:47Well I have a fear about cola guard tests too but you people
- 19:50are mocking me for that or I'm already getting texts about it.
- 19:58Fear is the worst thing we have to fear is fear itself.
- 20:03I get it, but these polls seem accurate to me because the
- 20:08conversations that I have had with white women.
- 20:14Seem to revolve around that they're either women who don't
- 20:17understand why that's the the issue, or they're women who are
- 20:20just absolutely passionate about that is the only issue.
- 20:23Yeah. There is no other issue.
- 20:25The fact that you're paying $12.00 for a pack of eggs is
- 20:30meaningless beside this idea that you might not be allowed to
- 20:35kill your baby in some states. How did we get to that point?
- 20:44I don't, you know, some of it's going to be the, the feminism.
- 20:47I mean, you know, I think it's that move and it's, it's a lot
- 20:51of that that drives it. You know, I'm all for body
- 20:55autonomy, but when it gets to the like the abortion issue,
- 21:00there's two bodies concerned and you'll never convince me that
- 21:03there isn't 2 bodies concerned in that.
- 21:06But it's so emotional. It's an emotional response.
- 21:11It really is right in many ways that and then I don't, I don't
- 21:15know of any decision I've ever made that it's been emotion
- 21:18based. That's been good that I've come
- 21:19back and said, you know what, I had it right, ever.
- 21:25But have you ever tried to explain that to A to a woman?
- 21:29Don't make your decision based on emotion.
- 21:32Oh yeah, as a married man, you cannot say that.
- 21:35No, you cannot. You can't even have that
- 21:39discussion. So I, I guess my question, I
- 21:45mean short history of women's suffrage in this country.
- 21:50Of course, like most nations of the 18th century, we did not
- 21:55grant women the right to vote. In fact, there were no nations
- 21:59in the 18th century that granted women the right to vote.
- 22:03So we didn't in the Constitution, although women
- 22:06were heavily involved with the ratification process, especially
- 22:10in Massachusetts, pushing their husbands to vote for the
- 22:13Constitution because they believe that in the future
- 22:17things would get better. Pizzaw.
- 22:21And eventually there were women's suffrage movements in
- 22:24the 1800s. And they they, you know, pushed
- 22:28hard for those kinds of things. At least one state noted itself
- 22:35as the Equality State because before it became a state, it
- 22:39allowed women to have the vote in the territory.
- 22:42And then the federal government said, well, if you want to be a
- 22:44state, you can't do that. Can you imagine such a thing?
- 22:51What state was that? Wyoming, which is why Wyoming is
- 22:54called the Equality State. OK.
- 22:59They were told by the much like Utah was told, hey, if you want
- 23:02to be a state, you can't have two wives.
- 23:04Wyoming was told if you want to be a state, you can't be loud
- 23:07and women to vote. Sorry, it seems seems morally
- 23:12compatible, right? Yeah, sure.
- 23:15So then we got the 19th Amendment in the Progressive Era
- 23:19of the United States, which allowed women to vote.
- 23:23And then we got Taylor Swift, and now she's telling white
- 23:27women how to vote because she doesn't care about $12.00 eggs
- 23:34or $5 jets. She would never care about that
- 23:37stuff as she does. Jets takes her personal jet as
- 23:41her commuter vehicle. And Kansas City Chiefs fans are
- 23:46starting to turn on her because Travis Kelsey is overweight and
- 23:50out of shape and they're blaming.
- 23:52I'm not making this up. Yep, not kidding.
- 23:56His brother on his podcast this week, had to defend Travis
- 24:00Kelsey saying, oh, he's just, how's this for an argument?
- 24:03He's just getting old. Yeah.
- 24:07That's nothing to do with Boink and Taylor Swift.
- 24:13So I guess the question is, how did we get to this point now?
- 24:16Is is this argument about repealing the 19th Amendment,
- 24:20which is never going to happen? I'm going to go on record.
- 24:22This is never going to be repealed.
- 24:25The only amendment in any danger of ever being appealed is the
- 24:28second that said. Followed quickly by the first
- 24:33well. They don't have to repeal that.
- 24:36They just ignore it. Yeah, they're not going to
- 24:38repeal the second either. They're just ignore it.
- 24:41The bottom line is the the question is, how did we get to
- 24:45this point today where today, I mean, we've joked for years
- 24:51about women should be not voting, but now it's almost like
- 24:57it's serious. People are actually doing
- 25:00studies, performing polls, making arguments that women,
- 25:04specifically white women, should not be allowed to vote.
- 25:09Yeah. How did we get to that point?
- 25:13Is it just because Kamala Harris is the presidential candidate?
- 25:18Or is it because poll after poll is showing that the issue for
- 25:24these women is abortion? Now please don't send me a text
- 25:28saying I know we only have like 3 women listeners and if you
- 25:31listen to this show the odds on favorite is you probably lean
- 25:34right anyway. I know you don't.
- 25:37I know my wife doesn't think that way, but should also
- 25:46probably tell you that I help her fill out her ballot.
- 25:51I, I actually do the research and I fill in the, the, the
- 25:56actual example ballot with all I'm going to vote for and I hand
- 25:59it off and say, hey, this is what I'm doing.
- 26:01If you want to follow it, it's up to you.
- 26:02Right. I go a little bit further than
- 26:05that, but I'm not comfortable telling you how far I go with
- 26:08this. But the bottom line is she has
- 26:10no interest in, well, that's not really how a democracy works.
- 26:16It's not really how a republican democracy works.
- 26:18It's not really how this is supposed to happen.
- 26:21What? While I know that we agree on
- 26:23the issues in this particular case, I couldn't necessarily
- 26:28tell you that about my first ex-wife.
- 26:32Yeah, So how would you fix it, Dave?
- 26:35Voting. I I would fix it.
- 26:41See this comes back to it's the same problem people.
- 26:44What people don't want to say or admit is it's the same problem
- 26:48with MET. There are men who are voting for
- 26:51the same issues. We call them white dudes for
- 26:54Kamala, OK, how do you get to that point where you look at
- 27:00this? If you took all the politics out
- 27:03of it, stripped it all down and you put Donald Trump and Kamala
- 27:06Harris up there and said, OK, which one of these two people is
- 27:11more qualified as an executive to lead a government?
- 27:17I, I, I don't see how you could possibly.
- 27:20I'm not saying he's the best person in the country.
- 27:22To do it, but of the two. But of those two, there's no way
- 27:26in hell you will ever convince me that she has any of that
- 27:30relevant experience or, you know, based on her interviews,
- 27:36ideas on how to do things. Yeah.
- 27:39So how do you? But there are still even men who
- 27:44are going to vote for that. Why?
- 27:47The problem is that we have become not sure what the term
- 27:54for it is. We have lost those values and
- 28:00those principles and virtues that imbued us prior to this.
- 28:08Now, that's not always a bad thing.
- 28:12I'm not saying that we should return to slavery.
- 28:15I'm an originalist and people tell me all the time that as an
- 28:17originalist for Constitution, you want slavery back.
- 28:20No, I want the procedure followed so that we can end
- 28:25slavery, which we didn't do. And because we didn't do it,
- 28:31750,000 Americans either died or got hurt.
- 28:36Is that what you really wanted? No.
- 28:38And oh by the way, when we got rid of slavery, politically
- 28:42speaking, the South was stronger than it was before.
- 28:46Didn't think about that, did ya? Which is how we ended up heading
- 28:51where we were and had the the backwards effect because we
- 28:55didn't follow the procedures. Yeah.
- 28:59You know, I've been doing a lot. I, I, I try not to talk about it
- 29:03too much, but Bill and Rod can assure you of this.
- 29:06I am deep into the French Revolution.
- 29:08I am. I'm going nuts.
- 29:11For example, sent them a text this week about the the concept
- 29:17of right and left politically, yeah, comes from the French
- 29:21Revolution, and it was simply an accident of history.
- 29:26The people who were radical, who were, they called themselves the
- 29:30patriots who wanted the King's head cut off, tended to sit on
- 29:33the left hand side of the, of the assembly hall, while the
- 29:36people who are more conservative monarchyist sat on the right
- 29:39hand side. And, and, and they began to be
- 29:40referred to that way during the French Revolution.
- 29:42That's where it comes from. And we kept that today.
- 29:46But even more deeply into the French Revolution, you see a
- 29:51French nation that in 1787 is deeply religious, deeply
- 30:00controlled by the clergy and a king who supports that, and A
- 30:04and a nobility that enforces it. But in the mid 1700s you began
- 30:11to have this enlightenment, this this idea, this libertarian
- 30:15movement of the rights of men. And one of the things that it
- 30:20did away with was religion. By 1789, the only people who
- 30:26were going to church in France were people who were trying to
- 30:29impress their neighbors with their piety.
- 30:33Very few people believed it. In fact, the clergy, for the
- 30:36most part it. The priests at the at the
- 30:39churches probably did. But the bishops and the Abbots,
- 30:44they were just nobility. It was just a social club.
- 30:48France lost its sense of faith. Now, does that mean that the
- 30:53entire Enlightenment was null and void?
- 30:55No. But it's a warning to us that if
- 30:59you lose those foundational values and you move forward with
- 31:05radical changes and you have no moral and and ethical and
- 31:13virtuous underpinning of it, where do you end up with
- 31:19thousands of people under the guillotine?
- 31:22Because nobody knows what what is right, what's wrong.
- 31:26And you disagreed with me and everyone who disagrees with me
- 31:29is literally Louis the 14th or 16th.
- 31:32Sorry, off with his head. So when it comes to this women's
- 31:40voting thing, is the problem that white women are voting or
- 31:45is the problem that white women are listening to the likes of
- 31:48Taylor Swift and are convinced somehow or another, and I'm not
- 31:52sure who convinced them of this, that the right to have an
- 31:58abortion is the founding principal of this country.
- 32:03Kamala Harris said it a couple of weeks ago during her
- 32:06interview when she was talking about I'm proud to be an
- 32:09American. Americans are great because
- 32:11Americans believe that we've always fought for our right to
- 32:13have an abortion. She said that on television.
- 32:19And yet the same words will not come out of her mouth when it
- 32:22comes to a COVID vaccination. Do you believe in body autonomy
- 32:26or do you not? And this is where I get into
- 32:30trouble as a conservative chat show host Rod is that I, I have
- 32:34no interest in the abortion argument.
- 32:37I, I take my position on abortion is exactly the same as
- 32:40my position on gay marriage. If you don't want one, don't get
- 32:45one, but stop telling me or anybody else what they should do
- 32:52or have to do. That's.
- 32:54Well, it's the same thing with the trans argument, right?
- 32:57In a way you know. Stop telling us you know.
- 32:59Stop telling me that I have to use your pronouns.
- 33:03Right to. To converse with you.
- 33:05Right. And and stop forcing it into my
- 33:08face. Yeah, this is this is the
- 33:10problem. You want to get married, get
- 33:11married. But stop telling me that I have
- 33:14to participate and support or ally myself to that because I
- 33:19don't have to. And that's what it comes down
- 33:22to. So when we're dealing with this
- 33:25women's and voting thing, I think there's some cautionary
- 33:30tales. 1789, October of 1789, this coming week in 1789, the
- 33:37revolution in France was at a standstill.
- 33:40The king kept saying no, and the the National Assembly kept
- 33:46saying yes, and they kept butting heads.
- 33:51They were like, well, we're not making any.
- 33:53We want a constitutional monarchy is what the National
- 33:56Assembly was saying. And the king kept saying, no, I,
- 33:59I am the divine right of kings. I was granted this by God.
- 34:03You can't change that. Now.
- 34:06In some ways the constitutional monarchy made sense.
- 34:11In some ways the the absolute monarchy made sense.
- 34:15Not to me because I'm a Republican and libertarian, but,
- 34:19but you could see the arguments that the king was making.
- 34:24The problem was, in the process of all this, what group was the
- 34:28king really pissing off? Because as an absolute monarch,
- 34:32he had control, or at least was supposed or seemed to have
- 34:36control of things, much like a president is seen to have
- 34:41control of things that he really or she really does not have
- 34:45control of. And the price of bread in Paris
- 34:49was rising faster than people could afford it.
- 34:54And there was a group called the market women, who by tradition,
- 34:58these were women who ran the markets in Paris and buy
- 35:02tradition in France for 400 years.
- 35:06They had a quote, UN quote, special relationship with the
- 35:08king. They could go to the king once a
- 35:13year. The king would put on a big
- 35:14banquet. The market women of Paris would
- 35:17come to Versailles and they could.
- 35:20They couldn't speak to him, but they could whisper to him what
- 35:26the people wanted and needed, and the king, by tradition,
- 35:31would listen and probably grant their requests.
- 35:36In October of 1789, the market women had enough of the king
- 35:40saying no, and it was the market women who marched the 12 miles
- 35:45out to Versailles, got there to the king and said that's it
- 35:51buddy, you're moving to Paris. You're going to live amongst us
- 35:56where we can tell you what you are going to do.
- 36:00And the only reason the king didn't lose his head that day
- 36:04was the Marquis de Lafayette. Lafayette, the guy that fought
- 36:08for us during the Revolution, convinced Queen Marie Antoinette
- 36:13to step out onto the balcony and say, we love you, we're going to
- 36:17help you. And Marie Antoinette never
- 36:20forgave Lafayette for making her do that.
- 36:23But you know what happened? The next day, the women marched
- 36:27back to Paris. And in the middle of their
- 36:28column was the King's carriage with the entire royal family in
- 36:34it being taken to the palace in in Paris, where they would
- 36:38remain as as virtual prisoners until they died.
- 36:44You can't piss off women because they are pretty powerful.
- 36:51And when they choose to be politically powerful, they can
- 36:55be. But how do you control that?
- 36:57And the, I think the only way you control it, if that's even
- 37:01the right phrase, is by my favorite word, inculcating the
- 37:06appropriate values and virtues of the society that you want to
- 37:09have. And what's happened is who's
- 37:12doing the inculcating here in America has changed.
- 37:15It's no longer parents. It's no longer churches.
- 37:17It's no longer grandparents. It's no longer tradition.
- 37:22The people inculcating those values now is MTV, Taylor Swift
- 37:28and Kamala Harris. TikTok.
- 37:32TikTok, yes, social Chinese, Chinese spy apps, right, W
- 37:36Taiwanese spy apps. And as long as that's the case
- 37:40and until we're willing to address those things, and, of
- 37:42course, even TikTok. What was Trump's move on TikTok?
- 37:47He wants to ban it. I'm not sure I'm on board with
- 37:53that. But at the same time, I
- 37:54understand what he's trying to do.
- 37:56Yeah. My question is, what are you
- 37:57going to replace it with that's going to inculcate those values,
- 38:00that and virtues that you want? Because if you don't, something
- 38:04worse is going to take its place.
- 38:06This is what happens, yeah. Well, and you've got the media
- 38:09that's marginalized, those that do have values, right, that do
- 38:13have like the traditional values, they're, they're always
- 38:15marginalized. And that's what I think you're
- 38:17sort of seeing with this move of the 19th Amendment, the
- 38:21repealing of, or at least the discussions of, is that you're
- 38:23seeing a lot of people with those values pushing back now on
- 38:29social media, and they're having those conversations.
- 38:34I I do see it on social media. We had a discussion, Bill and I
- 38:39had a discussion some weeks ago about Trump flags being seen in
- 38:43Seattle, which hitherto was unheard of.
- 38:48And I have noticed that even driving around here, there are
- 38:54not a lot, but there are a sprinkling of waltz Harris,
- 38:59Harris waltz signs and no Trump signs.
- 39:04What does that tell me? Well, in the Central Valley of
- 39:07California you you see mostly Trump signs, right?
- 39:11You do see an odd Harris. Even though you know that 49.9%
- 39:15of those people are going to vote for for Harris.
- 39:16Yeah. So does it mean anything?
- 39:22I don't know. What I do know is that this
- 39:28comes right out of Roman history, folks, when you change
- 39:32the teaching of the virtues and values that your society wants
- 39:37to have from what they once were, whatever that might be, to
- 39:43what they are now. That's where you begin to
- 39:47because your history is what teaches you those virtues and
- 39:49values. That's where the denigration of
- 39:52history begins. That's where the tearing down of
- 39:53statues begins. And by the time you're done with
- 39:57that, you have no history to teach.
- 40:02Because what is it? What is it?
- 40:03It's just stories. It's just mythology at that
- 40:05point. Yeah.
- 40:08And that changes the values of every culture.
- 40:10You can trace it throughout history.
- 40:12You can trace it to every society that there is.
- 40:15And once that happens, that's how you get to the point where
- 40:21white women in particular believe that abortion is the
- 40:24most important thing, most important issue, an election.
- 40:29That's how we got there. Now how do we get back?
- 40:34Can we get back? Not convinced?
- 40:38We can. So what do you do?
- 40:44About some prayers the
- 41:46welcome back to what the frog Dave.
- 41:47We have a hero now. We have a new hero in our midst.
- 41:51There was a there. Was a hero that we deserve.
- 41:54It is a hero we deserve Dave. There was a woman quote I was
- 41:58running in the woods on the path behind the police station in the
- 42:01high school this morning when I came upon a Groundhog that
- 42:04looked injured. The 34 year old woman posted on
- 42:08our Facebook group quote. It must have been startled when
- 42:12I made a call on the speakerphone because it charged
- 42:15at me screaming and lunging. I ended up on my back kicking at
- 42:18it and screaming for about a minute.
- 42:21The stunned jogger flung her cell phone at the crazed
- 42:24critter, who then, startled, started to gnaw at the phone.
- 42:29Then along comes a student, Caleb Morris, a high school
- 42:32student who'd just finished his cross country run.
- 42:35When he heard the screaming, he made his way up the path and
- 42:38quote and right in front of my eyes lay a woman on the ground
- 42:42shouting and screaming and looked as if she was trying to
- 42:45fight off something the 9th grader posted quote.
- 42:48I never thought a Groundhog could be so aggressive as this
- 42:51one, Morris said. I was sort of frozen.
- 42:54I was stunned by the fact that I was watching a viral YouTube
- 42:57video worthy content in real time.
- 43:00But Morris took a pass on Internet fame.
- 43:04He said the woman in distress was still on her back kicking at
- 43:07the Groundhog, screaming as loud as she could at the same time.
- 43:11Shockingly, he said Groundhog scream even louder.
- 43:17The groundhog's scream was even more unsettling.
- 43:20The jogger got back onto her feet and Morris realized that
- 43:22she couldn't call the cops since the Gopher had eaten her phone.
- 43:26And with the power of Hey Siri call the police, I was
- 43:30immediately put on the phone with the 911 operator.
- 43:34The cops arrived a short time later and found the Groundhog
- 43:37still snacking on the woman's phone.
- 43:39The cops thanked Morris and instructed him to to get going
- 43:43while they finished things up. The Bernard Township Mayor
- 43:48Jennifer SA honored the teen on September 10th with a
- 43:52proclamation. He is the hero that we do not
- 43:56deserve. Groundhog ate the phone.
- 44:03The fact that the woman fell down to Groundhog, it was
- 44:07screaming and kicking at it. So anyway, yeah, good thing a
- 44:12ban was there to save her. Sorry, I'm watching television
- 44:17and there's a new serial out. I'm not making this up.
- 44:21It's the Kelsey Mix. Travis.
- 44:23And Travis and Jason Kelsey have a new serial.
- 44:27Great. But it's Taylor Swift.
- 44:31Has the NFL, the National Football League, and I'm going
- 44:35to erase that. I'm going to say has football
- 44:37and sports in general become a disgusting, unwatchable,
- 44:40embarrassing referee show? I'm going to have to say yes.
- 44:48The thrust of this article is the the the game the other night
- 44:51where it seemed like every every play was a penalty.
- 44:58Baseball has this problem now or has had this problem for many
- 45:01years about umpires that are turning things into a show,
- 45:06making it about themselves. There's a lot of discussion
- 45:10about whether or not ejections are more about they actually did
- 45:15something worthy of ejection or that the umpire just wanted to
- 45:18show show up a manager or whatever in the college ranks.
- 45:27I don't know in my lifetime that I've ever seen a worse season
- 45:30than this year. Officiating was the the calls
- 45:35that they're getting are just crazy bad.
- 45:42It's like they're making stuff up, the kind of stuff that goes
- 45:46in a box that you mail back. I have no dog in the fight of
- 45:53Virginia Tech versus Miami yesterday.
- 45:56Couldn't care less. In fact, usually when those two
- 45:59teams are playing, I'm rooting for the Hurricane to roll
- 46:01through. OK.
- 46:04But that call at the end of the game yesterday, if you didn't
- 46:08see it or don't care, it was the NFL had the same problem Once
- 46:15Upon a time when they were using scab refs because the refs were
- 46:18on strike. They had virtually the same play
- 46:23with virtually the same result. Wrong.
- 46:26And the next day the red, they settled the settled the the
- 46:30strike with the real referees because can't have that
- 46:33happening anymore. We don't have strike referees in
- 46:36college football now, but man watched the Wyoming Air Force
- 46:41game last night. I'm not even sure leaping the
- 46:48shield is a 15 yard penalty in college football.
- 46:54Leaping the shield I was playing.
- 46:56Football my entire life, never heard of that.
- 47:02OK. That's a 15 yard penalty.
- 47:06Worked out the Wyoming's advantage, which is fine, but I
- 47:10still don't know what the actual, I don't know, penalty
- 47:13was penalties. Referees are getting ridiculous.
- 47:18Note to anyone at the league office who reads some websites,
- 47:23even though you won't admit it. Stop throwing flags on every
- 47:26play. Stop it, stop it, stop it.
- 47:28It's miserable. You're making us miserable.
- 47:30The product stinks, it's fragmented, and frankly, we're
- 47:32tired of it. Thursday Night Football sucks
- 47:37enough on its own, and I cannot emphasize this enough.
- 47:40Thursday Night Football is not worth watching.
- 47:44No. Number one, you can only get it
- 47:47on Amazon Prime, which is problematic enough, which I also
- 47:54noted that the NFL Network this past week ran a Kansas City game
- 47:59on. It's a replay of Kansas City
- 48:01game on its network to compete with that.
- 48:05Love to see the ratings. See how that went?
- 48:08I don't know, 15 penalties and a half.
- 48:12Referees are getting out of control.
- 48:14And, and see, here's the great thing about it now is that now
- 48:17that now that I've brought this up, you'll be watching the NFL
- 48:19today and you'll be going. Now there's a lot of penalties
- 48:23that are just stupid. Al Michaels was great though on
- 48:27Thursday. Yeah, he was.
- 48:29Yeah, you're going to need some new flags to throw in the
- 48:31second-half. These ones are filthy.
- 48:35Al Michaels is in the last year. He doesn't care.
- 48:37He'll say anything now. So unlike the WNBA where they
- 48:41apparently don't call fouls at all.
- 48:44So which is not good for the WNBA because Caitlin Clark's out
- 48:49now. So now whatever interest there
- 48:51was in the WNBA playoffs. Bill is gone.
- 48:53Is gone. Nobody's going to foul that crap
- 48:57anyway. Is the NFL?
- 48:59Unwashable. It blows in a box.
- 49:01And I just happened to have one right here, which is the kind of
- 49:05thing that makes me say that. BTF.
- 49:50Welcome back. I'm Rabbi Dave.
- 49:52I am Friar Rod. And we would be remiss if we got
- 49:55out of here without mentioning the unmentionably largest story
- 50:01in the world right now, which obviously doesn't really involve
- 50:07Taylor Swift, so. Yet.
- 50:10Yeah, yet have you noticed since this story happened and I'll
- 50:16just spill it, the P Diddy arrest.
- 50:19Have you noticed how many celebrities are just absolutely
- 50:24wiping out their social media posts?
- 50:27Yeah, well, there's there's definitely some distancing going
- 50:29on. This is what you call social
- 50:32distancing. Except for Ellen DeGeneres, who
- 50:35apparently knew what was going on based on her tweets.
- 50:41P Diddy got arrested. I'm still not absolutely clear
- 50:48on what the charges are. I mean, I've read them, but
- 50:53doesn't seem to me as a casual observer and someone who has
- 50:57never purchased a Diddy album and never listened to AP Diddy
- 51:01song, they don't seem to me to be anything that I wouldn't have
- 51:09expected. In that there's nothing here
- 51:11that surprises me. Is that is that a way to put it?
- 51:15Except for the volume involved? 1000 bottles of baby oil.
- 51:25Now look, I don't want to get weird or anything here, but baby
- 51:31oil has its uses. But baby oil also goes a long
- 51:38way. It does.
- 51:39Little bit'll do you. Little dab will do you as they
- 51:42say. 1000 bottles were found supposedly during the raid on
- 51:51his place. That's.
- 51:56Weird enough, maybe it was like a really good BOGO sale, right?
- 52:03It's weird enough, but then his lawyer gets involved.
- 52:09Oh yeah. And his lawyer has the ultimate
- 52:12excuse. And I'm toying with using this
- 52:15excuse myself in the future should I ever be accused of
- 52:19excess in anything. The only thing I can think of
- 52:24off hand is coffee. But his lawyer says that there's
- 52:29a simple explanation for the rapper's massive supply of baby
- 52:33oil. He buys it in bulk.
- 52:40Well next next it's going to be the excuse that he grew up as a
- 52:44middle class kid. In a middle class household and
- 52:49the reason that he buys it in bulk is apparently because
- 52:52that's how Costco sells it. I've been to Costco and I've
- 52:56never noticed 1000 bottle bulks of being an oil but.
- 53:00Here's your here's your palette. Right, right.
- 53:06As for why Combs would need the 1000 bottles of baby oil, his
- 53:12lawyer said, Quote, I don't know where the number 1000 came from.
- 53:17Well, it came from the police, he went on.
- 53:22I can't imagine it's thousands of bottles of baby oil and Lube.
- 53:26And I'm not sure what baby oil has to do with anything.
- 53:32I guess I don't know what you need 1000 for.
- 53:34One bottle of baby oil goes a long way, his lawyer said.
- 53:41But then he added this Diddy has a big house.
- 53:44He buys in bulk. I think they have Costco's
- 53:47everywhere He has a home. I mean, have you sat in a
- 53:51parking lot of the Costco and see what people walk out of
- 53:54there with and admitted? I don't think it was 1000, but
- 54:01let's just say it was a lot. I don't know, man, I'm.
- 54:10Well, it didn't, you know, it didn't Costco come out and say,
- 54:13no, we don't, we don't have baby oil, so.
- 54:19I've never seen it there. I've never looked in fairness.
- 54:23They came out and countered it and said, well, no, we didn't.
- 54:25We didn't. We don't sell that so.
- 54:27Not in 1000 LB Bottled bulks, right?
- 54:31So it wasn't us, is what they said, distancing themselves
- 54:35further right? P Diddy.
- 54:36Not that they needed to. I can't imagine for the life of
- 54:41me that P Diddy ever stepped foot inside a Costco.
- 54:45Can you imagine the zoo that would be?
- 54:49See, this is the problem with being famous.
- 54:52We all think we want to be famous, but really, do you?
- 54:57I mean, do you want to live life where you know, you can't even,
- 55:01you can't even go to McDonald's or a, or a popular restaurant in
- 55:07Pittsburgh without, you know, having a massive crowd volume?
- 55:10The wee bit of fame that I had from singing on the worship team
- 55:13at church and being in musicals and stuff, I had people walking
- 55:17up to me in Costco's that I could vaguely remember talking
- 55:20to me like I was their best friend.
- 55:23Yep. Being a regional celebrity
- 55:24myself, that would happen to me all the time.
- 55:27That'd be a target, you know? And, and I was on radio.
- 55:30It's not like people saw my face every day.
- 55:33Yeah, unless they happen to see the KFIV van drive by and they
- 55:36went, oh, that's what he looks like.
- 55:38But I'd have people come up to me and Target.
- 55:42Aren't you, Dave? Well, I hope so.
- 55:45I'm wearing his underwear, would always be my reply.
- 55:48Which would catch them off guard usually, but.
- 55:50I'm sure. At any rate, you don't want to
- 55:53be famous. You really don't, because then
- 55:55you can't go to Costco. And even if you did go to
- 55:58Costco, people are watching what you buy and they're talking
- 56:01about it and posting it on social media.
- 56:05Dave just got a box. Of course I'm the one that told
- 56:13you that. You would have known if I hadn't
- 56:15told you. But anybody else have any
- 56:17experience with this? You haven't done this with with
- 56:21the Cologuard box, you, you haven't done this, have you?
- 56:24The pre the earlier tests were not in a box.
- 56:26You had to actually catch it in some kind of like piece of paper
- 56:29and then dip the stick in it and it was horrible.
- 56:34It was worse. Why am I see?
- 56:36I feel like I feel like I might get arrested for this like P
- 56:39Diddy. Maybe some baby oil will help
- 56:44you, Dave. How is it going to help me?
- 56:46I'm at low risk. I don't have colon cancer.
- 56:51And, and here's the weird thing about me, you know that stuff
- 56:57you have to drink? It doesn't bother me.
- 57:00It doesn't bother me at all. I've had to do that for other
- 57:04reasons and doesn't bother me at all.
- 57:08Yeah. So here's my question.
- 57:14Do I just ignore this box as I've done with the VA kits for
- 57:19the past five years? I think you need to do it.
- 57:23See what I'm afraid of is if I don't they're going to bill me
- 57:25for it, which is BS2 because it's just a box with some
- 57:30plastic in it. I mean how much can it cost?
- 57:34They they didn't actually do any tests.
- 57:35But what are you charging me for?
- 57:40Sorry I I know we were talking P Diddy and baby oil but.
- 57:45I wonder what the ratio is of those boxes sent out versus
- 57:47returned? It's an interesting question.
- 57:51I wonder too. Is it 50% higher?
- 57:54Maybe, Maybe 60. All I know is it's weird, man.
- 58:01It's it's weird and I'm freaking myself out and that's, that's
- 58:07the problem. I am just it's in my head now.
- 58:11And it wasn't. It was a perfectly normal
- 58:14conversation until he said those words.
- 58:16All you have to do is shit in the box.
- 58:18Soon as he said that it was like everything went dark.
- 58:24His vicious change from this nice old doctor guy to to Doctor
- 58:28X and I'm totally freaked out by it.
- 58:35You need some nitrous oxide, maybe that'll help.
- 58:37What I'm thinking is now here's my plan.
- 58:39OK. Get everything set up, drink
- 58:43heavily. Which probably isn't a good
- 58:46idea, because then I got to take it all down, don't I?
- 58:49Yeah, you have to be cogent enough to to seal it up, unless
- 58:54Cammy does it for you. How hard would it be, do you
- 58:57think, to get to talk my wife into?
- 59:01Is there a is there a honeydew list?
- 59:02Are the are there things that she needs, that she needs done
- 59:05that only you can do? Once I'm done, once I'm done
- 59:10with it, how hard is it to convince my wife that that that
- 59:14you pack it up and send it? She is a nurse, so I mean, not
- 59:22like she's never had to do that before.
- 59:26Well, stay tuned for updates because I'm sure we'll have more
- 59:29on this next week. Scintillating podcasting.
- 59:35I'm Rabbi Dave. I am Friar Rod and.
- 59:38This has been a disgusting with thousands of bottles of baby oil
- 59:43episode of. What the frock?