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Selective Ignorance: Ep. 80 | Power Of The Tongue · Decisions, Decisions

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to
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  Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
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  Speaker 1: a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Ayo!
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  Speaker 1: It's another episode of Selective Ignorance with me, your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mandy B. And per usual, we are getting into all
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  Speaker 1: of the things that had you outraged, the internet and uproar,
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  Speaker 1: and y'all leaning into your hypocrisy. First, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of ignorant shit that we got going on. Let me
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and give a warning. If you are of
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  Speaker 1: the church, you may feel a way. This is also
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  Speaker 1: a very special episode because everything is This Is America, babe.
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  Speaker 1: Black people don't lynch themselves. We talk about all of
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  Speaker 1: the new lynching cases happening around the America and why
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  Speaker 1: the hell it's not being discussed enough. Then a young
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  Speaker 1: woman is accused of opening fire after allegedly witnessing several
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  Speaker 1: men jump and pistol whip her older brother. She is
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  Speaker 1: now facing trial. five to 15 years in prison. How
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  Speaker 1: do we define defense when a weapon is used? And
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  Speaker 1: of course, I want to draw some parallels to other
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  Speaker 1: cases as well. Then we are heavily getting into surveillance. Now, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: I want to prepare you. We got someone who toasts
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  Speaker 1: the line of 50-50. So this will be fun because
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  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to call the hypocrisy out as we
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  Speaker 1: talk about abortion surveillance, body cam footage, and more. Then
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  Speaker 1: California has started a sex release program for the homeless.
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  Speaker 1: See how your tax dollars are being used in the
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  Speaker 1: state of California. And then, of course, when we get
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  Speaker 1: out of here, we are bringing an update to a
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  Speaker 1: case that took place a couple years ago. Shontari Young,
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  Speaker 1: the former owner of Lil Kidz Castle Daycare Center in
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  Speaker 1: Owings Mills, Maryland, is facing three pending civil lawsuits now
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  Speaker 1: tied to the abuse committed by her ex-husband at the daycare.
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  Speaker 1: Lock his ass up. Lock his ass up.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What does justice look like when you compare a criminal charge...
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  Speaker 1: You're going to jail. You're going to jail. to then
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  Speaker 1: a civil suit... Does doing jail make up for justice,
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  Speaker 1: or do you still want to be paid in retribution
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  Speaker 1: and reparations? We're talking about all the things. And we're hearing, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm nervous because this nigga got tequila in his system.
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  Speaker 1: Just going to go ahead and let it be known. Y'all, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: OG pot legend, A-King, is in the building.
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  Speaker 3: What's up? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: They got the fucking mangoes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: How you get the mangoes?
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  Speaker 3: You can't have shit.
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  Speaker 2: Mangoes?
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  Speaker 3: Mangoes are closed. The skin is closed. Like, you take
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  Speaker 3: off the.
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  Speaker 1: Skin and eat the mango. Now, when you say they
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  Speaker 1: got the mangoes.
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  Speaker 2: Salmonella.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Wait, is it that on it?
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  Speaker 3: That's what they claim.
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  Speaker 1: They said salmonella? That gets on fruit?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be.
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  Speaker 1: It gets on everything.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, the things that happen in this modern time that
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  Speaker 2: we're in are not the same that happened in 1995
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  Speaker 2: or 2015.
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  Speaker 3: Salmonella, E.
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  Speaker 1: Coli, just like COVID.
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  Speaker 3: West Nile virus and the mosquitoes.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're all man-made. They're all man-made.
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  Speaker 1: These are all man-made bacterias. You're not going to convince
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  Speaker 1: me otherwise. Like these bacterias that are living in meat,
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  Speaker 1: that are living in canned goods, that are living in fruit.
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  Speaker 1: How do all the same bacteria even form to be
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  Speaker 1: in all of these different environments?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that the uptick in all of the
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  Speaker 2: recalls or warnings, I guess at this point, because they're
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  Speaker 2: still selling this shit, right? Right. Usually when there's a recall,
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  Speaker 2: they pull it off the shelves. But do you think
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  Speaker 2: that they have a group of people going around these particular...
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  Speaker 2: distribution centers and just like depositing.
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  Speaker 1: Are we starting off with conspiracy theories?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know because it's usually once every so often.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bunch of shit at one time.
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  Speaker 1: The problem, let's not.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 2: The wipes, they got the wipes.
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  Speaker 3: The wipes could cause sepsis.
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  Speaker 2: A-King.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, sepsis.
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  Speaker 2: A-King. Do you know about that?
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  Speaker 1: Let's not be distracted here.
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  Speaker 3: No, seriously. This is a recall.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You introducing a goddamn conspiracy.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. Hold on. It could be.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It literally takes the fingers away from
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  Speaker 1: the administration that defunded the regulation of the program that
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  Speaker 1: are supposed to regulate.
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  Speaker 2: But regulate is one thing. Regulate and prevention. But somebody,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, something is happening at once to cause this
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  Speaker 2: disturbance where nobody could catch it.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, do you see how you're just not listening? You
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  Speaker 1: are being distracted. The problem here is the administration removing
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  Speaker 1: funding of regulators.
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  Speaker 2: To catch it. My point.
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  Speaker 3: So, no. But you're saying the people that are doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: That's one end of the spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: There's a source materially.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to answer this? There are no people
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  Speaker 1: depositing this.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It is the fact that when we had regulators.
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  Speaker 3: How do you know?
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  Speaker 1: You had to have a certain level.
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  Speaker 2: To catch it. You ready?
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the difference between federal regulation and
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  Speaker 1: state regulation.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same way how when you go to New York,
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  Speaker 1: we know you have rated letters. A, B, C, D, F.
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  Speaker 2: For the stores and restaurants and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They do it for electricity and the wellness of the building.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And how well they maintain the cooling.
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  Speaker 3: The energy usage.
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  Speaker 2: The efficiency. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And for food, they rate it. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's regulated.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: And if you get a certain grade letter a certain
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  Speaker 1: amount of times, you have to close it or you're fined.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Every state doesn't do that. But what I'm saying is
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  Speaker 1: the FDA and the regulators in charge of what we
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  Speaker 1: consume as a country, which also is not approved in
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  Speaker 1: mad other countries. What I'm saying is our administration is
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  Speaker 1: to blame. Let's not think that a leprechaun is going
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  Speaker 1: into the goddamn... facilities depositing the bacteria. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: fact that it's now not being regulated.
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  Speaker 2: Also, two things could be true. The same people can
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  Speaker 2: also enlist and deploy to have an unstable food chain.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have regulation, right? They still selling the shit
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  Speaker 3: in stores, right?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, King, I just want you to know, when we
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  Speaker 1: have these conversations... And we lean into the ignorance. You
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  Speaker 1: are giving the right winger, you're giving everyone an out
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  Speaker 1: by saying there's a man going. One moment, one moment.
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  Speaker 1: When you don't blame the administration, when you don't blame
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  Speaker 1: the lack of funding for things, when you don't blame
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  Speaker 1: the actual problem and then you create an imaginary man
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  Speaker 1: that's in here. dumping suppositories into all of our food,
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  Speaker 1: you remove the real conversation and problem. Anyways, we also
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  Speaker 1: have the king of headlines, Jason John Lee.
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  Speaker 2: We got to come back to that because I want
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  Speaker 2: to rebut something you said.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to rebut it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Jason.
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  Speaker 3: Pop blessing all the yap niggas. Do you feel me?
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  Speaker 1: Because you're looking at him like, nigga, shut up.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: It says that. It said to create an unstable food chain. Well, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 3: Who is causing that?
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  Speaker 1: It could easily be.
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  Speaker 3: There could be two things at play here. Someone... And
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  Speaker 3: as much as I hate conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 1: This is a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 3: As much as I hate conspiracy theories... This nigga walking.
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  Speaker 1: Around in a leprechaun outfit, depositing E. coli and salmonella.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a purposeful
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  Speaker 2: disruption of... I wouldn't be surprised if there was someone
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  Speaker 2: creating something or doing something to the food... to the water,
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  Speaker 2: what have you. Also doesn't... Obviously, the administration has clearly
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  Speaker 2: decided that the FDA is not that important anymore.
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  Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 3: And we can just let shit slide past.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the question really becomes who is benefiting from that
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  Speaker 2: and what corporation gets benefit from those things happening?
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  Speaker 1: It's capitalism.
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  Speaker 2: Is it... Are they disrupting the food chain and gutting
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  Speaker 2: the FDA because... They want food insecurity. It's in Friday 2025.
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  Speaker 2: But no, but is it to make money for the
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  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical industry?
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  Speaker 3: It's not to make money. It's not to make money, Ja.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what is it? It's to cause.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how do you get rid of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people by a particular year?
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  Speaker 3: These are part of the things you do. You create
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  Speaker 3: food instability. What do we need?
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  Speaker 2: Food to live, right? Power, electric... Tequila. Electricity, power, the
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  Speaker 2: natural resources that we all use day to day to
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  Speaker 2: survive in this hole. If you disrupt that shit and
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  Speaker 2: have niggas quarreling with each other, you help them allegedly get.
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  Speaker 3: Rid of the- I mean, listen, chaos is useful to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: So I would never summarily dismiss the idea that someone
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  Speaker 2: is trying to bring chaos into society. Now, whether that's
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  Speaker 2: through food or not.
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  Speaker 3: It's something totally different.
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  Speaker 1: Chaos is useful to a lot of people how?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the on what the level of chaos is, if
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about illnesses, not just necessarily COVID, but any illnesses,
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  Speaker 2: if there's chaos up foot, Is that helping the pharmaceutical industry?
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  Speaker 2: Are there companies making medicines that are supposed to fix
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  Speaker 2: things or cure things?
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  Speaker 1: And there was, we saw that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they want people to take because there's chaos afoot.
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  Speaker 2: Is chaos helping? I mean, protest is chaos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, so chaos can be helpful for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different entities and a lot of different places. So
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  Speaker 2: and unfortunately, we can't trust the government. We should never
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  Speaker 2: trust the government.
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  Speaker 3: I trust them.
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  Speaker 1: You trust the government?
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  Speaker 3: You know why? All right.
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  Speaker 2: Will you trust them to be who they are?
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  Speaker 3: You know why? Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Because they told us what they were doing and they're
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  Speaker 2: doing it. And we're acting like we don't know why
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  Speaker 2: they're doing it because they told us.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's fair. I think we should
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  Speaker 3: do a deep dive into that book that they... The manual.
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  Speaker 2: I think the manual laid out their plan. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we ignored a lot of the shit in there.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of things that's playing out, they just
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  Speaker 2: standing back. That's why they ain't talking about it. Well, unfortunately, it's...
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  Speaker 2: It's a little too late now because the toothpaste is
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  Speaker 2: out of the tube.
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  Speaker 1: And we can't put it back in.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, they've.
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  Speaker 2: Decided that they're going to vote for Trump. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to make him president again. He's going to hire all
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  Speaker 2: the people who wrote this book to do all this bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: And here we are, just suffering through it.
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  Speaker 1: Talking on the podcast about it.
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  Speaker 2: Hoping to God.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh! Not us. Potting.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, what a difference we're making here.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to tell you something, Mandy. As a friend.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: A long time friend.
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  Speaker 1: Where are we going?
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  Speaker 2: You... Doesn't she look good debating and conveying? She doesn't...
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  Speaker 2: She's not the aggressive... She's not the aggressive Mandy B
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  Speaker 2: and the people be commenting at her. I can find
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  Speaker 2: it hard... Like, really, do y'all really don't like talking
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  Speaker 2: to her? Like, she could be the real life coach
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  Speaker 2: that we need, not Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Cheyenne Bryant. Honestly, real shit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to coach none of these niggas.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't even going to hold you. Don't underestimate the
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  Speaker 2: power of the tongue.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. And not.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 3: You don't put this on me? No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all continue to be the liars, the delusionists, the people
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  Speaker 1: that y'all are.
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  Speaker 2: Mandy, you are an accountability hero. Even throughout the bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Meaning the media and all, you know, obviously entertaining, right?
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 2: I know you, and I know there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people who benefit from your sound advice, your sound- I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Need this honorary degree that you're trying.
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  Speaker 2: To give me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't need it.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to hang it up.
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  Speaker 1: Not accepting it.
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  Speaker 2: Is honorary degrees worth anything anymore? Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Are they?
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  Speaker 1: It made Dr. Cheyenne Bryant a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a 49er- It made Chris Brown a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a 49er, then you can- They was doing
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  Speaker 3: a run in 2025 of niggas with them shits.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 1: Has an honorary degree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and in fairness. Would you get one?
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  Speaker 3: Would you accept one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone wants to give me one,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not going to lie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get up there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dr. Mandy B, bitch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 2: Maya Angelou had dozens of honorary degrees. She was not
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  Speaker 2: a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, ever? No.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think Maya Angelou went to college. Maya
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  Speaker 2: Angelou was just a brilliant person who read a lot.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't ignorant. She had information, but she wasn't formally
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  Speaker 2: trained to be a doctor or anything. She just knew
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck she was talking about because she was
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  Speaker 2: smart and she read. She took in information.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not coaching any of y'all in your lives.
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  Speaker 1: I'm simply sharing my thoughts and opinions on how we're
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  Speaker 1: living life. Y'all do with it as you please. This
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  Speaker 1: is for entertainment purposes only, okay?
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  Speaker 2: We try.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's start with our ignorant shit. Somehow,
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  Speaker 1: we were at lunch, and Fabio Foran got on the docket.
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  Speaker 3: This is straight you.
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  Speaker 1: Big Brooklyn, go ahead and talk about, uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Look, man, I'm always about growth and development.
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  Speaker 1: Christian rapper Fabio Foran, by the way, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Fabio has turned a new leaf in life. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, he just recently got baptized. Giving his
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  Speaker 2: life to the Lord. Giving his life to the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: But he came under scrutiny because... What's the word? Scrutiny. Scrups.
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  Speaker 3: Because.
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  Speaker 1: Scrutiny.
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  Speaker 2: I just said that.
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  Speaker 1: You selling... Scrutiny. You saying streusel.
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  Speaker 2: Scrutiny. Streusel. Salmon.
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  Speaker 1: Salmon. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So he came under fire.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Came under fire.
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  Speaker 2: Because when he got baptized, he had, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: some would might... say that it's an honorary blue bandana,
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  Speaker 2: which identifies his street LLC affiliation.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And they say, well, why get baptized with that instead
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  Speaker 2: of just getting baptized? You know, you're playing both sides
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  Speaker 2: of the coin. You got one foot in the street,
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  Speaker 2: so you got one foot with the Lord.
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  Speaker 1: Crips for Christ.
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  Speaker 3: Crips for Christ.
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  Speaker 1: Crips for Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Crips for Christ.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Crips for Christ.
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  Speaker 1: God apparently accepts all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Loves you for who you are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, come as you are.
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  Speaker 1: And so the same way you can be Gay and
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  Speaker 1: walk into a church with your husband or your man
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  Speaker 1: as if they don't approve of that.
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  Speaker 3: Is that all churches, though?
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of churches.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I know the ones that specifically say they put on
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: there all are welcome. And I'm like, well, why would
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: you say that? That should be a known thing.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: It should because in the Christian religion, it's not that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: They say it. They don't mean it. What is it?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Treat you like the neighbor or whatever?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do unto others as you would have them
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: do unto you. If I was gay, I would be
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: in church every Sunday being gay as hell.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: But why?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Because that's the type of nigga I am. I want
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: to troll you. You want to know I'm here.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: So I would be the gayest nigga in church.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, Jason Jolly, Kwanzaa Jones?
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why gay people go to church. They
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: don't respect you. They don't approve you. They don't accept you.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Because gay people might still love Jesus. They might still
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: believe in God.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how you follow a religion that doesn't
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: accept you.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I think gay people believe in God.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Find a different faith.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Last episode, a couple weeks ago, we talked about the
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: fact that The Bible does not talk about this. There's
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: no mention of really being homophobic in the Bible. This
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: is a man-made thing that people are using. So if
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I am gay and I want to go to church
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and I believe in God, I'm going and you man-made
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: crackers can't tell me that that's not what God wants
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: from me. Y'all don't know God. But I got a
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: question for you. You said man-made. Is the Bible man-made?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: It is. The Bible is interpreted by men.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Like, the original, who knows what the original context of
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: the Bible was.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all, actually.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But people have decided what it means, and they've decided
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that they believe in exactly what a man deciphered.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Are you ready, though? So, damn, didn't know I was
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: going to bring this ignorant conversation.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I had a couple weeks ago. Well, a selective ignorance. Okay.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: When I tell you, I haven't had a conversation with
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a person in a very long time that I got
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: up and was like, I never want a conversation with
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: this person. The spirit of evil jumped out from this person.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: The black conservative? In a way that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: It's weird because it was given more FBA, but not.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: 6-7.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: But the conversation led heavily into this right here, right?
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So she immediately went to wanting to ask me my sign.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And I said, oh girl, I don't do that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: All the woo-woo shit.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't do... What's your sign? What's your house?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: What's your moon?
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Your sun rising and all of that shit.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Anyone who's been listening to me long enough, baby. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: she goes to say that astrology is the foundational belief system.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: We have religion and all those two. Mind you, she
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is Christian as well.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Which is.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: She goes into.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Hold on. Wait, wait.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: We get there further.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: We get there further.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So she takes astrology as the foundational basis of a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: religion and a belief system, right?
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I can see that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And she takes it to... Egypt and the pyramids. So
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: she goes into the hieroglyphics and the way that it
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: was depicted at this time. And you know how they
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: say the pyramids were built and it was black people
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that did it and astrology. That's nice. Okay. I'm not
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: debating you. Oh, I'm about to tell you. So she
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sits there and turns my whole thing into, I don't
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: like Egypt. I don't like where our black people came from.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Who don't like it?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I never said that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, she said you don't.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: She's saying because I'm just not acknowledging it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Because you're not accepting of that theory or that ideology of.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So I said, there are holes in every religion, right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Because then she goes into Christianity and her belief in God.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, well, there's a God for a lot
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But... So she goes to pretty much say how... everything
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is wrong and everything she's saying is fact.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, no. We both have different
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: belief systems and opinions. Neither of us are right or wrong.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you you're wrong. I'm telling you I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: don't believe it. That doesn't make what you're saying wrong.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because someone could tell you the truth and I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: don't believe that that's the truth.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So no, she debated me on that. She's like, no,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you're wrong and what I'm saying is fact. Do you
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: know I asked her, I said, well, if what you're
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: saying is fact, hieroglyphics, the pyramids, astrology being the foundational system,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: what is your source? Do you know what she says? Encyclopedias.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And I said, bitch, a book written by humans like
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the Bible was. And that's where we got into that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I said, the Bible is an interpretation and a storytelling
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and a, A system created or written, regardless, by a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: human being. If I can't trust the government, why do
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I trust this book and story? Also, of folklore tales
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that are reimagined, retold, different testaments throughout time, reimagined, interpreted,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: depending on what church you go to, differently.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Differently, yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm also, science gets completely ignored because I'm supposed
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to believe that The whole sea was parted. The sea
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that we can't reach the bottom to. Because we only
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: know 20% of what's in these oceans and shit.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's a fact.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: So, like, I'm sitting here talking. I'm just like, it's okay, like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that we have differences of opinion. And when I tell
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you by the end, not only was my brain so hurt,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh. And this is why y'all come
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out looking like you're in a cult. Because.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: What, this in person?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: This was in person.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And when I say... My food.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, dinner?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, eating? Oh, shit.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Couldn't get there quick enough.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: But you got to understand something. How about everything was man-made?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. But I get it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And then she also said sciences make beliefs. She believes
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: science is reinterpreted and told by people. But the Bible
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and the encyclopedia and hieroglyphics is not.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Wait, so is she one of them people that, like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: She's a witch.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Is she going to CMOS herself to health when she's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: sick or she's going to fucking like.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: She was.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Calling and referring to people as like succubuses, demons. Like
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: she was talking also from the realm of witchy shit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't... I can't... Like I can't do this.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And my thing about it is.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But also like if we're going to have a conversation...
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: respect that I have a different belief system because I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: respecting yours. But to sit here and just tell me, nope,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you're wrong and you try to spend your time trying
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: to convince me. But also, like, while undermining me, my
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: belief system and all those things, it reminds me of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: how Christians move with their God being above Buddhist gods,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: above Allah, above any of the other gods.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: There's only one story.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Somehow, this story is above the world that follows a
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: different religion.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Well, people like that have internalized that that is who
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: they are. There isn't room for anything else because if
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: there's room for anything else, then they are fake or
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they are lesser than or they won't accept anything else
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: because that's who they've made themselves to be, the Bible
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: or God or whatever thing they believe in. That is
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: literally how they feel like their makeup is as a person.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Let's be very clear.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Like, it's a personal attack on them to have another.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: In terms of getting ignorant and giving the attacks, the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: conversation went to.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Were you inviting of her information?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Well, that was one of the things.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I questioned her, right? Okay, okay.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And she didn't have answers for me. So, like, your
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: belief system, your God, your way in which you believe
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: life and society to operate and run is based off
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of a premise.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So have you died and come back to life? I said,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: have you been to heaven? You know anybody that's been there?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm literally asking her because you and your religious beliefs,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the source would be that someone has been there and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: seen it.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: There's some evidence of it, right?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: You don't know until you die.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Right. And you can't come back and tell nobody.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I said, you died? You know someone that died and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: came back to you and told you that they went there?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: No, they're going off of the word.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And so that's my thing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: The hope of.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: And I get that life is hard.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: The hope of afterlife.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: To me, religion is needed to give hope. So many
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: people would have offed themselves, trigger warning, without hope.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: The circumstances that we are given in terms of God,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: why me? When does this get better? What obstacle are
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you going to give me next? Why did my uncle
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: touch me that way? Why was I born into poverty?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Why do I not have a friend that I can trust?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Why did my best friend sleep with my baby daddy? Why, why, why, why, why?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: There's so many things that hurt us in life. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: understand needing hope and the belief that after you go
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: through all these obstacles and tribulations of your life that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you're going to get somewhere where everything is nice. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: get that. and that all your sins will be forgiven.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter how bad you kind of are
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: on earth, our God is a forgiving God.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: You still have a chance.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I understand the premise of it. I don't understand how
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I sit here and question it, why I can't sit
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: with someone, and instead of trying to tell me I'm
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: wrong and that everything I'm saying is not factual, that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: we can't just exist to where it is. And it
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: got really like, I never want to do this again.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Talk to you ever again with this conversation.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'll tell y'all off air how far it got.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The contradictoriness of it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, D, you know what this is?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's astrology and Christianity is like... Automatically, it's already like.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It's not that it's one against the other. It's not.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But those contradictory songs.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: But usually Christians don't... They don't acknowledge that part of it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to subscribe to other explanations of the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: world other than God and the Bible.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: But also to sit with someone who, okay, in one realm, literally,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you're a Christian. In another realm, you're spiritual. In another realm,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you're a witch.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: All of those. Witches are good, though. Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can be a witch and a Christian.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: When you are.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Using words like succubus, demon, when you're using the underworld terms.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not godly. That's not anything to do with it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. Did you know her.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: For a long time?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I met her a long time ago.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's just like, hey, let's grab dinner.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: No. We'll talk about that off air.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I met her a long time ago, know her from
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. Okay. And today, and who I am,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and maybe because we're not in the club no more,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and we actually got to sit there and talk.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Basically, the energy was so dark, and so I said,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I never want to be around her again in life.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It's funny, though, that we're even bringing this up, because
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I had a conversation with my lady last week, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: we were talking about... People talk about the power of
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the tongue, right? And like speaking positivity, speaking life into things,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And which I don't.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I want to speak life out of some things.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But my question was, it's not that I don't believe
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be positive, but when people talk about
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the power of the tongue, I don't really understand it
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, so does that mean if you just
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: say all the positive shit that something great will happen.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: To you because you said it and because you believe
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that because you just said that?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You ready for the hypocrisy here?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: It's very scary, but yes.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: It's manifesting.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Hold on. And I hate that word, too. My boyfriend
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: actually calls it manifesting.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jesus Christ. No, don't do this.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Don't do this.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jesus. 500 points to boyfriend. 500 points. Boyfriend. He
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: ate that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He ate that. Boyfriend calls it manifesting. That's the name
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of the episode.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Let me hear you. Hear me out. Me and Yomi
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: have even talked about this.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Top of the year when we started working with each other.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: First off, this... We manifested. Us being New York Times bestsellers,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody think we would be. Somehow we ended up
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: So me and Yomi are planning out what selective ignorance
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: looks like, the things we want to do at the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: top of the year. We both said the things we
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: wanted that would be new for us. Outside of the pod,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but you did Rory and Maul. You've been in this
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: space a long time. What else? What else can we
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: say that we want to do outside of the pod?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: She said, I don't want you to be nervous, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I want to go on tour.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: She literally asked me to put her in with LVRN.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: She got to shoot O'Day, Odell, however you- ODL. ODL, yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And she's constantly asking in New York. She gets asked
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to go on the cold tour.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I tell her I want to do?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Man on the street content. I get a deal working
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: with the Spill app.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And Gilead. And literally at the top of the year,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: we said it. I also said- I miss my partner.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I said I want to make my money back for
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: this pod. Like, everything that I have said and that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I've wanted, I've actually, no, there's not one thing I haven't.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: The loft that I live in, I used to say
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that was my dream apartment. The way it looks down
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to like the T, I got everything I wanted. It
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: literally showed up on my search list. I was at
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the airport. It wasn't, I was at the airport and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I went to Zillow. It was the first one I called.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: First place I saw, I got it. So this power
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of the tongue, yes, I'm not a witch. However, in
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: terms of putting yourself in position and speaking ill, it's
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: why like, it's why like, he'll check me all the time.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Don't ever say you're broke. Don't say you're poor. Say
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it's coming. The way he, even, and my friends train
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: me in saying the ways, the power of the tongue
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is real. I'm not a witch, and this may sound
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: really hypocritical now, but it's not manifest, it's manifesting.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, as above, so below.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So when you speak things into existence, when you speak things,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you can speak things into existence, because we're all part
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: of this universe. But this is my question, though.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: What's the question?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't see anything wrong with being positive and, like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: saying things you want, whatever the case is.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: But is that why it happened? Because to me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Well, there's steps there.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Having a positive attitude is important in anything you do. Right.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But if you've put in the work and you've done
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the things that you want to do, if you have
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: goals or certain things you want to achieve, is.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Even if you never said it out loud, is that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to say that those things would never come to fruition
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: because you didn't.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Speak the name?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: No, but you're ready?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Or something bad happens, is that to say that if
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: you had a negative thought?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Because we all have negative thoughts.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: We all have times that we're not in the greatest
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: head space.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: So does that mean it won't happen because you're in
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: a bad space?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: No, you know how they say, right place, wrong time?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Or wrong place, right, whatever.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You know how, like, there's a thing of things will
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: come back to you when it's meant to be and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: all those things? This opportunity came to me from being
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a nice person to someone a year before. In Cannes.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Drunk.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Meeting someone and then experiencing me in a way that
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: later came back to me.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Same with Yomi. Relationship building always means something.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: It's very, very important.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It always means something.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Very important.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It's currency.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: There's currency in that, right? And so the same way
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: someone goes to church and tithes and they expect their
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: tithing and offering to somehow come back to them in
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the universe.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: To mean something.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: If you're not a good person and you're not putting
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that in. social equity. You're not putting it in relationship building.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You're not genuinely showing up as a good person. Believing
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that you deserve a certain life because you show.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Up on time.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You show up on time.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Can't be late if they can't go bless you.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Nigga, if you are late, God ain't gonna bless you.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He said be on time. God ain't got no clock.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is when you show up in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: life a certain way, you genuinely believe You're doing things.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You're creating momentum for yourself too.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if momentum is the right word, but
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: doors open.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Doors open.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Things happen that you can't see until you get to
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the destination because it's.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: A journey, right?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: No, I believe in that wholeheartedly. I think that, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I had this conversation with one of our mutual friends
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: that we talked about last week. The one that got
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: in a hissy fit about you not picking up off
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the airport?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that too off the air.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: It worked out, but it's not going to work out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. But anyway, I think that Big Sean has an
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: album called I Decided. And I think that deciding is
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a powerful thing. I think once you actually decide this
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: is what I'm going to do, I think that the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: chessboard of life moves.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Pieces in a way that will be in your favor.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Who controls the chessboard? I would say God.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Or whatever higher power you believe in. For those people
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: For the souls who have other things.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: That's me too. I believe that If I had to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: say there was a God, the God would be the universe.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So I believe in things aligning. I believe in us literally.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I believe in life being a game of Monopoly, essentially.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Or maybe not a Monopoly.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Life is life. I forgot. There's a board game called life.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And you reach crossroads where you're able to make certain decisions.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: To be honest, I'll never forget it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I went.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The final interview process. They flew me down here to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Atlanta to interview with Delta. I was like, I love
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: traveling the world.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I passed the interview. I ended up meeting another fucking
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: flight attendant in the club. She told me what the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: questions were going to be. I thought I aced it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't get the job. And when I tell you,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I was so heartbroken. I didn't get the job. And
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: so you know what I decided to do? Go back
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to school. I go back to school. I land all
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: these jobs that I want to land. And even in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: terms of me moving to New York, me being wherever
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I needed to be, Weezy ending up there, I'm exactly where...
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I even think of like, damn, Weezy, you moved to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: New York of all places from Orlando? People don't leave Orlando.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: We end up here at an impasse. We weren't friends
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for five years. We redo the show. I don't want kids.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I'm in what my legacy is. And so to me though,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: my sister just sent me a meme. And I literally
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is how crazy life is. So
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to read this. She sends this to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: me in a, and this is what I mean by powerful.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: She sends me a meme and she's like, oh my God,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: this was you. The meme says, and I was like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I almost had an out-of-body experience. Never played bride as
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a kid. I was too busy pretending to be a hot, famous,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: booked and busy pop star. And to be honest, that
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: says a lot about who I am today. My sister
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: sent me this.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I'll take it a step further.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: In 2023, 2024, I believe, I remember you and I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: had a conversation, you know, just catching up and shit.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And I remember you was like, we were trying to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: figure out what we were doing post-pandemic type shit. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: then you had another idea in mind with another collective
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of people. Just an idea, but the destination was you
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: transitioning from New York to Atlanta.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: That was the baseline.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I was talking about Atlanta.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I was talking about Atlanta for a while.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: There was other things that what you were going to do.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: That was kind of like a mixed bag. But the
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: goal was I'm going to do that thing.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not even going to lie. And I've said
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that too. Do I like Atlanta? No. Four months after
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: moving here, my best friend is diagnosed. I'm like, I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be here. I was always going to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: be here. Then I get here, know that we started
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: this pod up in New York. I didn't know how
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: this was going.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: To fit on.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Off of another idea, because that wasn't even a thing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Off of another idea. And then guess who's here? Yomi
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and her, who literally are like.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, sidebar. Big sidebar.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I met Yomi and Dee at some other spot.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Didn't know that they knew her. All I remember, one of.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Them had a Yankee... I think it was Yomi had
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a Yankee hat.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what it was. Like, oh, you
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: from New York? Oh, you from New York?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we just moved down here. Oh, let's connect.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know so-and-so?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: And it was light. And then as we started developing
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: this thing.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Moved down here, literally the same.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, Yomi, I'm like... Oh, shit, that's the one... Oh, no,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: we went to the Democratic.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That shit showed right before the election.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Not the DNC.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: No, it was down here. It was a panel with
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Angie Martinez.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: And I think that's when they was at there again.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: They was like, wait.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Then the connection was strong.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: This is who they were talking about the whole time,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: but they didn't know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: But they're here.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And then naturally, look, this is the thing that happened.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: But you ready?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But you ready? And then in conversation, everything... That D
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and Yomi have, they talked about and wanted it coming
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: here in a city that's brand new. Potters, no shade
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to Atlanta. They operate a little differently than in New York.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Than New York and other places.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: The rates down here.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, right.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: How much people are willing to pay the money?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Same thing. The geographics, the currency of even this industry
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is different down here. I say all that to say.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: The power of the tongue.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: The power of the tongue is very powerful.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: That's what it does. It gets you to that O.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: That big O.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: The big O.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Shit, even you guys, even when we were recording down here,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: we was like, damn, who should we get as a guest? Yo,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: let's get Ja on the show. And when we had
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you on the joint, then it was like, damn, that
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: episode did well. And we're still trying to figure out
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: this thing.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But also not knowing that you wanted to enter this space.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: But that's what I was going to say. For me.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I spent, I would say, a good solid year kind
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of in what I would call somewhat of a semi-depression
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of like, damn, what the fuck am I going to do?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: What am I going to do? And then when I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: was like, all right, I kind of want to enter
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: this podcast space because I've got opinions and shit to say.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, I can do this
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: shit on my own. I can figure it out and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: just do it, record whatever the case is. But I'm like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I've spent so much time in this media space, in
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: this industry. I'm like, I know I can get help,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: but who do I call to help me do this thing?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: And it be the most obvious thing. And at one point,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, shit. A. King lived down here now.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit. Allegedly. I was about to say. That's for
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: the people out there that knows you.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Y'all don't got no nigga business to say. They don't
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: got no nigga business.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I still get invited to... Everything New York.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And I just be like, I'm not in town.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I'll be getting FOMO sometimes. I never had it, but
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: then I was like- No.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I'm mad because, yeah, I did just get invited.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: To- Some big shit. Big shit. Hold on.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It was a brunch panel slash free all expense paid
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: trip to fucking Mexico.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Mamba cloud.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to be in Paris.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Fair enough.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: But, you know, I just be busy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: But it's like, oh shit. My niggas that I've been
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: known for years and years and years are right here
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: right now. Why don't I just call them up talk
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to them about this and see what we can do?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: What is available?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: What's the idea?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Do they have any ideas based on what I'm saying?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: The ancestors are listening. When you speak it out there-
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: And now we're here. You ever speak in tongue? You
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: ever seen them speak in tongue?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie. And now you took it
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: too far.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: And now you took it too far. Yeah, that's when
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I get a little nervous. No, no, no.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: And that's where it's like, did you just see the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: bullshit that went by him? No, did you see the bullshit?
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That's when I get like, I don't know.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Did y'all see them praying the devil of gluttony out
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of a big bitch?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yo, I seen them do that about sex, too. Are
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: you serious? She was sucking too much dick.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Bruh, and they laid a hand and they.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. Get the fuck out of here. That
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: is not the power of tongues. Yo, that's crazy.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: That is not the power of tongues. And he's telling
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: her what she did.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Get all the semen out your mouth. Get all of the.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, how do you do that?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: They say I sound like I got semen in my throat.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's the... You know how they talk about bitches? They
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: talk about my weight and my voice.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: That's why ignorant.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do swallow.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But then I chase it with water.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Women that have different vocal tones have to swallow.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: It's not just sitting there.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: They're not just sitting right here. At some point, my
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: vocal cords.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I get water after.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: It's not throat coke.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: You know? Anyways. Wow.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: We are not.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Shout out to your friend, whoever you had. No, she's
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: not my friend. I mean, the lady.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: The lady.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: The lady.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I will say, we haven't done this in a while.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Y'all will not be getting all of the topics that
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I said at the top of this episode.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: We said that shit like three times, three episodes before.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Let me let y'all motherfuckers know.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: No tequila. Tequila on Sundays. Has it really been that long?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Wait, 24 or 44?
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Are you serious?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Nah. Nah. Nah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Nah. Nah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Nah. Nah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Nah. Nah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Nah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Nah. Nah. Nah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: It allowed me to appreciate, y'all, the people within my
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: ecosystem that, yes, clearly we disagree on a myriad of topics, right?
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But there's always a level of respect to agree to disagree.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And to respect where someone's coming from.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Without completely, like.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: You wrong. Shutting them down all the way.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Right. Right.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: When I tell A. King he don't stand on business
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and he a 50-50 ass nigga, I still.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Love you like cooked food. She hurt my feelings two
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. We're not going to talk about that now.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love that you just said that. I'm like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: this is how people crash out and then they ask you,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: how did that happen? Because they want to prove themselves.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: And then when you find out, oh yeah, she was like, oh,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't do that. I just want to.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Say, if you share all that, basically, I'm not going
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to say the name.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say the name of the person.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the name of the person.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: But just know, When y'all see it happen in real life,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to egg it on that it happens
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: in real life, y'all going to come right back here. Basically,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, we should go on this person's show.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: They should come on ours. We should cross collab. He said,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: that nigga... is bitch-ass niggery. That's all he taught.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I did not say that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: He's a niggery bitch-assness.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I never said that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Those were the words.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I was... Niggery bitch-assness? What is it? I took discourse
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: with how he conducted himself in front of someone.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Bitch-ass niggery.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And then you said, I bet you won't say it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: To his face.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And I literally told him.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: So, no, no, no. And I had to remind her,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I'm a nigger in the industry, not an industry nigger.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: That is what he said.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: End scene cut.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And now, I can't wait. So he don't bring that
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: cold switch and shit to that nigga's face.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: For someone to....
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Trying to think of the non-poresworthy way to say this.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: For you to bring that out of me, I can't
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: do it. I would be on defense. I would never
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: just openly be like, oh yeah, you legit. It would
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: have to be, let's have a conversation and then when
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: we go through the motions, it might be respectful.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Now, if it don't, then.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully we can make that.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Particular thing happen.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: You got a whole bunch of, you got a chalkboard
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: list of niggas. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I hope that we can make that thing happen because
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I think that would be a good time for me.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to run down where I think we
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: should go with this.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. Let's go.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I am hoping that we can get- You.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Going to Detroit?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Either- That's why.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You want to go to Detroit? All right. I'm hoping
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: we can get either a Carlos Miller, a Consciously- someone
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to talk about the lynching that's happening in this country
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: right now. We'll skip that. We also talk a lot
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: about gun laws. So let's go straight to the layers
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of surveillance. Okay. Because when I call you a 50-50
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: ass nigga.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: In pre-production... I can't be a brother.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: 50-50 brother.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: 50-50 human being.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: You're human first.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Is that more than three seconds?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, never mind. You're black first.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: 50-50 black human being. So the conversation around surveillance has
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: been heavily discussed.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I'm lying.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Hasn't been discussed enough, honestly. Now, I say that to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: say a couple of weeks or months ago now, we
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: were supposed to have the conversation of Atlanta being the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: most surveyed city.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're watching everything.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Recently, there have been stories coming out of Texas and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: other red states around the surveillance of abortions. Now, when
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I say the surveillance of abortions, recently, over 700 cameras
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: in the state of Texas were used to track down
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: a woman who had an abortion.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: It's fucking terrifying.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Still mad missing children out here.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Still mad. Criminals on the loose.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: All kind of shit going on. This is what y'all
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: worried about. All types of shit.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: You're worried about finding someone that made the decision to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: get their abortion. Now, in terms of abortion surveillance, I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to bring this up. Shout out to SisterSong. They
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: are a reproductive justice rights organization that I was just
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: in Chicago with. Now, the CDC has appointed a new director.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Her name is Erica Schwartz. Her, mind you, black woman.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: She says, Erica Schwartz.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Schwartz, black.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Abortion surveillance is absolutely a critical component of what the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: CDC is currently doing. Now, Dr. Erica Schwartz was just
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: confirmed as a CDC director. She is the first black
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: woman to lead the agency. And she is committed under
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: oath to expanding abortion surveillance across the country. This is
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: not about data. It is about tracking who gets an abortion, when, where,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and under what circumstances. And in states where abortion is
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: already banned, that information can be used to investigate, prosecute,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and criminalize patients and providers. Now, we also know in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: terms of how they're trying to enforce abortion laws. and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: control the autonomy of the decisions making. We also know
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: that people are assuming that abortions are only the thing
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: happening within our community.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Underserved, underprivileged individuals, right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And so pretty much the communities who have always been
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: under surveillance, we can go back to New York stop
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and frisk.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Aside from us automatically being thugs or automatically being in
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the wrong, as far as women now, we are unfortunately
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: under surveillance for our bodies. And clearly, I am anti-policing
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: our bodies and all of these things. However, went further
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: into wanting to broaden this conversation. And we can bring
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: up the other stories that are listed in here. This
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: is something where I'm like, well, what the fuck? Misuse
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: of technology. However, I.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Misuse of agency.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Agency, yes.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: CDC?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: But again, I have to lean into the overarching thing
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that's happening, right?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I have TSA. I have Clear. I open my iPhone
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: with my face.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I don't read all the terms and conditions.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Accept it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I go to a lot of brand events. As you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: walk in, they say, once you enter this premises, we.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Can capture it. It's going to be used how we
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: want to use it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I love true crime. So in watching that, outside of DNA,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways in which people are caught are
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: through surveillance. Recently, black people have been saved Because of
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: body cam footage, because of proof that they are innocent
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: and not guilty. And so when I sit with people
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: to have these conversations, I ask them their thoughts. And A.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: King said he was 50-50. So A.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: King.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: 50-50.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Would love to know. What makes you 50-50 on surveillance?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: What makes you hate it and what makes you love it?
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And why are you not leaning more over? Just because
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I will say, where I stand, big brother us.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: We're already in it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Like, we're already in it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing, like, for the cause of, you know,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: catching criminals and, you know, the robberies. I think it
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: was an incident a few months back in Brooklyn where
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: they were stealing the Amazon packages in front of a
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: building in Flatbush. And the superintendent, you know, saw the
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: perpetrator and, you know, they shot him. They killed him,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you know, and it was captured. And I believe they
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: got caught eventually.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: The perpetrator, the.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: The superintendent got shot.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Got shot.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Because he saw them. He was like, yo, what are
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: you doing? Because it was a thing that was happening.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And they shot him. Okay.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: And he saw it in real time. And he got
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: shot and killed. And I think they caught the suspects
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: or what have you. But through surveillance. Right.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Ring cameras.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Through the cameras. And the reason why I said I'm 50-50,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: surveillance with the intent to monitor people and track their
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: habits and their what they're doing in the day-to-day, I'm
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: not for that. For the idea, I don't even know
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: if body cam falls under that particularly. I don't consider
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: that surveillance.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: You don't consider body cam surveillance?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: No, because I think the reason it was called because
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of, there was a lot of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: police brutality, there was a lot of incidents where we
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: didn't have any, all these cases didn't have any proof.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: It couldn't prove anything because a body cam was supposed
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to mitigate that. So I think that that's a different thing.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: What's the difference between that and when you call customer care,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: when you call a company and they say that this
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: call may be monitored for whatever.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: It's proof of the conversation.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. But they will only go
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: back to that call and monitor it if or when
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: there's an issue, which to me is the same as
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: body cam.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: But, well.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: A ring camera, even if you put it up, you're
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: not checking your ring cam every day. You're only checking it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: if or when something happens. Like the other night there
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: was big booms. I love to go on the fucking
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Ring app. By the way, I don't have the money
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: right now. Y'all know how we had America's Funniest Videos?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It's like a television show.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: The Ring community app? Oh my God.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Niggas be like, But also, it's community.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: If we talk about community, they'd be like, hey, yo.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Where can I go get boxes? Where can I go
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: get wood? I lost my cat.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Have you seen it? I just found this dog. But
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: then when they be on there.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: With the fuck shit?
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Give me an example, because I haven't experienced the fuck shit.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So, fuck shit on the ring cam, right? And now
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: this leads into surveillance. Right?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Because.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Black people are Karens too, and they snitch. And this
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: is where, maybe because we're in Atlanta too, majority of
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the people are black, right?
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Right. All civilians, yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: When I tell you, they put the video, they zoom in, hey,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: this is the person.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And it goes from everywhere. Hey, yo, this person's stealing packages,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: especially during the holidays. That gets a lot.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. It's crazy.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Whose car is this?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Rhea has been parked here for X amount of time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Why is this car parked here this year?
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Someone's going through trash cans. Hey, do you live in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: this area? There's a mysterious person. But it's a mixture
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of people, clearly. But being in Atlanta, we are a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: predominantly black city. And when I tell you, even just
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the way they type it sometimes, I'm like.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what this is. You know what this is.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But I say all that to say there's a level
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: of awareness, of due diligence. of hyperactivity in crime, look
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: at the economy we're currently in, to where I believe
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: that surveillance has more pros than cons. And so when
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you're 50-50 and I have to weigh it, more pros
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: than cons means it's more favorable than un, which is
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: why it's not the same.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: But for me, the caveat is how is it being used?
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: But that's humans.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I like that surveillance is there. How it gets used,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: now we're getting into people and I don't trust. I
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: don't trust people or our government.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So look, I had an incident where a neighborhood that
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: came Corso wasn't leased. You live next door to Chris Brown? No.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: And the shit came, you know, I was getting a
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: little walk on or whatever and it got loose. So
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get away and long story short, I
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: had an injury.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: But As I'm processing this, I went to a neighbor
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: to see if it captured on their ring camera. On
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: their ring camera, right.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: To help you.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Because if you would have shot and killed that dog,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you might have been going to jail.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Also, if the injury was more severe than what it was.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: That could have been supporting me in that situation. There
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: could have been a civil suit.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And because I'm aware that this is... Most homes have this.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I'm asking, like, hey, did this capture, did you capture that?
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: So for me, surveillance is a very specific term, right? Like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I don't have, I don't really have a problem with
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: ring cameras. I have more of a problem with metaglasses
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: than ring cameras, if we're keeping it a buck. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: to me, when I think about surveillance, I'm thinking... What
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: is your problem with those? With metaglasses? Mm-hmm.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Because I don't trust people. It's because he don't carry. Yeah,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: it's like people are doing weird shit with.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: It's the weirdos, but see, it's the people with them.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Sure. I don't mind them.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: As a content creator, just got a pair, think they're dope.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: As someone who has seen all of the different variations
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of them, and to know that there's now equipment sold
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: on Amazon to remove the light to allow everyone knowing
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: that you're even recording, to me it brings out the...
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: predator in people.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Especially as someone like, imagine if you date a guy
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: who wears glasses. There are clear lens frames in meta glasses.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: He could literally fuck you from behind and record it
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't even know.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: What?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: What?
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Mandy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: What? I'm not fucking a nigga with socks on.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: So you won't find it weird that he got his
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: glasses on while he.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I have fucked a nigga in glasses. Sorry you don't
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: fuck niggas in glasses.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: But I do. I mean, yeah, I'm going to say
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: glasses could be... If they're actual glasses.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: You wear glasses.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they could be like a thing.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Bro, maybe he wants to see my ass.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: A quick, easy ass. I'm talking about you breaking down
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the whole scenario, synopsis of the love me.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: You take off everything except the glasses.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: In my 35 years of life, I've been cracked with
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a nigga with glasses. And what I'm saying is, in 2026,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: A little bit more tricky as to whether those fucking
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: glasses have a goddamn camera on them.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: You know they probably do.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Even outside of that, if you're doing it for content creation,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: if you're, let's say you cycle or you do whatever
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: action you do and you want to record your content,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that's not a problem. But people are wearing these glasses
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: just in life, just walking around with this shit on.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And to me, it's weird.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: How do you define what they want to capture or not? Like,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: to be fair, my boyfriend has an aged parent. literally
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: had been talking about he likes to play music, so
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: he can't capture anything on his phone. So I just
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: got him a camera because I'm like, you should start
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: at least getting whatever moments you can with your mom.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: And literally talked about that.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I got him.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: The same thing. What's it called? The DJI? But literally
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: because of that. So who's to say that someone isn't
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: just walking down the street because they want to capture
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the day today?
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: It goes back to the intent.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: But then that's the intent of the person, not the product.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: But that's not content to me. If you're just walking
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: down the street to capture your day, that's not content.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: To me, you're doing a specific act. I've worn, somebody
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: let me wear their meta glasses at the gun range.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm at the range and We're shooting. You get
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: a first-person perspective. It looks like a cool video.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be walking just through Lenox Mall with these
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: shits on. I wouldn't be walking just at a restaurant.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't, but what I'm saying is I follow creators
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't even consider themselves creators. There's a guy named
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: POV Sam. He lives in Texas. He's kind of like Turk.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: He's kind of like Gabriel. Gabriel will be sitting in
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the car eating all the Facebook marketplace. Sorry, I love
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: food content. But POV Sam literally sits in restaurants that
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: have no customers, records. They don't even know. Next day
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: flooded with guests.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Sure, that's content though.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: But you, that's what I'm saying. You can't define what's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: content to someone and what's not. Because if I was
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: sitting in those restaurants at the same time as him,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: he's filming content.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's fine. But to me, all of that shit.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: None of us know till after anything. Apparently you don't
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: know if God exists till after.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: You die. Well, I mean, again, if you're doing a
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: specific activity, okay, fine.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I take it too far?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Let me know when I take it too far.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: But then they would say you gotta believe in the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: word and what it says about the afterlife, what it
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: says about.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I believe in the technology being
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: built for.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: For changes that help solve problems. I don't believe in
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: people and their misuse of it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: But here's the problem, mother. No, no, no.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I believe there's more pro than con.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but see, for me, I don't think there's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: more pro than con.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: You believe there's more con than pro?
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Talk to me.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Because A, people ain't shit. That's the first. They start
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: at the top of the list. People ain't shit. So no,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to... As.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Long as community's built.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, community. Community has nothing to do with meta glasses
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: and cameras.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: We can overcome capitalism.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, but you don't need meta glasses to do none
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: of that shit.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: But this is where the Harry Tubman rule always got
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to be in effect. If you get caught lacking, if
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you out here doing egregious shit, guess what?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Night, night. Bye-bye. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And then continue on.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: This is very violent.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Community. No, not violent.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Remember I said look in this mirror and see if
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: you're one of the ones that Harry would've... I heard you.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: But okay.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing about it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: We're just talking about meta glasses.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Also, but with these things, with meta glasses, like with
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: your ring camera.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: And you're trying to essentially protect your home and it
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: can record a limited angle. And most of that angle
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: for most people is going to be maybe above their door,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: at their front door, wherever they're placing their ring camera.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I don't trust any public service cameras, for lack of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: a better term. whether they are flock or traffic cameras,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: all of this shit is being used and information is
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: being sent to God knows where. Even with the metaglasses,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Ray-Ban or Meta AI has access to that information whenever
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: they want to.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And they just got Oakley's. I got the Kylie edition.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what that shit is doing? Shout out to Kardashian.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: The one time I seen somebody had it, you see
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the light.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Can that be concealed?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. There's now equipment and things
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: being sold to where you can hack it and the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: light isn't showing. So now people aren't aware that you're recording.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: So you could say, I'm not recording, but you are.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Or these could be meta glasses, right?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was looking a little hard.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Now you're going to be looking at it.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Well, no, a meta glass is obvious because there's lenses
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: on both horns.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not going to lie. I've made it a thing.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Going to Hedo, being in Jamaica, it's a nude resort.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I've made an announcement around.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Ayo.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: No meta glasses.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Should even be allowed. Yeah, that should be understood in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: those places.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: There should be some sort of element of.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm surprised, and now I don't know if every
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: strip club is onto it, but I'm sure that strip
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: clubs would say, No metaglasses in here because y'all niggas
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: is weird. Like, you can't trust these people. I don't
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: have a problem with people trying to protect their property,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: but I don't like public surveillance.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, yes, could it help catch criminals
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: and all that shit?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. But to me, I'm like, before you had this shit,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: cops just did cop work. Catch me. I don't like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: speed cameras. Nigga, if I'm speeding, be standing there with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: a speed gun, catch me speeding, and then I pay
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: the ticket.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I love them.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: No, I don't want none of that shit.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: People... Do your job. Do your job.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: For dozens of years, we had do your job without
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: this shit.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Be a law-abiding citizen. Because I say that because when
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I ride with people in their cars, they know the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: lights with the cameras, which make them follow the rules more.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Than if there wasn't cameras. It tells you where the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: cameras are. So there's no reason for you to do
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: wild shit.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: No, but people do wild shit all the time. What
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: are you talking about?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying. It's a deterrent.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad about that. So when I moved to Singapore,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: when I was in Dubai, because I'm a world travel queen,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: when I'm in those countries, they express the amount of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: safety because of not only surveillance, but the punishment for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: certain crimes. Mind you, a crime could be littering.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: $ 1, 000 fine.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: If you were caught throwing a piece of gum, actually,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you can't even do chewing gum. Chewing gum has its
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: own crime.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: You can't bring chewing gum to Singapore. If you were
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: showed littering, you could get a fine.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: You can't eat on public transportation because it causes a mess.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: There's all of these rules that instill enough fear to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: get you acting right, which is why I'm sorry. I'm
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: going to say, yes, I don't have kids. Beat your kids.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it worked for me a little bit.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: But the gentle parenting.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: None of that is true.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think beating your kids sometimes works.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think it does shit. I mean, we talked
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: It helps.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I think it does. I think there's levels of beating, though.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: No, there's levels of punishment. I would say punishment and discipline.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Don't hit your kids.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Discipline your kids.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Discipline your kids the right way. So in Singapore, in
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: certain countries, the discipline scares people enough to act right.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I think that surveillance does essentially that. Because you said
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: you don't believe in public surveillance. Public surveillance is when
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: we're all together. I actually am against private, quote unquote, surveillance. Clearly,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: surveillance shouldn't be in bathrooms. Where do a lot of
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: crimes and things happen? There as well. In Airbnbs. When
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I'm renting hotel rooms, there's certain places that a lot
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: of things happen, but they're considered private. I actually think
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: that cameras should stay away from private places. Or it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: would maybe be more beneficial if there was surveillance there,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: but I get that then we would definitely be in
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Big Brother. But I think that we should have public surveillance.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I think it helps society overall.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I think crime is always gonna happen. I don't think
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: there's no camera that's gonna stop crime.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: And so guess what?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think they should.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Get caught. Niggas go to jail.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: To me, that's what I say. I say do your job.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: If a nigga does crime.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Do police work.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: It's hard to do.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: But that's people. We don't trust the police or the people.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Of course we don't.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I would rather it be surveyed. I went to... Don't
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: judge me, y'all. I recently went with my mom and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: my best friend to the serial killer museum. There was
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: one here in Atlanta. The amount of people they were
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: able to kill because they weren't caught either through science
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: or the fact that people... By the way, It's really sad.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I would say 60% of serial killers were killing sex workers.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: And it's because people don't give a fuck about sex workers.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Back to people, right? But if there were surveillance... Because
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of them got captured in public spaces. They
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: were kidnapped from parks, parking lots, grocery stores. A lot
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: of them were taken... In public places.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Snatched out of a... Surveillance.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, no, I understand... We could have caught him.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: There could have been life saved.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: I understand the general idea.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Hey, y'all let me know if this is really right-leaning
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: or not. I don't know.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. I mean, this is... Wait, wait.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. I don't think so.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Conservative.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: This is conservative wanting surveillance?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I think so because... I don't want to survey abortions.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: I think that the conservative lens says.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: tough on crime, hard on crime, these type of things. Like,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: the people who are anti-flock cameras, I don't think most
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: of them are conservatives. I think most of the people
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: who are anti-flock cameras are people looking at... Now, they
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: should be because conservatives have a deep distrust of the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: government and powers that be, and that's where this information
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: is going, to the powers that be. They're using it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: for God knows what. People just look at it from
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: a lens of, oh, well, it's solving crime. Well, what
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: else is it doing? Who else is it abusing?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Who are more against surveillance? Liberals or conservatives?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I would think liberals because when I see, on my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: algorithm right now, and I've seen a lot of pieces
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: from the AJC that are talking about how many flock
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: cameras are in Dunwoody. That Dunwoody has some of the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: most flock cameras in Metro Atlanta. And people aren't with
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: that shit because people are saying, you're using these slot cameras.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: You're looking at my son in preschool or in daycare.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: You're looking at me and my children walking through the streets.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: All this information is going everywhere.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: That matters. If a school shooting happens, if a nigga
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: walks in with a samurai sword, that matters if you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: get assaulted while you're walking with your child. All that matters.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Mind you, in Atlanta, the car break-ins, the crime here, ridiculous.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: It's out of control.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: So you can't, it's what I said, me and Weezy
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: just had this conversation.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: But people think it's only going to be safety.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: No, in terms of press, right? You can't be happy
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: when you're on Forbes and then mad when you're on
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: TMZ doing bullshit. All press is good press. If you
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: want press, right? But you don't get to dictate how
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: people receive that information. So you can't be pro being
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: pushed out with your brand and then you do something
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: bad and then you feel a way that everyone's talking
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: about you doing something bad. I say that to say
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: on the flip side of surveillance. You can't be anti
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: it when you just don't want to be seen and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: you want to be under the radar. But then as
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: soon as something bad happens, you're hoping for those cameras
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: to be turned on. You're hoping to be able to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: use that footage to save you, to get you some
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: level of justice. You can't have it both ways.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I will deal with the consequences that come with not
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: having the cameras.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: But I don't want.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: So a cop says you lunged at him. He shoots you.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: You live.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Well, again, to me, body camera is not surveillance.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: So a body camera comes on when a police goes
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: to a crime scene or is called somewhere.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: That scene is being surveilled. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: If you get approached. Surveillance is about watching everything all
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: the time. Body cameras are not watching everything all the time.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Body cameras are watching things when a police is in action.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Well, because that's on a person. But what I'm saying
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: is how he went to that neighbor and was like,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: is your ring camera on? Because I just got attacked
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: by this dog. We don't, like you said, we don't
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: get to choose when the attack takes place.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: So cool.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Sure. You're not in a standoff with a police officer,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: but now you're in a standoff with a man who's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: mentally ill in society. Now you're in a standoff with
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: someone who hits and runs. Fuck, you didn't get no insurance,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: you didn't get no information, so now you have to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: rely on that. To me, there's just way too much
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: benefit still for it to help you when you're not
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: in the wrong.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: And if you're in the wrong, you deserve to get got.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: And you should risk any consequence coming your way for
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: breaking the rules. All right.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, if you want to start giving up rights
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: for safety, allegedly, and privacy for.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Nigga, I give it up for convenience. They got my fingerprint,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: my eye scan. They got all that at the airport.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Because I don't.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Want to stand in line at Hartsfield Jets.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Of course they do. And that's a personal decision. Everyone's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: going to make what they're going to do. But I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: don't think there is... So basically, you want to turn
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: this into a minority report. And you think that that's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: just going to be cool. You know what's crazy?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: We're already there and we don't have a say.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: And no one's cool with that, though. When they start
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: predicting crime, when they start saying, oh, well, because there's
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: all these videos now of cop goes to a lady's
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: door and saying, no, you did this.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: You did this.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: You did this. You're under arrest.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: You need to have an.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Alibi for me saying I watched his video cameras and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: it said that you stole this car, that you did this.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: And oh, oh, our bad.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Now, let's be very clear.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: It was the wrong, the AI in the camera said
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: it was the wrong thing. Now you're going somewhere different. No,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: that's all part of the thing.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: That's all part, you can't parse it out. Way different conversation,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: look at you.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: You can't parse it out.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: You were taking it way somewhere else. Huge difference, and
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: we've had many conversations around AI. Huge difference in surveillance
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and actual footage captured to altered AI footage. Completely different arguments.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: I think they're being used all in the same way.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: All of these cameras are.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, watch The Morning Show, season four.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these cameras are being used in conjunction with AI.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: The whole purpose of the public surveillance and the flock
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: cameras is to figure out where the crime is going
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: to happen and what's going on and all that shit.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Again, we're not going to help ourselves from getting into
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: an age of the Jetsons. But just like when we
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: talked about.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: We could if we rejected this shit, but everyone thinks
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be beneficial. But we can't because
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: AI has already entered into the world. We're not taking
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: it back. The can is already open. Period. There's no
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: closing it. But there is a way, the same way
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: that old girl was able to say, no, these are
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: the programs I use. There is no AI in this
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: audio captured of Carmelo Anthony's last moments on this boat.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: We can't see you having both ways. But what I'm
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: saying is.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: That's a program.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: That's not like a.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: No, my point. So let's not compare apples to oranges.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: But we're talking about surveillance and flock cameras and all
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: these things. We're not adding the addition of it. AI
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: is a completely different subject that we've tackled multiple times.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: But we can't conflate the two. We can't conflate, oh,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think body cam footage is surveillance. It's surveying
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: the incident at hand. If we're talking about nonstop surveillance,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day... I do feel like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and even though you're 50-50, you wanted surveillance at the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: moment that you were attacked.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: It would have benefited you.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: You just mentioned about the boat and all the incidents
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: that's been happening.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And there was no surveillance. We wish there was camera
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: footage in the middle of the fucking lake or on
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: an island or on that boat. When there's a plane crash,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: we get a little black box. We even love that.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: We hate, honestly, that there was no surveillance happening with
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Nolan Wells.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: When it goes left... I don't want to hear anything. Well,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: here's the thing.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Because....
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: This is not going to end how people think. Well,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: that's the problem.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: It's not going to end how you think it's going
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: to end, and that's the problem with it. You look
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: at it as just, well, this is for our safety,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: and our safety is the best thing.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: And it's like, sure, okay.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: And when it's not used for safety anymore, when it's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: used to invade your privacy, when it's used to accuse
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: people of things they didn't do, when it's accused in
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: nefarious ways because this is not a nebulous program. It's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: all controlled by people. When it goes left, then we'll
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: have a different conversation. But that's why I stated that.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: my pros and cons. I see a benefit for it
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: because of the times we're in and the foolishness that happens,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: but also not to zoom in on anyone's personal day-to-day
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: movements unless they're under criminal investigation. You mentioned Republican and Democrat,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: who's for whatever. They said that the current shift in
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: bipartisan support... Of them turning against the technology and canceling
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: municipal contracts.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: That's what's going on.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Say that in English.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: In Governor Abbott's- Because you just reading words.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: You know what that means. I am.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I'm reading the shit.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what does that mean?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: There's a movement on both sides of the aisle against
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: the use of flock hammers. Okay. And where there was
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: support in the past, they're now turning against those contracts that- Well,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: when you're using it.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: To chase down a woman who got an abortion- And yet,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: we still don't know the niggas from the Epstein files.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: And these are the early days.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: You think it's going to stop there?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. But let's be very clear, but
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: that's where midterms are coming up. That's the importance of
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: getting the right people in office. That's the importance of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: not keeping these seats red, who we know are for
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the reversal of what we did. Let's bring that shit back.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to what the fucking Supreme Court ruled
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: on fucking 40 years ago and put that shit back
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in the goddamn place. Like, But that's where the people
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: that are in charge matter. The laws and bills that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: are being passed matter.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Right, because you have a fighting chance now to go
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: after your local congressman, city council, whoever that can move
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: the needle. Say, hey, I don't like this. As a community,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: we stand together and we don't like this. I need
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: you to represent these ideas and our goals and initiatives together.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: to get rid of that shit, or to reverse whatever
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: We shall see. We shall see.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, keep all of that shit away from me.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want no parts of flock or any of
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: that other shit.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: It goes back to misuse, right?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Yes. The danger is it will be misused, because niggas-
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: It's people. But it's the same argument as guns. You
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: would say, I don't want everyone to have a gun
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: because I don't know who I can trust, and what's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: going to be what, and who's going to be who,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I can make the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: exact same argument about having all these cameras every single where,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: every single place. Someone is monitoring these cameras. They're not
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: just run by robots and they can use this information
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: in the worst ways possible.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: And I don't trust it.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: You know, in New York, what they do with, I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't seen it down here, but New
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: York with the speed cameras and shit. Niggas got the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: spray that you spray on the license plate.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I just saw there's letters. Well, I just saw there's
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: letters that cause a reflection.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: To make your... Y'all going to jail.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: See what I mean? Surveillance leads y'all to be criminals.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Y'all going to jail. Why y'all sitting here breaking the rules?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Construct them cameras.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Do all of that shit. Break them cameras.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: There's a whole thing right now of people who are...
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: hacking and destroying the flock cameras and i hope they
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: continue i hope they destroy all of them shits like
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: we are.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: On so different sides of this yes i don't think
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: that y'all should be vandalizing government equipment.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Break all of that shit all of it.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I better not come to your motherfucking house and see
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: a lick of a ring a lick of an Alexa,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a lick of a Siri, a lick of nothing in
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: that motherfucking shit.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: The ring camera, I don't have a problem with ring cameras,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: but all the rest of that shit?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Ring camera is surveillance. And, hold on, ring cameras also,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: look it up, ring cameras are also tapped in the
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: local police department.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: All that shit can be hacked.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: It's all electronic.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not hacked. They're in partnership, baby.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure. No, no, no. Not I'm sure.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: You said you have rings.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know, local law enforcement can use
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: anyone's ring footage without permission.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I bet.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Nas sold his shares and got out. Nas made his
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: money with that investment.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, let me get up out of here.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm just letting you know.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: In front of my house.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to sit here and say what
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: you say, Yes, in front of me. You better not
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: ever look at your phone and unlock that iPhone.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: But that's not the point, though. Oh, my God. That
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with anything.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with watching people with the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: ability to stalk abortion people. To stalk your ex-wife because
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: you're fucking heartbroken.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: And you're a loser. Macy's sheets.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with any of that.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: You see, I'm saying Macy's. You will have a Macy's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: ad on your goddamn... This is surveillance right here. Your
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: phone being out right now is surveying our conversation and
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: using it for.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Their own fucking... What's the alternative?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: We all know that.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Nigga, go fucking be in a village with no electricity,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: no TVs, no phones.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: That's not the... Those exist.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: You could be Amish today. What I'm saying is that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: that's not the answer. Dropping out of society is not
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the answer to shit that is... But what I'm saying is.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: You're talking about not liking surveillance and all these things.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: while having a ring camera, while having an iPhone, while
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: being in clear.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, so basically anything can just go. It doesn't matter
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: what they do. It doesn't matter how it's used. Because
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: we have an iPhone, they should be able to put
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: a camera in your toilet so they can look up
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: your asshole when you're taking shit.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Because fuck it. Everything is given out anyway. Who cares?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, there's laws against.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: There shouldn't be.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: There shouldn't be.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: We should be able to surveil everything.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: But it's okay. There's laws against that going on a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: public platform. Do you think I give a fuck if
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: someone has a camera while me shit? Now if it
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: goes out in public, then there's a problem. Who the
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: fuck is someone who wants to fucking watch a turd.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Come out my ass? I think you don't care because
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: you don't think is it possible, but the.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Minute you find out- No, there's laws against revenge porn.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: There's laws against being able to post children or certain nudity. Bro,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to have an anime character made
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: of me. I bought this little fun little outfit with
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: a wig. I said, with this outfit and this wig,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: create me as an anime character. It wouldn't because it
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: would have been considered sexualized. So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: There's still also enough laws that prevent the real issues
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: of what we want. All of the amendments that we have.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: That also is why they're allowed to have drag shows
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: in Texas because of the first amendment.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: So there's nothing wrong with abortion tracking then?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with... I think.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: There's a problem with abortion, like the reversal of Roe v. Wade. Like,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: I've talked about people being able to make the decisions
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: that they want, yes. But also, you should be following laws, rules,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: all the things. Like, I'm not going to lie. If
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: you take your ass to Texas right now, we've talked
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: about the laws.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: If you take your weed because you don't feel like
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: you finna be caught.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, they're going to lock your ass up.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Because you went against whatever rules. Unfortunately, the same way
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I thought of Brittany Griner. Bitch, you looked at the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: laws over there. You took your goddamn vape pen. Here
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you go. The same way, who's a future DJ? Nigga
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: who got stuck in Dubai.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, Esco.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Like, Esco. So to me, we have rules and things,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and if you hate them, move to a different state.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: You need to abide, unfortunately, by the laws. I'm a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: law-abiding citizen, and am. And unfortunately... Are the.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: People who write the laws law-abiding citizens?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Well, that's different.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: They're people, and they're going to violate all of us.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Just wear your full shiesty mask. Niggas are going to
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: be like, oh, well, it was worth it.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, they will go to jail. No, I'm talking about
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: moving around. You're not doing nothing, nobody. You're just flying
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: under the radar.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, burn off your fingertips. Wear glasses and a shiesty mask.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Wear your hoodie. Wear all black so that you're not
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: seen doing the non-criminal things that you're doing.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear y'all thoughts.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: We're going to show up in November. Niggas are going
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: to give up everything in the world just to be safe.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: And nobody's going to be safe.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: None of us is safe. We live in fucking Georgia.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: No one's going to be safe. Anywhere.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: We're not safe in our cars.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: We're not safe in schools.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: We're not safe in churches anymore. Niggas is going in
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: there shooting shit up. We're not safe anywhere.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: My thing is, the people that are doing wrong, I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: want them caught expeditiously.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Do cop work. Catch them.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, and then there's all these black people. Not you,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: a black cop. Black cops get shamed into being black cops,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: but that's a whole nother topic. We're going to get
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: into this.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Fuck all the police. I don't care what color you are.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: Fuck them all.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, that's my brother, so I'm glad you said fuck
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: my brother.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Damn, he said fuck my cousin.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: My brother's a cop.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I got detectives in my shit.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: All types of shit. How do we make change without
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: being inside? That's why Jay-Z is doing all the work,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: and we love that he's at those tables now, right?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Who's we? Look at the fucking hypocrisy.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: Who's we?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I can't take this anymore.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, nope, nope, we're going.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: He come from that. Episode is over.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Episode is over.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Episode is over. We're going to save this for another
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: goddamn time. We didn't get to any of the topics.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Not a single one.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: And instead of redoing the intro.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: You know why? Because we care about you. And we
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: care about us. And we care that we care about
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Instead of redoing the intro, y'all, next week, we're going
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: to have more of these conversations. Hopefully, with a guest
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: joining us, we'll be bringing some people to join in
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: on these conversations coming up in the second half of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: the year.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a good time.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a good time. I might need
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: a break from y'all niggas.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: We don't need flat cameras because niggas are recording themselves
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: going and putting on stories.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Going straight to black.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: And crimes.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: You see all the drill niggas. Niggas selling themselves.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Straight to Vlad.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Niggas selling themselves.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Straight to a YouTube video.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Niggas can't wait to stitch on themselves. Shout out to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: the new tag team duo. Shout out to L.A. Wilson.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: The unprecedented. That one, I didn't see that one.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: The Cap Radar Podcast.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: The Rat Radar Podcast.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: We're not going to do this.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Come on, man. Shout out to L.A.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: We're not going to do this.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Listen, everybody got bills.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Shout out to L.A.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Listen, you know how many niggas signed up for ice
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: with them bonuses?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: He was the first YN.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: He was the first YN.
• 1:23:18
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