Latest / Financial Survival Network / Your Job Isn’t Going to China — John Rubino #5889
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- 0:00The labor market in general seems to be weakening. The what was it openings?
- 0:05Job openings just got cut by like one point five million, which was
- 0:10a big number in the context of job openings, and that that was a
- 0:14restatement of the past few months plus the latest month's number. So it wasn't
- 0:19you know, the market wasn't as strong as it seemed, and the current
- 0:22numbers are pretty weak too. You were listening to carry Letts's Financial Survival Network,
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- 0:58We're at the third to last day or second to last day of the
- 1:02months. We got John Rabino on with us. John, labor market data
- 1:07is mixed. Are we adding jobs? Are we taking jobs away? Or
- 1:11they we one things for sure this time. We know the jobs aren't going
- 1:15to China, right Hey, Carry No, it doesn't look like that,
- 1:19but There is a lot of stuff going on out there that are kind of
- 1:23cross currenty in the economy, and the label market is a big example of
- 1:26that, because just in the last few months, unions have been striking or
- 1:34threatening to strike and getting some serious settlements to to the big airlines, United
- 1:38and American in the US both gave their pilot unions double digit raises for the
- 1:45next four years, so over ten percent a year for forty straight years.
- 1:49Yeah, yeah, yeah, and has double digit wage inflation right there,
- 1:57And the FED knows. The FED doesn't see rising stock wanted real estate prices
- 2:02as inflation. It ignores those, but when wages go up, it takes
- 2:07that very seriously. So make makeup of that what you will about the the
- 2:12elites or whatever. But the unions are now suddenly finding themselves with some power
- 2:19and they've got a lot of ground to make up. So they're they're threatening
- 2:22to strike or they are striking. And who else was it it was?
- 2:25Was it FedEx or Ups one of those guys just gave their union employees big
- 2:34raises and and so that's spreading across the country. So we've got wage inflation
- 2:38coming from the unionized sectors of the economy. At the same time, the
- 2:45labor market in general seems to be weakening. The what was it openings,
- 2:50Job openings just got cut by like one point five million, which was a
- 2:54big number in the context of job openings, and that was that was restay
- 3:00of the past few months plus the latest month's number, So it wasn't you
- 3:02know, the market wasn't as strong as it seemed, And the current numbers
- 3:07are pretty weak too. And so home sales at the same time, which
- 3:13is that that's almost up there with employment as far as a sector that affects
- 3:20the overall strength of the economy. Home sales are frozen. They got revised
- 3:23down dramatically over the past few months, and currently they're they're way down year
- 3:29over year, which makes sense, right because mortgage rates have spiked, which
- 3:34effectively doubles the monthly cost of a house if the house price doesn't come down,
- 3:38and so far prices haven't come down, so only cash buyers are still
- 3:45robust in this market, like the people flying in from out of the country
- 3:49to Florida unseen. Yeah, see see that that is still a strong part
- 3:55of the market. But in other places where people actually have to take out
- 3:59more just forget it. You know, you really can't do it unless you're
- 4:02going to buy half the house that you can afford, which means you're going
- 4:06to settle for something that Nobody buys half the house they can afford, because
- 4:11if they can afford more house, they tend to get excited and buy the
- 4:15most house they can afford, because that's how the shopping process works. So
- 4:19if houses aren't selling that these people can't take out the mortgage to buy them,
- 4:25that's going to slow the economy down dramatically too. So you know,
- 4:30most signs point towards the slowing economy, but in certain sectors, wages are
- 4:35going up dramatically. Now the fit is liable to interpret this as wage inflation
- 4:41becoming a problem, and they're liable to go higher for longer with interest rates,
- 4:46which is what your own pile just said in his last speech. He
- 4:48surprised the market by implying that rates we're going to go higher and stay there
- 4:54longer than the markets were expecting. So you knows, But it doesn't look
- 5:01like we're going to get fed easing anytime soon, and I think it's gonna
- 5:05happen, is there and there has to be that big crisis out there,
- 5:08some part of the secret of the market has to break, and then the
- 5:12FED will go back to bailing everybody inside out. Then it'll happen quickly.
- 5:15Remember how quickly they bailed out the banking sector when a Silicon Valley bank and
- 5:20they're still bailing it out. They're going, yeah, but they didn't waste
- 5:24any time. Within a week, they were doing things that added liquided each
- 5:29of the market. So let's something, let's something bigger. They messed up
- 5:35there because what happened there was that Jenny ill And drew the line in the
- 5:42line in the sand, We're not going to bail out banks. This time
- 5:46is different. And then Silicon Valley Bank failed, and you know, they
- 5:51took like a week or two to bail it out to find a quote unquote
- 5:57suitor for it, and then three other banks failed, and then all of
- 6:00a sudden they said, no, no, just kidding. All deposits are
- 6:04backstopped though, we're not going to let you. We're not going to let
- 6:08you lose your deposits. We're not going to have bail ins regardless what Don
- 6:12Frank said. And that was that. So in Florida, sales are down
- 6:16like a third, but prices are up because inventories are still incredibly short.
- 6:23I mean, that's the thing. It's a tale of several markets. But
- 6:28in popular places, even though the sales are down, the inventory still down.
- 6:34So what that will amount to, I don't know. But people are
- 6:39still fleeing to these key states like Texas, like Tennessee, Georgia, the
- 6:46Carolinas, you know, basically the southeast where low taxes more than makeup for
- 6:53increased mortgage rates. We'll see. The migration thing is kind of a walk
- 7:00though, because if you're in California and you want to move to Texas,
- 7:02you kind of have to sell your California house. And if you don't have
- 7:06to sell your calahorc for in your house, you're in the top one percent,
- 7:10then we're not talking about you. You know, ninety nine percent of
- 7:13the country pretty much has to sell one house to move into another. So
- 7:16you get a sail over here and a purchase over there, and it doesn't
- 7:20affect the macro numbers all that much. But the question is for housing,
- 7:25what is going to make inventory spike and cause prices to crash? And I
- 7:31think it's going to be two things. One is is baby boomer demographics.
- 7:36You know, we're getting older, and so our boomers have not sold their
- 7:43McMansions. But the idea was always that there was going to be a demographic
- 7:46real estate crash because the richest, biggest generation in American history had loaded up
- 7:51on real estate and bought too much house during previous credit bubbles, and they
- 8:00they can't go up and down the stairs in the three story house anymore,
- 8:03and it's gonna keep Who's going to keep four thousand square feet clean? You
- 8:07know, It's just something that a seventy five year old doesn't want to deal
- 8:09it. But a growing number of boomers are heading into that age range and
- 8:15so they kind of have to start lightening up. They got a downsize,
- 8:18So that's going to happen. And the question is will something happen to spook
- 8:22boomers into doing it all at once? So will it be more graduating the
- 8:26other thing? It will go ahead. You have all I was just gonna
- 8:30say, don't forget. Many of you out there have three percent mortgages and
- 8:35you want to downsize, and assuming you don't buy the house for cash,
- 8:41you're going to get a mortgage. You're going to get a seven percent mortgage,
- 8:43which means your mortgage will be double dollar for dollars. So you buy
- 8:48half the house and your payment stays the same. So why move. That's
- 8:54why everybody's frozen in their houses houses right now, because moving is an incredible
- 9:00expensive process. You know, you're leaving a cheap money place going to an
- 9:03expensive money place, and yet at some point it's going to have to happen,
- 9:09just because all those stairs, luckily in its places. I don't have
- 9:15anything. Yeah, one of the reasons I bought it because it's on one
- 9:18level. But I totally know what you're saying, and who wants to maintenance
- 9:22the upkeep? You know, you own a house, you get to be
- 9:26real good friends with your handyman, your plumber, your electrician, and there's
- 9:31always stuff breaking on it, you know, always, and there's always stuff
- 9:35to do. You know. My wife and I had a six thousand square
- 9:39foot house in Idaho and that was insane. We'd become empty mesteroms and there
- 9:46were there were just the two of us in the you know, in this
- 9:48big house where empty rooms get dusty. Even if you don't do anything in
- 9:50there, you'll go away for a weekend, it's covered in dust. So
- 9:54the maintenance is insane, and so we did the downsizing thing and toilets go
- 10:01bad. Then they start running and boss, it's drip even though no one's
- 10:05using it. Well, if you had, if you have five bathrooms something,
- 10:09yeah, like you said, something is always dripping. We had we
- 10:13had this. Okay, wait, I'm not gonna get too far afield here,
- 10:16but we had a plumber who I was only partially kidding. I offered
- 10:20him our spare bedroom. I told him he could move in if he wanted
- 10:22to be, because he's at our household often and not and he saves and
- 10:26saves my butt every time I being waked. But but anyhow, Yeah,
- 10:30see, that's that's the situation that boomers are in now, especially with multi
- 10:33story houses of course, because it really is like if you've got a hip
- 10:37that's cooling and you need to get a replaced, but you're trying to put
- 10:41off the replacement, which is probably seventy percent of sixty five year olds right
- 10:46now. If you don't you don't want to sleep on the third floor,
- 10:50have all your you know, your TV room in the walkout basement, and
- 10:54then have the kitchen on the first place. It's just it's a crazy life,
- 10:58very painful to any out. That's that's one thing. The other thing
- 11:03is Airbnb now suddenly actual Yeah yeah, well yeah, because let's say you've
- 11:07got seventeen properties, which is not an unusual number for these airbnb entrepreneurs.
- 11:15You've got a mail, yeah, you have major carrying costs, and the
- 11:20minute your revenue dips, you have to start lightning up on inventory. And
- 11:26you know, hospitality is usually a victim of a slowing economy. I fewer
- 11:31people are in hotels, fewer people can afford are and be especially air Andbnb
- 11:35turned out not to be a good deal anyhow. It's got all those hidden
- 11:37fees and stuff, and so it's not even really that popular anymore compared to
- 11:46hotels, which are at least clean and simple and understandable. So there's going
- 11:50to be a del uge of inventory out of airbnbs as soon as the economy
- 11:56has any kind of a little hiccup, and that deluge is gonna just pour
- 12:01onto the market because there's so many airbnb units. You know what I think
- 12:05that I don't have the stat correct or perfect, but it's it's something like
- 12:11the inventory of houses that people don't actually that the owners don't actually live in.
- 12:18It is ten or twenty times the inventory currently for sale right now,
- 12:24so they you know, Airbnb trouble could just swamp the existing market for homes
- 12:31for pre months, you know, and that could happen. So in twenty
- 12:37twenty one, the US had an average of two and a quarter million active
- 12:41listings. So I think that's two and a quarter million units. Bryant's had
- 12:46one point to China at one point one five. And Okay, that we've
- 12:52actually got we actually have statistics on all this stuff. Job well, this
- 12:58is nights. That's not going to do us any good. Okay, it
- 13:03does get you somewhere when you compare that with inventory of homes for sale and
- 13:07throw in houses that have been bought as investments, just places to poe under
- 13:11cash, you know, because the average rich person owns three or four properties.
- 13:16Now. Yeah, Nashville is a city where they had like thousands of
- 13:22units built just to be Airbnb's. They're built specific for that purpose, you
- 13:28know, three four story you know, buildings with units in them. And
- 13:35you don't go all out on the kitchens. You just make it. You
- 13:37make the place look nice and clean. You don't go all out on anything
- 13:41on it, and you know, you make it conducive to people who are
- 13:46short stay vacation type tenants, and that isn't necessarily what a renter wants when
- 13:56it was built, you specific, So it's going to be interesting. But
- 13:58talk about real estate problems and bubbles and collapses. You know, China,
- 14:05supposedly there's sixty four million units that are empty in the entire country, and
- 14:13you know, it is the largest asset class in the world, Chinese real
- 14:16estate. Fortunately only Chinese own it, and most of its substandard construction,
- 14:24not built to spec And you know, in China, it's like in the
- 14:30United States, you don't start paying your mortgage till you close on your house.
- 14:33In China, you pay the mortgage when you sign on the dotted line,
- 14:39and it could be years before you even get that house or that apartment.
- 14:43And that's what's led to a mass of mass defaults, you know,
- 14:50strategic defaults. And then in China, your foreclosure might happen, but your
- 14:56debt never goes away, and it's in your social cre its score. And
- 15:01I guess, I guess you could probably move to Siberia and be happier than
- 15:05staying in Chida once you got the reputation as a deadbeat, you know.
- 15:09So it's an untenable situation that's made worse by the system, by the corruption,
- 15:18and by malinvestment because they didn't need sixty four million units to stay empty.
- 15:24John, You know. Yeah, China blew itself the biggest real estate
- 15:28bubble and human history, and it's bursting and they're trying to figure out what
- 15:33to do about it. They're they're easing in various ways, they're cutting interest
- 15:37rates and running up bigger deficits. But at the same time, the U
- 15:41one is falling. So during that box that we've been talking about for the
- 15:46fettle these years, when the currency is falling, but you still have to
- 15:50stimulate the economy because you've got some sectors blowing up. But the more you
- 15:56stimulate the zombie sectors, the more the currency drops, which is inflationary.
- 16:03So you got this this death spirer potential in China right now. We don't
- 16:07know how it's going to play out exactly, but they're they're in the early
- 16:11stages of something like that, so it's and it's not clear they understand how
- 16:17to fix any of this either. Because remember ask guys are. You know
- 16:19it's a communist dictatorship. Then they don't really get markets. Yeah, they
- 16:25get you can you can dictate to the banks to lend to housing. You
- 16:30know, they know markets work from that point of view, but they don't
- 16:33really know how market's clear via the price mechanism and through bankruptcy and things like
- 16:40that. And then I don't think they like the idea to live they hear
- 16:42it. Listen to this. You're gonna love this because human nature being human
- 16:47nature, government tries to stop you from doing things. As long as they
- 16:52don't throw you in jail, you don't. You just figure out ways around
- 16:56it and deal with the fallout later. So in China, if you bought
- 17:00a place for like half a million, you on, and the market price
- 17:06is two hundred and fifty thousand, you on, they won't let you sell
- 17:10it for that. Okay, you're not allowed to sell it as for a
- 17:14loss because that's going to disrupt the market. So you know what these smart
- 17:18people do, John, You're gonna love this. And I saw this on
- 17:22China Fact chasers. These guys speak Mandarin, they're fluent, they know what's
- 17:27going on there. They have sources all over. They will say all right,
- 17:33i'll sell it to you for half a million, or i'll buy it
- 17:36for half a million, but you've got to give me two hundred fifty thousand
- 17:40back two hundred fifty thousand you on back in gold. So it appears that
- 17:47the prices are staying higher, but under the table they're paying off the buyer
- 17:55in gold to reduce the price. But the stated price of the unit at
- 18:00the stated sale price stays up there and everybody's happy. And this is the
- 18:04problem with price controls and and really even more corrupt than our central government.
- 18:14Yeah that end is that great. Yeah, that's but you know, and
- 18:18in the end, you still did sell your house for half what you paid
- 18:22for it. Yeah, if I'm understanding that process. So, so losses
- 18:26are still getting taken, people are being impolyetish, and that has to play
- 18:32out somewhere, somewhere. Those losses have to be booked, and at some
- 18:37point somebody goes bankrupt. And that's what China is facing right now, that
- 18:41there's really no way out of a credit bubble except to take the losses.
- 18:47You know, you can't you can't move them around forever, and you can't
- 18:49paper them over forever, and China is going to find that out, So
- 18:52it's not clear how to solve China's got a lot of problems right now.
- 18:56They've got big demographications too. The China Policy or one child policy for all
- 19:02those years left them with a shortage of women, so they don't have households
- 19:07warming. They've got a lot of very lonely guys with no prospects forever having
- 19:11a family or anything. And that's economically a big problem too, because you
- 19:17don't have very you don't have a lot of babies being born in that kind
- 19:21of situation, so their population is actually shrinking. And it's not clear how
- 19:29a capitalist economy survives, especially a financialized capitalist economy where there's a lot of
- 19:36debt, survives a shrinking population because you've already got all these retirees that have
- 19:41to be taken care of. But if there aren't enough workers to do that,
- 19:45there's not enough tax revenue coming in, the government then has to make
- 19:51good on those promises by printing money, which destroys the currency and so on.
- 19:55So China has multiple problems that all lead to a gigantic, crazy crisis.
- 20:00We'll just have to see about the timing, but I think the yuan
- 20:03isn't trouble the mother of all, because they're cutting their rates and the yuan
- 20:11is basically disintegrating. So I want to revisit a topic that I know is
- 20:17on both of our list for today, and that is the bricks countries.
- 20:22Now everybody's saying the bricks, well, they want to get rid of the
- 20:26dollar. All right, Well that's foregone conclusion. It's going to happen at
- 20:30some point. I don't particularly think it's this point. But China's own currency
- 20:34is on the brink of crisis. The country is having a meltdown the equivalent
- 20:41of what the United States had in nineteen twenty nine, only much worse because
- 20:45they've got about fifteen times or about eight times more people than the US had.
- 20:52The US had like under one hundred million people back then, and the
- 20:56you know. So, so China has to find a way out of their
- 21:00own currency crisis. That is inevitable and that is going And the more the
- 21:07yuan goes into crisis, the better it is for the dollar on a relative
- 21:11basis in the other world's currencies that may hold value, like the euro and
- 21:18even the Canadian dollar, the Australian dollar. So they need a way out,
- 21:22and I think the bricks concept is as much a way out for these
- 21:27countries to flee their own failing currencies as it is for them to stick it
- 21:33to the US. Just my theory. I could be wrong, but I
- 21:38personally have celebrated the death of the dollar many times and have been totally off
- 21:45the mark. Yeah, okay, several things about that. The big fiat
- 21:49currencies like the dollar and the yen and the euro are all losing value.
- 21:56You know, we had we had a ten percent inflation shilly in twenty twenty
- 22:00two and it hasn't gone back down to two percent yet. So they're losing
- 22:06value and they will continue to lose value. That's a that's a that's a
- 22:08given separation. Yeah, it's a given, and it's separate off from the
- 22:11bricks. But yeah, it's not clear how the bricks could well, I
- 22:15mean, they couldn't go completely to another shared currency. They couldn't do a
- 22:19Euro kind of common currency market at all because their currencies are too unstable.
- 22:26You know. That would be like a bunch of Italy is trying to form
- 22:30a currency unit and lookout of a jourman to anchor some of the whole,
- 22:34the summit is greater than the whole, a little synergistic thing. Yeah,
- 22:40they think they can pull off, right, Well, what Jim Rickards had
- 22:42an interesting take on this, and he said that they wouldn't get rid of
- 22:47their own national currencies, but what they would do is create a shared trading
- 22:52currency for them to trade back and forth with each other. So so Russia
- 22:56doesn't have to take rootpies, which it can, you is, for much
- 23:00of anything in return for its oil. It would take that gold backed common
- 23:04currency. And you know, these guys have been accumulating gold for quite a
- 23:08while, so it's possible that at the right price, you know, gold
- 23:14would have to be revalued upward, but maybe not so much that it becomes
- 23:19debilitating. And they back their shared currency with gold, and they just trade
- 23:26with each other in something that represents a certain weight of gold, and so
- 23:32their their currencies can do what they do their national currencies, but they've still
- 23:37got this trading currency which is rock solid. And that's I mean, that
- 23:42would be technically pretty tricky too, but it's something that if it could be
- 23:47pulled off, would make a ton of sense, because that's that's a great
- 23:51currency to have or bilateral trade because you always know what it's worth. You
- 23:56know, the dollar price of gold exists out there twenty four seven, so
- 24:00you always basically have a dollar cross rate for your currency. So in theory,
- 24:07that could be done, and that would explain their aggressive accumulation of gold,
- 24:15or would it would give down a reason to rationalize their accumulation of gold.
- 24:21So we'll city. I don't know. I think they're a long away
- 24:23from anything like that. You know, the problem is like nobody's going to
- 24:29trust. Hey, look, our banks are in trouble, but so far
- 24:32the FED has back stopped them. And you know, we're not going to
- 24:37see any bank runs. We'll see a currency collapse before we see a bank
- 24:41run. John, you agree with that, well, I see bankrupt leading
- 24:45to a currency collapsed. Yeah, cried. Could well play out for sure.
- 24:51In China, the banks have already collapsed, but it's not it's not
- 24:56like publicized, like there are a bunch of banks that have collapsed and the
- 25:02people try to get their money out and they say, ah, later,
- 25:07you know, don't worry about it. Your money is safe, Your money
- 25:11is safe. Don't worry about a thing, right, But the reality is
- 25:15that they've got daily currency withdrawal restrictions in their banks in place, and I'm
- 25:23going to toot my own horn here for a change. I said years ago.
- 25:29The reason HAF the reason they were doing the Belt and Road initiative and
- 25:33all of these projects outside of China that were money losers. They were doing
- 25:40it to get money out of the country. It was flight capital disguised as
- 25:45investment capital, supposedly achieving the PPC's goals of you know, investing outside the
- 25:56country and building influence. But in reality, we're laundering money out of the
- 26:00country and putting it into money losing projects. Because of the projects making money,
- 26:07then you got to bring it back to China. But if it's losing
- 26:10money and nobody really knows the scope of the losses, then you've got to
- 26:12keep feeding it because the Chinese don't want the project to collapse because then there's
- 26:18a loss of face. So they've used this to literally launder trillions of dollars
- 26:23out of the PRC. This is what's happened, man, You know,
- 26:27I know it. You can see it now. It's as clear as day
- 26:30now that they're in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, that wasn't an actual capitalist
- 26:37country, not that not that we are. You know, when I saw
- 26:41some of the place and there's saying America's better, you know, we're I
- 26:45think not at all. Yeah, you know the elites in the US in
- 26:51the million dollars stash all over the place. Did you catch the article like
- 26:55thirteen thousand, five hundred the wealthiest Chinese have fled the country? Now I
- 27:00didn't see that with that, Hey, that that's why Jancouver has the most
- 27:04expensive real estate yea Vancouver. Yeah, yeah, And like they just bust
- 27:14in this woman who is the head of the largest Chinese immigration company that helped
- 27:21people get out of the country, and she didn't do anything wrong. They
- 27:25just busted her for whatever reason they busted her. Right, Yeah, I
- 27:30didn't see any of that, but I totally believe that that's the case.
- 27:34You know. See, that's another reason why you can't have a competing reserve
- 27:38currency with the dollar. When your country has capital controls in place, it
- 27:45be free for Yeah. Yeah, you have to be able to move that
- 27:48money around with nobody putting you a jail. Where So Russia and China are
- 27:52not ready for that yet. No, that's not to say they won't be.
- 27:56Uh. I think there's going to be a major house cleaning in China
- 28:00and Russia too for that matter. But the house cleaning is going to take
- 28:03place in China first. There is a I want to call it a theory,
- 28:11but a belief, maybe a superstition widely held in China that every dynasty,
- 28:18it's not necessarily a superstition, but a belief that every dynasty ends with
- 28:25massive flooding. And then the regime is faced with its own inability to deal
- 28:32with that flooding, and then they get swept out. And that is potentially
- 28:37where the PRC, the PPC, whatever is, People's Party whatever, Communist
- 28:44Party CPT been calling it the wrong thing, Chinese Communist Party. That's potentially
- 28:52CCP. That's potentially where we're at right now. And that combined with with
- 29:00what's happening in Russia. You know, I don't know whether Ukraine's winning or
- 29:04losing. If you watch their propaganda, they're about to drive a wooden stake
- 29:08through Putin's heart or what the space where a normal person would have a heart.
- 29:14Right, But sometimes in this world you win by not losing, right,
- 29:22and the fact that they haven't lost yet they might very well lose.
- 29:25I think it's probable they will, but the fact that they have it now
- 29:29for almost two years makes them the winner here, right. I think we're
- 29:33in for a massive cataclysm around the world. John, Can you think,
- 29:38can you name one country for me where they like their government? Well,
- 29:45no, when you when you start borrowing insane amounts of money, the government
- 29:52loses the trust of the people. And that's where we are now. That
- 29:53the whole trustism thing where yeah, it's global, nobody trusts their government because
- 29:59they're government is broke obviously, I mean Switzerland's not broke, and and actually
- 30:04Russia is not broke. They didn't accumulate too much debt and they have a
- 30:08lot of gold and oils. So but but you know, the Russia Ukraine
- 30:14thing, Russia wins if Ukraine is neutralized and NATO does not go any further.
- 30:19And I think we're close to that. At what price? At what
- 30:22price? You know, quarter of a million casualties, that's not a win.
- 30:27And the you know, wards are inflationary in and of themselves, So
- 30:33inflation is going to pick up because of these wars. In every area where
- 30:38there's a ward, there's inflation. Oh yeah, absolutely. But if global
- 30:44inflation pushes up the price of oil and gold and the other stuff. Russia
- 30:48has river They're a resourced economy, so they actually benefit partially from the IF.
- 30:55But I mean they're they're thinking national See this is a this is an
- 30:57existential thing for Russia. They can out NATO on their border. It's existential
- 31:04now because I think the West has perceived I think it's much like World War
- 31:10One. The West has perceived Russia as a declining empire, and World War
- 31:15One was about carving up pieces of declining empires. The Austro Hungarian Empire,
- 31:22which was like this accidental agglomeration of countries that Austria Hungary never really set out
- 31:29to do. They just kind of it all fell in their lap. And
- 31:32then the Ottoman Turk Empire, and it was all about chopping that up for
- 31:37resources. And now the intent of this war has always been, I realize
- 31:42this recently, to chop up the Russian Empire for resources because it holds some
- 31:49of the most you know, treasured and highest grade resources that haven't been developed
- 31:57in any any country in the world, and they want to chop it up.
- 32:02And China wants their piece too, They want Siberia so they can get
- 32:07the resources in Siberia and get rid of a bunch of people. They've been
- 32:12colonizing or attempting to colonize the Russian the pyto Russian border for like forty years,
- 32:17and the Russians have resisted it. But I wonder, I wonder what's
- 32:22happening there now. Nobody has reported upon it. Well, the difference between
- 32:27today and World War One is that we're talking about car Yeah, we're carving
- 32:31up nuclear or powers that that. I mean, if you've got hypersonic nuclear
- 32:37tipped missiles, nobody's gonna carve you up to One of those missiles can take
- 32:45out an entire aircraft carrier group. It wore a major city. I mean,
- 32:50Seattle could be vaporized in literally twenty minutes. Yeah, make the mission
- 32:54right this minute. So then that's yeah, so if the you know,
- 33:00I wouldn't put anything past the psychopaths running the US government. Yeah, I'd
- 33:05actually think they're gonna occupy and carbuk Russians. But they're not, because that's
- 33:12that's an existential threat to Russia obviously by definition, and they've got nukes.
- 33:16So yeah, hey, so don't don't do that. In neo cons Please
- 33:21don't try anything stupid you that we're dealing with though. You know, you
- 33:24know what, like we say, John, what do we learn from history?
- 33:30The one thing we learned from history is we'd all learn from history.
- 33:32I mean, you know, if if Turkey had a nuke or Austria had
- 33:37a nuke in World War One, the result would have been a lot different,
- 33:42right, Oh my god. In World War One, they and they
- 33:45totally would have used those weapons too, because they were you know, they
- 33:49were morons. Yeah, and and they were all existantially threatened. Everybody was
- 33:53ext existentially threatened back downd. So yeah, that could that could have easily
- 33:59turned into a new your war, and so could this. So I think
- 34:02I think that will happens. The lesson is don't don't put morons in charge
- 34:08of your country, you know, that's the Yeah, And you know,
- 34:13war should definitely, definitely definitely be a last resort, not you know,
- 34:22they say war is what happens when it's just a way of resolving disputes when
- 34:29politics can't, or something to that effect. You know, uh, I
- 34:35think it's something like diplomacy is war by another name or something? Yeah,
- 34:38yeah, right, yeah, when war is a form of diplomacy, right,
- 34:44whatever, it's a it's a really interesting situation. Hey, we're so
- 34:49lucky here in the United States are now, Uh we could sit back in
- 34:53our chairs on our zoom calls and pontificate it's not real to us, But
- 35:00that's what's happening. There's no other reason to go after Russia other than to
- 35:06plunder it, and we kind of did that after communism fell and Yeltson came
- 35:12in and we kind of pushed through all these oligarchs. But then you know,
- 35:16Yeltson got wise and he let Putin come in, and Putin replaced our
- 35:22oligarchs with his oligarchs. And hey, by no means do we support this
- 35:28man. I think he's a stone cold killer who's capable of anything. But
- 35:35I think big mistake initiating this war, even though he probably was pushed into
- 35:40it. Hey, well that is it for today. We really ran along
- 35:45there, But that's okay. Make sure you go to John's substack Rabino substack
- 35:51dot com our site Financial Survival Network dot com. John. We will will
- 35:57touch base in a couple of weeks. Thanks Jaredsia, Thanks for listening to
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