Latest / Brian Thomas / Daniel Davis Deep Dive -- 11/25/25
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- 0:01Speaker 1: A thirty six iif you I have caresee the talk station. Yes,
- 0:06Speaker 1: you can have technical difficulties on the fifty about carssee
- 0:08Speaker 1: morning show. Unfortunately, unlike War, no one dies as a
- 0:11Speaker 1: consequence of technical difficults on the morning show. We have
- 0:14Speaker 1: them on the telephone. Daniel Davis, retired lieutenant colonel with
- 0:16Speaker 1: Daniel Davis Deep Dive every Tuesday at this time, well
- 0:20Speaker 1: actually a little earlier on a normal Tuesday, Daniel Davis,
- 0:23Speaker 1: can you hear me, sir?
- 0:24Speaker 2: I can't hear you. Gradmar to work this out and
- 0:27Speaker 2: no one died. So that's a positive thing.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Amen, my friend. That's one of the joys of being
- 0:32Speaker 1: a morning show host. You don't have to worry about people dying.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Now you might get attacked for your opinions, but that's okay.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I can take that all right. Dealer's choice, actually retired
- 0:41Speaker 1: lieutenant colonel's choice. Do you want to start with the
- 0:44Speaker 1: breakdown in the various Ukraine Russian? I don't know what.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Do you want to call them? Multipoint proposals? We've got
- 0:52Speaker 1: a nineteen point, we got a twenty eight point or something.
- 0:55Speaker 1: So far we have no agreement, or alternatively, do you
- 0:57Speaker 1: want to start with the varied response is to the
- 1:01Speaker 1: Hamas and his Bala situation with Israel, Sir, you pick
- 1:06Speaker 1: your favorite, definite.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go with the Russia situation, since that's
- 1:10Speaker 2: the weirdest one, I guess.
- 1:12Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, lately, the Kremlin reject Europe's counterproposal. We
- 1:16Speaker 1: had this twenty eight point document the Trump administration unveiled
- 1:19Speaker 1: last week, which many were saying that, you know, was
- 1:22Speaker 1: was a gift to Russia, and then the counterproposal from
- 1:25Speaker 1: the Europe I think it was like a nineteen point plan,
- 1:28Speaker 1: which Kremlin just rejected that, so it would start where
- 1:32Speaker 1: we usually end serve, but it doesn't sound like we've
- 1:34Speaker 1: gotten anywhere. What's your take on all this, Daniel Davis?
- 1:38Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just more of the bizarre. Uh,
- 1:43Speaker 2: just confused and just dysfunctional. I mean, there's no there's
- 1:47Speaker 2: no better way to put it, more accurate way to
- 1:49Speaker 2: put it. This whole situation, because when the first information
- 1:54Speaker 2: was leaked out, if there was a twenty eight point proposal,
- 1:58Speaker 2: it was apparently between Steve whit Off and a guy
- 2:00Speaker 2: named Carell Dimitriov on the Russian side, and the Russian
- 2:04Speaker 2: side said, well, after it was leaked. Well, you know,
- 2:07Speaker 2: it doesn't address a lot of our issues, but it
- 2:09Speaker 2: does address some issues, so it's a good start point.
- 2:12Speaker 2: That's something that we can work with here, et cetera.
- 2:14Speaker 2: But the minute that this thing hit the airwaves and
- 2:16Speaker 2: the people in the West started realizing and the Kiev
- 2:19Speaker 2: started realizing that there was something a discussion going on
- 2:22Speaker 2: between the US and Russia, people just went crazy. And
- 2:25Speaker 2: first of all, over the weekend there was a lot
- 2:28Speaker 2: of information out among a lot of the elites in
- 2:31Speaker 2: the West that this was actually a Russian proposal that
- 2:35Speaker 2: they just foist it onto the Trump administration, and this
- 2:38Speaker 2: was you know, obviously then you have to reject it
- 2:41Speaker 2: because it's just their plan. Well, if you had paid
- 2:43Speaker 2: any attention at all to the plan, there was a
- 2:46Speaker 2: number of points and I did six on my show
- 2:48Speaker 2: that the Russians would categorically rejoice. They were reject They
- 2:51Speaker 2: would never accept that. So the idea that it was
- 2:53Speaker 2: a Russian plan was absurd at face value if you
- 2:57Speaker 2: paid attention to face value. What I think was going
- 2:59Speaker 2: on is that Europe is absolutely terrified of this war ending.
- 3:04Speaker 2: I know that sounds strange, but they just cannot acknowledge
- 3:08Speaker 2: that they have lost the war, that NATO has lost
- 3:11Speaker 2: the war, that the European Union and all their economic
- 3:13Speaker 2: accepts have lost this war. But that is the case,
- 3:17Speaker 2: and so they want to continue the fiction longer, and
- 3:19Speaker 2: they're okay with you talk about people dying, as this
- 3:23Speaker 2: is real life. People will continue to die on the
- 3:26Speaker 2: Ukraine's side because of the unwillingness and the inability on
- 3:31Speaker 2: the Western side to acknowledge this war must come to
- 3:33Speaker 2: an end. And you know, I have some issues with
- 3:35Speaker 2: President Trump on several issues here, but this is one
- 3:38Speaker 2: I'm in lockstep with him. I am one hundred percent
- 3:40Speaker 2: behind his effort to get this over with by the
- 3:43Speaker 2: least objectionable path possible. And it's important to understand there
- 3:47Speaker 2: is no good path, there's only the least offensive. Well,
- 3:52Speaker 2: let me.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Just I guess I'm kind of curious about European Union's
- 3:54Speaker 1: position given what you said, Low. We had to pull
- 3:58Speaker 1: out of Vietnam exactly a shining moment for the United States.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Of course, you know, the Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't exactly a
- 4:04Speaker 1: shining moment for the United States. You know, it didn't
- 4:06Speaker 1: look good and we had to take our alums, we
- 4:08Speaker 1: can't declare a win in the win column, but the
- 4:11Speaker 1: futility of continuing in the face of you know, public
- 4:14Speaker 1: opposition or whatever the case may be, we move on
- 4:17Speaker 1: with our lives. Is this analogous to that at all?
- 4:19Speaker 1: Are they just unwilling to admit defeat or is this
- 4:21Speaker 1: much greater in terms of their economic connection with Ukraine
- 4:25Speaker 1: that really matters to them even though they can't really
- 4:28Speaker 1: do much about it.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, it's a combination of both those in the
- 4:32Speaker 2: worst way on each side. There was actually, interestingly also
- 4:36Speaker 2: over last weekend in the Ukraine media there was a
- 4:40Speaker 2: lot of anngst that many of the leaders were oblivious
- 4:45Speaker 2: actually in Ukraine against Europe, saying, you know, you guys
- 4:49Speaker 2: keep talking this big game about wanting to defeat Russia, etc.
- 4:52Speaker 2: But you have given this is a fact, more money
- 4:56Speaker 2: to Russia since this war has started to the Ukraine.
- 5:00Speaker 2: I continue to purchase their oil and in some cases,
- 5:03Speaker 2: like with France, even greater levels in this year than
- 5:05Speaker 2: the previous two. So the Ukraine side of saying, y'all
- 5:09Speaker 2: are just playing both sides against the middle. You want
- 5:11Speaker 2: cash if you want the war to keep going on
- 5:12Speaker 2: at our expense, and that's the bottom line.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I think you know.
- 5:16Speaker 2: I laughed.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I literally, I don't know if you heard me laughing.
- 5:18Speaker 1: That's like the definition of batcrap insane, if I may
- 5:21Speaker 1: use that term, sir. The European Union has embraced as
- 5:24Speaker 1: zero carbon emissions crap or so long they have destroyed
- 5:27Speaker 1: their own economies, and here they are buying Russian oil
- 5:30Speaker 1: to keep the power on because windmills don't cut it well,
- 5:35Speaker 1: arguing that Russian needs to be defeated in the war.
- 5:37Speaker 1: I can't make any sense out of this other than
- 5:39Speaker 1: say it sounds like something out of some deranged you know,
- 5:42Speaker 1: science fiction, maybe salvad or Dolly like parallel universe.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the least defensive you can say
- 5:50Speaker 2: about the European side, because it is totally divorced from
- 5:53Speaker 2: military reality. This war is over at the conclusion is
- 5:57Speaker 2: already known. It can't end any other way than rush
- 6:00Speaker 2: through victory and European and the Ukraine side and they're
- 6:03Speaker 2: just there's Ukraine leadership is in bed with this. On
- 6:06Speaker 2: top of of course, that's the other thing that the
- 6:08Speaker 2: Ukrainian people were upset about is all the corruption that's
- 6:11Speaker 2: now being exposed at the highest levels. So literally it's
- 6:14Speaker 2: about money. At the Ukraine leadership level and at the
- 6:17Speaker 2: European leadership level, it's all about cash. And they always
- 6:21Speaker 2: talk about how much more money they're going to spend
- 6:23Speaker 2: on defense, while zero willingness at all to engage in diplomacy.
- 6:27Speaker 2: That is the state of Western leadership in the twenty
- 6:30Speaker 2: twenty five.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It's a terrible thing to behold, it really is. And meanwhile,
- 6:34Speaker 1: young people and older people are being slaughtered on the battlefield,
- 6:38Speaker 1: and just while all this incompetence swirls around, it just
- 6:41Speaker 1: breaks my heart. Daniel Davis deeep diyes Where you get
- 6:44Speaker 1: the podcast, find it and regularly listen to it.
- 6:46Speaker 2: I do.
- 6:46Speaker 1: And then the other pivot over to the Trump administration
- 6:50Speaker 1: seems to be displeased with Israel's response to an ensminer
- 6:54Speaker 1: incursion in Gaza, and yet seems to be okay with
- 6:57Speaker 1: Israel's response that has Balla over in Lebanon. What's the difference,
- 7:01Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, Yeah.
- 7:04Speaker 2: You know this. I was telling a colleague just last
- 7:07Speaker 2: week that we claimed that piece has come to the
- 7:11Speaker 2: Middle East, But when you look at the amount of
- 7:14Speaker 2: attacks in the Gaza strip and especially the West Bank
- 7:18Speaker 2: since this you know, seasfire so called, was brought into effects.
- 7:21Speaker 2: You would never know there was sea spark because this
- 7:23Speaker 2: continued to be a lot of attacks and then sometimes
- 7:27Speaker 2: the Hamicide fires back, and then of course they get
- 7:29Speaker 2: this huge response back from the Israeli side. In my estimation,
- 7:33Speaker 2: if I was just looking at the ground, I would
- 7:35Speaker 2: never have even known there was an alleged ceasefire. But
- 7:37Speaker 2: the fighting continues going on. And then now then you
- 7:40Speaker 2: add this issue back in Hezbela and in Beirut, et cetera,
- 7:44Speaker 2: and that was also supposed to have been in a
- 7:47Speaker 2: semi ceasfire situation, but then Israel just launched into this
- 7:52Speaker 2: assassination you know, decapitation struck, and they continued hit in
- 7:55Speaker 2: the southern part. So it just looks to me like
- 7:57Speaker 2: Israel still at war and I don't know where they're
- 7:59Speaker 2: don't and I don't know what the ejective verse because
- 8:02Speaker 2: I don't see a militarily attainable objective. I just see
- 8:05Speaker 2: lots of shots and firing, and it just keeps the
- 8:08Speaker 2: situation roiled up.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Maybe just engage in population control, sir, Sorry I had
- 8:14Speaker 1: to say that out loud.
- 8:15Speaker 2: I hope that's not the case. But it's an ugly
- 8:18Speaker 2: situation with no apparent resolution that I can see anytime soon.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Someday, sir, someday you and I will have a positive conversation.
- 8:26Speaker 1: I know it typiclarly in dark conversations of late on that.
- 8:29Speaker 2: I thought this week, Rob before Thanksgiving, I thought we'd
- 8:31Speaker 2: be able to.
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- 8:44Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, from behalf of my listening audience and my
- 8:47Speaker 1: family to yours. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving,
- 8:50Speaker 1: that you do have something to be thankful for, and
- 8:52Speaker 1: I'll look forward to another conversation with you next week.
- 8:54Speaker 1: We do look forward to it. See you then, take
- 8:56Speaker 1: care of my friend eight forty five ify five care
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