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- 0:00Laced up. Let's go. It's time for Banter with the boys.
- 0:12Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to Banter with the boys.
- 0:15Gridiron updates week 16.
- 0:19Playoffs fast approaching.
- 0:20I mean, it's just it's just it's coming to an end.
- 0:23I can't believe it already.
- 0:24I know it feels good. We've got three weeks left.
- 0:26And three more weeks.
- 0:27Three of the regular season. We're just getting started.
- 0:30I know. We're just getting started to the real games, man.
- 0:32And we punched our ticket this week.
- 0:34That's right. Yes, we did.
- 0:35Well, well, D'Angelo's ticket's been punched, I suppose.
- 0:38OK. Yeah, technically, I guess.
- 0:40But the rest of us are just going to get a little
- 0:44splash this week. But Rob, how's it going?
- 0:45It's doing well. Yeah, it's really good.
- 0:48It was a solid Monday night.
- 0:49That white out was look good.
- 0:51Vibe looked good.
- 0:52You know, I wish I was Dom. He was there.
- 0:54Yeah, Dom was there.
- 0:55I was the game was crazy. I was wearing the purple.
- 0:58Lady was wearing white, but it was a good time.
- 1:01Vibes were high. Game was great.
- 1:03And we got the dub.
- 1:05You were getting into it with a couple of fans.
- 1:07Yeah. Bear down.
- 1:08A lot of a lot of trash was thrown at me at the end of that game.
- 1:11I bet. I bet.
- 1:13In U.S. Bank Stadium. In the bank.
- 1:15In the bank at that, too.
- 1:16So obviously, you can tell by the raspiness in my voice.
- 1:19It was a very long night.
- 1:22A very long night. Very long night.
- 1:24And D'Angelo, we're happy to have you this week.
- 1:25Appreciate it, man. I'm glad to be back.
- 1:27I'm a little sad. You know, the Lions, they took the L this past weekend.
- 1:32I mean, Josh Allen, Doug, he's just playing phenomenal.
- 1:36I mean, you really can't do none of the guys that, you know, competing at that level.
- 1:39He's on his own planet. So yeah, he is.
- 1:42Yeah. Both take it to the chin.
- 1:43Yeah. Both went crazy.
- 1:45And well, I can't wait to get after that.
- 1:47Well, that's that's probably the game of the week.
- 1:48Yeah, for sure.
- 1:49Oh, yeah. Video game numbers, for sure.
- 1:51Yeah. Video. There you go. Video game.
- 1:53Video game numbers.
- 1:54With that, Kev, let's head into our game or week 15 game recaps.
- 2:08You already know Skoda, the ball, we're up here.
- 2:11Dom's got the towel from the game.
- 2:13I got a flag. Rob's wearing no purple, so he's no longer a Viking.
- 2:17But the Vikings getting dubbed 30 to 12 Rob as a non Viking fan.
- 2:22Now, how did that game look?
- 2:24I mean, he's got a Viking's football. I'm sorry.
- 2:26Yeah, I mean, it was all overall a solid game.
- 2:30Good start at the strip sack to start by a good yard.
- 2:33You know, that was Bill talking, NFC Defensive Player of the Year.
- 2:36OK, so I was going to I was going to talk to you about that.
- 2:38I am now I'm not on that bandwagon, but I'm now I'm like,
- 2:43I'm prepared to go into that battle with you now.
- 2:45I think Grenard just having an outstanding season.
- 2:48Yeah, yeah. So that's that fumble should be a touchdown.
- 2:51It should have started off, you know, they end up getting a field
- 2:53goal out of it, you know, and then 13 13 nil at half.
- 2:56So that's always a nice start.
- 2:59Sam had a really solid day other than that one. Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:02You know, it was kind of a 50 50 ball.
- 3:04Or I didn't like the play selection on the third on that fourth and three.
- 3:09Anyway, it wasn't it wasn't what I was expecting.
- 3:12I don't know why we went to wide receivers in the corner, forcing it
- 3:15when we could just probably run like either like a bubble screen
- 3:18maybe or even just underneath throughout the Hawkinson.
- 3:20It's fourth and three or just run the ball the gut.
- 3:23Let's ride. That's right. He says, yeah.
- 3:25I know. I know you said Sam Darnold a decent day.
- 3:27And I mean, I would agree. I mean, we won the game, right? Yeah.
- 3:31We because again, I'm on the roster just motivational speaker.
- 3:35Yeah, for sure. Yes. Yes. That's my position.
- 3:39Sorry that threw me off.
- 3:41But yeah, with that, what I wanted, I want to touch on Sam Darnold.
- 3:46I feel like they were this close.
- 3:47I mean, the score being 30 to 12, they were this close for that
- 3:50from that game being a blowout.
- 3:52Sam Darnold connects on a couple, you know, quote unquote to us
- 3:56armchair folks like easier throws.
- 3:58You know what I mean? He missed a couple easy throws.
- 4:00Yes, JJ dropped the one to which he took credit for the old drop stuff.
- 4:04So it's been a while. I don't remember his last drop.
- 4:08I do not even care.
- 4:09No, like you you get one.
- 4:12No problem. No problem.
- 4:14No problem. We were playing.
- 4:15Right. But I think if Sam cleans up a little bit of that, it seemed
- 4:21like the touch passes he was having the most trouble with, you know, like
- 4:24I'm saying, you know, like seven to 15 yards, you know, that little window.
- 4:29He just kept missing them.
- 4:30Yeah. And he did throw a couple dimes, though, and he did.
- 4:33You know, absolutely.
- 4:34You know, you're like, I'm just saying it felt like it was that close
- 4:37to being a complete blowout, which you the play calling.
- 4:40It felt like he wanted it.
- 4:41Yeah. I mean, there were seven auto at 14, 50 percent
- 4:44on third down versions is a pretty solid number.
- 4:48You want to at least be at that 50 percent mark.
- 4:50Bears are one.
- 4:52They didn't get their first first.
- 4:53They didn't get their first third down conversion to like the mid third quarter.
- 4:56That's it.
- 4:58That's and that's not the only team that we're going to talk about tonight
- 5:00that had the third down.
- 5:01What was I mean?
- 5:02Just a complete game changer and you can't get the first down.
- 5:04Yeah. Other than that, did you what are we?
- 5:07You know, I know we've talked about Caleb Williams all year, but, you know,
- 5:10did you did the Angela, did you see anything different?
- 5:13Oh, Williams, like he honestly didn't play as bad as I thought he was going to be.
- 5:17I mean, he had no picks in the air.
- 5:19It was rough.
- 5:20And then he got that that touchdown to Keenan Allen was.
- 5:22Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 5:24I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, window.
- 5:26He said that in.
- 5:27So I mean, he well, he threw it 31 times.
- 5:31Just about a completion.
- 5:32Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, you really can't bash him too much.
- 5:36I mean, yeah, the defense really didn't play.
- 5:39No, they were getting gassed.
- 5:40Oh, yeah. Well, they're on the field. It was a long day.
- 5:43Yeah, for sure.
- 5:44Caleb Williams knows how to extend the play.
- 5:45He's really good extending the play.
- 5:47Yeah, no, for sure.
- 5:47There was a couple of times where I was like, let's get a sack and he just
- 5:51running around getting that one where he just hugged it down.
- 5:54But he literally just running around.
- 5:56Yeah, stuff like that.
- 5:57So I mean, like I said, for the Bears, for the franchise down the road,
- 6:00there is excited for the Caleb Williams and everything.
- 6:03Besides that, I'm just big on it's time to get that coaches staff together.
- 6:07Yeah. Something is wrong in that in that just the building,
- 6:09you know, for me personally, and I can tell on the field.
- 6:12If your owner of the Bears, you're keeping the GM still? No.
- 6:15No, you'd get to the GM.
- 6:17It's time to just.
- 6:19Yeah, I mean, I second that.
- 6:21He's like, what, two and 14 versus NFC North over that position right now.
- 6:26So that's the craziest.
- 6:28I mean, that's that's tough.
- 6:29But at the same time, it's a business too.
- 6:30So I mean, I could probably still keep see them, keeping them because.
- 6:33Yeah. You know, one more year.
- 6:35Yeah, it's not like I like some of his free agent signings.
- 6:38So that's the thing for me that's kind of, you know, especially defensively,
- 6:41at least trying to glue together a defense and start something.
- 6:45You know, you got Montez sweat.
- 6:46Yeah, that was a pretty big deal.
- 6:48You know what I mean? So I don't know.
- 6:50I think I'd keep them for now. Right.
- 6:52But I'd imagine he's going to be part of that hiring process for the H.C.
- 6:57So you really got to hit it.
- 6:58You got to hit a home run there. Definitely do.
- 7:00And it's not a horrible situation to be stepping into.
- 7:02So you're going to have some good candidates.
- 7:03Just a hard division to be coming into as a new.
- 7:05Oh, there we are.
- 7:07So it's just it's just like it's just in a sense, you would be like,
- 7:10this is defeating. I got to go play.
- 7:12Some would say two of the contenders for the Super Bowl
- 7:15and come in next season, you know, I'm saying.
- 7:17We don't know who's going to Super Bowl right now.
- 7:19But next season, new head coach comes in.
- 7:21One of these guys won Super Bowl.
- 7:22And it's a tough thing about it.
- 7:23I've got to be four and what, you know, this last year.
- 7:26Yeah, it's going to be tough.
- 7:27But at the same time, you just got to come in
- 7:29and come with the right mindset for these guys.
- 7:31You got Caleb Williams.
- 7:32You got a good quarterback, got a good mindset.
- 7:34You just got to get some more players and a couple more pieces of the puzzle.
- 7:37Sure, for sure.
- 7:39Staying in that division.
- 7:41We'll just go ahead and talk about the Packers next.
- 7:43Is there only because they're just next on the list here?
- 7:47But again, with that division talk,
- 7:49Packers are third in the division at 10 or four.
- 7:51Yeah, like that's that's insane.
- 7:53It is absolutely. That's insane.
- 7:55Packers get the dub 30 to 13 in Seattle.
- 7:58I thought Seattle put up more of a fight.
- 8:00Yes, Geno went down, but I just thought it'd be a little bit different.
- 8:03I thought Seattle's defense would play a little bit better.
- 8:05I mean, that first quarter just got away from them. Yeah.
- 8:08I mean, I think that was probably the best Packer game
- 8:10I've seen they play all year long. It's kind of scary.
- 8:13You know, they're starting to get warm right now.
- 8:15Who's that linebacker, 56, who just came back and played?
- 8:18They end up having an intercepted to, but he was all over the Cooper Cooper.
- 8:22Yes. Edwin Cooper.
- 8:23Yeah. So like, oh my gosh, that defense is starting to pick up.
- 8:26Yeah, Geno going down kind of changed the overall second half of that game.
- 8:30But, oh, that pick to he threw leading into half.
- 8:34Yeah, that felt like a giant moment.
- 8:36Yeah, it was just like, yeah, 20 to three at half.
- 8:39But I mean, then felt your starting quarterback.
- 8:41That's a tough field for sure. Yeah, no doubt.
- 8:45I mean, that Packer receiving room, though, I mean, that's
- 8:47that's got me a little bit concerned heading into the playoffs.
- 8:50I mean, I can't lie. Romeo Dobbs.
- 8:52I think it was Dobbs. Is he number 87? Yeah.
- 8:54Yeah, that that one touch down where he catches it and he just
- 8:58I mean, he's just a man. Yeah.
- 9:00And he's just a man.
- 9:01Yeah. And puts that in the end zone.
- 9:03Oh, I love that. Yeah.
- 9:05But like that receiving room as a whole, at the moment,
- 9:08I'm going to revoke my hate of Christian Watson
- 9:10because he's made a couple of outstanding catches last year.
- 9:12No act on the Christian Watson.
- 9:14No, no, I'm just revoking the hate for now.
- 9:18Next week you're going to come with his jersey.
- 9:21Oh, if the Packers win the Super Bowl this year, I'll buy Christian Watson.
- 9:26All right. All right. Good. From DHK.
- 9:33But no, the one catch that he had this week where he's literally spinning around
- 9:37catches the ball and still has the know how to get your feet in bounds.
- 9:40I mean, that's just that's an actual level.
- 9:41And then the catch, I think it was last week or two weeks ago,
- 9:43it was just outstanding to get in the toe tap.
- 9:46And Laferre spreads the ball around really well to all athletes.
- 9:50You know, like I was just looking at their target share
- 9:52or in their touches, everyone's touching the ball.
- 9:54And it looks for sure. Jordan loves looking healthy.
- 9:57Josh Jacobs is a freaking force when he comes out in the first quarter
- 10:01and just starts.
- 10:02I mean, you're just pounding the rock already down their throat with Josh Jacobs.
- 10:05I mean, that's tough. Yeah.
- 10:07If you're already giving up first, I mean, he's he was already
- 10:09wearing down that defense in the first quarter. He was.
- 10:12So as far as Seattle, though, I mean, they're approaching the playoffs.
- 10:17They're in the lead.
- 10:18They're tied for the leader right now in the division with the Rams.
- 10:20I don't know who gets out right now. They're technically out right now.
- 10:23They're eliminated. No, not eliminated.
- 10:25Not eliminated. Yeah.
- 10:27Yeah. Yeah.
- 10:29They still can make it. Yeah.
- 10:30They started today. They'd be out. Yeah. Right.
- 10:32By one by one game because of Washington taking that last shot.
- 10:37So that's crazy.
- 10:38I mean, three wild card teams almost in double wins right now.
- 10:42Yeah. Compared to the AFC, you look at it's pretty much AFC is almost decided.
- 10:48You know, who's going for the most part.
- 10:51I think there's a two game gap between the eight team and the seven team.
- 10:54So unless I'm crazy happens.
- 10:57Right. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
- 11:02But let's just move on.
- 11:03There's not much we don't like talking about the Packers.
- 11:05Not I mean, I mean, I mean, I got they got 10 wins.
- 11:08They're they're going to the playoffs.
- 11:09We know most likely they have not clinched yet, but they will.
- 11:14But let's go to the other team lurking in the NFC north.
- 11:17I say lurking, but they're leading. Right.
- 11:19Unfortunately, unfortunately, or slipping.
- 11:22And, you know, OK, hold on a minute.
- 11:26Bill's traveling to Detroit, getting the dub 48 to 42.
- 11:30Bill's trying to attempt to go after that one seed in the AFC.
- 11:35Lions trying to lock in that one scene.
- 11:37I mean, just a ridiculous battle.
- 11:39I mean, potential Super Bowl preview, maybe someday.
- 11:41Who knows? Yeah.
- 11:42Not this year because the likes are gone.
- 11:44But the answer. What did you see?
- 11:45What did you see from your line?
- 11:47That one? Yeah, for sure. No doubt.
- 11:49I mean, great play from both quarterbacks.
- 11:51But yeah, no, late on us as a Lions fan, man.
- 11:55I mean, as far as like what I saw.
- 11:58Golf, his decision making was a little rocky at first,
- 12:02but I mean, he got it together.
- 12:04Defensive play calling.
- 12:07Was all over the place, man, I feel like they
- 12:11they didn't have enough spies on Allen.
- 12:13It you literally let him do what he's good at doing.
- 12:16Yeah. And once you do that,
- 12:18it's going to be a 48.
- 12:19Like, come on now. 90 points. It's crazy.
- 12:23So it's like when it gets to that point,
- 12:24it's pretty much the battle of the quarterbacks.
- 12:26And, you know, Allen, he took the last
- 12:30the last the last hit really when it comes to boxing.
- 12:33So that was a haymaker for us.
- 12:35But I mean, we we we picked it up late.
- 12:39We tried to, you know, do the onside, try to get the ball.
- 12:4121 in the quarter. I know.
- 12:44So it's clear today that, you know, we always can score.
- 12:46Like we get right off and we can do it.
- 12:49You got plenty.
- 12:50Yeah, we got the playmakers for it.
- 12:51So it's all elephant in the room, though.
- 12:54Montgomery out for the season. Yeah, that's huge.
- 12:56How do you feel about that? Oh, man.
- 12:58I don't know. Knuckles.
- 13:02I mean, it's it's definitely it's going to.
- 13:04Yeah, it's going to take a hit on us.
- 13:06But Gibbs, you really can't go wrong with him.
- 13:11Feeding him the ball all game.
- 13:13He's a threat. Yeah, no, he's a threat.
- 13:15Yeah. And the receiving game, too.
- 13:16So, yeah, we can you know, he he's versatile with it.
- 13:19We can do a lot with him.
- 13:21I'm not too much concerned, even though like, you know, Montgomery
- 13:24he'll come in when we need those those tough yards,
- 13:27you know, those tough yards where he'll go up the hole and bang a few.
- 13:31Is there going to be anybody else on the roster right now?
- 13:33It's going to fill that void.
- 13:34Or are you or are you giving it to Gibbs?
- 13:36I'm gives a expected, you know, I'm giving you 20 to 25 carries again.
- 13:41I got 25 percent more. Yeah, for sure.
- 13:44You know, he can take it, you know, he's a tough dude.
- 13:46He's a tough man.
- 13:47He got the speed and he has the power to like a lot of people don't do.
- 13:52He's strong.
- 13:52Like you've seen some plays where he's trucking dudes
- 13:55and he's getting, you know, extra 30 yards down the field.
- 13:58So it's like it all comes to, you know, who wants to play now?
- 14:01You see, we got everybody down on the defense.
- 14:03I who wants to step up?
- 14:04You know, that's what a championship caliber team.
- 14:07You got to have those, you know, you got to trust in your second string
- 14:09just as much as your first, your third, just as much as the second.
- 14:12So it's free ball game on the defense, really.
- 14:15So it's like everybody got to step up.
- 14:16We did lose a lame. That was huge. Oh, my God.
- 14:19Yeah. So what's more?
- 14:21I guess I would say as a fan, losing Montgomery or Neil, that the detail.
- 14:26Yeah, I'm going to leave.
- 14:27I would say, yeah, yeah, like because you're still. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 14:30Exactly. We already got Aiden banged up.
- 14:33But another big, big defensive line. Yeah.
- 14:35Yeah. Best here at the line.
- 14:36No, for sure. Hands down, hands down.
- 14:38He was our best cat.
- 14:39And it's like, you know, those non contact injury plays
- 14:42a way that was nobody wants.
- 14:44Yeah, nobody. Even if you hate the team.
- 14:46Yeah, exactly.
- 14:47But I wish I'd upon. Yeah, I know.
- 14:48That was that was tough, man. I was watching. I'm like, oh, OK.
- 14:51So you got at Chicago at San Fran
- 14:55and then you got to come here to the bank, obviously, to end the season.
- 14:58What's the record? Oh, there.
- 15:00We got to go to the.
- 15:01Oh, yeah. I'm looking at Detroit.
- 15:03The dance. Yeah.
- 15:04We got to go there.
- 15:06What's the record?
- 15:07You know, yeah, I knew.
- 15:10I mean, I could have told you the answer before you asked the question.
- 15:14I mean, we see what he's already holding the Super Bowl trophy.
- 15:19I mean, it's really I feel like it's going to be
- 15:22a huge load on golf just going going forward, man.
- 15:26It's like you're the heart of the team right now.
- 15:29You know, the quarterback is usually the heart.
- 15:31Oh, you're the leader.
- 15:32So it's like, yeah, you can have a 500 passing yard game with five Tuddy's.
- 15:36It's still loose. Yeah.
- 15:37And you can have a game with five picks.
- 15:40And still win.
- 15:41So it's like we have the team for granted.
- 15:43We do. We are facing a lot of adversity right now.
- 15:46But I mean, it's just, you know, the choice about grit.
- 15:50So it's like as long as I keep that grit in them, they'll they'll they'll manage.
- 15:55I got faith. So grit and also the mailman coming in to play the tax
- 16:03before we move on the bills.
- 16:05Obviously, we talked about Detroit.
- 16:07We haven't even talked about the bills yet, who actually won this one, this
- 16:10shootout, I guess you could say.
- 16:12I mean, it was, you know, it was.
- 16:13Yeah, it was a great game.
- 16:14But I was riding with D'Angelo last week.
- 16:17I had the line.
- 16:18But when I when you look at the game, you watched it.
- 16:21Anybody say that's a great game on Madden.
- 16:23You know, I'm saying Todd Johnson, Fiverr.
- 16:25He had his running back in mad.
- 16:26Most receptions in the most yards on the receiving side.
- 16:29So in Josh Allen, he's playing an MVP caliber.
- 16:32That Clinton for that.
- 16:33So I think that was going to be my question is Josh Allen MVP.
- 16:36I would. I know we say that Sam Darnold's there.
- 16:40But man, Josh Allen.
- 16:41No, I wouldn't put ever put Sam Darnold above Josh.
- 16:44No, he's doing it's because I mean, it's
- 16:46it's because of what he can do with his legs, man.
- 16:48Yeah, he doesn't just slide all the time.
- 16:51No, he's very big.
- 16:53Don't get me wrong. You can't lose that guy right now.
- 16:56Yeah, I'm sure, you know, every hit, the whole staff is like, yeah, yeah,
- 17:00let's not.
- 17:01You know, at the same time, Josh Allen's got that in him.
- 17:03Yeah, he does. He's got that.
- 17:05He's got that grit.
- 17:06You know, I'm saying like you talking about D'Angelo,
- 17:08but the Lions got that grit.
- 17:09That's what I feel like.
- 17:10That's the definition of Josh Allen is the way he plays the game.
- 17:13He's putting all on on on the on the field.
- 17:16Yeah, he's he's having a really nice year.
- 17:19I feel like in the years past, he's usually like,
- 17:22we'll throw a bunch of balls where you're like, yeah, you know.
- 17:25Yeah, but he's been really consistent, hasn't been really the old gunslinger,
- 17:29you know, mentality, just chucking it everywhere.
- 17:31He's just very thoughtful of his full, you know, art.
- 17:35All that. Yeah.
- 17:36Well, he's just he's just been different for me to the second half of the season.
- 17:38I mean, the whole team has, but he has to.
- 17:41I mean, they're just they're really locking in right now and playing some good ball.
- 17:45They're getting scared.
- 17:46But that defense now is giving up 42 weeks in a row. For sure.
- 17:49Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
- 17:50So but I believe that I think if they played the Chiefs right now, that'd be insane.
- 17:54I mean, I think I don't think they play the right.
- 17:57I mean, Patrick Holmes also is hurt right now, too.
- 17:59Got that. He's got the high angle sprain.
- 18:00Yeah, we'll definitely touch on that.
- 18:02But I'm just saying, like, if they if they played like right now,
- 18:04I think that'd be a that's a score.
- 18:06You know what I mean? It's going to be for it could be.
- 18:08You know, I don't know.
- 18:09You don't think so?
- 18:10I don't think the Chiefs put up that much.
- 18:13OK. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 18:15But that's what I mean.
- 18:16Like, I'm more scared of the Bills right now.
- 18:18Oh, hands down. Yeah.
- 18:19Heading into the playoffs.
- 18:20You still got Baltimore and the Steelers lurking.
- 18:22Yeah. Wild cards, you know, in the sense.
- 18:25So I don't know.
- 18:27AFC could be tough.
- 18:28It's going to be fun.
- 18:30Yeah, it's going to be fun.
- 18:33I'm excited. You know, either team to beat either.
- 18:36Yeah. You talk about March Madness.
- 18:38Let's talk about that.
- 18:39Playoffs this year.
- 18:39This is a fun.
- 18:41Bill still have a shot at that number one seat.
- 18:42I mean, they play the Patriots, Jets and then the Patriots again.
- 18:45I mean, yeah, if they're for real, that should be sweet.
- 18:49They should be three and all.
- 18:50So who knows?
- 18:51Maybe they steal the number one seat.
- 18:53Well, they got two games behind.
- 18:55So they got they got to win out for sure.
- 18:57And then with my home's ankle, you never know what.
- 19:00Maybe they sit and they sit and play the long game and be like,
- 19:02Oh, well, we might lose the number one seed.
- 19:05But you want that one.
- 19:07Oh, for sure you do.
- 19:08Because now that's even more rest.
- 19:10Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah.
- 19:11But what does it feel like every year Patrick Holmes
- 19:13twists an ankle at the end of the year and plays and he's fun.
- 19:16Right. And he's amazing.
- 19:18He doesn't miss a beat.
- 19:19And then plays at an elite level.
- 19:22I actually got a notification that they're saying he's practicing
- 19:25and Hollywood Browns in full, full goal.
- 19:28All right. All right.
- 19:29All right. Enough about my home's in the sheets
- 19:31because we're going all Chris Collins.
- 19:33We're falling in love with my home's.
- 19:34We're not even talking about the chiefs.
- 19:37So anyway, with that Bucks at Chargers,
- 19:40there's a tough one for you.
- 19:41This. Yeah, this is extremely disappointing.
- 19:44But what it did for me as a Chargers fan, if you will,
- 19:48just solidified that this team is not really a playoff team.
- 19:51I mean, they're they're kind of fakers to me.
- 19:53The secondaries are extremely sauce right now.
- 19:56And then they're offensively they don't have any for sure.
- 20:00That the schedule help them.
- 20:02But offensively, there's just no rhythm there right now.
- 20:05You know, first year head coach, you know, first year of having
- 20:07the new head coach, you know what I mean?
- 20:09So I'm hoping off season is a little bit different.
- 20:12They got to add a playmaking running back
- 20:15because you can see what it can do for that offense.
- 20:17Yeah, they need a right back.
- 20:18You can't rely on Dobbins at this point.
- 20:19So you got to add somebody.
- 20:21McConkey caught another touchdown.
- 20:23Quinton Johnson had a good game.
- 20:24Yeah, you know, there's good pieces there.
- 20:27But defensively, I mean, it's just scary.
- 20:29Defensively and then also they had nine rushes.
- 20:33I mean, that's what I mean.
- 20:34There's no rhythm.
- 20:36And, you know, if you look at it, you're up 17 to what?
- 20:39Bad at math, 17 to 13 at half.
- 20:43Yeah, there's no excuse to only have 11 total rushes.
- 20:45Well, in the second, yeah.
- 20:46In the second half, they went punt punt.
- 20:49I.T. turn over and downs, turn on downs, fumble.
- 20:52So that's how they finish the second.
- 20:54And when we talked about the Bears third downs, this was the other team.
- 20:58And they did not they couldn't get a first down to save their life.
- 21:02Twenty three total plays in the second half they had.
- 21:05That's terrible. That's disappointing.
- 21:07Their third down efficiency, they were over six.
- 21:09The players were very over two on fourth down.
- 21:12So I got in the box were nine for 15 on the other.
- 21:16Yeah. I don't mean Baker looked good.
- 21:18No, he looked great.
- 21:18Mike Evans. Oh, no.
- 21:20He turned out.
- 21:21Yeah, he had a blow.
- 21:23Rob's happy about Mike Evans.
- 21:26Every time every time Mike Evans got a catch, I just thought about Rob
- 21:29just like dancing in his seat like, yep, everyone.
- 21:33Feel it. I know you're in a PR lead, too.
- 21:35So, oh, yeah, you know, it's the only way to play basketball.
- 21:38So Tampa being eight and six, obviously, when leading the NFC
- 21:42South right now, Falcons at seven and seven.
- 21:46Falcons had the tiebreaker, though, they beat him twice.
- 21:47Yeah. Yeah. Right.
- 21:49So who do the Falcons have real quick, real quick?
- 21:52They have the commanders.
- 21:54I know a game I've actually Giants and Panthers.
- 21:57Yeah. So the Falcons are favorable schedule.
- 21:59They do. Yeah.
- 22:00I would say two and one.
- 22:01They had probably they probably I think Washington pulls that out.
- 22:04Yeah. I got the box.
- 22:05They are pulling it up right now.
- 22:07Cowboys, Cowboys, Panthers, Saints.
- 22:10So, I mean, it's a favorable schedule for them to. Yeah.
- 22:13I don't know. That's going to come down to it.
- 22:15But right now as well, I mean, it's it's looking like if it stayed the same,
- 22:18Atlanta would also be out of the playoffs.
- 22:21They would technically. Yeah.
- 22:23So might as well start like that.
- 22:24That'd be the end of.
- 22:25I was going to say that's the end of the Kirk Cousins in Atlanta.
- 22:29Yeah. I bet he'd be a free agent again.
- 22:32Just in time for Atlanta to sign Sam Darnold and then Kirk Cousins
- 22:35goes back to Minnesota.
- 22:37Oh, no, no, no.
- 22:39It's not a 10-4.
- 22:40I'll have moment.
- 22:41I'm not claiming that that's what's going to happen.
- 22:42So you're saying if say if the Falcons don't make the playoffs,
- 22:46I think that's gone. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 22:48Really? Yeah. I think so.
- 22:50I think I think a lot of money.
- 22:52Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 22:53That's a lot of money.
- 22:54That last loop is right.
- 22:56OK, it didn't work.
- 22:57You still drafted a quarterback that has played a lot of football.
- 23:00That we've talked about.
- 23:02I think it's you still got to pay Kirk Cousins next season.
- 23:05Or do you see a start Kirk and like you give them like four games?
- 23:10A short release this time.
- 23:11Yeah, I can see that.
- 23:12Yeah, I would see that.
- 23:13And they just pulled a string.
- 23:15Oh, yeah. It's got four games.
- 23:16You don't get it together.
- 23:17Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
- 23:19But he'd be sitting.
- 23:19I don't think they'd release him at that point.
- 23:21I feel like he'd sit and accept that role for this season
- 23:25and then try to start somewhere else next season.
- 23:26But at that point, I don't know if anybody would give him a shot.
- 23:28Yeah, there's yeah, there's some people at the 49ers.
- 23:31I'd rather look at look Raiders.
- 23:34How is looking his chops about, you know,
- 23:37he looks who knows right now.
- 23:39Yeah. But all right.
- 23:41All right. Enough about Tampa Bay and whoever we're talking about.
- 23:44Chargers. Unbelievable.
- 23:46Not just bad. Just bad.
- 23:48Speaking of a not another non-competitive game, really.
- 23:51I mean, it was defensive.
- 23:52It was well, it was very wet.
- 23:54Rams get in the win 12 to six over the Niners in San Fran.
- 24:01Debo non factor.
- 24:03Ten touches total.
- 24:05What is going on?
- 24:05How do you hear one of your best off players?
- 24:08Only ten touches. Yeah, he's seven targets reruns.
- 24:12Must be. There's some going on in the 49ers locker room in general.
- 24:15You think so? You think the guy left at half time.
- 24:18Campbell. Yeah. Campbell.
- 24:19Less than a half time. Yeah.
- 24:21There's got to be something going on over there.
- 24:23Like nobody's happy right now.
- 24:25You know, everybody thought they were going to be Super Bowl contenders
- 24:27and they're not even making it.
- 24:29How many wins they got right now? Six.
- 24:31Six. They're still technically in.
- 24:33I know the division they play on. They're still technically.
- 24:35But I don't. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a threat to me.
- 24:37Yeah. No. Yeah.
- 24:38I totally thought they were a Super Bowl contender at the beginning of the season.
- 24:41I hope they make the playoff.
- 24:43NFC championship game at the least.
- 24:45Right. You know, probably against the Lions.
- 24:47No, yeah. We'd have to rewind the tape.
- 24:49No, I had them there. I had them there.
- 24:51I don't need tape. I know.
- 24:55I remember. Yeah.
- 24:56I mean, I mean, with McCaffrey not playing really the whole season.
- 24:59I mean, they're a whole different team.
- 25:01But exactly the whole season, though, at some point, you got to change it up.
- 25:04At some point, you got to start figuring out how to live without him.
- 25:08But unfortunately, you're also trying to figure out how to live without Debo, too,
- 25:11since he doesn't seem to show up. So it's it's tough.
- 25:14You just got to get the stars of the line over there, man.
- 25:16I mean, that's where you see the running game with the play action.
- 25:19So effective on a lot of teams.
- 25:21And that's what makes Debo and you couldn't kill.
- 25:23A Kyle Shanahan offense. You really succeed.
- 25:25You see Kyle Shanahan, he's got it going over there.
- 25:27I mean, that running game, any running back come over there on the ball.
- 25:30I know. Isaac Arendo, you know what I'm saying?
- 25:33I don't really know much about Isaac Arendo, but the man still came in
- 25:36and was doing his thing behind, you know.
- 25:38So, I mean, right there, like the Angels said, the stars got a line.
- 25:41How do you feel about Purdy?
- 25:42I mean, I think I think I think it's finally coming in.
- 25:46I understood why he was the last round draft pick. Yeah.
- 25:48Oh, you think he doesn't come back from this really?
- 25:51He's on just a downward trend and then he'll live down there.
- 25:55Oh, I'll live on that one right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 25:57That's why I feel like I can kind of see.
- 25:59Because this contract here for him is 100 percent.
- 26:02This is a big year for him.
- 26:03I wouldn't sign him back.
- 26:05Yeah, now I'm not starting that now.
- 26:07You get Purdy 40 or do you get Darnold 40? 40.
- 26:10Oh, they're easy.
- 26:12San Fran's going to be gunning for Darnold hard.
- 26:14He was already there last year.
- 26:16And if Harrison Smith, hypothetically,
- 26:17not like one of Vikings, really quick, but if Harrison retires,
- 26:20like that clears up a lot of money.
- 26:21Now do the Vikings actually consider trying to keep him
- 26:24because he's going to be super sought after? Yeah. Yeah.
- 26:26Or do you become you or do you become QB to you
- 26:30and try to, you know, now you bring up Daniel Jones and try to fix him
- 26:34or maybe J.J. McCarthy's ready. You know what I mean?
- 26:37So I think there's going to be a market for Sam Darnold.
- 26:39100 percent. It should be. I mean, he's proved.
- 26:41And if the Vikings don't sign him, he's going to sign a big deal.
- 26:44Yeah. So do you franchise take them and trade them?
- 26:47Oh, that's actually wouldn't be bad.
- 26:49I also thought about the franchise tag.
- 26:51I mean, that's an option.
- 26:53Or does that add some weird conflict to also?
- 26:56And yeah, that too. Yeah.
- 26:58Like you get paid a lot of money, but you're just like, OK,
- 27:01like you're not going to invest.
- 27:02And now I might have to move mid season for all I know.
- 27:05You know what I mean?
- 27:05Like, but that 40 million dollar paycheck sitting in your bank account.
- 27:09Looking nice.
- 27:10That man. Are you sure you're not going to take for a quarterback?
- 27:13It's all about money.
- 27:15But if you're going to do that, then why don't you just sign him
- 27:17for a two, three year deal at that?
- 27:19Well, then you're planning to keep them.
- 27:20Yeah. Right. Exactly.
- 27:22It's not the sign and trade.
- 27:23So you think they would like franchise
- 27:25take them maybe hypothetically, right?
- 27:27And then maybe J.J. McCarthy is ready to go.
- 27:29I would say the trade and the options on the table.
- 27:31You know, we got options right now.
- 27:34And that's interesting.
- 27:35No, definitely a lot of options.
- 27:36All right. Give back to the game.
- 27:38Rams Rams Niners. All right.
- 27:39Sorry for the Vikings tangent again.
- 27:41It is sad, Darnold, the Niners were like, right? Yeah.
- 27:44Yeah. He will be on their radar, if not already.
- 27:46100 percent if they don't stick with Purdy.
- 27:48But I think that's an interesting, interesting take.
- 27:52Rams just squeaking by.
- 27:55But they're looking like they're going to make a playoff run.
- 27:58I mean, they are.
- 27:59Are they winning the division now? I believe.
- 28:01Definitely. Yeah, they are. Yeah.
- 28:02So right now, you know, eight and five.
- 28:04Their last three Jets Cardinals, Seahawks.
- 28:06I mean, not necessarily super easy.
- 28:09I think the Jets win this weekend.
- 28:10Yeah, they did. The Jets won.
- 28:13So they're going to go for two in a row.
- 28:15No, but and then two division games.
- 28:18So wrap it up. Yeah, we know the Cardinals aren't,
- 28:21you know, they've battled, but they're not quite there.
- 28:22But you still got to deal with Kyle and Mary.
- 28:25You still got to deal with the playmakers. Yeah.
- 28:27Connor had actually a pretty decent game.
- 28:29I like James Connor. 30 plus points of fantasy.
- 28:31I would love that. I got more fantasy.
- 28:33I know he had a good week.
- 28:34They paid him too. So he's staying there.
- 28:37Oh, yeah, definitely. Oh, yeah.
- 28:38A little tidbit, though, I noticed on the Rams game, Cooper.
- 28:41Zero, zero, zero, zero. They locked him up.
- 28:43Yeah. You know, but that's probably maybe his first time
- 28:47that he had zero catches.
- 28:50I would say they said since like twenty eighteen.
- 28:53Some first time since twenty eighteen, he said zero.
- 28:56No, it's third time.
- 28:58Or I forget the statistic they had it during the game.
- 29:01It's just pretty rare.
- 29:02You know, that for any of them drops or just
- 29:03I know he's targeted three times. No, I don't.
- 29:06Oh, God. Yep. Mrs. Yeah.
- 29:08Or just clamped. Yeah.
- 29:10The clamp. It says he's got three targets, but
- 29:13he got target three times.
- 29:14So yeah. But it was that I think about it's the wet football.
- 29:17Yeah. I mean, you're just looking generally for the stats.
- 29:20No one really.
- 29:21I didn't know Thursday night was a tough one to watch.
- 29:24I mean, you got eight targets, seven.
- 29:27I will say Kyron Williams, though, get yeah.
- 29:29108 yards. Yes.
- 29:31It's like twenty nine carries to get there. But
- 29:33I mean, he's he's now I think they ran him for like twenty
- 29:37seven, twenty times last week.
- 29:38So now it's workhorse.
- 29:39That's not it.
- 29:40It's not bad to be doing it this late in the season to ramp up
- 29:43for that playoff.
- 29:44No, I don't actually hate it this late.
- 29:46Early on the season, I hate running up carries for over 25.
- 29:50Yeah. Unless they're trying to come back from an injury
- 29:52and they need that. Exactly.
- 29:53You know what I mean?
- 29:54But this late in the season, I'm fine with it.
- 29:56You know what I mean? You're just instilling confidence
- 29:58in him. So and they're going to need them.
- 30:00Yeah. No, they're going to get twenty nine times.
- 30:02You're relying on your running.
- 30:04Yeah. I mean, with the weather in play, I don't think that was bad.
- 30:08Yeah. So it's like they kind of had to do it that much.
- 30:11I mean, you really Cooper Cyril catches.
- 30:14You have Puka. I mean, he's going to do him.
- 30:16I feel like every day starting to become you could almost use Puka
- 30:19almost not fully Debo fashion, but in that Debo role,
- 30:24more of that gadget player.
- 30:25But yeah, no, definitely.
- 30:27I wouldn't put him always in the backfield.
- 30:28But if you put him back there, what are they going to do?
- 30:31That's kind of scary. Yeah.
- 30:33Like twice or three times last year, they put JJ in the backfield.
- 30:36And it's like, whoa, whoa.
- 30:38You know what I mean? Like, you don't know what's going on.
- 30:39So they can use them in that sense or just sweeps.
- 30:42Yeah. I think he's excellent for that.
- 30:44And then next next place going deep, you know, so.
- 30:47Yeah, nice player to watch.
- 30:49So on the watch, you know, is raw like he's raw talent.
- 30:52He's not too fancy.
- 30:53He's going to run like a bland route, but he's going to get it.
- 30:57It doesn't matter.
- 30:58Like, yeah, he's going to catch the ball.
- 30:59Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:00Catch that. Yeah. Yeah.
- 31:02He don't drop the ball.
- 31:03No, he really does not.
- 31:06With that, Kev, that wraps our week 15 games.
- 31:09Let's head right into tent talk.
- 31:13Nine one one. What's your emergency?
- 31:24And to start off our injuries here, we kind of have a lot.
- 31:28Mahomes has a quote mild high ankle sprain.
- 31:31I mean, any high ankle sprain is tough, especially how he extends the play.
- 31:35So that's that's going to be interesting to kind of see.
- 31:39I wrote here injured kittens. Yeah.
- 31:43David Montgomery done for the season, torn MCO
- 31:47McNeil, Don A.C.L. talked about him.
- 31:49Carlton Davis out indefinitely.
- 31:50I saw later today that it was about six weeks with a fractured jaw.
- 31:54So the Lions have 18 players total on I.R. and 13 play defense.
- 32:01All right. Keep going. All right.
- 32:03Nick Chubb has a broken foot.
- 32:07You know, we were talking before he started recording.
- 32:09Maybe that should just be it.
- 32:10I think, I mean, it's me personally.
- 32:12I didn't battle through all that, man.
- 32:14It's more than life and football. Yeah.
- 32:16But, you know, a guy like him, you know, who's a stud.
- 32:21It's like and continues to be. Yeah.
- 32:22Yeah, exactly.
- 32:23So battle through it. But it's like, man, after this, I'll be like, yeah,
- 32:27I got to just worry about my health, you know, take a step back and
- 32:31start to enjoy life now.
- 32:32This is like you said, life after football. Yeah, exactly. For sure.
- 32:36Sam Hubbard, Bengals DN, PCL injury.
- 32:39He's ruled out for next week.
- 32:41He might return and imagine if they made a playoff run, if they lose next week,
- 32:45I'd imagine they would shut him down.
- 32:46Probably. Yeah.
- 32:47Trayvon digs to have surgery on his left knee.
- 32:50This kind of came out randomly.
- 32:52He's got like some weird fluid or cartilage issue going on.
- 32:55So apparently eight months to recover from that.
- 32:57So he's going to I.R.
- 32:59Jalen Waddle is questionable this week.
- 33:01He's having some issue with his knee.
- 33:03I couldn't find too much else on that.
- 33:05T.J. Watt, low ankle sprain. Yeah. He's been moving around.
- 33:09They're pretty confident he's going to play against Baltimore.
- 33:11I mean, huge game to know a game.
- 33:13You kind of you kind of need him for sure.
- 33:15So it's on Saturday this week, too. For sure.
- 33:17Yeah. We got a bunch of weird. Yeah.
- 33:19Yeah, I know. Holidays.
- 33:21Hopefully Netflix doesn't freak out.
- 33:23So nervous about those Netflix games.
- 33:26Just the show is Netflix. Just a stream.
- 33:29Streaming. Streaming.
- 33:31I'm so nervous about streaming.
- 33:33Again, not getting a sponsorship from Netflix.
- 33:36Gino Smith left the game with a knee injury.
- 33:38We mentioned him a little bit.
- 33:40McDonald came out and said the knee is structurally good.
- 33:43I mean, that's always a good sign.
- 33:45Sam Hall will probably be the starter if Gino can't go against the Vikes this week.
- 33:49I'll take that. It doesn't change my pick.
- 33:53Zach Ertz, Concussion Protocol, as well as Jeremy Chin for the commanders.
- 33:59Jeremy Chin, that's a big loss.
- 34:00Yeah, I think you can live without Zach Ertz, but Jeremy Chin, it just.
- 34:04Yeah. Yeah, that's not good.
- 34:06Derek Carr may be done for the season because of his hand.
- 34:10Shoot for New Orleans.
- 34:11I think they have three wins or something.
- 34:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:15Did they start off like foreign? Oh, yeah.
- 34:17They were like, yeah, no, yeah.
- 34:19They came out feeling themselves.
- 34:21Losing taste in hell is huge to them.
- 34:23He's a he plays every position.
- 34:25And they lost a lot of a definition.
- 34:27They lost every position.
- 34:29Long play quarterback. Sure.
- 34:30Yeah. A little bit of news here.
- 34:33Deontay Johnson, receiver for the Ravens, have mutually agreed
- 34:36to excuse the receiver from team activities after he had a one game suspension last week.
- 34:41I think that was a one game team suspension as well.
- 34:45Buder Baker. This came out like 20 minutes ago.
- 34:47Buder Baker, three year deal.
- 34:49Fifty four mil, 30 mil of that guaranteed.
- 34:52That's huge.
- 34:53With 18 being the average, you know, per year number,
- 34:57that's the third largest contract for an NFL safety.
- 35:00We were just talking last week.
- 35:01That's one of the only pieces Arizona has on defense.
- 35:04No, he's a he's a Harrison Smith.
- 35:06He's a Harrison. Oh, for sure.
- 35:07I love the way he plays. He's that dog.
- 35:09He's done. Yeah, I love the way he plays.
- 35:12Clyde Edwards Hilaire released by the Chiefs.
- 35:14Let's see. Odell.
- 35:16I was he playing for the Dolphins? Yeah, he was on the bench a lot.
- 35:20But yeah, I don't know if he was playing.
- 35:22He was watching. He was in a lot of watch.
- 35:23So Odell's released to try to go probably sign with another Super Bowl team
- 35:27to play one game, get a catch with the Super Bowl.
- 35:29Right. Yeah, I'm a four time Super Bowl.
- 35:32Right. Yeah.
- 35:34I think who could use him right now?
- 35:35Odell. Yeah.
- 35:36Whose receiver core is kind of banged up that he'd be a contender?
- 35:39I mean, the Chiefs. Yeah, I was going to say the Chiefs wouldn't be horrible.
- 35:43He just goes there and he just balls out.
- 35:45I mean, he probably would.
- 35:47But did the Chiefs want to attitude like him?
- 35:49Yeah, right.
- 35:51Yeah, I don't know.
- 35:52It'll be I don't know.
- 35:54Baltimore? They take no.
- 35:56Yeah, he was just with Baltimore.
- 35:58Yeah, they released him.
- 35:59Oh, what teams has he not released from?
- 36:02Comes back to the Rams.
- 36:03He goes back to Sean McVay.
- 36:05I mean, he won the Super Bowl there.
- 36:07That's not horrible. That wouldn't be too bad.
- 36:10Does Clyde Edwards Hilaire?
- 36:12No, I say they don't need that.
- 36:14I think they ever said we don't.
- 36:17Didn't you have an injury like a year and a half ago that he's just kind of
- 36:20fell off the map ever since?
- 36:21Yeah, he has.
- 36:22I think he's towards ACL again, like twice, because it was in that Rams game.
- 36:26You know, the Super Bowl and then at like half time.
- 36:28He was a late first round draft pick, early second.
- 36:31Yeah, because he was on Clemson.
- 36:33Yeah. No, LSU.
- 36:35That's right. Yep.
- 36:37But anyway, let's see.
- 36:39And then, of course, we have a race to the number one pick
- 36:42between the Giants, Raiders, Panthers and Patriots.
- 36:45Who wants Sador?
- 36:46Is that is that the bona fide number one overall pick?
- 36:50I think so.
- 36:51Like right now, we won't get super heavy.
- 36:52Yeah, we'll get into it this off season.
- 36:54If I go Giants and Raiders for sure, Panthers, no, Patriots, no.
- 36:58Yeah. So then either Sador and then or Kim Ward is probably one in two.
- 37:03Right. It's kind of how I'm looking at it, especially if the Giants
- 37:06and Raiders are there.
- 37:07And I think both teams would either. Yeah.
- 37:09Pick either or. Right. I'd definitely agree, too.
- 37:13So there's no other player you think that would go to or something instead of.
- 37:17I mean, there's that Carter out of Penn State that it looks real nice.
- 37:21And he's like the next Mike Parsons.
- 37:22He wears 11 and everything like that. Yeah.
- 37:26Trying to think who the other probably the fourth guy is.
- 37:29Travis Hunter got to be right there.
- 37:30Travis Hunter is up there.
- 37:32You know, it's whether he's a receiver or cornerback, you know,
- 37:35that's probably what teams are waiting.
- 37:36There's not a ton of rumors yet where he'll go.
- 37:39So and most people are talking that like me, Patrick Peterson
- 37:41or some other DBS are coming out and they say DBS, the spot where you should go.
- 37:46And then they'll throw them on packages on the offensive side.
- 37:48Yeah, for sure. Just like Deon did.
- 37:50Yeah, you might as well. It's just going to be a Deon.
- 37:52Why not?
- 37:53Exactly. They'll be playing 80 percent of all snaps or whatever.
- 37:56But yeah, at the NFL level.
- 37:58But yeah, you might as well throw them in or let them.
- 38:00No, I wouldn't even let them return a kick. That's too dangerous.
- 38:02I would I would make like a a package for him.
- 38:05Yeah, I think Kipers got him going to New England right now.
- 38:08That's not a bad.
- 38:09As a receiver, then? No.
- 38:12Well, I would I would.
- 38:13You think you should go DB?
- 38:15I personally think. Over receiver.
- 38:16Yeah. I mean, his his build is
- 38:20it's screaming defensive back, you know, I mean, like
- 38:24it's just got to really like weigh out your options, you know.
- 38:28I mean, like kind of like with the pump return.
- 38:30I mean, we got the gene return punts for Philly.
- 38:33I mean, and he starts. So it's like that's true.
- 38:36That's true. Yeah.
- 38:37It just makes me nervous.
- 38:38Yeah, I never do it in Madden because he always gets injured.
- 38:42Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 38:43So it's never my number one receiver.
- 38:45No, definitely. Yeah, definitely.
- 38:48But I feel like as far as Hunter, I mean, he can come in the league
- 38:52and make more of an impact playing DB. OK, fair enough.
- 38:55But it's also you're on the other side.
- 38:56You think you should go receive more for longevity?
- 38:58I just feel about longevity wise.
- 39:00I mean, yeah, for sure.
- 39:01Yeah, this body beat up and things like that. And I mean, just from what I saw,
- 39:04I guess I haven't watched enough defensive snaps and I need to maybe do that
- 39:07after the pod, you know, and catch a couple more.
- 39:09I mean, he's been winner now.
- 39:11He's been winner. Yeah, he's been.
- 39:13Yeah. And the more that we explain about it, that's definitely like you said,
- 39:16the definition of a Heisman winner is athlete, you know, play both sides.
- 39:2080 percent. It's tough. Yeah, that's a lot.
- 39:22And at a high level, too.
- 39:23You know what I'm saying?
- 39:24Getting two interceptions and still going on the other side.
- 39:27Come on, that's not. Yeah, it's not.
- 39:30It's not. It's definitely not. Congratulations, Travis.
- 39:32Yeah, good. Yeah. Congrats.
- 39:35With that, Kev, let's head into our bonehead move of the week.
- 39:49All right. All right.
- 39:50Of course, our bonehead move of the week.
- 39:52But before we get to it, I, of course, have always those couple
- 39:55honorable mentions.
- 39:56Who's he going to be? Now, this is kind of old.
- 39:58I didn't see I should have looked this up. Classic. Never do.
- 40:03But this was kind of old.
- 40:05Did you ever see the thing about Rashi Rice's mom
- 40:08stealing a package from some? Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah.
- 40:12While wearing Rice's jersey and it says and it says
- 40:16this is just say she's mama.
- 40:18Rice is my mom or something right there with his number.
- 40:22And she like kicks it out the way of the camera.
- 40:24And then the camera like follows her.
- 40:25She thought she kicked it all the way out the way and bends down.
- 40:27And you know what I mean? I'm not trying to put any.
- 40:29But I'm not trying to make fun of nobody. But come on.
- 40:32She wants that. That was like one of those old.
- 40:34What is it? Monday night that they used to do.
- 40:36Come on, man. Or middle of the. Oh, yeah.
- 40:38Oh, yeah. Come on.
- 40:40Monday night. Yeah.
- 40:42Anyway, I don't want to spend too much time on that.
- 40:44Another honorable mention that kind of bugged me a little bit.
- 40:47Chase Brown jumping into the Salvation Army.
- 40:50Ben Ben.
- 40:51You know, Zeke used to do it all the time. Right. Yeah. So.
- 40:54He got fined and he said, you know, I don't I don't quote.
- 40:59I don't make enough for this.
- 41:02So my thing is, is.
- 41:04A, did you not know about the fine?
- 41:07You know what I mean?
- 41:08What was the fine for? For jumping into the bin?
- 41:10You can't do that.
- 41:11Is that like using a prop? Yes. OK. Yeah. Correct.
- 41:14So it's like five grand or whatever. Right. Yeah.
- 41:16I mean, I don't. I don't.
- 41:17Go.
- 41:20He got. My thing is, is Zeke's been doing it forever.
- 41:24Yeah. They've also been fined.
- 41:26So my thing is, is like, I don't know.
- 41:28Is this is it dumb for me to like not blame the coaching staff?
- 41:31Like somebody tell the team as a whole, like, hey, we're going to Dallas.
- 41:36Don't jump in the Salvation Army pod if you score a touchdown, you know?
- 41:40Or and he also got unsportsmanlike for it.
- 41:42You know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't know.
- 41:44I thought that was interesting.
- 41:45You know, him coming out and saying like, oh, you know, but.
- 41:48I'm the opposite way. I'm like jumping that thing.
- 41:50Because he does.
- 41:51It puts eyes on the Salvation Army.
- 41:53For sure. The whole point of that being there.
- 41:55And then you got people that, you know, think that's disrespectful to jump
- 41:58into the thing. It's like, oh, my God.
- 42:00I've never viewed it that way when Zeke did it.
- 42:02I always thought it was hilarious.
- 42:04Yeah, it's just like.
- 42:04He really didn't get to do his full celebration.
- 42:06If you watch the video, they didn't even call it a touchdown until the end.
- 42:09Like he jumped in there and then they were like they called it no touchdown.
- 42:13And then he jumped out and then they're like touchdown.
- 42:15He didn't really get to do his real celebration.
- 42:17But so I wonder what's the total amount Zeke was getting?
- 42:20If he jumped in that that many times, five thousand.
- 42:22And in Dallas, who knows?
- 42:24I don't know. I don't know.
- 42:26That was his old kind of.
- 42:27Is Jerry Jones paying for that? You know, those fines?
- 42:30Right.
- 42:30Ah, just so that's me. I got it.
- 42:31Yeah.
- 42:33I think Zeke's paycheck was a little different than James Brown's.
- 42:35Yeah, that was a little different.
- 42:36Oh, it was. No, for sure it was. For sure it was.
- 42:39But the real bonehead, we've already said his name tonight, Davondre Campbell,
- 42:43refusing to play.
- 42:45Now, you know, as I made him bonehead, I was like 50 50 on it
- 42:50because the more I looked into it, you know, he started 12
- 42:54of the 13 games or whatever, while Dre Greenlaw, who got injured
- 42:56in the Super Bowl, you know, was rehabbing.
- 42:59So he was starting next to this two year man.
- 43:02What's the two year guy named D Winters?
- 43:05Devon, Dre Campbell comes back and they essentially start D Winters over
- 43:09Devon, Dre Campbell. You know what I mean?
- 43:10So I can't remember.
- 43:12I think D Winters went down first or something like that.
- 43:15No, I'm sorry.
- 43:16I think Dre Greenlaw went down in this game.
- 43:18Yeah, they asked.
- 43:19They asked Campbell to come in and he was like, you know, no, I'm not coming in.
- 43:23So some guy named Demetrius Flanagan Fowles
- 43:27like actually he replaced Winters.
- 43:29So they asked him to come in. No.
- 43:30So then D Winters went down.
- 43:32So then they come in again in the third quarter and he refused to play again.
- 43:36So that's when what's his name? John Lynch. Yeah. Yeah.
- 43:41All the coach, brother.
- 43:42They came from Lynch, actually.
- 43:44Comforts afterwards.
- 43:45No, during the game, Lynch told him to.
- 43:48OK. Like I need to be removed from the field type of deal.
- 43:51Like, I don't know what the exact wording was. Right. Yeah.
- 43:54And now today or yesterday, whatever came out that the team
- 43:57is suspending him for three games and today is lockers completely empty.
- 44:01He's so is he's done it for NFL career?
- 44:04Like who wants him in a locker room?
- 44:06I don't think he's done.
- 44:08He's definitely got to go get a self evaluation.
- 44:11Yeah, no, they're going to they're going to have him.
- 44:13Talk to a therapist or something.
- 44:15You got to go figure yourself out.
- 44:16You can't just be can't do that.
- 44:18They just they were just almost a Super Bowl contender.
- 44:20They were in the Super Bowl last year.
- 44:21Super Bowl coming in this season.
- 44:23Last year, they were in the Super Bowl.
- 44:24This year, their Super Bowl contender, Kyle Shannon,
- 44:26is not going to be dealing with that kind of guy.
- 44:28And you could tell George Kittle was his George was pissed.
- 44:32George was pissed.
- 44:33De'amador Lenore came out and said, for that quote, for that to happen
- 44:37this for me, it's been for that to happen.
- 44:39And him to do that, I just lost all respect.
- 44:41I'm a person that's going 110 percent every play.
- 44:44If I am hurt and the guy behind me is not backing me up
- 44:46and can't come in or don't want to go in, I just feel like he's a cancer
- 44:49to the team, which I mean, it's it's totally like that.
- 44:55Nick Bosa said, you know, quotes NFL in general also quote,
- 44:58I'm sure he's going to have a hard time finding somewhere else to go
- 45:01when you act like that.
- 45:02I mean, totally. I mean, yeah, that's the truth.
- 45:04But it's like I felt like from his perspective, it's more so like
- 45:09he felt he felt like it.
- 45:11It was I felt like it's a loyalty thing.
- 45:13Like you start a guy 12 games soon as a guy gets back from recovery.
- 45:17Boom, you just pop him in.
- 45:18You don't even work him in.
- 45:19Yeah. I mean, you're just like, oh, you're not starting.
- 45:21I mean, it's Dre Greenlaw. No.
- 45:23You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely can.
- 45:25But why did the winners then get the start over him?
- 45:28Or is he just that much better, though?
- 45:30You know what I mean?
- 45:30That's the case.
- 45:31De'Andre Campbell really the third option, you know, but you started
- 45:35and became second game. Yeah.
- 45:38I don't know. Is that a situation? Yeah.
- 45:40Yeah. Yeah.
- 45:43Yeah. And like.
- 45:45Is there more to that, though, than just of Andre Campbell's?
- 45:47I think it's more it has to be more situation.
- 45:50Is that why the whole morale seems down?
- 45:53There's other things going on.
- 45:54Yeah, I feel like it started.
- 45:55I mean, starting the season, Christian McCaffrey,
- 45:57you thought he was going to come back a week for week six, week seven.
- 46:00Yeah. Yeah.
- 46:01And then they had all those holdouts to start the season.
- 46:03So it was kind of started off on a whole rocky.
- 46:05They never had their full squad, you know, in the beginning, like, all right, guys,
- 46:09this is our window to make a Super Bowl run.
- 46:11Right. Because I think after this year.
- 46:13Yeah. Oh, there's a trouble.
- 46:15This was a year to to make another run.
- 46:17So, yeah.
- 46:18Then after that beginning, it's been the wrong direction the whole time.
- 46:23100 percent unreal with that, Kev.
- 46:25That was our bonehead move of the week.
- 46:45And with that, we are into our week 16 preview and picks.
- 46:51I did just want to cover the current standings.
- 46:53Just a little tidbit.
- 46:55Oofta Jake has gone back to back weeks at four and one.
- 47:00That's pretty impressive.
- 47:01Good work, Jacob.
- 47:02That is a skyrocketed skyrocketed him to second place overall,
- 47:07again, based on season one percentage.
- 47:09So good for you, Jake. Awesome. Good stuff.
- 47:12He took no, he's in second.
- 47:15Dan's been in first for a minute.
- 47:17You know, Dan, you know, Dan, you know, Dan's got a record.
- 47:20Daniel, Daniel, Daniel.
- 47:22Dan's looking at a twenty one and nine record right now.
- 47:26He went three and two last week, so that was an opportunity for us to catch up.
- 47:29But everybody, as you see, dang near went three and two.
- 47:32Yeah. So it was actually a game, you know, they're all very.
- 47:36Other than that box game, they're all competitive.
- 47:39Well, it was the Bucks Chargers game and the Rams Niners game
- 47:41that caught everybody up.
- 47:43Everybody almost had the first three games picked the exact same.
- 47:46And then those games are just such a wash.
- 47:49And we literally split in the middle. It was crazy. It was crazy.
- 47:52But so Dan in first right now, if you look on the right side there, Jake,
- 47:56taking second place, Tyler, not me, our Packer fan taking third right now.
- 48:01Rachel dropped a couple spots to fourth, but she's still holding strong.
- 48:05That girl, right?
- 48:05Trey dropped a spot to for to fifth. I'm sorry.
- 48:10Ben chilling right there at sixth.
- 48:11Rob gained a spot, moved up seventh by himself.
- 48:14No, no tie. No.
- 48:16Hey, Matt jumped two spots in eighth now.
- 48:19Smelsey dropped a spot moving on.
- 48:21Graham Graham jumped a spot as well.
- 48:24And Dom also jumped a spot at the moment.
- 48:26Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 48:29You see Cody down there.
- 48:31Cody didn't get give me his picks two weeks in a row, so he can't count.
- 48:34But he got me his picks this week.
- 48:36Cody's going to be right back in there.
- 48:37You're back, Cody. And if you back and if you look, he has a 700 win percentage.
- 48:41So right now he'd be up there with Dan.
- 48:43Oh, man. I mean, that's good.
- 48:44You're back. So, Dom, that would mean you'd be in 12.
- 48:46But and D'Angelo just doesn't qualify yet.
- 48:50He doesn't have 10 games played. So what you need is him to go away.
- 48:53Oh, and five this week.
- 48:55I don't think that's happening.
- 48:57I know. If he keeps picking the lions, we'll see him seven.
- 49:01Oh, shots.
- 49:04Oh, man. With that, our first game of the week.
- 49:08Minnesota traveling to Seattle.
- 49:12Rob. Oh, scuttle the ball, baby, on this one.
- 49:15Obviously, Seattle is a very difficult place for us to play.
- 49:18But historically, we do not play well against the 12th fan, I guess, or man
- 49:23or whatever you want to call it.
- 49:24But you know, maybe.
- 49:25But you know, maybe it's real nice with also Walker being out.
- 49:28I know. Charbonnet. Charbonnet.
- 49:33Has been looking nice at J.A.
- 49:35J.A. and as you know, it's been lighting it up in the slot.
- 49:39So they could give us a little difficulty on their receiver set wise.
- 49:42But with that was J.S.N.
- 49:45I was like doing the math with the letters.
- 49:47Yeah. I was like, wait a minute, Smith and Egman.
- 49:51So so scuttle the ball.
- 49:52Yeah, I think, you know, if we can just get up early on them,
- 49:57I think especially if Sam Howell is there as their starter,
- 50:00I think that'll give us a good opportunity for us,
- 50:03especially that defense and a lot of looks of the B flow.
- 50:06I don't know how we're going to handle all those types of looks.
- 50:09So and we're pretty healthy.
- 50:12Yeah. So on that aspect.
- 50:14Yeah. So yeah, I think we're I think we're
- 50:16if we get up early, I think we could pull away.
- 50:18Otherwise, if they can keep it close in that band, that place gets loud.
- 50:22You know, so I don't want to play within a one score game
- 50:26against them going into the fourth quarter. Absolutely.
- 50:28What if Sam Howell lights us up and then he's a Minnesota Viking next year?
- 50:32Anyway, she's every quarterback.
- 50:36I'm going Vikings, whatever.
- 50:38So, you know what I mean? Scuttle the ball.
- 50:39We already know we're making a run for that one seat.
- 50:42Oh, yes. And we're going to go and what's up.
- 50:44Scuttle the ball.
- 50:44I mean, we're going to keep the cork on Chardonnay this week, unfortunately.
- 50:47But that's just how I feel.
- 50:49I mean, they got a good team.
- 50:51But without Geno Smith, that's going to be a tough game for the Seahawks against us.
- 50:55I mean, Mattel is going to be all over all over them.
- 50:58I mean, that's how I feel. B flows. Did you see?
- 51:00Well, no, you were at the game.
- 51:01They put up the thing on the broadcast, all the positions he's played.
- 51:05He's played. Yeah, he's a stud.
- 51:09He's he's a good he's a good second for twice.
- 51:13With Harris Smith on the way out.
- 51:14It's good to have Mattel's there, you know, for sure,
- 51:16because he just replicates what Harrison Smith did for so many seasons for us.
- 51:21So, yes, go the ball.
- 51:22As long as he's not flipping his hips the wrong way.
- 51:24Yeah. We still remember that.
- 51:26Who we got. Yeah.
- 51:27Oh, I'm a I'm a lean towards Minnesota for sure.
- 51:30Of course. Seattle's beat up at the quarterback position.
- 51:33That's going to be tough.
- 51:34I mean, you throw how in there with the vikes.
- 51:38Throwing them into the floor has fight.
- 51:39Yeah, I'm not expecting much out of out of them as far as that.
- 51:44I mean, if Gino plays, does it change it at all for you?
- 51:46Not for sure.
- 51:47It's going to be closer than I mean, I still I'm going to head it off to
- 51:52the vikes because, you know, they're in sync right now.
- 51:54Well, yes. Yeah.
- 51:57He's so he's trying to get you.
- 51:59I'm just kidding.
- 52:00He almost got instead.
- 52:03He's like, for sure.
- 52:04But, yeah, no, I definitely tip it off to the vikes.
- 52:07I mean, you got too many weapons on offense for the Seahawks defense.
- 52:11Nobody's going to cover J.J. and one on one coverage.
- 52:14Addison even or Hawk, you know, I mean, Hawk's been
- 52:17he's been out sending for the Vikings lately.
- 52:20I mean, they missed a lot when he was gone.
- 52:22But, yeah, I'm definitely going to tip my hats to the Vikings.
- 52:26For sure. For sure.
- 52:27No doubt. Skull, baby. Skull.
- 52:30All the picks I have so far, I might have even just got my final picks in here.
- 52:34And let me just real quick takes two seconds.
- 52:36Who took the Seahawks?
- 52:37Yeah, so everybody took Minnesota.
- 52:39All right. Everyone's on the train.
- 52:41I like it. The next game, New Orleans traveling to Green Bay.
- 52:44We don't need to spend a lot of time on this.
- 52:46Everybody is taking Green Bay.
- 52:48I'm included. DeAngelo, who do you have in this game?
- 52:51For sure. Green Bay.
- 52:53Just not even. Not even.
- 52:55Rob, thinking about it.
- 52:57No, I mean, I was trying to think.
- 53:00I was like, how bad it's going to be.
- 53:02I mean, and some Monday night game soon.
- 53:03Yeah. Yeah, I really wish they'd flex this thing out of there somewhere else.
- 53:07If they didn't like just draw in Rattler, then who's the other guy?
- 53:15Starts with an H.
- 53:16Yeah, I just.
- 53:18It's not. Not.
- 53:19Either way. Yeah.
- 53:21All right. Yeah.
- 53:22The fact that we're taking out.
- 53:23Yeah. I mean, other than Kamara.
- 53:25Other than Kamara on offense. Yeah.
- 53:27That guy. Yeah.
- 53:29That guy. That guy. Yeah.
- 53:30I mean, there's not much left on the plate over there.
- 53:32Their defense still has got a couple of guys, you know, but
- 53:35it's time to rebuild.
- 53:37Yeah. Yeah. And it's going to be called.
- 53:39I don't think the Saints are already.
- 53:40So they're.
- 53:43So they're willing to try to upset the Green Bay Packers season.
- 53:47No, that'd be great for us, but I don't.
- 53:49This is not going to happen.
- 53:50Everybody here at Banter has taken the Packers.
- 53:53So moving on to the third game, Denver Broncos traveling to the L.A.
- 53:58Chargers so far.
- 54:00Jake and Matt have taken the Broncos and everyone else has taken
- 54:05the Chargers. Really interesting.
- 54:07That's interesting.
- 54:08Let's see. I think I started the Packers.
- 54:10That one doesn't count. So I'll start this one.
- 54:12I'm taking the Broncos over the Chargers. Over your team. Yep.
- 54:16It's the first time I've picked against any of my teams this year, by the way.
- 54:18Just so you know.
- 54:19But again, that that game, that last game, it's just I mean,
- 54:24this will be a good preview against a playoff team in Denver.
- 54:27But I just I don't think it's going to go well for the Chargers at all.
- 54:30I think Bo Nix is playing well right now.
- 54:33Again, there's no there's just no rhythm to that offense for me.
- 54:38And I mean, at least they're in L.A., I guess.
- 54:41But it's not that far from Denver.
- 54:43So I think it's I don't know. I say Denver.
- 54:46I think it'll be a somewhat good game.
- 54:48But I say Denver probably by two scores, to be honest.
- 54:50Two scores. I mean, I'm generally going on that path, too.
- 54:54I think Denver is playing pretty good ball right now.
- 54:56On defensively, they've they've kind of they've competed.
- 55:00Like you said, the Chargers have no running game,
- 55:02and I don't think they're going to be able to last long enough for four quarters
- 55:05with not being able to stop running unless something changes.
- 55:09Yeah. I mean, they can have a great game.
- 55:11Berkin, the Conkley's been playing well, like you're saying.
- 55:14I mean, they are.
- 55:15Oh, they what?
- 55:15Twenty three plays in the second half against the Bucks.
- 55:18You know, it's not enough.
- 55:19I just don't think there's that sealed their season for me personally.
- 55:22The Chargers. Yeah, that's just that was against the playoff team, too.
- 55:25And that's just not. Yeah. Yeah.
- 55:27Don't get me started. Yeah.
- 55:29So you're you're going Broncos here. Broncos. OK.
- 55:32Dom, what we got. Yeah.
- 55:33I mean, I'm going to go to the Broncos, too. I like Bo Nicks.
- 55:36He was getting a lot of flack coming in this season.
- 55:38A lot of flack.
- 55:40They were saying, you know, I think he was like the number four ranked
- 55:43coming for like preseason, like out of the rookie corebacks.
- 55:46Or five, six. Yeah.
- 55:47He wasn't he wasn't in the top, you know, one or two.
- 55:51I feel like he's number two right behind Jaden Daniels.
- 55:53You know, that's just how I feel this season.
- 55:55Out of the current rookie class. Yeah, yeah.
- 55:57I agree. Yeah, I agree.
- 55:58I say he's number two.
- 55:59You know what I'm saying? Just how he's playing, putting his team
- 56:02in the matter to go to the playoffs.
- 56:03Caleb Williams not doing that.
- 56:04No, I understand.
- 56:06It's a little bit different situation over there.
- 56:08But at the same time, you got to step up and play a quarterback.
- 56:10Exactly. You know what I'm saying?
- 56:11So I mean, I'm going to go with the Broncos this week.
- 56:12Bo Nicks is looking like a good quarterback.
- 56:15So, yeah, yeah.
- 56:17He's got to prove everyone wrong because they were honestly in Oregon.
- 56:19He's like, oh, he throws a short bubble screens, you know,
- 56:22and that's all he throws.
- 56:23Everything's, you know, not even the cannon.
- 56:25Yeah, you know, he definitely can.
- 56:27You know, he's been bouncing around from top end schools
- 56:30throughout the nation at college.
- 56:31So obviously everybody wants him.
- 56:33You know, what was he before Ole Miss?
- 56:35Was he down in not Clemson or Georgia or somewhere?
- 56:38He's an Auburn Auburn Auburn.
- 56:40Yeah, Auburn.
- 56:41No, but yeah, D'Angelo Denver at the Chargers here.
- 56:45Oh, I'm going with Denver.
- 56:47Yeah, I'm liking Bo Nicks lately.
- 56:49He's he's been shown out a lot.
- 56:51I mean, he's been opening a lot of people's eyes considering,
- 56:55you know, the beginning of the season, they were they weren't doing much.
- 56:59But yeah, since they put all their trust into Nicks,
- 57:04I feel like he's been backing it up.
- 57:06So it's like, I mean, their defense, like Rob said,
- 57:09he they've they've been playing pretty good.
- 57:12And, you know, the Chargers, they're kind of in shambles right now.
- 57:14So, I mean, Herbert, he can still go off, but I feel like they can still lose.
- 57:18That's what I mean.
- 57:19I mean, they're an eight win team, but it's like they're an eight win.
- 57:22Yeah, it's not like a solid.
- 57:24Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 57:25So I mean, what if they get up by two touchdowns?
- 57:27What do they do? Continue throwing the ball.
- 57:29They can't run the ball. Yeah.
- 57:30Is that the Chargers? Yeah.
- 57:32I good question.
- 57:34We'll find out. Well, never been the lead.
- 57:36I won't. I want my pick to be wrong on that one.
- 57:39OK, all right.
- 57:40I'll go with the Saints Packers game.
- 57:42I want to be wrong.
- 57:44Perfect.
- 57:47Sounds like a deal.
- 57:48Anyway, Steelers traveling to the Ravens.
- 57:51I mean, this is a big game.
- 57:53Game of the week.
- 57:53Oh, the division.
- 57:55I don't think the division's on the line this game, but it's definitely a factor.
- 57:59It's a lot of pride on the line.
- 58:00You know, yeah.
- 58:01But you still want to win the division instead of being that fifth
- 58:03seed in the play out, you know, so it's it's a big game.
- 58:07I can't believe Jacob picked the Steelers.
- 58:09Jake picked the Ravens, by the way.
- 58:12Matt right now is the only one to pick the Steelers at the moment.
- 58:15And Ravens at home, by the way.
- 58:19Oh, I could pull up.
- 58:20They played earlier this year, didn't they?
- 58:21Yeah. Yep. Yep. For sure.
- 58:22Still a snuck away.
- 58:24For sure. I go away on it.
- 58:25D'Angelo, who do we got?
- 58:28I was kind of iffy in between this game.
- 58:29This one is like next two games will be tougher.
- 58:32Yeah, it's like, man, every time I put my faith in Lamar sometimes,
- 58:36it's like he just when's he going to flip the script, though?
- 58:40This week, I take that back.
- 58:42It has not been Lamar.
- 58:43It's been a Ravens defense.
- 58:44They can't hold it together like they give away those little plays.
- 58:48You know, you can these 15 yard penalties.
- 58:50You know, a lot of penalties.
- 58:51Yes, a lot of penalties.
- 58:53So let me let me give you the injuries.
- 58:55Aguilar's questionable.
- 58:57Ardarius Smith, questionable safety.
- 58:59Jalen Armour Davis, corners questionable
- 59:03safety. Last name Kane.
- 59:05I'm not going to pronounce his first name. I'll butcher it.
- 59:07Addisa Isaac, linebacker questionable.
- 59:11Hmm. A little beat up.
- 59:12Yeah. Oh, everyone's beat up.
- 59:14Yeah. Other than the Vikings.
- 59:16Let me just check.
- 59:17Let me just check the Steelers for you real quick, and we'll get your official.
- 59:20OK. Official official.
- 59:21Justin Fields. Yeah. T.J.
- 59:22Watt, questionable. We know that Dante Jackson corner.
- 59:25He's questionable. George picks it.
- 59:27George Pickens is still questionable.
- 59:29Non participant today.
- 59:32What's going on with that?
- 59:33I'm not sure. Yeah.
- 59:33His hamstring, it's a hamstring.
- 59:36He was jumping around, though.
- 59:37I was like, oh, but maybe he re aggravated, though.
- 59:39You know what I mean?
- 59:40He would strike me as a type that would be excited to give back.
- 59:43Yeah. Field and then re aggravate.
- 59:44Be like, yeah, he's a little bummer.
- 59:48I mean, that's tough if they don't have him or T.J.
- 59:51Yeah, I'm going Ravens all the way.
- 59:54That's like I feel like we can't flip it.
- 59:56No, no, no. OK. Right now.
- 59:58Well, if there is, you know, you need to make sure you flip it.
- 1:00:02Middle of the week. No, but I definitely.
- 1:00:05OK, I'll go with the Raiders because I mean, what?
- 1:00:09Dude, he's a stud.
- 1:00:10We all know that.
- 1:00:11Like if he's playing against any team, you always got to,
- 1:00:14you know, build your scheme around him.
- 1:00:16So it's like if he plays, that's a different story.
- 1:00:18You see what happened last game when they played the Ravens.
- 1:00:20So it's like if he's out.
- 1:00:22Yeah. Ravens Ravens should at least went by a teddy.
- 1:00:25I mean, I feel like the Steelers showed me a lot last week against Philly.
- 1:00:29I was honestly expecting that game to be closer.
- 1:00:32But once again, Najee Harris, you don't show up.
- 1:00:35You're fumbling the ball 30 yard line.
- 1:00:38So it's like, man, come on, dog.
- 1:00:39I personally, after this season, I think I might drift away from Najee.
- 1:00:44Oh, I mean, there's like you can't tell me that, you know,
- 1:00:50you got Jalen coming in, doing pretty much the same stuff.
- 1:00:52You know, not better.
- 1:00:53He's a scat man.
- 1:00:54And he's like, Najee's not looking up to par.
- 1:00:57Like you're not you're not looking fast.
- 1:00:59You're not looking confident.
- 1:01:01He just needs to be that that number two back that comes in
- 1:01:04maybe on like third and goal from the one. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:01:07Yeah, somebody to buy. Yeah, I mean, granted.
- 1:01:09But it's like, man, I would I honestly would be fishing around the market
- 1:01:13for another stud back because it's like he's not he's not doing it, dude.
- 1:01:17There's no way. Yeah.
- 1:01:19No, I was just going to say it again this year with the performance of Saquon
- 1:01:23and Derrick Henry and, you know, I get at the college level of gente.
- 1:01:26You know, just showing you the value of the running back. Exactly.
- 1:01:29They're running back. Yeah.
- 1:01:30You still need it. Yes, you do.
- 1:01:32No, definitely. Pass heavy game.
- 1:01:34Not even the league, a pass heavy game.
- 1:01:36You know, you're still seeing that the running game needs to come back.
- 1:01:39Exactly. And it's like Warren, you're you're passing the ball to him, too.
- 1:01:43And it's like, yeah, it's like, not you, man.
- 1:01:45I don't know, dude. He's it's like I was a huge fan.
- 1:01:48You know, when he was at Alabama, he came out.
- 1:01:51Everybody. Yeah. I mean, but like you couldn't do with the stuff.
- 1:01:54Like, you know, you can shake it.
- 1:01:56But it's like lately, he's been just he's just not up to par for me.
- 1:02:01As far as like if I'm telling, I'm like, I mean, dude,
- 1:02:04that was that fumble changed the whole momentum of the game.
- 1:02:08They were driving down.
- 1:02:09What was it? 1320.
- 1:02:11It would have been a tight game if they would have scored.
- 1:02:14And then after that, you don't get no more points.
- 1:02:16What was that like his first fumble, though, in like a couple of years?
- 1:02:19What? I don't know about that.
- 1:02:22I felt like I heard that, but I may be wrong.
- 1:02:24I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't.
- 1:02:26I think he honestly fumbled earlier this season, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:02:29You may be right. You could. Yeah.
- 1:02:31I do. I thought I heard that for a second that I was like,
- 1:02:34what in a year can be true?
- 1:02:36What's that? Is it true?
- 1:02:38What? When did this when did this get wrote? Written? Wrote?
- 1:02:44Najee Harris loses first career fumble after 392.
- 1:02:47You touch it. Wow.
- 1:02:49That's intense. That can't be.
- 1:02:51No, it's that.
- 1:02:53I was right. Once again, I have to come on.
- 1:02:56Come on now.
- 1:02:57That's why I'm going to not hear and the Steelers in this game against Raven.
- 1:03:01And I think they will establish a game against the Ravens defense.
- 1:03:05And I really want T.J. Watt to be back because I think definitely he
- 1:03:10if he's back, I think they win.
- 1:03:13I think they're going to win anyways, but I have to pick them.
- 1:03:15But T.J. Watch just because that Ravens right side of the line
- 1:03:18has been struggling all year.
- 1:03:20Yeah, that Dan Flour, the left tackle, right tackle, right guard.
- 1:03:25Because they lost three starters.
- 1:03:26We talked about that earlier in the year.
- 1:03:28And that's kind of been their kill is heal a little bit right now.
- 1:03:33You get a little pressure on Lamar and Steelers play attacking.
- 1:03:36You know, they do.
- 1:03:37My common is put that style defenses.
- 1:03:40I mean, that's why they beat the Ravens earlier this year.
- 1:03:42No, for sure. So I'm going Steelers on Steelers.
- 1:03:45Even without one.
- 1:03:47He's questionable. He's just questionable.
- 1:03:48Oh, they still got me.
- 1:03:50I feel like if Watt doesn't play, they're going to pound the ball.
- 1:03:53I want my guy on. He'll play.
- 1:03:55It's a big game. Yeah.
- 1:03:57I don't know. But I don't know.
- 1:03:58He's tough. I'd rather have him for the playoffs.
- 1:04:00Oh, for sure. Which like what was it?
- 1:04:02Was it last year he went down for the season or the two years ago?
- 1:04:05And they went to the playoffs and they were T.J. Wattless. Yeah.
- 1:04:08So that's a major change.
- 1:04:11So it's like you got to think about that a little bit.
- 1:04:13Yeah. Would you rather?
- 1:04:15Dom, who we got?
- 1:04:18Dunno. Dunno.
- 1:04:19All right, Rob, let's try to get this one.
- 1:04:21Yeah, buddy.
- 1:04:22Terrible times, terrible times.
- 1:04:24This is the wrong terrible tile.
- 1:04:25This is the Vikings top of terrible tiles this week.
- 1:04:28I think Najee Harris is going to have a bounce back week.
- 1:04:30I've seen it time and time again with the Vikes.
- 1:04:32Aaron Jones had a couple of fumbles here and there.
- 1:04:36Just got to put that rock in your rock in the upper chest all week
- 1:04:40and walk around with it like a baby.
- 1:04:42Yeah. You know, get back to the old days.
- 1:04:45Simplicity back to basics.
- 1:04:47I can see it high and tight.
- 1:04:49He's shuffle touchdown this week. So
- 1:04:52and hopefully George Pickens comes back.
- 1:04:55I mean, I'm hoping George Pickens can come back because he's big.
- 1:04:58I know that hamstring is just really big with wide receivers.
- 1:05:00I saw it with just last forever.
- 1:05:02Yeah, we saw with Justin Jefferson.
- 1:05:04He was like, oh, he'll be back in two weeks.
- 1:05:05Unless you're Mike Evans.
- 1:05:08I mean, once you tweak it again, it's like he's just adding on.
- 1:05:12If you can't run your route right, then why?
- 1:05:14Yeah, it's not. No, it's going to lead to a pick or something.
- 1:05:17Right. So, yeah, I'm going Steelers as well.
- 1:05:19But it's it's more for Russell Wilson.
- 1:05:23I think I think.
- 1:05:25Yeah, let's rock.
- 1:05:27I was so corny.
- 1:05:28So let's ride.
- 1:05:30Did you ever see it? The Broncos? Let's ride.
- 1:05:32Oh, yeah, that was corny.
- 1:05:34It's the most Russell Wilson thing ever.
- 1:05:35But anyway, no, I think he
- 1:05:38I think his team's starting to buy into him a little bit more than they did
- 1:05:41maybe when he first got there because of the narrative
- 1:05:44that was going on about Russell Wilson anyway.
- 1:05:46So I think I don't know, man.
- 1:05:48I think the Steelers are actually scary to come out of the AFC
- 1:05:52and go to the AFC championship.
- 1:05:53But they are, I think.
- 1:05:55And I feel rips my heart out.
- 1:05:57I feel similar to Philly, too, because both the Steelers and Philly
- 1:06:01kind of flip their seasons around like they were.
- 1:06:03They were horrible, but they were not going well.
- 1:06:06They're a little.
- 1:06:06And also, you got hot.
- 1:06:08And I don't I don't know.
- 1:06:09I'm feeling the Steelers on this.
- 1:06:11I think it's going to be I think it's going to be a great game.
- 1:06:13Those can be really close.
- 1:06:15What night is that one on?
- 1:06:17I think that's Thursday. No, no, no.
- 1:06:19That's Sunday. No, Saturday.
- 1:06:21Yeah. Oh, Saturday.
- 1:06:23You guys can check out the technical.
- 1:06:25Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:06:26Well, you don't know what day it is.
- 1:06:28So it's just this 12. No, no, it's down there.
- 1:06:30Come down. All right.
- 1:06:33All right. All right.
- 1:06:34Last game, Philly at Washington.
- 1:06:38Another another toss up, right? Kind of.
- 1:06:41Yeah. But the way Philly's been balling, man.
- 1:06:44I mean, coming off.
- 1:06:45I'll wait to my turn, but I'm sorry, not coming off.
- 1:06:48I want my time.
- 1:06:50I've win.
- 1:06:52Oh, teams. Yeah. Right. Right.
- 1:06:56I will. I'm leaning towards Philly.
- 1:06:58I mean, hurts. He got it together last game.
- 1:07:00He passed the ball more.
- 1:07:02He definitely looked way more comfortable.
- 1:07:03And I was shocked. I was like, OK, he's getting a little scary.
- 1:07:07But that's the thing.
- 1:07:07It's like you really can't count hurts out in the run game or passing game.
- 1:07:12It's like when you think he's not going to pass it.
- 1:07:14Oh, he's going to he's going to chuck it because I mean, you got
- 1:07:16he's got a team to a Super Bowl.
- 1:07:17Yeah, exactly. He knows what it takes.
- 1:07:19Yeah, he definitely knows what it takes.
- 1:07:21And he's a leader. He's confident in what he does.
- 1:07:23I feel like he he like I've never seen him
- 1:07:27like question his ability as far as what I've saw lately.
- 1:07:31Lately, lately, maybe last year.
- 1:07:33A.J. Brown is questioning his ability.
- 1:07:35No, no. Yeah, that's what I said lately.
- 1:07:39I feel like they've definitely been more in sync
- 1:07:42with him and the white out course.
- 1:07:43So it's like you got A.J. Brown, you know, he's a stud.
- 1:07:46You got Smith. He's a stud.
- 1:07:48You got the tight end.
- 1:07:50What's I can't say not hers.
- 1:07:52That hurt. No, no, no.
- 1:07:55Got it. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:56Got it. I mean, Goddard, Goddard, whatever.
- 1:07:59But no, yeah, he's a boy.
- 1:08:01Yeah, I like him a lot.
- 1:08:03And then you got, of course, the Kwan.
- 1:08:04So it's like sequence tough. Yeah.
- 1:08:07He's he's MVP.
- 1:08:09We're sure. Yeah.
- 1:08:10I mean, if there wasn't a push touch, he'd be MVP.
- 1:08:13Yeah, he should have.
- 1:08:14Well, I'm that's 11 touchdowns that Hearst has this year
- 1:08:17that let's say we split it in half.
- 1:08:19They talk about fantasy all the time.
- 1:08:21Jalen Hearst is like the biggest touchdown stealer.
- 1:08:25Hands down, get them all the way down to the goal line.
- 1:08:30I'm in there.
- 1:08:31No, for sure. Dom. Dom.
- 1:08:33What we got?
- 1:08:35I mean, the Eagles definitely got that narrative out the way.
- 1:08:38Him and A.J. Brown, they were they were forced.
- 1:08:41Figured out force feeding A.J. Brown first.
- 1:08:44First couple of drives.
- 1:08:46But you guys know I love Jaden Daniels.
- 1:08:48I know I came on the first part.
- 1:08:51I was I'm not a mess about his name, Jaden Daniels.
- 1:08:54But that's my guy.
- 1:08:55And this week, I'm going to go Jaden Daniels again.
- 1:08:58Even if they take a loss, I'm still just going to ride
- 1:09:00because why not?
- 1:09:00Commanders are just a fun story.
- 1:09:03You know, they are.
- 1:09:04The Lions and the commanders are two teams.
- 1:09:06I'm very happy that are successful, even though the Lions are in our
- 1:09:08conference in our division.
- 1:09:10I'm still happy that they're finally getting success
- 1:09:13in their organization with all the stuff that they had to deal with in past season.
- 1:09:17So, yes, Gary Terry.
- 1:09:18We got Jaden Daniels and that defense looking nice, too.
- 1:09:22Yeah, no. You know, so.
- 1:09:24Yes and no.
- 1:09:26Yes and no.
- 1:09:27So my biggest thing with this game is I'm picking Philly.
- 1:09:30And I really wanted to pick Washington. I really did.
- 1:09:33I did, too.
- 1:09:34I'm extremely concerned about Washington's run defense against Saquon.
- 1:09:38I think that I mean, if Saquon's going to have himself a game,
- 1:09:41it's going to be this one.
- 1:09:43It'd be fun.
- 1:09:43I hope Washington wins because it's better for Detroit and Minnesota both.
- 1:09:48Right.
- 1:09:48So I don't think they will get the one seat.
- 1:09:51I think it will be Detroit or Minnesota personally. But.
- 1:09:55You know, yeah, of course.
- 1:09:57But but no, I just got to go Philly.
- 1:10:00I yeah, it's Saquon verse their their rush defense for me, I think, is
- 1:10:04is the factors.
- 1:10:05I understand. I understand.
- 1:10:07I'm going Philly because I think actually the commanders are going to lose out.
- 1:10:11They got Eagles, Falcons, the Cowboys at Cowboys.
- 1:10:15And I think that there might be slipping out of the playoffs.
- 1:10:19That's all three miss the playoffs.
- 1:10:20There's a good chance.
- 1:10:21I mean, they need some things.
- 1:10:24Other teams, so, you know, but I feel like they might lose out.
- 1:10:28Probably one and two for sure.
- 1:10:30It all depends on what the cowboys coming to the cowboys.
- 1:10:32Well, the Cowboys seem which Cowboys team shows up
- 1:10:35because their season's already kind of done, so they might have nothing to play for.
- 1:10:39But which is when you drop games, though. True.
- 1:10:41When you play a team that's got nothing to play for. Yeah.
- 1:10:43Yeah. They play loose.
- 1:10:45Yeah. Like you never know.
- 1:10:47Cooper Rush might be next starting quarterback in Dallas.
- 1:10:50So but one concern, though, I do not like Cooper Rush.
- 1:10:54Barkley tweaked got hurt in the second quarter.
- 1:10:58They pretty much shut him down the whole second quarter. Yeah.
- 1:11:00So they kind of want to get back in, though.
- 1:11:03He did coming back in, but you know, maybe some
- 1:11:06some pharmaceuticals might have helped that.
- 1:11:08But that's a price possession.
- 1:11:10You got to take care of that thing. No. Yeah.
- 1:11:12I think he's challenging the Ferrari now.
- 1:11:14I feel Scott this one.
- 1:11:16I'm going Philly.
- 1:11:17Throwing out this going Philly, going Philly.
- 1:11:21That wraps our week 16 preview and picks.
- 1:11:24We did have an honorable mention game just Houston at Kansas City.
- 1:11:28This will not count towards here.
- 1:11:31Who's winning that game?
- 1:11:32Chiefs could clinch the number one seed here with a win and a Buffalo loss.
- 1:11:36I don't know who Buffalo plays this week.
- 1:11:38It's I think it's a pipsqueak, but I can't remember.
- 1:11:40I'd go Houston just I think Nico Collins and Strahl
- 1:11:44are they're starting to get a little bit that defense on that.
- 1:11:48They're probably one of the better defense lines in football.
- 1:11:51Hunter and Will Smith on the other side.
- 1:11:53Sure, sure. You know, Anderson, well, I was in it.
- 1:11:55So about the new hunter.
- 1:11:58So yeah, I would I would pick the Scroggs on that one.
- 1:12:03Interesting, interesting.
- 1:12:04I think it's chiefs.
- 1:12:05They probably lock up the number one seed.
- 1:12:08Buffalo Scrappy, though, they're getting they're getting there.
- 1:12:10Like we've already talked about.
- 1:12:11Buffalo is a whole field scrap.
- 1:12:12You don't get one for sure.
- 1:12:14But their team is a whole field Scrappy and like maybe this is their year
- 1:12:17finally to knock Kansas City out the playoffs and make a real run for once.
- 1:12:22You know what I mean? But I don't know.
- 1:12:24I'm leaning Kansas City here at Arrowhead. That's tough.
- 1:12:26Yeah, that is tough.
- 1:12:28I'm going to take.
- 1:12:30I mean, it doesn't count. So let's take Houston.
- 1:12:33Yeah, I got Neagle Collins on fancy football.
- 1:12:37So I got Neagle Collins. I got Tankdale.
- 1:12:40And Joe Mixon is back. Joe Mixon. He's a solid back to me.
- 1:12:44So Houston with their full squad is no, no.
- 1:12:46Yeah, no, they're no joke.
- 1:12:48They're no joke. Yeah, they're definitely no joke.
- 1:12:51Well, it's looking like Patty is playing.
- 1:12:54So I'm I hate Pat Magic, man.
- 1:12:57Yeah, it's real chiefs.
- 1:12:59And that's another thing like when it comes playoff.
- 1:13:02It's hard to play against you.
- 1:13:03You cannot ever count this dude out.
- 1:13:06He made he's a magician, man.
- 1:13:07And it's like as good as Allen is playing.
- 1:13:09Yeah, here comes here comes Patrick.
- 1:13:12Yeah, he's like I'm telling you, he's becoming the Tom Brady of our generation.
- 1:13:16It's like as much as, you know, you see, Brady has these like if he seasons.
- 1:13:21This is Brady. Yeah, he's known for winning.
- 1:13:23Like when someone is known for winning, they're going to do whatever they take.
- 1:13:27So when then it's like it's going to make the other quarterback like kind of,
- 1:13:30you know, hesitant to be, you know, do a lot of things.
- 1:13:33Yeah, I've seen it.
- 1:13:34No, exactly. Josh Allen has gone into that shell.
- 1:13:38Yeah. You know, that first time they met in the playoffs, I was insane.
- 1:13:40Yeah, no, I wouldn't.
- 1:13:41I wouldn't say Josh Allen fell into a shell.
- 1:13:43That was just over time being over time. Right.
- 1:13:45Yeah. But since then, yeah, it seems like it changed.
- 1:13:48And that game changed the rules.
- 1:13:50But Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.
- 1:13:51I mean, you've seen other quarterbacks fall into that for sure.
- 1:13:55Who do you got? I said Kansas City.
- 1:13:57Oh, did you? Yeah.
- 1:13:59Yeah. Arrowhead. This is.
- 1:14:00Yeah, that's what I said. That vibe there is I've never been there.
- 1:14:03Oh, I have a ton of.
- 1:14:04Yeah, I've heard it's awesome.
- 1:14:06Like, I'd love to get there.
- 1:14:06It's only what? Six hours from here.
- 1:14:08So road trip.
- 1:14:09And they're Midwest nights to a center.
- 1:14:10It's not like walking to the filling and battery thrown at you.
- 1:14:14I also think weather's going to play a piece.
- 1:14:16You know, Houston. Yeah, they don't know how to play.
- 1:14:19Yeah, exactly. In Kansas City, too.
- 1:14:21Yeah. CJ Straub play Ohio State is not like you don't know how to play outside.
- 1:14:24Oh, no. Yeah, it's true.
- 1:14:25It's true. Yeah, true.
- 1:14:27And next thing you got him coming from Sensi, too.
- 1:14:29So it's like. And they got.
- 1:14:31Oh, yeah. Yeah. Nico Collins. Yeah.
- 1:14:33All right. Interesting. Yeah. Good point.
- 1:14:35You know, it's going to be a defense. It don't count.
- 1:14:36So it doesn't matter.
- 1:14:37Well, I understand. He's from Bama. Yeah.
- 1:14:40Where did Hunt?
- 1:14:41I mean, yeah, he can go.
- 1:14:42Yeah, but yeah, anyways.
- 1:14:44But yeah, anyways, yeah.
- 1:14:46But I mean, yeah, it definitely is definitely hard to knock off KC at home.
- 1:14:50At home. I know that.
- 1:14:52Well, D'Angelo, appreciate you being on the pod this week.
- 1:14:55Yeah, man. Thank you much, sir.
- 1:14:57Again, the first Lions fan ever.
- 1:14:59So that was that was really awesome for us to hear your takes.
- 1:15:02Yeah.
- 1:15:03First time it's been worthy to have one.
- 1:15:06No, dude.
- 1:15:07They were last season.
- 1:15:08Arguably, we could have had one, too.
- 1:15:10But we had no runs over.
- 1:15:12We've had we've had 12 guests.
- 1:15:15Oh, wow. Yeah.
- 1:15:16Dom, again, thanks for being here.
- 1:15:17Appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all this week.
- 1:15:19Yeah, buddy.
- 1:15:19We got into the Vikes game and everything.
- 1:15:21Hey, you can tell the voices.
- 1:15:24It's gone now.
- 1:15:25Now he's been on a pod.
- 1:15:26So that was completely shot.
- 1:15:27Completely shot. Rob is always, of course.
- 1:15:30Thank you much, sir.
- 1:15:31That's good. I'm ready for 13 and two.
- 1:15:33Let's get ready. Get a little Super Bowl going.
- 1:15:3413 and two. Yeah, might as well.
- 1:15:36This far. I want that one seed.
- 1:15:39I want it. We'll have it.
- 1:15:40We'll have it anyway.
- 1:15:41Yeah. Like like I got to get out of here.
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