Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 16 April
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- 0:10Speaker 1: He's the good report.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Tonight, Malaysia offers Anthony Albanesi more petrol after praising him
- 0:17Speaker 2: for being pro Palestinian's being Auntie Israel paying off big
- 0:23Speaker 2: time for the Prime Minister. Meanwhile, the Defense Minister warns
- 0:26Speaker 2: China is arming up and we need more weapons. Has
- 0:29Speaker 2: he actually delivered though, Harry Omega Markel's fake royal tour.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Mirchael claims she's bullied every day, but meanwhile makes a
- 0:37Speaker 2: motza on Master Chef that she makes this tour pay
- 0:41Speaker 2: and plenty more including Patrick Christie's and General Jake Keane.
- 0:45Speaker 2: And what Donald Trump will do now to break I
- 0:48Speaker 2: run at first, this fire in Geelong last night, it's
- 0:54Speaker 2: got to be the last straw.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I mean, enough of this nonsense.
- 0:58Speaker 2: This fire at one of the lass Too oil refineries
- 1:02Speaker 2: left in Australia should be the end of the global
- 1:05Speaker 2: warming cult that has made us poorer and dangerously weak.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Now, this is a fire.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Which we're assured as an equipment accident, nothing sinister, no
- 1:15Speaker 2: raining agents or anything that's just knocked out the production
- 1:18Speaker 2: of petrol in a refinery that supplies nearly ten percent
- 1:21Speaker 2: of Australia's fuel.
- 1:23Speaker 3: It's certainly not a positive development at this point. As
- 1:27Speaker 3: I said, I'm pleased that diesel and jet field, which
- 1:29Speaker 3: are both very important, maintain their production some impact on
- 1:34Speaker 3: petrol production, but we've got some way to go to
- 1:37Speaker 3: work out the full impact. Obviously, this is not a
- 1:40Speaker 3: great step forward.
- 1:43Speaker 2: And this comes to the very worst of times, of course,
- 1:46Speaker 2: when the Prime Minister is already on his world scrounging
- 1:50Speaker 2: tour to beg other countries to give a small fuel
- 1:53Speaker 2: to stop our economy from grown into a whole. Now
- 1:55Speaker 2: today Anthony Albanezi was in Malaysia offering Australian food for
- 2:01Speaker 2: Malaysian petrol hunt to barter systems now but got any
- 2:05Speaker 2: vague promises from Malaysia's Prime minister to give us priority
- 2:10Speaker 2: when it comes to the extra petrol.
- 2:13Speaker 4: What we need to do, so of course we see
- 2:15Speaker 4: first our domestic requirements and sellers demo domestic anti requirements
- 2:23Speaker 4: and see where we can assist each other in a
- 2:27Speaker 4: quid core basis.
- 2:31Speaker 2: I think of what you're looking at, I mean Australia's
- 2:35Speaker 2: Prime minister has got a plead for fuel from Asian
- 2:39Speaker 2: countries because we got so smug and stupid, because we
- 2:43Speaker 2: now extract just ten percent of the oil we did
- 2:47Speaker 2: sixteen years ago, and we close so many refineries that
- 2:50Speaker 2: we must now import about ninety percent of our own
- 2:53Speaker 2: liquid fuels.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So here we are.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Forcing out a big strangers for the oil that we
- 3:01Speaker 2: failed to extract ourselves and for the fuel we no
- 3:04Speaker 2: longer refine for ourselves. And today we've got to be
- 3:09Speaker 2: pathetically grateful the South Korea and Brunei have both said
- 3:14Speaker 2: they'll send us a day's worth of diesel. Now we've
- 3:19Speaker 2: been exposed, of course by the war in Iran around
- 3:22Speaker 2: deliberately causing worldwide oil crisis by stopping oil tankers using
- 3:27Speaker 2: the Persian Gulf, you know, minds, missiles, drones, whatever it.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Takes to stop them.
- 3:31Speaker 2: And now this far the Viva refinery and Geelong last
- 3:35Speaker 2: night just makes our foolishness even more.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Stark and obvious.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Now I know that we actually lost six refineries essentially
- 3:43Speaker 2: because as you could refine oil cheaper. It was the
- 3:45Speaker 2: dollar that talked there. But that is not quite the
- 3:49Speaker 2: end of the story, because if we hadn't got the
- 3:51Speaker 2: global warming madness that persuaded our leaders, the fossil fuels
- 3:56Speaker 2: were killing the planet, a must go and we'd all
- 3:58Speaker 2: go electric cars or whatever. We would almost certainly have
- 4:01Speaker 2: done much more to find our own oil and keep
- 4:06Speaker 2: our own refineries. But as you know, a lass and
- 4:11Speaker 2: a lay our leaders did get that warning manners, starting
- 4:14Speaker 2: with Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
- 4:17Speaker 5: High change is the great moral.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Challenge of our generation.
- 4:23Speaker 2: And that's how it was for years, a moral issue
- 4:26Speaker 2: rather than an economic one or a self sufficiency one.
- 4:29Speaker 2: We're just keeping the economy moving one. Now we still
- 4:33Speaker 2: have devout climate change jihadists in this Albanzy government, like
- 4:38Speaker 2: Energy Minister Crispoe you just saw earlier this week, was
- 4:42Speaker 2: telling us no, we don't need more fossil fuels at all,
- 4:45Speaker 2: even as his boss was begging Asia for just that.
- 4:49Speaker 3: There isn't one country in the world that said, you
- 4:52Speaker 3: know what this fuel crisis reminds us, is we need
- 4:54Speaker 3: more fossil fuels. That conversation is not being had anywhere
- 4:58Speaker 3: around the world. In fact, our countries around the world
- 5:01Speaker 3: a saying this underpins and underlines the need to keep
- 5:05Speaker 3: going with things like electrification and ensuring renewable energy is
- 5:11Speaker 3: an important part of the mix going forward.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Now, how stupid all that trashing of fossil fuels. We
- 5:17Speaker 2: don't need it, we don't want it. How stupid does
- 5:21Speaker 2: that look today? The fossil fuels that we're now being
- 5:25Speaker 2: brutally reminded still powers ninety one percent of our economy.
- 5:32Speaker 2: How ridiculous. Instead of promised to Kevin Mrudd, you know one,
- 5:37Speaker 2: suggesting it was worth paying higher petrol prices to save
- 5:41Speaker 2: the climate, or to have Greens founder Bob Brown still
- 5:45Speaker 2: telling us to leave the oil in the ground and
- 5:48Speaker 2: the colon gas too.
- 5:50Speaker 6: Put an end to new coal mines and to new
- 5:54Speaker 6: gas bracking and new oil extraction and burning off borus
- 5:58Speaker 6: in this country.
- 5:59Speaker 1: You will have the majority of Australians behind you.
- 6:03Speaker 2: And you know what's made this madness even more infuriating
- 6:07Speaker 2: for me? For how long have I been warning about it?
- 6:11Speaker 2: Twenty years, thirty years? Is that all this sacrifice and
- 6:16Speaker 2: pain and all that to make no change to the
- 6:19Speaker 2: climate that anyone can measure to save us from a
- 6:22Speaker 2: climate catastrophe? I cannot see now. I leave you with
- 6:28Speaker 2: one contrast to highlight what we've done to ourselves. America,
- 6:33Speaker 2: especially under Donald Trump, it didn't keep its oil in
- 6:35Speaker 2: the ground, and unlike us, it didn't ban fracking. It
- 6:40Speaker 2: went instead drill, baby, drill, and hallelujah. It no longer
- 6:45Speaker 2: needs to import oil. In fact, it is now exporting
- 6:49Speaker 2: record volumes of oil in this crisis, and also exporting
- 6:54Speaker 2: record volumes of petrol and diesel, including two Australia. That
- 7:00Speaker 2: is the difference. So surely now with this fire is
- 7:06Speaker 2: when we say no to the global woman religion that's
- 7:08Speaker 2: helped turn us into the beggars of Asia pleading for fuel.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Joining me is Saul Cabinet, probably our best analyst of
- 7:22Speaker 2: fuel supplies in the country and head of energy research
- 7:25Speaker 2: at MST Financial Soil. Always great to have you on
- 7:30Speaker 2: the fire at the Geelong refinery.
- 7:31Speaker 1: How bad is it for us and our supplies?
- 7:38Speaker 7: The fire at the Geelong Refinery has come at the
- 7:40Speaker 7: worst possible time really in the history of our refining
- 7:44Speaker 7: industry in Australia. So we now have disrupted up to
- 7:48Speaker 7: about ten percent of Australia's fuel supply and half of Victoria's,
- 7:54Speaker 7: just at the time where we were beginning to face
- 7:57Speaker 7: the real fuel shortage crunch in the aftermath of the
- 8:00Speaker 7: Iran War. You must remember that right now Australia is
- 8:05Speaker 7: still living off the fuel that left from the Middle
- 8:08Speaker 7: East through the straight up form was prior to the
- 8:10Speaker 7: war beginning.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Because of the time it takes for.
- 8:13Speaker 7: The oil to go to the refinanc ager, then come
- 8:15Speaker 7: down to Australia and end up in our local servo,
- 8:18Speaker 7: that fuel runs out in the next week. So the
- 8:20Speaker 7: real crunch point for the global fuel prices begins now
- 8:25Speaker 7: just as we've lost ten percent of our own refined
- 8:28Speaker 7: product supply, which is going to force us to go
- 8:30Speaker 7: back into international markets to scramble to find much higher
- 8:34Speaker 7: cost refined product which will cost a lot more than
- 8:37Speaker 7: refining our own eroponent.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Well, what will that crunch look like? You say, higher prices?
- 8:43Speaker 2: What are we looking at here?
- 8:46Speaker 7: Well, higher prices are inevitable. My fear is that higher prices,
- 8:51Speaker 7: as much as we don't like to pay more, is
- 8:53Speaker 7: not going to be our biggest problem. My concern is
- 8:57Speaker 7: we may not be able to get enough fuel at
- 8:59Speaker 7: a price. That is why we're seeing our Prime Minister
- 9:03Speaker 7: running to all of our trade partners requesting that they
- 9:07Speaker 7: not only keep the fuel they normally sent to Australia going,
- 9:10Speaker 7: but now that they actually deliver even more to make
- 9:13Speaker 7: up for the lost production from the Gelome refinery. Plus
- 9:17Speaker 7: all the exports that China has shut off to us.
- 9:22Speaker 7: That is absolutely critical in coming weeks because we're going
- 9:27Speaker 7: to see every nation in AhR and around the world
- 9:30Speaker 7: starting to use their political relationships to try divert fuel
- 9:34Speaker 7: away from Australia to their home markets outside the commercial framework,
- 9:39Speaker 7: based on politics. And now it's up to the Australian
- 9:42Speaker 7: government to make sure that doesn't happen and use our
- 9:44Speaker 7: own political leverage via our lergy exports to make sure
- 9:48Speaker 7: the fuel keeps coming to Australia. And I'm worried that
- 9:52Speaker 7: the government is not being fully successful in diplomatic efforts
- 9:56Speaker 7: here and that's why they're starting to, for example, unleash
- 9:59Speaker 7: this advertising campaign this week which is really starting to
- 10:03Speaker 7: prepare us with the possibility of deprivations of fuel at home.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Well, I hope Saul, that you've taken the ski rex
- 10:09Speaker 2: off your own car to help the nation eat these
- 10:13Speaker 2: this petrol out But so does this actually mean that
- 10:20Speaker 2: we're looking at fuel rationing.
- 10:25Speaker 7: It is my hope that we don't end up in
- 10:27Speaker 7: the rationing world. The best way for a Stroud to
- 10:31Speaker 7: get through this is for the government to use our
- 10:36Speaker 7: lgxport leverage to make sure fuel keeps coming to a
- 10:39Speaker 7: strata and that will still see higher prices, but it
- 10:41Speaker 7: will at least mean the fuel is available if we're
- 10:44Speaker 7: willing to pay more for it. The problem with that
- 10:49Speaker 7: is it looks like the government's not being successful and
- 10:52Speaker 7: are definitely using our diplomacy here. And in particular, part
- 10:56Speaker 7: of the reason complicating that is the government has policy
- 11:00Speaker 7: underway to both restrict our gas exports under its reservation
- 11:04Speaker 7: policy and slap a new tax on our LNG exports
- 11:07Speaker 7: as part of the upcoming budget.
- 11:09Speaker 1: And it's very.
- 11:10Speaker 7: Hard to ask our trade partners please keep sticking to
- 11:14Speaker 7: the rules of the game and send us the fuel
- 11:16Speaker 7: that we require if at the same time we're violating
- 11:20Speaker 7: the rules of the game and changing them and slapping
- 11:23Speaker 7: taxes or restrictions on the LERG that they so desperately
- 11:27Speaker 7: need from us. And I think that one is to
- 11:29Speaker 7: government really needs to lift its game here, prioritize our
- 11:33Speaker 7: near term fuel security, and make sure it's diplomatic efforts
- 11:37Speaker 7: are actually going to achieve the outcome here, because if
- 11:40Speaker 7: that isn't successful, we are going to face demand management
- 11:43Speaker 7: measures here. They're going to start as being voluntary. We're
- 11:46Speaker 7: seeing that to start already, but quickly they can become coercive,
- 11:51Speaker 7: and in the worst case, a severe scenario, we will
- 11:54Speaker 7: see rationing that takes fuel away from us in the
- 11:56Speaker 7: cities in order to secure our vital economic corridors and
- 11:59Speaker 7: critical services.
- 12:01Speaker 2: In fact, for some of those partners, it's going to
- 12:03Speaker 2: be a double insult because we will be taxing surprise, surprise,
- 12:08Speaker 2: in a new taxes on the oil, on the gas
- 12:11Speaker 2: exports from facilities that many of them have invested a
- 12:16Speaker 2: lot of their money into exploit it because we didn't
- 12:19Speaker 2: do much of it ourselves.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Can I just ask.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I see the Prime Minister is in a softer way
- 12:29Speaker 2: doing what you recommended weeks ago. Now that you go
- 12:33Speaker 2: to those countries and say, look, you depend on our gas,
- 12:39Speaker 2: we depend on your petrol. Remember you know it's a threat.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Basically it's a threat. But how can the government actually
- 12:48Speaker 2: leverage that when the gas is not its own to
- 12:53Speaker 2: barter with, it comes from companies that were set up
- 12:56Speaker 2: with investment overseas, based on long contracts overseas.
- 13:02Speaker 1: How can we do that?
- 13:05Speaker 7: Look, there are mechanisms in which the government can do
- 13:08Speaker 7: this if it wishes to, and none of us it's
- 13:13Speaker 7: not then necessarily going to be overts. A lot of
- 13:15Speaker 7: these discussions are with friends and allies, and they'll be polite,
- 13:19Speaker 7: quid pro code discussions where it's about our mind interest
- 13:22Speaker 7: and keeping trained for in both ways. But there is
- 13:27Speaker 7: that implied threat there. As you say, there are various
- 13:30Speaker 7: legal mechanisms available to the government if it wanted to
- 13:33Speaker 7: use that threat. One of the problems we have is
- 13:37Speaker 7: China has already stopped exporting fuel products to us, and
- 13:43Speaker 7: yet we continue to sell large amounts of gas to
- 13:47Speaker 7: China and three dollars and very low prices below what
- 13:51Speaker 7: we even paid domestically into Australia, and the government doesn't
- 13:55Speaker 7: look quite weak in its negotiations here, where it's one
- 13:58Speaker 7: thing to talk, but it's quite another, I think thing
- 14:00Speaker 7: to actually back it up. And I'm really concerned that
- 14:03Speaker 7: ultimately they're showing weakness and the negotiations and we'll fall
- 14:07Speaker 7: short of fuel as a result.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Well, I didn't realize that last bit. That's astonishing, and
- 14:16Speaker 2: quickly Saul, what is the lesson for us in all this?
- 14:23Speaker 7: The big takeaway from this is it's a wake up
- 14:26Speaker 7: call for Australia. We need to be more self sufficient
- 14:29Speaker 7: in our fuel supply chains. Again, the best way to
- 14:33Speaker 7: do that is for us, as you say, to go
- 14:37Speaker 7: back to the days when we produced more of our
- 14:39Speaker 7: own oil and refine more of it at home. Sovereign
- 14:42Speaker 7: supply chains are absolutely critical because, keep in mind we're
- 14:46Speaker 7: seeing right now, however, maritime train distruction as far away
- 14:50Speaker 7: as the Middle East can cause it not just an
- 14:53Speaker 7: energy but an economic and national security crisis here at home.
- 14:56Speaker 7: And the next big maritime train distruction could much closer
- 15:00Speaker 7: to home in the Pacific. And if we're unable right
- 15:03Speaker 7: now in our viola position where we'd import almost all
- 15:06Speaker 7: of our fuel, if we're unable to maintain fuel imports
- 15:10Speaker 7: by maritime trade, our economy will grind to a halt
- 15:14Speaker 7: within a matter of weeks, and our ability to even
- 15:16Speaker 7: do things like keep our jet craft in the air
- 15:18Speaker 7: for our air force would stop in a matter of days.
- 15:22Speaker 7: That is not a position that we can afford to
- 15:25Speaker 7: maintain ourselves in. We have to get back to drilling oil,
- 15:29Speaker 7: upgrading and potentially building new refineries to have that level
- 15:33Speaker 7: of self sufficiency. It's about our economy and our national security.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Sol Kevanic, thank you so much for that. Rather sobering analysis.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Thank you now before I go to the break. Defense Minster,
- 15:47Speaker 2: Richard Males gave a big speech on arming up our military,
- 15:50Speaker 2: especially with drones. And I'll give Males credit for speaking
- 15:55Speaker 2: more frankly than we used to hearing from our leaders,
- 15:57Speaker 2: especially labor Ones for instance, there was no mucking around
- 16:01Speaker 2: this time. China should scare us.
- 16:05Speaker 5: All nuclear weapon states are growing their arsenals once more,
- 16:10Speaker 5: with the biggest growth occurring in China. China is also
- 16:15Speaker 5: deploying the PLA Navy at greater distance in the Pacific Maritimes,
- 16:19Speaker 5: Southeast Asia and the Indian Nacean and PLA deployments close
- 16:24Speaker 5: to Australia have grown in frequency and capability over the
- 16:28Speaker 5: last two years, a trend that will continue. And China
- 16:33Speaker 5: has deepened its strategic partnership with Russia.
- 16:38Speaker 2: And the second good takeout was that we had to
- 16:42Speaker 2: stop this fantasy that you hear, particularly on the left,
- 16:45Speaker 2: that we can defend ourselves, so we can dump Trump
- 16:48Speaker 2: and the Americans and just trust to the rules space order.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Is a fan of rules spased order, but he pointed
- 16:54Speaker 2: out that won't defend us in a world where power counts.
- 16:59Speaker 2: In fact, said Trump is right about freeloaders wanting the
- 17:02Speaker 2: US to do the fighting for them.
- 17:05Speaker 5: I understand the US frustrations that allies might seek to
- 17:08Speaker 5: free ride on this US leadership or believe that somehow
- 17:13Speaker 5: the order acts as a substitute for hard power.
- 17:16Speaker 1: It does not.
- 17:18Speaker 5: Any rules based order can only prevent conflict when it
- 17:22Speaker 5: is underpinned by the hard power necessary for collective deterrence.
- 17:27Speaker 5: But let's also be clear, there is no effective balance
- 17:31Speaker 5: of power in the Endopacific absent the continued presence of
- 17:36Speaker 5: the United States.
- 17:38Speaker 2: The thing is, though, if the world is this dangerous,
- 17:41Speaker 2: and it is, Males said, there are in fact now
- 17:44Speaker 2: more nations at war than since World War Two, why
- 17:47Speaker 2: didn't he do a lot more to save us now?
- 17:50Speaker 2: Males today said, this goverment's going to spend an extra
- 17:53Speaker 2: fifty three billion dollars on defense, but over the next
- 17:57Speaker 2: ten years, much of it, luckily on extra spending on drones,
- 18:02Speaker 2: which have been urging for ages. But and that's not
- 18:06Speaker 2: just like the twenty million dollars apiece ghost Bat drone
- 18:10Speaker 2: and the Ghost Shark unmanned submarine. There's a big stuff
- 18:13Speaker 2: needed for our big distances, but also swarms of small
- 18:16Speaker 2: drones of the kind of Ukraine has used so brilliantly.
- 18:19Speaker 1: But is even this enough? Now?
- 18:21Speaker 2: It's true that Males today said our total spending on
- 18:23Speaker 2: defense was now three percent, which sounds a lot when
- 18:26Speaker 2: you say, oh, I didn't were we told it was
- 18:29Speaker 2: two percent before?
- 18:31Speaker 1: But don't believe it.
- 18:33Speaker 2: There's only three percent because Males has filled the figures.
- 18:37Speaker 2: He's added for the first time what private companies are
- 18:40Speaker 2: putting in to build us these weapons. Has even included
- 18:43Speaker 2: non fighting expenses like defense pensions of all things. Is that,
- 18:49Speaker 2: how are we going to defend ourselves? Show the Chinese
- 18:52Speaker 2: army our pensioners. It's an exercise in creative accounting. Well,
- 18:58Speaker 2: creative accounting does not defense end a single Australian absolutely
- 19:03Speaker 2: correct accounting tricks are not missiles, they're not destroyers, they're
- 19:08Speaker 2: not drones. And one day we may learn to regret
- 19:12Speaker 2: not doing more, and if we do, the reality will
- 19:16Speaker 2: be very ugly. After the break Donald Trump's new move
- 19:20Speaker 2: to break your round, General Jack Keane, after this, so frankly,
- 19:28Speaker 2: we're stuffed and we now depend on one thing really
- 19:31Speaker 2: to get us out of this fuel crisis. We depend
- 19:34Speaker 2: on the US to get oil tankers through the strait
- 19:36Speaker 2: of form Us, which Iran is effectively blocked for more
- 19:39Speaker 2: than a month with missiles and drones and possibly mines.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Now to do that, the US has got one of
- 19:46Speaker 2: two ways, really and is now urgently trying both. One
- 19:50Speaker 2: is to make a piece deal with Iran in which
- 19:52Speaker 2: Iran agrees to go back to letting tankers pass and
- 19:56Speaker 2: not now what it's doing now, and it's really excited
- 20:00Speaker 2: by charging them millions of dollars on the way through.
- 20:04Speaker 2: The hardliners in Iran think this is a good one.
- 20:07Speaker 2: We'll keep that. The other is for the US Navy
- 20:10Speaker 2: to somehow make that straight safe from Iranian attack so
- 20:13Speaker 2: the tankers can go through. And here's what the US
- 20:16Speaker 2: is doing about both those two things. As of Monday,
- 20:21Speaker 2: last Monday, It's navy has imposed its own blockade of
- 20:24Speaker 2: the Persian Gulf to stop any ship coming from an
- 20:27Speaker 2: Iranian port to stop the exports that he Ran desperately
- 20:31Speaker 2: needs with its economy now collapsing. The US even turned
- 20:35Speaker 2: back a Chinese tanker. You either the.
- 20:38Speaker 8: Bridge is like vessels will be boarded from Introductionoucy or
- 20:41Speaker 8: implying with his like the William.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Sports Now this is putting immense pressure on the Iranian economy.
- 20:47Speaker 2: But the question is whether the Uranian regime cares that
- 20:51Speaker 2: that economy is collapsing. It's proved already it would rather
- 20:53Speaker 2: kill its people than lose power. Does it mind if
- 20:57Speaker 2: inflation goes over one hundred percent? So in the mean time,
- 21:00Speaker 2: the is preparing to clear the straight and escort ships
- 21:04Speaker 2: through it, which is dangerous stuff. But can it work?
- 21:08Speaker 2: I spoke earlier to General Jack Keen, of former Vice
- 21:10Speaker 2: Chief of Staff of the United States Army, who is
- 21:13Speaker 2: now chairman of the Institute of the Study of War.
- 21:16Speaker 2: General Keen is the advantage of having been consulted on
- 21:19Speaker 2: the US war plans.
- 21:21Speaker 1: General Jack Keane, lovely to see you again.
- 21:24Speaker 2: The US Navy started a blockade on Monday of any
- 21:27Speaker 2: Iranian ships or any ships at all coming from Iran.
- 21:31Speaker 2: And this is obviously the star of Iran of oil
- 21:34Speaker 2: revenue in particular.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Is this a related change of tactics?
- 21:40Speaker 9: Well, I think what happened here is certainly President Trump
- 21:44Speaker 9: decided to double down on the Iranians for a couple
- 21:49Speaker 9: of reasons. One, obviously, they closed the straight of a
- 21:51Speaker 9: move and no progress was made at the negotiations in
- 21:55Speaker 9: terms of a final deal. These plans have been in
- 22:00Speaker 9: the making for some time. I thought we should have, frankly,
- 22:04Speaker 9: have done it as soon as the Iranians shut down
- 22:07Speaker 9: the straight of a moves we should have executed this plan.
- 22:10Speaker 9: But it's in progress now and it is so our
- 22:14Speaker 9: audience really understands. This is going to bring Ran to
- 22:18Speaker 9: his knees. And as a result of it, I believe
- 22:25Speaker 9: there's going to be major, major concessions made here. Ninety
- 22:28Speaker 9: percent of their oil and overwhelming majority of all of
- 22:33Speaker 9: their revenue has now been stopped. And our estimates here
- 22:38Speaker 9: are somewhere in the neighborhood of about a little short
- 22:41Speaker 9: of four hundred and fifty million dollars a day in revenue,
- 22:46Speaker 9: about thirteen or fourteen billion dollars in one month after
- 22:51Speaker 9: a couple of weeks, if the oil doesn't keep flowing,
- 22:55Speaker 9: you know, out of their wells, their oil wells into
- 22:59Speaker 9: distribution centers. They have to shut down the ore walls
- 23:02Speaker 9: in two weeks. So this is a catastrophe in the
- 23:07Speaker 9: making for Iran, and they brought this on themselves. I
- 23:12Speaker 9: really do expect some major concessions on their part. The
- 23:17Speaker 9: ceasefire ends at the end of the week. And from
- 23:20Speaker 9: what I understand, and I have good sources, the president
- 23:26Speaker 9: is not going to provide an extension. He's looking for
- 23:30Speaker 9: major concession here or else. We're going to restart.
- 23:35Speaker 1: I have to ker what you say.
- 23:37Speaker 2: It's a pity the blockade wasn't done earlier. I don't
- 23:39Speaker 2: know whether the US had ships available, given they were
- 23:42Speaker 2: actually conducting major military operations at the time. But would
- 23:46Speaker 2: the Iranian regime actually crumble do you think because it
- 23:50Speaker 2: doesn't really care about the suffering of its people. Who
- 23:53Speaker 2: cares about power? And the other point is you mentioned
- 23:57Speaker 2: a couple of weeks real face of crisis. Has the
- 24:01Speaker 2: US actually got that time up as sleeve given the
- 24:05Speaker 2: massive pressureeries under from the rest of the world community
- 24:08Speaker 2: to wrap this up, to let the oil go through
- 24:11Speaker 2: the straight up for Moose again.
- 24:13Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, the second phase of the block gain is
- 24:17Speaker 9: a different operation, and orders have already been given to
- 24:21Speaker 9: Admiral Cooper, who's in charge of the US peace of
- 24:24Speaker 9: the war, and it's a geographic commander in chief on
- 24:29Speaker 9: the field, their combatant commander we call refer to it
- 24:32Speaker 9: as Central Command, and he's begun some early phases of it,
- 24:38Speaker 9: and his mission is one to clear the straits of
- 24:42Speaker 9: a moves of minds, and we were about doing that
- 24:45Speaker 9: as we speak. Two to secure it, and then three
- 24:50Speaker 9: to bring an escort ships through that. The plans is
- 24:54Speaker 9: to take out long range systems that can reach the
- 24:58Speaker 9: straits of a Moves in terms of anti ship missiles, drones,
- 25:03Speaker 9: other kinds of or shoulder fired missiles, and we've been
- 25:08Speaker 9: working steadily on that and we've killed and destroyed a
- 25:13Speaker 9: number of their fast boats. We haven't taken out all
- 25:16Speaker 9: of them because they're hiding them certainly, but time they
- 25:19Speaker 9: try to move, when we take it out, we have
- 25:22Speaker 9: huge presence. And then when we move the ships through safely.
- 25:27Speaker 9: Yes it is a narrow space, but the ships don't
- 25:30Speaker 9: occupy all that much space. When you think of a
- 25:33Speaker 9: couple of ships, one escorting one following maybe a couple
- 25:36Speaker 9: of ships in between the space the ships are occupying
- 25:41Speaker 9: in the vicinity of Iran that are within its weapon
- 25:44Speaker 9: systems right now, so they can deliver an attack Iran
- 25:49Speaker 9: or help to defend US spaces in Israel. We have
- 25:52Speaker 9: numerous ships out there, two carrier strike groups doing that
- 25:56Speaker 9: and they've been shooting at us for a couple of weeks,
- 25:58Speaker 9: they haven't even hit one of them. So we have
- 26:01Speaker 9: a capability to defend those ships, and we're pretty confident.
- 26:06Speaker 9: In talking to the commander in charge, he believes that
- 26:10Speaker 9: we can open it, secure it, and pass ships through
- 26:14Speaker 9: with minimal interruption. We're not saying that a drone may
- 26:19Speaker 9: not get through, but even if it does get through,
- 26:21Speaker 9: there'll be terminal defense on the ships themselves, and we're
- 26:25Speaker 9: likely even on the merchant ships, we're going to give
- 26:27Speaker 9: them some counter drone capability. We won't want to get
- 26:31Speaker 9: into the type of that and reveal what it can
- 26:33Speaker 9: do and what it can't do, but yeah, we have
- 26:38Speaker 9: a confidence. We wouldn't execute this mission if we thought
- 26:42Speaker 9: the risk was too great and we're going to lose
- 26:44Speaker 9: our own ships also those Merchian ships. We've done this before,
- 26:49Speaker 9: and we've war gained this against the Iranian capability over
- 26:53Speaker 9: and over and over again, just like we've war gained
- 26:57Speaker 9: this blockade operation that's unfolded. We had total confidence that
- 27:02Speaker 9: we would be able to shut down running and distribution
- 27:05Speaker 9: and also any ships that want to go up into
- 27:08Speaker 9: those sports and pick up that oil.
- 27:10Speaker 2: And interestingly, it's China that actually buys most of the Iran's oil,
- 27:15Speaker 2: the vast majority of it. So that may well put
- 27:19Speaker 2: prisoner on China to come to the table and say
- 27:21Speaker 2: to around it's an ally, enough's enough. But we shall see.
- 27:25Speaker 2: As you mentioned, the two weeks cease fire is days
- 27:28Speaker 2: away from ending. What do you expect then the bombing
- 27:31Speaker 2: to start again.
- 27:34Speaker 9: If there's no deal? Yes, if there is a deal,
- 27:39Speaker 9: which I think this leverage that we have over the
- 27:46Speaker 9: Iranian distribution of oil is really quite significant, and I
- 27:53Speaker 9: know for a fact it has got their attention, and
- 27:56Speaker 9: I suspect going to make a deal, but remains to
- 28:01Speaker 9: be seen here. The enemy always has a vote, and
- 28:05Speaker 9: we always have to remind ourselves and what we have
- 28:08Speaker 9: to do here is be adaptable and flexible, and a
- 28:11Speaker 9: barcade is an example of that adaptability and flexibility. They
- 28:15Speaker 9: shut down the streets, stop the distribution of oil for
- 28:18Speaker 9: everybody but themselves, and we said enough is enough. We
- 28:22Speaker 9: gave you an opportunity to make a deal with us
- 28:24Speaker 9: in Pakistan a few days ago that didn't come to fruition.
- 28:29Speaker 9: Now we're shutting down your oil. The next move is
- 28:32Speaker 9: up to you, mister Aaron. What are you going to do?
- 28:36Speaker 9: I think the next move they're going to make is
- 28:40Speaker 9: likely going to be a major concession. If not, they
- 28:44Speaker 9: may unload the houthies. If they unload the houthis to
- 28:47Speaker 9: shut down another straight that's a violation of the ceasefire.
- 28:52Speaker 1: And then we're back. We're back at.
- 28:55Speaker 2: War again, General Jack Kane, thank you so much. Indeed
- 28:59Speaker 2: you're INSIGHT's very much appreciated.
- 29:03Speaker 9: Great talking to Andrew.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 29:05Speaker 2: After the break, Paul Keating emerges to blast Thingus Taylor
- 29:10Speaker 2: for his immigration policy, and the Prime Minister had sayings
- 29:15Speaker 2: he israel stance might have got him some petrol. Ivis
- 29:23Speaker 2: your leader, Angus Taylor? This week he announced a get
- 29:26Speaker 2: tough policy on immigration to keep our immigrants who don't
- 29:30Speaker 2: share our values. Former pro Minister that Paul Keating today
- 29:34Speaker 2: has issued a statement typical keeping, accusing Taylor of racism
- 29:39Speaker 2: and cowardice. Apparently it's racist if you don't like people
- 29:44Speaker 2: who might not share Australian values. I don't get it now,
- 29:47Speaker 2: I thought. Taylor actually hit back well, saying I always
- 29:50Speaker 2: suspected that Paul Keating didn't support Australian values, but now
- 29:53Speaker 2: he has dropped any pretense. Well, well, well, joining me
- 29:59Speaker 2: is Skye New's Mega hosts James McPherson and Christy McSweeney,
- 30:05Speaker 2: who has worked for Communications sells, work for Prime Minister's
- 30:10Speaker 2: and walk the halls of power, giving advice to anyone
- 30:13Speaker 2: that hears James, Well, there you go, James McPherson. What
- 30:20Speaker 2: do you make of the Paul keaty who won that one?
- 30:23Speaker 10: Well, first, thank you for the very kind and generous introduction, Andrew.
- 30:26Speaker 10: I appreciated that I read Paul Keating's statement, and to
- 30:30Speaker 10: be honest, none of it made sense. All of the
- 30:33Speaker 10: accusations he makes against Angus Taylor and the Liberal policy
- 30:37Speaker 10: are completely false. The moment that Paul Keating compared Angus
- 30:41Speaker 10: Taylor's policy to Trump's ice immigration policy, you know that
- 30:47Speaker 10: Paul Keating is really just trying to scare monger. Anybody
- 30:51Speaker 10: with half a brain who reads Keating's statement will know
- 30:53Speaker 10: that this is nonsense. And then, as Angus Taylor rightly said, sadly,
- 30:58Speaker 10: we've come to expect this sort of nonsense from Paul Keating.
- 31:00Speaker 10: I don't think it will make much difference at all,
- 31:02Speaker 10: and I think most Australians understand it's not racism to
- 31:06Speaker 10: stand up for the values of your own country. That's
- 31:09Speaker 10: pretty much agreed by most people. This is a bit
- 31:12Speaker 10: of a nothing from Paul Keating.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Chrissy, but it is so typical, isn't it that when
- 31:19Speaker 2: you say, look, I kind of like Australian values, We
- 31:23Speaker 2: even just want to discuss immigration policy, that you get
- 31:26Speaker 2: someone with a damn big bullhorn screaming races that you
- 31:29Speaker 2: know there's no possibility for a sensible debate.
- 31:35Speaker 8: Well, look, of course, Keating, as we know, held the
- 31:37Speaker 8: seat of Blaxland in Western Sydney for many many years
- 31:41Speaker 8: before moving into a multimillion dollar terrace in Pop's point
- 31:46Speaker 8: sharing his musings about the development of Sydney Harbor with
- 31:50Speaker 8: us all. So it's probably a really long way from
- 31:54Speaker 8: his constituency and he wants to wade into this debate.
- 31:58Speaker 8: The policy has all had a risk attached to it.
- 32:01Speaker 8: I feel for Labor to weaponize and to use the
- 32:06Speaker 8: American term surrogates and Keating is just one of the
- 32:10Speaker 8: first that we've said, you know, the Labor Party doesn't
- 32:13Speaker 8: really want to talk about immigration. They don't really want
- 32:16Speaker 8: to respond to the fact that it's an issue reflected
- 32:19Speaker 8: in polling that most Australians are thinking about on a
- 32:23Speaker 8: spectrum of being really concerned to Yes, our infrastructure is
- 32:28Speaker 8: growing under the weight of the population. But he's one
- 32:33Speaker 8: of those and there is going to be a long
- 32:35Speaker 8: line of them rather than the government itself talking about
- 32:40Speaker 8: this issue.
- 32:42Speaker 2: Should remaind viewers that Paul Keating under the Howard government
- 32:46Speaker 2: lobbied then Immigration minister overturned a decision to evict hate
- 32:51Speaker 2: preacher Shake Hillayly from the country. Shake Hi Layley then
- 32:56Speaker 2: became notorious for saying things like the September eleven attack
- 33:02Speaker 2: on America, which killed three thousand people, was God's work
- 33:05Speaker 2: against the presses. He supported Hezbollah and he said suicide
- 33:10Speaker 2: bombers were heroes. So maybe Paul Keating is and the
- 33:13Speaker 2: expert on who to keep out of this country James
- 33:17Speaker 2: turns out that being anti Israel is paying off for
- 33:20Speaker 2: this prime minister. It's really helped Anthony Albanezi on his
- 33:24Speaker 2: worldwide scrounging tour, particularly Malaysia. Today we was asking its
- 33:29Speaker 2: Islamic Islamic nationalist prime minister for more of Malaysia's fuel.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Hear it from and Ibrahim himself in the joint press conference,
- 33:39Speaker 2: which he used for a rant about Gaza.
- 33:43Speaker 4: The hunger has not seized in the West Bank, settlements
- 33:47Speaker 4: continue to expand and violence continues to escalate with utter impunity.
- 33:54Speaker 4: I appreciate Australia stands on Gaza.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Well, James, it turns out to be that being anti
- 34:03Speaker 2: Israel is not just useful for getting labor Muslim votes
- 34:06Speaker 2: at home.
- 34:07Speaker 10: I watched that press conference, Andrew, and I guess, like you,
- 34:11Speaker 10: was stunned that all of a sudden, Gaza had entered
- 34:14Speaker 10: the chat room. I mean, Gaza has nothing to do
- 34:17Speaker 10: with our relationship with Malaysia re petrol supply, and all
- 34:22Speaker 10: of a sudden, Gaza is being talked about. The thing
- 34:25Speaker 10: that the Malaysian Prime Minister neglected to mention is that, yes,
- 34:28Speaker 10: Ghazans are suffering, but the fact is Hamas is still
- 34:32Speaker 10: in control in Gaza and has not surrendered. So maybe
- 34:36Speaker 10: when the Islamist terror organization gives up their arms and surrenders,
- 34:41Speaker 10: life will improve greatly for Gazans. But you're right for
- 34:44Speaker 10: the Malaysian Prime Minister to go out of his way
- 34:47Speaker 10: to thank our Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi for his support
- 34:51Speaker 10: on Gaza says a great deal about how our government
- 34:54Speaker 10: is viewed by the Islamic World.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Chris, what did you make of that? As Gaza ran
- 35:02Speaker 2: to the middle of it only played a part of
- 35:04Speaker 2: that rant, and then praise for Anthony Albanzi who then
- 35:09Speaker 2: has a vague gift of extra petrol put in his pocket.
- 35:15Speaker 8: It's the Graham Richardson labor Party. Whatever it takes, isn't it.
- 35:20Speaker 8: And so we are going around our region doing whatever
- 35:23Speaker 8: it takes, because we know we're in dire straits here.
- 35:28Speaker 8: No pun intended in Australia, and you know, the Prime
- 35:32Speaker 8: Minister has to look like he's doing that, and he
- 35:33Speaker 8: has to look like he's building what we call this
- 35:36Speaker 8: regional power base and then extending that to the middle
- 35:40Speaker 8: powerboase with France and Canada. So you can see the strategy.
- 35:44Speaker 8: This isn't the first time the Malaysian Prime Minister has
- 35:47Speaker 8: remarked on Gaza in meetings. He did it last year
- 35:51Speaker 8: just in October at the Asian Summit in a press
- 35:54Speaker 8: conference with Anthony Albansi, and he mentioned Gaza and he
- 35:58Speaker 8: congratulated and recognize Penny Wong and Anthony Alberaneesi for their
- 36:02Speaker 8: stance in Gaza. So the Prime Minister knew that that
- 36:07Speaker 8: was coming but it was a lot harsher this time
- 36:11Speaker 8: than it was at the Asian Summit. But you know
- 36:16Speaker 8: it is we can see the why the Prime Minister
- 36:19Speaker 8: and Minister Wong, apart from the Australian domestic political issues,
- 36:24Speaker 8: do not want to make any further words or stance
- 36:29Speaker 8: around Israel.
- 36:32Speaker 2: To get involved, yes, and don't want to get involved
- 36:36Speaker 2: in any exactly war with Iran another Islamic nation. I
- 36:42Speaker 2: have to say, James, I know, you know we're talking
- 36:45Speaker 2: weighty things about that press conference or this trip.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Couldn't help, but he jarred on me. You know, I
- 36:53Speaker 1: was looking at an earlier.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Press conference Anthony Alberdezi gave today in Malaysia in front
- 36:59Speaker 2: of a riot of flags and colors, not one that
- 37:02Speaker 2: you could easily identify as the Australian flag. I mean,
- 37:05Speaker 2: there's all these tribal flags behind him. Shouldn't the Prime
- 37:09Speaker 2: Minister in fact fly just the national flag.
- 37:13Speaker 10: It's the only flag that he should fly, whether abroad
- 37:17Speaker 10: or at home. Anybody watching that press conference not familiar
- 37:20Speaker 10: with Anthony Albanezi would not have had a clue that
- 37:23Speaker 10: he was the Australian Prime Minister representing Australia. Because the
- 37:27Speaker 10: Australian flag was nowhere to be seen. I'm still not
- 37:31Speaker 10: sure looking at that vision was the blue immediately behind him?
- 37:34Speaker 10: Was that the Australian flag?
- 37:37Speaker 1: I have to guess it was. I don't know.
- 37:39Speaker 10: And that's the problem. We're guessing, right, we're guessing that
- 37:42Speaker 10: perhaps he has the Australian flag in there. These things
- 37:46Speaker 10: are very carefully curated, they're very deliberately put together, and
- 37:51Speaker 10: so sadly, this is no accident that the Australian flag
- 37:54Speaker 10: is indistinguishable. This is by design.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Chrissy, what did you make of that? I mean, maybe
- 38:01Speaker 2: are more sensitive than most viewers, so I expect a
- 38:03Speaker 2: lot of people won't be that happy with that. But
- 38:06Speaker 2: I don't know. It just seems the Australian flags keeps
- 38:09Speaker 2: getting marginalized, and I don't think it should be. I mean,
- 38:13Speaker 2: they actually go overseas and fly the three flags behind
- 38:17Speaker 2: the premis.
- 38:21Speaker 8: It's odd, isn't it? Yes, James is right. These things
- 38:23Speaker 8: are really really carefully curated. And I worked at many
- 38:28Speaker 8: a press conference when Australia held the G twenty, and
- 38:32Speaker 8: some global leaders are very insistent on the flag that
- 38:36Speaker 8: they stand in front of all behind and maybe we're
- 38:39Speaker 8: a bit soft here in Australia and letting them do that.
- 38:42Speaker 8: But it's not done by accident. It would be nice
- 38:46Speaker 8: to see the flag out front are not obscured, but
- 38:50Speaker 8: as I say, it's not done by accident. And maybe
- 38:54Speaker 8: that was the way the Malaysians did it and we
- 38:56Speaker 8: didn't want to upset them. You know, we need their help,
- 39:00Speaker 8: you need the fuel. Going back to our previous comments,
- 39:03Speaker 8: but you could stand in front of the flag if
- 39:05Speaker 8: you're the Australian Prime minister on the global stage.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Well maybe it made sense in Malaysia. And there's an
- 39:10Speaker 2: anti colonial, anti British sort of strain very prominent there
- 39:15Speaker 2: in the Malayia Bumiputra circles.
- 39:19Speaker 1: And to say.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Listen, yeah we're love that hot on you know the
- 39:23Speaker 2: British heritageay the look Aboriginal low cator as straight islander.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Maybe that also helps get more petrol from them. I
- 39:29Speaker 2: don't know. Christop McSweeney, James thank you very wow.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Right, oh my god, do we or what?
- 39:37Speaker 2: And it's all because we've been too stupid to you know,
- 39:41Speaker 2: secure our own future. Christom McSweeney, James Wiferson, thank you
- 39:44Speaker 2: to you both. After the break and you refugee scam,
- 39:49Speaker 2: pretend to be gay.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Even the lawyers are in on it. Patrick Christie's next.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Prince Harry and Megan Marchael didn't wait long to get
- 39:59Speaker 2: to the money make bit of their fake Royal tour.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I mean they've already done the sick kids thing at
- 40:05Speaker 2: Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital, they did the mental health thing
- 40:09Speaker 2: at Swinburne University, they did the Aboriginal thing in a
- 40:12Speaker 2: walk today.
- 40:13Speaker 1: But last night it was payday.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Master Chef had hired a special guest to boost its
- 40:20Speaker 2: ratings and.
- 40:44Speaker 1: Next to go.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Kirt Ching Markles, the hard star of a wellness retreat
- 40:49Speaker 2: for women at the koug Beach Into Continental where three
- 40:52Speaker 2: thousand dollars will get you a picture.
- 40:55Speaker 1: Whither joined me from London.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Each Thursday's Patrick Christie's Star present her on GV News.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Patrick the Australian tour of these professional victims Harry and
- 41:07Speaker 2: Megha mikal I not I said it's also making front
- 41:09Speaker 2: page news in Britain. Lots of focus on markal Now
- 41:13Speaker 2: saying that she's been bullied every day for ten years.
- 41:16Speaker 2: What's the fascination over your way with this tour down here?
- 41:20Speaker 6: Oh, we just can't believe that so many Ozzies have
- 41:22Speaker 6: fallen for it. Andrew, I mean Mega Markel and Britain.
- 41:25Speaker 6: It's the grift that keeps on grifting. I thought Australia
- 41:28Speaker 6: was known for having a strict border. But you've let
- 41:30Speaker 6: Prince Harry and despite admitting to historic drug use at
- 41:33Speaker 6: his buck. But Meghan Markle says that she's been bullied
- 41:36Speaker 6: every day for ten years. Let's just get one thing straight.
- 41:39Speaker 6: She's welcomed into the Royal family. The British taxpayer paid
- 41:42Speaker 6: millions of pounds for her wedding. Hundreds of millions of
- 41:45Speaker 6: people worldwide watched as she got to live out a
- 41:48Speaker 6: childhood fantasy of marrying Prince Charming. And then, just as
- 41:51Speaker 6: Prince Philip and our dear late Queen were in port House,
- 41:53Speaker 6: she decided to make their final months miserable and cried
- 41:56Speaker 6: into Oprah Winfrey's bosom. She's called members of the Royal Family. Oh,
- 42:00Speaker 6: she's such a victim. Hundreds of millions of dollars she's
- 42:03Speaker 6: been given in Netflix and Spotify deals. She graced the
- 42:06Speaker 6: world with her cookery skills, which basically involved chopping up
- 42:10Speaker 6: fruit and sprinkling it with flower petals in someone else's
- 42:13Speaker 6: kitchen while people who were paid to pretend to be
- 42:16Speaker 6: her friends were there, while someone else looks after the kids.
- 42:20Speaker 6: I mean Australia Master chef. I can't wait to see
- 42:23Speaker 6: what she's what she's serving up, but just quickly as well.
- 42:26Speaker 6: Apparently they flew business class to Australia and they were
- 42:28Speaker 6: telling everyone around them how great their kids were. Right,
- 42:31Speaker 6: and then Prince Harry has spoken on this tour about
- 42:33Speaker 6: how he wants to be an upgrade to his father.
- 42:36Speaker 6: Not brought the kids with them, though, have they. Apparently
- 42:38Speaker 6: they've got two nannies to look after them. I can't
- 42:41Speaker 6: but wonder what the turnover rate of Nanni's is compared
- 42:43Speaker 6: to the turnover rate of some of Meghan's other staff.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Ah, very good questions. Now, I did mention earlier tonight. Patrick,
- 42:51Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier how we lit people in so easily.
- 42:54Speaker 2: You've got our former Prime Minister Paul Keaty claiming it
- 42:57Speaker 2: is racist to turn away immigrants, to don't you our
- 43:00Speaker 2: values or whatever. I guess Keening would probably cheered with
- 43:03Speaker 2: the socialist governor of Spain that's just decided to deal
- 43:06Speaker 2: with how they've dealed with half a million illegal immigrants
- 43:12Speaker 2: over there, half a million, most from Latin America and Africa.
- 43:16Speaker 2: It simply gave them residency permits. I mean, Patrick, half
- 43:20Speaker 2: a million illegal immigrants.
- 43:23Speaker 6: It's absolutely ridiculous this and you know, obviously you were
- 43:27Speaker 6: told that you can't go around suggesting that some people
- 43:30Speaker 6: are illegal immigrants, even if you know he kind of
- 43:32Speaker 6: looks and feels very much like they are. Anyway, Spain's
- 43:35Speaker 6: given them an amnesty and there are now street parties
- 43:37Speaker 6: in Spain that just look like downtown Bangladesh or parts
- 43:42Speaker 6: of Islamabad in Pakistan. But the problem here is of
- 43:45Speaker 6: course that they have free movement of people for nationals
- 43:48Speaker 6: in the European Union. So if you get residency in Spain,
- 43:52Speaker 6: that means you can travel freely to other countries. And
- 43:54Speaker 6: there's now, of course talk of Spain being booted out
- 43:56Speaker 6: of the Shanganto because other countries are looking at this
- 43:59Speaker 6: and going, well, hang on a minute, we didn't consent
- 44:01Speaker 6: to this. And of course it's a bit of a
- 44:03Speaker 6: shot in the arm for Brexiteers because you know, if
- 44:07Speaker 6: we were to rejoin the European Union, we would have
- 44:10Speaker 6: to sign up to this. Any of these illegal migrants
- 44:12Speaker 6: from parts of Africa, et cetera. I actually visited Seyuta,
- 44:16Speaker 6: which is a Spanish enclave in Morocco, and they realized
- 44:20Speaker 6: the migrants from Africa there that if they got into Seuta,
- 44:25Speaker 6: they were on European Union soil, and so some of
- 44:28Speaker 6: them even used flamethrowers to get through the fences and
- 44:31Speaker 6: attack police officers and then got in. Now those people
- 44:34Speaker 6: will now almost definitely be Spanish citizens. Andrew, I mean,
- 44:38Speaker 6: what does that tell you?
- 44:39Speaker 2: Seriously, honestly, I don't get it either.
- 44:45Speaker 1: It's just crazy.
- 44:46Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Britain's BBC has worked out that legally immigrants are
- 44:49Speaker 2: scamming your country is assylum seekert system, with the help
- 44:53Speaker 2: of a network of lawyers. The trick is, you know,
- 44:57Speaker 2: there's even footage of them being told claim you're actually gay,
- 45:01Speaker 2: that's your only way of getting in here, that you're
- 45:03Speaker 2: facing persecution back home in countries like Muslim Pakistan. And
- 45:08Speaker 2: then the result is that most of one hundred and
- 45:10Speaker 2: seventy five people at one London event attended by this
- 45:15Speaker 2: reporter who happened to speak Urdu it's an event specifically
- 45:19Speaker 2: and only for gay people, turned out. Almost every single
- 45:23Speaker 2: one of them, wasn't gay at all?
- 45:25Speaker 1: Have a look.
- 45:26Speaker 6: One after another, those attending tell our undercover reporter that
- 45:30Speaker 6: many people at the meeting are not really gay.
- 45:35Speaker 9: Madame bait believing it's not one person, Denique.
- 45:40Speaker 1: One person, Daniel, do you know one?
- 45:41Speaker 8: You know one person?
- 45:44Speaker 2: It was bizarre to watch that show. How widespread is
- 45:48Speaker 2: this wrought?
- 45:49Speaker 6: No, it's absolutely massive. Look, loads of illegal migrants are
- 45:52Speaker 6: clearly gay for the stay. We already knew that a
- 45:55Speaker 6: lot of them were con artists, and we thought we
- 45:58Speaker 6: knew that a lot of immigration lawyers were crooked as
- 46:00Speaker 6: a witch's.
- 46:01Speaker 1: Finger as well.
- 46:02Speaker 6: But now we are one hundred percent sure people from Pakistan,
- 46:06Speaker 6: India and Bangladesh who overstay their visas or who came
- 46:09Speaker 6: here illegally in the first place, gain to contact with
- 46:11Speaker 6: these lawyers. They tell them they need to be gay
- 46:14Speaker 6: to stay. But the best bit about this, of course,
- 46:16Speaker 6: is that they say they need to provide evidence, so
- 46:18Speaker 6: they tell them to go to LGBT group meetings, be
- 46:21Speaker 6: pictured having a cocktail at a gay bar, or even
- 46:23Speaker 6: join political groups like get this the LGBT conservatives because
- 46:28Speaker 6: it shows that they remember of some kind of gay group.
- 46:31Speaker 6: The secret recording of one of those LGBT meetings that
- 46:34Speaker 6: you just played there who said not even zero point
- 46:37Speaker 6: not one percent of them were gay. But the best, best,
- 46:40Speaker 6: best bit is this. They've been advised that if you
- 46:42Speaker 6: happen to be from Pakistan, you pretend to be gay,
- 46:46Speaker 6: you stay in the UK, bring your wife over from
- 46:48Speaker 6: Pakistan and the lawyers will do you a spec deal
- 46:51Speaker 6: where they will pretend for her to be a lesbian
- 46:54Speaker 6: and then she can stay and then you can all
- 46:57Speaker 6: be here as a happy family. It is an absent
- 47:00Speaker 6: lot and let's be honest, the lawyers should be prosecuted here.
- 47:03Speaker 6: One of them said that they've been at it for
- 47:05Speaker 6: seventeen years doing this.
- 47:08Speaker 2: It's so weird because one of it also suggests is
- 47:10Speaker 2: that if you're taking people from Pakistan, if that's the
- 47:14Speaker 2: culture there that you faced persecution for being gay, what
- 47:16Speaker 2: are they doing it?
- 47:17Speaker 1: Why are they're being led into Britain?
- 47:19Speaker 2: Is that you know, I mean the gay lobby in
- 47:21Speaker 2: Britain should have been thinking twice about what their politics
- 47:25Speaker 2: are here.
- 47:26Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent.
- 47:28Speaker 6: I mean also the women's rights issues, right, so you know,
- 47:31Speaker 6: if you think about it, you've got load of people
- 47:33Speaker 6: on the left who are obviously, you know, massively pro LGBT,
- 47:36Speaker 6: especially the ta bit of that, I think, and obviously
- 47:40Speaker 6: massively pro women's rights. I mean, we're all pro women's rights,
- 47:42Speaker 6: don't get me wrong. But there is a blind spot
- 47:44Speaker 6: here where you see that. You know, women are often
- 47:47Speaker 6: treated like second classists. Not always, but you know, fairly
- 47:50Speaker 6: often in certain cultures. Aren't they not really allowed to work,
- 47:53Speaker 6: certainly discourage from working. You've obviously got the bull face coverings.
- 47:56Speaker 6: I don't know how often that is entirely consensual, the
- 47:59Speaker 6: role of women in the home when it comes to
- 48:01Speaker 6: just general levels of concern, all of that stuff.
- 48:02Speaker 1: We know all about that.
- 48:03Speaker 6: There's a blind spot there when it comes to that.
- 48:06Speaker 6: And obviously the fact that in plenty of these countries
- 48:08Speaker 6: you will literally be stoned to death if you are homosexual.
- 48:11Speaker 1: But you know that's all right.
- 48:12Speaker 6: In fact, what they've decided to do with the left
- 48:14Speaker 6: in this country is not just ignore it. They've decided
- 48:17Speaker 6: to form a political alliance with these people. And let's
- 48:20Speaker 6: be honest, there's only going to be one winner there
- 48:23Speaker 6: in the long run.
- 48:24Speaker 2: An yes, not just the lawyers, of course. Patrick Christ
- 48:30Speaker 2: is always great to talk to you. Thank you so
- 48:32Speaker 2: much see you next week. Well that's it from me.
- 48:36Speaker 2: And last night I said the Pope hadn't condemned the
- 48:41Speaker 2: people of Iran, the regime in Iran. He had, he said,
- 48:45Speaker 2: his thoughts had turned to what's happening these days in
- 48:47Speaker 2: the Middle East. In Iran, when they were killing protests,
- 48:51Speaker 2: that's it. Didn't condemn the regime at all. Honestly, Up
- 48:55Speaker 2: next Sherry, hosted by Steve Price.
- 48:58Speaker 1: Good Night,