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- 0:54- Hi, everyone. This is Elizabeth Cassello with the
- 0:56- Becker's Payer Issues podcast.
- 0:59- I'm thrilled today to be joined by doctor
- 1:00- Rhonda Randall, executive vice president and chief medical
- 1:04- officer of UnitedHealthcare's
- 1:05- commercial business and also a board member of
- 1:08- the UnitedHealth Foundation.
- 1:09- Doctor. Randall, we're so excited to have you
- 1:11- today, and I look forward to discussing the
- 1:13- UnitedHealth Foundation's America's Health Rankings 2026 senior report
- 1:17- with you. Thank you for having me.
- 1:20- So before we jump in, could you just
- 1:22- give our listeners a little bit of context
- 1:23- about you,
- 1:25- your health care career, and your current role
- 1:26- at UnitedHealthcare?
- 1:28- Certainly. Well, I'm a board certified family physician
- 1:31- and a fellowship trained geriatrician,
- 1:34- and I have over two decades of experience
- 1:36- in the health care industry,
- 1:39- both as, a direct provider of care, particularly
- 1:42- in,
- 1:43- the senior care space,
- 1:45- home care, long term care, hospice and palliative
- 1:47- care,
- 1:48- as well as in, health plan experience, including
- 1:52- Medicaid, Medicare,
- 1:54- and employer based health plans.
- 1:56- So this report came out a little while
- 1:58- ago, so I'd love to hear what your
- 2:00- biggest takeaways are as we dive into this
- 2:02- conversation a bit.
- 2:04- Well, it's been an honor to serve as
- 2:06- as one of the scientific advisers for this
- 2:09- report since its inception.
- 2:11- And now,
- 2:12- in its fourteenth publication,
- 2:14- the,
- 2:16- America's Health Rankings Senior Report builds on that
- 2:19- more than thirty five year foundation of the
- 2:22- America's Health Rankings suite of reports.
- 2:25- Those broader suite of reports include more than
- 2:27- 50 different publicly available data sources and more
- 2:30- than 250
- 2:32- measures of our comprehensive
- 2:34- health. And I always like to start by
- 2:36- grounding in what this report means and what
- 2:38- it says, and it really is in the
- 2:40- title. This is America's data. It's not UnitedHealthcare's
- 2:43- data. This comes from public data sources.
- 2:45- And it is a broad
- 2:47- as the WHO defines health very broadly, it
- 2:50- includes our,
- 2:52- our individual choices and behaviors around our health,
- 2:55- and it obviously includes the clinical care that
- 2:57- we receive when we go to the doctor
- 2:59- or the hospital and engage with the health
- 3:01- care delivery system.
- 3:03- It includes social and economic considerations
- 3:06- as well
- 3:07- and environmental factors
- 3:09- and and,
- 3:11- most importantly, our health care outcomes.
- 3:14- So the senior report in particular focuses on
- 3:17- older Americans.
- 3:18- And as we look at this report, we
- 3:21- not only look at the changes that happen
- 3:23- year to year, but we look at the
- 3:24- changes that have happened over more than a
- 3:26- decade of reporting on on
- 3:29- health and outcomes in the older adult population.
- 3:32- And this year,
- 3:34- we see some encouraging improvements
- 3:37- in
- 3:38- proactive measures. I'm talking about things like cancer
- 3:41- screening.
- 3:42- Those are on the rise. Physical inactivity
- 3:45- is on the decline.
- 3:47- That measure of physical activity is a survey,
- 3:50- and it asks
- 3:51- seniors who have good or better health how
- 3:54- much physical activity do you get. So more
- 3:56- seniors are moving. That's great. We're also seeing
- 3:59- the number of individuals who are pursuing
- 4:02- careers
- 4:03- as health care professionals in the geriatric space
- 4:05- like geriatricians and geriatric nurse practitioners
- 4:09- and home health aids continues to
- 4:11- increase.
- 4:13- And an important outcome measure that we're starting
- 4:15- to see improvement in is a decline in
- 4:18- premature deaths. So these are years lost,
- 4:21- before the age of 75.
- 4:24- At the same time, I see some concerning
- 4:26- things in here, and some many of them
- 4:28- are preventable.
- 4:29- We're seeing worsening trends in drug deaths, worsening
- 4:33- trends in excessive drinkings,
- 4:35- work worsening trends in suicide,
- 4:38- and then a mixed picture around
- 4:41- food and nutrition
- 4:42- where more seniors than ever are signed up
- 4:45- for the SNAP benefit to get supplemental nutrition
- 4:48- assistance,
- 4:49- often home delivered meals in their home and
- 4:51- other,
- 4:52- assistance with
- 4:53- getting access to healthy food. At the same
- 4:56- time, seniors are telling us they worry
- 4:58- more than ever about food insecurity.
- 5:01- So that's a a complicated,
- 5:04- thing to take a look at there. And
- 5:05- all of this matters because it tells health
- 5:07- care leaders
- 5:08- that healthy aging, it's not just about medical
- 5:12- care. It's also about
- 5:14- social connections. It's about behavioral health. It's about
- 5:17- access to care, affordability, and the conditions where
- 5:19- you live.
- 5:21- So just to give our listeners a little
- 5:22- bit more background, I'll go through some of
- 5:25- the numbers that you just hinted at here.
- 5:27- So the early death rate for adults aged
- 5:29- 65 to 74 dropped two percent between 2023
- 5:33- and 2024.
- 5:34- But compared to 2019 to 2021,
- 5:37- drug deaths were up thirty eight percent for
- 5:39- older adults from 2022 to 2024,
- 5:42- and suicides increased four percent over that same
- 5:44- period.
- 5:45- As well, excessive drinking increased ten percent for
- 5:48- older adults between 2023 and 2024.
- 5:51- So can you break down some of those
- 5:53- trends there, especially given how the early death
- 5:55- rate has been improving?
- 5:57- Yeah. Thank you. You know, this this report
- 5:59- contains
- 6:00- over 56
- 6:02- measures in five categories of our health coming
- 6:05- from more than two dozen public data sources.
- 6:08- And
- 6:09- those measures give us a really good comprehensive
- 6:12- look at what our health is happening at
- 6:14- a local, state, and national level.
- 6:17- And although the report doesn't tell us at
- 6:20- a major level cause and effect, we certainly
- 6:22- can see correlations,
- 6:24- measures that are related to each other,
- 6:26- and gives us a good insight to how
- 6:28- that complexity
- 6:30- intersects.
- 6:31- What I mean by that when you ask
- 6:32- a question about that early death rate dropping,
- 6:35- what are some of the reasons for that?
- 6:38- Certainly,
- 6:39- after a period of time, the more we
- 6:42- as individuals make healthy choices
- 6:44- about physical activity, about not smoking, about healthy
- 6:48- weight,
- 6:49- and
- 6:50- avoiding avoiding excessive alcohol use and substance use,
- 6:54- for example, we see improvements
- 6:57- in longevity
- 6:58- over time. We also see that as we
- 7:01- have more
- 7:02- access to care,
- 7:04- and
- 7:05- more preventative
- 7:06- screenings, you see years of that culminate in
- 7:09- improvement in the early death
- 7:11- rate. But we also see that some of
- 7:14- those opportunities,
- 7:16- and on the other side, some of those
- 7:17- burdens
- 7:18- are not evenly distributed
- 7:20- even at a state level.
- 7:22- So you can see in older men, for
- 7:24- example, they have
- 7:26- substantially higher rates
- 7:28- of drug deaths, of excessive drinking, and of
- 7:31- suicide
- 7:32- than their female counterparts.
- 7:34- That tells us it's not just a broad
- 7:37- aging issue. We really do need to look
- 7:39- at subpopulations
- 7:40- so that if you are a
- 7:42- a health care leader, if you're a policymaker,
- 7:44- or if you're an individual, you understand what
- 7:47- that means for you at a local level
- 7:49- and where you need to target those resources
- 7:51- and and and,
- 7:53- provide support.
- 7:54- So you can see all of these trends
- 7:56- happening
- 7:57- at the same time because they're reflecting the
- 8:00- complexity of those different dimensions of our health.
- 8:03- So I'm encouraged to see that we're living
- 8:05- longer,
- 8:07- but
- 8:08- there are headwinds here that concern us as
- 8:11- well. So those pieces around
- 8:14- prevention, treatment, chronic disease management,
- 8:17- we know we can't medicalize
- 8:18- ourselves out of some of these. So, you
- 8:21- know, where we're seeing
- 8:22- drug deaths, suicide, and excessive drinking
- 8:25- are persistent. And in the senior population,
- 8:28- that increase in drug deaths was the only
- 8:31- population
- 8:32- that we saw an increase in The United
- 8:34- States.
- 8:35- And there sometimes are biases where when we
- 8:38- think about drug deaths, we're not thinking of
- 8:41- older adults, and we should be. And this
- 8:43- report calls,
- 8:44- calls that to attention.
- 8:47- Okay. So you also talked about
- 8:49- bright spots a little bit earlier. So you
- 8:52- touched upon physical activity, and then the other
- 8:54- thing I saw in the report was state
- 8:56- specific strengths for older adults in rural communities,
- 8:59- and you talked about other sorts of proactive
- 9:01- measures as well. So,
- 9:03- could you talk a little bit more about
- 9:04- the correlations,
- 9:06- with those ones?
- 9:08- Yeah. It's important to note that as this
- 9:10- report looks at
- 9:12- 56 measures of our health across these five
- 9:15- broad categories coming from more than two dozen
- 9:18- sources of public information
- 9:20- that we really look at that complexity of
- 9:23- the intersection of each of those
- 9:26- factors.
- 9:27- And we can put together correlations
- 9:30- and make some assumptions of things that are
- 9:32- in other publicly reported sources about what may
- 9:36- be,
- 9:36- causing some of the trends that we're seeing.
- 9:39- However, the report doesn't show us
- 9:42- clear cause and effect at a major level.
- 9:46- But what I can tell you when we
- 9:47- look at things like increases in,
- 9:50- excessive
- 9:52- drinking, increases in substance use, increases in suicide,
- 9:56- increases in drug deaths, It's really important to
- 9:59- pay attention to these trends in the senior
- 10:01- population
- 10:02- because they're reflecting
- 10:03- different dimensions of health. And some of the
- 10:05- things that are going well,
- 10:08- like prevention,
- 10:10- cancer screenings,
- 10:12- treatment for chronic disease, etcetera, are happening at
- 10:15- the exact same time that we're seeing increases
- 10:17- in drug deaths and suicide.
- 10:19- So that points to
- 10:22- some concerning
- 10:23- things that are on the rise. For example,
- 10:26- a very important point here is that older
- 10:28- adults were the only age group in The
- 10:30- United States to see an increase
- 10:32- in drug deaths in the most recent period.
- 10:35- So while it either leveled off or improved
- 10:37- for all other demographic areas and, you know,
- 10:40- we know this is a part of an
- 10:41- important national conversation,
- 10:43- it's a reminder that older adults might be
- 10:46- getting missed
- 10:47- in prevention and intervention strategies because there may
- 10:50- be some bias there that seniors aren't the
- 10:52- ones that have substance use disorders or behavioral
- 10:55- health disorders,
- 10:56- and they have a growing trend in this
- 10:58- area. So this report shines a bright spotlight
- 11:01- on that and should be a call to
- 11:03- action for all of us.
- 11:05- So I know you also talked earlier about
- 11:07- some bright spots in the report. And,
- 11:10- one thing that was specifically mentioned were state
- 11:12- specific strengths for older adults and rural communities.
- 11:15- So could you elaborate about what you think
- 11:17- is driving that and any correlations there?
- 11:20- Yeah. That's a great
- 11:21- positive thing that we saw here.
- 11:24- We break every measure
- 11:26- to as many subpopulations
- 11:28- as is in the reported
- 11:30- original
- 11:30- public data.
- 11:32- So
- 11:33- the demographics of where somebody lives in metropolitan
- 11:36- or non metropolitan
- 11:38- are one of those subpopulations that we can
- 11:40- parse out the data. And so what we're
- 11:42- seeing is
- 11:43- better access,
- 11:44- more awareness, and sustain
- 11:46- both community and clinical efforts,
- 11:49- things like cancer screenings,
- 11:51- improvements in physical inactivity,
- 11:54- growth across those work health care workforce measures
- 11:57- that we spoke about earlier, like home health
- 11:59- care workers and geriatricians,
- 12:01- for example. So
- 12:04- physical inactivity,
- 12:05- specifically,
- 12:06- the number of adults who are in fair
- 12:09- or better health,
- 12:10- who reported doing no physical activity or no
- 12:13- exercise in the past thirty days
- 12:16- improved significantly
- 12:17- in this measurement period. And And I'm hoping
- 12:20- that that's reflective of an increased attention to
- 12:23- healthy aging, what's happening in in our communities.
- 12:26- Are they promoting are they safe places to,
- 12:30- get out and get moving,
- 12:32- and that recognition
- 12:33- of how important
- 12:35- muscle mass, bone density, and,
- 12:39- aerobic
- 12:40- conditioning are to maintaining our independence. So as
- 12:44- we
- 12:45- have more birthdays and reach that milestone
- 12:48- of 65 and older,
- 12:50- what's really important is our ability to maintain
- 12:53- our independence and minimize
- 12:55- frailty. Right? So that, that we
- 12:59- retain that independence and we are less dependent
- 13:01- on someone else for our overall health. So
- 13:04- all of those things that we're seeing in
- 13:05- the preventative care, both individual behaviors,
- 13:08- the things that our communities are doing in
- 13:10- the health care workforce
- 13:12- are doing are really important. That rural picture
- 13:15- starts to get more mixed.
- 13:18- So there's still higher burdens on some measures,
- 13:21- but we also see some things that are
- 13:23- healthier for rural adults.
- 13:25- And that's because
- 13:27- that's important because not only do we see
- 13:30- that there may be access issues, but we
- 13:32- see a good thing which might be stronger
- 13:34- social ties. And I think there's been more
- 13:36- and more of a recognition
- 13:38- of something that geriatricians
- 13:40- have known for a long time, which is
- 13:42- how important our social connection is
- 13:44- to our health and our longevity.
- 13:47- So, they we've been measuring and reporting,
- 13:51- for a number of years in this report,
- 13:53- a risk of social isolation.
- 13:56- And
- 13:57- in rural communities, that risk is often lower
- 14:00- than it is in metropolitan areas, which might
- 14:02- be counterintuitive, but it's that access to meaningful
- 14:06- relationships,
- 14:07- that really matters. And there's a lesson there
- 14:10- thinking about what we do to take these
- 14:12- things that are going well and scale them.
- 14:15- So thinking about things that are going well
- 14:18- and also looking at states that might be
- 14:20- struggling a bit more, Vermont, Utah, and New
- 14:22- Hampshire were listed as the healthiest states for
- 14:24- older adults, whereas Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kentucky were
- 14:28- considered the unhealthiest. So, you know, looking at
- 14:31- all of the factors you considered here, what
- 14:33- were the biggest drivers of those rankings, and
- 14:35- does anything stand out in regards to those
- 14:37- states?
- 14:38- Yeah. You point out a really important point
- 14:41- here. The third,
- 14:42- word in the title of this report is
- 14:44- rankings. Right? So,
- 14:46- we are ranking each state in relativity to
- 14:48- one another, not just at a composite level,
- 14:51- but probably even more importantly at a measure
- 14:53- level. So each of those 56 measures
- 14:56- are either ranked or unweighted where we're reporting
- 14:59- them. So 36 of them, we're able to
- 15:01- report a rank on how you're doing as
- 15:04- an individual measure. And I will tell you
- 15:06- that all 50 states
- 15:08- in this report have measures in the top
- 15:11- 10, and all of them have measures in
- 15:13- the bottom 10 once you start to look
- 15:15- at it at an individual 36,
- 15:18- measure,
- 15:19- perspective.
- 15:21- So,
- 15:22- at a high level, when we look at
- 15:24- the states that are ranked the highest, whether
- 15:26- it's the senior report or others, they have
- 15:28- a tendency to be the states that
- 15:30- do really well with
- 15:33- personal choices. So getting physical activity, not smoking,
- 15:37- lower rates of obesity,
- 15:39- lower rates
- 15:41- of alcohol and substance use, for example.
- 15:44- And then, conversely, those states that are the
- 15:46- most challenged,
- 15:48- they have a tendency to struggle with premature
- 15:50- death. And if you look at the root
- 15:52- causes of premature death in those states, it's
- 15:55- the opposite of what we just talked about.
- 15:57- A lot of it is about,
- 15:59- long term healthy choices.
- 16:01- Thank you for giving us a little bit
- 16:03- more context on the rankings component.
- 16:05- But I also want to ask, you know,
- 16:07- for the states that are struggling,
- 16:09- if you're operating a health plan in one
- 16:11- of those states, like, what are some immediate
- 16:13- priorities? Also, just looking ahead, what are more
- 16:16- longer term priorities
- 16:17- that could be used to close gaps there
- 16:19- in regards to some of the measures you
- 16:21- were talking about.
- 16:23- Yeah. Thank you. So if you I put
- 16:24- on, you know, my other hat and and
- 16:27- think about,
- 16:28- the opportunities from a health plan. When when
- 16:30- you see those greater disparities,
- 16:33- it really is important to think about
- 16:37- the comprehensiveness
- 16:38- of the solutions. Right? It's it's whether it
- 16:41- is America's health rankings and you're looking at
- 16:43- the data and you're doing a good job
- 16:45- studying the states that have slow and steady
- 16:48- moved up from
- 16:50- moved up a significant amount in their rank
- 16:52- over thirteen, fourteen years of reporting
- 16:56- on this, you see that it is generally
- 16:59- a comprehensive
- 17:01- effort that got them there. So smoking, for
- 17:04- example.
- 17:05- Right? Not
- 17:06- every state
- 17:07- did that the same.
- 17:09- Not every community handled that the same way,
- 17:12- but in most circumstances,
- 17:13- it was
- 17:14- some type of health care policy.
- 17:17- It was individuals making a decision that I
- 17:19- don't wanna do this anymore. It was their
- 17:22- doctor providing the asking the questions and providing
- 17:24- them with the clinical support they needed and
- 17:26- maybe nicotine
- 17:27- replacement or other therapy, for example.
- 17:30- It might have been,
- 17:32- you know, in in the local community
- 17:34- where local businesses just decided to have smoking
- 17:38- policies, you know, for for their local community.
- 17:40- So you see all of those things
- 17:43- come together in The States that moved up
- 17:45- significantly in that measure. And that's the same
- 17:47- way we think about population health from a
- 17:50- health plan perspective is
- 17:52- what are the what are the,
- 17:54- things that we can do directly around
- 17:57- benefit design,
- 17:59- care coordination, and providing people with an advocate
- 18:02- and a care manager,
- 18:04- to partnering with the primary care physician and
- 18:07- the health care delivery system in particular,
- 18:10- all
- 18:11- altogether in the advancement of health. And then,
- 18:13- and then, you know,
- 18:15- other important constituents like employers
- 18:18- and what they're doing with their strategy.
- 18:21- So thinking about your role more broadly
- 18:24- and your work in the commercial space, but
- 18:26- also your background in geriatrics.
- 18:28- What takeaways do you have as you watch
- 18:30- commercial members age?
- 18:32- Yeah. It's that's a terrific question.
- 18:35- Prior to,
- 18:36- being a chief medical officer of our employer
- 18:39- line of business. I was a chief medical
- 18:40- officer of our Medicare line of business. So
- 18:42- that's actually
- 18:43- a question that I,
- 18:45- absolutely thought about and it was one of
- 18:47- my motivations for wanting to work with employer
- 18:50- sponsored plans.
- 18:51- Is, you know, healthy aging starts now,
- 18:55- right for every one of us at every
- 18:57- stage of life. So whether that's
- 19:00- pediatrics,
- 19:02- adults, or as we're getting getting closer to
- 19:05- a retirement age,
- 19:07- the the importance of
- 19:09- developing those healthy habits, having a primary care
- 19:12- physician, the social connectedness,
- 19:16- and having,
- 19:17- good
- 19:18- transparency
- 19:19- and data reporting for
- 19:22- policy makers and employers,
- 19:24- really plays into all of this. Right? They
- 19:26- need to understand,
- 19:28- where things
- 19:30- are trending
- 19:31- and where things are actionable so that they're
- 19:34- making good decisions on where to invest for
- 19:37- healthier workforce
- 19:38- and healthier communities. So employers,
- 19:41- for example, think it's wise, but they're also
- 19:44- thinking about,
- 19:46- how their future workforce is today in the
- 19:49- education system. Right? And so how do they
- 19:51- think about
- 19:52- the the schools in their communities and
- 19:55- how important graduation rates and those things are
- 19:58- to the health of their future workforce?
- 20:00- And then that continues to flow through as
- 20:03- we get closer to retirement.
- 20:05- Well, as we wrap up, is there anything
- 20:06- else that you wanna touch upon as it
- 20:08- relates to the report?
- 20:10- Yeah. You know, when you think about this
- 20:11- report,
- 20:12- treat it not just as the report came
- 20:15- out this year and there is a significant
- 20:17- trend that happened from 2025
- 20:19- to 2026.
- 20:20- But look at what's happening over the course
- 20:23- of more than a decade's worth of data
- 20:26- here, and don't just focus on
- 20:29- your state ranked number 10.
- 20:32- There's so much there's so much rich data
- 20:34- in that subpopulation
- 20:37- information that really
- 20:38- points to where
- 20:41- taking action can make a meaningful difference in
- 20:43- the lives of individuals in their communities. So
- 20:46- that precision
- 20:48- of reporting
- 20:49- and then what we just talked about a
- 20:51- moment ago, the collaboration
- 20:53- and the multi sector partnership,
- 20:56- that intersection of primary care and public health
- 20:58- is a great example.
- 21:00- And understanding
- 21:02- what we need to do
- 21:03- together,
- 21:05- to work towards
- 21:07- continue to see the gains
- 21:09- that we have and focus on some of
- 21:11- these issues that have concerning trends, like
- 21:14- rising rates of suicide and drug deaths in
- 21:16- a senior population.
- 21:18- But the bright spots are, you know, really
- 21:20- where I wanna wanna leave us. This is
- 21:23- great news that more seniors are physically active.
- 21:27- It's great news that more people have are
- 21:29- inspired to choose careers in taking care of
- 21:32- an aging populations
- 21:34- an aging population.
- 21:36- Right. So there's there's a lot of really
- 21:38- nice bright spots in this report, and that's
- 21:40- a it's a terrific way to conclude.
- 21:42- Doctor Randall, thank you so much for joining
- 21:44- us today. Thank you for having me. Be
- 21:46- well. And to our listeners, you can check
- 21:48- out our website if you would like to
- 21:50- hear more podcasts from Becker's Healthcare. Thank you.