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Set 1: 30 Years and Counting (w/ Greeny) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 2: The Rex was not chasing the Jeep.
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  Speaker 1: Murray!
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  Speaker 2: Murray, you there? You love sandwiches, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to 80. His name is Bo.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That's prime time, baby. I had a crush on Betty Rubble.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 2: He cost them the game last night. Although they won
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Stugatz & Company. The great Mike Greenberg
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  Speaker 1: joins us. And I got to tell you, I was
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  Speaker 1: watching his 30th anniversary yesterday. Congratulations, Greedy. And I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking to myself that I hope that my wife cares
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  Speaker 1: about our 30th anniversary as much as ESPN cared about
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  Speaker 1: your 30th anniversary. How about that?
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  Speaker 3: So the guys, the people who produce the Get Up show, said,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do some stuff for your 30th. I
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  Speaker 3: knew that it was coming because PR reaches out to
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  Speaker 3: you because you're going to get like this Jiminy Cricket
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  Speaker 3: statue that they gave me on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: So it becomes like a thing. And they said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we want to do a little something to celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: I said, great.
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea what it was going to be.
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  Speaker 3: And I had at the same time, like conflicting emotions,
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  Speaker 3: one of which was this is probably too much. Um,
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  Speaker 3: But the other was it was really felt very good,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because I've always been a person who like
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  Speaker 3: I'm never the you know, we've got big, big, big
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  Speaker 3: stars at ESPN. We get a lot of attention and
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  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. And that's just not who
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  Speaker 3: I am. Like, not that I'm shy, not that I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't like to be that person. I don't mean that
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  Speaker 3: to sound falsely modest. It means my personality is just
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  Speaker 3: never going to be that. I'm never going to be
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  Speaker 3: Pat McAfee or Dan Levitard or Stu Gatz or Stephen A.
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  Speaker 3: Smith or someone like that who's constantly in the center
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  Speaker 3: of all the attention. I'm always generally my lot in
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  Speaker 3: professional life has been to be a pass first point
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  Speaker 3: guard and try and make everyone else be great. So
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  Speaker 3: like for one day, it just felt there was sort
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  Speaker 3: of a part of me that felt very good having
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  Speaker 3: everyone saying nice things about me and whatever. And it
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  Speaker 3: didn't it's weird, like it's different from a birthday celebration.
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  Speaker 3: or an anniversary, like, you know, a wedding anniversary, or
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  Speaker 3: your kid's birthday, those are the milestones you're used to, right?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like, when your kids graduate from college, or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, when your daughter wins the
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  Speaker 3: lacrosse national championship, or, which is an experience I've not had,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe someone I know has, or, or, you know, like,
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  Speaker 3: when I turned 50, or whatever, this is totally different
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  Speaker 3: and weird. Like, I have worked at ESPN for 30 years?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's impossible. Like, so it was a weird day
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  Speaker 3: in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I don't know anyone whose daughter won one championship.
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  Speaker 1: I do know someone whose daughter won two. How about that? Mike,
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  Speaker 1: if I told you 30 years ago when you took
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  Speaker 1: the SportsCenter set, were you nervous 30 years ago when
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  Speaker 1: you took the SportsCenter set? I'll finish that question in
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  Speaker 1: a sec.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with this.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely didn't take the SportsCenter set. I was hired
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  Speaker 3: when they created a network called ESPN News. So that's
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  Speaker 3: what the set I took. The reason you don't know
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  Speaker 3: that is because literally no one was watching it. When
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  Speaker 3: we launched that network, there were, I think, eight or
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  Speaker 3: nine of us that started together. I've always thought of
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  Speaker 3: us as almost being like a pledge class. Um, and
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  Speaker 3: some of them are people that you would know was
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  Speaker 3: me and Michael Kim and Dave Feldman, Chuck Garfine, Ian Page.
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  Speaker 3: I don't leave anybody out like Dave Revson. Um, that
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  Speaker 3: was part of the original group and, and, and a
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  Speaker 3: few others. And, you know, my, I would have maybe
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  Speaker 3: once a month or once every two months, they would
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  Speaker 3: let us do sports center. Mostly we were on this
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  Speaker 3: fledgling network called ESPN news that when we first went
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  Speaker 3: on the air was on a total of one cable
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  Speaker 3: system which was in san jose california so when the
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  Speaker 3: san jose sharks played we always led with that no
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  Speaker 3: matter what and we used to we could be like
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  Speaker 3: all right yeah the super bowl has concluded highlights in
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  Speaker 3: a moment but first the sharks took on the blue jackets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah their market built in yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then slowly but surely it you know it grew
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  Speaker 3: into whatever it has ceased to exist now the network
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  Speaker 3: is still there but they don't do we did this
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  Speaker 3: 24-hour sports wheel um So I was most definitely not
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  Speaker 3: on SportsCenter. And was I nervous? Hell yes, I was nervous.
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  Speaker 3: And I was wondering like crazy whether and there were
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  Speaker 3: many times in the early years where I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 3: what the hell did I do here? I made it.
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  Speaker 3: I had the makings of a pretty decent career starting
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  Speaker 3: in Chicago. I had just and it just started to
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  Speaker 3: roll a little bit. And I had a girlfriend that
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  Speaker 3: I knew I wanted to marry. She was still going
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  Speaker 3: to require a lot of talking into on that. And
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  Speaker 3: she most definitely was not moving to the middle of
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  Speaker 3: Connecticut at that point. So on my days off, I
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  Speaker 3: was flying back and forth to Chicago every single week.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I had multiple years when I first started
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  Speaker 3: where I wasn't just nervous, where I actively questioned whether
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  Speaker 3: I had made an enormous mistake in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I was going to ask you if I told
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  Speaker 1: you your first day at ESPN that 30 years later
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  Speaker 1: you'd still be doing it, you would have told me what?
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  Speaker 3: I think I would have been thrilled. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is the only thing I've ever really wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: This is it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's this great video that every once in
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  Speaker 3: a while pops up on my reels where there's a guy.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I knew his name. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: his name is. But he says, don't follow your passion.
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  Speaker 3: Find something you're good at and do that. People who
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  Speaker 3: tell you to follow your passion are already rich. Go
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  Speaker 3: make money doing whatever it is you're good at. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that is good advice generally. I think telling
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  Speaker 3: young people, follow your dream no matter what it is,
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  Speaker 3: is actually not very good advice because then if they
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  Speaker 3: don't find success in whatever it is that they're dreaming of,
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  Speaker 3: they're going to somehow think that they failed when what
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  Speaker 3: they've chosen is something that 0.01% of the population will
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  Speaker 3: ever find success in. Well, that's what I did. I
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  Speaker 3: actually did follow my passion. into something that almost no
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  Speaker 3: one does for 30 years. You and I are extremely
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  Speaker 3: rare examples of this. So I think when I started
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  Speaker 3: out 30 years ago, I think almost everyone in my
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  Speaker 3: family assumed that I would just keep scratching this itch
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  Speaker 3: until I just gave up on it and I wound
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  Speaker 3: up going to law school, which is what everyone always
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  Speaker 3: thought I would do, like my father. And So if
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  Speaker 3: you had told me then, I would have said, holy smoke,
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually going to make it. I can't believe it. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think I would have been thrilled. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Check him out on Get Up, 8 a.m. to 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Eastern every morning. It's a fantastic show. He does a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous job. We all know that, though. Yesterday, I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: that show and I'm thinking, is Sal Pal addressing you
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  Speaker 1: as Michael? the greatest compliment that sports media can give someone. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel you look so happy when, still, 30 years
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  Speaker 1: into this, when you were introducing Sal Pal. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And he calls you Michael. And I think it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. It's become a little bit of an inside joke
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  Speaker 3: with the staff of the show. He used to, he
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  Speaker 3: would come, the name of the show was Mike and Mike, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Golik and I did that show for 18 years.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It was called Mike and Mike. He would come on.
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  Speaker 3: And he would say, Michael, Michael, here's what I've got.
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  Speaker 3: Always Michael and Michael. And so he's just, that's just how,
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  Speaker 3: so it's become like, so one of the reasons I
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  Speaker 3: may be smiling is because every time he says it,
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  Speaker 3: we all kind of look at each other, like how
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  Speaker 3: great it is, but I love his energy. I, I,
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  Speaker 3: I love, there's nothing not to love about Sal.
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  Speaker 1: So good.
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  Speaker 3: He has so much energy as so much sort of a,
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  Speaker 3: Like he loves what he does. Mike Ditka once said
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  Speaker 3: to me about Adam Schefter, I like people who love
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  Speaker 3: what they do. And Adam Schefter loves what he does.
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  Speaker 3: Sal loves, there's nothing in the world he would rather
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  Speaker 3: be doing. than standing on that field where the Ravens
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  Speaker 3: and the commanders are having a joint practice. And he's like,
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  Speaker 3: he texted Dan Quinn that morning, and he's got something
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  Speaker 3: for you. And he's so excited to share it. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what it should be. You know, that's what this
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  Speaker 3: business was. It's why you and I started doing it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's devolved into so much other nonsense that at
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  Speaker 3: its core, It is about what's going on at the
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  Speaker 3: joint practice between the Ravens and the Commanders. And Sal
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  Speaker 3: gets that. So I love it. And yes, he calls
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  Speaker 3: me Michael and I hope he never stops.
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  Speaker 1: And you smile every time you toss it to him.
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  Speaker 1: Not just yesterday, every single time. And I love that.
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  Speaker 1: When did you know he had something for you in
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  Speaker 1: the anniversary? Because anyone who knows Sal Powell knows he's
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  Speaker 1: not letting a marching band get in the way of
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  Speaker 1: his shot. And so he had to plan that out.
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  Speaker 3: OK, yes, I will. That one I had no idea
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  Speaker 3: when it first started to happen, when they first started playing.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, wow, in 30 years, this has never happened.
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  Speaker 3: I've never had a live shot drowned out by a
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  Speaker 3: marching band. You know, it's one thing if you're like
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  Speaker 3: at a game and the stadium is loud and all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of things like that are happening. But like at
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  Speaker 3: this thing, I would not have expected that. I did
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  Speaker 3: not realize until he stopped them and started telling them
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  Speaker 3: what to do. He played it off great. So I
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  Speaker 3: will tell you, the answer to your question is he
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  Speaker 3: had me fooled right up to the point that he
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  Speaker 3: gave it away. And that was awesome. It was, I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was absolutely hilarious. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Uh was rex ryan showing off what was he doing
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  Speaker 1: there i mean golf course right in front of the
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  Speaker 1: house you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what you know what i thought was really weird
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  Speaker 3: about that someone pointed it out to me and i
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: went back and looked at it right Rex was wearing
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  Speaker 3: a glove on his right hand. He plays golf right-handed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that was. I need to confirm
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  Speaker 3: that with him. I'll see him in about a week.
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, if he's left-handed, I'm not aware
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  Speaker 3: of it. I've never played golf with Rex, but he
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  Speaker 3: was wearing a glove on his right hand, which is,
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  Speaker 3: So was he showing off? Was he in a special?
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  Speaker 3: Was he at a golf course you recognized? He lives
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  Speaker 3: on a golf course.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. No, I just marveled. I love Rex. He should
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  Speaker 1: still be the Jets coach. I just marveled at what
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  Speaker 1: a nice community he lived in for getting the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: He was under 500. I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. He got multiple contracts. We got multiple
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  Speaker 3: contracts from the Jets and then another one from the Bills. Yes. So, no,
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  Speaker 3: Rex is doing okay. And yet that does not stop
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  Speaker 3: him from being the most frugal person you have ever
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  Speaker 3: met in your entire life. He was, and I'm not
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: making this up, devastated when Spirit Airlines went out of business.
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  Speaker 3: He was so upset. Right. He would fly Spirit. That
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  Speaker 3: man does not spend any... That's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 3: he can live in a nice place. He doesn't spend
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  Speaker 3: any money. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Big seat, right? Right up front. Big seat for Rex.
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  Speaker 1: That's like first class for Spirit.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You have no idea what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I will confess I never
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  Speaker 3: was on a Spirit Airlines plane.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I remember one time I was
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  Speaker 3: on a Southwest Airlines plane. Yes. And that was when
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  Speaker 3: I learned that you don't get a seat assigned to you. Right.
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  Speaker 3: You just have to get up and fight for it
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  Speaker 3: like it's Lord of the Flies. And you're just like
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  Speaker 3: getting on the plane and you're like, what do you
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  Speaker 3: mean I've got to sit backwards? Like I cannot face
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  Speaker 3: the wrong way on an airplane. I can't even sit
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  Speaker 3: in the back seat of a car where I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to get nauseous. You're telling me I've got to fly backwards?
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  Speaker 3: From Hartford to Fort Lauderdale, facing the wrong way.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to.
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  Speaker 3: End very badly. So that was my experience with that.
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  Speaker 3: So that's Rex's favorite airline. Whatever the standing is you
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  Speaker 3: get on that, whatever the equivalent of mileage plus, whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is, he's got it. Now, I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: it gets you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is they give you for
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  Speaker 3: that because they have nothing. There's no food.
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  Speaker 1: They literally have nothing right now.
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  Speaker 3: You are our highest rated customer. And for that, you
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  Speaker 3: receive nothing but our appreciation. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Just to update you, since then, since you last flew Southwest,
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  Speaker 1: they have changed their policy. They now assign seats, okay? Oh, really? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You can get an aisle seat now. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to sit backwards.
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  Speaker 3: OK.
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  Speaker 1: And I said backwards.
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  Speaker 3: I said.
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  Speaker 1: And on and on Spirit, they have four big seats
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  Speaker 1: in the first. I think it's the first row. And
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  Speaker 1: that's their first class. They're gigantic, enormous seats. You're first
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. So they don't have that anymore. You're
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  Speaker 1: I was happy to hear you say that. But I
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  Speaker 1: am wondering, the thing at ESPN over the last 30
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  Speaker 1: years that you haven't done that you wish you had done,
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  Speaker 1: and you've done mostly everything, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: What do I wish I had done? Boy, it's very
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: tough to say. We're going to get the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: this year, and I'm going to have some role in that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's certainly something I've never done that I'm super excited
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  Speaker 3: to do. Right. Uh, there had never been a point
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  Speaker 3: where I could have done it before. Um, so that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Um, you've hosted a big morning show.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you've done, you've hosted two shows like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: between Mike and Mike and, and, and this one, I
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  Speaker 3: do the NFL. Now I did the NBA for a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years. Um, You know, I've never been involved
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  Speaker 3: in the baseball coverage. Well, okay, I'll give you one.
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  Speaker 1: I think I have one for you. I have your answer,
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  Speaker 1: but go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know why it took me so long
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  Speaker 3: to think of it, but it's golf.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I would like, so there was one year, it was 2019,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: which happened to be the year that Tiger won, that
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: they sent me down there and I got to do
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit of stuff. Not the actual telecast. But
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: on Thursday and Friday in the mornings, people who are
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: golf fans probably aware of this, we do something that
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: is called SportsCenter at the Masters. And we're allowed to
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: show shots up until two or three o'clock in the afternoon.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: There's no live coverage, but you're allowed to show shots
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: a short while after they've been hit. So it's almost
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: like you're seeing it live. And I got to do
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: two hours of that on Thursday and two hours of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: it on Friday. And then I hosted SportsCenter stuff from there.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: the rest of the weekend. And I loved it. It
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: was fantastic. And then the following season, they gave me
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: the NFL draft and that's two weeks later. And so
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I couldn't do it anymore. So I, someday, like, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: don't know when this is going to happen, but there's
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: going to come a time in my life. I don't,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: at this moment, I don't feel like it's soon, but
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: there's going to come a time in my life where
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to want to work as much as
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I'm working now. And the two things I would like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: to do then is, So either of them or both
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: of them would be get significantly involved in golf in
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: some way. Wouldn't necessarily have to even be in broadcasting.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Like I'd love to be involved somehow with the tour
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: or with the USGA, or I don't know what that
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: would look like. I don't know what it would mean.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not an executive. Something with golf, because I just
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: love it that much. And the other thing is that
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: eventually I will go back and do a radio show again.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: If there's one thing I miss sometimes- It's the ability
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: to just sort of vamp, just to sort of talk
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: extemporaneously about funny things that happened to me in my life.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Not the sports stuff. Right. Like the sports stuff is easy.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I've got room to do that every day if I
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: want to. But, you know, this when something weird and
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: funny happens to you in your life, as you have
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: on the air for decades and I did on the
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: air for decades, you just talk about it in the
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: middle of your radio show. And I miss that. Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And I would like, you know, I've said this. This
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: is not the first time I've said this publicly. Like
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I could see myself doing it, living down somewhere vaguely
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: near where you live. I really like the East Coast
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: of Florida. And so, you know, something doing it from
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: down there. So that's my eventually plan. But I don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: know if, you know, I'll know when it I'll wake
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: up one day and think, OK, I think I'm getting
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: close to that right now. I don't feel anywhere near it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: There is a there's an empty seat right next to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: me in the studio. If you would. I mean, just
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that'd be great.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you would have actually a very
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: good show.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, no question about it. Speaking of me and you,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the two shows that we did together, the two glorious
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: days that I filled in for Golic doing Mike and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Mike with you. Where do those rank over the 30
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: years in terms of your all time greatest days? at ESPN.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They had to be top five, right?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were very, very high. We had, I
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: do recall that we had a lot of fun. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: do recall there was what I forget what the, did I,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: did my microphone break or something? Yes. I came over
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and I, cause I still, I have this mental picture of,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: of like me leaning over you and we're talking into
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: one microphone. Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Your mic broke. You had to stroll over to my,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I had to fill five seconds. I was very nervous.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Mike and Mike, I mean, Jesus, You had to walk over.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: You use my microphone. You and I had a conversation
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: speaking into the same mic. Yes.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Like we're like we're Paul McCartney and George Harrison, like singing,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: singing the background on. on, on I feel fine.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: That's what I pictured you two back to back going.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And then the Yankees won.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I think it kind of was like that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, those were fun days. You know, someone asked
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: me yesterday, like, what's the, my, my, my, my favorite
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: memory or whatever it is about, And I have two
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: things from the 30 years, if you will, because what
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed the most and what I'm the most proud
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of are probably two different things or they are, they
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: are two different things, right? The most enjoyable time definitely
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: was 2006. So in 2000, Mike and Mike started in
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: 2000 and we were, we started developing a little popularity
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and whatever it was, but you know, we were still a,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: we were still sort of a very niche thing. In 2006,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: they moved our simulcast to ESPN2. All of a sudden
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: our show went on ESPN2 and it exploded. Like it
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: just changed everything. The power of television. If you, if
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I ever wondered about it, I certainly stopped wondering then
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: within a few months, we were on the Letterman show
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: and we were at the white house and all kinds
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of stuff happened. And the show just exploded. And I
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: went from being no one to being as close to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: someone as I was ever going to be. And that
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: was really fun. Like just running around and, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: all these exciting things happen. I think that was the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: most fun I ever had in my 30 years at
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: ESPN was that little period of time. You know, when
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: that show was, as you know, we literally did whatever
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: we wanted. So whatever we felt like talking about that day,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: we would. And so that was fun. The thing I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: proudest of is we launched the new show. We launched
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Get Up in the spring of 2018. And I still
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: have like a file of articles that were written in
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: newspapers and online, not saying that the show was failing,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: but saying that it had failed. Get Up is a disaster.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: It's the worst decision ESPN ever made. I was the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: captain of the Titanic. And again, it's one thing for
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: someone to tell you you're doing badly. It's another thing
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: for like the world's perspective to be you're done. It's over.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You have failed. You tried this and it did not work,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: which wouldn't have been the end of the world, but
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you know, it would not have been great.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: No one likes failure in their life, Mike, of course.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of the fact that, that, you know, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: remember I said to Stace, like, here's what I'm going
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to do. Like you're, you're, you're in charge of looking
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: at social media for me from now on for sure.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to read anything. I'm not going to
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: look at what anyone is saying. You tell me if
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: there's something I absolutely need to know outside of that,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm ignoring what the world is saying. I'm going to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: put my head down and I'm going to figure out
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: how to fix this freaking thing. If it is the
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: last thing that I And, um, and we did, you know, and, and,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and so I'm very proud of that because it's one
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: thing that like Mike and Mike started from nothing and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we just sort of built it gradually and slowly and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: it turned into whatever it turned into. GetUp started under
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: like a very, very harsh microscope. People were watching closely
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and we had a lot of stuff wrong at the beginning.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: We just did. We just had, you know, we, we
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: made a series of educated guesses of what we thought
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: would work and almost all of them turned out to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: have been wrong. And, you know, that looked like it
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: was in real trouble. It didn't look like it. It
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: was in real trouble.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: And but, you know, we we fixed it. And so
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm proud of that. So those those are the
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: two things I thought about yesterday.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: You're the you're the Baker Mayfield of sports television hosts.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You use it as a chip on your shoulder.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You did.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: You found the chip and you used it. How about that?
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting because every once in a while,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know that it's, you know, Like you reach
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: a point where you're like, what the hell?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Like someone will be like, you suck, Greenberg. And I'll
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: be like, okay.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You know, do I? Fine, I suck.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Yes. You're welcome to that opinion. You're most certainly not
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the only person who has it. You know what's interesting?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I don't read. So Twitter X, whatever it's now called,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: or however people are referring to it, has gotten to
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: be so horrible. that I can't even look at it anymore.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Like I barely ever look at it. But yesterday I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: looked at it, you know, because people were writing me
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and there were quite a few nice messages, but then
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: there were a ton of horrible ones. But what I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: find most interesting is that when someone writes you a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: horrible message, like ESPN celebrating 30 years, and then there's
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: someone who will write back, 29 too many. This guy sucks. Whatever,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: whatever horrible thing it is. Then someone invariably will fight
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: for me. So like someone will respond to that guy,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: defend me. And then they get into a fight and
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I want to pull up the guy who's defending me
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and say, listen, I can't tell you how much I
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: appreciate this, but in all honesty, like don't worry about it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Let it go. I'm good with it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This just isn't, this just isn't that deep. You know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: like this guy can say that and it's really not
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: having an impact. I so appreciate what you're trying to do.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But so I forget what, oh, so the chip, but
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I do, I will admit every once in a while,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I do enjoy looking back and reading them. Of course.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: It's actually still a little part of me that gets nervous. Yes.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I read them and I'm like, oh, Jesus. I have
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to remind myself this was written in 2018.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And all is well because people wrote the most, I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: just horrible things.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: So I still do read them every once in a while.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I do. Yep.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I do the same. When Dan and I started down
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: here in Miami, someone wrote a column in the paper.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: They called us Sissy Boy Radio. They said this show
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: is going to fail. It's never going to succeed. We
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: were the highest rated show in the market six months later.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And 20 years later, we had, you know, Hall of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Fame careers. But I do look back at those articles.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I read them and I feel good about what we accomplished,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: There is something to be said for that, for just
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: having overcome whatever it is. people expected and, and whatever.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And it's, it, I know down deep inside, it's absolutely
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the wrong way to look at it. Like you should
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: define your own self and define your own happiness and
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: be proud on your own merit and not have to say, see,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I told you so, but every once in a while,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: it is kind of nice. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: It feels good.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I told you so.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: This is why you love sports radio. We'll get you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: out of here in a second. We were just having
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a conversation. This is not something you could probably do
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on get up. You could have done it with Mike
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Golick back in the day. But if you could only
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: use one utensil for the remainder of time, a fork,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a spoon, or a knife, which one is Mike Greenberg
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: going with? He likes that question.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I love that question.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: This is exactly what he misses.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming, not that I'm saying I would go with this,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming that you cannot say a spork.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Like they used to give you at Kentucky Fried Chicken? No.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: That is a spoon with a fork with little forks
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: attached to it?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: No hybrid situation here, okay? Just a fork, a spoon,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: or a knife, you know? It's tough.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I think the most versatile of the three is the knife.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Because you can cut something and spear it to eat it. Now,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you're going to really struggle with soup. And I like soup.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So do I.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: But I think the other thing about soup is that
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: it can be drunk without any utensil.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I don't pour it that way, but it is conceivable.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Like you can't do that with a steak. I mean,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: you can, but.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: So I think the spoon is out. I think it's
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: definitely either the fork or the knife.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: The question is how effectively Because you could use the
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: fork for most soups too. Yes.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: But what you're debating here is can the fork cut
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: as well as a knife? You can eat with a knife.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: You can eat with a fork. But can the fork
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: cut as well as the knife can cut, right?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it obviously can't cut as well as the knife
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: can cut. But can it cut passably well enough most
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: things that you'll still– otherwise what you're doing is if
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: you're eating like a steak or a large– like a
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: chicken breast or anything that is large, you're spearing it
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: with the fork if you can't get it to cut–
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: You're then picking it up to your mouth and you're,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you know, taking a bite off and putting it back down.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: And you're most, let's put it this way. You better
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: be long married by that point because you will never
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: get a woman. You will never attract a woman doing that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: And early in a marriage, your wife will leave you
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: if you're doing that. Like you gotta be, you gotta
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: be committed beyond the point of return. Yes. That's why
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going knife because I think you can
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: still cut. Do you get multiple of them? So what
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is I can only have one denomination.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You get knives for life.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Unlimited knives.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Okay. Then you can hold something down with the knife. Oh, no.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: You can only use one at a time. Only one
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: at a time. Yes. One knife at a time.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: That was the question. You can only have one at
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: a time.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Only one at a time. Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: But you want a clean one. I know that. So
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you can use a new one every time. That's all.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going to go with the knife.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's the right answer.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: But I think it's a good question. You know what's
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: going to happen is I'm going to wake up in
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: the middle of the night and I'm going to teach myself.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: If you go out to dinner with Stacey tonight and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: drink the soup straight out of the bowl, is she
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: staying with you?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: She's not here right now, but she'll find that funny.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Let's put it this way. She's almost 29 years into
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: this thing. But if I actually tonight at dinner were
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to spear a chicken blessing, with a knife and just
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: start eating it like it was an ice cream cone.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: There are not too many things that I think at
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this point which you would consider a deal breaker, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that might be it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: That's so good. All right, we'll get you out of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: here in one minute. Again, congratulations on the 30th anniversary.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Mike Ie has to pick up his kids from school.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: You are certainly familiar with those responsibilities. So one minute
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: on the state of the Jets, your mind, on the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Jets going into 2026. I, in particular, do not like
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the amount of people who are telling me the Jets
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: are going to be good. Your thoughts?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Well, how are they defining good?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Well, the offense is good. They have weapons.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Fun team to watch is what they're telling me.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I think they have a real chance to be decent.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I think that Apex is like seven or eight wins.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I think if anyone is telling you the Jets are
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: going to go 11-6, I would try and bet them
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: on almost anything that they're willing to bet you on.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: But I do think I am not one of these
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Jet fans.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I've got Jet fans who are like, the Jets.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Need to go 2-15 and get Arch and whatever else
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: it is. And I'm not one of those. I'm done
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: with that. I think they need, they have a bunch
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of young players. The core of the team remains young
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and talented. The two offensive tackles, Garrett Wilson, the two
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: tight ends. There's a bunch of young guys on this team.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: They need to win. They need not to hate it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: They need not to think, God, this is a place
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I need to get out of as quickly as possible.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Because then if you do draft Arch Manning or Dante
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Moore or whoever it winds up being, you're just going
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: to ruin them like we've ruined guys before. I think
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: one of two things is going to happen. Either the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Jets are going to be way better than they were
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: last year. And that may not show itself in the records.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: That might still be 6-11, but competitive in 15 out
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of 17 games, which I think would be an enormous
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: step forward. Or what I'm a little worried about is
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: that Aaron Glenn really is not a good head coach,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: which is an opinion that I found myself having many,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: many times last year. In which case, this season will
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: go down in flames. The Jets will be bad. He'll
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: get fired. And then we'll see what happened. Now, where
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: did I see yesterday? I'm just sitting around minding my
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: own business. Where did I see yesterday something about Lamar
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Jackson and Mike Tomlin?
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Jason Locke and Forna.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mikey A sent it to me, and I wanted
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to respond to him. Hey, can we get through this
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: season first before we focus on next season? But we're
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Jet fans, and so we're always focused on the next season.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: If you told me that could happen, then... Then I'd
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: sign up for whatever you wanted this year. I mean,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: that would be like Lamar Jackson does not have it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Everyone keeps saying like he'll sign a contract extension whenever
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: he decides to sign a contract extension. I think that
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: they have built everything around him in Baltimore now the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: way he wants it. So I have to believe he's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: going to stay.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: If you told me that there was some world in
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: which the Jets could have Mike Tomlin as their coach
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson as their quarterback next year, Well, that
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: would be a pretty good world.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I would do just about– I mean,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I would suffer through anything that you had to suffer
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: through to get to that regardless.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, just suffer through one more bad season? Okay.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I've been suffering for 15 years. It wouldn't be that complicated.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: 15 years ago. Think about how long ago 15 years
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: ago was. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Well, how about 30?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: That's the last time the Jets were in the playoffs.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Inc. Yes, you're right. What's one more year on top
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: of that, if we can get those guys, but I
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: think that that's probably a pipe dream on every level. Yes.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: So I think that the best case scenario is that
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: we do show market improvement that Gino Smith does play
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: well enough that you actually get the weapons actually get
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: to sort of show off what they're capable of. They
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: win some games. They have three first-round picks next year.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: If they want to get up high in the draft,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: they will. There are going to be a lot of
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks in next year's draft. I would rather see them
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: win games and be competitive than tank and wind up
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: with the first pick.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: All right. We appreciate you doing this. Congratulations on the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: 30 years. I think a lot of people said this yesterday,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and I share their sentiments. You're the best we have
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: in this business, Greeny. Great host, even better person. And
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that's the most important. So congratulations to you, sir.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. From you, that means a lot.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I don't like anyone, Greeny. You know that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying for you to say nice things about
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: me and not follow it up with a joke about yourself,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: not about me, I think is the ultimate. So I
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Yes.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You've been great to me. And I know you've been
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: great to many, many others. at ESPN, and we're all
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: grateful for it. So thank you, Gritty. Congratulations, man. This
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: was great.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: It's good to see you guys.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, always. Thank you, sir.