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JFK ASSASSINATION - Ep. 388 - Kiss From A Rose · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 2: We're We're well go. What's up? Everybody? Welcome into the show.
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  Speaker 2: This is the lone Cooming podcast. This is episode were
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight. Kiss from a Rose, I'll
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  Speaker 2: spare you my ceiling personation and from singing that song
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  Speaker 2: because that's something nobody wants to hear. Trust me, trust me,
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  Speaker 2: trust me, trust me. And as you can see, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so listen Joels tonight audio issues. Hey, yeah, but it
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  Speaker 2: is what it is, so we power ahead. So let's
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  Speaker 2: first welcome in everyone to the show. South to West
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  Speaker 2: with the gold medal. O Rose got run over on
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  Speaker 2: the side of the road. That she did, that she did.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll get there. I promise no spoiler alerts. Come
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  Speaker 2: on South to West. Trey sliding in in the comments.
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  Speaker 2: He's second, he got the silver, but he's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: eating some big fat, juicy sirloins. At Rooster Chris tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't blame you. I'd rather be doing that
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  Speaker 2: than being here as well. But here we are, Steve O,
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  Speaker 2: Steve O coming in with the bronze third place in
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  Speaker 2: the comment section. How are you doing? I am doing fine, Steve?
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Sir? Mister P. Saunders? Every Rose has
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  Speaker 2: its power ballad. Hey, that would have been a good
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  Speaker 2: alternative title to this show as well. Every Rose has
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  Speaker 2: a Thorn. That's even a better title than the one
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  Speaker 2: I have. So I don't know why I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: of that. You are awesome, Jack? What's up? Jack? Welcome in, sir,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in, Welcome in Toopsie from down Under now having
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  Speaker 2: Ringo star hallucinations creating Joe b more and more. Oh Ai,
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  Speaker 2: how do you know those aren't my prompts? Sir? No,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny because I don't have a good recent picture
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  Speaker 2: of Joe without sunglasses on. So when I tell the
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  Speaker 2: AI to take the sunglasses off of Joe, you know it,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't really do his face justice, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Like I don't know it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I could leave the sunglasses on, but funnier
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  Speaker 2: if he looks like a monkey if you ask me,
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  Speaker 2: somewhat monkey ish monkey lake features. Oh d w Derek
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  Speaker 2: Ward in the house, what's up? Derek might be watching
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  Speaker 2: the replay catching this later. That's cool, cool with me.
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  Speaker 2: Zendar up in the house. Zendar lose Indar smashing away
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  Speaker 2: on the drum. Kid baby, Oh shit, it's Anthony Thripp
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  Speaker 2: from down Under Queen carpet salesman. If you need any
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  Speaker 2: carpet down in uh Australia, hit up Request Carpets and
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  Speaker 2: Anthony he will hook you the fuck up. Sally the
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  Speaker 2: Lovely Sally Evening treacles that pictures something else the campdoors
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  Speaker 2: on Joe for starts. Well, yeah, uh, let's take another
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  Speaker 2: look at that real quick. Yeah yeah, I know, I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. Oh you go, Walter, you know
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  Speaker 2: what they say, Sally big ears big, Well it's finished
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  Speaker 2: the rest uh Owen, what's that? Buddy? Evening? All from
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  Speaker 2: the England in the UK slash same thing. Welcome in Owen,
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  Speaker 2: see how Claude, Claude and Dene up in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening from Galveston. Yes, and Dean says, helly you
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  Speaker 2: give it you Deane a big old wet liquoric kiss
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  Speaker 2: for Big Bad Bob, if you will please, Paula Jane
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  Speaker 2: up in the house, Paula, Paula, Hello, Hello, Timothy, Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: it's up town. Good evening, good evening. Anne is in
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  Speaker 2: the house from peach sister's kitchen. Welcome in. And Peaches
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  Speaker 2: is in the house. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Hello, Oh Bart, Hello Bart, Bart camp in the house.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, mister Bart, Thank you for joining us this evening. Stir.
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  Speaker 2: You must be uh, you must be up late tonight
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  Speaker 2: and that's okay that I know what that means. So hey,
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  Speaker 2: tiny tiny sliding in a little late, better late than never? Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Delta Dawn. What's that flower you have on? Could it
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  Speaker 2: be a faded rose? Some days gone by? And I
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  Speaker 2: did I hear you say? He was a meeting you
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  Speaker 2: here to Oh? This is a song? This is a song? Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: thankfully I did not sing it. Good Lord Scott, Hello Scott,
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  Speaker 2: what's up, Scott? Welcome in, Scott. You had the pleasure
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  Speaker 2: of meeting Sally Kirkling, the actress who played Rose sharing
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  Speaker 2: me uh in the Oliver Stone movie JFK. Who recently
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  Speaker 2: asked and it's just quite interested in the story. Hell yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Derek Shwindleman. Welcome in, Derek, Evening, evening, evening. Yes, happy Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Thank the good lord, Paul and ITCHI woh what's up? Paul? Hello? Hello,
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  Speaker 2: Joline Darling up in the house. What's up? Joline? Hello? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: M hmm, I think that is everybody. No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: The asteroid is coming. The butler did it? Thank you
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  Speaker 2: have the wrong podcast, sir, or you're playing clue or something.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows. Oh, I think we got everybody. Good lord,
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  Speaker 2: it is a full effing house in here tonight. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you guys for showing up and showing out. No, hell no,
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  Speaker 2: we ain't doing that. No, we're not doing that. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I will spare you. Oh yeah, all right. So, unless
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  Speaker 2: you're like a hardcore, hardcore, hardcore, old school hardcore researcher
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  Speaker 2: into the JFK thing, it's likely the lady we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about here tonight, you wouldn't know anything
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  Speaker 2: about nothing. The main reason we know about Rose shareing
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  Speaker 2: me is, of course, from the movie JFK. It's a
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  Speaker 2: great way to open the movie's It makes for a
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  Speaker 2: very intriguing opening scene. It sets the conspiracy tone of
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  Speaker 2: the movie very well, I mean, I understand where it
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  Speaker 2: comes from. And maybe Garrison made more of it later
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  Speaker 2: in his mind than he did at the time, But
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  Speaker 2: he didn't really use anything from Rose share Me in
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  Speaker 2: his Clayshaw prosecution. He didn't subpoena the state trooper who
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  Speaker 2: tended to Rose share Me, Lieutenant Francis Frouge of the
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana State Police. He did not bring him in and
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  Speaker 2: question him, although apparently Fruge would work a little do
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of work for Garrison. But it's something
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  Speaker 2: that Garrison didn't really use at the time. And what's interesting,
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  Speaker 2: as we'll see later on when we come to figure
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  Speaker 2: out who possibly the two people that she was traveling
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  Speaker 2: with on the way to Texas possibly were, because those
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  Speaker 2: two people Garrison definitely tried to definitely tried to look
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  Speaker 2: more into and figure out some stuff about. And there's
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  Speaker 2: some interesting antidotes, an antidotes, if I can say the
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  Speaker 2: word antidotes, anctidotes, anti antecdotes, we'll go with that. That uh,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see you know that, because there's some things that
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  Speaker 2: kind of weave in and out of the story. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll get there. I promise you, I promise you. But
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  Speaker 2: let's start out early, early, early. Now, I do have
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  Speaker 2: a book here entitled a Rose by many other names,
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  Speaker 2: Rose share Me and the jfk Assassination. Now, if you'll
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  Speaker 2: notice here a lot of people spell her name with
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  Speaker 2: an E at the end of share Me, but she
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  Speaker 2: did not. She did not. How do we know this, Well,
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  Speaker 2: she signed a register at the hospital, and this is
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  Speaker 2: how she signed her name, Rose share Me, with ending
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  Speaker 2: in an eye and NOI. This is written by Todd Elliott.
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  Speaker 2: Todd Elliott. Sorry about the glare on this damn thing.
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  Speaker 2: But look, this book is hello thin and I mean hellothin.
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  Speaker 2: And it's small. It's literally small. It's literally eighty pages
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  Speaker 2: eighty pages long. I mean, it's finy. There's not a
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  Speaker 2: lot about her, I mean, and there's you know, some
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of full page there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: full page pictures as well. This one is of uh
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  Speaker 2: Francis Frouget, who we're gonna be talking about here this evening.
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  Speaker 2: And this is him at working Garrison's office, smoking a
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  Speaker 2: smoking a fag, if you will. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pictures in here of Rose share Me as well.
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  Speaker 2: And there's some interesting things in this book. There's also
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  Speaker 2: another book out there written by her son, doctor Michael Marcadis,
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  Speaker 2: which came after this one. He's actually interviewed in this book.
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  Speaker 2: His chapter is two pages long. So you know, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, there's not a lot out there on Rose.
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  Speaker 2: What we do know is of course interesting. But let's
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  Speaker 2: set the table a little bit about Rose share Me.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Rose share Me, he's not a real name.
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  Speaker 2: And let's see. I think in the book here it
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  Speaker 2: lays out, Yeah, she at least had twenty aliases that
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  Speaker 2: she was using over the course of her life. They read.
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  Speaker 2: They ranged from Missus Albert Rodman, Patsy, Sue Allen, Christine Youngblood,
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  Speaker 2: Mickey Rodman, Melville, Christine, Melba Rodman, Melbura, Christina Nichols, Rosa
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  Speaker 2: Lee Stewart, Zada, Marie Johnson, Connie Mackie, Penny, Sue Marcatti's,
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  Speaker 2: Zeta Lynn Gano, Zeida Garretsino, Rosie Lane Evans, Marie Stewart,
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  Speaker 2: Zeta Irene Scars, Zaida Marie Green, Rosie Lane, Edward Words, Roselle,
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  Speaker 2: Renee share Me, Rosella Clinkscales. That's my favorite, Rose el
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  Speaker 2: share Me, Rosalie, Gene Crawford, Connie Mickey, and Zeta Jano.
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  Speaker 2: So that is a wide range of aliases. Now some
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  Speaker 2: of these might be stripper names. I mean, who knows. Right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: we think we know about Rose share Me is that
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  Speaker 2: she was born in Texas in nineteen twenty three, so
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty three she would have been a road
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  Speaker 2: hard forty years old. Okay, Yes, Bart has read the
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  Speaker 2: Marcatti's book. Yeah, I have not read that book. Again,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Marcatti's was a young child at the time, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: maybe seven, and he definitely wasn't living with her. He
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  Speaker 2: was mostly staying with relatives, probably her parents, maybe some cousins,
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  Speaker 2: and she would pop in and out of his life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, months at a time. Gathering Falling Pedals is
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  Speaker 2: the name of the Marcatti's book. Yeah. Yeah, she died
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  Speaker 2: as Melba Christine Marcatti's but she was born uh Melba
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  Speaker 2: was it Christine young Blood I believe was her name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but again, she had a hard life. On her death
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  Speaker 2: certificate it says that she had been divorced. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know who she was married to, or how long they
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  Speaker 2: were married, or if the child was born from the marriage,
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  Speaker 2: or if it was a one off, not really sure,
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  Speaker 2: why is she important? So she had a rough life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she was working odd jobs, stripping, getting in
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  Speaker 2: trouble a lot, a lot. She had a rap sheet
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  Speaker 2: that stretched back to nineteen forty one with twenty eight offenses,
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  Speaker 2: including vagrancy, to car theft, and even aiding soldiers to
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  Speaker 2: escape during the war year, So very weird. In nineteen
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  Speaker 2: forty seven, she was also reported as criminally insane and
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  Speaker 2: it had been arrested on charge as a prostitution hurting,
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  Speaker 2: huoting and drugs alcohol drunk excuse me. Between the ages
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  Speaker 2: of eighteen and twenty four, she would normally give a
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  Speaker 2: name loosely based upon her genuine which was Melba Christine Youngblood.
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  Speaker 2: That was her original name, Melboe Christine young Blood, her
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  Speaker 2: father being one Thomas J. Youngblood. And there's something interesting
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  Speaker 2: about that. But trust me, we'll get back to that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get back to young Blood. By nineteen fifty six,
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  Speaker 2: Melba had married somebody by the name of Marcatte's. This
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  Speaker 2: appears on her record, along with several invented names throughout
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  Speaker 2: the next four years until nineteen sixty. Her death certificate
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  Speaker 2: states that she was a divorce ee but does not
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  Speaker 2: give the date that her marriage ended. Only once prior
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  Speaker 2: to her death does a name by which most JFK
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  Speaker 2: assassinations researchers know her by shows up on police records,
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  Speaker 2: and that is when Roselle Rene sharing Me was charged
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  Speaker 2: on October twenty first, nineteen and sixty four with vagrancy,
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  Speaker 2: her behavior being described as loud and erratic. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: again when she signed into the Musa hospital where Fridge
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  Speaker 2: originally had taken her, she signed in under the name
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  Speaker 2: Rose share Me with an eye, and it would appear
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  Speaker 2: she was still using this name as of October twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: sixty four. So there are rumors, lots of rumors and
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  Speaker 2: allegations and by the time of the HSCA, right, they
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  Speaker 2: actually took the time, specifically Patricia Orr, to really dig
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  Speaker 2: into the Rose share Me story and see if there's
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  Speaker 2: anything there. Now, of course, they paint her in a
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  Speaker 2: pretty bad light, and it says according to accounts of
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  Speaker 2: assassination researchers, a woman known as Rose share Me, a
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  Speaker 2: heroin addict and prostitute with the long history of arrest,
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  Speaker 2: was found on November twentieth, Okay, this is two days
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  Speaker 2: before the assassination folks lying on the road near Eunice, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: bruised and disoriented. She was taken to the Louisiana State
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  Speaker 2: Hospital in Jackson to recover from her injuries. Now, they
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  Speaker 2: don't mention that first, Okay, Frus when he found her,
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  Speaker 2: took her to the Mussa hospital. Like I said, in Unice,
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  Speaker 2: this was a somewhat privateized hospital and she didn't really
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  Speaker 2: have major injuries when he found her. Okay, this whole
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  Speaker 2: mythos that she had been tossed out of a moving
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  Speaker 2: car by these two assholes and left on the side
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  Speaker 2: of the road didn't really doesn't really square with the
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  Speaker 2: injuries that she had. She wasn't that badly injured, if
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  Speaker 2: you will. And there's various accounts of what exactly happened.
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  Speaker 2: Either she was let out somewhere and then hit by
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  Speaker 2: another vehicle as she's walking, or they were at this
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  Speaker 2: bar and she got drunken loud and got thrown out
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  Speaker 2: of the bar and started walking and got hit something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Again, she wasn't badly hurt, but she started
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  Speaker 2: coming down off of whatever she was on while she
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  Speaker 2: so well maybe back up, so frouge or fruge, uh,
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  Speaker 2: picked her back up from the hospital and took her
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  Speaker 2: back to the jail. Figured he'd just keep her there
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  Speaker 2: until she sobered up, but she got a little worse,
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  Speaker 2: so he ends up calling the UH the corner, which
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  Speaker 2: was the closest physician, and they gave her some said
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  Speaker 2: it is but she really really wasn't getting much better,
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  Speaker 2: so he figured he should probably take her to the
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  Speaker 2: Louisiana State Hospital, which happened to be in Jackson, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: which just happens to be a hospital that Lee Harvey
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  Speaker 2: Oswald applied to work at. No shit, uh, which is
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  Speaker 2: interesting now. While there at the Jackson or Louisiana State Hospital,
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  Speaker 2: she reportedly told the attending physician that President Kennedy was
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  Speaker 2: going to be killed on his upcoming trip to Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Again at this point, I believe she was checked in
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  Speaker 2: there on the twenty first, so this is a Thursday
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  Speaker 2: before the assassination. UH. The doctors didn't really pay much
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  Speaker 2: attention to the ravings of a patient going cold turkey
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  Speaker 2: off heroin until after the president was assassinated. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Then it kind of makes you think, well, oh shit,
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  Speaker 2: maybe maybe this lady ain't crazy, Maybe she knows something right.
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  Speaker 2: So they called Frus back and it was like, look, man,
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna believe that this chick. Chick said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she said somebody was gonna kill the president, and damn
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  Speaker 2: if it didn't happen. We thought she was just crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You might want to come back in. So Fruse goes back.
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  Speaker 2: Share Me is questioned at length about everything she reportedly
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  Speaker 2: told police officers. She had been a stripper in Jack
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  Speaker 2: Ruby's nightclub and was transporting a quantity of heroin from
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  Speaker 2: Florida to Houston at Ruby's insistence, when she got in
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  Speaker 2: a fight with two men also participating in the dope run.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy said the men pushed her out of a moving
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  Speaker 2: vehicle and left her for dead. After the assassination, share
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  Speaker 2: Me maintained Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald had known each other.
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  Speaker 2: She also said she had seen Oswald at Ruby's nightclub
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  Speaker 2: and claimed Oswald and Ruby had been diddling each other
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  Speaker 2: homosexual partners, if you will, mister Gasson. Uh. Ironically, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe not so ironically, the circumstances of Rose Sharemy's death
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  Speaker 2: are strikingly similar to this original involvement in the assassination investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert. Rose share Me died of injuries received from
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  Speaker 2: an automobile accident as she's walking on a strip of
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  Speaker 2: highway near Big Sandy, Texas, on September fourth, nineteen sixty five.
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  Speaker 2: The driver stated shearmy had been lying in the roadway,
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  Speaker 2: and although he attempted to avoid hitting her, he ran
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  Speaker 2: over her skull damn, causing fatal injuries. An investigation into
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  Speaker 2: the accident and the possibility of the relationship between the
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  Speaker 2: victim and the driver produced no evidence of foul play,
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  Speaker 2: and the case was closed. Although Shermy's allegations were eventually discounted,
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  Speaker 2: her death two years later prompted renewed speculation about her story.
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  Speaker 2: And she of course gets included in the mysterious death
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  Speaker 2: section of several assassination researchers. So, and of course it's
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  Speaker 2: because of what she said. I mean, she said things,
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  Speaker 2: but she predicted allegedly JFK's murder. She said she was
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  Speaker 2: running dope for Jack Ruby before Jack Ruby killed Lee
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  Speaker 2: Arby Oswell. And she said, well, I mean, of course
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  Speaker 2: Learby Oswell's name was known by November twenty second, but
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily Jack Ruby, but nobody would know his name
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  Speaker 2: until the twenty fourth, but he went back to talk
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  Speaker 2: to her, so it's interesting. It's interesting. Hospital records indicated
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  Speaker 2: that Melbourne Christine Marcatti's alias rose Charemi, was brought to
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  Speaker 2: the State Hospital on November twenty first and officially admitted
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  Speaker 2: at six am in the morning. She was originally from Houston, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: where her mother still lived, and was approximately thirty four.
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  Speaker 2: She was forty. She had used many alias throughout her
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  Speaker 2: lifetime and lived many years in Louisiana and Texas. According
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  Speaker 2: to the clinical notes, the deputy accompany, Sheremy said the
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  Speaker 2: patient had been quote picked up on the side of
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  Speaker 2: the road and had been given something by the corner.
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  Speaker 2: The corner in Unis was contacted by doctors at the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and he told them share Mey had been coherent
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  Speaker 2: when he spoke with her at ten thirty pm the
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  Speaker 2: night before, but he did administer a sedative. He further
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  Speaker 2: indicated that share me was a nine year mainlining heroin
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  Speaker 2: addict whose last injection had been around two pm November twentieth.
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  Speaker 2: The doctors noted that Jeremy's condition upon initial examination indicated
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  Speaker 2: heroin withdraws and clinical shock. Relevant to Sheremy's credibility was
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  Speaker 2: an assessment of her mental state. From November twenty second
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  Speaker 2: to the twenty fourth, Sharem required close attention and medication.
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  Speaker 2: On November twenty fifth, she was transferred to the ward
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing open beds. On November twenty seventh, she was
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  Speaker 2: released to Louisiana State Police Lieutenant Prouge. The hospital records
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  Speaker 2: gave no reference as to alleged statements made by share
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Me or why she was released to Fruge on November
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh, sixty three. These records do indicate Shearmy had
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: been hospitalized for alcoholism and narcotics edition on addiction on
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: other occasions, including commitment to the same hospital back in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: March of sixty one by the Criminal Court of New Orleans.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: During this day, the woman was diagnosed as without psychosis. However,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: because of her previous record of drug addiction, she may
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: have had a mild integerative and pleasure defect. How do
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you have a pleasure defect? Her record would show she
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: has intervals of very good behavior, but at other times
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: she presents episodically psychopathic behavior, indicative of her history of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: drug and alcohol abused prostitution, and arrest on numerous, if
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: not minor charges. The committee interviewed one of the doctors
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: on staff at Eastern Louisiana State Hospital who had seen
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: share Me during her stay there. The doctor corroborated aspects
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: of the share Me allegations. Doctor Victor Weiss verified that
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: he was employed as a resident physician at the hospital
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty three, and he recalled it. On Monday,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: November twenty fifth, he was asked by another doctor, a
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: doctor Bowos, to see a patient who had been committed
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: on November twenty first. Bowers allegedly told Weiss that the
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: patient Rose share Me, had stated before the assassination that
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Kennedy was going to be killed. So White's questions share
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Me about her statements, She told him she'd worked for
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Jack Ruby, she did not have any specific details of
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a particular assassination plot against Kennedy, but had stated the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: word in the underworld was that Kennedy would be killed.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: She further stated that she had been traveling from Florida
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to her home in Texas, where when the man traveling
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: with her threw her from an automobile on which they
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: were riding. So Francis Prouge was a police officer who
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: first came to share Me's assistance on November twentieth, had
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: her committed to the state hospital and later released her
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: into his custody following the assassination to investigate her allegations.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: As such, he provided an account further detailing her allegations
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and the official response to her allegations. Fruge was deposed
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: by the committee on April eighteenth, nineteen and seventy eight.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And we'll get into what Fruge says during his HSCA
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: interview a little later, but when it comes to this story,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: all right, So after he picks up sharing Me and
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: they're riding back or they're riding I guess back to
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: wherever the hell they're coming from. Uh unice, UH share
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: me reaching questions, Frouge told the committee she related to
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: me that she was coming from Florida to Dallas with women,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: women who were Italians or resembled Italians. They had stopped
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: at this lounge and they'd had a few drinks and
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: had gotten into an argument or something. The manager of
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the lounge threw her out, and she got on the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: road and hitchhiked to catch a ride. And this is
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: when she got hit by a vehicle. Fruge said the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: lounge was a house of prostitution called the Silva Slipper.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Fruge asked share Me what sh wait a minute, didn't
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Ruby have a club called the Silver Siliper or the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Silver Spur? Interesting? Frugi asked sharing Me what she was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: going to do in Dallas. She says she was going
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to number one, pick up some money, pick up a baby,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and kill Kennedy. Fruch claimed during these interviews that Sharemi
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: related the story. She appeared to be quite lucid, and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: frue had share Me admitted to the hospital late on
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: November twentieth. Okay, so this is this is during the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: one or two hour ride to Jackson Statemental Hospital. That's
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: what she told him. So she's a little foggy. He's
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: still a little fucked up. Says she was with women.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: They resembled Italians, which means likely dark skin, dark hair,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: but women. That's throwing me off. Maybe she was just
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: because it says later, under questioning, share Mei told Fruz
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that the two men traveling with her from Miami were
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: going to Dallas to kill the president. For her part,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: share Me was to obtain eight grand from an unidentified
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: source in Dallas and proceed to Houston with the two
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: men to complete a drug deal. Share Me was also
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: supposed to pick up her little boy from friends who
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: had been looking after him. Share Me further provided detailed
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: accounts of the arrangement for the drug transaction in Houston.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: She said reservations have been made at the Rice Hotel
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: in Houston. The trio was to meet a seaman seamen
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: who was bringing in eight kilos of heroin the Galveston, Oh, Galveston, Yeah, buddy,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and your Dene's in Galveston. Share Me had the name
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: of the sea and the boat he was arriving on,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and once the deal was completed, the trio would proceed
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to Mexico. Fruj told the committee that he repeated Sharemy's
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: story to his supervisors and asked for instructions. Fruch promptly
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: took Shremy into custody as indicated in hospital records, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: set out to check her story out. He contacted the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: chief customs agent in Galveston, who reportedly verified the scheduled
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: docking of the boat and the name of the seamen.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Frus believed the customs agent was also able to verify
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the name of the man in Dallas who was holding
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Sharemy's son. Frus recalled to the customs agent had tailed
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the seamen as he disembarked from the boat, but then
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: lost a man's trail. Customs closed the case. Fruj would
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: also hoped to corroborate other statements by Sharem. During a
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: flight from Houston, Sharem noticed a newspaper with headlines indicating
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: investigators had not been able to establish a relationship between
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Ruby and Oswalt. Sharemi laughed at the headline. Shermy told
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: him that she had worked for Ruby, or Pinky, as
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: she had known him. That's a horrible nickname. If you're
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: a dude, I'm sorry, you definitely don't want to be
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: known as Pinky. She knew him at his nightclub in
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Dallas and claimed Ruby and Oswald had been quote shacking
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: up for years. Fruge said he called Captain Will Fritz
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: of the Dallas Police Department with this information, and Fritz
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: answered that he I ain't interested. Fritz and the Louisiana
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: State Police dropped the investigation into the matter. Four years later, however,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: investigators from the DA's office contacted Fruge and Frus went
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: into detail to Garrison's office to assist in the investigation
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: into the Kennedy assassination. During the course of the New
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Orleans DAE investigation, Fruge was able to pursue leads in
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the share me case that he had not checked out
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: in the original investigation.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: UH.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Frug attempted to corroborate the version she had given him.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Frus spoke with the owner of the Silver Slippered Lounge.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: The bar owner was a guide by the name of
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: mister Macmanuel, since deceased. Told Phrouge, now what that means
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: is Frus talked to Manuel, but Manuel had died some
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: time before the HISCA started up. So the bar owner,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Macmanuel told Fhruge that Seremy had come in with two
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: men who the owner knew as pimps engaged in the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: business of hauling whores in from Florida. When Jeremy became intoxicated.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: In reality, one of the men slapped her and threw
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: her outside. Frug claims that he showed the owner of
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the bar a stack of photographs and mugshots to identify.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Here's where things get interesting, folks, pay attention, Pay attention. UH.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: According to fruge. The bar owner chose the photos of
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: two Cuban exiles, one named Sergio or Coscia Smith and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: another Cuban fruge believed to be named Osanto. Now Osanto
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: has somehow been portrayed as being Santana, maybe Emilio Santana,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: at least that's who Jim Garrison thought it was. So
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: we have Sergio Okasia Smith and Amlio Santana and Emilio
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Santana is the picture that Macmanuel picked out, but he
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: called him osantouh so interesting um. At the time, he
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: befriended anti Castro activists and commercial pilot David Ferry, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: he was the head of the New Orleans chapter of
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the Cuban Revolutionary Front aka the CRC. Fairry and Smith
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: were also believed to have head ties with New Orleans
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: mob boss Callous Marcello ar Conscious. Smith moved from the
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: New Orleans area in nineteen sixty two to go to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Miami and later to Houston. The weekend following the assassination,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Ferry took a trip to Houston and Galveston for a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: little rest and relaxation while police searched New Orleans for him.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: After receiving a tip that he had involved in the assassination.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: The Committee has found credible evidence indicating Fairry and Oswald
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: were seen together in sixty three in the town of Clinton, Louisiana,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: some thirteen miles from the hospital in Jackson where Sharemy
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: was treated and where Oswald reportedly sought employment. Allegations regarding
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Smith and Ferry are set forth in detail elsewhere in
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the report. Clearly evidence of a link between Jeremy or
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Cassias Smith would be highly significant. Smith, however, has denied
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: any knowledge of Jeremy and their allegations, as one would.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Other Avenues of corroboration of Fruge's identification of Jeremy's traveling
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: companion as Sergio Kassias Smith, and further substantiation of Shearmany's
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: allegations remained elusive. Now, what I find interesting about Sergio
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Akashia Smith is of course his lists of associates. Okay,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And when we were talking Guy Banister, we're talking all
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of the folks in New Orleans. It's part of the CRC.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: We're talking Carlos Ki Roga, the Rodriguaez is our'n Nesto Rodriguez.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Folks we know that have legitimate CIA ties. Now what's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: interesting about the CRC is that this is a group
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that was specifically put together by the CIA, funded by
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the CIA, controlled by the CIA. That's interesting. And what's
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: also interesting is, of course, when you start getting into
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the fact that you know, they had an office at
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: five point forty four Camp Street. Uh. What's also interesting
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: is that at some point, and I believe it was
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two, in the midst of some turmoil within,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: we have Sergey or Acasiaus Smith stepping down as the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: leader of the CRC in New Orleans and becoming really
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a loose I mean, under his under his guidance, they
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: were doing well. They were they were collecting money, they
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: were doing their thing. And then after he stepped away,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: and they kind of loosely disbanded, if you will. I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: don't think they ever really disbanded, but they just kind
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: of morphed into something else, a little less organized, if
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: you want to give it that now we'll see here.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: So you have, like I said, you have Fruge having
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: customs tracked down her story and it panning out with
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: boats the names of people, which is interesting. The FBI
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: had never been notified by the Louisiana State Police and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: US Customs of their interests in share me. The FBI
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: file did not have any reference to the share Me
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: allegations of November sixty three. FBI files did give reference
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to an investigation of a tip from Melbourne Marcatti's actually
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Rose share Me in ard More, Oklahoma, that she was
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: en route to Dallas to deliver twenty six hundred dollars
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: worth of heroin to a man in Oak Cliff. She
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: was then to proceed to Galveston to pick up a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: load of narcotics from a semen on board a ship
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: destined for Galveston. In the next few days. She gave
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: detailed descriptions as to individuals, names, places, and amounts distributed.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Investigations were conducted by narcotics bureaus in Oklahoma and Texas,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and her information was found to be erroneous in all aspects.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: When the FBI looked into her, they found her to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: be totally full of shit. Allegedly, a similar tale was
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: told in nineteen sixty five when FBI agents investigated a
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: tip from my favorite alias Rosella clink Scales. Like the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: story is told in sixty three, clink Scales claimed individuals
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: associated with the syndicate The Mafia were running prostitution rings
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: in several Southern cities such as Houston and Galveston, Oklahoma City, Montgomery, Alabama,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: by transporting hookers, including clink Scales, from town to town
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: aka human trafficking. Furthermore, she claimed she had information about
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a heroin deal operating from a New Orleans ship. A
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: call to the Coastguard verified, and ongoing narcotics investigation of
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: the ship. Other allegations made by clink Scales could not
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: be verified. Further investigation into clink Scales revealed she had
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: apparently previously furnished the FBI false information concerning her involvement
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: in prostitution, and that she had been confined to a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: mental institution in Norman, Oklahoma, filed that away for later Norman, Oklahoma, Okay.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: FBI agents decided to pursue the case no further, The
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: FBI indicated agents did not know of the deaths of
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: their informant on September four, sixty five, occurring just one
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: month before or after she had contacted the FBI with
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: her information she was dead. Louisiana State Police investigating Jeremy's
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: fatal accident also apparently did not know of the FBI's
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: interest in her submitted by Patrician Patricia or researcher. So
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: that is what the hsca official investigation into the rose
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Chearmi allegations, says. It's very interesting, very interesting. So let's
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: say be touched on the emmanual identification. Sorry, I'm doing
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of jumping around here, but it's okay. There
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: was a brief mention given to share Me and James
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Hepburn's book Farewell America, and that was an almost throwaway
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: line which Hepburn says that quote Ruby dispatched her meaning
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: share Me on eleven, eighteen sixty three to Miami as
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: a drug courier. Now, James Hepburn, who wrote the book
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Farewell America, was a pseudonym, and the true identity of
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the writer is a mystery. The publishing company of the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: book Farewell America by James Hepburn is called Frontiers Publishing,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: and that didn't exist either, not a real publishing company.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: The book was not released in the United States either,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: and the combination of all these factors gave the author
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: a license to say whatever he liked without the fear
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: of retribution, either through the courts or otherwise. Could it
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: be true this woman worked for Ruby? Maybe but likely
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: who the fuck knows? You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, couldn't tell you, couldn't tell you. Sorry,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I was reading some comments. It's hard to stay up,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: stay up on comments and get through all this stuff.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Let's see here, and I'm kind of stitching the shit
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: together because I got no Joe. But uh so, yeah,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: like I mentioned, she did not seem badly injured and
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: uh but first I thought he would take her to
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: the Mussa Hospital in Units to be examined. All right,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: So we got all that, we got to arrest, we
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: got the talents. The final part of the plan involved
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: escaping New Mexico. So the Race Hotel in Houston, all
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: that checks out. Talked about Pinky, talk about Fritz saying
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I'm good funk off. Ah okay, So fast forward to
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: the Garrison investigation. February twenty third, sixty seven, Detective Frank
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Malosh sent a memorandum to Jim Garrison, then the District
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: attorney in New Orleans, and Garrison had reopened an investigation
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: into the murder of JFK. The memorandum was a statement
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: of one mister ah Magruda, who explained that during the
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Christmas holidays of sixty three he had been on a
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: hunting trip with doctor Victor Weiss remember him, the two
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: men had fallen into conversation at Magruder's home when Weiss
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: began to relate some curious events that had occurred at
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: East Louisiana State Hospital around the time of the assassination.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Vice allegedly explained that he was one of the doctors
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: who had treated a woman who was brought in as
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: a narcotics addict and who had supposedly been thrown excuse
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: me from an automobile, according to Magruda. Weiss then repeated
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: the story the woman had told him, which very little
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: from what from that which share Me had told Fruge
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: when first interviewed. She included details of her employment by
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Ruby as a dope runner and applied to kill the president.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: This became one of many leads Garrison was to follow.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: He asked Frank Malos to investigate further. The detective soon
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: found that the woman Magruder had referred to was Rose
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: share Me, and before long he had the name of
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: the state trooper who had taken her into the hospital.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Now that Garrison had Fruge and all the information that
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: nobody wanted for four years previously, he needed to find
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: share Me. Fruge was detailed to work for Garrison. He
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: met Malos in Houston on March sixth, sixty seven and
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: began to search for miss Sharem. They were soon to
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: be disappointed, and Dallas Malos found a Missus Morris Wall
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: in relation to breck All, who told him that their sister,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Melba Christine Marcatti's, was dead. The events surrounding the death
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: of Marcatti share Me are almost intriguing as the statements
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that she had made two years earlier. In this early
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: morning of September fourth, in nineteen sixty five, she was
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: involved in an accident on Highway one fifty five near
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the town of Big Sandy, Big Sandy, Sandy Cheeks, Texas,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and died later that day from the head injuries. Received
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: What actually happened deserves closer scrutiny. At approximately two point
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: thirty in the morning, Jerry Don Jerry Don Moore was
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: driving out of Big Sandy towards his home in Tyler.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: As Moore drew level with the roadside parking area he
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: noticed three or four suitcases laid along the yellow line
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: right in the middle of the goddamn road. Naturally, he
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: swerved to his right to avoid him. Suddenly, looking up,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: he saw the prone figure of a woman lying in
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: a ninety degree angle to the highway, with her head
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: right on the road. I breaked as hard as I could.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly whether I hit her or not.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I think he would know. There was a sound, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: it could have been a brick shoe hitting on that
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: old car. Neither the car norse driver were in good shape.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: More admitted that he was speeding pretty heavy and had
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: been drinking excessively, while he described his vehicle as having
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: only one headlight and slick, treadless tires. Moore managed to
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: stop only after he had passed the woman. He then
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: returned to where she laid off for help. Rose shearmy
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: was still alive, he said, although unconscious. As Moore sought
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the assistance of a group of black men and women
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: who were driving north on the highway, he noticed a
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: red Chevy, which he thought to be either a sixty
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: three or sixty four model, parked in the lay by
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: opposite where the woman lay. He had no recollection of
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: seeing it or the suitcases when he passed this area
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes earlier. There then followed a bizarre series
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: of events as more attempted to obtain first aid for
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: the injured woman. Firstly, he asked the occupants of the
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: car that he had to move the cases to prevent
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: further accidents. Then he put the unconscious share me into
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: his car and raced off to Big Sandy, where he
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: asked for the nearest doctor. He was told that there
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: was a doctor in Hawkins, a nearby town, and once
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: again set off at breakneck speed. Once in Hawkins, Moore
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: found a cop who escorted him to a doctor's house,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: where shear Me was laid out in the yard. She
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: was still breathing at that point, but had pretty good
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: brain damage. Do you reckon when your head gets ran over? Yeah?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I would assume you have some significant brain damage, folks.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: The doctor gave her a few shots since she'd be
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: all right. No, The doctor gave her a few shots
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: before the Ambu Lambs arrived to take the patient to
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Glade Water Hospital. What happened at the hospital remains a
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: subject of some conjecture. In three places on Melbourne Marcatti's
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: death certificate are the letters D which stand for dead
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: on arrival. Okay, but you know, without any controversy and fuckery,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: this wouldn't be the JFK investigation, folks. There's always got
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: to be some kind a fuckery. So here we have
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: her death certificate. In three places on it it says DOA.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I mean she was dead on arrival. And yet on
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the very same document we are told that there was
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: a period of nine hours between the onset of injury
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: and death. The certificate states the time of death as
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: eleven a m. Nine hours after she was admitted to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: the hospital. Did the doctors work for all this time
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: on a corpse? Who knows? The other odd thing about
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: this is what they call the death if you will.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: The cause of death was listed as traumatic head wound
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: with subdural and subarachnoid and pateechial hemorrhage to the brain
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: caused by being struck by auto. What that means is
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: she got her head ran over by a car and
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: it kind of squished her skull into her brain and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: not good, no bueno. There wasn't autops he performed, but
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: unfortunately the hospital is now unable to locate these records,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: because why why not, Let's keep it mysterious, folks. There
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: are three further points which he mentioned about Rose's death. Firstly,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: More the guy who ran her head over noticed definite
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: tread patterns on the head of the injured woman, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the type of but the tires of his vehicle, well,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: he said, didn't have no tread on him, So maybe
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: he wasn't the one that actually ran her head over.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe she was already on the highway. There was very
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: little blood to be found on the road where she lay,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: and none at all in Moore's car or on More's car. Secondly,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the case was investigated at the time by Officer Ja
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Andrews of the Texas Highway Patrol. Andrews tried to establish
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: a connection between the driver and the victim, but was
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: unable to do so. Relatives of Shearmy did not want
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: to wish to pursue a case of the accident, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: so the case was closed. Finally, she noted that shermy's
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: hospital record state and in addition to her other injuries,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: she had suffered a quote deep punk shaped stellate wound
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: above her right forehead. Now here's where it gets interesting.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: This type of injury, according to medical textbook, often occurs
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: as a result of a contact gunshot wound. That means
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: when a gun is fired touching the flesh, the resultant
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: gases trapped between a layer of the skin and the
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: underlying bone caused a bursting tearing effect on the surrounding tissue,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: leaving a star shaped or aka punk tate stell eight,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: meaning the star shaped puncture wound. Frus interviewed Andrews and
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: reported back to Garrison that although the police report on
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the incident would lead one to believe that Jeremy was
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: involved in an unfortunate accident whilst trying to hitchhike, it's
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: his opinion that this was likely not to stare scenario.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: He found, as well as the aforementioned irregularities, that Highway
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: one fifty five was a farm to market road running
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: parallel to US Highways two, seventy one and eighty. These
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: would have offered a much better chance of a ride.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: In his report to Garrison, Frouge also stated that back
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: in November sixty three, when Jeremy had in police custody,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: she had volunteered that quote. She had once worked for
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Jack Ruby as a Stripper, which was verified as share
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Me herself, was no longer available for interrogation. Fruge pursued
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: other avenues of inquiry that had not been followed up
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: in sixty three, but as the Garrison investigation gathered momentum
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: and attracted the unwelcome attention of the media, Fruge's work
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: was almost forgotten, you know, which now brings us to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: the hsca time. Right, So before we get into that,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: let's take a little breaking break from the action and
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: check out some of the comments and bullshit a little bit.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Because if that's true that Rose share Me had a
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: punk tate stelly wound to her head, Okay, what a
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: better way to cover it up then leave her body
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: lining in the middle of the road to be ran over,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: and then people would think that that's possibly the cause
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: of death. I don't know, it's definitely weird, definitely suspect.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: But does that have anything to do with the Kennedy assassination? Again,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: this was in the middle of nowhere, big Sandy. We're
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: talking two years after the assassination, before the Garrison investigation.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Would people have really known about her story at the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: time other than Fruge? Likely it came from the kind
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: of life that she had been leading, you know, dealing
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: with these underworldly types scumbags, traffickers, drug dealers, prostitutes, wars
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and pimps, dregs of society, and probably hadn't nothing at
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: all to do with the Kennedy assassination. But it is
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: interesting in the list. So let me let me slide
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: back over here to the comments section here a little
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: bit too, uh yeah, conscious after running over her head. Yeah,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I mean I think he was saying that just to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: make himself feel better. I mean, look that that is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: a pure horror situation. If you're driving down the road,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you know, a little bit, a little bit tipsy, in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night, two in the morning, and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you see suitcases in the middle
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of the road and you swerve to miss them. And
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: then right before as soon as you swerve to miss him,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: you see a body and then you run over the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: body and you're like, oh shit. You know, your brain
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't really want to process the fact that you just
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: ran over a person, you know, and then you get
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: over there and oh, I mean I can't even imagine,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: but good lord, good lord, I don't know. Yeah, I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: find it. I find it hard to believe. It sounds
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: to me like especially with the gunshot wound to the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: head and that somebody put a gun straight to her
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: head and blasted her and she definitely wouldn't have been
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: definitely wouldn't have been alive after that. Now, funny you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: bring that up, Anthony. That's not such a far fetched theory.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: There is a theory out there that supports that there, Okay,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: and I believe you know, there was there was talk
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: that she was she would have been a perfect candidate
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: for MK ultra therapy, if you will. I believe one
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Jolly and west in working in in in Norman, Oklahoma
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: in the fifties. That's a good question. Hhm mm hmm.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Possibly possibly shit hold on, I'm thinking she was d
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: r T. I don't know what DRT means. I thought
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I was do not resuscitate, but U I don't know
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: where was Roscoe with that time, Yeah he was. I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: don't know if she was on Roscoe's list, the kill
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: list or what I mean. He said, there's lots of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: mysterious deaths going on. Oh okay, Paul, Yeah, dead right there.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: D r T certainly sounds to me like she would
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: have been dead right there for sure, and she was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: probably DTF as well, DTF Big Sandy, which, by the way, sidebar,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: if you're not watching DTF Sat Louis on Max, you
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: got to. It is a great show. Holy shit, I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: am digging it. Uh yeah, sorry, Let's get into what
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: mister Francis Prouge says to the HSCA investigators in nineteen
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: seventy eight. Now we heard a lot of it summarized
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: excuse me, in the HSDA report from Patricia or but
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I like to hear it. Wait a minute, Oh shit,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: now here we learned for the first time. Uh, some
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: new facts about the case. Uh, mister Fruge was called
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: to the emergency ward of the Moosa Hospital, So he
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't that the one that actually see I had always
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: thought that Fruge had just happened to pawn her on
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: the side of the road and took her to the hospital.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But that's not the case. So on the Wednesday, November twentieth,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: at about ten pm, Phruge was called to the emergency
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: ward of the Musa Memorial Hospital in Eunice, Louisiana by
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: missus Louise Guillery. A patient named Roe Shearmy was in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: the ward because she had been struck by an auto
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: on Highway one ninety in front of the Silver Slipper Lounge. Okay,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: she had only minor abrasions. Minor abrasions when she was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: brought into the hospital by the man that hit her,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Frank Odom. Okay, so
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: we know who hit her after she left a Silver
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Slipper Frank Odam. Mister Odam was known to mister Fruge
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: and had been a longtime resident of the area. Missus
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Gillery called it or called Lieutenant Frouge because she thought
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: the patient was on some kind of drugs. She could
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: not be released due to her condition, so Fruge brought
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: her to the local jail and locked her up for
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: safe keeping until she sobered up. Charmy had been hitchhiking
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: when she was struck by mister Odom. A short while later,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Fruge was called to the local jail because Charmi had
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: stripped off all her clothes and was cutting up in
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: the cell. He called Lafayette Charity Hospital Ambulance and accompanied
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: the driver as he transported Jeremy to the East Louisiana
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: State Hospital. For an examination. He took this action on
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the advice of corner doctor Rodney de Ruin, who met
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: him into jail and sedated Jeremy for the trip. Now,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: the trip from Eunice to Jackson took about two hours,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: and during this time Jeremy was calm and asked the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: usual questions about why she was being held and where
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: are you taking me for this trip? She was in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: a strait jacket. It's crazy, she's been acting up. Mister
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Freu stated. This procedure was used on any person that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: showed signs of drug withdrawal to the extent that they
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: needed medical attention. The people would be treated until their
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: withdrawal symptoms stopped and were then released. Now, during the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: trip from Unit to Jackson, share me As stated, she
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: told Frus that she was just passing through town from
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Miami on her way to Dallas. In Houston, she stated, quote,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: we're going to kill President Kennedy when he comes to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Dallas in a few days. She talked about traveling with
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys. Now it's not women, nuns, guys,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: But Lieutenant Fruge did not take any of the conversations
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: seriously due to her condition. He admitted her to Jackson
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: at three am Thursday, November twenty first, nineteen sixty, and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: she was still calm, but she was put into a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: patient sack for her own protection. On Friday, November twenty second,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Fruge was at his home when he heard that the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: President had been shot in Dallas. He called the hospital
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: and found out that Sherman was kicking up again, to
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the extent that he didn't think a trip or talk
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: to her would be fruitful. He asked the doctors at
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: the hospital to call him when she calmed down, So
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: on Monday, November twenty fifth, he found out that she
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: was calm down and he went to Jackson to talk
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: to her. She stated that she was coming from Miami
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: with two men that were either Cubans or Italians, and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: that she was going to Dallas then to Houston. The
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: men were going to kill Kennedy and she was going
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to check into the Rice Hotel, where reservations were already
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: made for her pick up ten kilos of heroin, which
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: is a lot of fucking heroin from a seaman coming
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: into Galveston. She was to pick up the money for
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the dope from a man who was holding her baby
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: she would then take the dope to Mexico. Mister Fruge
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: could not remember the name of the seamen that she gave,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: or the ship's name, or the name that she used
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: as an alias at the hotel. He stated that the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: US Customs would have had this information if anyone checks
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: with him. Apparently, Fruge told Colonel Morgan of the State Police,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: and he told Colonel Burbank. Burbank was in charge of
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the State Police at the time. Burbank told them to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: check out the story. Morgan and Fuge. Fruge called Nathan Durham,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: a chief customs agent in Port Arthur, Texas, and gave
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: him the name of the seamen and the ships that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Cheremy said the dope was coming in on him. Durham
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: called back in thirty minutes and confirm that the ship
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: was coming into Galveston by that name and that the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: seaman's name was on the ship's roster. Morgan called Will
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Fritz of the Dallas Police Department and told him the story.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Fritz told Morgan it was in the hands of the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: federal ages now and gave Morgan a name to call.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Go fuck yourself. From Fritz, they made plans to meet
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: with Nathan Durham in Houston to work the heroin Rose.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Share Me, Frugs Morgan, and a state Police pilot took
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: the Louisiana State Police plane and flew to Houston on Tuesday.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: They worked with the customs people and attempted to get
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: the dope. The customs people checked the Rice Hotel and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: reservations were made. Just as share Me had said, the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: man that allegedly had the money and her baby was checked.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: It was checked and his name showed that he was
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: an Underworld suspected narcotics dealer. While flying to Texas, in
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: the plane, one of the men had a daily newspaper
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: and it had a headline or story titled that stated
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: that Oswald and Ruby were not connected. Jeremy saw the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: headline and laugh. She told the men in the plane
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: that Oswald and Ruby were bed partners and played hide
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the sausage often when she worked for Ruby as a stripper.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: She stated that she had worked for Ruby, but Frus
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: does not remember the name of the bar that she
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: had stripped at. It was not at the Carousel. It
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: had a name like something like the Pink Door or
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the Red Door. The Pink Door, I think I'd rather
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: go in the pink door than the red door, saying
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Frus thinks that this might have been checked later, but
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: they didn't do anything with it at the time. When
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Seremy was first picked up on the highway, she had
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: two cardboard boxes of clothes and belongings. Fruge looked in
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: one of the two boxes and found baby clothes and shoes.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: This led him to believe that she had at least
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: had a baby, but he didn't check the boxes any further.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: An agent named Bob Woody checked into the Rice hotel,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: was share me and acted as her sugar daddy. An
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: agent was assigned to follow the semen. The seamen got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: into a bus from Galveston to Houston, but he lost
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: the tail. No one contacted the room at the hotel,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and Sharmi missed her time schedule. The whole deal fell
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: through on the dope. The agent in charge of customs
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: in Houston called the agents and asked them if they
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: wanted to talk to Sjeremy. They didn't want to speak
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: with her, so Fruge Morgan in the pilot came back
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: to Baton Rouge and they cut Sharremy loose in Houston,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: and Phrouge forgot about the incident until Lieutenant Frus was
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: loaned to the Garrison Investigation by the State Police in
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six. Lieutenant Fruge stated that a doctor person
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: had somehow heard about the Sharemy case and had called Garrison,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: and Fruge didn't helped with some of the interviews in
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Jackson and Clinton. He got a set of photos from
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Garrison Investigation and went to the man and managed the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Silver Slipper Lounge mac Emmanuel. He identified Sergio Ocasia Smith
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: and Emilio Santana. The man who came in and talked
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to them was identified by Manual as John Paul Jeannette.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: This man Jeanette might have talked to Santana previously, because
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: he died of a heart attack in Unice, Louisiana, on
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: February eighteen seventy eight. He was born in Massachusetts nineteen
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. His social Security number was whatever. This man
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Jeanette might have also known Asanto or Santana. Mcmanuel stated
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: at Fruge that Santana used to bring girls to the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Silver Slipper from Miami. The girls would work for a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then go back. The name of
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: the man should be in some reports of Garrison's investigator.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Mcmanuel was shot to death unfortunately in nineteen seventy four
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: in Villa Plotte, Louisiana. Lived by the sword, Yeah, die
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: by the sword, you know what I'm saying. Mac mahon.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Fruge was asked in sixty six to attempt to find
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Rose share me and that's when they found out that
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: she had been killed in nineteen sixty five. Fruge stated
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: that he found it unusual that a person would be
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: hit by an automobile and only have a fracture of
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the skull without breaking any other bones in the body. Well,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: it's not rocket science. If you run over their head,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: they're likeily not gonna have any other broken bones, especially
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: if they're shot in the head first. Just saying, mister
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Fruge touched on a few other points that he remembered.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: There was a doctor Silva who was born in Havana, Cuba,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: and was working at the East Louisiana State Hospital in
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: sixty three. That is the only year that he worked there,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: and Fruze does not have any information, nor does he
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: imply that the doctor was involved in anything illegal. Now
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Fruge only mentioned him because he was from Cuba. Fruge
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: asked if this committee had found that diagrams of the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: sewer system in Dealey Plaza were found in our caucious
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Smith's apartment in Texas. He thinks that Captain Will Fritz
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: might have mentioned something about that, but mister Fruge was
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: not sure on this point. Now, to cycle back a
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: little bit, Garrison did run down Emelia Santana and question
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: him extensively. Uh And of course, by the time of
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: his investigation, Sergey Arcoscia Smith was now living in Houston,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: and of course Garrison wanted to subpoena him and bring
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: him back to Louisiana for his grand jury testimony. But
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: our conscious Smith says, screw you, big dog, I'm not coming.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: But now, due to pressure and allegations, our conscious Smith
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: does agree to do a line detective test in Texas,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: and basically they throw the entire thing out because nothing
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: is making sense as he's hooked up to this thing
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: like he's done fuck the whole test up, and they
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: think that he he was either on something at the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: time or he was just that good that he could
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: mask his reactions. His body's reactions to certain questions. They
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: basically deemed him not a good candidate for a lot
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: of detective tests. Whatever that means. This is interesting. So
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Fruz stated that he had a letter in his possession
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: from Margaret Martin's, the mother of Leyton Martin's, who you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: might know as one of David Fairies boy Toys to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: a Father Tops Toops see Father Tops. The letter stated
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: that Missus Martin's had heard about killing President Kennedy among
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: fairies Shawn Banister in sixty three, but she denied that
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: her son Layton was involved in all this talk. This
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: letter was written, to the best of his memory, after
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Garrison called her son before the grand jury in New Orleans.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Missus Martin. Missus Martin's was dating David Ferry, or at
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: least was friendly with him. Mister Freus remembers checking on
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Missus Martin's and learning that mister guy Banister had her
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: committed to Charity High Hospital and then Demand Deville, Louisiana.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: On August sixteenth, nineteen sixty three, Guy Banister had Leyton
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Martin's mother committed to a Looney Ben August sixteenth, sixty three,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: she was committed to Charity Hospital in New Orleans again
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: on November thirtieth, nineteen sixty six, by David Ferry and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Layton Martins. Together Pruge and Andrew Shambra talked with her doctor,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: whose name he doesn't remember. The doctor, a psychiatrist, stated
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: that missus Martin's was not insane. He didn't talk with
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: missus Martin's. These dates might or might not be significant,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: but he mentions that in August of sixty three that
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Oswald was in New Orleans handing out leafless and this
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: would be the time that she claims to have heard
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: the talk of killing the president. The nineteen sixty sixth
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: date would be about the time that talk was going
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: around New Orleans that the DA was going to call
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: people before the grand jury. Sadly, father Toopes is now deceased.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Another point of interest to mister Fuge Mister Frouge was
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: a statement by one Andy Dunn. Andy Dunn of Clinton, Louisiana,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Done was sitting across the street from the black vehicle
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: that was parked by the voter registration office. He remembered
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: seeing three men in the car, two in the front,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: one in the rear at the time that Oswald was
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: in line to register to vote. That would mean that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: there is one man that was in the car that
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: has not been identified to this day. Mister Dunn, who
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: was a local drunk, died in jail in Clinton a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: short time later. Not suspicious at all. Mister Fruge does
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: not have the report, but he remembers the story that
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: mister Dunn died by hanging himself while lying on his bunk.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: How the hell does that happen? How can you hang
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: yourself when you're laying in bed? I don't know. Maybe
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: he was on his belly, he had a belt around
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: his neck and around the head of the bunk, and
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: he was strangled while he was laying there. This has
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: not been verified to his knowledge. Interesting. Mister Henry Sibley
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: of Dinnin Springs or Hammond, Louisiana, was the chairman of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: the State Sovereignty Commission, and mister Fruge doesn't remember anything
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: about Guy Banisters files ever being brought there. It is
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: possible that files were there that he did not know about.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Fruges stated that he never worked with retired Major Russell
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Willie of the Louisiana State Police while he was with
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: the Commission. Remember that a lot of Guy Banister's files
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: were well ended up in the hands of Louis Louisiana
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: State Police, which is interesting. M stay here, there's anything
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: else crazy.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: We talked about that, We talked about that. HM talked
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: about that, m HM talks about Mac he talks about
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: talked about Martin's father, Tupes. Yep, that's it for that, so.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Verily, verily interesting. Hmm. Were not put that book. So
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: to address a couple of things here, huh, I don't know.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: She definitely should have stayed off of walking on roads,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: that's for damn sure. And apparently somebody was holding her
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: kid like hostage, like kidnapped and made her do this
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: drug deal or something. Who knows. I don't know. It's
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: all very very crazy. So we talked about her many
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: many aliases. We talked about the register at the Musa
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Hospital and as you can see right there, second from
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: the top, and you can see the date eleven, twenty
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: sixty three at four pm, Rose share Me from Thibodeau Thibodeaux,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: Louisiana has brought into the emergency room register. Okay, so
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: there's many things about this entire Rose share Me story
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: that we corroborate. Now could this be a whole nother
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Dean Andrews thing where he's you know, fucking sedated on
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: some good shit in the hospital and pulls things out
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: of thin air, you know what I'm saying. And he
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: might hear the doctors and nurses or television in the distance,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: you know, talking about the headlines of the day, because
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: of course that would be all anybody is talking about,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: because that's a major happening, the assassination of a president,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: the killing of a president. So the names Lee, Harvey Oswald,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: President Kennedy, Jack Ruby, these will be names that are
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: mentioned on the radio. There would be names that she
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: could have read in newspapers. But again, she supposedly said
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna kill Kennedy before the assassination. Now, Fruze
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: didn't go back and talk to her and find all
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: this out until the twenty fifth or the twenty seventh,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: so she could have definitely known Ruby's name by then.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: She might have even heard who he was from the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: circles that she traveled in and concocted this kind of story, right,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, the story kind of matches,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: you know, if you look at like the Marita Therenz
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: story and the trip in the car from Florida to
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Dallas to kill Kennedy. I don't know. And you know,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: there's some things about her story that check out, like
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: the heroine, and I think somehow this even ties into
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: the Nancy Perrin rich story, her ex husband Robert Parrin.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: She was another weird death and weird allegations there to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: look into. If you really want to go down that
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole, go head ahead. But we're not going to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: go down that rabbit hole tonight. So yeah, I mean,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: could this be you know, and we made the allegations
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: earlier where we didn't make them, but they're alluded to,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: right mk Ultra Jolian West and Oklahoma. She does have
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: something on her rap sheet. She was arrested in Norman,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma on June first, nineteen sixty three. Oddly enough, Lee
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Harvey Oswall had a Norman, Oklahoma address written down in
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: his address book with no name attached to it. According
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: to researcher Hank Albarelli, who alleges that Rose was a
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: patient in the Norman, Oklahoma facility and treated by Julian West.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: The HSCA report says that the FBI claimed that Rose
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: had been confined to a mental institution in Norman on
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: three separate occasions. At one point as well, before her
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: appearance in Oklahoma, she had been confined to Saint Elizabeth's
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Hospital in Washington, d C. And there are questions how
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: did Rose get admitted to a massive, federally funded, government
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: operated Washington DC mental hospital following an arrest in New Mexico. Well,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really make a lot of sense unless she
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: had been picked up by the FBI for a federal
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: crime right and they had to federally deal with her
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: instead of making it a local state issue. But again,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Saint Elizabeth Hospital definitely an MK ulture breeding ground. I'm sure,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: let's see again, there's nothing else in her, in her
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: activities that would have put her in DC. In January
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: of nineteen fifty eight, this was nicknamed the Assassin's Hospital
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: as it housed the attempted presidential assassins Richard Lawrence that
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: would be assassin of President Andrew Jackson at one time
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: John Hinckley Junior, famous for his assassination attempt on President
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan during his trial and awaiting execution. Saint Elizabeth Also,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: how does Charles Guittau who assassinated Garfield in eighteen eighty one.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it says here. Prior to her Saint Elizabeth
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: stint Rose was arrested in Albuquerque for violating the Dire Act.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: The next entry on her arrest records show that she
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: wound up in a St. Elizabeths hospital for possibly more
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: than two years, as her next arrest showed her in
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City on June third, nineteen sixty in Saint Elizabeth's hospital.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: The OSS was testing truth serums on unwinning patients during
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: World War Two. Again, according to HP Albarelli and his
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: book A Secret Order, Saint Elizabeth was the site of
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: CIA behavior modification projects using CIA physicians. The CIA projects
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: like mk Ultra poorly tested LSD on metal patients, prisoners,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: drug addicts, and prostitutes, of which a lot of these
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: traits Rose share me certainly had. So is it out
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: of the room of possibility? It's not out of the
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: realm of possibility. Let's see here I wanted to Oh yeah,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: I told you to file this away for later. Well,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: here's the interesting Here's a picture of Michael Marcatti's with
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: his mother in Houston in nineteen fifty five. So this
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: would have been before she was admitted to Saint Elizabeths Hospital.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: I mean looks like a normal enough woman. You can
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: see definitely either she's squinting or there's a lot of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: pain and sorrow in those eyes. Obviously her child is
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: not happy, little Michael. So to get back to the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: whole her birth name young Blood, right, it's interesting. She
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: was arrested in Shreveport, Louisiana, under the name Melba Christine
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Youngblood on an investigation charge for larceny dated back to
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: eight seven forty two. However, we see Rose as Melba
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Christine young Blood Rodman, this time on nine thirty forty two,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: when her charge stated, quote hold for Barksdale. In Barksdale,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: I think it's an Air Force base or army base.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: The infamous aiding soldiers to escape charge happened on ten
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: ten two to Melba Christine young Blood Rodman. By nineteen
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: forty seven, after her time spent in an goal of prison,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: she was arrested under the name Melba Christine young Blood
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: for disturbing the peace in a police station by using
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: obscene language telling the police to go fuck themselves. New
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: Orleans Police added to her charge these words. Subject believed
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: to be insane. She was arrested in Dallas in May
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: of nineteen sixty three under the name Melville Christine Marcatti's,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: which was a little It was six months prior to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Kennedy's murder in that city. Interesting. Interesting for being drunk
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: and disorderly. So let's get to the young Blood allegations here.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Interesting when we talk about someone who could have possibly
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: been her father. When she was born, her last name
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: was young Blood Melbe Christine young Blood. Right years later,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: the name young Blood would come up once again and
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: the investigation of another assassination named by James Earl Ray,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: the charge the convicted but never confessed assassin of Martin
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Luther King Junior, during a filmed interview for the HSCA
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: MLK Report during the nineteen seventies investigation. In his sworn testimony,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Ray said that an FBI agent came to visit him
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: while I'm prisoned in nineteen sixty nine to seek his
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: help in regards to taking some people out of circulation.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: He claimed that the agent showed him about ten or
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: fifteen pictures that the FBI wanted taken out of circulation
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: of Latin looking individuals and even some pictures taken from
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Daley Plaza in nineteen sixty three, immediately following the shooting.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: Interesting one picture was taken in Dallas in nineteen sixty three,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: said Ray and his sworn testimony to the HSCA. There
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: was no names given, and one picture was an individual
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: named Jack Youngblood. Young Blood would be known to most
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: MLK conspiracy theorists as the Eggs and Sausages Man. Now
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: that is a nickname. I can get behind the dick
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: and ball. I mean eggs and Sausages. Eggs and Sausage Man,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: a stranger who was seen frequenting the nearby diner within
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: days of and the day of the assassination. Young Blood
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: was allegedly arrested immediately after the MLK shooting, but was
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: never held. In Lamar Waldron's book Legacy of Secrecy, it
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: is stated that James Earl Ray was much like Rose
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: in the sense that they were both drug couriers operating
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: for the same Marcelo Heroin network. On Rose Shearmy's death certificate,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: the name of Thomas young Blood was listed as her
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: father's name and as the deceased informant. Was this Jack
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: young Blood any relation to Rose if her father's name
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: was young Blood? Could have been a brother rather than
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: a husband, or was he simply using a different first name,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: much like Rose Shermy would later in life. How does
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: the father name young Blood and a mother named Stroud
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: add up to a daughter named melbel Christine Marcatti's see.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: While some contend it Rose laid with dogs and got fleas,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: as Garrison would like to coin a phrase, you lay
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: with dogs, you get fleas, again, the possibility of Rose
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: appearing as more of a government agent or in some
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: way connected to the characters and both the criminal and
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: underworld become more plausible. What she just used as a
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: prostitute drug mule? Who again, this is a picture of
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Jackie young Blood or the egg and sausages man? Does
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: he look anything like Melboa? Maybe your brother? Don't know.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of a stretched I mean,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: we're we're deep diving into the you' see webo denial here.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: And again Rose share me from her mugshot in New Orleans,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: and her son says that by the time this picture
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: was taken, he could see that there's no life left
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: in his mother's eyes, that she's dead inside, her soul
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: has been taken from her. At this point, she's just
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: basically done with life. But again, if you want a
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: quick little read, you know, pick up this book. It's
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: it's a nice little read. Todd Elliott or there is
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: why many other names shouldn't be too expensive. And it's
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: eighty pages long for Christ's sake. Uh so, yeah, I mean,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: who knows? All right, let's see here what we're doing here?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Where are we at here? Well, Barksdale is a SAC base.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: My brother was stationed there, sac elaborate Claude Special Aircraft base.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know her son, don't look. I get hey, Matt,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: what's up, buddy, Matt doubted in the house. Fine, Matt
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: her Son does not like that image of her. I
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: will find the other one and show that one where
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: she's much younger and hotter. I'm guessing this is pre
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: close to her, the beginning of her or pre uh
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: running days. If you know what I'm saying, Uh, don't
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: really like that picture? I will show you this. This
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: one looks like she's working as a telephone operator or something. Maybe.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: See she's quite a handsome lady in this one not
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: bad looking, not bad looking, and there was a This
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: is apparently the day he was christened Michael Marcatti's nineteen
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: fifty three. You know, it's a shame, it's a shame
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: what happened to Rose. How her life got so fucked
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: up and she got entangled and you know, drugs and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: the seeder side of life. And this is what happens, folks.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: It's a tale as old as time. One last image
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: I wanted to show you here is one that the
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: the author took while he was in visiting Eunice behind
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Musa Hospital. He just happened to be going to visit
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: the abandoned, defunct Mussa Hospital in Unie, Louisiana in twenty thirteen,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: and he managed to take a picture of a crossroads
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: right behind it with the hospital in the distance. Sit
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: see you back there, now, take a look at the crossroads,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Rose and Charmaine. You think that's where she got the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: name to write on the register? I mean that's pretty crazy, right,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Rose and Charmaine? Huh? Interesting? Interesting? Who knows? Who knows?
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. All right, let's see here
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: catch up with some comments. Strategic air Commands. Sorry, thank you,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: Paula big bombs bombs away baby. Interesting. I take umbrage
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: with that, Matt. I think here on this show that
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: big bad Bob just summed up her case the best.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: James Douglas ain't got shit on me. It's my Denzel
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Washington impression. I'm joking, Matt, joking. All right, folks. Well
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: that's it for Laurel's Sharey story. I don't know where
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: that leaves us in the big picture of things. Does
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: it add anything to the believability of the conspiracy of
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: the case. I guess a lot rests on whether or
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: not the story of a doctor and the story of
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: a state trooper can be relied upon. I mean, I
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: don't I'm not envisioning a scenario where Louisiana state trooper
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: is lying about all this stuff, or a doctor is
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: lying through his buddy while they're out hunting about some
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: things that happened over the weekend and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't know why they would
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  Speaker 2: lie about a story like this. But also, again, did
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  Speaker 2: share me while she's in the looney bin, while she's
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: half senated, did she hear some things like Dean Andrews?
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  Speaker 2: Did she envision a scenario, a waking dream if you will,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: about hearing people talk about these people. But again, that
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't explain. If she actually said before the assassination that
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: they were going to kill Kennedy in Dallas, then we
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  Speaker 2: have to put a whole lot more weight on what
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  Speaker 2: she said. So and I guess we'll just leave it there.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you. South Towest tried again. We had to. I'm
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: cobbling this together at the last minute without Joe. So
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: you know, you plan on something and then the very
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: last minute, fate says, fuck you do this, figure it
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: out on the fly in five minutes you go live, sir. Okay,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: but that's what I do. I'm a pro professional. And
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: here we are our forty five in. Your boy's done it.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Your boys pulled through, and uh yeah, we'll call it that.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: That's a pod. That's a pod. Thank you guys for
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: hanging out and participating in the show. Yeah you know
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: this claw, you know this man. You know this man.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: I did it for twelve years. It's just when you know,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: I've been doing it for two years with Joe and
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: then you got to revert back to the old ways.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes me in a little bit to get
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: back in the swing of things. But I've had some
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: practice in the last two months, so fortunately things will
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: get better, hopefully. So down the comment section, just so
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Joe sees it, everybody tells Joe to invest in a
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: fucking microphone, like this big black thing in front of
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: my face right now. I have the inner monitors as well,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: but I don't have an inline microphone right The only
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: reason I use these is I don't want to look
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: like a fucking dork with this big headset on. You
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. These are more in cognido if
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know, but these are
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: the same thing headphones. They're headphones, they're monitors, they're audio
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: only that way I can hear, you know what Joe's saying.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: I can hear myself. I have a invested in a
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: good microphone that hopefully sounds really fucking good. I got
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: a mixer that my headphones are plugged into that my
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: sound goes through. So everybody in the comments section tell
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Joe invest in a microphone in a mixture so we
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: don't have these problems anymore. Because I've been telling him
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: for months and months and months and months and months.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't seem to get it. He keeps buying
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: more pairs of inline microphone headphones that suck. So hopefully
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: I'll listen to you because he damn sure ain't listening
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: to me. That being said, Thank you Anthony, Thank you sir,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Thank everybody for being here. DONO get your fat ass
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: in here, sir, for the record record, come to the case. Case.
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  Speaker 2: The greatest lies are told in the name of truth,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: the greatest crimes are committed in the name of justice.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: The quotation Jim it could be using for him or
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: against him. A strange case. Good night, good night, m
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: I need some nicotine. See y'all next Wednesday. Shauble be out,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: have a great evening, folks, have a great weekend. See
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: you next Wednesday. Peace. Peace,