Latest / The Inspired Stories Podcast / Building Great Businesses for Greater Purpose: David Beasley's Journey from Goodyear to C12 Leadership
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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast,
- 0:08where leaders share their experiences so we can learn from
- 0:11their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:14adversity. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:17today's guest is David Beasley, chair of C12 Business Forums.
- 0:21They are a Christian business networking and leadership
- 0:24development organization that has been around for nearly three
- 0:28decades. They provide leadership forms
- 0:30for business owners, focusing on membership, resources and
- 0:34training designed to support mission focused entrepreneurs.
- 0:38Through David's guidance, C12 continues to help CE OS and
- 0:42owners combine solid business practices with Christian values,
- 0:47creating workplaces that inspire growth and positive change.
- 0:51Before joining C12, David worked at the Goodyear Tire and Rubber
- 0:55Company, serving as Vice President of Commercial Tires
- 0:59for North America, where he led P&L initiatives and contributed
- 1:03to significant growth and operational excellence.
- 1:06His experience in managing large teams and navigating strategic
- 1:10business challenges has shaped his approach to leadership.
- 1:14He also helps entrepreneurs discover new ways to integrate
- 1:17faith in the daily operations, resulting in inspired leadership
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- 2:08All right, back to our guest today, Chair of C12 Business
- 2:12Forums in Northeast Ohio, David Beasley.
- 2:14Thanks for making the time to Share your story today.
- 2:17Thanks, Anthony. It's great to be here.
- 2:18Thanks for inviting me to be online to come on board.
- 2:21Yeah. So David, you spent nearly 40
- 2:25years at Goodyear. What initially drew you into
- 2:28that company? How did that opportunity unfold?
- 2:31Yeah, that's a really good question.
- 2:32You know, I graduated from College in December of 1983 and
- 2:39it was not a good economic time and I had a couple
- 2:43opportunities. One was Goodyear and just felt
- 2:47like it was a great brand name and they afforded me an
- 2:51opportunity to sell tires in a retail company owned retail
- 2:56store in Cincinnati, OH. And yeah, the rest is kind of
- 3:00history. 40 years later, I retired from Goodyear, but it
- 3:04was an opportunity to grow with a name brand Fortune 250 company
- 3:08that yeah, it was. So the opportunity came about
- 3:13and, you know, a relatively difficult economic period, big
- 3:17brand name. Hey, this sounds like a good way
- 3:19to start my career. But what kept you there so long?
- 3:22There has to be something about that company.
- 3:24That. Held you.
- 3:25Yeah, You know, I, I, my degree and you know, was in management
- 3:31undergraduate, but with an emphasis on entrepreneurship.
- 3:34My whole thought was I'll go to work for Goodyear, they'll teach
- 3:39me the retail tire business, then I'll go out and start my
- 3:44own Goodyear store, you know, as an independent dealer someplace.
- 3:49And that was really my approach to it.
- 3:51And then there was every like every two years or less, there
- 3:55was just the next opportunity that Goodyear went.
- 3:58So, you know, I just kind of went with each of those
- 4:01opportunities and felt like it was great for my family, for my
- 4:07wife and just continue to go. And as those opportunities
- 4:13progressed and additional responsibilities and challenges
- 4:16that went along with it, I just stood there.
- 4:19But I had no no idea that I was going to spend good a career
- 4:25with Goodyear. That was not my intent.
- 4:28As you look back over your 40 years there, David, what
- 4:31particular project or role stands out as your favorite?
- 4:38Well, probably 1 was my last role, six years as, as you said,
- 4:43Vice President of North American commercial.
- 4:45That was a role I wanted the last 10 years of my career and
- 4:50for various reasons, it came about when I didn't think it was
- 4:53going to come about. We can talk about that.
- 4:56And and then the role before that, when I came back from
- 4:59China, I got the opportunity to lead airships, you know, the be
- 5:04director of airship operations, the Goodyear blimps, right?
- 5:08And that was like a great opportunity because I was a part
- 5:14of the organization, was ambassadors for a company.
- 5:18And quite honestly, I never had a dissatisfied customer.
- 5:23Anybody that ever got the opportunity right on the
- 5:26Goodyear blimp? And they're not many get to do
- 5:29that. It was like they were like this
- 5:31is great. I can rock this off my bucket
- 5:33list. So the the fulfillment of
- 5:36satisfying people's dreams, that was equally as as fine.
- 5:41So in that role, your job was what exactly you're in charge of
- 5:45how many blimps were there And I is it's like just a marketing
- 5:49vehicle and that's kind of the role that you were in.
- 5:52Yeah, no, I was director of airship operations, so yeah.
- 5:56But there's three Goodyear blimps, one in Pomp at Pompano
- 6:00Beach, FL, 1 in Akron, OH, 1 in Carson, CA.
- 6:05So obviously strategically located and the old blimps were
- 6:11were getting, they were antiquated and parts were no
- 6:16longer available. So I was on board.
- 6:19I came aboard not because I'm an aviations expert.
- 6:22It was more by business background, high capital
- 6:26project, high investment 'cause we we built, we discontinued the
- 6:33old ships, built new airships with Zeppelin.
- 6:36It was a joint project to build them in the United States, do
- 6:41that ground support equipment, bring in new ground support
- 6:44equipment, update facilities. It was a pretty extensive
- 6:47project and and with that, I was worked with the pilots and the
- 6:53crew just to make sure they were they they were in that
- 6:56organization. My responsibility.
- 6:59Those people are really the face in the ambassador's for
- 7:02Goodyear. I was making sure the ship was
- 7:05was where it was supposed to be. If it was covering a golf
- 7:08tournament or a NASCAR race or doing a charity, a right event,
- 7:12rides, whatever it may be, that was my responsibility to not
- 7:17only get rid of the old ones and build new ones and christen
- 7:21them, but also to make sure the operations continued at the same
- 7:25time. So.
- 7:26So as an outsider, how I know the Goodyear blimp is sporting
- 7:30events, right? Seem up in the sky.
- 7:32They're given the aerial view. Is there another purpose to them
- 7:35or is is that the purpose like this?
- 7:37This is a marketing vehicle. Put the name out there like a
- 7:40giant floating billboard. It's a brand building.
- 7:44Yeah, it's they're just a brand build people.
- 7:46People equate the air Goodyear airship with, you know, with
- 7:51Goodyear. And even when through the years
- 7:53companies have had blimps, you know, I think maybe some, but I
- 7:58have people say, well, I saw your blimp over, you know,
- 8:02Philadelphia. Well, we weren't there.
- 8:05It was they saw somebody else's, you know, but they equated it
- 8:08was because of Goodyear. That's pretty that's pretty
- 8:11strong brand recognition, you know, I mean, and it's strictly,
- 8:15you know, Goodyear provides the airship, they provide the aerial
- 8:20coverage, they provide the the pictures like of a golf
- 8:24tournament, NASCAR, Rays, college football game, They'll
- 8:27provide the the the the cameras shot down to the production
- 8:31trailer for the network, whoever it may be.
- 8:37So, and we do all of that for the Goodyear does all that for
- 8:42all those in game advertisements, you know, they
- 8:45pan up and see their aerial coverage provided by Goodyear
- 8:49and then they'll give a little background to that a marketing
- 8:53message that's all done like on a barter network.
- 8:57We will provide this if you give us so many, it's, it's really
- 9:02high value. I mean there's, it's a big
- 9:04investment, but the return for that advertising is, is equally
- 9:10or better actually than what we in Goodyear invest in it.
- 9:14And there are only three blimps, Goodyear blimps.
- 9:18And so how far can they travel? You know, you've got one in
- 9:22Akron, OH. Can it go to New York City?
- 9:25Oh yeah, they can travel. Even the one in California will
- 9:28come come back to to Akron for maintenance and other things.
- 9:34It it has to because of Rocky Mountains, it'll go the southern
- 9:37loop down by Phoenix and come N but it can they can travel as
- 9:42long as yeah, there's a ground crew and and and and.
- 9:47What's the greatest distance it can go without having to land to
- 9:51refuel or whatever? Oh yeah, yeah, it's I, that's a
- 9:56good question. I, I would say probably 3 or 400
- 10:00miles. I, I forget actually, it's been
- 10:02a while, but they, they can go. And yeah, you, you, you refuel,
- 10:07but that's not a, a problem. And you got to make sure you
- 10:13have helium available because, you know, you have to either
- 10:19take helium out, increase the air or increase the helium,
- 10:23reduce the air. So you got to depend on what you
- 10:25do. And for the height you're
- 10:27flying, you got to have helium available.
- 10:29But as long as you do that, it couldn't, it couldn't fly across
- 10:35the Atlantic Ocean, you know, but as long as there's there's
- 10:39ground, you know, they they can fly a good distance, but it's
- 10:44not economical. That's the reason why Goodyear
- 10:46places and where they're at. So they, you know, one of
- 10:49Pompano can cover the southeastern part of the United
- 10:52States, one in Akron, Midwest Northeast, and then the one in
- 10:57the West covers the West Coast. And so they stopped to refuel.
- 11:01Are they topping off on helium? And what kind of fuel are they
- 11:05using to propel themselves? Yeah, it's just regular, regular
- 11:09fuel, you know. It's like jet fuel or like
- 11:14aviation. Yeah, it's, it's just normal
- 11:18motors and yeah, they they top them off.
- 11:22There's a each each airship blimp has has two mass trucks.
- 11:31So they're they'll they'll send one ahead to where it's the
- 11:36destination is. So when it lands, there will be
- 11:39a crew there. It doesn't need many where they
- 11:41can mast on the they they can tether on the mast and so we can
- 11:47settle in there and then I'll stay on that.
- 11:50And then the following morning the other one will head out.
- 11:53So they kind of hop skip to support one another in the OK.
- 11:58Last blimp question I swear, but it's the most important one.
- 12:02How do I get a ride on one? Buy buy one at a charity event.
- 12:09Goodyear does a lot of charity events and they'll be auctions,
- 12:12you know, you use you. That's the best way to get one.
- 12:17Goodyear will give rides to support organic, you know,
- 12:21wherever they are in in the country to support a charity
- 12:25auction event. They're usually at science
- 12:27silent auctions, silent events, and yeah, so.
- 12:32You don't have a string that you can pull for me.
- 12:34Is what you're saying? No, I've been asked that a lot.
- 12:37I've been. Asked that you got a long list
- 12:39there. I lost, I lost any cred I had
- 12:42and he went over. I retired.
- 12:45If I even called now, they would say Dave, who you know or met
- 12:49for you so. So what was the most challenging
- 12:52project that you undertook there?
- 12:55That that was the new airships. Yeah, that was it.
- 12:59Building them. I I would say even more so.
- 13:04It was the change from the, the ground support equipment.
- 13:11Our people and the pilots were used to flying and operating one
- 13:15style of airship, the old blimps, to the new one.
- 13:19And for them to change and to learn.
- 13:22Many had been been there 20 years and or more.
- 13:25They'd done something that was a tough transition for them.
- 13:29That whole change process right of of relearning and and what
- 13:35went well on the old one doesn't mean it's going to work well for
- 13:39a new the new airship. That was probably more so than
- 13:43than building them and retiring them.
- 13:46Although there were some challenges there, it was that
- 13:50change the change process. Where there's some of the the
- 13:53pilots and the the other crew that maybe didn't make the
- 13:57transition, they were like, I'm out like this.
- 13:59Yeah, I'm not doing this. Right.
- 14:01We had some that lead left or retired just Hey, Dave, at this
- 14:07point in my career, I don't want to totally get it, understand
- 14:12it. Yeah.
- 14:14You know, I just, you know, I'm not interested in investing the
- 14:18time and yeah. So I want to hear a little bit
- 14:22about the decision to enter the China tire factory market.
- 14:28What was the original vision there?
- 14:31What made this such an interesting idea for Goodyear?
- 14:34Yeah, You know, it was, I wasn't looking for that opportunity.
- 14:38You know, I, I, I really wasn't looking for any opportunities
- 14:44that came up with Goodyear. They just kind of came up, you
- 14:47know, just as I know, I always tell people, you know the work
- 14:53for me, Don't worry about the next job or do your current job
- 14:57really well. The next job will happen.
- 14:59You know, you don't have to worry.
- 15:00Don't plan for it, don't orchestrate it and.
- 15:04Meaning like some people are sort of like jockeying
- 15:06positioning for what's next and maybe losing sight of what they
- 15:12need to be doing right now. Exactly, exactly.
- 15:15You know, But so you know, Goodyear came to me at that
- 15:19time, Goodyear was not producing truck tires in China.
- 15:23We weren't involved in the truck tire market in China.
- 15:27Goodyear was relocating a factory in northeast China,
- 15:31further northeast, and it was a consumer tire factory.
- 15:35So you think of consumer tires, auto and light truck tires that
- 15:39we drive around on and our cars and all that.
- 15:43And there was a decision made is supported, you know, by
- 15:48executive management, the board to build at the same time a
- 15:52truck tire factory in at this same location and enter the
- 15:57truck tire market in China. And as that factory was being
- 16:02built, they, they came to me and said, Hey, you know, I was at
- 16:07that time, I was kind of known as a truck tire expert in
- 16:10Goodyear because I'd spent so much time in that industry
- 16:13market that he'd come and and run the Asia Pacific truck tire
- 16:18business, get us started in, in China.
- 16:21And I showed up and my goal was to connect the marketplace back
- 16:25to the factory. That was that was it.
- 16:28But there was no one there. We had one supply chain person
- 16:32that was we started importing some tires.
- 16:35Goodyear did at that time and just to see the market and so
- 16:42built a built a sales team, built a marketing team, supply
- 16:46chain team, finance team, built all those, those functional
- 16:50components to support the business organizationally.
- 16:55And and also just learning the market, learning the culture
- 17:01because the way that the market, the tire market was, is done in
- 17:05China is totally different in how it's done in in the United
- 17:08States. How so?
- 17:10Yeah. So how?
- 17:13How is it so different? Yeah, No, it in it's two step
- 17:19distribution. We have some of that in the
- 17:21United States, two step distribution in in China.
- 17:25So you have as a manufacturer sells sells tires to a
- 17:29distributor. A distributor then sells tires
- 17:32to a retailer, but also the distributor actually funds the
- 17:37retailer to get them started. Like the tires are on
- 17:42consignment almost. Consignment, they may even, you
- 17:46know, find them a location support that do all of that to
- 17:50get them in business to help them grow.
- 17:53And then they'll they'll have some type of relationship versus
- 17:58and then the retailer then has the relationship with the fleet
- 18:03in the United States. It's really one step
- 18:06distribution manufacturer to the retailer servicing dealer than
- 18:10to the fleet. And many times the manufacturer
- 18:13has a relationship with the fleet that they drive the the
- 18:17fleet to that retail location. So much more sophisticated in
- 18:21North America than what it was in China.
- 18:24And that was a learning for me. You know, that was things I had
- 18:28to. Learn.
- 18:29Yeah, didn't, didn't have that understanding of how the market
- 18:34was done. Had to learn it pretty quick and
- 18:37yeah. How well did it go?
- 18:39Were you guys able to penetrate the market?
- 18:41Yeah, we went, yeah, went well and and penetrate we were late
- 18:46to the market. Part of my challenge, Anthony,
- 18:49was Goodyear thought at the time the business case it was, it was
- 18:55going to grow really rapidly. And I, I had to go in and say
- 18:59after investigating some things, being late to the market, some
- 19:04other things that hey, we can grow, but we won't grow at the
- 19:08rate that was in the business case.
- 19:11And that was a little bit of a change and more than a little
- 19:13bit. That was a big challenge for
- 19:15Goodyear because they went in under one assumption and I
- 19:18delivered a message that was different.
- 19:21And that was a challenge, Anthony.
- 19:23I mean that, I mean, that was that was the hardest time in my
- 19:31career going through those three years in China, but feeling like
- 19:36I disappointed people and needed to needed to tell the message of
- 19:41what we reality was. But the difficulty of the
- 19:44aftermath, once that's communicated, yeah, that was a
- 19:50trying, trying time for me. What was the most difficult part
- 19:54in trying to hit the anticipated numbers?
- 19:57Was it that you just didn't understand that distribution
- 20:00network at 1st and so, oh, you thought, oh, we're going to go
- 20:04sell right to the retailers and you're like, Oh no, actually our
- 20:06plan needs to change radically and we need to develop a
- 20:09relationship with the distributors.
- 20:11Yeah, that was part of it. But the the other part of it was
- 20:19there's a lot of state owned enterprises, truck tires
- 20:24manufacturers in China that were state owned that were supported
- 20:28by them that they were going to do whatever.
- 20:31They weren't going to give up easily market share.
- 20:35That was a part of it. They were supported by the
- 20:39government, right, Communist country and all of that.
- 20:43That was a challenge and just the fact that we were late,
- 20:47right, other people had brands had reputations marketing.
- 20:53We, we developed a high quality North American type truck tire
- 20:58that wasn't as valued in the Chinese market.
- 21:02So they weren't looking at at quality.
- 21:06They ran tires to destruction, low acquisition cost versus we
- 21:11sold on total cost of ownership. So you can get that and you can
- 21:16stay with that quality image, but it takes time.
- 21:20It's not going to be as rapid. It's going to take time to get
- 21:22there. It was those type of things that
- 21:24said, hey, we can grow, we can get there, but it's just going
- 21:30to take time. I want to understand more about
- 21:33the difference between the tires themselves.
- 21:35You're saying that you guys focus more on total cost of
- 21:39ownership Chinese tires, you drive them to destruction.
- 21:44If are people not driving Goodyear tires to destruction,
- 21:47is there another alternative? Yeah, in the in the truck tire
- 21:51market in North America, right, You'll sell a new tire to a a
- 21:57fleet and depending on how the fleet cares for that tire, it
- 22:02will be retreaded multiple times depending on the type of
- 22:05operation. And I'm so rough numbers, if you
- 22:09sell a, a new tire for $400.00 and a retread sells for $200,
- 22:16will you, you can buy a new tire for 100.
- 22:19You can buy 1A lesser quality for maybe $300.00.
- 22:24But you can get multiple retreads at half that price of
- 22:27$400.00 too. So over the life of that, of
- 22:31that whole casing, that original casing of that tire, you
- 22:36actually total cost of ownership is less.
- 22:39The problem is in China, retreading wasn't there and they
- 22:43didn't value it. You know, they didn't value the
- 22:46fleets didn't value retreating except in some specialized
- 22:50markets. They just were focused on.
- 22:53I can get this tire at less price than yours.
- 22:56Was there any thought about Goodyear shifting its approach
- 22:59to what China was accustomed to? Yeah, certainly there was.
- 23:05But you know and and things that may be a change since I left
- 23:10that market back. Well now it's been 12 years ago,
- 23:14but 13 years ago. But Goodyear's a quality brand
- 23:21and whether we are in the globe, we wanted to keep that quality
- 23:25brand. Goodyear had been there in the
- 23:28market on consumer tires, one of the first to enter.
- 23:31We were focused on quality that was it premium products.
- 23:37So you don't want to downgrade your your brand in the consumer
- 23:42market that's being original equipment on, you know, on a
- 23:46high end vehicle in China. So there's a lot of things at
- 23:52play for Goodyear when they make that decision.
- 23:55And point is, protecting that brand name is really important
- 24:00and what's best ultimately for the customer.
- 24:03But you have an education problem there, don't you?
- 24:05When everybody is brought up, they've been raised to, you
- 24:09know, find the cheapest tire and just drive it till it splits.
- 24:13And you guys are like, hey, there's a better way that
- 24:16there's, there's there's a knowledge gap there that that
- 24:18education is painful like, And how did you approach that?
- 24:21Like, did you find a good mechanism to sort of like train
- 24:25people to understand that there was a better approach?
- 24:28Well, you had and you're right, it's the training which equates
- 24:32to time, right? It takes time.
- 24:35And yeah, you'd have to give, give our salespeople, you know,
- 24:40the Goodyear salespeople, the company owned salespeople, tools
- 24:45to help them show, you know, the life of a tire.
- 24:49What, what, how many miles you get out of that tire with the
- 24:52life of of training. Once you do retread it once all
- 24:56that some success stories testimonials of customers in
- 25:00China that have done that right that have are now buying
- 25:05Goodyear new tires reach and how they're getting back.
- 25:08So you got to communicate that and re educate them and give
- 25:12tools to your sales people that truly demonstrates that value
- 25:18over time right on that fleet and holding having fleets give
- 25:24their testimonials is a big is a big powerful tool.
- 25:28So. So what was behind the decision
- 25:31to retire and did it happen concurrently with the decision
- 25:37to join C12? Yeah, yeah.
- 25:39No, it's a good question. So when I came out of China,
- 25:43they've talked about it was a difficult time.
- 25:46And I really was like, God, why did you, why did you send me
- 25:50there? I thought you wanted me to go
- 25:52there was so hard and really, you know, was really led to
- 25:58that. You know, God sent me there
- 26:00because I did wasn't really following him.
- 26:03So when I had the opportunity to lead the North American truck
- 26:07tire business, I just really relished that and.
- 26:12That was when you came back from China.
- 26:14Yeah, that was the last six years.
- 26:16Yeah. I came back from China, did the
- 26:18airship operations job, and then led the North American truck
- 26:22tire business. And the last two years my wife
- 26:27and I were just feeling like God was calling us away from
- 26:31Goodyear. But to what?
- 26:33I wasn't just going to stop. I wanted to have something to go
- 26:36to and out of China. I just really had a lot of
- 26:41interest in in glorifying God through my work and how business
- 26:48can really be used as a tool to to help people not only
- 26:57spiritually, but emotionally and physically.
- 26:59Business done well can really make an impact in the
- 27:04communities where it has that business operates up.
- 27:07I knew that it believed it and just happened to have coffee
- 27:12with a couple guys and a person came up said, Hey, I just met
- 27:17the CEO of C12. He's they're looking for a you
- 27:20know, it's someone to operate in as a franchise in Northeast
- 27:26Ohio. Been praying about you guys know
- 27:28of anybody I didn't know that C12 you know, and to ask some
- 27:33questions enough to intrigue and, you know, the mission to
- 27:37grow great businesses for a greater purpose appealed to me
- 27:41and just align with my personal passion.
- 27:45And that's yeah, that's did my due diligence.
- 27:49They did the due diligence on me and came on board, so it's.
- 27:53So explain more about what C12 is, what it does, who the
- 27:56members are, how you help them. Yeah, yeah.
- 28:00We, we work with Christian business owners, business
- 28:04leaders, you know who, who run the PNL, you know, control the
- 28:09culture of the company, you know, control their calendar.
- 28:12They're the, they're the leaders of the organization and we do
- 28:17that to help them grow great businesses for greater purpose.
- 28:20Well, great businesses. We want every business to be
- 28:24financially strong, to be high quality in terms of product
- 28:28service, you know, supply chain, efficiency, cost leadership, all
- 28:35of those things, high employee engagement.
- 28:37We want great businesses for a greater purpose and that's to
- 28:41glorify God. How do you take your faith as a
- 28:44Christian business owner and lead a business well for God's,
- 28:49for God's glory and to in that process impact people's lives?
- 28:56And that's that's what C12 is. And we walk alongside in a peer
- 29:00group advisory format. So C12 Christian 12, typically
- 29:0412 Christian business owners and a peer Advisory Board.
- 29:08We meet once a month, all day. And we asked them not to not to
- 29:14focus on working in the business, but focus on the
- 29:17business for that one day. And yeah, it's, it's impactful.
- 29:22And So what actually takes place in one of these meetings?
- 29:24What? What are the discussions like?
- 29:26Yeah, the discussions are great right at the the real value is
- 29:30in accountability and collaboration around great
- 29:36resources and great input. So we spend the morning going
- 29:42through a curriculum for, for instance, last month was around
- 29:48strategic planning, using strategic planning for 2026.
- 29:53Every September, we help the business owner and these are
- 29:56typically they can be public, publicly held company.
- 29:59But a typical C12 business owners 20 million in annual
- 30:04revenue. We say it can go down to 2
- 30:06million and at least 10 employees.
- 30:09The key is she had of a leadership team.
- 30:11It doesn't work for a sole proprietor.
- 30:15And you know, we, we want them to do strategic planning to lead
- 30:20A-Team. We talked to previous month
- 30:22about cost leadership, not reactively managing costs if
- 30:27you're in crisis or heading to crisis, but how do you manage
- 30:31proactively your cost structure so that you can weather the
- 30:35difficult times that come come about in business?
- 30:39We talked about that. We give them tools.
- 30:41That's part of the morning session.
- 30:43We also talked about how how you can minister to your employees
- 30:46setting up care teams. You know that that really helps
- 30:51the employees and it's not care teams from the leadership team,
- 30:55It's people that work in the organization that know of of
- 30:59issues that people are in crisis.
- 31:01How do you help them care houses company care for an employee
- 31:06that needs needs help during crisis.
- 31:09And we we work with them and how to set up a care team, how to
- 31:13fund a care team. And we do those are just
- 31:16examples. So that's the morning and then
- 31:20the afternoon is 12 members every once a one month out of
- 31:26the year. Each member is a focus.
- 31:28They do a, a business overview of their business where they
- 31:32stand, look at their PNL and their balance sheet and they
- 31:36have two questions that they really need help with.
- 31:40And they use the peer advisories as a board of directors, board
- 31:44of advisors to provide input to them that they have, you know,
- 31:50in their business and their questions.
- 31:52And also the members, two members interview that business
- 31:58owner that for that month, their leadership team as well as their
- 32:02spouse, if their spouse wants it.
- 32:04And we provide them feedback on how's the culture of the
- 32:07organization, what's your leadership strengths?
- 32:10What's your leadership blind spots?
- 32:13You know what, what are some things that you really don't
- 32:16know about the organization, but but should know?
- 32:19It's not punitive. It's there to help the peers, to
- 32:22help that business owner. And then we're also concerned
- 32:25about the leaders, business owners, work life balance.
- 32:29And part of that is self assessments every month that we
- 32:33asked them to do it. And then we also asked the
- 32:35spouse, how are they doing at home?
- 32:38How are they loving? So we, we do that and that's
- 32:41part of the, the, that afternoon session.
- 32:44And then the final hour of the day is, is open for him.
- 32:49What one topic that you need help with that you, you got 11
- 32:54other peers at the table that can help give you.
- 32:57Maybe they've gone through it, they can provide you insights,
- 33:00or they know someone, or they can just provide your opinion.
- 33:05And then at the end of the day, we say talk is great, but it's
- 33:09cheap. Doing is better than talk.
- 33:13What are they, 1-2 or three things you're going to do
- 33:16between now and the next meeting to help change your trajectory
- 33:21personally or professionally? And that's that's the day in a
- 33:26nutshell. There's a lot of tools done in
- 33:28that. And yeah, I just have the
- 33:31privilege to walk alongside these guys and to help them and
- 33:35men and women and they want to get better and lead better, but
- 33:39organizations and and then I meet one-on-one coaching with
- 33:43them throughout the month as well.
- 33:45OK, what you're describing sounds like a fantastic kind of
- 33:50mastermind setup, right? I'm wondering how faith gets
- 33:56infused into this process. Is it more of like a subtle
- 34:01undercurrent and because everybody there is of the same
- 34:04belief system, they're all Christians, that you just feel
- 34:08like you're supporting each other and sort of a, you know, a
- 34:11greater cause and purpose. Or does some of the coaching
- 34:16actually involve becoming stronger in your faith?
- 34:20Or is it even go so far as to here's how to demonstrate your
- 34:26faith to your employees and your Co workers?
- 34:29Or kind of help me understand that.
- 34:31It's all of it's all of that, you know, in the morning, we
- 34:36start off every day with a devotional and we'll, we'll,
- 34:40we'll pray for people. We'd like that, that, that month
- 34:44that the, the, the business owner, that's their month.
- 34:48We actually pray for them, pray for their business.
- 34:52We have a ministry topic every month that we talked about.
- 34:56We do strategic planning, but it's based on a balance
- 35:00scorecard, right? Five elements.
- 35:04That's revenue generation. We want you to set up goals for
- 35:08revenue for one year, three-year, five years or
- 35:12development, operation management, financial
- 35:15management, but also ministry. What are your goals around
- 35:18ministry for your organization? We want, we want to help you
- 35:22meet those goals. We do that.
- 35:25We encourage people there's a there is some accountability
- 35:29that make sure you do what you say you're going to do.
- 35:31Let your yes be yes and your no be no and yeah.
- 35:36It, it's, it's interwoven throughout the day.
- 35:39It's not separate, but it's inner woman throughout the day
- 35:43and how we pray for people and one another and care for one
- 35:46another, challenge one another. Hey, what does the Bible have to
- 35:52say about how to handle this employee problem that you're
- 35:59bringing up or whatever it may be?
- 36:02So yeah. Can you talk more about the
- 36:05ministry component and what that looks like?
- 36:07What does that coaching look like?
- 36:09What does it look like for your members to go and deliver that?
- 36:13Yeah. So it may be, you know, it may
- 36:17be the ministry portion maybe as such as generosity programs.
- 36:24Hey, I want to my goal next year is to take 10% of my profits and
- 36:30give them to a charity that will, you know, help others.
- 36:35Christ will be honored help missions, whatever it may be to
- 36:40Hey, I'm company will sponsor a mission trip and help people in
- 36:44the local community or wherever may do that.
- 36:48We encourage, you know, members to have a chaplaincy program to
- 36:54to have a chaplain wander your shop floor or your your office
- 36:58just to develop relationships. People are going through hard
- 37:02times, typically don't want to share that to the owner of the
- 37:06boss, but someone who's developed a relationship with
- 37:10they, they will share their difficult times confidentially.
- 37:14That person will help them and that's just there to care for a
- 37:17person. Ministry could be dream dream
- 37:20manager programs where you know the Matthew Kelly's book around
- 37:25dream manager of Hey, not only people in crisis, but what are
- 37:30your goals? What do you want to do?
- 37:32I want to own a house. Well, let's get there's a lot of
- 37:37you. Let's get a a mortgage banker or
- 37:42or a real estate person to come in and talk about how what do
- 37:46you need to do? What are some resources for you
- 37:49to to own a house and to accomplish that gold that that's
- 37:54it. We want to set up a care team.
- 37:56We actually want to care for our people, right?
- 37:59And we want to operate things and those those are just tools
- 38:03that people can use that and and also like the other thing around
- 38:10like people want to work for a company that has a purpose.
- 38:13Like be clear on your purpose, on what do you want to
- 38:16accomplish, right. And let's, let's be clear around
- 38:20mission, vision, core values so that you actually live them.
- 38:23Not that there are slogans on the, on the wall, but you're,
- 38:26you actually, that's who we want to be.
- 38:28That's who we are. And that's what we do.
- 38:31That's what we aspire to be. The all of those things, you
- 38:34know, so we, we just help them with that.
- 38:37It's a journey, you know, it's not typical C12 member is on is
- 38:42a member for at least five years and we have some that are been
- 38:47members for much longer. It's just it's you don't
- 38:50graduate. It's a journey.
- 38:51It's a, you know, way of improvement.
- 38:55You know, you've got a front row seat to what a lot of
- 38:58businesses, business owners are going through.
- 39:01Is there a common thread? Maybe what's the biggest, most
- 39:04common hurdle that you see business leaders dealing with?
- 39:08Yeah, good, great question. Most of these entrepreneurs,
- 39:12business owners, you know, they've started the business.
- 39:17They the business is them, right?
- 39:20They know the business in and out.
- 39:22The business thing grows and all of a sudden they're the
- 39:26bottleneck because they don't want to give up anything they
- 39:30they know. And it's like that transition,
- 39:35not just being an operator of the business, but actually being
- 39:38a leader of the business. And that's a tough transition.
- 39:42You know, you know, to to really think about where the business
- 39:47is and strategically to step back and that change a role,
- 39:51Anthony is so hard. Some some business owners just
- 39:54don't want to do that. And there's I just kept my
- 39:57growth because I don't want to do that.
- 39:59I don't want to grow anymore. OK, but.
- 40:04There, there is a way for you to help and there's a lot of people
- 40:07that talk about that change, right?
- 40:10That that can help you go through that.
- 40:13And hey, we don't make all the right business decisions or
- 40:18decisions in life, but you can adjust, you can improve and and
- 40:22you can get there. If that's your goal, what's your
- 40:24goal? So, you know, it, it brings up
- 40:27an interesting thought because I've talked with a lot of folks
- 40:29and making that transition from founder who's wearing, you know,
- 40:3312 hats to now I'm going to build a company that's got, you
- 40:38know, layers to it, you know, leadership structure it it's
- 40:41really hard. And it's not always the case
- 40:45that the founder mentality is the same kind of mentality to
- 40:50continue to lead the company in to sort of that next phase.
- 40:55Have you identified, are there personality traits that are sort
- 40:59of common amongst the people who are able to make that
- 41:03transition? Yeah, that's a good question.
- 41:07I know 1 trade is what's your worth, what's your identity
- 41:13found in right. Some people get worth out of
- 41:19being the CEO and CEO mean chief everything officer, right, They
- 41:24know it all right, and they don't want to give that up.
- 41:27That's that's I get worth in that right.
- 41:30It gives me value. Well, Oh yeah, I understand
- 41:35that. But there's, there's a greater
- 41:37value if you can help others feel that and others that take
- 41:44that ownership and work alongside you.
- 41:46Wouldn't that be even more powerful if you had a group of
- 41:49people in your business that really had equal ownership and
- 41:56got that value from growing the company and, and knowing it and
- 42:00for you to see them take on that role, wouldn't that be equally
- 42:06as valuable? But that's a tough transition.
- 42:09Those words are easy. Anthony, you, I, I know you know
- 42:12that because you asked the question, but how do you get
- 42:16there? And we'll help you get there,
- 42:18right? There's people out there will
- 42:19help you, not just C12. There's others that will help
- 42:22you if you want to get there. David, whether it's that kind of
- 42:26transition that you're helping somebody through or something
- 42:28completely different, it'd be really interesting for listeners
- 42:32to hear about, I guess, specific case study like here's a member,
- 42:36here's a situation that they had, and here's how we were able
- 42:39to help them and what the end result was.
- 42:42Yeah, yeah. No, it's good.
- 42:44I, I got a member that owns 5 franchises, mortgage banking,
- 42:51mortgage lending franchises. And you know, he's like a
- 42:55typical small business owner. He's never did strategic
- 43:00planning, never had mission, vision, core values.
- 43:04He just, it was always, how am I doing versus last year?
- 43:08Right? I'm doing better.
- 43:09Great. OK, well, last year he became
- 43:13AC12 member and just kind of, and he along with his leadership
- 43:17team, he worked really hard at developing Mission Vision core
- 43:22values didn't have it. And the, the peer advisor group
- 43:27really helped him. He would bring his ideas to the
- 43:30group and use them in open forum and they, they would beat him
- 43:33up, you know, sending back, you know, bloody I'm being
- 43:37facetious, you know, and he would come back and over the
- 43:40course of about four months, he really got a mission Vision,
- 43:46core values that he owned. He he, he owned.
- 43:52And not only that, his leadership team owned, right?
- 43:56It's it's part of who they are. Many did strategic planning,
- 44:00right? What do we want to accomplish?
- 44:03What do we want to accomplish from goals?
- 44:06And what all should we, what should our focus be on?
- 44:08And they, they laid those goals out and then looked at at
- 44:12ministry. Well, we're generous, but we
- 44:15really want to focus on these three ministries and, and put
- 44:20our resources and our profits around supporting these
- 44:23ministries. And now they're being recognized
- 44:27this year for all their contributions to that community
- 44:32and how they've supported that in in.
- 44:35He's going to be at a national event and will be recognized on
- 44:38stage for just for just caring for his community and, and doing
- 44:43that well. And his business is growing.
- 44:46He, he's going through difficult times, but because he's, he's
- 44:50now focused on things much broader than OK, if, if business
- 44:57is tough this month, like I didn't mind my sales goal.
- 45:01I got other positive things going on here, right.
- 45:04And the people have even greater purpose.
- 45:08And it's just a great testimony of a guy that he's just saw they
- 45:12need and said, I'm I'm just going to start putting in the
- 45:15hard work. And he's being recognized next
- 45:18month. And just for caring for his
- 45:21employees, caring for people in his community.
- 45:24And I can see light up as you talk about that.
- 45:25That's clearly a very rewarding thing for you to witness, be a
- 45:29part of. It Yeah, and it's him, you know,
- 45:31I, I, my goal is just I have the privilege to walk alongside this
- 45:36guy and see how God works in his life and how, you know, he works
- 45:41in his business and how he leads.
- 45:42Well, it's just, it's a privilege just to be able to to
- 45:47sit there and, and see that work happen.
- 45:50So. David, what's a serious
- 45:52challenge that you had to overcome in your life, whether
- 45:55it's professional or personal? How did you get through that and
- 45:58what did you learn? Yeah, I'm going to get real,
- 46:03real personal. You know, I when I were when I
- 46:09was leaving Goodyear, my wife, such a wise person, she came to
- 46:15me and said, Dave, you, you, you need to get some counseling.
- 46:19I if you're going to help people, I think you got some
- 46:22things that you need to work through And and I was like, OK,
- 46:28and we have good friends and they said, you know, spend a
- 46:32week go out to do an intensive see she would.
- 46:34I was honored for her to come along.
- 46:36I thought I went because I had an anger issue, not that I
- 46:40outburst. It was more pent up right anger,
- 46:45But what I came to realize is, and still obviously it's not a
- 46:50one and done, but is that, you know, I grew up in a in a
- 46:55performance based household. My my parents are great people,
- 47:01but like there was a lot of love and appreciation for what I did,
- 47:06what I accomplished. So I became focused on my worth
- 47:12as a person was what I did. And what I learned going through
- 47:17that counseling was I didn't have a anger problem.
- 47:20My value was placed in that. And then I started seeing no, I,
- 47:27I serve a God who, who loves me for who I am, not for what I do.
- 47:33What's more important is who I am as a person.
- 47:39Not not the things that I do are my accomplishments, because
- 47:44those things will go away over time or somebody will do
- 47:48something better. But, and, and that was just
- 47:55Anthony, you know, I'm continually and I encourage
- 47:58because I deal with people that are type A personalities,
- 48:02business owners, right? They're really focused on
- 48:04results and making things happen.
- 48:07And those are all important. Results matter.
- 48:10No, no, you know, I tell people you can't have mission without
- 48:15margin, right? So you can results matter if you
- 48:19we want you to have mission, but if you don't have the margin,
- 48:22you don't, you won't have the mission.
- 48:24So you know, and it's just, but at the end of the day, you're
- 48:31still an individual loved by Jesus, even if your business
- 48:37fails, even if you're going through difficult times.
- 48:41And for me, that that was just a light bulb moment.
- 48:45Knowing it that that here, but knowing it here made all the
- 48:52difference in my life. And that's a big challenge.
- 48:54I tend to fall back in my old ways.
- 48:57But yeah, that's real personal. But.
- 49:03I want to explore this for a moment because it's an
- 49:05interesting point. And as an entrepreneur type A
- 49:08person myself, it's something that I've wrestled with.
- 49:11You know, if my wife were listening to this right now,
- 49:13she'd, you know, be pointing the finger right at me.
- 49:16And it's one thing to like recognize it up here and for
- 49:19people who aren't watching, I'm pointing to my brain, my head.
- 49:23But then to to be able to sort of embody that in your whole
- 49:26being and in your heart is a different step, right?
- 49:29You'd sit here and say the words.
- 49:31The words are easy, as you, you know, said earlier.
- 49:35But but how did that light bulb moment go from, you know, sort
- 49:39of conceptually I understand that I am more than my
- 49:41accomplishments to actually feeling that.
- 49:44Yeah, yeah, it's a good question.
- 49:49I, I, it was in a time of, of prayer.
- 49:53I mean, listen, I'm a follower of Christ.
- 49:56And yeah, I, you know, I, I really, it was a time when I was
- 50:04in deep prayer that I really saw and when I was struggling with
- 50:10this in my heart, Jesus smile at me.
- 50:18And that it was a smile of love and it was a exponential in, in
- 50:29how I experienced it. But that experience changed me.
- 50:36It it changed me in a deep way that the God of the universe
- 50:43loves me as a person, as a follower of him when I was and
- 50:49wasn't he, he would still love me.
- 50:51And that that that changed it from here to here, just seeing
- 50:58that. And yeah, it meant all the
- 51:03difference in my in my life and yeah, what I do today.
- 51:08And I share that testimony. I shared it let this past month
- 51:14with my members actually was last week in our meeting and
- 51:18yeah, just just want people to know that there is that out
- 51:23there and and yeah. Is there any way for you to
- 51:29coach your members and coming to a similar realization or do you
- 51:33think they kind of need that same deep prayer spiritual
- 51:38moment themselves to to have it go from the brain to the heart?
- 51:41Yeah, I think, I think, I think it's each person, it's that
- 51:44personal relationship, personal experience it I don't think
- 51:48anybody can do it for you tell you, I think you, you got to,
- 51:53you got to experience, you got to have that self discovery
- 51:56yourself, right. You know, you're obviously very
- 52:00good at asking questions and you know, many times us as business
- 52:07leaders, business owners, and one thing I've learned that I
- 52:11wish I would have done more is ask good questions, not always
- 52:15be the one to give the answer, tell how things were done.
- 52:19Self discovery is far more powerful than somebody telling
- 52:24you what to do. If you can ask the right
- 52:28question, ask powerful questions to help people have that light
- 52:33bulb moment, then they own it. Wow, that's that's theirs then
- 52:39that's powerful and you know that that is so neat and just
- 52:46having people, you know, ask the right questions.
- 52:51If I do that with my members and people, I mean let help help
- 52:56them see it. There's that nothing can replace
- 53:00that I'm. Going to put you on the spot
- 53:03here because this is a tough one, but what's the question
- 53:05more people should be asking? I, I think, I think the best
- 53:19question is what, what, what is the reason I'm doing this?
- 53:28What, what is going to happen if I don't do this that I know I
- 53:34should be doing? It's the what question, right,
- 53:38Not necessarily the why. I think of the what question
- 53:41will add will lead into to the why, but the what question I've
- 53:47learned just reading a book called ask powerful questions.
- 53:51It you know, in in another book, spiritual leadership coaching is
- 53:57really taught me that that question is really, really so
- 54:03strong because it can't be answered yes or no.
- 54:09It's got to be. It's got to be dug through.
- 54:13So yeah, what's my purpose in doing this?
- 54:18What am I going to, you know, what am I going to learn from
- 54:21doing this? What?
- 54:24Just asking those that question is so powerful.
- 54:29Yeah. Where do you see your work with
- 54:33C12 going here in the future? Well, that's a good question.
- 54:37I mean, God played it on my heart, you know, I mean, I, you
- 54:42know, on the website we have a vision video.
- 54:45I want to see 100 businesses in Northeast Ohio get start
- 54:51impacting, you know, people's lives.
- 54:57I mean, you think about it, you got 100 businesses, you got
- 55:02figure 20 employees per business.
- 55:05Those people have got families, those businesses have got
- 55:08customers, those businesses have got suppliers.
- 55:13You're talking hundreds of thousands of lives in Northeast
- 55:17Ohio can be impacted for Jesus Christ just and to to improve
- 55:26people's lives. And that's just so that's like
- 55:30that's my vision. That's what gets me up in in the
- 55:32day to help businesses grow and just be a part of that journey.
- 55:38That's where I want to go. And I, I, I can't do it on my
- 55:42own. I can't be that chief everything
- 55:44officer. I'm looking for people that to,
- 55:47to be at work alongside me, to be fellow chairs with me to help
- 55:52do that and recruit members. And people would come alongside
- 55:56that want to do that and carry that vision and want to do build
- 56:00a Better Business or a great business for a greater purpose.
- 56:04Yeah, let's do it. And yeah.
- 56:07What is that marketing process, that growth process, that
- 56:10recruiting of new members? What have you guys tried that's
- 56:14worked? Well, right now, I mean, because
- 56:17I've, you know, I've got 12 members and I've got what is
- 56:21called a key player group, which is ACEO business owner.
- 56:25He can have a, he or she can have a, a member or, or a key
- 56:30player or more be a part of the, so they go through the same
- 56:34curriculum. Rather than business advice,
- 56:36it's more leadership development.
- 56:39And so you know that it's, it's 12 members getting referrals
- 56:46from them or their key players to talk to other people has
- 56:49really worked. I hold events like I've got an
- 56:53event coming up next Tuesday. It's a no charge event, but it's
- 56:59for people that either see 12 members or not.
- 57:03It's open to anybody to write a legacy letter, right, To write a
- 57:08letter of blessing to your child, your loved one or
- 57:12children. You know, we're going to spend
- 57:14an hour and a half and Blake Brewer owns legacy letter is
- 57:19actually going to use help us write a letter.
- 57:22What would be more impactful to our children's lives and to
- 57:26write a letter of blessing to them and tell them how much you
- 57:30love them for, for not what they do, but who they are and how
- 57:37proud you are of them. And I just, you know, it's
- 57:41something I wanted to do. I heard about that and I was
- 57:44like, so we do that in the I don't do that for marketing.
- 57:48That's a part of it. I do that to help people that
- 57:51really have that need and that, you know those.
- 57:55But I. Yeah, people get blessed from
- 57:59that and they'll tell somebody else and we do other things.
- 58:03Strategic planning workshops where people can come in, we'll
- 58:06help them lay out a strategic. If they want to know more, we'll
- 58:10talk about C12 and how does that can help them.
- 58:14So it's events, it's referrals. I talked to people, you know,
- 58:18all the time. I, I do the typical marketing
- 58:21stuff, e-mail drip campaigns and, and I maybe get 1-2 people
- 58:25out of that, but it's really the referrals, people who's been a
- 58:30part of C12 or know someone has it seem there's something
- 58:36changed in their business that I need to talk to them.
- 58:39And that's when I I talk to people.
- 58:42David, I just got one more question for you, but before I
- 58:44ask it, I want to do a few things.
- 58:45First of all, what's the best way for folks to get in touch
- 58:48with you? Good question.
- 58:51I'm on LinkedIn, happy to do that.
- 58:53David Beasley, you can you can see me on LinkedIn.
- 58:57I have a website, you can contact me through my website
- 59:00and find out more about C12. About me, it's C the letter C12,
- 59:07the number 12, Northeast Ohio, northeastohio.com.
- 59:13C12 northeastohio.com you can connect through with me.
- 59:18Through that you can find out more about C12.
- 59:21Those are the two ways to to get to know me.
- 59:25Great. And we'll make sure we include
- 59:27links to that in the show notes. Couple other things before I ask
- 59:31my last question here, just a reminder that Add Back Benefits
- 59:34agency provides telehealth counseling and therapy and 190
- 59:38prescription meds to employees. It's always free for them to
- 59:40access and it does so in a way that actually puts more money in
- 59:44both the company's and the employees pockets.
- 59:46Add back benefitsagency.com. Finally, everybody listening, if
- 59:50you take just a moment to leave us a comment or review on your
- 59:52favorite podcast app, we will be forever grateful.
- 59:56So last question I have for you, David.
- 59:58One year from now, you and I reconnect and you are super
- 1:00:01excited you're celebrating something big.
- 1:00:03What's that big thing you hope to be celebrating one year from
- 1:00:06today? Yeah, that's good.
- 1:00:09I mean I'm just laid out my strategic plan for 2026, right.
- 1:00:13And numerically, you know, I want to, I want to grow from 12
- 1:00:17members, CEO, business owner members to 24.
- 1:00:22So and so that, that numeric number would say more people,
- 1:00:27more businesses are being changed and people's lives are
- 1:00:31being transformed. So that would be, that would be
- 1:00:34it that that we're our business is blessing others.
- 1:00:40It would be great. Excellent.
- 1:00:42David Beasley from C12 Business Forums in Northeast Ohio.
- 1:00:46I want to be first to thank you for sharing both your time and
- 1:00:49your story with us today. I really appreciate it.
- 1:00:52It's an honor. Folks, that's a wrap on another
- 1:00:55episode of the Inspired Stories podcast.
- 1:00:57Thanks for learning with us today.