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Farmers Insurance Open - PGA Leverage Lane | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS | Single-Entry GPP Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's going clear the left up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Every one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and
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  Speaker 2: Tambo back for another edition of Leverage Lane here on
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  Speaker 2: the Ship and Nation YouTube station, PG A d f
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  Speaker 2: S edition where we teach you how to play, not
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  Speaker 2: who to play? Going to be breaking it down from
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  Speaker 2: a single entry g VP perspective. Got my man, Alex
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  Speaker 2: Blickle here with me as always and all quickly you
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  Speaker 2: dressed the elephant in the room new year knew me.
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate all the birthday wishes in the chat,
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  Speaker 2: but if I'm gonna be a year older, I want
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  Speaker 2: to feel ten years younger. So the mustache bit is over.
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  Speaker 2: We've ended it, We've called it quit. Scottie got the
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  Speaker 2: w last week, Alex, my man, what's going on? How
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  Speaker 2: you doing?
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  Speaker 3: My friend doing very well. We've got just a phenomenal
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  Speaker 3: tournament this week. I think we probably agree that, like
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  Speaker 3: if last week wasn't the second week of the season,
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  Speaker 3: when we're still just so hyped to have PG back,
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  Speaker 3: we're probably not super into that tournament. This one's just
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  Speaker 3: really good all around the boards. Phenomenal golf course, phenomenal field.
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  Speaker 3: Really excited to dive in.
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  Speaker 2: I love this event. It's actually just a quick story time.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first ever big PGA win I ever had.
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  Speaker 2: Was we'll date it really far back. Robert Gerrigis was
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  Speaker 2: in the lineup and it was a south course north
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  Speaker 2: course lineup. I built a six tozer south first North.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone was telling me you had to start on the
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  Speaker 2: north and the mindset of golfers they know so well,
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  Speaker 2: like you're a golfer yourself, as you know, we've talked
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  Speaker 2: with this in the past. I said, no, no, no, get
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  Speaker 2: the herd shit out of the way first. Then you'll
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  Speaker 2: feel real good going into the north course. Score low,
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  Speaker 2: just make the cut and then whatever happens happens. And
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  Speaker 2: it was the back in the day. It was a
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  Speaker 2: three dollars twenty max. This is the condess have changed
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but it was a three dollars four
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  Speaker 2: dollars twenty max I think. And it ended up being
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  Speaker 2: forty k for second place. So, uh, first ever huge
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  Speaker 2: score on the Pgadfstuytes was at this event but excited
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  Speaker 2: about this one. So yeah, no, the bit just ended, Tim,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the bit just ended. We had it along.
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  Speaker 2: I got third in the million Maaker. I tried to
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  Speaker 2: prove these people wrong. I had my best, second best,
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  Speaker 2: I should say best in a while, but second best
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  Speaker 2: NFL DFS season ever, and we still got the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Anything could happen, but the super Bowl is like three
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  Speaker 2: K in entries, max it try and win this insane
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  Speaker 2: big tournament. Whatever happens happens. If if I ship that great,
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  Speaker 2: if I don't. I don't think the mustache plays a fact.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know, I don't believe in Jinx's MUSHes, none
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  Speaker 2: of that shit. I don't care about any of it.
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  Speaker 2: So Alex, let's talk about last week a little bit. First,
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  Speaker 2: we recap it. Obviously, as people know, we are going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about farmers, but this show is meant
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  Speaker 2: to be just sort of lure and go edutainment, if
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  Speaker 2: you will. We're trying to bring some education with some entertainment,
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  Speaker 2: bring it towards this week. But we do got to
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  Speaker 2: talk about last week a couple things. One up the
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  Speaker 2: top was the Scotty win but some of those guys
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  Speaker 2: not coming with him, and then like round four showdown
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  Speaker 2: where he won but still wasn't even close to being needed.
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  Speaker 2: And then I also think there was some stuff with
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  Speaker 2: ownership like Rico hooey. I thought he was gonna be
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  Speaker 2: twenty percent. Nope, that was Ryan Gerard and so little
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  Speaker 2: things like that. Where do you want to start, my friend?
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly recap last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a pretty solid week for me. I
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  Speaker 3: missed out on mainslate again, but second week in Rower
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  Speaker 3: had a really good showdown day. This time it was
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  Speaker 3: round four. Last week it was round three, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was really interesting because I didn't have Scotti in
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  Speaker 3: that round four showdown got I think was fifth place
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  Speaker 3: twenty five hundred bucks, and I had four percent Jason
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  Speaker 3: Day explosion. And I also had the Wyndham Clark who
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  Speaker 3: really did nothing at all, And so you know, if
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  Speaker 3: Wyndham had played, well, I'm right there. No one above
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  Speaker 3: me had Windham, so I really had a chance. And
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  Speaker 3: I think the key is I might have been able
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  Speaker 3: to fit Day with a Scotti lineup, like maybe there
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  Speaker 3: was a way to do that salary wise, But I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have had Day because Day wasn't like someone that
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  Speaker 3: I had this major conviction on it, and I was
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  Speaker 3: always gonna play Jason Day no matter what. Day was
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  Speaker 3: just one of many guys that I really liked in
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  Speaker 3: that price range that I could get because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: have Scotty, so I had foul or I had Henley,
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  Speaker 3: I had Day. It was like, any of these guys
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  Speaker 3: can be the really low and separator for me today
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  Speaker 3: it happened to end up being Jason Day, but I
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  Speaker 3: only had that many chances for a separator of that
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  Speaker 3: magnitude because I wasn't using Scotty. And I think the
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  Speaker 3: point is we're finally maybe getting to a point where,
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  Speaker 3: particularly in showdowns, Scotty has priced so well that he
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  Speaker 3: absolutely has to get first place, He has to win,
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  Speaker 3: he has to be the high score of the day
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  Speaker 3: to really be necessary, just because he takes so much
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  Speaker 3: away from what you can do in the rest of
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  Speaker 3: your lineup. And you know, having the chance to have
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  Speaker 3: separate ors who are actually good golfers and not very
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  Speaker 3: you know, bottom of the of the price school, you
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  Speaker 3: need them to have like an absolute career day to
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  Speaker 3: be great for you type type of performance. So that
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  Speaker 3: was a big takeaway for me, And I think that
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  Speaker 3: does extend to the main slate at least a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but certainly not as much as it does to showdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to add to that, because I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is not going to be any victory. Lap. I
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  Speaker 2: can promise you that I got to I had sixty
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  Speaker 2: percent Scotty last week and still lost. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter about just getting Scotty, and that's part
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  Speaker 2: of it. But I will say, like to even this point,
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  Speaker 2: so he moonwalked further than I even expected, twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: percent in the flagship. Obviously, different single entries things like
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to talk about here are different. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the main pole with what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I know a ton of people reached out to me
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  Speaker 2: directly in the discords things like that in the open
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  Speaker 2: talking about our math examples, and they loved how we
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  Speaker 2: sort of went through that. You really went through it.
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  Speaker 2: We're able to break it down. They love that you
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  Speaker 2: had it ready in real time to go on, like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: if this then that funny enough. The guy we mixed
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  Speaker 2: into the second round was see Wu, who obviously a
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  Speaker 2: great Sunday but he was another guy that was right
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  Speaker 2: up there. But the second part of this statement from
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  Speaker 2: my man new Ones is so correct. Early. I know,
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  Speaker 2: two weeks in, I get it, but football is going
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  Speaker 2: on and touts whatever you want to. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter whatever you call him, cal him. But
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  Speaker 2: at my point, is anybody talking about DFS. It's obviously
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  Speaker 2: very niche in the space when you have I call
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  Speaker 2: him lazy weeks. I don't think last week was lazy
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  Speaker 2: at all. More people are digging in than ever now,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm saying more of if someone says one thing
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  Speaker 2: like Gerard was really hyped up in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: places last week, and clearly for good reason, they were correct.
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  Speaker 2: He came through and had himself a what was it
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  Speaker 2: T two with everybody else that was there, so he
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  Speaker 2: got the love HOEI did not right, And if you listened,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying, like, ho, he's been good.
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  Speaker 2: But if you kind of did good chock bad chock
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  Speaker 2: hoey would have immediately been thrown into like the pile
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  Speaker 2: of like why are we really playing him when there's
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  Speaker 2: dozens of guys around him. There's not that much of
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  Speaker 2: it between Gerard, but people were backing him. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: early in this specifically and then on some of those
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  Speaker 2: lazy weeks, the weeks before major or after a maure
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  Speaker 2: sometimes people are playing a little bit more to what
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  Speaker 2: people are saying, and that goes both ways that you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's who should I be on. Well, it can really
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  Speaker 2: get amped up in a certain range like the mid
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  Speaker 2: sevens where these guys were. It can also really go
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  Speaker 2: against somebody if someone's saying, no, don't do this in
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  Speaker 2: this range, because that's where people say, well, they told
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  Speaker 2: me to be kind of bullshit to play that guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just not going to play that guy. And on
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  Speaker 2: certain weeks, Alex, it does get amped up a little
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  Speaker 2: more than others. And I would say because we're still
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  Speaker 2: we were currently in the heart of the AFC Conference
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  Speaker 2: Championships and NFC sorry, the NFL Conference Championships AFCNFC both
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  Speaker 2: where you kind of get that set up of people
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  Speaker 2: just looking at what others are saying and then playing
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: Well. Also, it's important to recognize, like this is sports specific,
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  Speaker 3: and it makes sense because when you start the NFL season,
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  Speaker 3: you get a lot of like NFL fans who are
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  Speaker 3: trying DFS for the first time. When we get to
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  Speaker 3: the start of PGA DFS season, we get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of DFS players who are trying PGA DFS for the
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  Speaker 3: first time. They're not as familiar with the players, so
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  Speaker 3: of course they have to lean on on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: their favorite experts a little bit more and projections a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more than they do an NFL, where they're
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  Speaker 3: really playing off their own ideas and their own you know,
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  Speaker 3: feelings and opinions of players and things of that nature.
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  Speaker 3: So one thing I do want to add is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we talked a lot last week about how Scotty ownership
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  Speaker 3: would affect ownership everywhere else We ended up being pretty
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  Speaker 3: dialed in on Scotty. We had him at thirty percent
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  Speaker 3: in mm in, twenty nine percent in single entry. I
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  Speaker 3: think he was like twenty four percent in single entry,
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  Speaker 3: and I think you said like twenty seven percent of
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  Speaker 3: the flag ships. I was pretty pleased with where we
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  Speaker 3: ended on him, and it did set us up really
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  Speaker 3: well elsewhere. It was actually one of our best weeks
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  Speaker 3: ever for ownership, except we had one of the biggest
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  Speaker 3: misses that I personally have ever had in ownership, which
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  Speaker 3: was Rico Hoey, and that obviously was related to Girard.
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  Speaker 3: And so I do want to spend a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of time like really kind of talking through what the
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  Speaker 3: hell happened with Rico Hoy's ownership, because we we had
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  Speaker 3: him I think twenty four percent in single entries. I
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  Speaker 3: don't even think we were the highest, and he came
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  Speaker 3: into like eight percent and two hundred dollars single entry.
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  Speaker 3: So I have my own personal thought. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: like I want to start by also mentioning he was
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  Speaker 3: thirty four percent in the King of the Desert. So
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  Speaker 3: it very much wasn't a case of like the industry
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  Speaker 3: just didn't think as highly of him as we thought
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  Speaker 3: the industry did. There was something else to it. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear your thoughts because then I have
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  Speaker 3: some thoughts on my own as well.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't have too many. I think like at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's, you know, back to
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  Speaker 2: the previous point the news kind of had. I think
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  Speaker 2: just in the end, Girard was what people settled on,
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  Speaker 2: and so I think it's more a product of people
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  Speaker 2: listening to the positives than going against the negatives. Like
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear a lot of people say, oh, he's
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  Speaker 2: a horrible play at seventy seven hundred. I heard it some,
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  Speaker 2: of course, that gets out the discourse. I also heard
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  Speaker 2: people say Girard is a horrible play at that ownership
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  Speaker 2: or things like that, Like I get it, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's way more a product of Girard over hoe
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  Speaker 2: and that's what ended up happening in the in the
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  Speaker 2: end result as well, I think certainly, like from some
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  Speaker 2: other perspectives, it's like maybe the types of lineups that
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  Speaker 2: were being built, like but you know, to the point
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  Speaker 2: of Scotty going backwards, Scotty moonwalking some it's like that
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  Speaker 2: could allow for more of those guys to fit in,
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  Speaker 2: So why wouldn't people have just played them together? Right,
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  Speaker 2: That's that's part of the thought as well, So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not too sure. I know, like in the balance builds,
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  Speaker 2: that was one of the points I was bringing up
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  Speaker 2: all week, even though Hoey was in the Scotty example.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, if you were going to a more
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  Speaker 2: balanced build, you could still land in that range, and
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  Speaker 2: you would have thought it would have been more Hoey,
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  Speaker 2: Girard and somebody else, maybe Burger if he could fit.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe dropping down like that might have meant you had
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  Speaker 2: to go from Henley to see Wu. I don't remember exactly,
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  Speaker 2: but I just think it was definitely a Girard greater
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  Speaker 2: than greater than Hoey thing for a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: and I think they were being told that and they
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  Speaker 2: went with it, because if you went to the projections
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  Speaker 2: on all the sites, Hoey and Gerard were pretty close,
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  Speaker 2: not too far apart of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you kind of nailed it at the
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  Speaker 3: start there just talking about how like it was very
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  Speaker 3: much a product of Gerard being right below him and
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  Speaker 3: being like this clear secondary chalk where people saw an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to be more contrarian with a player that they
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  Speaker 3: maybe had even more confidence in. And I think the
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  Speaker 3: big takeaway for me is We're not going to get
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  Speaker 3: this every single week. It's not like we're going to
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  Speaker 3: look at every single field and we're going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to say, oh, this guy's predicted a twenty percent,
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  Speaker 3: this guy's projected at fifteen. That's going to flip. I
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  Speaker 3: guarantee it. It's not going to be a situation like that.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think we should be aware of the
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  Speaker 3: fact that people are very much using more game theory
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  Speaker 3: and using ownership to make like these more aggressive decisions.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing that more now than they have in the past,
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  Speaker 3: even like two years ago, three years ago in PJADFS,
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  Speaker 3: So we want to be aware of that. And then
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  Speaker 3: the second thing I'll say here is we talked about
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  Speaker 3: conditional ownership a lot on Leverage Lane throughout the NFL
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  Speaker 3: season and how we could get you know, unique combinations
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  Speaker 3: of players by going to combos that people didn't really
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  Speaker 3: think of. And I think there's also a scenario here
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  Speaker 3: where we can do that sort of thing. People viewed
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  Speaker 3: Girard as a direct pivot off of HOEI One way
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  Speaker 3: we know that is Gerard came in almost like this
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  Speaker 3: same amount higher than his ownership projections, then Hoey came
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  Speaker 3: in under. So people really were making this decision of
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  Speaker 3: I'm using Gerard instead of Hoey. Very few people said
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  Speaker 3: I'll just use both. And so when we do get
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  Speaker 3: these instances where there's a clear chalk and a clear
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  Speaker 3: pivot above everybody else, I think we're going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to get the combo of the two at at
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  Speaker 3: like a pretty low combinatorial ownership, which is something we
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  Speaker 3: saw last year as well. We've we've talked about the
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  Speaker 3: example from uh, you know, the Scottish Open with Harry Hall,
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Fox and Met Fitzpatrick before. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: that sort of thing is something we should be on
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  Speaker 3: the lookout for again, like we're not We're not just
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  Speaker 3: trying to provide analysis for for the weekend hand. We're
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  Speaker 3: trying to do this like Evergreen, you know, DFS strategy
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  Speaker 3: type thing. I think this idea of getting low combinatorial
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  Speaker 3: ownership on guys when when other people are viewing them
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  Speaker 3: as an or instead of a possible and is a
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  Speaker 3: is a really good way to approach DFS, especially when
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  Speaker 3: they're both projected as well as those two were this
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  Speaker 3: past week.
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  Speaker 2: And not a better time then Scotty at fourteen K
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  Speaker 2: plus than this Forevergreen because it, guess what, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of see it a lot this season. The guy literally
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  Speaker 2: came out he's won for one. You can't win them
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  Speaker 2: all if you don't win the first. Well, he got
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  Speaker 2: that note over and done with. Bennett Scheffler has now
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  Speaker 2: seen twelve wins and he's like two years old. It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty infortant stuff. So looking at it from that perspective,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I called this out last week. It ended
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  Speaker 2: up being a four to six. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: justin Rose and I forget the other guy that let
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  Speaker 2: me down. Not the best for remembering that stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: have a good thought process going in, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: have it right in front of me. But I do
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  Speaker 2: have some of the other stuff. But you know, Girard
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  Speaker 2: at nineteen sure, but Day fits Scotty member Scotty and
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  Speaker 2: five under ten percent. Well, people don't like you nail
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  Speaker 2: the point there. Oh I'm gonna move off hoe and
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  Speaker 2: go to Girard. Yeah, you just hopped onto the train
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  Speaker 2: that's about to be ten percent higher owned somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you can remove that range. And he said, well,
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  Speaker 2: how would you know, Well, you talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 2: Something that you like that I do, and I talk
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  Speaker 2: about it all the time in football and in golf
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  Speaker 2: of the people that the names or the play the
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  Speaker 2: picks and plays quote unquote, the people are talking about
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  Speaker 2: but not clicking, and they are clicking it. That's where
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  Speaker 2: people get this confused. What I mean is though, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way Jason Day was getting to ten percent.
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  Speaker 2: So if you were landing in the low eight case
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  Speaker 2: instead of the upper sevens, he's a great pivot there.
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  Speaker 2: Not because of his result he was six percent. He
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  Speaker 2: ended up giving you a good result, But you go
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  Speaker 2: down the board a little bit. Sam Stevens like I
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  Speaker 2: loved him last week. He was he was in my
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  Speaker 2: line as one of those five under ten percent, he
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  Speaker 2: was four point six nine percent. Thigala played him in
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  Speaker 2: my core the week before, comes back, has another week
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  Speaker 2: three percent at seventy two hundred. Hogy you liked him
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  Speaker 2: the week before three percent at sixty five hundred, Bridgeman
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: six percent, Wyndham Clark five percent. These guys are putting
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: up one hundred and twenty points almost and the people
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: are playing them five percent, but no one's committing to them.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: So you have to kind of think of this. You
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: had a great call last week on Ricky Fowler ends
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: up being six percent. Are they talking about him enough?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: But are they clicking him? No? How tong Lee, everyone
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: liked him the week before this week came back at
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: two point six percent. So even like the other guys
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: are kind of conditional, got like seven eight per on,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: like the mcgreevy's, the McCarty's, the Cooties, they're seven to
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: nine percent. They're not eighteen or twenty. And I know
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you say, okay, but you need a Gerard at nineteen, right.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: That happened, but you can play I went with that
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: in single entry, in the in the large, in anything
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: for that's this matter but just of note for the
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: evergreen side. If if it was Scotty and Girard and
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: then four guys under ten percent, you're still just fine.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I was just committing to something because that's how I
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: wanted to play it. Where even a five a six,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: And the big thing for me, alex to finalize this
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: because you won't get this very often, but it just
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: to finalize last week, in my opinion, is the three
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: course guaranteed the fifty four hole cut. That's what I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: kept saying about heverage, heavy leverage. Was my four to
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: six was right in the mix. If it was a
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: five or six, I cash easily, no problems whatsoever. Really,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could add the same bad day from
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: the one golfer and again butterfly effect. I get all that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I'm just noting it. Of why that mattered to me
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: because everyone assumes like, well, you gotta have six to
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: six to do anything, especially it's gonna be higher, not
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: necessarily the way the board shook out, and a five
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: of six with big leverage if you have three if
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you have four guys in my lineup in the five
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: to six example, and Scott, he's th trou and gonna win
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: if I have just four guys and not five, but
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: they're all three to five percent or whatever they end
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: up landing on. If two of those guys have a
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: big day, that can be massive separation because nobody else
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: really has them. And so that's the difference that people
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: don't quite always see it or think about it. So
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a way. It's kind of like
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: late swap in NFL in a different way. Right, you're down,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna win. I have a five or six.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to win, but I'm gonnam I
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: do this before the tournament starts, but I am swinging
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: for the fences with the low owned plays to allow
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: me in an uncontrollable position to still be able to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: get my best result. In NFL, you're probably not winning
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: if you're sixty percent on running back bus in the morning,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: but you're not winning if you stay put you go
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and then reach for separation because you're allowed to late swap.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: In PJA, you can't do that, but you can build
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: it in in advance if you will. I don't if
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: you have anything else to add to that, but it's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: kind of my final two cents for last week.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it really good point about last week
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: is that the six per six percentage was low, and
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: that's sort of, you know, something that I pay a
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: lot of attention to, and I would I can very
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: confidently say that over the past two years, you know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I've had a decent amount of success in pgdfs, and
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: almost all of my takedowns are all my sweats have
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: come in a week swere the six for six percentage
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: was really low. And and so if there's a twenty
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: percent six for six rate, chances are I'm not in contention.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: But when there's a three percent six for six rate
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: or four percent six for six rate, I'm going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: be in contention. And uh, you know quite a bit.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And and and that has been a strategy that works
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: really well for me, and I think it's it's a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: good segue into this week because we do have a
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: week where I think there are a lot of good
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: opportunities to be controlling here. We don't have to eat
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of chalk. There are high probability low owned plays.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So very excited for this week, and hopefully a lot
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of the chalk fails and we get a really low
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: six or six percentage here at Tory punts.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last you said finalizes everything. Because we did
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: this for football. That's why we continue this series and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: we want to keep doing it, and I think people
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: love it because in football you said the same and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: so did I say. Yes, Guess when our best weeks
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: are when there's lower scoring. Guess what The lower scoring
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: is caused by chalk busting. It's the same thing here.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: So when people are like, oh, I gotta play this
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: chalk piece or I gotta play this chalk piece, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: prefer oftentimes to not play those chalk pieces or play
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: them in at least a very different way, because it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: actually better for me if they boss. And people think, oh, yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: but you only have like twenty percent of your lineup
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: six to six, Well that's great. When the six of
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: six is two percent, It's like, that's what I'm hoping for.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Like those are the weeks where you can have those
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: big explosions and make up for all the weeks you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: gonna lose. Like you just people got to get that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: through their head. If you're winning every week somehow or
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: min cashing it or whatever, you're probably not playing good. Right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Congrats on the mint cashes, but you may never find
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the promised land, so certainly think that's something as well.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Where do you want to start here? Because last time
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I know well the one and done section, the betting
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: segment are lane at the end. I do not have
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a lane as of right now because I want to
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: sort of talk a few things with you here. I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: have some thoughts. But it's a fun event. Like I said,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: this field is strong. I love this course. I love
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the setup. I think it's good. It's the two day
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: course swap and then the rest over the weekend on
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the south. But the setup of that is still for
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: a regular cut event with a very strong field. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: do you have anything on the weather? First? Maybe start there,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and then anything on the course rotation in general, being
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that it's different than last week. It's north south south north.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: After that we're all well in one place before cut.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Anything you want to add to that?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Like last week, very little weather, maybe even less because
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: you know, last week we were talking about the possibility
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: that we were going to get heavier wins on Saturday.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have really calm days throughout this week. So
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: nothing on the course rotation for me, but I will
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: say this course fit model this week is one of
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the most reliable off season, it's one of the most predictive.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: It's also one of the most extreme. We have a
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: ninety four percent boost on the predictive value of driving
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: distance this week. So you take any skill like tuck,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: take two guys and say they're half a stroke different
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: in their stroke skin driving distance, well, this week on
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: this golf course. For these golf courses, that half a
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: stroke difference translates into almost a full stroke difference, because
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: we're almost at a one hundred percent boost on the
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: predictive value of driving distance, negative twenty percent on driving accuracy,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: about even neutral with approach play, and then a sixty
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: percent boost on around the green and almost a ten
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: percent boost on putting. So really really kind of clear
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: of what type of player succeeds here. You want distance,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: you want scoring around the greens, and then honestly like
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you also just want a complete player. Every single one
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of these skill sets is quite predictive here. Even if
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it's negative twenty percent, like accuracy, this still means you
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: have to be accurate. And if you compare that accuracy
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: with distance, now you're really in the driver's seat. So
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I absolutely love this golf course. Because of From one hand,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: just as a golf right, I just love the design
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and the difficulty of the course, but I also love
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: it from a DFS perspective because it's one of the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: most predictive and it also points us to some like
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: really clear course for it specialists who are going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: project a lot better here than they want on most
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: golf courses.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said they're not gonna bring it up this week.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I think in the spirit of time, we had a
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: good little recap from last week. I think was strong
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: because that's gonna matter for people moving forward. And then
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: somebody asked us too about like doing a review show.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I said at the start of the season,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Like I think the review we do on this and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: then how to apply it moving forward, and the ability
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: to go back and rewatch and do these different factors,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and then taking everything we're talking about for this week
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and applying it right directly to the slate. To your point,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: there's just gonna be so much more you pick up
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: from that, and the benefit is you can actually go
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: apply it immediately versus a review shows like what happened
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: in the past, and if we're reviewing the master is great,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: well the Master's going to be in a year, so
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: then we'll see you don't get to any apply any
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: of that necessarily until the following year. So I like
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: how we're doing it this way. Where do you want
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to start with the chalk build for this week? I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: know you just talked about a lot of the factors
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that you think are important and why that can be
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you know, historically beneficial all these factors you mentioned, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: what sort of thought process do you have around the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: ownership this week week and what's formulating as the chalk build.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get your take on what you
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: expect the field to do with Xander, because I'm seeing
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: signs that the field is going to be very heavy
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: on Xander, and I think there are two reasons for this.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Number One, he's very clearly the best option between himself,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: can't laying over just in terms of like how well
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: he projects. If they have their A games, who's the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: best of the three? Xander wins pretty clearly, and they're
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: significantly more bunched in price than we often see from
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the best player in the field ten to one to ten,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: four to ten five with Showfley, So I'm seeing signs
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: of him being super popular. But I went into the
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: week thinking there was a chance that we were going
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: to see higher ownership on you know, Camyonger, Sebu Kim
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: or JJ Spawn or Chris Goddarup, and those guys were
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: going to be the highest one at the top, not Xander. Instead,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I am seeing it Xander right now. So I kind
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: of wanted to get your opinion on that, because this,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: to me feels like one that could flip if people say, okay,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I can and just build a more balance build and
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: get two guys that I think are almost as good
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: as Shafley, since Shaffley obviously didn't have anywhere close to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: his best stuff all of last season.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so two things. One, this week is very different
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: from last not say he didn't say that, just noting
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it for people out there is like, the difference is
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: now you have a ten to five golfer and a
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: bunched up nine K ten K range is not like
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a fourteen k plus golfer with Scotti last week at
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: whatever with fourteen four or fourteen whatever. Where you see that,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh man or fourteen two it might have been,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I can't remember now, but anyway, it's that. And then
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: The other thing is too, it's the range of options.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And realistically, this week, I just don't see the six
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: K range popping up for people like it did last week.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Do I see pok Geider popping up? Yeah, for a
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: six K guy, Yeah, I see him getting a little
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: bit of love. Do I see some other guys down
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: there that might get some Maybe? But I think it
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: looks like, as of right now, possibly only pock Geiter
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: gets over five percent, and even he's gonna end up
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: five to ten percent, it's not as gonna be chalk.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: He's just the chalk of the point one percent on
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: guys down there versus him. So that matters too, because
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: now people just say, all right, I can get different
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in the sevens, like from is there one, two, three, four, five,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: sixtenty nine to little three sixty nine twenty three guys
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: between like seventy two and seventy five hundred. That alone
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: just gives people the rights to be able to go
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: there still get different and play Xander. And that's the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: thing at the top. It just usually goes by projections
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and when people can afford the most expensive guy, it's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it's a handbuilder thing, it's an optimizer thing. In some
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: cases depending on the rules set up and all that,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: where it's like, if I have the ability, someone will
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: literally land with ten to five where it lands on
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Xander and be like perfect. But also somebody will land
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and be like, oh I love can't lay and be
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like ten to one and be like, eh, four hundred
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: bucks left, gotta spend it. Boom. That's why people are
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: broken and have you know, mortgage payments missed and cars
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that they're financed out the asshole like it. Just if
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you can spend it, you can spend it, and that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: what ends up happening. So I do think Xander gets
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a little more love than we see. Now. I have
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: two more though quick thoughts. One is we put two
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: guys on the cover, so it's surrounding both of those.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: If people are going the route of the Gerard thing
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: this week, I feel like it could be on Cameron Young.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I do feel like the difference is like Xander
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: or Young. I think Oberg obviously dropped out of last
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: week with the illness. By the way, did he not
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: crush the South course here last year in round one
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and then have an illness and then like play badly
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and try and stick around. Is that what happened?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it was the other way around.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I think he crushed the North.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: The reason I say that because if anybody doesn't, I'm
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: sure they know by now and watching this should know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: But like the South course is harder than the North.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was what was so crazy about it,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is like he crushed. He definitely crushed day one. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: know that. I just for some reason felt like it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was on the South. Were like, holy shit, he's really
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: gonna crush it this week. But wait, no, he's not.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be sick. But anyway, either way, he dropped out.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I think he also started well on day two on
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the South and then kind of got sick. Maybe maybe
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: you thought differently last year. I kind of thought that
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: whole was overblown that, you know, people were kind of
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: excusing his next like a month before play as him
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: just being sick from that time, and I kind of thought,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you know what, his game was inconsistent. He had a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: very clear hole in his game around the green play
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: that was really holding him back. And I think we
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: kind of saw that throughout the whole season. So look,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe I was wrong about that, and maybe his
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: his long term forecast or his uh all his projections
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: and numbers from last year are actually you know, deflated
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: by by that illness. But yeah, I kind of I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: still the point where with Oberg I want to wait
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and actually see you know, uh, the player that we
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: all know he can be before I start treating him
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like that, which I think a lot of the field
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: is already doing.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Well. Now I'm tripping out, like what what happened here
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: last year? I got to go back and see that
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: something's not adding up farmer's insurance open mm hmm. For
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: last year it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Was when pot Geater was was in contention, I believe, Yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and remember we also had we also then had the
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: uh the Genesis played here as well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Is that what it was? Maybe that's what it was.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to see. So last year the winner was.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: How come I was English?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Harris? Right? Yeah, That's why I was like something in
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that up and I was like, okay, that's what I English? Yeah, English?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Stevens Novack, my boy Sung Jay, sorry about the injury
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: he's got right now, but probably saving me some cash
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: in the DFS streets. But yeah, So I was trying
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to see that because I was like, what is going
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: on here with the the Ludwig stuff because last year
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: was two different events I think starred right, like the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: back to back events. Did did Ludwig come back and win? Yeah?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: He then won the Genesis which was also played here.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: That's what it was. That sounds like that's what was
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: messing me up. So anyway, there's that. But going back
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to my points now and can't lay just gets left
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: alone for thee hundred bucks lest I think people just
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: go to you, or go all the way up to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Xander or even drop into the nine case, which we'll
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: get too shortly. But the other thing I want to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: bring up was the Brooks factor. I know people said like, oh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Brooks is gonna get played because you know, people haven't
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: got to play him for so long. I just don't
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: believe any ownership number I see on him because the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: people don't care. Nobody cares that all I didn't get
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to play a live guy Brooks cap like, no one's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: thinking anything about this. It's cool that he came back,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it's his first event back. All that's great. The way
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the DFS works does not usually work around that. So
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if Brooks is like high, like mid
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: double digits or something that some people are projecting like
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen. I don't see that personally, but maybe
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I just think people are so
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: much more likely to even go to Hoguard below, Adam
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Scott above, Jake Napp for sure, anybody there in my opinion.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you have any extra thoughts you
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: want to add, But that's just some of the other
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: thoughts I have beyond your Xander point.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: No, I think you're right, and I think it kind
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: of leads into the next point about like what the
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: quote unquote Chaluk build is this week, which is it's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: really hard to identify build because we have a more
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: spread out ownership this week. And it's not that we
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: have like very few chockey plays. We actually have a bunch,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: but because there are so many popular plays, so many
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: guys that people like really are drawn to, it just
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: kind of keeping them all in check a little bit.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So like we we've got you know, Cam Yong Sewu,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: spawn Headecki, got her up, McNeely, Pendrith, Gerard Knapp, Rasmus Stevens,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Thorpe Jornson, Hgo Nikolai and Pearson Coodie, like all fourteen
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: to twenty five percent something like that. So there are
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: just so many guys that people are gonna be drawn to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And to your point, that means it's gonna be hard
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: for keep Goat to get much higher than the eight
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: percent that we haven't projected for. And another point there
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: is like, it's not like he's been playing well around
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: the world. He has two good starts in a row,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: but prior to that it was kind of struggle City.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Outside of his good was it Open Championship or US Open,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: US Open performance back at Oakland he was good, but
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: you know, even in the Open Championship he was then
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: cut from So I don't think people have enough reason
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: yet to play Brooks. On the other hand, if he
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: plays well this week, he will be popular next week
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: when he goes so of course that he's played so
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: well out of the past, and also and then has
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: the hype of oh he's back and he's playing well
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: type thing, so then he'll be really junking.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And don't forget this is leverage lane, but a huge
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: narrative street Next week is the last time when the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Seahawks and the Patriots were in the Super bowl, Brooks
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Kepta won that way. It's management Phoenix opened. I think
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: it was like the I think it was him and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: JT or someone like JT clipped a tree and then
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Brooks ended up getting away with it or something like
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that's odding up shaking. I think that was it. Maybe
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong again, but people don't have a bad memory.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that was and I'm getting older so that
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that adds up. But I think one thing you said there,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I definitely don't envy you any want a ship a
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: nation basically anybody that does ownership this week, because no
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: matter what we can kind of figure out about those
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: quick thoughts that we had, that doesn't make a nine
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to ten, eleven, twelve thirteen for whatever your range is
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: on all these guys any easier to get correct because
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: when you go to certain ranges here just to finish
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: out your thoughts. But like I think day Spawn and
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Decky and got her up, those would be like, oh,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that's the four the others get pushed down. But how
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: much did those guys go up and how much do
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the others get pushed down? This week? Higgo could be
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: like HOI where people think he's gonna be played, but
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: then I think people just land on Thor or your
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: guy one of the other hole guards, Nikolai like he
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: looks good too, and he's starting to get a little
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: bit of steam right now, is from what I'm seeing
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Pearson Coody, Patrick Rogers. Sounds weird but true, Like some
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of these guys are where I see it going. And
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: then if you go down again, like I guess the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: big thing for me then just to you know, because
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get to have a leverage of the chokbuild
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in a minute. I don't know if do you have
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: anything you want to add more to the chalk field
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: to me to wrap up the Chock build. If I'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: saying my final piece on it, it is seventy two
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: hundred and up and it's gonna be multiple guys in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that mid sevens for sure, And then however you want
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to wrap it up. You can say it's Xander a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: nine k and land there, Xander a couple eight k's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and land there, or you could say it's fading the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: ten k's and going three nine k's and going there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But to me, that's what the chalk build is. It's
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: just not fully clear on exactly who it will be,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: but there's pretty good idea. The problem is there's a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: ton of like two v two's and three v three's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: and all that. That's you know, I was definitely gonna
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: bring that up today. That's certainly a thing that happens
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: in these spots. You'll say, I know so and so
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is gonna play this in the high stakes. You could
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: be correct, or you could be a three v three away,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and that doesn't necessarily fully matter until it does. But
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just noting. It just shows that the six k's
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: will be unowned, the low sevens will be pretty low owned.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Even our favorites, which I was gonna get to, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'll finish it now, Meisner McGreevy, not our favorite field
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: favorites and sweethearts if you will, or whatever. They just
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: can't get the ownership right now. As it stands like
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: they can get to five six or something, but I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: don't know if they can get much higher than that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: at least.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, And I also say, you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I should have mentioned Patrick Rodgers and that kind of
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: list of guys who will be choking two. But worth
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: noting every single price range is covered this week, right,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: We've got Rogers at seventy two, Coodie at seventy four,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Boyguard at seventy five. There isn't a break in price
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: range where they're going to be choky guys like we
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: had last week, whereas but everyone from seventy eight to
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: ninety two was going to be pretty low ow and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: that certainly played out. So it's a lot harder to
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: find a contrarian construction this week. You actually have to
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: get contrarian by playing contrarian players.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Elaborate on that, because I think that's one of the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: things people. So let me ask you this way and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: then I'll let you. I want you to elaborate on that,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: but I also wanted to ask this, so it kind
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: of puts two together. Is like, is this a week
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: when the ownership can be bunched? Like it is that
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: it can just be some formulation of saying, Okay, I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: committed to these three to four guys that I like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: because I'm gonna you're It's not really like chalk. Something
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is eventually chalk. But it's like, this is where it
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: gets confusing for people because like, oh, he's eighteen percent,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: he's chok? Well is he? Or is it what's around him,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and you know, certain spots like the Girard one last
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: week can also work out. So I think that's all
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: what runs through people's mind. All to say, if you
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: really like three guys at fifteen to twenty percent, you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: can play them. It's just do you play six guys
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: at fifteen to twenty percent or do you look for
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: some of those lower owned guys below. So I'll let
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you elaborate on your point and then maybe just take
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: it a step further with just roster construction thoughts before
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: we get to how to leverage the chalk build with
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: those exact examples.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you looked at if you looked
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: at ownership last week, you saw like a bunch of chalk,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: was a bunch between let's say like ninety one and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: ten to one or whatever it was. Right, there were
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: there were four or five guys Henley Ben Griffin, guys
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: like that who are very clearly going to be very
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: chalky and were very clearly the start of one type
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: of lineup. And then you had obviously Scotty up top.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: And then as we mentioned, there was like a big
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: break in ownership between all of the all the eight
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: thousands maybe like N ninety one hundred whatever and then
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: seventy eight seventy nine hundred. So we knew we were
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: going to see a bunch of lineups that were Scottie
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: and then sixes and sevens. We knew we were going
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: to see a bunch of lineups that were two or
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: three nine K guys and then six and sevens. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: you could just say, Okay, I don't even need to
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: worry about like finding pivots off the chalk. I can
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: just go to a different style of lineup. I can
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: just go play my favorite eight K players. I don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: have to worry about their ownership. I can just go
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: play my favorites, knowing I'm in a contrariy enough construction
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: that I don't have to worry about, you know, differentiating
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: and finding my separators that way, because I'm already so
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: unique just in the construction my lineup this week. There
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: isn't a way you can do that. Every single price range,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: every single construction is going to have chalky options with
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: basically every single roster spot. So to get contrarian, you
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: actually have to think about, Okay, who are the pivots
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that are really like, who are the loan guys I like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: and not just I can go take my favorite player
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: from this range. Every single range is chopped that you
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: have to worry about and find pivots from.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And that's where I get that's exactly it. I think
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: that's people. So if you if someone really likes can't
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Ley and wants to start there, but then they classify
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: can't Lay as a fifteen percent on guy, It's like, yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: but there's twenty to twenty five percent on guys around him.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: He's already a unique starting point. So just that alone
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: already gives you some leeway to break it down from there.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So I think that's really important to remember if you're
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: already in on three nine K guys and you're like, ah,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: it sucks. I just watched Leverage Lane and they told
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: me people are actually gonna start with day Decky and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: got her up. We'll sit back and think for a second.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Your three guys are see wu Keegan Bradley and Harris English.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: You're playing it completely different. So it's like you could
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: actually go there and then get away with a lot
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: because now you're not using a ten K guy, not
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: using say three two to three of the highest owned
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: nine k guys, it doesn't mean you necessarily need to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: go completely off the board when you get to the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: sevens because you're already starting a different way and with
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: different options. Again, not who you play, how you play them.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: That's where the thought process comes together. So if you're
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: not just using an optimizer building, trusting the projections, ownership
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and the rules, et cetera that you're getting, then it
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: really does come down to like, if you know what
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: you like, especially for what we're talking about here with
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: like single entry typically handbuilding it out. Don't think you
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: have to go completely off the board just because I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: think what a lot of people do is they go, oh,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Heydecki's popular. I'll go to Keegan, oh mav mcneely's popular.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I'll go to I don't know, uh, Alex Norin, Oh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I go down the board again, Rasmus is popular. Let
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: me put in Penge or Rye who's right there. You know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: they just keep going to the one off pivot in
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: every single spot. When you can definitely get different by
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: construction like you said, or also with some of the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: plays within the construction that already allow you to then
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you can just tidy it up at the bottom because
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: you're already so different at the top or vice versa
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: of at the bottom versus the top. So that's just
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: another thing I'd want to look at. So moving on,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: how do you want to look to leverage the chalk
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: build this week? What's your your thought process from everything
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you just said, you can tie it back to that,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: but what's sort of your starting point or your first
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: guiding principle.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It's literally just looking for guys who I think are
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: under owned. So at the top, like we mentioned the
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: fact that I think Cam Young could end up steaming
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: like crazy, so very tentatively saying I think he's under
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: own because as of right now I've got him like
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: in the same range as Oberg and Kentland. I think
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Kim is clearly the better play of the three day
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: is going to be under own. Keegan Harris, English are
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: going to be under owned. I'm still hesitant on Zala Taurus,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: but I very much understand anyone who wants to take
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: a stab at him. We saw some signs last week,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: and when he's right, he's a very good fit for
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: this course because he can just ball strike it to death.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And then Wyndham Norrin Homa McCarty justin Rose, like, there
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: are just so many guys here this week that I
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: think fit the golf course well. They played difficult courses
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: well and and are very clearly going to be pretty
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: lowan because of how many popular guys are around them.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So it's just a week where I'm probably gonna have
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: six contrarian guys in my lineup and feel pretty good
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: about that because I don't think I'm losing much in
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: terms of like probability of success from my guys going
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: to these contrarian options, and obviously the chance for separation
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: just skyrockets when you are getting that type of play
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: at eight percent instead of eighteen percent. So definitely gonna
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: be a very contrarian line up for me this week.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got my lane. I'm gonna save it for later,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: so that's good. But I definitely I could go into
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: a whole rant on it right now, but I'm actually
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: gonna save it for the end because it's gonna be
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: my lane. And you kind of said some things there
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and it's all gonna tie together. But one thing that
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: somebody brought up is like, just played two six K guys.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: This is important to remember. It doesn't mean we'll be
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: right on this and look, there is I don't know
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: what they do such a poor job of this, by
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the way, when it's like the weeks like this where
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: they just jamm like ninety guys in the six k's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: last week was totally different. We said, like there was
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: tons of six K options. The challenge to it, is
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I brought up earlier, is if you get Scottie Wright,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: it's like, did you get There's because there was the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: fifty plus options from six five to seventy five hundred,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: let's just use that range. You're not always going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: land on them, even if you are being contrary and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: so on and so forth. But one thing I'll note
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: here is if the six K range is being ignored,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: but it's being ignored because it's pretty bad or not
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: even close to required, that while you'll be naturally contrarian,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: by playing two six K guys, you are almost bucketing
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: yourself into what I just talked about, which can be
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: bad because now you're saying like, well you will be unique, Well,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you will have the potential. If there's you know, unless
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: there's like two guys you have super high conviction on,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: then sure you'll already be different enough now you've kind
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of round it out. However, you want to be honest
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: from there, but it's saying if the reason the six
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: K is being ignored is because it's not needed and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: also is pretty bad, it's probably pretty bad as like
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that part matters more to me. So it's like, do
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I really need to go there? Or if it's only
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: really one guy we talked about earlier with pot Geiter, Okay,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be some good pot Getter lineups that you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: can build, But if it's just pot Guid, I'm going
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to I'm definitely not thinking about Xander because we talk
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: about all the time, the combination that you mentioned, how
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: many Pockeyer, how often do they get Xander with Pocketter
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: because the minute they go Poteider, they can fit Xander.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean it can't work. If it gets
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: there at the end in the finish line, that's what
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: you need it. So you need it, but we're just
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: noting it. Those are the types of things you should
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: be thinking about more than is pot Geiter a good
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: play or is Xander a good play? For where they
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: are on the board, they both look like amazing plays
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: once you put them together. It also allows you to
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: only have four spots remaining, and you can back yourself
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: into a corner pretty quickly. You could also find ways
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: around it up the middle. I'm just saying that's a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: note that I would make. So one thing for me
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: is I just think like the lower sevens and this
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: is not gonna be my lane. But the lower sevens
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: and upper sevens don't really have the ownership going to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: them as much. Like you said, Okay, if it's good,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I know it is, by the way, it's it's early,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: but you know it's gonna be Sam Stevens. He just
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: did a good job last week, so people just now
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: actually go why wouldn't they go to him? But like McCarty,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: if he's one third the ownership, I literally don't care
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: about anything else. I don't care who played what when where,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: don't all that. I would just look at it and say, okay,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I'd be interested. But there's other guys there too. I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: just noting it. I think from seventy seven to seventy eight,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: like that little range, and even seventy nine maybe Rasmus.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Like Rasmus would be a good example here because we'll
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: see how his number stays. But if everyone's gonna be
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: on if I think there's steam on Thor and Nikolai
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Hoguard down below, and I think people are definitely playing
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Sam Stevens, why not play Rasmus Hoguard, the brother who's
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: just as capable for three hundred bucks more and a
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars pivot point off Sam Stevens. Obviously you could
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: play a bunch of them together, but just little things
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: like that that I would look at. That to me
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: just make tons of sense. People are gonna talk about Rasmus.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if they can click him as
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: much as they click Sam Stevens, Thor, Nikolai Coody, all
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: those guys down below. So that'd be my first thought
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: is upper sevens, lower sevens versus the middle.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Are you surprised that I am that it doesn't look
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: like McCarty's gonna get much love this week? Because played
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: well in the summer, played very well in the fall,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: was awesome last week, especially with his irons. Why is
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: he not getting more lovey?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's a product of the spot on the board.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Like we've talked about this a ton in the past,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: but you know, from last week alone, should be fine.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: But I think, like when you see the board again
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and this could be one of those flips that we see,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: we'll have to keep an eye on this stuff. So so
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I don't envy anyone doing ownership this week, but from projections,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see Rasmus Stevens, higgo thor Hoguard all that
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: stuff just beats him. So it's like, well, then how
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: can people land there at seventie and they've paid more
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: for it? They paid less for him last week, so
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, he went up in price too. So
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. For me, it's just the way it
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: looks right now. But it's hard to say exactly who's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: gonna steam and moon walk in this range between all
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of those guys I just mentioned.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very much agree And yeah, so I think it's
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: it's says that this is a really fun week because
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: like we I think we just have full sns to
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: be super contrarian, because we're gonna get very good players
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: in good spots here at low ownership just because of
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: simply how many guys are. It's it's an awesome field
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: and it should just be a lot of fun this
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: week and hopefully hope, you know, we always say that,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and it's like there's still a chance that our line
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: up this poorly, and when our line up is poorly,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it's not as fun. But but what I mean is
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: it sets up as a week where I think we
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: can very confidently get a pretty strong edge this week
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: and the golf should be of pretty high quality, So
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: funnel around in that way.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a good event no
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: matter what. Like that's that's the whole point, because you
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: have such a good field, you have the great course,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you know, courses to start and the course over the weekend,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: like just it's always a really good event and this
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: one's loaded up, I will say, Like that's another thing
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: too though. So you you just brought up a point
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: there that I was gonna just elaborate on. Was the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: when you don't know until you know, like you kind
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: of the point what we talked about with like, Okay,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: is it gonna be McCarty actually staying low versus Sam Stevens.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: It really does feel like that right now, and that's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: why And obviously Sam, see there's a lot of overreaction
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: to the week before, and sometimes it's different courses, it's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: different things trying to make this evergreen. Sometimes it's about
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: course history in the past. Sometimes it's about the weather
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: or whatever it might be. Like, sometimes there's an overreaction
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to certain things. And I know, like you guys have
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: all your tools with our tool that we have the stone.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna bring this up for two seconds because
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: this is not on here now, but one of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: columns we add if anybody hasn't seen it this for
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: this week, it's just a rough draft. You're not getting
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: too much out of it, but you'll see it's the names,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: the ownership, the projections. There a round one and round
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: two t time the wave that they're in. I think
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I had the old version up. The updated version has
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: the course rotation right on there, so if you're looking
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: at that. But one of the things that we add
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: when we get out of the rough draft, Alex is
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the like the optimal percentage. I know you guys want
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: to tell stuff like this as well. Over at FTN
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: for the sims and being able to see sort of
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: how things shape up, we add a column that is
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: like optimal and then you're looking at it versus the ownership,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: and you end up seeing it in some cases where
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: like Sam Stevens might be twelve percent of the time
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to be optimal, and then he's coming in at like
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: twenty percent ownership. Can that beat you? Still? Yes, it can.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I mean that obviously he can get there. It's golf.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: But I think just some of that stuff, a lot
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: of the overreaction, especially earlier in the season that adds
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: to guys quote unquote like over owned if you will,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: is because of just the recent form. Right, it's like,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: what do they do last week? Got to be the
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: same this week? It's it's it's sometimes the same way
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: in football, you see and oh, well last week a
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: team passed all over this team. Well it's a different steam,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: it's a different setup, it's a different thing, there's a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: different slate. There's so many different factors that I don't
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: think people spend enough time looking at that. And that's
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: where the game can be sort of. That's where the
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: edge can be found. It doesn't mean you'll land on it,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: but if you go in approaching it the way we do,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and we're talking about as a puzzle and finding our
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: angle in our lane, that's where I think it's just
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: you can get different naturally. In some cases, do you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: have anything extra to add, just on sort of looking
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: at the contest sims and applying it here. I know
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: you do a ton of stuff with that in your
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: discord as well.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna touch on on some similar stuff in my lane,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: so I'll leave it there.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: All right. Anything else you want to talk about when
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: it comes to the board, and just like some of
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: the pivot options and going through it, like do you
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: want to do the ranges quick or do you want
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: to go? Where do you want to go from here?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty much ready to move to the
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: betting stuff if you are, there's I don't think there's
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: a ton to add. I think we've already touched on
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys. I know we're both gonna touch
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: on more in our lanes, and I think we've done
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: a pretty good job of kind of laying out what
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: the challenge of this late is and how to attack it.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's good. I just don't know if you
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: had any other like pivot places when you want talk about,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: because I can tell you right now my lane is
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: not going to be any golfer specifically. It's it's gonna
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: be a lane that I'm playing this week in single
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: entry do you do you have any anything else you
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: want to add for those guys. If not, I mean
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: it'll come up right now and we're gonna talk to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: one and done and the betting breakdown. Anyway, maybe let's
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: start with the betting breakdown and go through that, and
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: if there's something that sort of gleams out of that,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to just elaborate from there.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a couple more guys, but I'll be
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: able to incorporate them into my line. My line is
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: going to be very similar to yours in the sense
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: that it's it's going to be more of a concept
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: than specific players, but I'll mention some players there. So yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: ass the As far as the betting goes this week,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I will say I'm pretty disappointed in the underdog products
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: so far this season for PGA, where we're not seeing
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: anywhere near as many options as we've seen in previous seasons. Now,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: last year we had a very similar start to the season.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It was like once NFL ended, even though there's there's
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: no NFL competition this week, once the NFL season ended,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: we started to see some better options. We saw more
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: tournament finishing position options. We saw like front nine score
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: back nine score. We saw you know, score on the
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: thirteenth or fourteenth holes or the sixteenth hole, things of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: that nature which were really really fun. And particularly when
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: you're watching like wind direction and things like that, you
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: can find some serious edges. As at this point we
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: don't have many. I don't want to course anything by saying, hey,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I like this for un draw this week when I
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: really don't. Chances are I'm not gonna have any underdog
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: plays at least going into this week. We'll see if
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: they add throughout the week, but it is I think
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: a very good week for outrights. I've got three. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: think my favorite one is probably man. I think it's
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Justin Rose. Justin Rose at fifty five to one, sixty
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: to one, somewhere in that range within each way. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: you guys are gonna hear me talk about this kind
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: of all season. I mentioned in a bunch last week.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: But personally, I think that when we think about what
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: makes a guy a good outright bet, there are obviously
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: two factors at hand. There's how good is this player?
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: How well does he project this week? But then there's
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: also how volatile is this player when he plays his
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: you know, ninetieth percentile game is ninety fifth percentile game.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Does he how would it takes to actually win that
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: event or does he need the ninety ninth percentile outcome?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: And one of the ways that we measure that is
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: at FtM we do a lot of predictive analysis addicting
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: players event to event standard deviation, and Rose at one
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: point four to two strokes game per round is actually
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: the highest in this field. When he's got it, he's
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: got it, his ball striking is there, he's driving it well,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: and then he can really take advantage of the fact
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: that when he's on he's one of, if not the
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: best putters in the world. He's not as consistent as
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: some of the other best putters in the world, like
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Danny McCarthy or Sam Burns, but when he's making putts, man,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: he makes them from everywhere. And when you pair that
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: with him actually driving the ball well, which he did
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: quite a bit towards the end of last season, it
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: can really be explosive. We saw him go nine under
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: in the second round this past week, so we know
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: when he's capable of when he's playing really well, and
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: we've done him at two point eight percent to win
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: largely because of how volatilely is. He's you know, projection wise,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: he's ride in line with a guy like Sam Stevens
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: that we have literally at one point four percent, so
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: only half as likely to win as justin Rose, even
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: though they are projected for pretty much the same median outcome.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It shows just how powerful these volatility estimates are. And
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: that's why I think at fifty five or sixty or one, whatever,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: the best numbers that you can get on him, now,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: he's a really good value for that outright, at two
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: point eight percent to win, I.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Like, get yeah, And I think we can tie that
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: into sort of the one and done segment too, Like,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, you did a really job last week of
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: talking about it from a perspective, so we'll go back
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: to it. But like the Fowlers the Sea wu Kims,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: it's not even about just the result. It was more
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: to me the concepts and the game theory and the
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: thought process going in on why those guys versus you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: some of the others, Like I mean, someone got Scotty
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Schefferer last week. Congrats to you, probably not a worse way.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, everyone will will hate on this. What do
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you mean you gotta win like he's Scotty Chef. He's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: by the way, and if there wasn't any doubt in
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: the room around this offf nothing to do with the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: DFS side of it, but like, if Scotty's doing that there,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: his full advantage is on a four day tournament where
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: it's like the field just can't do that kind of stuff.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: If he's winning by four and five stro like what
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: do you make a bogie or a double near the
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: end or something like that that he could have been
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: It could have been even better if he's sort of
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: embarrassing that type of field where everybody can go low
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and they were sort of keeping pace for a little
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: while and do that there, then it's it's pretty crazy
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: what he should be able to do. As it carries
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: on and nothing has really affected this guy, Like realistically,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: if you look, his mental game has only got stronger
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: and better. If you remember back in the day of
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the stuff with the Ted Scott even saying
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to be on his bag if
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be like that, he was definitely more of
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: a maniac for for Scott. He for Scotty. People that
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: don't follow it heavily and probably what Scott, he's the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: nicest guy, like, goes to church all that he was
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: a bit more of a hothead back then. There was
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: even conversations around him and his caddy and stuff that way,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: just on the side note. And then he's got you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: his wife. His life is balanced the kid now like
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: every like he's everything has happened, that's gonna it can
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: kind of happen. He canna have another kid and probably will,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't doesn't seem to phase him in any
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: way shape or for him. He's not gonna put on
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: thirty pounds or lose thirty pounds and affect his swing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Like everything is completely dialed for Scotty. And that's one
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: of the big things that I think just people need
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: to remember. So from a one and done perspective, you
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: can probably apply a lot of the same thoughts. Would
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: you have different thoughts here that you'd be thinking of,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: or anything else extra you could bring to ad No.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I saw someone say that at this rate, Ted Scott's
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to use the same all time moneyless
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: exemption that VJ. Singh used. So you see its actual
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: events that you made me laugh, But yeah, I agree.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I think an important point to recognize or look back
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: on this past week. There wasn't a single guy that
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: you could have used in the one and done that
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: you are going to want to use at some other
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: point this year that you would feel glad that you
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: had just used because Scotty won. We know, we don't want.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: We know, like, even if you had Scotty last week
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: wasn't good because he's almost certainly going to win or
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: at least make more than that in one of the
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: signature events or major championships moving forward. So you're better
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: off without Scotty. And a second place finish outside of
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: a signature event is like a fifth or a sixth
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: place finish in one of the signature events. So you
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: got to feel like you can find, you know, a
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: sixth or a fourth or third, let alone, to win
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: in the signature and from anyone else that you would
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: have wanted at some other point this season. So yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: it's it's really tough when it's set up like that,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: but I think we kind of nailed the setup there
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: where the fact that Scotty was playing just made it
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: really really difficult to take anyone of any real value.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I think we can use some better players this week,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: but there, man, there are also a lot of guys
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: in this field that like there's a very good chance
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: that they're going to either be one of your preferred
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: targets as as a loaned option in the signature event
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: later this season, or they're going to find themselves as
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: you know, one of the like three or five very
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: clearly best players in a weaker field that's not a
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: signature event like the you know, the three M Open
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: or at Detroit something like that, where you're just going
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: to wish that you had saved them. So it's another
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: tough week where like we're in the third week of
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: one and done, and I still kind of feel like
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you don't want to burn anyone of great value now.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Pat has made the really good point like you only
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: get to use what is it, thirty one golfers this season,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: so like you don't need to ever use the fiftieth
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: best guy or the fortieth best guy. But it's also
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: still worth noting, like, you know, I don't don't I
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: don't want to use somebody that I'm really going to
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: regret to have used two months from now. So I
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: do have some names kind of as as guys that
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested in, and part of that is guys
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: who play really well on difficult courses, because when they
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: are the three or five best players in a field
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: later on the season, chances are they're playing an easier
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: golf course. So guys like Harris English, Alex Norrin, those
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: are the first that come to my mind.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll add one just because right, wrong or indifferent,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: it's just how I feel about it. But I might
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: try and just catch the Wills Alataurres train right now.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Like he's he's had a decent week last week. He's
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: got to get I think he needs the top ten
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: two again. I'm the one that always fights again this
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: that's not why I'm I'm just noting. The guy literally
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: feels like he could get injured again at any time.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Let's try and catch him on the up and up.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wait around and save will Zalaturus. Like
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: he said, you only need X amount of golfers for
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the season, depending on the pool that you're in, thirty
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: thirty seven, thirty four, whatever one you joined. It's like
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna need fifty golfers. So I think he'd
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: be someone interesting the chat was talking about like the
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Mcneely's the Naps. It's probably like that might be more
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: of the Alex side of things, where it's like you said,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: those guys could actually pop up, and I feel like
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: McNeely feels like he could definitely get a field where
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: he's like the third best golfer my odds or something
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: like that. And it's like, I don't know that I
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: would do that here, but you'll definitely get him lower
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: owned here because of that. If that's how you're feeling,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: and I don't, you're not saving him in my opinion,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: for like a signature event or something obviously, So to
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: me it's like, yeah, I get that side of it, Nap.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I guess what about going right back to got her
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: up after he already got the I mean, oh, he
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: can't win twice maybe, but people said that about got
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: her up. What wasn't it got her up when he
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: won the Scottish Open and then the next week came
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: third or something. It's like the or vice versa, one
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: of the two. It definitely could do something like that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gonna be popular. I don't think
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: he's a good play And the reason is your ceiling
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: if you use him this week is that he does
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: as well as the guys who have already used him
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: in one. I think you want to use him when
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: there's a chance that he actually outperforms those guys who
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: are are now ahead of you who got him for
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: that win. So I will not be using water Up
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: this week. And part of that too, by the way,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: is like there's a chance that he's already one of
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: the ten best players in the world now and that
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: we really really really are gonna want him for one
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: of the signature events or one of the majors, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: we're gonna really regret to have burned him on a
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: lesser perse event. So I feel pretty strongly about now
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: using god her up this week. But yeah, you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: and so like the I love this al Torus call
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: because like Nor and in English, he's one of those
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: guys who we now have a pretty long track record
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: of he's gonna spike more often on difficult courses, which
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: makes the fact that it just spiked on really easy
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: just like even more impressive and even more of an
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: encouraging sign. So yeah, I think the z Alatur's call
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Nor in English, that type of players is who I'm
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: really going for, and the type of player that I
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: don't want is like still like a Windhom Clark type
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: guy who if he plays really well this week, if
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: he if he shows that he's back to the really
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: good version of Wyndham Clark, then again we're gonna want
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: him in the signature event, not one of these fields.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: So that's that's just the way that I'm continuing to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: kind of look at this. Honestly, the same applies to
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Brooks Kopka, right Like, if if Brooks wins this week,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: if he's Brooks all the time and not just in
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: major championships now, then we're gonna want him in one
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: of those bigger events. So it's it's less exciting to
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: think of it this way because we're, like I said,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: we're in the third week and we're still saying, don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: use guys that you're super excited about their chance to
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: go win the tournament this week. But I think you will.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: You will thank yourself if you approach it this way
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: once again this week once we get to those bigger events,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: both in terms of the you know, the majors and
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: the signature events for the person's hype, but then also
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: later in the season when you know you're at Craig
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Ranch or Detroit or one of those events, and like
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: there are three good players in the entire field. It's Nap,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: it's McNeely and those guys, and it's like, oh, now
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I can use them when they don't have to beat
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Xander Ober can't Ley camyon day Sea Whu Spawn all
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: of these guys they just have to beat each other,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna just gonna be a lot happier that way.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't find. If I could find, i'd just
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: read it verbatim. I wish I could, but crazy like yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: like it's everyone thinks you need. Yeah, it'd be nice
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: to get a winner every week, of course, that'd be amazing.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: But it was like I was brought up from like
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: the big splash one last year. I think the winner
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: ended up having six wins on the season, which obviously
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: is insane, but the people don't recognize how important it is.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: But like people are acting like you can pick it
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: up here and there, you're your point on the gotter
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Up one. It's like you want you want to pick
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: up goddr Up when he's not popular. Can beat the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: ceiling of those that had him at the number and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: he really could be that good, like like we saw,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: and it could be in an event where he's the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: twentieth highest stone in one and done because everyone's on
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: the Xanders, the Obergs, the et cetera, the et cetera,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like there's no way god Arc could come
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: out and win it. And then he does, or he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: scores bigger money for second place then at a signature
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: or something. Then it would be if he was to
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: win the event early on in the season and it's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: at two percent or one percent ownership or something. So
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: love that call out as well. Think that's really solid.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Let's go to our lane. I'm gonna before we do that.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Before we do that, we should we should pick which
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: of which of the three guys we kind of narrowed
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: it down to for our for our joint entry.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm high on Zal so that would be my thought.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: But if you have something different on that, I just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: like I said for me, it does he continue what
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: he did from last week? I don't know, but if he,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: if he can or does, I think it's fine and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I like, I like that option. I'm not actually super
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: high on him. Overall. Just to me, it was for
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: for one and done. My thought process is like I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: do want to use him. I don't haven't seen much,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: but I saw off last week. If you can continue
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: that to this week, if you can play it out
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and then I always worry about the guy like he is.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: You know, he's had injury issues. It is what it is,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: call like you see it. It's like I'm never counting
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: for that. It's like we don't play for backup running
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: backs in football because like, oh what if there's an injury.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: It's not that, it's just Golf's a little bit different
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: and he has been a bit fickle that way. So
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: talking about man, Alex Blickell play the man that's fickle.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Willie Zlatoris, Let's let's go with it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I'm good with Slatoris. We can
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: go there. I I really think like the three best
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: options are pretty clear to me that it's nor in
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: English Elatoris because I'm with you on Zelators, like, I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: don't think I'm gonna want him at another point this season.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I'm very confident I'm not gonna want Nora or English
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: at another point this season because they they are both
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: like lower that they're not low volatility guys, but they
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: they play a lot better on difficult golf courses because
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: they have a very extreme set, which is avoiding bogies
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: much more so than they're good at making birdies on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: an easier courses. So they're always gonna have a better
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: chance of separating on these really difficult golf courses. We
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: don't see those very often in in weaker fields, so
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: you just like, they're not the kind of player that
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna want later on the season.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: And Dala Tors fits the same box, if you will,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: as those guys. So I like all three of them,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm I'll probably you know, I've got three entries
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: and one of them is our joint entry now, so
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I'll probably just do one of each and and make
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: the Zalad Tors want our joint entry.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: That's perfect. I think pretty solid last week. Like I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: said again, those are like the other things too. You
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: got to pick up those top tens, top twenty scores,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: and any type of event those add up those that's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: where the money just comes from. You need the winners.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: So it's like when you get your five to six winners,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: if you can pick up ten top twenties and you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: know five top tens and all that that's where it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: can really start racking up to give yourself an opportunity.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: But you need those wins and you go and you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: want to have them, no secret here, but you want
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: to have them on the big weeks. You want those
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: signature events and those major wins. So perfect. Yeah, love
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: that call. Let's go with Zal. As far as my
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: lane goes, I said, I would say it to the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: end because it's more of a concept than that. But
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear to me this week and again,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I'll play both of these. I'll also play uh, you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: more options and stuff. But for my single entry, what
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: you will see when it finalizes out is I'm going
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: to play six guys that go north south. And the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: reason I'm doing that is I don't think there's much
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: weather on the south, you know, for the week. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: mean like so it's like usually you're like, oh, play
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the harder course on the harder day and all that stuff,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, you want or the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: harder course on the easier day, so it doesn't affect it.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I kind of want guys that can score early on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: the north, do well on day two, and then ride
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: that momentum into the back to back rounds they have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: to play on the weekend. The other thing about that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: is this is a concept piece that people don't talk
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: about enough, I think. But just of note is if
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: you look at it, going back to do sorry man here,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: just going back to the stoneber a second south south
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: south south south south south, like all the guys at
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: the top. So one thing is it doesn't mean it's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: good bad at the ugly. It's just noting that when
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you are using the one way to naturally get different
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: when you already have bunched up ownership. This goes back
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: to the other side of it. When you have naturally
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: bunched up ownership, you also have pretty bunched up win equity.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: It's not like a Scottie week where we have you know,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Xander might be five percent up top or something like that.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be like thirty five percent or whatever
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Scotty was coming in at last week. So that's fine too.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But when I see the bunched up ownership, I know
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: that a lot of it is just gonna naturally land
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: with one to two guys on the opposite course. They
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: can easily still get there, but a way just to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: get naturally different while still playing good options across the board.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Even if they end up all being ten percent owned,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: they could all be ten percent. I'm gonna have a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: sixty percent combined ownership and they're all just equally at
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: ten percent. Could happen. I'm just saying if that was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: to happen, not many people are gonna have that setup
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: or combination across the board because it's basically a it's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a it's a correlated lineup right based in golf, based
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: on the starting course that they're on, but you're still
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: using different pieces than in different combinations than what we
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: talked about before, Like a Patrick Rodgers, I don't even
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: know what course he starts on, But just an example
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: is if people are playing Patrick Rodgers and then going
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: to Xander in most cases, or pot Geider and then
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: going to Xander, I would also kind of want to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: flip that too. If you're playing a south course lineup,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: maybe I'd want to have those guys but then have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: the rest all be on the South just to get
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: me naturally different from that perspective. So from a concept perspective.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make it easier. It's not about their mindset
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: or in that. That's just it could happen, and I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: would want that, but it is going to get me
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: a different lineup as a whole. And so that's kind
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: of how I'm looking at it for this week. What's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: your thoughts and where are you going with yours?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no issue with that whatsoever. Mine is going to be.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that like, I'm almost certainly going to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: use a lineup where I have six conturing guys. This week,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: maybe I'll be five conturing guys, but I want to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: be a little bit more specific than that with my lane.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: And so what I'm going to say is I'm going
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: to try to avoid a lot of the seven K range,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: and I'll just give kind of like a quick explanation
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: for why this is. Let's say that I really liked
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Brooks kept I'm just gonna use Kopka as an example
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: here if I want to if I want to be
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: right about Kepka, I can't just be right that Kepka
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: plays well. I also have to be right that all
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: the chalk around him doesn't play better than he plays.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: So I have to write about Jake Knapp underperforming and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Rasmus Hoygard underperforming and Sam Stevens thorpe Bjornson, Hgo Hoyguard
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: and Piercing Cootie all underperforming. Right, It's it's a very long,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: extensive bet to say that brooks Kepka is the best
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: play in that range if I'm just using brooks Keppa
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: from the range. Whereas if I go down and I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: play a Matt Wallace or Johnny Keefer or yes, Bris Benson,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: who's a real he's gonna be like one percent or
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: less than I think is actually a really good course fit,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: then I don't necessarily need them to beat all those guys,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: because I can run into the situation where I have
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: a combination like two or three guys up top that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: do really well and could not possibly be combined with
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: that upper seven or low eight K range. I had
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: to go cheaper with that with that remaining spot. So
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try to build some lineups that take
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: advantage of that, that lower the number of guys that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I need to be right about for the lineup as
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: a whole to really succeed. So kind of avoiding the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: super super chalky condensed ranges that are just so diluted
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: with popular players that it's going to be hard to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: get the absolute best play from that region, and maybe
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: you just skip that as a whole and find a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: different construction that way.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's gonna be the key to you.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: You know. The other thing is too for me, just
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: noting that Cam Jung up to Zander are all starting
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: on the south, so I know I can tell you
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: that's the next part too, is like it doesn't naturally
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: just mean I go to Jason Day to start my lineup.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's another big mistake people make, where like, oh,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: pretty easy, Tam, what just told me he's going to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: do this and then do this? But because he's not
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: playing those four, he must be playing Jason Day. It's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: not even close. So it's little things. Doesn't mean you're
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: not gonna start there. But saying that outside it couldn't be
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: a lineup with him, there can be. I'm saying for
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: what I'm explaining, that's not what it means, Like, that's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: not the concept here at all. It's saying whereas most
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: people will land out. So now, for example, I don't
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: love necessarily Patrick Rogers at high ownership this week, but
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: he starts on the north course. So many Patrick how many?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: How many times? Is Patrick Rogers not gonna be with
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask it a different way at least one
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: of Xander Ludwig can't lay Young Sea wou spawn English
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: like all those guys can fit into it and automatically
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: changes the game for what my lineup sets up like
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: so that whereas I can get around it. And that's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: where a gatting not who you play, it's how you
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: play them. That can be a way that you get
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: around it as well. So I like that. Keep an
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: eye on the weather. That's gonna be part of it
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: as well. Some of the tea times, later tea times,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the heat, the actual you know temperature that it is outside,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: all the type stuff matters. Showdown really good week for Showdown.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: We're obviously targeting the north. Not many will go the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: other way. If you want to try and pick a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: diamond in the rough on the south, go for it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: But like just you can kind of avoid that, get
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: around it the other way and get different there too.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a good week for Showdown. I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: think it's a really good slate overall. I think it's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: an excellent event. Barnon, you know nothing else, even got
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: nothing else going on on Sunday, you'll have your Round
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: four stuff. There is no football this week. It's gonna
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: be a great event to watch, I believe, so any
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: final thoughts from you, Alex. If not, you can let
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the people know where they can find you. Anything else
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you want to touch on before we get out of here.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll touch on one more thing. And since people
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: enjoyed like the little bit of a mathematical breakdown last
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: week on Scott, I'll give one more this week. I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: probably won't be able to do this thing, this sort
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: of thing every single week, but if the people continue
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: to like it, I'll keep providing it. It's a bit
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: of a window into just kind of the logic behind
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: saying I'm going to have like a fully contrarian lineup
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: this week. Let's take someone like Patrick Rogers seventy two
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars even for us, he projects really well. He's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: one of the best projected values in that low seven
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars range. Let's look at his top five top
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: ten in miss cutoffs. He's a six percent chance in
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: our simulations for a top five twelve percent chance of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: a top ten and a thirty five percent chance of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: a miscut if you want him to like really help
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: you get a takedown, not just be a solid play,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: but like be the guy that you need. In that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: price range, you're probably gonna need a top ten finish.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: So twelve percent chance of really helping you get a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: take down, thirty five percent chance of a miscut. Literally
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: about three times more likely to fail as chalk than
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: he is to help you get a takedown. That's the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: sort of thing we see in PGADFS. It's different than
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: like when Christian McCaffrey is super popular or Chris Sale
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: is super popular as a pitcher, where there a odds
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: of success clearly are higher than their odds of failure.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: With PGA guys, especially as you go down the board,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: like basically anyone other than Rory or Scottie, you're always
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: going to see this that they're actually more likely to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: fail than they are to really help you get a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: take down because how many guys are in the field.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: So it just makes more sense in PGADFS than in
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: other sports to have fully contrarian in lineups. And it's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: also then confounded by the fact that you only have
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: to be right about six guys instead of nine in PGADFS.
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  Speaker 3: So I think anyone moving from nfl dfest to PGADFS,
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  Speaker 3: when you're so accustomed to feeling like okay, I need
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  Speaker 3: to have at least one or two or three like
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  Speaker 3: super chalky pieces. Otherwise I'm just gonna get beaten by
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  Speaker 3: all the chalk. It's not quick the same in PGADFS,
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  Speaker 3: you can be more aggressive and you can be a
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  Speaker 3: lot of successful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you too. I want to
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  Speaker 2: do a leave a comment contest moving forward like give away.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give away a free week to PGADFS over at
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  Speaker 2: triper Nation. We can we can park that into it
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  Speaker 2: or something, just because obviously if you guys are watching this,
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  Speaker 2: we appreciate it. What what can the what do you
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  Speaker 2: think the comment should be? Do you do you want
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  Speaker 2: to be the winner? Do you want it to be
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  Speaker 2: the you know what your lane is? I want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure you do hit the thumbs up. I did
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  Speaker 2: realize this too, By the way, if you're on a
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, I think Alex, you know, and you have
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  Speaker 2: an Android, I do maybe my only friend that I
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  Speaker 2: can make fun of here that that has an Android
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  Speaker 2: because I turned everyone else over to the other side.
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  Speaker 2: But it has read receipts, now and stuff, so it
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  Speaker 2: makes it a little bit easier. But just noting it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're on that the chat that pops up. I've
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  Speaker 2: realized this too, Like if people hit the heart button
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  Speaker 2: we're watching it live right now anyway, so you can't
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  Speaker 2: miss out on this. But we'll do a week per week.
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  Speaker 2: I'll start to add this in so I give away
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  Speaker 2: a free week. What do you want people to leave
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  Speaker 2: a comment about? Though I meant to ask you this before
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  Speaker 2: the show, but I was coming in hot today.
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  Speaker 3: I think we should do like best strategy question and
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  Speaker 3: then we'll pick the winner by actually answering the question
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  Speaker 3: the next week, so it can be just like a
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  Speaker 3: general DAFA strategy, or it could be like, hey, I
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  Speaker 3: felt this way about using Scotty this week. Here's why
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  Speaker 3: I felt that way. Do you agree? Or something like that? Right, So,
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  Speaker 3: anything of that of that nature, because that's that's the
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  Speaker 3: type of thing that we're trying to do with the show.
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  Speaker 2: Anymore thought provoking question or comment. If it's like I like,
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  Speaker 2: if it was your thought process that you want to
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  Speaker 2: lay out. And I'm not saying you got to write
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  Speaker 2: a novel, I'm certainly not expecting that or wanting that.
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  Speaker 2: I just I do like that call up because one
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  Speaker 2: of the things about the comments, I like to go
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  Speaker 2: back and try and answer them or respond to them
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  Speaker 2: or help people as much as I can, but can't
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  Speaker 2: do it all. So if you and I can sort
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  Speaker 2: of pinpoint one and say, wow, what is this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's actually talk about this on the next one, we're
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  Speaker 2: able just to bring that right up on the next event.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that. Another thing too. Got to
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