Latest / True Crime California / TCC #27: The Greystone Mansion Murders
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Dark Cast Network. Out of the shadows come the best
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- 0:59Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome to True Crime California. I'm your host, Cindy,
- 1:05and I'm glad you're here. Hey, guys, Welcome back to
- 1:17True Crime California. The plight of the indie podcaster is
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- 1:23that's where we're at right now. So if this sounds bad,
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- 1:30sound like him in a hallway, which is interesting because
- 1:33it's the same mic and the same program I've always used,
- 1:36and suddenly today this is how it sounds. So let's
- 1:38hope we can get this sounding better. Maybe the next
- 1:41time I record it will be different. Who can say,
- 1:44how's that for an intro? Everybody, Welcome back to the show.
- 1:48I'm so happy to be here, and thank you all
- 1:50for being here with me. It's my birthday tomorrow, and
- 1:54I decided that for my second case of January, I
- 1:57was going to do something that I actually find really interesting. Now,
- 2:00as many of you have probably noticed, I mean, I've
- 2:02done a couple like old school cases, I guess, but
- 2:05mostly I stick to like nineteen seventies and earlier. This
- 2:09is definitely an old school case, but in my mind
- 2:11it's sort of like a special circumstance because it is
- 2:17it's a location the murder, where the murders happened is
- 2:19actually somewhere that I work, like fairly regularly for catering
- 2:22because it is now a wedding venue, which is super ironic.
- 2:27As usual, I'm just kind of starting with a stream
- 2:29of consciousness and all will come to light soon. So
- 2:32what I'm talking about is gray Stone Mansion. That's the
- 2:36case I'm going to cover today, and This is sort
- 2:38of a history lesson about la early US politics, and
- 2:42then of course murder. So if you're into any of
- 2:44those things or all of them, as I am, you're
- 2:46probably gonna enjoy this. Before I get started, I just
- 2:49want to address a few things. First of all, somebody
- 2:51gave me a bad review because I swear too much,
- 2:53to which I say, I've spoken this way since I
- 2:55was like ten years old, which is kind of insane,
- 2:57and I'm forty three tomorrow, so it's not going to change.
- 3:00If you don't like it, don't listen. But going around
- 3:02leaving negative reviews on indie podcasts is like very shitty energy,
- 3:08like the type of people who actually take their time
- 3:10to tear down small independent podcasters or small independent businesses
- 3:14unless they're doing something super egregious. Get a fucking life, Okay,
- 3:19Like that's ridiculous. Second, here's something that will probably get
- 3:23me more bad reviews. Fuck Ice, Fuck this fucking fascist dictatorship,
- 3:29bullshit country that we live in. I want to tear
- 3:32all my hair out, just straight up. This is the
- 3:33worst situation, and fuck it. I've always been like a
- 3:38radical leftist, which basically just means I care about people,
- 3:41which is like an insane, apparently thing to feel in
- 3:45this day and age. But I hope you all join
- 3:48me in caring about others and in caring about our world,
- 3:51and in standing up to fascism, even though it is
- 3:53extremely dangerous and very very scary to do so. Right
- 3:56now anyway, Okay, let's get into the case. All right,
- 4:00onto the case. But I do want to call out
- 4:02that the politics of this case are definitely not something
- 4:05that happened in a vacuum. And I would wager that
- 4:08the way that this was handled and the way that
- 4:10this kind of went down is very telling for how
- 4:13our future unfolded. Like when you hear this case and
- 4:15how everything kind of ended, you're like, oh, yeah, that
- 4:17makes sense for where the fuck we're at right now. Anyway. So,
- 4:20like I said, this is the case of the Greystone Mansion. Now,
- 4:23for those of you who don't know, the Greystone Mansion
- 4:26is a huge Tudor style mansion built in the late
- 4:29nineteen twenties in what is now Beverly Hills. Tudor basically
- 4:33means like castle like, so a lot of stone, very
- 4:36old school, sort of like a precursor of Gothic style.
- 4:39So there's a lot of pointy stuff going on, you know,
- 4:41pointed rooftops, almost like a jagged, very like masculine look
- 4:45to it. I could get more specific, but I think
- 4:48we're all on the same page. Giant stone castle style house, right.
- 4:51The house itself is forty six thousand square feet and
- 4:56at the time it was built, it was the second
- 4:58largest house I guess gonna call it in California. It
- 5:02was second only, of course to Hurst Castle up in
- 5:05San Simeon near San Luis Obispo, which was built by
- 5:08the publishing tycoon and all around horrible person, William Randolph
- 5:12Hurst now Graystone. Sat on over four hundred acres, which
- 5:16if you know anything about la and like especially that area,
- 5:19you know, that's an insane amount of land to have,
- 5:22as the entire area at this point is completely developed.
- 5:26So this was like way back in the twenties. Nothing
- 5:29was developed. There was just open land, and the owners
- 5:32of this home were just buying it up left, right
- 5:35and center. At the time, the family who built this
- 5:39mansion were one of the richest families in the world,
- 5:45and it was none other than the Dohiny family, which was,
- 5:49like I said, one of the richest and most powerful families.
- 5:52I said in the country, but I think it is
- 5:53actually in the world. The patriarch, sorry, the patriarch of
- 5:56the family. Edward L. Do'heeny was an oil tycoon who
- 6:00was actually the first person to drill for oil in
- 6:03Los Angeles, which set off the oil boom in the
- 6:05late nineteen eighties and early nineteen hundreds. Now, he also
- 6:09drilled in Mexico and Venezuela, if that's ringing any bells currently,
- 6:14and eventually founded the Pan American Petroleum and Transport Company
- 6:17in nineteen sixteen. This company later became one of the
- 6:21largest oil companies in the world in the nineteen twenties,
- 6:24with Edward cashing in on World War One's need for
- 6:28petroleum for the war, which also plays into later on
- 6:32because during World War One, private interests had all of
- 6:35the oil and they were selling it to the government
- 6:37at a premium price. And let's just say, like, this
- 6:42is why it's important to know your history, because when
- 6:44you look at things like Venezuela and what's going on
- 6:46there and sort of just our country as a whole,
- 6:49when you hear about the way things came to be
- 6:51from the past, it really helps inform you as to
- 6:53how evil shit has been forever and why we're fucked now. Anyway,
- 6:58let's get back to it. Actually came from modest beginnings,
- 7:02with his family not having really any connections. And this
- 7:05is a real story of a person who made their
- 7:06money from nothing. Now that being said, he did so
- 7:09through various unscrupulous means, to be sure, and that's actually
- 7:13at the center of this whole thing. You know, drill
- 7:15for oil in Mexico as an American without pulling some strings,
- 7:18greasing some palms, et cetera. Edward married once, but his
- 7:23first wife committed suicide after they divorced in eighteen ninety nine.
- 7:26We'll talk about that a little bit more too. This
- 7:29was after the couple had two children, a daughter who
- 7:31was born very sickly and died of heart related issues
- 7:34at only seven years old, and a son, Edward Junior,
- 7:38who went by ned and was born in nineteen eighty three. Now,
- 7:42those of us who are familiar with la we all
- 7:44know the Doheny name. Well, there's Doheeny Drive, which is
- 7:48home to many very expensive mansions. There's Doheany State Beach,
- 7:52which is popular among locals in Malibu, USC has a
- 7:55Doughheany Memorial Library. And then there's also the Doheiny Mansion,
- 8:00which was the family mansion while Ned was growing up.
- 8:03The family bought the mansion in nineteen hundred from another
- 8:05rich but ultimately insignificant family in terms of like political
- 8:09sway or whatever, and this purchase was signaling the signaling
- 8:13of a new era for the Dohiny family. Edward had
- 8:16struggled for many years prior to striking it rich in oil,
- 8:19and this purchase was a sign that things were only
- 8:21going to get better, or at least that they should,
- 8:23or at least monetarily. After purchasing the home in nineteen hundred,
- 8:27the family kept buying the land around it until it stretched,
- 8:31as I had said, to over four hundred acres, which
- 8:34is an insane amount of land anywhere, but especially in
- 8:37la As Ned grew up, he helped his father in
- 8:40the business, and when he married his bride, Lucy, in
- 8:42nineteen fourteen, the couple moved into a home they had
- 8:45bought with Ned's money. Now, funny enough, this was the
- 8:48same year that Edward bought the land Greystone would later
- 8:51be built on, which makes this story seem almost inevitable.
- 8:56The couple then went on to have five children by
- 8:58the mid nineteen twenties, and their going family was in
- 9:00need of more space, apparently to the tune of forty
- 9:04six thousand square feet. Now, Edward Doheny Senior, rich beyond imagination,
- 9:10was happy to gift this mansion to his son. He
- 9:13had actually had it built as part of a design competition,
- 9:16and I don't know that he had plans for it
- 9:18beyond having it built. So it worked out very well
- 9:20that his son wanted to move in, And in fact,
- 9:22Ned and his friend who will talk about soon, did
- 9:25a lot of the planning on this house knowing that
- 9:28Ned would eventually move in. And now when I say
- 9:31that he gifted it to him, I mean that Ed
- 9:34Senior sold it to Ned for ten dollars and this
- 9:37included the four hundred acres on which it sat. So
- 9:40talk about nepotism, right, But as we'll see, this nepotism
- 9:46comes at a very high price. Now, as I previously mentioned,
- 9:52Ned grew up working for his father, and one thing
- 9:55his father insisted all doheey men do, starting with Ned,
- 9:58but continuing on with Ned's children, was to work with
- 10:01their hands, at least for a short time, so they
- 10:04would know the value of hard work, which is actually
- 10:07pretty cool considering how spoiled the children of rich people
- 10:10tend to be. And it's not to say that Ned
- 10:12was not deeply spoiled, obviously, but this was one thing
- 10:16that Edward got right. In my opinion. Ned's birth had
- 10:19nearly coincided with the birth of the automobile. I mean,
- 10:23not really, but like its popularity, and as he grew,
- 10:26so did the public's interest in personal transportation. Ned himself
- 10:30was a huge car enthusiast, so naturally he chose to
- 10:33work in an auto shop to fulfill his father's wishes. Now,
- 10:36it didn't hurt that Ned's high school sweetheart, Lucy, was
- 10:39the daughter of a man who owned many auto repair shops,
- 10:41which made it even easier for Ned to get a
- 10:43quote job in this field. That it already likely would
- 10:46have been really easy for him, you know, but like
- 10:48this made it even easier. Ned was maybe twenty when
- 10:52he started hanging around the auto shop, and there he
- 10:55met Hugh Plunkett, who worked for his soon to be
- 10:58bride's father. The two men hit it off, and Hugh
- 11:01became Ned's personal mechanic chauffeur and later his right hand man.
- 11:05With the official title of secretary. The two even served
- 11:08in the Navy together, with Ned promising you a job
- 11:11upon their safe return and of course making good on
- 11:13his promise. Now, Hugh had always been a blue collar
- 11:16guy working as a mechanic before working for the Dohiny family,
- 11:20and he was a very salt of the earth person.
- 11:22Despite his connection to this very wealthy family. He was
- 11:25one of the only outsiders to be let in on
- 11:27any family secrets, which were plentiful. As you know, all
- 11:32rich families have secrets. All families have secrets, but you know,
- 11:35rich people probably have juicier ones. So this is interesting
- 11:39as Hugh isn't from money but is still seen as
- 11:41a trusted member of their inner circle, though as we'll see,
- 11:44he's definitely not seen as family to be sure, there
- 11:48is absolutely a line there, and we'll see that Hugh
- 11:52was married at one point but ended up spending so
- 11:53much time at the Doheny estate, mainly in the motor
- 11:57pool or in one of their guest rooms, that his
- 11:59wife finally divorced him, citing desertion as her reason for
- 12:03the divorce, and it was granted. So that's how often
- 12:06he was away from home, which is crazy. Now, when
- 12:10I first started writing this, I made the assertion My
- 12:12next sentence was, Hugh, it seemed, was becoming addicted to
- 12:16a lifestyle that had been previously far out of his reach,
- 12:19and as he became more entwined in the lives of
- 12:21the Doohines, his personal life continued to fall apart. But
- 12:24what I want to say here is as the case developed,
- 12:27and as I learned more about the case, because I
- 12:29knew it and I had some obviously preconceived notions, I
- 12:32want to backtrack that statement. I want to make it
- 12:35because I do think that his life became very entwined
- 12:38with the Dohines, obviously, but I don't think that it
- 12:41was the money that kept him there. And again we'll
- 12:44get more into it, but just hold that in your
- 12:46back pocket. The Greystone Mansion was finished in nineteen twenty eight,
- 12:51and the family moved into the fifty five room home
- 12:53in October of that same year, and with them came Hugh.
- 12:57Though not officially, of course. However, he immediately laid claim
- 13:01to a particular guest room, which became his office and
- 13:03bedroom whenever he stayed at the house, which again was
- 13:06very often now. Around this time, things weren't going super
- 13:11great for the Dohiny family. Ed Senior, who, as I mentioned,
- 13:14built his fortune from nothing. I also mentioned, did so
- 13:18through various unscrupulous means. As with today, you don't become
- 13:23a billionaire, which he was like that day's version of
- 13:26through honest work. He was like a multi multi millionaire.
- 13:29As you can imagine, being very rich and powerful meant
- 13:32that Ned was also very well connected politically. Enter one
- 13:37of the lesser remembered but still very significant scandals in
- 13:40American history that of the Teapot Dome before Watergate. This
- 13:45was a Watergate level scandal. And if you don't know what
- 13:48Watergate is, look it up or just listen to this
- 13:50and know they'reabout on the same level. Now, Teapot Dome
- 13:54referred to an area in Wyoming that was oil rich,
- 13:57to say the least. Further, there was another air next
- 14:00to the dome that had even more oil, to the
- 14:02tune of hundreds of millions of dollars worth, even back
- 14:05in nineteen fifteen. Now, at first this oil was kept
- 14:09for the US military to help keep their oil supply
- 14:11steady and to avoid private businesses price gouging, because that's
- 14:15how ED had made his money round one, so basically
- 14:19to set up the military to not have to pay
- 14:21private prices for oil. This was put into place by
- 14:24President Taft in nineteen oh nine, but by the time
- 14:27President Harding took an office in nineteen twenty one, the
- 14:30oil was up for grabs, and Taft gave it to
- 14:33I'm sorry, and Harding gave it to the Interior Department
- 14:36to sell off rights to private oil barons. Now, the
- 14:40way that this was supposed to happen is that the
- 14:43oil companies were supposed to bid for the rights to
- 14:46the land, and the government was supposed to take the
- 14:49highest bidder right, and the person in charge of this
- 14:53was the Secretary of the Interior, Albert Fall. Now, Albert
- 14:57Fall and Ed Doheeny were tight from way back in
- 15:00the eighteen eighties, before either of them had made a
- 15:03name for themselves, and they were a similar type of man, rugged, hardworking,
- 15:08sly and willing to do whatever it took to get ahead.
- 15:11The two remained in touch as they both rose through
- 15:13the ranks, one in the private sector and one in
- 15:15the government. And when the time came to auction off
- 15:18the land, wouldn't you know it, Ed somehow knew exactly
- 15:22how much to bid for the most prosperous portion of
- 15:24the land available without having any competition or anybody else
- 15:29trying to get it. Now, it's not exactly clear how
- 15:32this scandal came out, but there are always whistleblowers around
- 15:35and I salute them honestly. Now, there was another oil
- 15:38baron who got his hands on a different part, and
- 15:40he was also part of this whole case, but I
- 15:43want to really focus on Ed because that's what the
- 15:45story's about. So in this case, the oil fields were
- 15:49awarded to their bidders in mid nineteen twenty one, and
- 15:51by early nineteen twenty two, scandal was already in the
- 15:55air and in the news. Fall and Dohini were under
- 15:59investigation by the government Doheny for offering and Fall for
- 16:03accepting a bribe to the tune of one hundred thousand
- 16:06dollars for insider information related to the purchase to the
- 16:10rights to drill at Elk Hills, which was the lot
- 16:13next door to Teapot Dome. Now, at first, President Harding
- 16:17backed Fall, saying he would never do such a thing,
- 16:19but as things became more and more clear, he distanced
- 16:22himself rather quickly and condemned Fall for all of his
- 16:25alleged actions. In return, Fall resigned, but that did not
- 16:30stop the fallout. Now, Dowheeny and other oil baron were
- 16:33put on trial for their activities, but it didn't even
- 16:37stop there. And also they weren't put on trial for
- 16:39quite a long time. It's a really drawn out thing.
- 16:41I think because these two men were so rich and powerful,
- 16:44they were able to sort of stave this off. So
- 16:46there's multiple proceedings and interviews and potential trials all through
- 16:50the nineteen twenties, and it's a very entangled web. But
- 16:53essentially the government is building a case, trying the men,
- 16:57interviewing all of their code conspirators for about nine years now,
- 17:02about seven years before this really comes to a head. Now.
- 17:06To clarify, when I say co conspirators, I'm talking about Ned.
- 17:11You see, while Ed Senior was the one to pony
- 17:13up the money for the bribe, it was his son
- 17:15Ned and Ned's faithful best friend and secretary, Hugh, who
- 17:19brought the money to Fall in Washington, d c. In fact,
- 17:23investigators were able to track exactly what happened with the bribe,
- 17:27noting that Ned and Hugh traveled first to Ned's New
- 17:30York apartment, stayed a few days while visiting the bank
- 17:33to take out exactly one hundred thousand dollars from Ned's
- 17:36bank account so that it wouldn't be as traceable, and
- 17:38then traveled to Washington, d C. To the Waldman Park
- 17:41Hotel to hand deliver the money to Albert fall Now.
- 17:46Because of this, Ned and Hugh were both very likely
- 17:48to be put on trial, and at a minimum were
- 17:50called to the court multiple times to explain themselves. By
- 17:54nineteen twenty four, it was clear that not only would
- 17:56Ed Senior be indicted, but Ned also and possibly still Hugh, though,
- 18:00who was really only the driver and didn't seem to
- 18:02profit from this deal in any like direct way. I mean,
- 18:05these are his employers, so he probably you know, they
- 18:08make money. He makes money, but not like direct Now.
- 18:11In nineteen twenty six, Ned went on trial but was
- 18:13somehow found not guilty, though he was still able to
- 18:16be charged again under similar crimes, which is exactly what
- 18:19happened in nineteen twenty eight, and this time Hugh was
- 18:23also charged. Now it seems that the reason that the
- 18:26prosecution was going after these men was to get them
- 18:28to roll over on Ed senior, since he was clearly
- 18:31the mastermind of everything. But that's a really common prosecutorial
- 18:37kind of thing where they try to go after the
- 18:40lower guys to get them to roll over on the
- 18:42bigger guy, and if they don't, then at least they
- 18:44put those guys in prison. Right now, of course, this
- 18:47was an extremely stressful time for the Dohiny family, but
- 18:50it was probably even more so for Hugh considering he
- 18:53wasn't really family, so the Dohinys could withdraw their support
- 18:57of him at any time. This is a very Carrie
- 19:00As situation for him to be in and for everyone else. Now.
- 19:03Albert Fall ended up being convicted in nineteen twenty nine
- 19:06on bribery and conspiracy charges, but we'll circle back to
- 19:10that in a minute, because the way this all ends
- 19:12up feels very germane to our current political climate. Let
- 19:14me tell you anyway, as I had noted previously, the
- 19:18mansion was being built while all of this was going on,
- 19:21which Ned and Hugh, like I said, were very involved with,
- 19:24and Hugh was going through a divorce. So lots of
- 19:27bad and stressful things happening in the Dohani world at
- 19:29this time, and everything was a bit we'll just say
- 19:32crazy now. As I mentioned, Albert Fall was convicted and
- 19:37sentenced in nineteen twenty nine to one year in prison
- 19:40for his crimes, So very much a slap on the hand.
- 19:43That being said, something much more awful also happened in
- 19:46nineteen twenty nine in the late hours of February sixteenth,
- 19:50when Hugh Punkett came over unannounced to the Graystone mansion
- 19:54and he and Ned went into his room to discuss
- 19:56some serious business. This is at least what Lucy said.
- 20:00He may never know the true story or all of
- 20:02the details, but I'm giving you what I got now again.
- 20:05Accounts of what happened next very greatly and the truth
- 20:09has never fully come to light. But what we can
- 20:11say is at around two am, Lucy and the family doctor,
- 20:14doctor Ernest Clyde Fishbaugh, called the police to report two
- 20:18men dead at the house. When police arrived, they found
- 20:21thirty one year old Hugh on the ground, face down
- 20:24and spread eagle. He had been shot in the head
- 20:27and had fallen in a way that moved the rug
- 20:29beneath him. In his hand was a cigarette that burned
- 20:32all the way down and actually singed his hand. So
- 20:36seems like he was shot unexpectedly. I'm just gonna throw
- 20:40that in right now. That's just my personal assessment. And
- 20:43on the ground about ten feet away was a second body,
- 20:46that of Ned Doheeney. Ned was on his back with
- 20:49a clear bullet wound in his head, so both of
- 20:51them had head wounds. It had entered from the left,
- 20:55exited through the right temple, and lodged in the wall.
- 20:59A gun posed murder weapon was found still very warm
- 21:03under Hugh Plunkett's body, which was strange as the shots
- 21:07heard by Lucy had been fired over three hours earlier. Now,
- 21:11according to Lucy, Hugh had come over very distressed and
- 21:14locked himself away with Ned. While in another area of
- 21:17the house, she heard sounds coming from the room, but
- 21:20nothing too concerning. She then heard what sounded like a pop,
- 21:23and then initially, she said, followed a few minutes later
- 21:26by another pop. When she went into the room, she
- 21:29found two men on the floor. Now, instead of calling
- 21:31the police, she called the family doctor, who had been
- 21:33out watching a play, but came immediately to her aid
- 21:37Doctor Fishbaugh. She also called Ed Doheany, who came as
- 21:41quickly as he could. At Doheeny Senior obviously, though, was
- 21:44apparently gone before the police came, which is probably an
- 21:47intentional move on the part of the family and probably
- 21:50also pretty smart. Now, the story in the papers the
- 21:54next day and for weeks following was this that Hugh, overwhelmed,
- 21:58distraught and mentally and stable, killed first Ned and then
- 22:02himself to avoid the shame of having to testify in
- 22:04court or going to prison, which would have been the
- 22:07last straw for a divorced, sickly man like Hugh. Now,
- 22:10as you can imagine, this story was pushed by Ned's
- 22:13very rich and powerful family and for many years was
- 22:15considered the real story. Hugh Unstable killed Ned then himself. However,
- 22:22even as immediately as that night, police saw another story
- 22:25unfolding all together. They knew Lucy and the doctor were
- 22:29being dishonest about the situation, and they knew this because
- 22:31when they arrived it was clear that the bodies had
- 22:34been moved, and both had a very rehearsed story to tell.
- 22:38But even that story changed over time. Now. First, the
- 22:42doctor said he had been at the home when the
- 22:44shots were fired. He said that Lucy had called him
- 22:46because Hugh was in such a state and she wanted
- 22:48his help. Now, this story was part of a larger
- 22:51narrative to paint Hugh as unstable, and the doctor was
- 22:54a big part of that, claiming he'd been treating Hugh
- 22:56for months for his anxiety and that is why he
- 22:59was supposed there when everything happened. Even though initially Lucy said,
- 23:04oh well, I heard, you know, shots and called the doctor,
- 23:07then they both sort of changed the story to be like,
- 23:09oh well, I called the doctor because they were fighting,
- 23:10and then we both heard shots. And in fact, the
- 23:13doctor took this story a little bit farther by saying,
- 23:16not only had he heard the first shot, but when
- 23:18he did, he went to the room where the noise
- 23:20had come from and saw Hugh standing outside. When Hugh
- 23:24saw him, he said, don't come in, then slammed the door,
- 23:28and a moment later there was another pop. So obviously
- 23:31they're making it sound like Hugh murdered ned saw the
- 23:35doctor freaked out and killed himself, and then, of course,
- 23:39you know, when they entered the room, both men were dead.
- 23:41Now that's what they said at first, both men were dead. Now,
- 23:45during their very fuse first fused first interview with the
- 23:49doctor on the night of the murders, they already caught
- 23:51him in a lie. He at first, like I said,
- 23:53had he said, you know, both men were dead when
- 23:55we walked in. Neither body had been touched, but police
- 23:58knew they had, as the blood on ned Ed's face
- 24:00had spread across his nose, as though he had been
- 24:03laying one way then moved another before the blood had
- 24:07a chance to dry, so it showed that the blood
- 24:09had moved in two directions on his face. At this
- 24:13when they told him, hey, doc, you're full of shit,
- 24:16he changed his story entirely to include a very large
- 24:20detail that ned had in fact still been alive for
- 24:22about twenty minutes after he entered the room, and that
- 24:25the doctor had tried to help keep him alive, which
- 24:28I at that point, wouldn't you have called for help,
- 24:30like an ambulance or something to actually try to keep
- 24:32him alive. If you had a full twenty minutes of
- 24:35him struggling to live, you would try to call in
- 24:38the big guns, right pun intended? Anyway, Again, in the news,
- 24:42Hugh was the murderer, and even the coroner's report bolstered
- 24:45that argument, or at least what they released of it.
- 24:47They said that Hugh had placed the gun to his
- 24:49own head so hard that there were powder burns inside
- 24:53his skull, which had been fractured in four places due
- 24:56to the blast from the gun because he was pushing
- 24:58it so hard against his head. They also confirmed that
- 25:01Ned had been shot from six feet away and that
- 25:03he had not lived for twenty minutes, but only for
- 25:06a moment, which is convenient. They basically said, Oh, the
- 25:09doctor wasn't totally lying when he said that, but he
- 25:12was probably you know, stressed out, and it seemed like
- 25:14a lot longer than it was, right, So everybody's telling
- 25:17the truth here. However, this narrative still didn't sit right
- 25:21with Hugh's family, nor the main investigator, Les White, who
- 25:25was on the scene the night of the murder suicide.
- 25:27So let's get into why this is bullshit? Shall we have.
- 25:31I've left out some of the details of the crime
- 25:32scene because I want to use them here to explain
- 25:34why these people are full of shit, if that makes sense. Now, First,
- 25:40we have the bodies being moved. Why do that if
- 25:43there's nothing to hide? Right, I mean, that's not even First.
- 25:45First we have them waiting three hours to call, but
- 25:48that's kind of a given that that's ridiculous. Beyond that,
- 25:52why were the bodies moved? Second, again, why call the
- 25:55doctor and your family before you call the police? Also
- 26:00I said before, why not call for help if your
- 26:02husband is still alive. Also, upon further investigation, which of
- 26:06course this was not released to the public, it was
- 26:08found that in order for Hugh to have shot Ned
- 26:10and had the bullet lodge in the wall where it
- 26:12was found, he would have had to have been on
- 26:13his knees beneath Ned, which sounds highly implausible. Also, there
- 26:19were powder burns on Ned's head as well, meaning the
- 26:22gun was very near his head when the trigger was pulled,
- 26:25not six feet away, And the fact that the gun
- 26:28was that close to Hugh's head could have very easily
- 26:30meant someone else was pressing it against him. In fact,
- 26:34it almost makes more sense in my opinion, as it's
- 26:36not that easy to push something against your own temple
- 26:38that hard, like, not as hard as someone with more
- 26:41leverage could do, you know. Also, police immediately were like,
- 26:46this gun is way too hot to have been used
- 26:49three hours ago and then left under somebody's body. And
- 26:53in fact, when they did ballistics testing, which they did
- 26:55back then, believe it or not, they were unable to
- 26:58replicate the temperature of the gun when they found it
- 27:00three hours after the shooting, so they shot it fresh
- 27:03and it was never as hot as it was when
- 27:05they found it supposedly three hours after it had been fired.
- 27:08So all of this sort of like at the scene
- 27:10evidence really points to what the you know, the narrative
- 27:15in the news and pushed by the family, the Dahini
- 27:18family is kind of bullshit. There's also a finer point
- 27:21that like, I'm not really good at explaining, but essentially
- 27:25they also disproved what the doctor said about Ned being alive.
- 27:28I'm sorry, not ned with about Hugh being alive and
- 27:30slamming the door in his face by looking at the
- 27:32placement of both the cigarette and the gun in his hand,
- 27:35and I realized it's like, well again, I'm gonna leave
- 27:38it because I'm not very good at explaining it. But
- 27:40essentially what they were saying is like he wouldn't have
- 27:43been able to slam the door and then shoot himself
- 27:45as quickly as the doctor said because of like the
- 27:47placement of the gun and his body in XYZ. So anyway,
- 27:51all of this shows on the scene that they were lying.
- 27:56Now beyond this, Ned, whose family the Dohinys, were de Catholics,
- 28:01was not buried in the family cemetery, which was on
- 28:06like Holy Catholic land right, Like I'm an atheist, I'm
- 28:09not sure what you call that, but like it was
- 28:11in like a Catholic cemetery. Now, instead, he was buried
- 28:15in a Christian cemetery in Glendale actually, and only about
- 28:20fifty yards from him Hugh was buried. Now, why is
- 28:25this significant Because in Catholicism you cannot kill yourself and
- 28:28if you do, you can't be buried in their cemetery
- 28:31and you also won't go to heaven. So the fact
- 28:33that they did not bury him is in that you know,
- 28:36family plot is very suspicious. My assumption and the assumption
- 28:40of many, is that his family probably told their priest
- 28:43the truth and he forbade Ned from being buried in
- 28:47their cemetery. So all of this leads us to believe,
- 28:50and this is the prevailing theory now that Ned first
- 28:53killed Hugh and then himself. Now as to why he
- 28:56did it, that remains uncertain. But there are a few theories,
- 28:59and some of them can work in conjunction with one another.
- 29:02So let's discuss now, First, there's the obvious the men
- 29:08were being forced to testify in court, both against each
- 29:10other and also against Ned's father, who was facing you know,
- 29:14potentially a decent prison sentence if he was convicted, and
- 29:17is also a very powerful man. So it's very very scary,
- 29:21and obviously this can be scary for each man differently,
- 29:23But in the end it was Ned's father whose reputation
- 29:26and freedom were at risk, and it was Ned himself
- 29:29who faced the harsher charges of the two, as he
- 29:32was seen as the bagman, having himself delivered the money
- 29:35while he was just the driver. Now beyond this, there
- 29:37were other signs pointing to Ned being the better bet
- 29:40for a murder suicide for the perpetrator of such members
- 29:44of his family, mostly on the side by marriage. On
- 29:47like Lucy's side, claimed that Ned suffered from depression, which
- 29:51makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
- 29:53His mother died when he was young, and his father
- 29:55was away making his fortune, leaving Ned very much alone
- 29:58for most of his youth. This was probably very traumatizing
- 30:02and definitely made for a very lonely childhood. Even in
- 30:06his adulthood, there photos of him like before I really
- 30:09knew a lot about this case. I would look at
- 30:10photos of him and I was like, this man looks
- 30:12really not sad, just unhappy. It's not even like an
- 30:17emotion of the moment where he's just like particularly sad.
- 30:20In that instance, every photo of him, he just looks unhappy.
- 30:25Not to mention that his mother committed suicide over his
- 30:28father's leaving her, which doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it
- 30:31does point to the possibility that depression runs in their
- 30:34family now. A man named Anson Lisk Junior, whose uncle
- 30:39was called to the scene the night of the men's deaths,
- 30:42later said that it was a known fact that Ned
- 30:44lived in another part of the house away from Lucy.
- 30:47Anson is Lucy's nephew, so it was his father, Lucy's
- 30:51brother who was called to the house, and so the
- 30:55family it was kind of like an open secret that
- 30:58they were sort of living away from each other. And
- 31:00I mean, it's a big enough house to do it
- 31:01right now. As for why, he said that this was
- 31:05due to his moods and his depression, which Lucy wanted
- 31:08to shelter the children from, which also kind of helps
- 31:11with this theory, but it also lends credibility to another theory,
- 31:16which I believe, if true, was a factor in this mess,
- 31:19but definitely not the whole reason. See Anson also said,
- 31:24very matter of factly in an interview years after all
- 31:27of this, that Ned and his secretary were in a relationship,
- 31:32his secretary being a Hugh. Now, this rumor has been
- 31:35around since the day of the deaths, but in his
- 31:36words and in his matter of fact way of talking,
- 31:39this was very much a known thing. Also, it makes
- 31:42sense that they would be lovers, because why else would
- 31:44Hugh spend nearly every night in their mansion, in the
- 31:47same half of the mansion where Ned also stayed far
- 31:49away from Lucy and the children. You know, why would
- 31:52he let his marriage dissolve while spending all this time
- 31:54with someone who was at most a friend and it
- 31:56were simply his employer. Right. And I'm not saying that
- 31:59marriages don't fall apart like this where someone is away
- 32:01from the home because of work or whatever. But you
- 32:04know where he was specifically and why he was there,
- 32:08he really seems It just makes me wonder. It also
- 32:11makes a bit more understandable how tensions ran so high
- 32:14between the two men, and why Ned wasn't buried in
- 32:17the Catholic plot with the rest of his family, because like,
- 32:19even if he was the victim, which nobody believes at
- 32:22this point, if he was in a gay relationship, that's
- 32:25another way to not get buried with the rest of
- 32:27the family. Right now, there's a ton of other evidence
- 32:30pointing to this, but I think I've made my point here,
- 32:33and and like there's an argument that the whole gay
- 32:35storyline was more to besmirch the Doahiny family name or
- 32:39for the sake of selling papers, you know, once the
- 32:42Dohiny's no longer kind of had a stranglehold on the
- 32:45papers because it's all while it was something people talked
- 32:48about back then, it wasn't really reported until later when
- 32:51it was like safe to do so. But I do
- 32:53think it's worth mentioning because even you know, close friends
- 32:57of the family at that time mentioned that they were
- 33:00far more than just employer or employee. So what that
- 33:03meant at the time, it's hard to say. Like people
- 33:05were friends with Ed Senior were like, oh yeah, those
- 33:09two men were way closer than just friends, and they
- 33:11never said what they meant by that, But like it
- 33:13all kind of points to that. Now. In nineteen thirty six,
- 33:17Les White, the detective on the case who was shut
- 33:19down by his boss, the media, and the Dohiny family.
- 33:22You know, it wasn't really allowed to investigate any of
- 33:25the things that he noticed that night or afterward released
- 33:28a memoir about many high profile cases he'd worked on
- 33:32in Los Angeles, definitely including the Greystone Mansion murders. Now,
- 33:37it's hard to find a copy, and it was definitely
- 33:39hard back then and especially in Los Angeles, and Hugh's
- 33:42brother went to try to buy one and was told
- 33:45by many of the bookstores that he went to that
- 33:47the Doahiny family bought every copy available, presumably to keep
- 33:52it out of the hands of their peers in the
- 33:54LA area. So what happened may never truly be known,
- 33:59but I believe most people believe at this point that
- 34:01Ned killed first Hugh and then himself. Now, as far
- 34:05as his motive, I think his main motive was to
- 34:08spare his father from prosecution for his crimes, as the
- 34:11family had sort of looked at different ways to avoid
- 34:14having Hugh testify, including having him check into a mental
- 34:18health clinic, which back then not super nice places we
- 34:22would call them like sanitariums uh, to avoid having to
- 34:25testify now. As a note, this is where much of
- 34:28what the doctor said about Hugh came from. Basically, they
- 34:30spun the tale that Hugh had been mentally unwell for months,
- 34:33maybe even a year, due to infected teeth and the
- 34:36stress of his divorce and the scandal. This narrative was
- 34:40first created so that there would be a paper trail
- 34:42if he did in fact agree to go to the
- 34:43mental hospital as directed by the Dohini family, but it
- 34:47worked out well to use it to frame him for
- 34:49Ned's murder when it was most likely, like I said,
- 34:51the other way around. And so I think when you know,
- 34:54Ned finally realized, like Hugh's not going to cooperate, He's
- 34:58not going to do what we want. Plus he's already depressed,
- 35:01Plus he's very stressed out about what's gonna happen with
- 35:03his father. He just decided we just both have to die. Now.
- 35:07Whether or not there was a romantic element, I can't say,
- 35:09and I don't know that it matters. What does matter
- 35:12is clearing the name of a man who fell victim
- 35:14to a very wealthy and powerful family who would apparently
- 35:16do anything to keep their name clean in the media,
- 35:19which I hope I've helped to do. I hope that
- 35:21I've helped to clear Hugh's name. Now, as for what
- 35:25happened to good old Ed Doheeney Well, unlike the other
- 35:28oil man to give Fall a bribe, Doheany walked entirely free,
- 35:32acquitted on all charges. And the other man who gave
- 35:36Albert Fall a bribe also did not go to prison
- 35:39for bribery or conspiracy. He went for contempt of like,
- 35:44not contempt of court, but like something similar to that,
- 35:47which is really interesting because Albert Fall was found guilty
- 35:49of accepting bribes, but nobody was found guilty of bribing him,
- 35:54which is a very interesting thing and and maybe not
- 35:57so much interesting as telling of the way that power
- 36:01and powerful men work in our society. I would say
- 36:04to this day, so Ed escaped, and all it took
- 36:09was the life of his son and his son's best friend.
- 36:13Was it a price worth paying? I don't really know.
- 36:15What I do know is shows a strong pattern that
- 36:18is still alive and well in our country. If you're rich,
- 36:21you can get away with anything, including murder. You can
- 36:25buy the newspapers and tell them what to print. You
- 36:28can bribe the government to give you all the means
- 36:29to make money while others go without. And as for Greystone,
- 36:34it now belongs to the city of Beverly Hills and
- 36:37sits on I think only about twenty acres of land.
- 36:39The rest has been given to the city or sold off,
- 36:42and some of it actually is the home of the
- 36:43city's water supply, which is pretty crazy. The house itself
- 36:47hosts children's summer camps, they do tours of the interior
- 36:51of the home, and as I mentioned, private events like
- 36:54weddings which I help to cater. And that's about it.
- 36:58That's the history of Teapot Dome, of Doheeny, the Dohiny family,
- 37:05and the Graystone murder suicide as committed by ned against
- 37:12Q Plunket and covered up by the family. All right,
- 37:16there it is, guys. I started recording this in mid January.
- 37:20It's February first, and I'm finally posting this. I'm so
- 37:23sorry it took so long. That is a testament to
- 37:26how much work I've been doing and how sick i've been. Again,
- 37:28I sort of got I feel you. I'm always telling you, guys,
- 37:30I'm sick, but with a ten year old, I am
- 37:32always sick. And if any of you have kids, you
- 37:34know it because you're always sick too. It makes it
- 37:36hard to record because I sound like a psycho and
- 37:38I'm like voices all crackly and awful, where I'm like sniffling.
- 37:41It's terrible, so I'm trying to trying to avoid that
- 37:44as much as possible, but it makes things take a
- 37:47little longer. So I apologize, and I thank you all
- 37:49for your patience with these and I think you all
- 37:51for listening and supporting, and I hope this has been
- 37:54a great story for you, despite you know, the sad,
- 37:58the murder elements. Please like, rate review, tell your friends,
- 38:03uh and until next time, stay safe.
- 38:08Speaker 1: M h
- 38:18Speaker 2: M hmm.