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Browns Recap, Bengals Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we break down the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: heartbreaking loss on Thursday night in Cleveland, look ahead to
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  Speaker 1: the matchup in Cincinnati against the Bengals, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about some of our video game go to
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  Speaker 1: elements in honor of the Steelers snow game that they
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  Speaker 1: played through in Cleveland. I'm Nick de Tulo, and as always,
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by the world famous accountants Eric Vammnhowden, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: how are you tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: So we're we're hosting, you know, my parents and sister
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  Speaker 3: in law on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: So because we just moved in to a new place,
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  Speaker 2: I've been payton all week.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, just been doing that to kind of keep
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  Speaker 3: my mind a little bit off of what happened on Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hosting as well. And Thursday's game was certainly
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  Speaker 1: a unique experience, and we'll rely more were on your
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  Speaker 1: expertise than mine on this one because I wasn't able
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  Speaker 1: to see the whole game. I watched bits and pieces
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  Speaker 1: where I could, But this was kind of like you're
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  Speaker 1: familiar with Murphy's Law, where everything that can go wrong
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  Speaker 1: will go wrong. This was kind of like that, but
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  Speaker 1: it was more like we kept shooting ourselves in the foot,
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  Speaker 1: not you know, things that were out of our control
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  Speaker 1: kept going wrong.
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  Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, So full disclosure. I was actually at
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  Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech NC State game. I watched the first
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  Speaker 1: half of the Steelers game on my phone in the
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  Speaker 1: end or you know, in my seat at the Georgia
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  Speaker 1: Tech game. And then I was running too low on
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  Speaker 1: battery because I didn't plan ahead and charge it as
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  Speaker 1: much as I should have. And then I we left
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  Speaker 1: the game a little bit early, went to a bar,
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  Speaker 1: and we watched the last maybe three minutes or so
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  Speaker 1: of game time. So I feel like I got a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good dosage of the poor decision making that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about. That I'll just turn things over
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  Speaker 1: to you a little earlier than I normally do and
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  Speaker 1: just let you walk us all through what happened in the.
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  Speaker 4: Game and what went wrong. Really.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's kind of tough to say exactly
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  Speaker 3: what went wrong, because if you look at the statue,
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  Speaker 3: a lot went right.
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  Speaker 2: So seven to sixteen and third down, we outgained them, we.
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  Speaker 3: Had less penalties, we won the turnover margin by two,
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  Speaker 3: and we won the time.
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  Speaker 2: Of possession by ten minutes. So what went wrong?
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  Speaker 3: We made very poor decisions in every phase of the game,
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  Speaker 3: So it gets chopped up to I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins's worst coach game of the year.
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  Speaker 3: I think there should be a little bit of blame,
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  Speaker 3: if not a lot of blame on him. We went
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  Speaker 3: for fourth downs that we probably shouldn't have to. We
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  Speaker 3: ran Chris Boswell out there to kick a fifty eight
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  Speaker 3: yarder in the snow, which I know he's our MVP
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  Speaker 3: of the year, but you're not sending anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Up for success by kicking the frozen bomb. Yeah it's
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  Speaker 2: a frozen turkey right there traveling.
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  Speaker 3: You know, on a good day.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty eight yards is hard to kick. So yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: was pretty much the start of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Even and then just our typical we haven't been great
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  Speaker 3: in the red zone, so I just we obviously were
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  Speaker 3: kind of stalling on a few drives, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: the defense when they needed to just didn't come up
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  Speaker 3: with plates. I mean, when Jameis Winston runs in for
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown to win game, I mean that just kinda
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  Speaker 3: tells you all.
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  Speaker 2: Like it wasn't that you did any kind of acrobatic move.
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  Speaker 2: It just they wanted it more, they got it, and
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  Speaker 2: so you know, it just looks like a very complacent football.
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  Speaker 3: Team that showed up on Thursday, and unfortunately it led
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  Speaker 3: to our first w or first.
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  Speaker 2: Down in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, I watched the first half and then
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  Speaker 1: missed a good chunk of the second half, and I
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  Speaker 1: had a bad feeling because on the Steelers first drive,
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  Speaker 1: they attempted a fifty eight yard field goal, which even
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  Speaker 1: with bos and good conditions, is not something I ever
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  Speaker 1: really advocate for, let alone in the snow. And it
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  Speaker 1: hadn't even started to get crazy with the snow yet. Yeah, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: And my thoughts were, why would you not just punt
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  Speaker 1: the ball and make the Browns drive at least what
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  Speaker 1: seventy five yards if if you kick it into the
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  Speaker 1: end zone hopefully more So that was kind of the
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  Speaker 1: first bad feeling I had in my stomach about the
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  Speaker 1: whole game, and then fast forwarding to the end, the
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  Speaker 1: whole last five minutes or however much it was was just.
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  Speaker 4: Maddening to me.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of frustrating to not see the defense
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  Speaker 1: able to put a stop up when they needed to.
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  Speaker 1: They did have a couple turnovers, which was big. Russ
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  Speaker 1: had a pretty bad fumble as well, which was not
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  Speaker 1: helping anyone. But on the last drive of the game
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  Speaker 1: for the Browns, they had it looked like it should
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  Speaker 1: have been called intentional grounding, but I guess, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you heard the explanation or not.
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  Speaker 4: Allegedly one of the brown on.
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  Speaker 1: The lineman reported is eligible, so that that's why it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't thrown.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the case or not. But
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  Speaker 4: they did throw a flag on the play.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was ineligible receiver downfield possibly or maybe
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  Speaker 1: illegal touching.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the deal was Tomlin had to decide do
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  Speaker 1: you want to let him do fourth and two or
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  Speaker 1: repeat third down? And had it third and seven, and
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  Speaker 1: he went with He accepted the penalty and then.
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  Speaker 5: Like contemplating and going back and forth three different times.
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  Speaker 5: Correct he got by the Browns and fans, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: he deserves it, Like I don't understand this, like we
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we should have been able to flat
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  Speaker 5: that many times.
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  Speaker 2: That was like a delay of game on our end.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and and frankly, it sucks that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: make the call that we all probably thought that should have,
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  Speaker 1: but the refs never are just going to be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you disagree, let's change the flag.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't The only way that works is if your
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  Speaker 1: fans throw bottles on the field, like we've seen in
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  Speaker 1: college football this year. And if there's any propield that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna have that happen, it's definitely Cleveland. But they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing it for the Steelers, I can
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  Speaker 1: tell you that much. The point is, and maybe we'd
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  Speaker 1: feel differently if they had if it had if they
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  Speaker 1: had stopped him on third down or something, but they didn't,
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  Speaker 1: And I personally in the moment, was like, why would
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  Speaker 1: you not just make them go for fourth and two
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  Speaker 1: because you know they're going to go for it anyway
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  Speaker 1: if they don't get the third down, So why are
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  Speaker 1: we giving them an extra play to burn even more time?
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  Speaker 1: The time speaking of time that the time management was awful.
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  Speaker 1: There was a timeout that should never have been taken.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was on that possession right there, and
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  Speaker 1: that left the Steelers with only one time out to
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  Speaker 1: work with on the drive there or on that following drive.
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  Speaker 1: It was just bad management. And then finally on the
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  Speaker 1: Hail Mary Plass. I actually thought Russ did a good
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  Speaker 1: job getting the ball off and he threw the ball
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  Speaker 1: in the perfect spot of the end zone. He stayed
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  Speaker 1: in the pocket and took a hit, But it didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like anyone was really paying attention.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Someone brought made a good point to me. They said,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're on a Hail Mary, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as you get to the goal line, you should
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  Speaker 1: turn around. And I'm like, you probably should have your
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  Speaker 1: eyes up a little before then, even but yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess it is frustrating that they lost yet
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  Speaker 1: another game to a team that they probably should have won.
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  Speaker 1: I do think they're the better team. I don't agree
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  Speaker 1: with George Pickens saying as much after the game after
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  Speaker 1: getting and yet another off the field scuffle or whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to call it. But I guess if I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to take this with a grain of salt, there
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  Speaker 1: was bad weather didn't help anyone. This was probably the
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  Speaker 1: Browns' biggest game so far because we were coming off
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  Speaker 1: a big win and we are still rivals. It sucks,
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  Speaker 1: but as long as they, you know, keep their heads
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  Speaker 1: on straight, though, they should be Okay, would you agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's still frustrating.
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  Speaker 3: The Ravens won, so they did gain a little bit
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  Speaker 3: on it, so that that we just worked really hard last.
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  Speaker 2: Week has now gone away a smidge.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, as long as
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  Speaker 3: the Steelers take care of business going forward, we're still fine.
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  Speaker 2: But we had a chance to take care of business
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday and we did it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, and the unfortunate thing too is the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens gotta win as well, which doesn't help. We're still
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  Speaker 1: ahead in the division, but would have been nice to
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  Speaker 1: get that division win to keep that pad against the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, I'm choosing to be optimistic because there
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  Speaker 1: were a few good things we saw. Russell Wilson overall
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  Speaker 1: had a pretty good game. I do like that they're
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  Speaker 1: starting to utilize justin fields more. I do wish. I
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  Speaker 1: feel kind of bad because I was saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they should let him throw the ball once in
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  Speaker 1: a while, just so they don't always assume it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a run when he's in. And I guess
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  Speaker 1: one of the plays I missed was a third and
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  Speaker 1: short and they had field through a fifty yard bomb
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  Speaker 1: and my immediate response was, why are you having him
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  Speaker 1: throw that? So maybe I should have specified, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a five yard out route or something they can let
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  Speaker 1: him throw. The point I was trying to make was
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  Speaker 1: let's not be so predictable that they see justin fields
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  Speaker 1: and all they have to do is guess which side of.
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  Speaker 4: The ball is gonna run on.
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  Speaker 1: But overall, it is good to see him getting involved,
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  Speaker 1: to see those plays, and yeah, I just think if
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  Speaker 1: they can tweak some things, they should be okay moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately a game against the Bengals might be a
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  Speaker 1: good place to start. So, yeah, is there anything else
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to mention about this game in Cleveland before
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  Speaker 1: we move on?
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  Speaker 2: Just hopefully doesn't replicate itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you. So the Steelers are
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  Speaker 1: going to stay in Ohio. They're going to travel down
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  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to Eric's stomping Grounds to play the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: next week. The Bengals have by and large been a
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  Speaker 1: very disappointing team this year.
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  Speaker 4: Their offense has been about the same as it.
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  Speaker 1: Has been for the last couple of years, very good,
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  Speaker 1: but their defense is just not there.
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  Speaker 4: This year.
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  Speaker 1: They have really struggled They've lost a lot of games.
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  Speaker 1: There's some games they probably should have won, and they
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  Speaker 1: just they could not hold the other teams. The two
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  Speaker 1: games against Baltimore come to mind. But nevertheless, like we
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  Speaker 1: saw in Cleveland, another team that had a widely disappointing year,
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  Speaker 1: anything can happen on any Sunday, especially when you're playing
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  Speaker 1: a division rival like the Pittsburgh Steelers. So looking ahead
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  Speaker 1: at this game, Eric, where are some of your takeaways
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  Speaker 1: in this matchup in Cincinnati?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I think you previewed the Bengals
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  Speaker 3: really well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, It's something I talked about with.
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  Speaker 3: My coworkers here in Cincinnati, is just they're a weird
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  Speaker 3: team because Joe Brows having an arguably an MVP year,
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  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase is having a arguably a Offensive Player of
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  Speaker 3: the Year year their defensive and Trey Hendrickson is leading
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  Speaker 3: the league in sacks, so you can put them in
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  Speaker 3: the defensive player of the Year category in there, four
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  Speaker 3: and seven. Just seems weird that you might say that
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  Speaker 3: three of the best players in all the football on
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  Speaker 3: the same team and you got a losing squad. So
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  Speaker 3: they I mean, they definitely have the talent, They've been
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  Speaker 3: struggling in certain areas. If it becomes a kicking match,
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  Speaker 3: we got the advantage there, I'll tell you what. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the Bengals, they just like the Browns. This
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  Speaker 3: is like a game that if they win this game,
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  Speaker 3: the fans are gonna be like, well.
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  Speaker 2: This year was a disappointment, but at least would be
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  Speaker 2: the Steeler. So, you know, a lot of the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Will be kind of the intangibles of the game will
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  Speaker 3: be a lot of the similar things that.
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  Speaker 2: We just had this past week.
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  Speaker 3: So what makes me a little nervous is Okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of team are we? Are we gonna recognize that,
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  Speaker 3: tighten up and get better or are we gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 3: play slappy again and let a team that we should have.
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  Speaker 2: Beat beat us.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I think the preview for this week is,
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  Speaker 3: because of how we played this last week, is don't
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  Speaker 3: beat yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We should win this game. The chips should lie in
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  Speaker 2: our favor, so we don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: Be overly aggressively. I felt like we were on Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: We do that, we play our game, we get out
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  Speaker 3: of there with a win. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think the big thing for me too, though, is
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  Speaker 1: we particular with the offense, you gotta any opportunity you have,
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  Speaker 1: you need to get the ball into the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: We can't have any of these missed layups anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: a game against the Bengals in particular, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: defense is not good, neither is Baltimore's, but we weren't
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  Speaker 1: able to score a single touchdown on them. We did
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  Speaker 1: respond a little bit in that regard against the Browns.
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  Speaker 1: But my point though is the Bengals do have a
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  Speaker 1: solid They still have Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase t Higgins.
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  Speaker 1: They can score points, and they definitely will score points,
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  Speaker 1: particularly if TJ. Watt isn't able to make his presence
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  Speaker 1: known in Cleveland. He was, he didn't really make that
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  Speaker 1: presence known. He was pretty irrelevant.
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  Speaker 4: We'll just say it.
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  Speaker 1: Against Cleveland, and in a game where you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett versus t J. Watt, that is certainly not
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  Speaker 1: what you want to see. But keeping it in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that the Steelers defense is not
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  Speaker 1: going to totally shut out the Bengals offense.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to.
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  Speaker 1: Assume that the Bengals are going to score points, and
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  Speaker 1: I think they'll do it pretty often. So what I
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  Speaker 1: mean is I think that Russell Wilson has got to
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  Speaker 1: get in the end zone every chance they can. We
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  Speaker 1: can't have these red zone trips where we're throwing interceptions
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  Speaker 1: that should be caught, or where we have to settle
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  Speaker 1: for field goals, which, by the way, I do agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. If it comes down to the kickers, we
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  Speaker 1: will win. I would really I agree with Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of Boswell when in Player of the week.
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  Speaker 1: I would really like to just get.
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  Speaker 4: Some touchdowns here. And really, I think that's that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not much I can say from an
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  Speaker 1: ex as and O's perspective, because it's pretty universally accepted
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  Speaker 1: that the Bengals defense is atrocious and if the Steelers'
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  Speaker 1: offense can't score on them, then I think we have
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  Speaker 1: some real problems that we need to figure out here,
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  Speaker 1: because that would be you've got two games already this
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  Speaker 1: year where you haven't kicked a field goal or you
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  Speaker 1: haven't scored a touchdown and you had.
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  Speaker 4: To only kick field goals.
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  Speaker 1: If you have a repeat performance of that three times
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  Speaker 1: in a year, we need to talk. It's no longer
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  Speaker 1: just a Matt Canada thing or a Kenny Pickett thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a system thing, and it's the system
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  Speaker 1: is not their offense, it's the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: So and what do you think is driving it? Nick?
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you think.
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  Speaker 3: That there's a particular reason and or is there a
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  Speaker 3: solution that you.
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  Speaker 2: Think that we could find.
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  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of it's just were very predictable.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like against the Browns. And again, maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is just me popping in and out of watching the game,
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  Speaker 1: but it seemed like, at least for a good chunk
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  Speaker 1: of the time I was watching, it was runs up
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  Speaker 1: the middle first and second down, short pass on third down.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Again, this is the same guy who just complained about
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  Speaker 1: Justin Field's throwing a fifty yard bomb and then saying
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  Speaker 1: we're too predictable. So I I mean, you know, maybe I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know. That's what my gut's telling me, that they're
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  Speaker 4: just too predictable when they get in the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like, Okay, I shouldn't have to be disconcerned
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  Speaker 1: about whether Naji Harris can get two yards or not.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's always I feel myself sighing with relief every
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  Speaker 1: time he does on those situations.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's so unexpected. And I don't know if it's.
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  Speaker 1: A naugy thing or the line thing, or like I said,
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  Speaker 1: we're just too predictable. But I think that's it. It
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  Speaker 1: just seems like every time we get into the red zone,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of come down on ourselves. So our only
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  Speaker 1: method to avoid that is to have these continuous thirty
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  Speaker 1: plus yard bomb plays to George Pickens from Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 4: That's at least what I'm thinking. Do you have any
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  Speaker 4: thoughts on it as well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Okay, so Nag hasn't been like in this past
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  Speaker 3: game he ran for I think less than three yards
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  Speaker 3: of carry. I don't think he's been as effective lately.
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  Speaker 3: And then I mean, I think the strength of Russell
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  Speaker 3: Wilson is also a little bit of a negative when
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  Speaker 3: it comes down to the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Russ needs to get a little bit better about passes. Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I think in the red zone it's all about, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: working on that. With your wide receivers. You run a
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: slant pass or a fade route to the corner, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: those are the most effective red zone plays.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: But Russell's very unscripted, and I think that like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: It helps when you get a fifty yard gain, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: don't think it helps when you try to get a
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: five yard gain and you're trying.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: To run out of the pockets.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: So yeah, so it's tough because you know, the same
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: thing that's.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Led to like a little bit of like a spark
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: in our offense is also the detriment and we're talking
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: about right now.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. Well, my point still stands, though.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You gotta whatever it is, you got to figure it out,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and against the Bengals, you've got to you've got to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: score the points when you can. I mentioned the Ravens,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and they're a good example of a team that I mean,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: they drop the ball against US, but against the Bengals.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: The Bengals probably.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Should have won both of those games if you look
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at the stats. Joe Burrow has like some ridiculous number
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of passing yards. Jamar Chase has like five or six touchdowns,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and they lost both games. But that's because the Ravens
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: strapped up and they scored when they needed to to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: win those games. And I think that's what the good
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: teams do in the end. So I think the Steelers,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: coming off of the loss to the Browns and having
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that half by since they played on Thursday night, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: think they've got a good opportunity, a good opportunity here.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I think I am gonna give them the win, although
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a little reluctant to do it. I'll say that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win, but it's gonna it's gonna be twenty
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: eight twenty four Steelers.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. You know, I think I can go look pessimistic
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: because I don't know. I think a lot of the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: same things are there. And for the Browns game, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: was obviously I forget three touchdown win. So I'm flip
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: flopping a little bit here.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that, like, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: maybe a little bit in the funk. I think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the defense played extremely well, you know, like.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Two or you know, against the Ravens and stuff like that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: But the offense is really kind of concerning me lately.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I just don't think it's been in the same you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the last two games, not where.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I think it needs to be. You know, we've scored
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: thirty seven points of the last two. I just don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: think that that fits really well with like the Bengals.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I think that, like you.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Said, the score plays in bunches. Watched that Ravens game
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: that you talked about. With the Bengals, Jamar Chase is
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: obviously a problem.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: He gets scored three touchdowns on four catches in the.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Game and have two hundred yards. So you know, do
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I think that we can win? Oh? Yeah, but I
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: think that there's a lot of things.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Right now that I I kind of need to see
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: and I'm not seeing it.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Bengals win thirty one to twenty.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I even though I picked the Steelers to win, I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: feel like You're probably gonna be more correct than I am.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: So all right, Well, there you have it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm right and Eric's wrong, and I even prove
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: myself wrong here. But yeah, that's just kind of the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: way things are going right now with the Steelers. You
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: never we always have these lulls, And I think you're
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: right where no pun intended things tend to snowball a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: little out of control.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Where we go on these their skids.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They're not even just like we dropped a bad game,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: it's we dropped three com in jeopardy of missing the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: playoffs and then sneak in in the last week or two.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so all right, got a good time to do
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: it against a big divisional slate, So we got to
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: figure it out quick.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's drop that game against the Chiefs when they're
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: already going to have the number one seed locked up anyway, right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that's right? Okay, Well, with the Steelers playing that game
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in the snow, and that was definitely a snow game,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: probably the biggest one we've seen in a while. Actually,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: we thought it might be kind of fun to talk
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: about instances when you're playing those video games, whether it's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Madden or NC DOUBLEA Football. I just played the new
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: NCAA Football game for the first time this weekend, so
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: definitely fun experience.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: But I think everyone goes through it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Where when you set the stage and what the atmosphere
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: is like, you pick that favorite setting of yours, whether
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's the national title or the Super Bowl or a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: specific bowl game if you're playing college or I don't know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about it specifically too, But what time of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: day do you set it? So I'll let you lead off, Eric,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: When you are playing whether it's Madden or NC DOUBLEA Football,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what is the atmosphere that you pick for your matchups.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, one that I hated. I'll start with
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: what I hated and I never wanted to.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Do was the Rose Bowl.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever noticed this about the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Rose Bowl, but the sun is awful in that stadium,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: at least in NC double A two thousand and five,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: which is the latest that I.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Am twenty years old.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Graphics are unreal, but.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, I tend to be pretty vanilla
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: when I normally am playing football and stuff like that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Don't really do much of the tinkering.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: With them with the settings and stuff.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: But you know, I do like a good rain game.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I love like because I think a rain.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Game kind of like is a really good variable. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: don't think anyone. I don't think it creates an advantage
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: because I think, you know, like when it's a windy
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: game and stuff like that, it's like a good running
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: game probably works out and it kind of neutralizes the
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: passing offense. I think with rain, you know, it's a
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: lot about footing, and I think that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Like the game simulates up pretty well. I think running.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Backs cough the ball up, so it's not like you
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: can just say, okay, well.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Quarterback can't throw it X number of yards down in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the field. Well, running back also has trouble too, So yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think you know, when I'm doing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Setting, I don't mess too much with the breeze, staying
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: out of the rose bowl and you know, whether it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: a monsoon down to a little trickle.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I do night games a lot. That's my number one thing.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I always pick the night game. I do prefer to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: do snow games as well. Just again, I like enjoying
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the the elements from the comforts of my own home
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: where I don't have to be in the elements. So yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'll make those guys play in the snow and the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: rain at night, no less. I usually I remember doing
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: this at your house too, and probably on that same
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: NCAA game. Picking Boise State a lot just to play
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: on the blue turf. I think that's something that a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: lot of people do the first time they discover that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Boise State does use blue turf instead of the green turf,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just because it's so different. But yeah, that's that's my
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: big thing. Is it's always at night. I always try
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to make it. If it's a if I'm playing against
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: just a computer. I always make it a rivalry too,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just for the fun of it, and then I think
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: it's fun too. In the old NCAA games, you used
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to be able to upload your own music to the game,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: so you could have it customer. Yeah, at least well
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: on when I say, oh, when I'm talking about twenty fourteen,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: not twenty two thousand and five, a whole ten years
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: after years. But no, you used to be able to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: upload your own music, so you'd pop your CD in,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you'd you know, download whatever the songs from your CD were,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: or you're if you had a flashtribe with MP three's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you could do the MP three pile on your PS
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: three or Xbox three sixty and then you could customize
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: like when the user scores a touchdown, this song plays,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: or when on a first down, like there's a whole
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: long list it could. You could really customize the entire
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: game almost and it was kind of neat because you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: could do specific songs, two specific teams as well.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: It wasn't just one for all.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So the one, the one that I never did that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I thought would be hilarious to do was if you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: had the Navy using the Village Peoples in the Navy
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: every time they scored a touchdown, that would be a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: funny one, but I never believe it or not. I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: never had a CD with the of the village people,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: so I could never never do that. So that's the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: bonus I'll say is in addition to setting the atmosphere
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of like the elements and the time where possible, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: would always put my own stadium soundtracked in to make
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the game that much more fun for me at least
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: my friends did not find it enjoyable, that's it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And then you might get a kick out of this too.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So my my nephew, he came over, I guess I
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: have been days ago, and we played NFL Blitz.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Uh so, not much in terms of the.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Elements, but completely a different type of gameplay.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Man, it was good, good time.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: But it was cool to kind of see him he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: only like nine years old but enjoying the game basically
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: when we were nine years old when that came out.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: How innovative that was.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and for being a Steelers fan at the time too,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: having Cordell Stewart on the cover and then because you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: only have like four or five people on each side
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of the ball, So you're your Steelers team was Cordell
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Stewart and Jerome Bettis that was that was sick.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, then I actually played him. He was the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: he was the Bengals, I was the Steelers.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I loved that bonhom of course, you know you can
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: go crying to his mama after the Steelers beat him. Yeah,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: but now it's uh, it was fun.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cordell was good time bus definitely.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Help me out.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: So yep, all right, cool, Well we've kind of been
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: through everything I had on the agenda for tonight. Was
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: there anything else you wanted to talk through before we
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: sign off for the evening?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. All right, well that works for me.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We can sign off and wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty four. For the world famous
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: accountants Eric Vanminschutin, I'm Nick de Tulio and this has
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: been another episode of the GameHouse dot Com Steelers Country Weekly.