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"Who is the Manhunter?" LANTERNS REVIEW: Episodes 3 and 4 · May The Review Be With You

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to May the Review be with you
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  Speaker 1: with Nick and Joe. I'm Joe.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Nick.
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  Speaker 3: And today we are talking about Lanterns, episodes three and four.
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  Speaker 3: We're just coming off watching the fourth episode titled The Weenie.
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  Speaker 3: Episode three is titled Outcast. So yeah, we just wanted
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  Speaker 3: to kind of talk about we're midway through Lanterns now
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  Speaker 3: and really awesome show so far.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're really enjoying it.
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  Speaker 3: The first two episodes we loved and I think episode
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  Speaker 3: three was kind of like taking a step back from
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the crazy action and all these other
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  Speaker 3: plot building that was going on. And we actually got
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  Speaker 3: a backstory for Jon Stewart and how he became this backup,
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  Speaker 3: if you will, for Hal Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, Joe, kick us off. What are you thinking?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so actually what you're hitting on there with episode
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  Speaker 1: three being our backstory, that's actually like a very formulaic,
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  Speaker 1: way for comic book writers to write their comic stories.
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  Speaker 1: Usually trades come in comic chapters of six, six to eight,
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  Speaker 1: usually six. And the first two chapters, our first two
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  Speaker 1: issues are stories where the action is going. And then
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  Speaker 1: when we get to issue three, issue three is really
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  Speaker 1: where we get background, backstory. And this show seems to
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  Speaker 1: be following in that same exact comic formula, which is
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  Speaker 1: Pretty cool. But yeah, Outcast gives us the backstory of
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  Speaker 1: Jon Stewart Jr. And we get to learn a lot
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  Speaker 1: more about Jon Stewart Sr. And the story of how
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  Speaker 1: the ring was supposed to go to Jon Stewart Sr.
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  Speaker 1: first before Hal Jordan. Now this is interesting for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. I think the first being that
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  Speaker 1: Jon Stewart's backstory in the comics is never really explained
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  Speaker 1: in great detail. And the showrunners were explaining in the
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes that this was really a chance to
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  Speaker 1: define a more legitimate backstory for Jon Stewart than the
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  Speaker 1: comics have otherwise given him. And I think it's really
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  Speaker 1: interesting that they managed to intertwine Jon's father with the
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  Speaker 1: origins of Hal Jordan, right? That Hal Jordan is really
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  Speaker 1: the second choice. Now, I know that that must make
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  Speaker 1: some Hal Jordan fans truthers out there very angry i
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  Speaker 1: personally think it's a very interesting way to tell this
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  Speaker 1: particular story and i think it's a great way to
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  Speaker 1: intertwine john and hal's like story their destiny together right
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  Speaker 1: to make these like two guys like their paths just
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  Speaker 1: keep intertwining throughout their lives like this isn't even the
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  Speaker 1: last time right before they meet as as uh as
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  Speaker 1: beat cops together we'll see that in Jon Stewart Jr's journey,
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  Speaker 1: Hal ends up interfering with his progress toward becoming a
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  Speaker 1: Lantern down the road. So yeah, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting and ambitious way to tie these two
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  Speaker 1: characters together even further than they already were, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 3: And you just like brought up a huge question for
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  Speaker 3: me with that explanation about how Hal was maybe not
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  Speaker 3: the first choice. But Hal's predecessor was Sinestro, correct?
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  Speaker 1: So his teacher, his teacher was Sinestro. Abansur was. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Was his predecessor.
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  Speaker 2: Was his predecessor, but Abansur died.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't he give, how does, see what I want
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  Speaker 3: to know is like, how does that process work when
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  Speaker 3: he's dying and he picks Hal? Like was Hal, but
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  Speaker 3: wasn't Hal there when he died?
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  Speaker 1: So Hal's there when he dies. However, as he's dying,
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  Speaker 1: at least the way the story is told, the ring
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  Speaker 1: is looking for candidates to replace Albin Sur as he
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  Speaker 1: is dying. So if you remember in the Jon Stewart flashback,
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  Speaker 1: we actually kind of get to see through Junior's eyes
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  Speaker 1: that the ring brings his dad into a bubble and
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  Speaker 1: asks him, are you afraid? Senior says yes. And then
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  Speaker 1: it moves on toward other candidates, presumably more than just
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  Speaker 1: John and Hal. Right. And Hal is just the first
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  Speaker 1: person who said, I'm not afraid. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: There's just, it feels like a lot happening in the
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  Speaker 3: moments where Abin Sur is dying. And it made me
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  Speaker 3: kind of question like, you know, from the guardian that
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  Speaker 3: we've met who is interviewing John, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, like we only have that guardian as an example.
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  Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying is, I'm assuming, and we're assuming
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  Speaker 3: that that's an actual guardian and not like some big
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  Speaker 3: elaborate plot to trick the Stewart family.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, right. Liana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cause there was a moment in.
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  Speaker 3: The fourth episode where, and we're not, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to jump ahead, but in the fourth episode where it
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, if it's not Zoe and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: it's Will Macon, but like, doesn't feel right. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: Is this guardian who interviewed John, has been grooming him
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  Speaker 3: his whole life, actually the Manhunter?
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  Speaker 2: And it's just like all an act? Which I think
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  Speaker 2: is a little far-fetched with what we know now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we had a guess in our last episode covering Lanterns,
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  Speaker 1: episode one and two, of who the Manhunter was. And
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  Speaker 1: the obvious answer was Will Macon, the person who is
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  Speaker 1: overseeing the ranch, right? But our guess was actually Zoe,
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  Speaker 1: his wife, is the Manhunter. And we'll get into... That
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  Speaker 1: in a moment, as far as the revelations that we
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  Speaker 1: got in episode four. But just to continue to press
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  Speaker 1: episode three, we get our backstory on the Guardian, Liana,
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  Speaker 1: interviewing Jon Stewart Jr. for the job. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we come to find out that the Guardians approached Jon's mother,
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  Speaker 1: wanting to give compensation for the emotional trauma that they've
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  Speaker 1: given humans who were tested in traditional Guardian ways. And
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  Speaker 1: this kind of... This... creates a conversation, a dialogue between
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  Speaker 1: the guardian and John's mom that maybe that John Stewart Jr.
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  Speaker 1: could be a worthy candidate if he was raised to
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  Speaker 1: never know fear because the guardians, their test does not
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  Speaker 1: take into the perspective of different cultures on earth. That
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  Speaker 1: of the black experience, especially here in America and the
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  Speaker 1: way that she describes it, the way that they have
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  Speaker 1: to constantly live with fear. I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation, Nick, that could actually have more
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  Speaker 1: implications down the road. So right now, the way that
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about what makes a Green Lantern
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  Speaker 1: right now, because the way the show presents it is
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  Speaker 1: a Green Lantern is someone who is fearless, right? And
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  Speaker 1: that's why it doesn't pick Jon Stewart Sr. Because he says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid when he's asked the question. Or he says, yes, right?
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  Speaker 1: Later in the future of the Green Lanterns, I presume
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  Speaker 1: if we get far enough in the James Gunn universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will probably meet a very popular Green Lantern. She's
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  Speaker 1: recently come into play in the Superman cartoon that has
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  Speaker 1: been coming out of DC Studios, which if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it, it's a great show. Love what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: in that show. This character recently made an appearance. Her
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  Speaker 1: name is Jessica Cruz. And the reason why I bring
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  Speaker 1: up Jessica Cruz is she is a Green Lantern character
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  Speaker 1: who is afraid, right? That's her thing. She's always afraid
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  Speaker 1: and she's so scared and she doesn't really even understand
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  Speaker 1: why the lantern chose her, right? But her, like for Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: like her thing is she, despite being so scared, she
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  Speaker 1: demonstrates a tremendous amount of courage, right? She is like
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  Speaker 1: this person who demonstrates this insane amount of bravery despite
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  Speaker 1: the fact that she is afraid. Right. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: makes her worthy of having the ring. The ring kind
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  Speaker 1: of adjusts to Jessica because of the courage that outweighs
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  Speaker 1: the fear. Right. So the reason why I bring this
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  Speaker 1: up is so Jon Stewart Sr. kind of shows us, OK,
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  Speaker 1: if you have fear, the ring is going to overlook you.
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  Speaker 1: But perhaps in time and maybe in time of this show,
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  Speaker 1: not saying Jessica Cruz is going to show up. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying perhaps we will see the ring change how it
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  Speaker 1: chooses whoever will hold it. Right. The next lantern.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not just the ring that chooses.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly not, because the Guardians are making certain choices
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  Speaker 1: here too, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right. They're going through interviews. They're trying to pick their candidate, right?
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  Speaker 3: And now they've groomed Jon along with Jon's family, which
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  Speaker 3: is brilliant and brutal and heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 2: And cool all at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: And so manipulative.
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  Speaker 2: So manipulative, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like, especially in episode four, we get to
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  Speaker 1: see the, the guardians really seem to have an agenda
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  Speaker 1: in removing Hal as a, as a, as a lantern. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And like, so it just brings up the question, like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you actually pick a guardian and who actually
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  Speaker 3: picks the guardian?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Because what we've found out now, it's like based on
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  Speaker 3: episode four, the implication is if you just put the
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  Speaker 3: ring on your hand and then you say the, say
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  Speaker 3: the words, then you're a lantern. So yeah, you don't
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  Speaker 3: need all this training and you don't even need to
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  Speaker 3: necessarily be fearless. If you get a ring and say
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  Speaker 3: the oath on your, at the same time, based on
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  Speaker 3: what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Or do you have this, do you have to have
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  Speaker 3: permission from the guardians to say the oath with the
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  Speaker 3: ring on?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you gave me the ring and I said it,
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  Speaker 3: would it, you know, would I be a lantern or
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  Speaker 3: do it? Does the, do the guardians have to like
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  Speaker 3: sign off on it still, which I would imagine they
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  Speaker 3: don't have to sign off on it. If, Because you
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  Speaker 3: would think if they don't like Hal Jordan now, they
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  Speaker 3: probably didn't like him before. So why did they allow
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  Speaker 3: it before if they actually had a say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because Hal seems to be pretty consistent in the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he's a rule breaker.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of open questions on how this
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  Speaker 3: version of the lantern is like, how you actually get
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  Speaker 3: picked to be a great lantern.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. If there is a
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  Speaker 1: difference in the way that... Hal received the ring versus
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  Speaker 1: how John thinks the ring should be given, right? So
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  Speaker 1: Hal receives the ring because it chooses him after he
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  Speaker 1: says he's not afraid, right? John, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: has been groomed his entire life and trained to receive
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  Speaker 1: the ring. And John, in episode four, when talking to
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  Speaker 1: a guardian about this, he mentions that that's what makes
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  Speaker 1: him worthy of the ring, the fact that he earned it, right?
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  Speaker 1: I will say, John seems to think that there is
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  Speaker 1: a choice in what he has done, right? That he
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  Speaker 1: chooses to honor his parents, right? By, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: their sacrifice, by, you know, working to get this ring
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  Speaker 1: that he's worked so hard for. But similarly to John,
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  Speaker 1: or to Hal rather, similarly to Hal, this has been
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  Speaker 1: chosen for him So Hal was chosen by the ring.
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  Speaker 1: John was chosen by his parents. John's parents chose him
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  Speaker 1: to do this. This wasn't really John's own choice. So
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  Speaker 1: do you think that there's a difference is what I'm asking?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yes, only because his parents don't have the
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  Speaker 3: power of the ring.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying it's a difference of authority.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The ring has its own governing body. Whatever that
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  Speaker 2: might be.
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  Speaker 3: Whether it's the guardians or the power of the ring
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  Speaker 3: within itself to pick the right candidate. Right now, all
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  Speaker 3: the things that Jon Stewart's done and everything we've learned
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  Speaker 3: about him, he seems like someone who would of course
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  Speaker 3: be worthy. I mean, his drawing skills alone, which we
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  Speaker 3: get to see more of an episode three and then
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  Speaker 3: a lot in episode four as well. It's a really
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  Speaker 3: cool addition to the, to the character in the show,
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  Speaker 3: seeing these like, Oh, you know how talented he is
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  Speaker 3: with drawing. And then the scene in episode four where
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  Speaker 3: he draws the drill machine and right like and then
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  Speaker 3: creates it with the ring it's like that's a really
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  Speaker 3: awesome way to just like give you some more context
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  Speaker 3: on like how talented he is not just in military
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  Speaker 3: capabilities but just being an artist and being creative right
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  Speaker 3: and there's a joke in there too about he's like
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  Speaker 3: oh i'm creative you know didn't you know i was
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  Speaker 3: creative or whatever and so these are like really cool
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  Speaker 3: moments to like get you even more intrigued about like
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  Speaker 3: this character and we're what's what's next for him and
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  Speaker 3: makes you feel like he's definitely worthy because like I
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  Speaker 3: can't draw a drill and then, you know, like that's
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  Speaker 3: just drawing it in general is impressive.
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  Speaker 2: So, so, so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, creative and a fantastic artist, but he also,
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  Speaker 1: he seems to have such a, a strong understanding of
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  Speaker 1: how things work, right. Of the inner machinations of things.
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  Speaker 1: Cause it's like one thing to draw a drill. It's
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  Speaker 1: another thing to understand how a drill works. Right. So
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  Speaker 1: like he, he not only has like an artist's mind,
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  Speaker 1: he seems to have an engineer's mind too, which only
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  Speaker 1: makes it more impressive. He's curious.
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  Speaker 3: Like he looked, he said he looked up, he looked
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  Speaker 3: up the machine and then drew it, you know, after
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  Speaker 3: doing the research.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So he's very curious about how to like do the
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  Speaker 3: best he can.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Which, I mean, that's part of his training from
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  Speaker 2: his upbringing too.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They were different. They really did groom him very well.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to, who else could you possibly pick?
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  Speaker 1: I bet the grooming is, is tough for me because like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that they were pushing him to like rise
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  Speaker 1: above and be the best, but man, this parenting was questionable. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I will say perhaps they introduced him to William tell
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  Speaker 1: just a little too early in life because we do
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  Speaker 1: get the backstory of an episode one, or we get
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  Speaker 1: some context as to why his father was shooting an
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  Speaker 1: apple off of his head to train him to not
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  Speaker 1: be afraid. Nick, When they turned it around and he
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  Speaker 1: was shooting the apple off of his mom's head, I
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  Speaker 1: thought for sure she was a goner. I thought for
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  Speaker 1: sure this woman is about to eat it.
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  Speaker 3: I did too, but it was because in the first
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  Speaker 3: two episodes, we had only seen flashbacks with his father,
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  Speaker 3: and it made me think that he was a single
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  Speaker 3: father raising three kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that this was maybe part of the reason that
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  Speaker 3: he was so tough on the third child, the youngest boy, right?
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  Speaker 3: It was just like trying to make him really tough
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  Speaker 3: and fearless just because he was.
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  Speaker 2: A single father.
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  Speaker 3: And then in this back story of episode three in Outcast,
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  Speaker 3: you realize that actually the mother's really the navigator of
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  Speaker 3: this whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: She's the pilot. She's the one taking us to our destination. Right.
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  Speaker 2: She's the reason. And you realize, oh, no, he grew
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  Speaker 2: up with both parents. And this is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And then when he does the William Tell with her,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, shoot.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it wasn't like, oh, she might survive.
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  Speaker 3: It might be like maybe there's an accident because the
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  Speaker 3: way that they portrayed at the very beginning in the
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  Speaker 3: first two episodes, again, it made me think that she
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  Speaker 3: wasn't around.
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  Speaker 1: Right. This was such a good storytelling move because, as
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  Speaker 1: you said, we were only familiar with the dad and
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  Speaker 1: then we come to the backstory and we get this
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  Speaker 1: moment because there's a moment where he's going to shoot
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  Speaker 1: the apple off of his father's head. We know dad
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  Speaker 1: can't die just because of the timeline. Right. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: we don't know about mom. So it creates like this
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  Speaker 1: great suspense of, oh, my God, is she actually going
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  Speaker 1: to die here? Yeah. And then, you know, the reveal. No,
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  Speaker 1: she does not die. And she is a driving force
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  Speaker 1: throughout John's life.
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  Speaker 3: And that scene after he shoots it off off her
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  Speaker 3: head is also when we learn that he doesn't like hamburgers.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Well, we also we also learn. Yeah. This
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  Speaker 1: is why he's a vegan. Right. Right. We also learn
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  Speaker 1: the significance of the bird from episode two, which he
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  Speaker 1: was able to construct a life form, which still like crazy, right?
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  Speaker 1: But why a bird? You know, it was kind of a,
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  Speaker 1: I would venture to say it was almost like a
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  Speaker 1: third parent or at least like a third supervisor in
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  Speaker 1: his life because he always believed from his mother's stories
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  Speaker 1: that these were the guardians, right? And I, right. And
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  Speaker 1: I think even calling them guardians, there's something parental about
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  Speaker 1: that even, right? Like this is like the third parent
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  Speaker 1: in his life is the birds that are watching him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And then speaking of like the guardians always watching him,
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  Speaker 3: I know the actual interview scene in episode three is
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  Speaker 3: just a fantastic, like scene of dialogue between, between John
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  Speaker 3: and the guardian, right?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, how, how great of an actress is she?
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  Speaker 2: Just, Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: She's so creepy. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, very creepy.
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  Speaker 3: I have a, we were talking about this already about like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you choose a lantern or whatever, but they
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  Speaker 3: have like, there was a question in, I think John
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  Speaker 3: asked her and correct me if I'm wrong, but he
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  Speaker 3: asked her like, why, why were you interviewing when rings
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  Speaker 3: choose lanterns? And the response was because of condolences, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't like, which was like a, I don't remember
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  Speaker 3: the context.
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  Speaker 1: Of, Yeah, so she mentions, what do you know about Sinestro?
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  Speaker 1: And this reveals a little bit of backstory that Sinestro
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  Speaker 1: had killed one of the Guardians, to which he says, well,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: my condolences. And then later, further down this conversation, when
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: they ask about, you know, why are you interviewing? This
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: is when she responds with, because of your condolences, right?
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: So unclear if she is talking about because of how, like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: sincere of a person John is, right? That he would
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: offer his condolences to this alien, right? Who he does
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: not know. Or, and what I believe to be more likely,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: because of the perhaps political situation that the Guardians find
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: themselves in regarding Sinestro and his relationship with Hal Jordan, right?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Got it. That makes sense.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: At least I think that's supposed to be the inference there. Yeah, okay.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Man, I can't wait to get more details on maybe
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: there's more than one way you can choose a green
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: lantern though right I guess it doesn't have to just
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: be one way so.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: See I keep waiting for that I keep waiting for
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: them to both get two rings right but I don't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: know the further we get into this show the more
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I feel there will be two rings but we already
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: know that 10 years from this incident 2026 John doesn't
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: appear to have a ring Hal definitely doesn't have a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: ring and he's dead unless John does have a ring
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because we didn't get to see it maybe.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: So someone's from our one of our previous shorts from
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: the from the last couple episodes commented on the 2026
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: dead hal jordan that didn't have his ring and was
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: like what if that was his backup how jordan's backup.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: From the ring oh like the hologram yeah like a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: hologram that's interesting because all right i don't know if
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: i buy that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Because like i don't i know it's it's very far-fetched
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: but it was a very i loved the point i
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: was like that's kind of cool I.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Do, too, because I feel like the hologram has to
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: come back at some point.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And we have to find out why there hasn't been
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: another backup in over 10 years. Yeah, it's crazy. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that's definitely going to come back. So I like that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they're thinking in that way. My only issue with it is, well,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I guess it's twofold. The first is he would have
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to back himself up dead, which, like, I think of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the scary movie joke, how do you wake up dead, right?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: And the other issue is, well, there was a it
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: appeared that there was a bullet in his head or
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: there was at least blood coming from his head. Right.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I think you're right about the blood. I don't know
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: if it was.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So like, right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, most likely not a backup, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a fun theory.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: He's coping. That's hard copium that Hal Jordan's not dead,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but Hal appears to be dead. At least that's what
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the show is telling me. Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: He's most likely very dead in 2026.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I love, I love where that guy is at though.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I love the copium. Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It's so fun.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Anything else from three, episode three, you want to mention?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the parenting that, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: both parents are just putting everything on Hal. We learned,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: not Hal, sorry, on John, but we also learned right
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: off the get-go that Hal is like just a few, man.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: right right when as soon as they meet he just
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: does not appear to be on board with john which he.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Ruins he ruins john stewart getting to tell his parents
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: that he got that he got the job like.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah like the one happy moment he was looking forward
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to in his life yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Like he doesn't even get the, Oh, we're so proud
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: of you moment. Then he just, it's all ruined immediately
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and see in the morning and so ridiculous. And of course,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: how Jordan, we find out is the reason that he
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: gets like disarmerably discharged from the military as well.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yes. They can bring that back up.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's actually all the things that hell's done
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to his family.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: It's actually kind of wild that he has second thoughts
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: or a reservation about saying the oath when he gets
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: the ring the first time after talking to the guardians
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and that they'd tell him to do it. Like, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: he has this, he like, there's something about Hal Jordan
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that he respects and he doesn't want to take the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: ring that way.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: He wants to do it the right way.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: And I mean, which I, I respect that completely, but it's, it,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: he gets himself into a problem because then in episode.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Four, well, him before you, before you, before you jump,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I just want to bring this up because I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you're right. He's Hal's really kind of ruined John's life,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: or at least he's defined it. Right. He's defined John's life.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And you're right. Like he, you would think he bears
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: this sort of resentment toward him. And maybe there's like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a small bit of that that we hear from later,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: but like, you're right overall, he just seems to really
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: respect the guy. Right. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So very interesting. What's going to happen next.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Because he has this opportunity to say the oath. He's
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: been given the keys by the Guardians. He's like, next
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: time you wear the ring, say the oath, and you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the lantern of this earth.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Right, right. So this is episode four, The Weenie, which,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: amazing title. As you were saying, we get a conversation
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: between Jon and Lyanna, the Guardian, and she's saying to him,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: just take the ring. Next time you get it, say
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the oath, you're Green Lantern. And Jon's a little miffed
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: by this, man. He doesn't want to take it. He
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: wants to be given it, right? He wants to be
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: rewarded for his hard work, everything that he's been working toward, right?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to just take it. Like, he's already, like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: he's proven to himself that he's worthy. Jon knows he's worthy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: He just wants to be acknowledged for it, right?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and he's been groomed this whole time to say, like, yes,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I accept, not, like, let me rip it from out underneath.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Someone, right?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: He's been.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's the chain of command.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You're right, chain of command, exactly.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: So.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It's very interesting.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: There's that scene.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So this scene is mirrored with Sinestro and Hal, right?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And very intentionally, because both of these conversations are happening
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: behind the other one's back, right? So Sinestro is telling Hal,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you got to kill John. The Guardian is telling John,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you have to betray Hal, right? So they're both playing
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: each other. And what I find more interesting about that is...
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the game being played between the Guardian and Sinestro, right?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Because Sinestro tried to lead a coup against the Guardians.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: The Guardians clearly got some shady shit going on, right?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And we still, at least in this show, we still
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: haven't learned a lot about that yet. So, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Jon may be trying to play by the rules, but
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: as soon as the Guardian introduces a little bit of
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: shadiness toward him, he's not so sure he wants to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: play by their rules anymore, right? And as far as
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Hal goes, he's not super interested in listening to his
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: former mentor and killing this guy. Right. Cause he, he
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be replaced, but he kind of likes John. Yeah. Yes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: But then the end of episode four leads you to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: believe like, but because you know, how at the end
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: of episode four leaves the car crashes into a pole
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: with John in it. Of course, this is after how
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Jordan is made aware of the conversation between the guardian
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and between John about him taking the ring from him.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And again, you know, I'm sure how it doesn't know who,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: if he can fully trust him at this point, if
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: even if he did before now, he has to like
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: really think about it. And so the end of episode four,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: John is in a car crash and we don't know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You know, what happens next. Most likely he's okay.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But so, but for the record, I mean, this only
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: happens after Hal is made aware of the conversation that
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: John and the guardian have behind Hal's back. Right.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And I, I do think that there is like, a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: little bit of betrayal there, or perhaps, you know, he
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: starts to think, well, maybe Sinestro was right about this guy. Right.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I do have to get rid of John. Yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what though, I am, I'm with
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: you on the whole, like something shady with the guardians.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Cause the vibe from her is strange. And, but the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: vibe from Sinestro is also strange. So I, and I,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: you know, the lore much, you know, I don't know
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: the lanterns lore. So I'm very interested in this to
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: find out like, what's the shady shit that's going on.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Cause it's not all roses and the, the guardian world.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: There's something weird.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And part of me, like man, man, hunter wise, like
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: it looks like Zoe is the man hunter. And it
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: looks like we call that correctly.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So like, I like the man hunter. No, we're supposed
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: to be scared.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I'm super torn on this. So Zoe has a confession
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to John. That seems like she is confessing that she's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the man hunter. At least it, it seems to go
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: with a story that will make an, was telling us, right?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: That the Manhunter saved his life. Zoe, in a separate conversation, says,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I saved his life, right? Then Zoe is destroyed, seemingly,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: by a laser from the sky, right? And what makes
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: me doubt our guess, and like, all signs point to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: her being the Manhunter, right? All signs. What makes me
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: doubt it is the fact that Hal said it. Hal's like, well,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: there's no way she could have survived unless she was
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the Manhunter. And so now I'm like, well, is that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the show telling us, like, that she's definitely not the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Manhunter or is this going to be a situation where
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: she is the Manhunter and Hal's going to be like, see,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I told you just like in episode one with like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the alien, right? Like, see, I was right. He is
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: an alien. Like, is that what's going to happen? I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. They're making me second guess it now.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: No, I think, I think it was pretty clear at
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the end of that episode that Zoe's the Manhunter.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And well, then we're really smart. Cause we called that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, we did for a moment there. I was like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it is Will Macon, you know, when, when they're, when they.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Go to the, Oh yeah, that was BS.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The slaughterhouse. And they're talking to this, this, the tech guy.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And like, and obviously very quickly, like we find out
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that this guy's just been placed there.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: He's not actually a Manhunter. And then he says, we'll
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: make it. And we're like, I don't know. It doesn't feel,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't, it's like, he's like, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it is. We'll make it or whatever. Like what?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And then their conversation in the car, you find out
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: like how's pieces of stuff together. And John Stewart, you know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: him not being upset that she was dead. Which like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he didn't know her that well,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if he should be sad, sad,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: but I guess maybe he should have a little bit
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: of sadness. So, but what I want to know is
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: how John knew she didn't die in the car.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The gut feeling. Yeah. What was that about? Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Very interesting.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I think at least a bit in
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: episode four, it's pretty clear. It's Zoe, which is, which
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: is cool. Cause we called that, but two, I kind
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: of liked that for the story. just to see what
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: happens next.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: So Nick, we only have a couple of, or a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: few episodes left, right? We're at the halfway mark. My
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: question is, where do you think we go from here?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, we already got to the compound. We found
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: out that, you know, the Manhunter technology is indeed the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: technology that's being held over there. We got to this
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: compound a little sooner than I thought we would. The
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: only other prediction I have is a Hal Jordan backstory episode. Mm-hmm.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in which we get to actually see what happened with
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Albin Sur and Hal in that actual question, right? Because
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I suspect that there is more to that. And perhaps
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: if Zoe is indeed the Manhunter, as she appears to be,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: perhaps we get a bit of a backstory there too.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I would love a Hal Jordan backstory episode. I think
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: we all would.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: And they just gave us one on Jon Stewart. So
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: it kind of feels like one of the last four
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: episodes could very well be a Hal Jordan backstory episode.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: which would be very cool.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Something leading to his death, at least.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we might not, depending on how many
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: seasons there are, we might not have the resolve there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong in thinking that in the preview of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the entire season, we saw Nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner? I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like 99% sure we did, right?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We'd have to go back and watch it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he's in one
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: of the images after episode one of like, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: this season on lanterns, like I'm pretty sure his dumb
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: bowl cut shows up. So like it's sooner or later,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like that's going to be addressed. Like why guy is
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the green lantern.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: It just feels, if that's the case, it feels very
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: out of place for me just because the last time
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: we saw guy Gardner was in the Superman movie, which
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: is a much brighter overall film as far as the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: look of it. Like this is such a true detective
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: vibe that like, I feel like if you throw Guy
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Gardner's goofy ass into this show, it's going to completely
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: flip it upside down. And I don't know, I'm not
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: going to know what's going on anymore. I, I, I.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Think it could work. I think it can work the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: same way that like, if you think of Spider-Man brand
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: new day and Frank Castle being in Spider-Man, right?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Like you got this like hardened man in this, like
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: otherwise like bright and optimistic movie. And like, they tone
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: him down like a smidge, just a smidge, right? They
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: didn't totally make him, not a hardened bad dude, right? Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: But he's toned down. I could see it going the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: other way with God. right? Like his personality could be
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: pretty brutal, right? Like you just toned down the goofiness
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit, right? I think it could gel, especially
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with John and the way that John is such a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: stick in the mud. Like those two could bounce together
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: pretty well. At least I personally think so.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: One question I wanted to ask you about the compound
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: when they, when they make it in the compound, right
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: before the alarm, well, after the alarm goes off and
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: like the, the guys.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Come in to apprehend them and they use like, they
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: use darkness, I think is what Hal says.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Do you like, they just like figured out how to
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: bottle darkness and like, does that keep the ring from
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: working basically is what it seemed like is, is the
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: power of that weapon they created. Um, Cause that's like
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: very interesting.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I took from that is that, yeah, it's, it's darkness. Right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And it completely like takes away from their senses, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I think there's like almost a certain fear to it. Right.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And if you hear them, like if you're listening to them,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: they're both kind of panicking, you know, Hal says, use
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the ring. And John's like, it's not working. Right. I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: think that it introduces a sense of panic to them
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that temporarily cripples their ability to create constructs or to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: communicate with the ring. Right. That's my theory.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was super interesting.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: The scene that immediately follows was disturbing and weird and
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: completely hilarious as well.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. Will Macon wanted a nude drawing of himself
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: just to see how good John actually is.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what the hell?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Is one of the stranger scenes I've seen in any
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: superhero content ever.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was super, super strange. It was funny, but
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: it was just like, what are we doing?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, John, you're going to tell me
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Guy Gardner couldn't be in this scene. He can't be
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: in this show, Nick. Guy Gardner couldn't do it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: He can't, he can't, but you know, I don't know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It's just like, honestly, I hate his fricking bowl cut.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: His bowl cut does not work in any show or
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: any movie or any nothing. Like, Guy Gardner needs a haircut.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: You heard it here first.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, that just means you can't be in the Justice Gang,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: all right?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the Justice Gang.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I'd rather be a citizen of Metropolis that might get
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: a building dropped on him than be in the Justice Gang.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That is, your words are cutting, unlike that haircut. So
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: we'll move on from here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Speaking of haircuts, anyway, you need one.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I think that's all my points from episode four.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Did you have anything that you really loved or really
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: didn't like before we close out the episode?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: The slaughtering of the cow. When we stormed the compound,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: there is a cow that is slaughtered with superior Manhunter technology.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And while efficient, that cow was exceptionally cute, which they
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: did on purpose. And I really kind of resent them
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for that. That almost made me want to be a vegetarian.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But the key phrase there, Joe, is almost.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Almost. I mean, dude, I mean, listen, I have all
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the respect in the world for anyone who goes vegetarian, vegan.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It's not in me, man. I'm sorry. I love me
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a good burger.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Anything else off the top of your head? What do
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: you think happened next to end the episode?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Where are we going?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the show is called Lanterns. At some point,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: We're getting two rings. Just because there was no ring
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: on Hal's hand in 2026 doesn't mean there was no
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: ring on John's hand. You feel me? So two rings
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: on these boys at some point. We're working together. Lanterns.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Well, my friends, that's a review. Thanks for listening.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Please let us know in the comments what you think
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: about episodes three and four of Lanterns.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Follow us on YouTube.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Hit that subscribe button. And until next time, friends.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: May the review be with you.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Peace.