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Modern Dating vs Biblical Courting · Relationship Talk Thursday

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Inspiration thirteen ninety favely, how y'all doing today?
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Speaker 1: It is Relationship Talk Thursday. The Power Couple is back
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Speaker 1: Pastors Javone and Pastor Erica Glenn of New Life Executive
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Speaker 1: pastors or over the Marriage Ministry.
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Speaker 2: And I found out that Lady Erica can sing, so
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Speaker 2: you never he might bust tart to notice something.
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Speaker 1: I don't know it.
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Speaker 2: But we're supposed to be talking about relationships. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Somebody just told me that.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're talking about modern dating versus biblical courting.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that it seems like things have changed, you know,
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Speaker 1: Folks are a little.
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Speaker 2: Bit more looser.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and more looser, much looser, and uh, you know
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Speaker 1: in this particular area. So what is the difference and
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Speaker 1: where does sex fit in and all of this?
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know there is a difference. First of all,
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Speaker 3: I wasn't a dater. My wife was a dater. Then
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Speaker 3: she informed me dating is collecting.
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Speaker 2: Data, collected out, collected information.
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Speaker 3: But I think in my space and time, and I
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Speaker 3: was a youth pastor early on in ministry, I just
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Speaker 3: had to protect the casualness of going out with women, right.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to protect myself.
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Speaker 3: So I was very very no, I'm not dating, very
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Speaker 3: you know, consecrated, very separated, and just didn't want to
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Speaker 3: get caught up in any situations. Before I got saved.
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Speaker 3: In my teenage years, I was promiscuous. So coming out
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Speaker 3: of a promiscuous lifestyle to salvation, I was trying to
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Speaker 3: do it God's way. So in doing it God's way,
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Speaker 3: then I was practicing abstinence. So because I was coming
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Speaker 3: out of promiscuity into abstinence, and then dating would only
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Speaker 3: complicate that because I didn't know if I had the
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Speaker 3: discipline to manage dating without promiscurity when I was trying
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Speaker 3: to kill my flesh from having an appetite before I
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Speaker 3: was saved, and so therefore I just was like, you know,
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Speaker 3: I shut the whole thing down. Nothing, nobody, everybody untease
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Speaker 3: Grandma's I got a girl, I got a niece I
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Speaker 3: want you to meet.
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Speaker 4: I got a granddaughter. Thats one.
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Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not ready to marry yet,
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Speaker 3: so I'm not interested. I'm focused on God and focused
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Speaker 3: on minutes. That was my path. Whereas my wife was
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Speaker 3: a dater because you know, she had a little bit
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Speaker 3: more disciplined than me.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, but that wasn't me.
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Speaker 3: So until I was ready to what I say, pay
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Speaker 3: the bill or ready to follow up through marriage, and
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Speaker 3: I didn't even consider courting as an opportunity because at
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Speaker 3: that point I only wanted to be in a relationship
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Speaker 3: with somebody that I could potentially.
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Speaker 4: Marry, and I didn't want to waste my time.
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Speaker 3: And I think people would heal faster and waste less
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Speaker 3: time if they only, at least if we're going to date,
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Speaker 3: at least only entertain people who are potential marriage candidates
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Speaker 3: and not just let me just feel and see what's
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Speaker 3: out here and see what's going on. That's how people
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Speaker 3: get hurt. That's how they get in rhythms and routines
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Speaker 3: and patterns and brokenness and leave pieces of their self
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Speaker 3: all over the place and never really gather themselves back together.
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Speaker 3: So I potentially practice courting biblical cording with that knowledge
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Speaker 3: and information over casual dating because of my own convictions,
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Speaker 3: because it's right or wrong, not because it's a principle,
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Speaker 3: but because that's a preference. Now Biblically, in biblical days,
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Speaker 3: they do have preferences to that, I mean principles to
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Speaker 3: that that say you should not do such. But I
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Speaker 3: think that there's grace for people who trying to get
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Speaker 3: to know each other in that space. But that's just
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Speaker 3: not my that's not my approach from my own protection.
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Speaker 5: OK, I think that I think that dating isn't bad.
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Speaker 5: I think that it is a seasons of your life.
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Speaker 5: So as a teenager, I'm trying to find I won't
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Speaker 5: say I'm trying to find myself, but I was, but
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Speaker 5: I you know, in retrospect looking at it, I think
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Speaker 5: that you know, it is very it's dangerous. It is
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Speaker 5: it could be dangerous if you're not accountable to anybody,
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Speaker 5: if nobody is talking to you, talking to you about
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Speaker 5: who you're talking to, and all that other kind of stuff,
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Speaker 5: it could be it could take you down the road
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Speaker 5: that you don't want to go to. And then I
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Speaker 5: think in my twenties it was really dating to you know,
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Speaker 5: see if this is a person that I would want
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Speaker 5: to build my life with and unfortunately stay in relationships
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Speaker 5: longer than what I needed to afraid that I would
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Speaker 5: not find anybody. So you know, that's the detriments, right
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Speaker 5: a serial dater. And then I also feel that in dating,
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Speaker 5: quote unquote, in dating that when you add sex to
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Speaker 5: the formula of dating, it makes it complicated. You can't think,
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Speaker 5: you can't be sober, you can't make good decisions because
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Speaker 5: you you're talking about sex performance versus do they got
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Speaker 5: a job.
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Speaker 2: They you know, are they are a father?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 5: Are they a man that you could actually see that's
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Speaker 5: gonna raise your children? And then you know the yeah,
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Speaker 5: how they put it on you and then they put
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Speaker 5: it on you and then now you got a baby,
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Speaker 5: and now you mad because he's not a great father.
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Speaker 5: Well you didn't think about that before you before you
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Speaker 5: lay with them. So it's those kinds of things, and
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Speaker 5: so you know, I just think that dating has its
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Speaker 5: place in this space is gathering data. But when you
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Speaker 5: put sex in there, it makes the date the data
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Speaker 5: to be conduluting in a sense because you can't see
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Speaker 5: the data anymore. You're you're too busy about the performance
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Speaker 5: and you have these ties exactly, and then you know
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Speaker 5: when you're courting, cording is with intentionality. With intentionality means
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Speaker 5: that you're like, Okay, I don't want to have sex
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Speaker 5: because I want to be able to know this is
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Speaker 5: a person that I can be with. And so when
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Speaker 5: you're dating and you don't have sex, you can move
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Speaker 5: in and out of relationships because you don't have any ties.
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Speaker 5: But when you're when you're dating and having sex, then
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Speaker 5: you looking at him like why you talking to somebody else,
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Speaker 5: which there is nothing wrong with him talking to somebody else.
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Speaker 2: Because he's not married.
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Speaker 5: But if y'all had sex, now you really are married.
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Speaker 2: So now you are.
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Speaker 5: Looking at him like, how you're gonna get another wife? Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and that's where everybody becomes your of your marriage.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 2: We got to hold that thought.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we want to talk about the role of
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Speaker 1: physical intimacy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
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Speaker 4: That's that's great.
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Speaker 1: We tap it in today right here on Inspiration thirteen
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Speaker 1: ninety Relationship Talk Thursday. We also welcome your questions and
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Speaker 1: your comments. Let's do it eight five, five, nine, nine, nine,
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Speaker 1: thirteen ninety metal modern dating versus biblical courting. What's the
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Speaker 1: difference and where does sex fit in? We do talk
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Speaker 1: about that on this gospel station.
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Speaker 2: Inspiration thirteen to ninety Music of Power and Praise.
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Speaker 1: It's Sonia Blakey here with the Power Couple, Pastors Damone
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Speaker 1: and Erica Glenn, and we're talking about modern dating versus
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Speaker 1: biblical courting. We're talking about sex, where does it fit
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Speaker 1: in in the whole picture? And you all said something interesting.
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Speaker 1: I had never heard it that way. Sex marries you,
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Speaker 1: and I will also talk about because I've also heard
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Speaker 1: over the years that having sex also enter into a
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Speaker 1: is it so, so maybe that kind of ties in.
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Speaker 1: But sex marries you, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it consummates your marriage.
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Speaker 3: That's why when you get married, you get you now
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Speaker 3: and you go home and you consummate your marriage, because
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Speaker 3: it's really official, official, not after the paper, not after
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Speaker 3: the ceremony, it's official official after you had sex. If
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Speaker 3: you're in the original context of it, if everybody was
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Speaker 3: functioning biblically the way it was designed and created to
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Speaker 3: function biblically, and people were actually versions having sex, right,
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Speaker 3: so when sex takes place, a hymen would be broken,
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Speaker 3: which is a blood covenant that would end up taking place. Right,
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Speaker 3: that blood covenant would happen, and that's the consummation, that's
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Speaker 3: God's marrige, that's the wedding ring, that's the marriage vow,
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Speaker 3: that's the relationship. Is when that blood covenant is taking
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Speaker 3: place between two individuals. If people were actually entering into
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Speaker 3: it in that proper biblical context. So I think that
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Speaker 3: society and culture have lessen the seriousness of what sex
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Speaker 3: is and what it does. But we should have never
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Speaker 3: learned from sex from anybody other than the creator of sex,
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Speaker 3: which is God. God created sex to be enjoyed in
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Speaker 3: the context of a relationship, in the context of a marriage,
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Speaker 3: because it is powerful, It creates soul ties, It will
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Speaker 3: get your head messed up, it will make you not
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Speaker 3: be able to think straight, it will cause you to
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Speaker 3: lower your barer, to compromise.
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Speaker 4: It does all types of.
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Speaker 3: Things, and so necessary in a marriage, right, And that's
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Speaker 3: why one of the first things to go in a
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Speaker 3: marriage when people are no longer intentional about building, when
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Speaker 3: trust is gone, when friendship is gone, when when all
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Speaker 3: the things dissipate, the first thing that goes is that sex,
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Speaker 3: that intimacy. Because the more sex you have, the more
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Speaker 3: one you become. The more sex you have, the more
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Speaker 3: intimate your union is, the more difficult it is to
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Speaker 3: be frustrated, the more difficult it is to be angry.
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Speaker 3: The more sex that you have, the more to become one.
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Speaker 3: That is the place where two becomes one. And so
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Speaker 3: we have a lot of people that are engaging in
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Speaker 3: a behavior that was meant. The Bible says, the marriage
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Speaker 3: bet is pure and undefiled. The Bible says that the
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Speaker 3: marriage bed is strong enough to hold and contain your
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Speaker 3: sexual appetite. Will God forgive you if you have sex
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Speaker 3: outside your marriage? Yes, of course he will.
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Speaker 4: But will there be consequences that's connected to it.
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Speaker 3: God does not save you from the consequences of the
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Speaker 3: soul tithe, the consequences of procreation, the consequences of procreation
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Speaker 3: with somebody that never you were supposed to never create with.
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Speaker 4: It's powerful.
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Speaker 3: God is trying to protect us when he says don't
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Speaker 3: have sex before marriage.
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Speaker 4: He's not trying to punish us. But people think about
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Speaker 4: it punishment, and.
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Speaker 3: So they never have an intentional, spiritual, intellectual idea about
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Speaker 3: this decision that they're about to engage in.
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Speaker 4: They just do so so random.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, and you know, shameless plug. But
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Speaker 5: my husband wrote a book called g Rated Sex where
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Speaker 5: he preached a sermon for four weeks inside of a
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Speaker 5: bed and talked about it from God's perspective. So that
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Speaker 5: is definitely on his website, Jermome Glenn dot com. And
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Speaker 5: that's a book that you want to get especially if
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Speaker 5: you are unmarried, you are a single person, learn learn
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Speaker 5: about sex from God's perspective so that it's not taboo.
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Speaker 5: But in church we we get so weird about sex
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Speaker 5: and talking about it, and even in some marriage spaces
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Speaker 5: or whatever, people they get uncomfortable and and God created this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not worldly from God exactly.
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Speaker 5: And so like you stated earlier about sex, not only
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Speaker 5: do you marry somebody, So like if you're unmarried and
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Speaker 5: you've had sex with somebody that it was supposed to
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Speaker 5: be consummated, I mean that it was supposed to be
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Speaker 5: for marriage. So now you are married to a person
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Speaker 5: that you're not married to because you have a covenant
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Speaker 5: with them, and then now you have a soul tie
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Speaker 5: with them.
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Speaker 2: And a soul tie.
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Speaker 5: To me is like extremely, but a man like extremely.
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Speaker 5: It causes you not to be able to make good decisions.
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Speaker 5: It causes you to free not to see red flags
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Speaker 5: and turn them into green, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, just magically.
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Speaker 5: And I'm speaking as from a person who who who's
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Speaker 5: had to break the soul ties and heal from that
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Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: The person is gone and you still dealing.
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Speaker 5: With the fragments of them, of their soul inside of
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Speaker 5: you and making decisions and being in a relationship with
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Speaker 5: a person that's not even there, but you're still in
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Speaker 5: a relationship with them. And so another shameless plug, My
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Speaker 5: husband wrote a book called Soul Ties and it helps
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Speaker 5: you to go through yet helps you to go through
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Speaker 5: all of the processions sol sessions. I'm sorry for soul
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Speaker 5: sessions because he says that everything goes through your life,
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Speaker 5: but it goes through your soul, and your soul is
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Speaker 5: the last place that we try to heal and that
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Speaker 5: is the place that we really live out of is
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Speaker 5: from our soul. So yes, as an unmarried, unmarried single person,
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Speaker 5: sex is not a component that you need in your
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Speaker 5: relationship if you if you want to be married. It
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Speaker 5: complicates things, which it already is complicated, but it complicates
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Speaker 5: things and not and it makes you not be able
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Speaker 5: to take the data that you get in dating and
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Speaker 5: to make a good decision. Now it's all messed up
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Speaker 5: or confused and all this other kind of stuff. So
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Speaker 5: you know, you want to get in those spaces and
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Speaker 5: places and clear so that you can make a good
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Speaker 5: conscious decision of who you want to spend your life with.
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Speaker 2: There you in there you're in there right now.
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Speaker 3: And just for the people that's asking, because I could
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Speaker 3: feel it. Yes, we made a intentional decision not to sleep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't sleep together before we got married.
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Speaker 1: Well, keep it there, because we want to talk about
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Speaker 1: setting strict boundaries now with each other. Yeah, of your questions,
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Speaker 1: great topic today eight five, five, nine, thirteen ninety.
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Speaker 2: Inspiration thirteen ninety families.
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Speaker 1: So glad that you are submitting your questions, so whether
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Speaker 1: we can get them answered here on Relationship Talk Thursday
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Speaker 1: with the Power Couple of the Glenn's pastors, Jamoon and
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Speaker 1: Erica Glenn. Shit, couples set strict boundaries? Now we should
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Speaker 1: which chill, still talking about sex and relationships?
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Speaker 2: So here we go.
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Speaker 1: Should couples set strict boundaries or go with the flow? Already?
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Speaker 1: But this is a question that came in.
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Speaker 4: I think it depends on the context, right.
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Speaker 3: So, if you're in marriage, I think you should go
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Speaker 3: with the flow and set strict boundaries, right So, and
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Speaker 3: if you're outside of marriage, I think you should set
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Speaker 3: strict boundaries and don't go with the flow.
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Speaker 4: I digress, But here's what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Inside of the context of marriage, we set strict boundaries
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Speaker 3: because we have small children, they had to go to
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Speaker 3: bed at a certain time because they like to come
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Speaker 3: crawl on your beds, deep in your bed with you.
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Speaker 3: It's very difficult to be intimate with your spouse if
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Speaker 3: your kid is laying between you. Right, it's difficult to
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Speaker 3: be intimate with your spouse when your children go to
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Speaker 3: bed at the same time you do. Right, your house
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Speaker 3: don't shut down at no time. They uplate as you day,
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Speaker 3: up early as you when you're gonna have intimate time.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of couples aren't being intimate, not because
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Speaker 3: it's intentional, it's because they haven't set intentional boundaries to
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Speaker 3: create time and space for sex and intimacy. How often
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Speaker 3: do we have sex? How frequent would you like to
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Speaker 3: have it? Is there time that the house shut down?
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Speaker 3: Do we stop answering the phone, playing on our phone,
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Speaker 3: bringing electronics in our room, letting people just drop over
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Speaker 3: and stay over too long? Need to be strict boundaries
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Speaker 3: to protect your eating and get married. Your houses are eating?
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Speaker 3: Can you run around naked in your room in a house?
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Speaker 3: Is there a space in your house that's consecrated for
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Speaker 3: your self that you're free in that people don't just
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Speaker 3: bust in and walk in and whatever. Strict boundaries and
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Speaker 3: go with the flow and let it happen on the
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Speaker 3: other side.
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Speaker 5: And in regards to uh, single people, yeah so single yeah,
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Speaker 5: single right, what we did single people, you have to
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Speaker 5: have strict boundaries, like and it has to be it
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Speaker 5: has to be almost handwritten or inside of your phone
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Speaker 5: so that you don't forget what.
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Speaker 2: Your boundaries are.
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Speaker 5: But one of the boundaries that we set with each
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Speaker 5: other is that we spent a lot of time with
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Speaker 5: the old people, my grandparents. We were in their presence.
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Speaker 5: We set on the couch, the yeah, at their house.
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Speaker 5: They would go to bed, and it was like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 5: well we got about thirty more minutes and then we
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Speaker 5: need to be you need to go home, and I
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Speaker 5: need to go get in the base the license.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was.
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Speaker 5: Just like she just caught just called it called your
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Speaker 5: little minister friend and we just go get mad on
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Speaker 5: the on the on the fireplace. But anyway, and then also,
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Speaker 5: you know, as an unmarried person, you have to set
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Speaker 5: strict boundaries in conversation, like I know, you know, oh
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Speaker 5: you hang up, I'll hang up, you hang up the
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Speaker 5: whole thing. Three o'clock in the morning, you might need
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Speaker 5: to shut that down earlier, earlier, because right and watch
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Speaker 5: what you talk about, and watch what you pray about,
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Speaker 5: and all that, you know, all that stuff that's causing
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Speaker 5: you to be connected. You got to have strict boundaries
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Speaker 5: because if you're acting married and you're not married, then
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Speaker 5: it gets confusing and then now you're trying to figure
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Speaker 5: out what is it really that we're doing here, And
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Speaker 5: then a person has an expectation and they can get
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Speaker 5: hurt because of their expectation. So as an unmarried person,
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Speaker 5: especially as a female, honey shit, you gotta put some
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Speaker 5: boundaries because you got to make him feel that he
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Speaker 5: needs you in his life.
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Speaker 2: And if you make yourself.
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Speaker 5: Extremely accessible and extremely available, he has no reason to
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Speaker 5: come any closer. He has no reason to make a
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Speaker 5: decision because you, like my grandmama said, you ain't seven
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Speaker 5: to eleven when seven eleven was open twenty four hours.
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Speaker 5: I know, we got we got all kinds of stories
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Speaker 5: open twenty four hours. But my grandmama said, don't be
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Speaker 5: seven eleven. Don't be no birthday cake. Everybody can get
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Speaker 5: a piece of it, like all of that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 5: Don't let the Lord catch you with your draws down.
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Speaker 5: That's kind of boundaries that she was setting for me.
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Speaker 5: But as an unmarried woman, you have to set boundaries
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Speaker 5: for yourself. It's a protection and a man and a man,
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Speaker 5: yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's important that you create healthy boundaries to protect yourself.
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Speaker 3: There will be a time when you can talk about
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Speaker 3: the things you need to talk about and the curiosity
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Speaker 3: you need to have, and trust me, everything work and
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Speaker 3: will be working. You won't always got to test it
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Speaker 3: out before, but but protect the time when you engage
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Speaker 3: in certain levels of conversation because there might be moments
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Speaker 3: that you wish you could take.
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Speaker 5: As an unmarried woman, you have to set boundaries for yourself.
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Speaker 5: It's a protection and a man and a man, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's important that you create healthy boundaries to protect yourself.
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Speaker 3: There will be a time when you can talk about
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Speaker 3: the things you need to talk about and the curiosity
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Speaker 3: you need to have, and trust me, everything work and
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Speaker 3: will be working. You won't always got to test it
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Speaker 3: out before, but but protect the time when you engage
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Speaker 3: in certain levels of conversation because that might be moments
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Speaker 3: that you wish you could take back.
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Speaker 5: And we haven't even had the question that somebody asked,
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Speaker 5: you know, like, if we have already over if we've
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Speaker 5: overstepped the boundaries, can you can you pull it back?
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Speaker 5: And it's like, yes, you can pull it back, but
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Speaker 5: that's a conversation that you have with each other because
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Speaker 5: you've already crossed those boundaries.
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Speaker 2: So you can't just be like, nope, you got to
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Speaker 2: have a conversation because you said yes, like that, but
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Speaker 2: you should conversation.
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Speaker 5: You do have to have a conversation, and that will
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Speaker 5: show you where they are in regards to their mindset
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Speaker 5: about you, if they get upset about your boundary or
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Speaker 5: if they're like, okay, yeah, that might be something I
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Speaker 5: can work with.
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Speaker 2: But that's another space of conversation.
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Speaker 3: Because somebody that's only pressuring you to have sex might
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Speaker 3: be hiding the rest.
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Speaker 2: What about the whole thing of shocking?
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Speaker 3: Shocking in my I mean, you know, in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: I just think you you're what you always say, you
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Speaker 3: are practicing something that you don't have a grace. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, so you got married folks problems without married folks, promise.
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Speaker 2: Or grace or annointing.
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Speaker 3: No grace, no annointing, you trying it. You consolidate this
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Speaker 3: all of reasons. We practicing money blah blah blah. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I understand that, but if you can't afford it, then
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Speaker 3: if you can't afford it outside, what's making you afford
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Speaker 3: it inside? People do it and then they have these
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Speaker 3: prolonged five year, ten year engagements. It never really happened.
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Speaker 3: All the frustrations that you get with being married that
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Speaker 3: you don't get the grace to accomplish. So, yeah, people
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Speaker 3: can intellectualize it, but you know, when you finish intellectualizing it,
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Speaker 3: you got your same piece properties, name on properties, You
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Speaker 3: own stuff that you ain't even married to. If somebody die,
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Speaker 3: somebody get into an accident, they can't call you, you
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Speaker 3: can't make no decisions in the hospital room. You're gonna
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Speaker 3: lose everything. Then you totally invest it because your name
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Speaker 3: ain't on everything. So you're trying to play grown up,
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Speaker 3: but you're still acting like a kid.
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Speaker 2: And y'all give us a lot to think about. The ponder.
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Speaker 4: It's really equipping.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be small helpful.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Get to learn from other couples. No, you're
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