Latest / D-constructing Topics / Unveiling the Legacy of Martin Luther King Jr.: A Puerto Rican Perspective
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- 0:00What's going on, folks, and welcome to the Legendary Podcast.
- 0:04My name is David, and welcome to this Legendary Podcast, the Deconstructing Topic Podcast.
- 0:10What's going on, everybody? Ooh, we got another special one,
- 0:15a meaningful one, a one that I would say, the topic that we're going to be talking
- 0:21about today is Martin Luther King's Day.
- 0:25We celebrate and honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,
- 0:28and we got a little i always
- 0:31say that when i do these podcasts keep in mind
- 0:34is this that sometimes and in many cases i like
- 0:37to do what they call like a stew little different ingredients in spanish we
- 0:44got the caldero big caldero we got a big pot and we just throw in different
- 0:48ingredients to see what works i'm pretty sure by the end of the day that night
- 0:53stew is going to be tasting.
- 0:57Wonderful. But we got Martin Luther King.
- 1:01We're going to talk a little bit of a couple of things here and there,
- 1:04but it's more of my perspective in terms of Martin Luther King.
- 1:09Keep in mind, I always tell people I was born in the island,
- 1:13the beautiful island of Puerto Rico.
- 1:15Yes, I'm an unofficial ambassador of Puerto Rico, raised in New York City, Bronx.
- 1:21And just to give you an idea, So sometimes learning about people like Martin
- 1:25Luther King coming here in this country, you just say to yourself, wow.
- 1:30And what better way to kind of get that little Martin Luther King juice flowing?
- 1:35We got a little bit of a couple of things going on. Let's get it.
- 1:40My four little children who one day live in a nation where they will not be.
- 1:40Music.
- 1:45Judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream.
- 1:55And that was Martin Luther King's famous speech on August 28th, 1963 in D.C.
- 2:02Just to give you an idea where I'm at with Martin Luther King.
- 2:06And look, Martin Luther King, one of the leaders of the civil rights movement.
- 2:11Some argue that he was the face of it.
- 2:14But keep in mind is this, the civil rights movement from the 50s to the 60s in the United States,
- 2:19Especially for those black communities Fighting for equality And just not just
- 2:25equality in other But just equality in many spectrum But what's interesting
- 2:30about the civil rights movement.
- 2:32Me, me, me, me, I got a little sight Hey, listen, I'm feeling good So relax
- 2:38there, you little cold, whatever Trying to get to me I'm trying to do a podcast
- 2:42It needs to relax But people forget The civil rights movement.
- 2:46People always kind of, for some reason, and yes, it did happen a lot in the
- 2:50South, but it also happened in New York City, Boston, Chicago, L.A.
- 2:56So you had different sectors, different groups of these civil rights.
- 3:01And for those who are not in the United States that want to get,
- 3:05the civil rights movement is basically a movement spearheaded by many black leaders.
- 3:10Again, there was segregation in the South, you know, legally, if I understand it.
- 3:15And here in the north when i say the south we're talking
- 3:18about georgia the southern states north carolina south
- 3:21carolina louisiana and so on so basically
- 3:24black people or people in the black community they
- 3:27drank or ate or had to take bus separate from
- 3:30the white and sadly for the black some of
- 3:33these things let's just say we're not a
- 3:36you know top shape you know what i mean so you
- 3:40know it's one of those deals that in the south they fall for that in the
- 3:43north here in new york city even though segregation was not
- 3:47a thing for some reason the system and even brother malcolm x kind of spoke
- 3:53about it that hey listen over here they like to point what's going on in the
- 3:57south but hey you know we got a little kind of going on segregation in new york city so let's go.
- 4:04Malin luther king and we're able to start with malin luther king because he's
- 4:07a swiss knife You know, when I say a Swiss knife, am I saying it right?
- 4:13Swiss, right? Knife, meaning that, you know, those little knives with like so
- 4:16many gadgets that you could do.
- 4:17Martin Luther King, my understanding. Brother, Martin Luther King Jr., born in January 15th.
- 4:24That's why January, it's that day.
- 4:27Even though, as I'm recording this, it's January 20th.
- 4:30But they always do the, I believe it's the second or the third Monday.
- 4:35So January is It's Marlott King's month So he was born January 15,
- 4:411929 And sadly What happened with Marlott the King That he was.
- 4:48Assassinated In April 4, 1968 In Memphis,
- 4:52Tennessee And what's interesting with Marlott the King Is that when he I say
- 4:57he's a Swiss knife People kind of always remember And we always talk about What
- 5:02he was fighting for When it comes to the civil rights movement,
- 5:05But he did so much. And sadly, on the day and on the week that he was there
- 5:12in Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee,
- 5:14for some reason, I can't you now, for some reason, I thought that he was deleted
- 5:19somewhere in Alabama for some reason.
- 5:21But I think that there was some connection between Alabama kind of sanitation
- 5:25workers or there was some type of strike for those people who are in the union or the labor union.
- 5:31We do know what it is for strike. Basically, it's like, we ain't working until
- 5:35you take care of us. You know what I mean?
- 5:38So he's on Tennessee, doing his Tennessee thing, Memphis, Tennessee.
- 5:43And sadly, yeah, he was in this sanitation worker strike that affected more
- 5:49than 1,500 black sanitation workers,
- 5:52not getting the proper wages and benefits and whatever comes down to be working.
- 5:58So just to tell you that, you know, he's been all around. Now,
- 6:02what's interesting is this, and some people might either know,
- 6:07do not know, that we might have not Martin Luther King.
- 6:11Now, sadly, Martin Luther King was assassinated. Now, hey, I hate to work,
- 6:15but hey, we got to use that in the context of what happened to his life.
- 6:19But sadly, my understanding back in 1958, he was doing a little book tour.
- 6:24Remember, Martin Luther King been around doing that, you know, that work.
- 6:29Now, keep in mind, I always tell people, Marlon the King is a Christian Baptist, if I'm not mistaken.
- 6:36Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't edit these podcasts.
- 6:40So Marlon the King comes in that sense of, and one of the philosophy would be
- 6:45that he's on that nonviolent. We're going to talk about that as well in this podcast.
- 6:50But just the fact that we might not have Marlon the King because in 1958 when
- 6:54he was doing his thing, his little book tour, He was doing something in Harlem,
- 6:59a young lady by the name of Isola Curry, a black woman.
- 7:04And it's, how can I say the irony sometimes?
- 7:08And you're going to hear this in every spectrum of people who,
- 7:14let's say, Puerto Ricans in a black neighborhood.
- 7:17You know, I work, you know, with a lot of Albanians, Italians,
- 7:21so on, Dominicans. You're always going to hear this.
- 7:25Sometimes there's people that feel That the people that do more harm to you
- 7:28In the context that we in United States And we in this melting pot in New York
- 7:33City With different kind of culture Different type of people Is that a lot of
- 7:37people feel like Hey listen The people that do you more harm Is your own people,
- 7:42Right We have heard that Raise a hand if you heard that You know sometimes there's
- 7:47people that feel that way And sometimes it is true There is a,
- 7:52How can I say They're kind of like a connection in a sense, because there's
- 7:56only room for, let's say, X amount of Puerto Ricans,
- 8:00X amount of Dominicans, X amount of Italians, Albanians,
- 8:04Polish, Blacks.
- 8:06In a country that we are mostly working with white people, I'm just saying.
- 8:12So Isola Curry, a black woman, my understanding is that she was going through a little mental issue.
- 8:18There's not much of info as what it is, but the fact that this black young woman
- 8:24decided to kind of take a jab at Mr. Martin Luther King.
- 8:29And my understanding, he stabbed him almost close to the heart.
- 8:32So in other words in 1958 we could
- 8:36have the well i just say that
- 8:39in this beautiful country the history of moan luther
- 8:41king and the black history and all that we wouldn't have a moan luther king
- 8:46so you know again it goes back to that situation in regards to that sometimes
- 8:52even in your own people you know might do harm to you you know what i mean i
- 8:57mean it's one of those things uh There's not really much.
- 9:01It's an interesting story. One that some people forget.
- 9:05Some people hear. But just the fact that we might not have heard.
- 9:09Or we might not have Martin Luther King as we know. I'm pretty sure we would
- 9:13have still celebrated Martin Luther King.
- 9:14But he lived a little bit longer to tell beautiful stories and fight that fight. So we making it happen.
- 9:20The other situation as you already know. Is that the person that assassinated
- 9:25Martin Luther King was James Earl Ray.
- 9:29And he died. He died years ago. And it's one of those things that Martin Luther
- 9:33King have, you know, and I just want to say it and kind of forgot that he's Correa Scott King.
- 9:38His wife survived. He had sojourn as well.
- 9:43Coretta Scott King, my understanding is that she continued the legacy and the
- 9:47fight for Martin Luther King. So let's not forget that.
- 9:51My understanding that him, his family, his older kids, in a sense, forgave James R.
- 9:57Ray, for who was the person that was convicted for the assassination of Martin Luther King.
- 10:04And what's interesting is that there are still kind of, in a way,
- 10:10people feel that even though this individual was caught,
- 10:13And that, you know, and we don't want to go to like this little conspiracy because
- 10:17we are honoring and my point, but I'm only telling you these stories because
- 10:22of what I've experienced knowing the Martin Luther King.
- 10:26And the fact that one of the things there is that, you know,
- 10:31we could go who did it, you know what I'm saying? And my understanding is that it's still a thing.
- 10:35There's some secrets out there, whether it's, you know, let's say the government,
- 10:40let's say it was a private. Keep in mind, he was part of the sanitation strike.
- 10:44Couldn't be a corporation.
- 10:46You know, we could go different ways, but it's different ways.
- 10:50I'm over here getting different ways. I'm over here thinking about James Earl
- 10:53Ray, the person that has been accused
- 10:56and convicted in the jail time of assassinating Martin Luther King.
- 11:01But the fact is this, we don't know. Now, is that something that is interesting? Sure.
- 11:08Depending on what avenues you want to take it. You know what I mean?
- 11:11But it's one of those things that, yeah, people do want to know. I want to know.
- 11:16And, you know, again, in the 60s, in this country, we have assassinations of
- 11:23important figures, historical figures.
- 11:26Brother Malcolm X, John F. Kennedy as the president of the United States.
- 11:30Robert Kennedy, his little brother, who was running for or was being a candidate
- 11:35to run for president of the United States a year later.
- 11:38So a lot of things was going on in the 60s. The 60s was wild You know what I'm
- 11:44saying Now I bring up Brother Malcolm X To the equation,
- 11:49Because Brother Malcolm X And let's just say Martin Luther King Jr Or Martin
- 11:57Luther King III But you know Actually Jr I'm sorry,
- 12:01You know they had a little clash going on Because Malcolm X He's a Muslim right
- 12:06But even if we take away from that Right.
- 12:10You know, Malcolm X was from New York City, you feel me?
- 12:14And sometimes he's, I think that sometimes, you know, New York City,
- 12:17New York City loves attention.
- 12:19And it could be because Malcolm X representing this part of the United States
- 12:25in the civil rights movement.
- 12:26You also had Adam Clayton Power Jr., you know, politician going on.
- 12:33So they had a little friction with Martin Luther King. Sometimes it could be so many things.
- 12:38But one of the things could be that, hey, New York City wants its attention. Hey, we got issues, too.
- 12:43You know, many of the white folks that, you know, were in support of the civil
- 12:48rights movement, kind of giving money out here to these black communities.
- 12:52Brother Malcolm X and Adam Kling, you know, hey, listen, you guys over here
- 12:57donating money to send people to the South, but that's a problem here, too.
- 13:01And Malcolm X kind of view it as there's
- 13:04a famous picture where he had a gun and he view as if they
- 13:07attacking us eye for an eye basically and the
- 13:11same you know to say with Adam Clay and Power where he was the politician that's
- 13:16another podcast there and then with Marley the King basically being Christian
- 13:20he was in a non-violent situation so I just want to throw that there That's
- 13:25a different dynamic in itself with what I've heard.
- 13:29As you already know, Malcolm X was very vocal, especially very vocal against the,
- 13:34or let's just say he tended to kind of say to the white liberals,
- 13:38the friendly white community who funded these kind of civil rights kind of movement
- 13:45or groups or whatever to fight, you know, this racism and all that.
- 13:49You know, brother Malcolm X, Adam Clayton power.
- 13:52You could throw James Baldwin. I could go so much with the civil rights. It's a beautiful story.
- 13:57I definitely will be doing one in the, well, a lot of people like to say Black
- 14:02History Month. I like to say American history.
- 14:04It's a beautiful thing. And listen, a lot of people would say that,
- 14:08you know, Martin Luther King might have kind of changed.
- 14:12And in a sense that Martin Luther King, as you already know,
- 14:16that these things were happening, that he might have gotten a little bit more
- 14:20aggressive, became more anti-capitalist and anti-war.
- 14:24That time was Vietnam War. And sadly, some people kind of attribute that to,
- 14:29how can I say, his assassination, basically.
- 14:33He was too much of an important figure.
- 14:35So, especially in the black community, and he has too much power.
- 14:39Enough is enough, sadly.
- 14:40Some people will see it that way when Martin
- 14:44Luther King was assassinated we had the Martin Luther
- 14:46King assassination right now I
- 14:50bring this up because I remember in 2020 when
- 14:54George Floyd was sadly killed when when I'm
- 14:56gonna say that when I say sadly because I always
- 15:00say there's no way you should have
- 15:03put a knee behind somebody's back regardless of anything so
- 15:07that dude is doing his time george floyd got killed and it
- 15:10led to uh kind of like a momentum of
- 15:13of of you know the black community and
- 15:16sadly sometimes it gets co-opted and you had the rights right now some people
- 15:20would bring up that there were rights when marlotte the king was assassinated
- 15:26and and it was kind of like it you know what i would feel as if in the black
- 15:33community is that i would feel,
- 15:36Wow, they just bodied our guy You know, the person that's fighting for our rights
- 15:42You just basically, boom, he's dead Oh, we're gonna go after you Not my thing with riots.
- 15:48And some people brought up, you know, look, this is what happened in George
- 15:52Floyd riots. People have the rights to riots.
- 15:55People got the right to be angry and kind of vent, right?
- 16:00And people brought up the Martin Luther King riots. And I personally would say
- 16:05this is the sad thing about these riots,
- 16:08especially that people should be more cautious, especially with the situation with George Floyd.
- 16:15Is that riots tend to be co-opted, right?
- 16:19And I say co-opted meaning that some entity grabs it, manipulates it. What happened is this?
- 16:27In Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C., Atlanta, wherever these,
- 16:32Chicago, wherever some of these riots took place, right?
- 16:36Sadly, it took a while for these communities to rebuild because you could say the government, right?
- 16:44The United States government could have said, Hey, listen, sadly,
- 16:47I understand your grief. Let's put money.
- 16:51Let's rebuild your areas, whatever.
- 16:54Stores burned down, whatever it happened. I understand your grief.
- 16:57Let's get some leaders. Let's talk it out. You know what I'm saying?
- 17:01But sadly, now the state government said, you guys burned that stuff because,
- 17:05you know, your boy over here got killed. You know what?
- 17:09Learn your lesson, basically. So that's why I'm not a fan or I was not a fan
- 17:13of these riots because they get caught.
- 17:15And sometimes the government would just leave us burning
- 17:18for decades like ah you guys destroy that
- 17:22store let it be now you know now that things
- 17:25has a little bit different because some of these stores got
- 17:28instruments whatever but again these things get
- 17:31co-opted so that's another little story of
- 17:34Martin Luther King Martin Luther or
- 17:38Martin Luther King was named after Martin Luther something that we
- 17:41have spoke about Martin Luther was basically
- 17:44the German priest if if a lot
- 17:47of people especially in the Protestant Roman Catholic
- 17:50Martin Luther was a important figure in starting the Reformation back a long
- 17:56time ago a long time ago we're talking about like what 500 600 years ago and
- 18:02it's one of those things interesting kind of little tidbit there I mean I think
- 18:08people have mentioned it.
- 18:09And if you look at Martin Luther King, and if you look at the word Luther,
- 18:16and for those in the Christian church, Protestant church,
- 18:20there are churches that are named after Martin Luther, or let's say Martin Luther,
- 18:24the German priest or Lutheran church.
- 18:27I'm going to be like, hey. So I just want to bring that up in regards to that.
- 18:32Yes, Martin Luther King does bring an aspect of the non-violence approach.
- 18:38And when I say nonviolence, I believe even he might have adopted something from Gandhi.
- 18:44It's that basically, all right, you guys can slap us all you want,
- 18:48but we're still going to fight. We're still going to march. We're still going to do our thing.
- 18:51And we're still going to do whatever it is until we get it done.
- 18:55And, you know, we got the civil rights bill that was signed in 64, 65, if I'm not mistaken.
- 19:02So he made moves. So he made moves.
- 19:05Again, just to give you a little thing going on. Me growing up.
- 19:08So here's somebody like that. And I said to yourself, there's some people,
- 19:12and I grew up, there's some people in the black community who gravitated towards Malcolm X approach.
- 19:19It's like, all right, you're going to slap me, I'm going to slap you twice. You understand?
- 19:23And, you know, kind of gravitated to Brother Malcolm X a little bit more than Martin Luther King.
- 19:29I apologize, and I don't apologize, right?
- 19:33But, you know, these are individuals who are savages. And when I say savages,
- 19:37we're talking about fighting for the justice of everything, but mostly the black community.
- 19:45And, you know, for me to grow up, you know, you hear names because I was too
- 19:49young when I moved over here.
- 19:51But you hear names that have fought the fight and have fight the fight.
- 19:57And you hear names and then you gravitate to an individual and it kind of opens
- 20:00the doors where you want to know. You want to know, as one me,
- 20:04Puerto Rican, who's that Puerto Rican version of Martin Luther King?
- 20:09I think some people might have bought Pedro Albizu Campo, but I disagree.
- 20:13Pedro Albizu Campo was more like Malcolm X. You know what I mean? In that sense.
- 20:20But I get, you know, Pedro Albizu Campo, that's another podcast.
- 20:25That's way before. But just to give you an idea as a Puerto Rican kid to learn
- 20:28this and the struggles here in the black community, You kind of say to yourself
- 20:32There's still a struggle The only difference that I can see here Now there's
- 20:38nothing legally that would say Gay,
- 20:40you know, black people cannot do this Black people, you know There's no laws
- 20:44that impeach the black people What happened is this It gets co-opted,
- 20:49it gets confiscated And sadly,
- 20:52When it comes to Martin Luther King And even Malcolm X They get a little bit
- 20:57of whitewash You could say Because sometimes if you start and I've heard some
- 21:02speeches where, you know,
- 21:04especially after the assassination of Malcolm is that, you know,
- 21:10you start to see, you know, Marlith the King kind of a little bit aggressive
- 21:15because he knows, hey, my time is coming too.
- 21:18And then I saw a speech where his tone was different than what we have studied
- 21:23or what the media have shown.
- 21:25You know, and it's a speech in 66, if I'm not mistaken. Again,
- 21:29this is like a year after the assassinated brother Malcolm X.
- 21:34Keep in mind, mine was 1968. So his tone of voice kind of have changed.
- 21:39People call him radical.
- 21:40You know, people started to call him radical. But it's just that the tone,
- 21:44as he was becoming mature. Keep in mind, he died at the age of, what, 38, 39?
- 21:49But even that age, as he was becoming, as the change of this country was becoming,
- 21:55kind of Martin Luther King started to adapt.
- 21:58And I remember it was a speech by Adam Clayton Power where he kind of said,
- 22:05okay, I see that, you know, making fun of Martin Luther King.
- 22:08Hey, I see that he's kind of changing the colors there, you know what I mean?
- 22:12You know, Adam Clinton, what a class act.
- 22:15But it's one of those things that you gravitate to these stories and to know
- 22:19that there was another side of Martin Luther King, more a little bit edgy.
- 22:24I'm a little edgy myself, more like, hey, I'm not going to fall into this trap
- 22:30and be a puppet of the system type of deal.
- 22:33But it's always good to know that, hey, brother Martin Luther King was on that
- 22:38wagon where, hey, what's going on? You know what I'm saying?
- 22:43You know, as much as I'm a Christian and as much as I believe in the nonviolence
- 22:49and love and all that, you guys are pushing my binds.
- 22:54So that's a little bit of the story of Marlott the King and what he has meant
- 22:59in terms of my life and me having to understand.
- 23:02Keep in mind that I'm from Puerto Rico and coming to this country,
- 23:06that there was a lot of struggles here in New York City, in the South,
- 23:09Chicago, in the black community. We're still struggling.
- 23:13Rest in peace. When I say Cha-Cha Jimenez, who's the leader of the Young Lords, Puerto Rican,
- 23:19who might have been inspired by Martin Luther King to kind of get these groups,
- 23:25the Young Lords, that's another podcast. I keep saying, yo, that's another podcast.
- 23:29For everything I say, I keep saying, that's another podcast.
- 23:32But the fact that there's a lot of things that have happened,
- 23:35and these individuals, the Martin Luther King, they have kind of,
- 23:39you could say, They sacrificed because they knew.
- 23:42That something was going to happen. And they put out there and they fought that fight.
- 23:46The equality and some of the certain freedoms that we might have experienced.
- 23:51Because of this individual.
- 23:52But like I always said. Freedom in this country comes with an asterisk.
- 23:56Even though there's no laws that forbid for you to do things.
- 24:00Regardless of what color, greed, religion, whatever it is.
- 24:04Keep in mind we still tied up. We still got shackles.
- 24:07We still are being signed up and manipulated. by some of these mainstream news.
- 24:13And in a day like this, you know, feel free to go and put Martin Luther King
- 24:18radical views or Martin Luther King, you know, something to that effect.
- 24:22I don't want to discredit everything that he did 90% of his life preaching about
- 24:28the nonviolence and the equality.
- 24:30But just check it out. Just check it out. You're going to see some of his speeches.
- 24:35I try to find one, but I'm telling you, sometimes YouTube half away,
- 24:39And I'm not just going to say YouTube, but to mention finding a way that when
- 24:43people are waking up and doing their little research out of nowhere.
- 24:48Video cannot be found. It changes the algorithm.
- 24:51And that's why sometimes, listen, that's why you're going to please feel free
- 24:55to like, share, comment.
- 24:57If you want to hit me up, if I miss something, if you learn something, feel free to hit me up.
- 25:03Let's make it happen. Much love. This is the Deconstructing Topic Podcast,
- 25:06and I hope that you enjoy this nice little episode because we make it happen for sure, for sure.
- 25:13And you already know much love out there. Stay safe.
- 25:16Remember, freedom comes with a price. But just remember the people like Martin
- 25:20Luther King, man, just remember that.
- 25:23Let's make it happen. And I'm out. Peace.