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PECKHAM PLAYBOY HAKAN (Part 1) talks Arsenal, Football, Gimmicks, Cyprus wrestling, Genesis & more · What Do You Call It? Podcast!

• 0:06
  Hello and welcome to another episode of What Do You Call It
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  Podcast. I'm your host GB.
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  Today's guest is Captain Peng Peckham, Playboy Hakeem.
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  All the names, all the names, all the.
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  Names that I've left out that you want.
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  I kind of, I have a list of them.
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  So it starts off with the Turkish delight, the talented
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  Captain Peng himself, the Peckham Playboy Akan.
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  Nice, nice. I like the intro there, mate.
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  I'm sure you get that on AT shirt.
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  I'm pretty certain, yeah. A long list on the back of AT
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  shirt. Sweet mate, sweet.
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  Before we discuss wrestling, we've talked about it in
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  privately on Instagram, Arsenal. So what I want to do is open up
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  with you talking about Arsenal this season.
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  We don't talk about the history of Arsenal because we're here
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  forever, but it's national break.
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  It's now taking place. Tell me your thoughts on Arsenal
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  this season. Well, in terms of them as a as a
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  collective, you can see the difference like the match we had
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  the other night where our bench should look just looks
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  absolutely solid like it. I think they compared it to last
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  season where you looked at the bench that we had there and the
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  players coming on, you know, Georginio, for instance.
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  And then you had Zubamendi come on the other day as both the
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  same style of player, but both completely different qualities.
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  And then it kind of showed like when Odegard injured the other
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  day, everyone was like, Oh yeah, bring 1 Yuri on, bring 1 Yuri
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  on. And then like one year he's a
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  absolutely fantastic talent and they bought Zubamendi on and I
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  was like, everyone was like, what was going on?
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  And then to be fair, he played the ball for the goal and he
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  played the ball for the pen. So he didn't do too bad, did he?
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  And I think that's it. I think as a as an Arsenal fan,
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  we've been there there about for the last, what, three or Four
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  Seasons? Growing, growing, growing.
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  And this season you kind of we're probably going to shoot
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  ourselves in the foot because it's like, we've been there,
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  we've been there, we've been there.
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  But this season just, it was different, I think because that
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  squad depth from what they've done to kind of grow as a squad
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  and get rid of, you know, those players that were just hanging
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  on for no reason, which which is good.
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  And then the one thing we needed, which was a striker.
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  And Yokores for me has been absolutely phenomenal this
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  season. Yes, he was brought in for a,
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  for a, for a goal scorer. He's got three.
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  Yeah. And I saw, I saw a clip the
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  other day. Sorry, I'm rambling.
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  You're the guest, man. I'm interested.
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  In myself I saw a clip. The other day, right, there's a
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  Newcastle game. We had Yochares in the middle
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  and he had two defenders on him, OK.
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  And I was like, all right. But you see the image of
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  Yochares with two defenders on him, clearly they saw him as a
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  threat. They saw the fact that he, you
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  know, whatever, whatever. And you know who was three on
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  the right hand side but Kayo Zaka, Yeah, he drew these two
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  defenders away to just let him who you know, if you think about
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  it, seasons have passed, four or five players just ransacker just
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  so he don't get the bloody ball. Like he's doing that and he's
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  doing so much more for the team. And then it's going to the goals
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  will come. I reckon the goals will come
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  easy. Look, the other night he need he
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  scored a tap in due to, you know, when they went down the
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  left and they played it in. It was just inches away from
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  getting another goal. And that's, that's what he
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  offers differently, I feel in terms of what we've had in the
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  past. Sorry, I can just chat.
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  I honestly do agree I do have some confidence issues in terms
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  of him actually being a goal threat that I feel personally
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  might come by Christmas then OK we can judge me a bit more.
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  But as an actual player I think you've nailed it.
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  He is still a threat. They are still marking him with
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  two or three players, but it allows him to free up his
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  teammates like he said with Saka, and then you've got and
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  you've got Trussard and you've got Martinelli and I think you
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  mentioned. Those players just having space
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  and no one around them, It's mental.
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  It's like. It's mental to have those
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  players and I think as they coming in has really given
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  Martinelli Trussard a real kick up the ass.
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  I think like Trossard is fantastic when I saw him last
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  week, like I know ID guard was the start of the show man the
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  match and deservedly so yeah, ultimately, but Trossard just
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  looked brilliant again. Looks like he's up for it.
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  Martinelli he's scoring think he's our top scorer at the
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  moment. If you told me before the season
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  began with all the signings we've just had and you say
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  Martinelli would be top six like top scorer in like the first few
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  months. I probably laugh at you, but
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  it's. Yeah, 100% because that that was
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  it. That was a one year as an
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  Arsenal fan. It was like, you know, he's not
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  quite done that what 2023, that season where he was unreal.
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  Do you know what I mean? He's not rather pushed on from
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  that. So that was what, yeah, I guess.
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  But he's he's not found his place.
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  But coming off the bench being that impact player has been
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  absolutely phenomenal for him because that might give him that
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  confidence to, you know, when he does play or does start.
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  It was just so Eze. You kind of touched on Eze.
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  Like, obviously I feel that at this moment in time, I just
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  think that he's trying too hard because he wants it so much and
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  it's like, do you know what I mean?
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  He's just like. I do get you.
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  Wanting to score, wanting to do that, that's like, yes, that's
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  what I mean. Like you think about the last
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  two or three games, he's had so many chances.
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  He's scored in the League Cup game or whatever that was, but
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  that's because he just took his time.
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  It's just shot, whereas the other ones he's just slashed out
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  because he just wants it. He wants it and he wants it, but
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  it will come. Again, your career is 100%
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  agree. In terms of this time Christmas,
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  you can judge him a little bit more on his scoring.
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  He didn't have no preseason. But his work quite is there.
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  You can see literally he's tracking back as well if you
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  watch as opposed to highlights. OK, he's missed this, you know,
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  whatever, I understand that. But when you do watch him play
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  full time, you see that there is the work rate.
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  He will try and be defenders, but he will also help back
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  defend if he can. And that's quite so awesome to
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  see. Like the playoff is.
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  Yeah, it's actually he's a big lad.
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  Like it's a fucking unit. But I still.
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  But he's. Not too similar, like Kyle
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  Abbott is huge, huge as well, but completely different player
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  and he's like he's not going to hang on that last offender to
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  get through on goal, Jamie, whereas he's just yeah, 2
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  completely different players there.
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  It is what Arsenal needed and you know, have not jinxed.
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  Hopefully I haven't jinxed it in terms of the ending of the
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  season, but I'd like to see. I remember 2000 we won the
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  invincible season. I was, you know, I'm sure my age
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  here. There is a generation of Arsenal
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  fans that just have only seen clips of that, but you know, we
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  got to kind of witness that and then.
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  Went up to hybrid and went up to the stadium with the tour, my
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  friend. And it was, it was phenomenal
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  that that that season and that that era, I shall say.
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  But we're not talking about Odd Arsenal.
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  No, I'm actually going to touch on sort of Arsenal's history,
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  though I'm not going to ask you like trivia or anything.
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  What I want to know from you. It's a fun question.
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  I want you to give me your all time Arsenal 5A side team.
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  You've got to have a goalkeeper though.
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  OK. And also 11 defender if you want
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  to mix up with like 3 midfielders.
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  But you do have to have a goalkeeper though.
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  Give me the goalkeeper. OK.
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  I think Raya, not going to lie, I think he is in terms of you
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  think about a 5A side team, right, You need a player that
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  can play with his feet. Yeah, yeah, Layman was
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  absolutely phenomenal. Seaman was phenomenal in his
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  time. But in terms of 5A side, all day
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  rare, just because he's just, he's so calm and the boy and he
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  can play football and we're talking 5A side, we're not
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  talking 11 a side. Here No, no, no, no.
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  I think that's a really good answer.
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  Now you think I'm like, I probably would have gone to like
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  play Seaman, but because. Of yeah, Seaman Layman, you're
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  going to let. Us say that, but not actually
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  thinking tactics as the manager like hold on, who's actually
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  going to like prevent, you know, less goals?
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  To play football when I was younger, so football was my
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  sport. So I was definitely thinking 5A
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  side wise, you're you're thinking someone with feet.
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  And then defender wise, probably actually Cole, again, similar
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  concepts, play with his feet, defends really well.
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  You know, look at him when he went to Chelsea, he was at
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  despite the fact that he went to Chelsea, I think as a player
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  he's still an Arsenal legend. No matter what, no matter what
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  anyone said, he he he was phenomenal.
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  He's probably the best, the best left back England has ever had
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  jump in for me personally I think.
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  He's brilliant. I was so desperate when I used
• 8:35
  to play football to try and play with my left foot as well and I
• 8:37
  always wanted to play left back. I couldn't do it.
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  I just couldn't do it. And.
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  Just I was so fascinated with him like once, like as a player
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  because of how good he was and the way he used to keep Ronaldo
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  at the time, you know, quite speed.
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  He wasn't quite the, you know, the GOAT Ronaldo, but the way he
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  used to keep yeah. He kept him, kept him under
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  wraps all the time. Yeah, so, so much.
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  In fact, Ronald decided to go and play left wing.
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  I'm not pointing out I'm actually.
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  Anymore. So what's that 2 defender for
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  me? Perez, Yunberg, Henri Dunn?
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  Nice. Nice you.
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  Think about my general I don't. I don't think in terms of
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  Arsenal wingers generational after Yunberg and Pires, those
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  two were absolutely beyond their years and they were unreal.
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  Like you look at them, like you look at what they did and their
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  movement, their play, that it was obviously the GOAT.
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  Enri is just Enri, isn't it? You're going to put it upfront.
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  I mean everyone no matter what year it is will know who Enri he
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  was, but I think Perez doesn't really get his flowers.
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  Yunberg as. Well, no man, obviously that's
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  my generation, that's we watched when we were younger.
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  That's the, that's the, you know, that Invincibles era
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  generational team, you know that midfield with Viera, Henri
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  Yunberg, Perez and and I left that Bergkamp.
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  I'm like that Newcastle goal. And then he like literally did
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  it for Holland as well, didn't he?
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  Was it before? He did it well, the the Holland
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  goal was before and then yeah, no, the the the same motion that
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  was afterwards, but he saw that he scored that other one in like
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  the EUR or something like that. Some mad fucking acrobatics.
• 10:21
  What kind of sweat? Apologies, I do.
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  Mate he literally changed football didn't he people?
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  Forgot. Yeah, I know.
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  Like even I was watching them. I watched a little clip the
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  other day and it was like Ian Wright, he had that interview
• 10:37
  and they were like, you've got, you've got your new manager
• 10:40
  coming in. And he was like, who?
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  Like he didn't know who he was and nobody did and nobody did.
• 10:46
  And if you think about the generations after that point,
• 10:49
  football has changed because of what he did and the way he
• 10:52
  treated it. It was.
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  It's a job at the end of the day.
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  We got a treat here with that most respect, you know, coming
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  on time, blah blah blah. Paid to diet.
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  Like, you know, the drinking culture just just got phased out
• 11:03
  massively quick because it was a big thing.
• 11:05
  I asked on the 90s. Yeah, if you think about Tony
• 11:08
  Adams and all that jazz, they were the the the team they had.
• 11:11
  But yeah, 100% it was so yeah, that I'd say Ryah just because I
• 11:17
  think footballing wise is is brilliant.
• 11:19
  He was so when he first came into Arsenal, it was just like,
• 11:22
  who's this? Why is he knocking out Ramsdale?
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  The only reason why you're going to get that is because Ramsdale
• 11:26
  was English. And it's like the knock on
• 11:29
  effect of the fact that he was an English player and he's
• 11:31
  getting dropped and it's like, but Ryah, it has been absolutely
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  phenomenal. I think as a final I was.
• 11:35
  Actually a bit guide for Ramsdale I did.
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  Generally, no, don't get me wrong, 100% yeah, He was
• 11:39
  brilliant. He did really well the season
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  before Ryah came in and he was like.
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  But he would get distracted quite easy, wouldn't he?
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  Just like like like. And.
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  Then it's fucking bad mind about our tech.
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  I was like, Oh no, don't get your family involved, you're
• 11:53
  dickhead. But the quiet decision we, you
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  know, look on the few years that's happened now, yeah, we've
• 11:59
  got probably all keepers in all of Europe.
• 12:02
  Yeah, no, definitely. I mean, he's kind of established
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  himself, hasn't he? And he's like some of the Daves
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  he pulls off. It's phenomenal.
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  And then 5A side goal mate, he'd be unbeatable, he'd be
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  brilliant. And.
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  Then had. To choose Ashley Cole, so he's
• 12:14
  going to be a. Little bit flair, a little bit
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  of, you know, quick pace. Yeah, I think I'd be all right.
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  I guess I didn't want to go for a Kolo Torre.
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  He just smashed someone in half every time.
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  But he was another exceptional talent, wasn't he?
• 12:27
  Kolo. Yeah, right.
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  Sorry. Talk about old Arsenal again.
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  But by midfield, I mean Junberg and Perez.
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  They were always my favorite. I always had Junberg on the back
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  of my shirt. He was, I remember watching a
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  like listening to or watching a little clip of Omri.
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  He complained. Did you know he complained when
• 12:47
  he played with Junberg? No.
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  Didn't know this. Yeah, he complained.
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  He said he's never there, he's never where I want him when I
• 12:55
  want to give him the ball. And Arsene Wenger said to him,
• 12:57
  he went, OK, where do you want him to be?
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  Play the ball there and you'll get there.
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  Like it was like, and Omri was like, OK.
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  And then it just worked. Because if you think about the
• 13:08
  way Youngberg used to run, he used to stay on the wing and
• 13:12
  sort of cut across and cut in and just be that sort of next
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  man coming in and he's like just watching him.
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  I was like, and then when that when they did the the analysis
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  at the end of the day, I was like, that's something real
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  like. I need to find this.
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  I definitely need to find this. Yeah, no, he there's a little
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  interview somewhere. Everyone really saying about
• 13:29
  playing in Bergen. It was like OK, also just
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  finished. In Rosberg, actually the second
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  one and going back to Bergkamp, like he just talks like he was
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  so happy that Bergkamp included means like all time Arsenal
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  team. He was so happy to hear that.
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  Yeah, he just I was like just he's like a big kid when it
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  comes to Wenger and which I'm quite surprised to be honest,
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  because he didn't play with Wenger that long.
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  But Wenger and Bergkamp, these players coming in and ultimately
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  he was sort of at the end of his.
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  Career. He was at the end, yeah.
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  Fortunately, and. Then you had the nail could come
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  in and then, you know, just kind of disappeared after that.
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  That's a shame because he looked like a fucking great player.
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  I mean did well in second season.
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  Obviously he's overshadowed with the treble with Man United, you
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  know, doing what he did, but Oh my God, if he stayed on mate,
• 14:15
  just who knows what happened, but then on.
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  Me, every single player that has played with him ever said unreal
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  talent, like he was brilliant no matter where he went and he he
• 14:25
  proved it because he won league title, off the league title,
• 14:28
  Champions League, whatever, World Cup, EUR, everything.
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  So he did really well, just a bit.
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  Of a tick. Yeah, yeah, but Ibramovich,
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  Ibramovich. Similar concept, isn't he?
• 14:39
  He's got that. I'm better than your attitude.
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  Oh, he knows. He'll let you know he don't care
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  and he'll back it up. And I do like it.
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  Up. And that's what's missing in,
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  in, in, in football. It's that arrogant swagger.
• 14:52
  It's a little bit too polite, a bit too nice.
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  Yeah. Like they're all mates, which is
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  which is fine. I mean, you all can be mates
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  because you're in national friends or whatever this that
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  now, but you're all friends. But at the end of the day, like
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  for us as a football fan, we want to see that passion.
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  We want to see that grip. We want to see that fight.
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  That's why I mean, the other day when when we played Newcastle
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  and you know, you had that Yocharism moment when the cell
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  was literally grabbed him by the throat and pulled him to the
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  floor. He just got straight back up
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  again and I thought that grip was just absolutely brilliant.
• 15:28
  That is what we need. We need that little bit.
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  Don't see that? In a lot of modern players now,
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  they'll be staying down Frasers until the ref comes over, makes
• 15:33
  a decision or not, and they're like oh oh miracle, back off.
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  100% is Britain. Their team just carried on Well
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  anyway. Well, sorry.
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  No, that's cool mate and I think he's just on the Ranger striker
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  for the five side team. 100% Henry.
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  It can't be anyone. I mean, yeah, I think Perkham is
• 15:50
  the toss up in it, but but for me, I'm really is my favorite
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  Arsenal strike of all time just because that's what I watched.
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  Nice. We got the Arsenal talk out of
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  the way. Wasn't too long but I thought it
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  was fucking fun. Hello there, I've got a special
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  announcement from my next guest. Oh, anyway, we're sat in people,
• 16:08
  which the ultimate geezer, Tony Tanner, and you're listening to
• 16:11
  the What Do You Call It podcast. They're Sabbat.
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  Yeah, open up with the rest in talk with some questions for you
• 16:25
  that I've received on my Instagram.
• 16:27
  What you call on Instagram. So here's the first one.
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  My boy, the conductor Freddie Hussain, friend of the show, has
• 16:36
  a question for you and he joined the London E crew.
• 16:44
  But I don't know if you're aware, but the last six months I
• 16:49
  have made A tag team with a couple of boys from his training
• 16:52
  school, Tyler James, Tyler Walker, sorry, James and Jimmy
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  Player, we're called South London Syndicate.
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  So we're not East London, we're not Central London, we're not
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  North London. So, and every day he, he, he,
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  he'll say something and he wants to join.
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  And the answer to the question is no.
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  Sorry, Freddie, it's still a no but.
• 17:18
  Sorry mate, you speak to you speak to T speak to Jimmy, but
• 17:23
  unfortunately you just lived the wrong side of the river.
• 17:28
  He doesn't say have a question also but he also says Ha Kane.
• 17:36
  Again, similar concept. He came up with a name.
• 17:39
  I'm going to call myself Ha Kane.
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  Like Kane and I just wanted to be cool in front of it.
• 17:44
  So yeah, to be fair, like he's fairly new in this in the
• 17:49
  business and he's somebody that I feel has a great work ethic in
• 17:56
  terms of he wants to work on himself, he wants to push.
• 17:59
  He's got his little character. He's trying to get himself out
• 18:02
  there. He's getting his bookings and
• 18:04
  every time he gets the booking, he does fantastic.
• 18:06
  And you always get good feedback.
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  He he's someone from a great training school as well.
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  I mean, what he trains down with Greg Burridge, who is absolutely
• 18:14
  phenomenal trainer. So he has the right people
• 18:16
  behind him and there's a little collective of them now,
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  obviously Tyler Walker being one of them.
• 18:21
  I mean, Tanner you've had on there as well and that there
• 18:24
  there's a little collective of them which are spreading out.
• 18:26
  I mean, Greg as a trainer, he has just one of those minds.
• 18:32
  So having that little conduct, A gimmick that he has, and it's,
• 18:36
  it's brilliant, it's good, and it's it's.
• 18:38
  Really over live shows, I've seen it twice now and it's how
• 18:42
  can you not like this man? Just do do, and he's really fun
• 18:46
  to watch in the ring as well. He's naturally likeable as well,
• 18:50
  and that's just something you can't fake and wrestling.
• 18:53
  You know, you can try as hard as you can to get those, you know,
• 18:56
  high fives from the fans, but you know, if they can sense that
• 18:59
  you're fakely, this isn't really you, whatever, then they're just
• 19:02
  going to be like. 111 of the the greatest sayings in wrestling is
• 19:07
  William Regal said it. He was.
• 19:09
  You need to like, you need to come out like no one knows you,
• 19:17
  OK, No matter who you are, no matter what event, no matter how
• 19:20
  many times I've seen you, you come out like no one knows you.
• 19:24
  So let's say Freddy, for instance, he comes out to to
• 19:30
  straight away. Everyone knows who you are.
• 19:33
  He's got something and that's it.
• 19:35
  He's just Choo, Choo and that's it.
• 19:37
  Everyone is it the whole match. Pause is is you know he's far
• 19:41
  up, whatever, but but that's it. Everyone knows is it Instant,
• 19:46
  instantaneously, the whole you've got the whole crowd going
• 19:49
  to bloody tooth. Yo E yo E even my missus was
• 19:53
  doing it as well. When we went to the show last
• 19:55
  month, she was like. I did I it's so sorry like I.
• 20:02
  A couple of baby baby what babyface will rest for us a
• 20:05
  couple of times back end of probably not last year before
• 20:09
  some of that anyway. And I was like, I'm not really
• 20:11
  worried babyfaces often and I was like, OK, and I just started
• 20:16
  barking like and by the end of the match, how old are you to
• 20:21
  do? And that's it.
• 20:23
  That Choo Choo gimmicks the same thing.
• 20:25
  You're giving them something to remember you or recognize you at
• 20:28
  the end of the show. I'm pretty sure everyone comes
• 20:30
  up to it and go Choo Choo. And, and, and it shows.
• 20:34
  He, he puts in so much work and his, his facials, his
• 20:39
  expressions, he, and that's it. They're going to remember.
• 20:42
  They're not going to remember the 4:50 you did with the
• 20:44
  Canadian destroyer afterwards. Not that audience anyway.
• 20:48
  Like in terms of the audience, these target audience.
• 20:50
  So family and friends and kids, they're going to go, if they see
• 20:54
  a 450, they're going to go, oh, that's cool.
• 20:56
  But they're going to remember the Choo Choo guy.
• 20:58
  Yeah, they're going to go their way home.
• 21:03
  Shout out to Freddie. Freddie, you're good, man.
• 21:06
  Another question for you, for Ben's.
• 21:08
  So I'm going to assume his first name is Ben.
• 21:10
  Seems to be like a friend of show so far.
• 21:12
  I'm happy he asked. If you have one, what is your
• 21:15
  favorite match of your career? Favorite match of my career is
• 21:24
  you know, I'm not going to lie, I've probably forgotten more
• 21:27
  matches than I can remember because the amount of times I've
• 21:30
  I've I've wrestled people like we've wrestled at XYZ however
• 21:35
  many moons ago. So my favorite match, I'm going
• 21:41
  to say my not my favorite match. My favorite matches I've had
• 21:47
  have been in the last year as the Genesis Professional
• 21:54
  Wrestling World Champion. The reason being is because I'm
• 22:00
  getting to wrestle a lot of the Gem Pro Academy that those guys
• 22:07
  are starting to break out. Those guys are starting to make
• 22:09
  it onto other shows. Those guys.
• 22:12
  So me being the the veteran, the pro and the champion.
• 22:18
  Is it over a year now or is it just under?
• 22:21
  It was 315 days. It will be on the next show on
• 22:26
  the 18th of October and Snodland, that'll be 315 days as
• 22:31
  champion. So in terms of that, what I mean
• 22:33
  by this is I'm giving these boys an opportunity to wrestle main
• 22:40
  event, world title style match. And it's something that although
• 22:47
  I'm capable of doing, I've not too often, if you know what I
• 22:53
  mean. So having that platform to do it
• 22:57
  and help and guide these boys to help themselves and understand
• 23:03
  what the difference is between your first and your last, you
• 23:09
  know what I mean? So having that opportunity.
• 23:12
  So I've like, I've defended my title.
• 23:14
  If you think about my last one, I had my last title match I had
• 23:17
  with a guy, Christian Croft, who is absolutely phenomenal young
• 23:21
  talent and just is hungry. That match was completely
• 23:26
  different to the match I had at the previous show against
• 23:29
  Raymond O'Reilly. And Raymond O'Reilly is an
• 23:36
  exceptional talent for his age. So he had two completely
• 23:39
  different matches, styles of matches, and both matches were
• 23:46
  main event world title matches. If you're not, is that make
• 23:49
  sense? No, I get it, they were so they
• 23:50
  were different, but they were both for the world title.
• 23:54
  Yes, and they were. That but also made you kind of
• 24:00
  switch up maybe. So one thing you can do for this
• 24:02
  match, actually I'll do, I'll go different direction this match
• 24:05
  and this style. And it's kind of like, you know,
• 24:07
  Flair, like you'd wrestle all these different kind of
• 24:09
  opponents across the road. You know, it's, you can't just
• 24:12
  have the same match every night because if that's the same
• 24:14
  audience, they're going to know. Yeah, 100%.
• 24:17
  And that's it. I mean the, the, the crowd in
• 24:19
  which Gen. Gen.
• 24:19
  Pro have accumulated over the last what, couple of years now
• 24:24
  will kind of it was like a kick start of the of the Federation.
• 24:29
  That crowd have followed us on this lovely little journey to
• 24:33
  get to where we are. If they saw the same match every
• 24:36
  time, they'd be like, well, what's the point?
• 24:37
  They wouldn't return no. Yeah, so for me, it was like I
• 24:41
  needed to push myself and those lands, they they probably don't
• 24:45
  know it, but they've helped me push myself and help me put on a
• 24:49
  better show and a better match and XYZ.
• 24:51
  So I would say, you know, at Gem Pro over the last year, nearly a
• 24:59
  year now, I've had probably some of my my most favorite matches.
• 25:02
  And yeah, I definitely enjoyed that.
• 25:07
  But there is one other though. Sorry.
• 25:09
  Let me just turn the light on because it's getting dark.
• 25:11
  No worries. Mr. Tommy Tanner So I wrestled
• 25:18
  Tommy Tanner at Braves end the night he won the belt.
• 25:25
  So for for Rumble he won the belt for Rumble so that night he
• 25:29
  won the belt. So we went on 1st and the the
• 25:35
  win of the match gets a pre briefcase to to challenge for
• 25:40
  the title later on that night or or whenever they want it.
• 25:44
  And obviously watching wrestling and knowing what's going on, I
• 25:49
  was like, OK, I need to make this, this this Tommy Tanner, I
• 25:57
  need to make him look like a star.
• 26:02
  So I said it, it was like I needed to make that feeling
• 26:08
  because, you know, Labour, when he does challenge for the belt,
• 26:15
  they want to know that this person is credible when he when
• 26:19
  he challenged, yeah, it builds him up.
• 26:22
  So that was probably one of my funniest matches I've had in the
• 26:25
  last year or so. Like I really enjoyed that match
• 26:28
  because Tommy is a person. Since that point, I feel it's
• 26:33
  just grown and grown and grown and he he kind of started to get
• 26:36
  things a little bit more. And that was one of the people
• 26:38
  that the Choo Choo gimmick. Yeah.
• 26:40
  I was saying you need something like, you know what I mean?
• 26:42
  You need that little bit of in between.
• 26:44
  So yeah, I think definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:49
  Well, like geezer, that's about all he does.
• 26:51
  He's he's. Doing guitar though, like, you
• 26:53
  know, a really good guest and the fact that you gave him that
• 26:55
  opportunity to sort of elevate him with that style of match and
• 26:59
  build him up as a credible opponent as well.
• 27:02
  I think I think that's that's that's that's the one thing that
• 27:05
  it was really appreciative of it literally like understood.
• 27:08
  And like having comments like he's he's one.
• 27:12
  I think it's brother-in-law was the old somebody who was like,
• 27:14
  that's probably one of the best matches you had on my ear.
• 27:16
  But that was what he needed. And it was what in terms of at
• 27:20
  that point, Jimmy, since that point, he's he's fucking done
• 27:23
  Whatever Joey is is is phenomenal.
• 27:26
  So yeah, I'd say that was probably one of my favourites
• 27:30
  that I've had, Rick, But I even remember what I did last week,
• 27:32
  let alone what I did. Like this is 19 years in this
• 27:36
  game. I'm like, oh, I think.
• 27:39
  He gave a good answer for Ben, but or Ben Ben, Ben, I don't
• 27:42
  know. I always have to say the name up
• 27:43
  times. That's just how his it's grab
• 27:45
  name is. So give him a follow if you can
• 27:46
  as well. And last question for you, it's
• 27:49
  from the username guy. UCU wants to know what do you
• 27:54
  think about pro vesting in Cyprus?
• 27:57
  Absolute Cyprus wrestling? ACWI think to be specific this.
• 28:02
  One specific, so the last couple of years, obviously MyHeritage
• 28:10
  is Turkish Cypriot. OK, So my family are from
• 28:13
  Cyprus, Northern Cyprus to be specific.
• 28:16
  So as a professional wrestler, to see a company or an
• 28:23
  opportunity for people to do what I've done for 19 years and
• 28:30
  a school open up in essentially my, my family's back garden
• 28:37
  essentially for that, for that point, like when it opened up
• 28:40
  and I saw it, I was like, that is absolutely unreal.
• 28:46
  Last this summer gone, I managed to get down to the training
• 28:52
  school and just have a little roll of that with these guys and
• 28:55
  have a little training session. And mostly, I mean, unlike here,
• 29:01
  you know, you've got kids classes and every school in the
• 29:04
  world if within a five mile radius of each other.
• 29:07
  So much opportunity. There was nothing up until a
• 29:11
  year ago. Do you know what I mean?
• 29:13
  There was. No, it was like nothing at all.
• 29:15
  Like no matter how hard you look to talk.
• 29:18
  No, I mean, I mean there is. So now in theory there's 2.
• 29:24
  So you've got there's another company that runs on like Comic
• 29:30
  Con sort of events, but they just bring imports in.
• 29:33
  So Tommy, Tommy Tanner was there, Tate Tate was there and
• 29:36
  Driss was there and load of other people were there this
• 29:39
  past weekend. But that's only in Comic Con.
• 29:41
  Like so there wasn't nothing. But also they don't run a
• 29:44
  training school. So I went there with my eldest
• 29:49
  Felix, who is also training as well.
• 29:50
  He's six months into training and I thought I'll take you
• 29:54
  there and it'll be a good opportunity for you to see how
• 29:57
  other schools run and see what they do.
• 29:59
  So I went there knowing the fact that OK, majorities guys are
• 30:07
  fairly new, one year wrestling stay what they're like.
• 30:11
  The hunger is unreal like most these guys.
• 30:17
  So what I want in in England, you're looking, you know, some
• 30:21
  people start 141516, you know around about 20 ish.
• 30:26
  Most of these guys, you know, back in the 20 early 30s, you
• 30:31
  know, summer mid 30s. So to have that opportunity to
• 30:37
  do what you've loved to watch for such a long time, turn up at
• 30:41
  your back. I mean, the guy who runs it,
• 30:43
  Sasha, he's a guy who's wrestled around the world.
• 30:47
  He had a triumph WWE way back when.
• 30:50
  And he is quite militant in the way he does stuff.
• 30:53
  He's quite regimented. Like this is the way I want to
• 30:55
  see it, this the style I want to see it.
• 30:57
  And he kind of put it in perspective.
• 30:58
  He's like this, this, this island as a whole is a virgin to
• 31:03
  wrestling. This is not so for me.
• 31:06
  And you, you know, we grew up in that Attitude era.
• 31:08
  We watched it on TV and you know it's available.
• 31:11
  All the time. Don't try the corner like local
• 31:12
  shows you like, you know. It's not what I mean.
• 31:15
  Yeah, they have none of that, none of that up until a year ago
• 31:20
  like LA, I want to say maybe last December is when they sort
• 31:24
  of. There must have been some kind
• 31:25
  of hunger for it as well, like a wrestling scene to be imported
• 31:28
  into Cyprus. It was, it was there was
• 31:31
  nothing. There was absolutely nothing.
• 31:32
  So, so for for me to go there and see them and watch their
• 31:36
  passion and watch the way that they're doing things.
• 31:39
  I mean, they're doing things the right way.
• 31:42
  Obviously the coach has his way of doing things, which is fine,
• 31:45
  and that's the way he wants to do it.
• 31:47
  Me being me, I understand that wrestling's more than just one
• 31:51
  way is a bit more of an entertainment show.
• 31:53
  So I just said to those guys, you're brilliant.
• 31:56
  You can see the hunger, you can see the drive, you can see the
• 31:58
  work ethic. They, I mean, they have a show
• 32:01
  once every three months. They just had one news couple
• 32:04
  weeks ago and the next one's in mid-december, end of December.
• 32:09
  And it's something that I personally would love to be a
• 32:14
  part of just because of the fact that I've been in this game for
• 32:17
  such a long time and to know the fact that I can go to my parents
• 32:22
  motherland and go and wrestle on a show in that when they first
• 32:27
  popped up, I was like, no way. It's like would have been
• 32:31
  unheard of. So are.
• 32:35
  You wrestled over there yet? I need to train in the seminar.
• 32:37
  But. I went, I went.
• 32:39
  I went in August. Yeah, I went in August.
• 32:42
  I went to a training session. I had a blast and fun and lots
• 32:46
  of fun actually. Obviously took my aunt took my
• 32:49
  oldest with me who also had fun. And it's quite hard when when
• 32:57
  the person who is running the training school and does the
• 33:00
  bookends don't know who you are. I mean, for what reason would he
• 33:04
  bring me there? Yeah.
• 33:06
  There's no reason he doesn't know who I am, he doesn't know
• 33:09
  what I do. I can send them a load of
• 33:11
  matches but that doesn't show me if you know what I mean.
• 33:17
  So by me going and showing my face and going to a training
• 33:20
  school, it also enabled him to see me.
• 33:25
  And. What I can do?
• 33:27
  I don't know if you know about island of Cyprus much, but it's
• 33:30
  actually an island of two halves.
• 33:34
  I don't get out much. It's like it's an island of two
• 33:37
  halves, split in the middle, basically North and South, Greek
• 33:41
  and Turkish. Yeah, So it's split in half.
• 33:43
  There's a big border in the middle.
• 33:45
  It's the only capital in the world that crosses over two
• 33:48
  countries, which is a different fact anyway.
• 33:52
  So to cross from one side of the island to the other side of the
• 33:55
  island, you have to go through a border checkpoint.
• 33:59
  There is a young man who's actually from Northern Cyprus,
• 34:02
  which is where I'm my family are from, who crosses over the
• 34:06
  border three times a week just to go training, just because
• 34:11
  he's had that that wanting to do it for such a long time and it
• 34:15
  was nothing. And then it's got an
• 34:16
  opportunity, but just for him mid to this journey in order to,
• 34:21
  you know, conquer his dream as Man City.
• 34:24
  And I'm. Just out there be like, oh, I
• 34:26
  just drive there like 20 minutes of that.
• 34:30
  But that shows the dedication. I mean, wrestling for me is
• 34:32
  dedication. It's hunger, it's tribe, it's
• 34:34
  wanting to improve, it's wanting to get to where you want to get
• 34:36
  to. And the fact that he drives, you
• 34:39
  know, across the border to a different country, essentially
• 34:43
  just to train and to mix up with in theory, like, if you think
• 34:48
  about it, these two nationalities are rivals on a
• 34:52
  political scale. Yeah.
• 34:55
  And, you know, but in terms of when they get there, they
• 35:00
  literally are like any other wrestling school.
• 35:02
  They're a collective. They're a family.
• 35:04
  They, you know, no matter where you're from, what nationality,
• 35:06
  what race you are, they, they pretty much took each other
• 35:10
  like, and just, and that was it. And, and that was the embrace I
• 35:15
  got. Like despite the fact that they
• 35:17
  didn't even know who I am, a couple of them followed me and
• 35:19
  kind of like saw that I have been wrestling.
• 35:21
  And so they kind of asked me a few questions here and there.
• 35:25
  And then one of them got one of them who is actually a native
• 35:28
  Greek Cypriot who who was like, it just would love to wrestle
• 35:31
  me. I'm like, yeah, OK, we'll see
• 35:33
  how it goes and hopefully 2026 A/C WI will be there, but we've
• 35:38
  got to see what happens. I think you will mate.
• 35:41
  Obviously the question popped into my inbox so.
• 35:44
  Well, yeah, let's see what happens.
• 35:45
  I I'll share it with them. But but there's.
• 35:48
  Shows enough. No, no, no.
• 35:50
  But then, like, sorry, just talk about dedication and wrestling.
• 35:53
  This, that and the other. I kind of vaguely mentioned my
• 35:56
  eldest, Felix. Yeah.
• 35:57
  So Felix is 14 years old, as you do as a youngster.
• 36:01
  Most of the time we play football, don't we?
• 36:03
  That's what we do. Yeah.
• 36:05
  OK, so he's played for the last Four Seasons, won a couple of
• 36:08
  leaks, won a, you know, little cup.
• 36:10
  Brilliant. He did really good for his team.
• 36:12
  And then end of the last season, the Felix went to me and said I
• 36:17
  want to start wrestling. I said brilliant, cool.
• 36:19
  What do you want to do, wrestling or football?
• 36:23
  And I was like, it was. So he's taken ages to decide
• 36:25
  well, or do football, wrestling, football, wrestling.
• 36:27
  I love football but also want to wrestle.
• 36:30
  I said sweet, brilliant, sweet wrestling.
• 36:33
  So Genesis Professional Wrestling is down the road from
• 36:36
  us. Yeah, a lovely training
• 36:38
  facility. I said to him.
• 36:41
  Dedication. You want to wrestle?
• 36:45
  The bus stop is at the top of our Rd.
• 36:59
  Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages,
• 37:03
  it's time for What Do You Call It podcast.