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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello, this is Kelly Taylor, and I'll be your host
- 0:04for Radioized Diary of Science and Nature. I'll have some
- 0:08articles on the topics of science and nature. But first
- 0:11a reminder that radioe is a reading service intended for
- 0:15people who are blind or have other disabilities that make
- 0:18it difficult to read printed material. First up, we have
- 0:24an article from Popular Science with an interesting title. Without dinosaurs,
- 0:29there'd be no Thanksgiving dinner. And this is dated November
- 0:33twenty fifth, written by Andrew Paul. It's hard to pick
- 0:37a favorite dish on your Thanksgiving plate, but regardless of
- 0:41your selection, there's a decent chance its history can be
- 0:45traced back to one of the most cataclysmic events in
- 0:49Earth's history. Quote. The dinosaur's absence meant changes in the
- 0:54forest structure. You went from a more open canopy to
- 0:58a more closed can rainforest, explains Mike Donovan, a paleobotanist
- 1:05and the Fossil Plants Collections manager at Chicago's Field Museum. Quote.
- 1:12This denser rainforest provided an opportunity for plants that grew
- 1:17on vines on tree trunks, including things like grapes and legumes.
- 1:25Around sixty six million years ago, a six point two
- 1:28mile wide asteroid slammed into the present day Gulf of
- 1:32Mexico and ushered in the final days of non avian dinosaurs.
- 1:37This Cretaceous Paleogene extinction event ultimately wiped out at least
- 1:44three quarters of all species, including the planet's raining reptiles.
- 1:50But dinosaurs, reptiles, and other animals weren't the only species
- 1:53that died off. Plenty of flora from global ecosystems disappeared too.
- 1:58According to Donovan, the u ecological gaps didn't remain barren
- 2:02for long. Quote. Many of the plants that evolved in
- 2:06the years following the extinction of the dinosaurs are foundational
- 2:10in the food chain. They make up huge portions of
- 2:13our diet and are involved in building, construction, materials, and pharmaceuticals.
- 2:18He said, really, we couldn't survive without them. Quote green beans, yams, coffee, cacao.
- 2:29All these and more only began developing after Earth's megafauna disappeared,
- 2:34granting them the space and time to flourish in what
- 2:37eventually became present day rainforests. Like dinosaurs, the ancestors of
- 2:42today's beloved Thanksgiving ingredients are often preserved as fossil specimens
- 2:48in the geological record. Many examples are currently on display
- 2:52at the Field Museum in the temporary exhibit After the
- 2:56Age of Dinosaurs. Quote. The fossil record of plants from
- 3:00this time shows us how these living plants evolved, where
- 3:04they came from, how they changed over time, said Donovan.
- 3:08From them, we can also learn about how plants may
- 3:11need or may react to things like environmental changes in
- 3:15the future by stepping in the past. Now, let's learn
- 3:24a little bit more about plants. With an article from
- 3:26Scientific America dated November twenty fifth, the headline is this
- 3:31fossil is rewriting the story of how plants spread across
- 3:35the planet, written by Taylor Mitchell Brown. Around four hundred
- 3:41and ten million years ago, terrestrial life was relatively simple.
- 3:46There were no forests or prairies. Land was largely dominated
- 3:50by slimy microbial mats, the types of plants that would
- 3:54eventually give rise to trees and flowers. It only just
- 3:57evolved and would take another several million years to fully
- 4:01flourish and diversify. A new discovery is rewriting the story
- 4:05of how these vascular plants, as they're called spread onto land.
- 4:10Researchers may have finally resolved a debate about an enigmatic
- 4:14but widespread fossil called spongiophytin. It seems to have been
- 4:19a strange life form called a lichen that may have
- 4:22helped pave the way for plants to thrive on land.
- 4:27The discovery, published recently in Science Advances, settles a question
- 4:31that had been opened for over a century, says paleontologist
- 4:35Giovan Gaia of the Institute of Geosciences at the State
- 4:39University of Campinas in Brazil, who was not involved with
- 4:43the research. Quote. Until now, most people thought lichens appeared
- 4:47only after vascular plants, but this study shows they were
- 4:50already there at the beginning, literally helping prepare the ground
- 4:54for plant life. Lichens are the symbiotic result of fungi
- 5:01and photosynthetic algae or sinobacteria working together. Today that amalgam
- 5:08helps churn lifeless rocks and sediments into nutrient rich soil everywhere,
- 5:13from polar deserts to tropical forests, says study lead author
- 5:17Bruno Becker Kerber, a palaeontologist at Harvard. Vascular plants have
- 5:22tissues that funnel those soil nutrients from the ground to
- 5:26their stems. And leaves. Because lichen's soft body tissues are
- 5:30rarely preserved in the fossil record, their origins have remained mysterious.
- 5:35A twenty nineteen genetic analysis suggested they evolved well after
- 5:39the emergence of vascular plants, indicating they likely played little
- 5:43to no role in early land colonization. Scientists have long
- 5:48debated whether spongiophytin, which flourished around four hundred two million
- 5:53years ago, was lichen or algae. To determine the fossil's identity,
- 5:58becker Kerber and his colleagues analyzed the underlying chemical properties
- 6:03of lingering organic material within the fossils. Unlike algae, which
- 6:08are lined with cell walls, lichen contain fungi lined with kitan,
- 6:13the same material that makes up the exoskeletons of insects.
- 6:18Kitan is loaded with nitrogen, and the team's results turned
- 6:21up an unmistakable nitrogen signal. Quote. The more we tested it,
- 6:25the more consistent the signal became. It was genuinely exciting.
- 6:30Becker Kerber says there were other fungal traits present too,
- 6:35such as a distinct branching pattern exhibited by growing fungal
- 6:39cells called hyphi. The results suggest liken evolved around four
- 6:44hundred ten million years ago, shortly after the initials spread
- 6:47of vascular plants four hundred twenty million years ago, and
- 6:52just before the earliest known forests around three hundred and
- 6:55ninety million years ago. Quote. It's a major shift in
- 6:59how we view the complexity of life's first steps onto land.
- 7:03Becker Kerber says spongiophytin likely weathered rocks, stabilized sediments, cycled nutrients,
- 7:12and contributed to the formation of protos soils just before
- 7:16forests developed. Matthew Nelson, an evolutionary biologist at the Field
- 7:24Museum of Natural History, says, if spongiophytin was a lichen,
- 7:29it may have enabled the expansion of land plants into
- 7:32areas previously uncolonized. The new picture suggests like an emerged
- 7:38near the beginning of terrestrial plant history, and the unique
- 7:41fungi algae relationship may have been essential to the spread
- 7:45of plants. Quote. People often tell the story of life's
- 7:48move onto land as a plant story. Becker Kerber says,
- 7:53what our study shows is that fungi and lichens were
- 7:56also part of it. Now we have an article from
- 8:03Wired magazine and the headline is the Climate impact of
- 8:08owning a Dog by Claire Elise Thompson on November twenty second.
- 8:15I've been a vegetarian for over a decade. It's not
- 8:17because of my health or because I disliked the taste
- 8:20of chicken or beef. It's a lifestyle choice I made
- 8:23because I wanted to reduce my impact on the planet.
- 8:26And yet, twice a day, every day, I lovingly scoop
- 8:29a cup of meat based kibble into a bowl and
- 8:32set it down for my fifty pound rescue dog, a
- 8:36husky mix named Loki. Until recently, I hadn't devoted a
- 8:40huge amount of a thought to that paradox. Then I
- 8:43read an article in the Associated Press headlined people often
- 8:47miscalculate climate choices, a study says, one surprise is owning
- 8:52a dog. The study, led by environmental psychology researcher Danielle
- 8:57Goldwork and published in the journal PNAS Nexus, examine how
- 9:03people perceived the climate impact of various behaviors options like
- 9:07adopt a vegan diet for at least one year, or
- 9:11shift from fossil fuel car to renewable public transport. The
- 9:15team found that participants generally overestimated a number of low
- 9:19impact actions like recycling and using efficient appliances, and they
- 9:24vastly underestimated the impact of other personal decisions, including the
- 9:28decision to quote, not purchase, or adopt a dog in quote.
- 9:33The real objective of the study was to see whether
- 9:36certain types of climate information could help people commit to
- 9:40more effective actions, But mere hours after the AP published
- 9:44its article, its aim had been recast as something else,
- 9:48entirely an attack on people's furry family members. Quote climate
- 9:54change is actually your fault because you have a dog,
- 9:56one ready user wrote. Others in the community chimed in
- 10:00with ire, ridiculing the idea that a pet chihuahua could
- 10:04be driving the climate crisis and calling on researchers and
- 10:08the media to stop pointing fingers at everyday individuals. Goldwert
- 10:14and her fellow researchers watched the reactions unfold with dismay.
- 10:20Quote if I saw a headline that said climate scientists
- 10:23want to take your dog away, I would also feel upset.
- 10:25She said, they definitely don't. You can quote me on that.
- 10:31The study set out to understand how to shift behavior
- 10:34by communicating climate truths instead, its media coverage revealed a
- 10:39troubling psychological trade off. When climate related messaging strikes a nerve,
- 10:44it may actually turn people off from the work of
- 10:46shifting its societal norms. It's an instinct I understand on
- 10:51some level. I love Loki, and my knee jerk reaction
- 10:55is to defend the very personal choice of sharing one's
- 10:57life with a dog. I also so sympathized with redirecting
- 11:02the blame toward the biggest polluters, billionaires and fossil fuel companies.
- 11:07Not bonbond the pet shuawei in question. But is it
- 11:11irresponsible to shrug off any conversation about the environmental impact
- 11:15of our pets, something far more within our control than, say,
- 11:19the overflow of the overthrow of capitalism? Is there a
- 11:24way to have a frank discussion about the climate impact
- 11:26of our own personal lives without going to the dogs. Oftentimes,
- 11:31when I'm questioning how a particular climate behavior might fit
- 11:34in my life, I try to imagine how it looks
- 11:37in my vision of a sustainable future. It's why, for instance,
- 11:41I don't own a car and am dedicated to writing
- 11:43public transit, even though it isn't always super convenient. I'm
- 11:47keen to be an early adopter of systems I believe in,
- 11:51but I struggle to imagine a future without companion animals.
- 11:54Even knowing about their environmental impact, which is admittedly substantial.
- 12:00Dogs and cats eat meat heavy diets, which is where
- 12:03the bulk of their carbon pawprint comes from. A twenty
- 12:06seventeen study from UCLA found that dogs and cats are
- 12:10responsible for about twenty five to thirty percent of the
- 12:13environmental impact of meat consumption in the United States. That's
- 12:18equivalent to a year's worth of driving by thirteen and
- 12:22a half million cars. For pets that eat traditional kibble
- 12:26or wet food, that protein may come from meat byproducts
- 12:30otherwise wasted animal parts such as organs and bones not
- 12:35approved for human consumption, but an increasing number of pet
- 12:39owners are opting to feed their fur babies human grade
- 12:43meat products, which requires additional resources and generates extra emissions.
- 12:50After they eat, of course, they poop a lot, at
- 12:54least for dogs. That poop typically gets bagged in plastic
- 12:57and sent to the landfill, and it turns out all
- 13:00of biodegradable poop bags I've diligently bought over the years
- 13:03don't help matters much. They also release greenhouse gases in landfills,
- 13:08and most composting programs don't accept pet waste. With more
- 13:14dogs around than ever before, the US dog population has
- 13:17steadily increased from fifty two million in nineteen ninety six
- 13:21to a new peak of ninety million in twenty twenty four.
- 13:25Their overall climate toll is more than a chihuahua sized issue.
- 13:30But pets are also more than just sources of carbon pollution.
- 13:34According to a twenty twenty three Pew Research poll, ninety
- 13:37seven percent of owners say they consider their pets to
- 13:40be part of their families, with fifty one percent of
- 13:43respondents saying they are on the same level as a
- 13:46human family member. So whenever their climate impact crops up
- 13:50in the discourse, as it has periodically, it makes sense
- 13:53that people tend to get defensive. This don't you dare
- 13:57take away my dog? You horrible environmentally backlash is certainly
- 14:02not the first time the climate movement has been accused
- 14:05of depriving people of the things they love. Climate policy
- 14:09has long been painted as a force for austerity, coming
- 14:13for your burghers, your gas stoves, your coal mining jobs.
- 14:17That framing has been politically potent used by fossil fuel
- 14:21interests in their allies to stoke resentment and delay government action.
- 14:26Big oil at once wants us to believe that the
- 14:29climate crisis is our fault and that we shouldn't have
- 14:32to give up anything to fix it. For some climate advocates,
- 14:36the solution has been to shift messaging away from individual
- 14:40responsibility and focus instead on big systemic changes like overhauling
- 14:45our electricity and transit systems through governmental investment and clean energy.
- 14:51In her essay I work in the environmental movement, I
- 14:54don't care if you recycle, author and podcaster Mary Annace
- 14:59Hegler wrote, quote, the belief that this enormous existential problem
- 15:03could have been fixed if all of us had just
- 15:05tweaked our consumptive habits is not only preposterous, it's dangerous.
- 15:10Its victim blaming, plain and simple. Egler and others have
- 15:16taken a strong stance against environmental purity, the idea that
- 15:20you can't care about or advocate for systems level change
- 15:24if you aren't first changing your own habits. But not
- 15:27everyone agrees that individual actions should be completely de emphasized.
- 15:31In the Climate conversation, Kimberly Nicholas, a climate scientist and author,
- 15:36of the popular book Under the Sky We Make has
- 15:39argued that wealthy people living in wealthy countries and globally
- 15:44wealthy is a lower bar than you might think do
- 15:47have a responsibility to slash their outsized carbon emissions, and
- 15:51particularly for those of us living in democracies, personal action
- 15:55isn't just about the choices we make as consumers. Quote,
- 16:00there's still an ongoing tension between personal and system change,
- 16:04or individual and collective action. Nicholas said, it's really hard
- 16:08to get that right, to get the right balance there
- 16:11that acknowledges the role and the importance of both, and
- 16:14to talk about and study and describe both in a
- 16:17way that motivates people to take high impact actions. In
- 16:22Ute Goldwortz saw that tension play out in her maligned
- 16:27climate communications study. In the experiment, participants reviewed twenty one
- 16:32individual climate actions like eating less meat, and five systemic
- 16:37actions like voting, and rated their commitments to taking each action.
- 16:43Two test groups then received clarifying information about the relative
- 16:47impact of the twenty one individual actions. One group was
- 16:52asked to estimate their ranking before learning how they actually ranked.
- 16:57The other group received the information straight up, but participants
- 17:01didn't receive any data about the carbon mitigation potential of
- 17:05the five collective actions, which would be far more difficult
- 17:09to quantify. What Goldort's team found surprised them. The teachings
- 17:15did nudge people toward higher impact personal actions, but their
- 17:19stated likelihood of engaging in collective ones actually went down,
- 17:24a backfire effect that hints at the perils of focusing
- 17:28too much on personal lifestyle choices. Quote. It might be
- 17:33kind of like a mental substitution, Goldward said. People feel like, Okay,
- 17:37I've done my part individually. I kind of checked the
- 17:40box on climate action. Participants were also asked to rate
- 17:46the plasticity of each of the actions, or how easy
- 17:49it would be to adopt, and those measurements revealed another
- 17:53nuance in how people view different forms of climate action.
- 17:56For the individual focused options, participants were more likely to
- 18:00commit to actions they saw as requiring little effort. For
- 18:04the systemic actions, they were more interested in whether it
- 18:07would have an impact, something researchers are still working on quantifying. Quote.
- 18:13If you think voting or marching is just symbolic or ineffective,
- 18:17you're not going to engage. Goldwort said. We have to
- 18:20show people evidence that their voice or their vote can
- 18:23shift policy, corporate practices, or social norms in quote, I,
- 18:29for one, was surprised to see that participants rated the
- 18:32commitment to quote not purchase or adopt a dog as easy.
- 18:36When I asked Goldwort what might be behind that, she
- 18:39noted that dog ownership is a decision people don't make
- 18:43very often. It also doesn't require any action at all
- 18:46for people who already don't own dogs. The results surely
- 18:50would have been different if the listed action was get
- 18:52rid of your existing dog, which it was not a
- 18:55point that readers seemed to miss. Based on comments about
- 18:58the study and there emails Goldwort said she received. Still,
- 19:03for an animal lover like me, the idea of never
- 19:06adopting another dog doesn't feel easy to commit to at all.
- 19:10It feels like an immense sacrifice. The sadness I feel
- 19:13at the thought of a future without dogs points me
- 19:16to another important factor when it comes to motivation for
- 19:19climate action. Joy. Actions we take to try to mitigate
- 19:24a climate crisis may be partially driven by how easy
- 19:27they are for us or how effective we believe them
- 19:30to be, but any choice we make is also driven
- 19:34by what we find joy in. It's an essential part
- 19:38of staying committed and resilient in the fight for a
- 19:41better future. In this way, carbon intensive activities like dog
- 19:45ownership have value beyond their weight in emissions. Quote. People
- 19:50have an emotional attachment to the people in animals and
- 19:53creatures that we love, Nicholas said, and that is actually,
- 19:56I think very powerful. We're not only going to solve
- 19:58climate change by life up all the numbers. We certainly
- 20:02need to do that, but we have to tap into
- 20:04what people really care about and realize all those things
- 20:08are on the line and threatened by the amount of
- 20:11climate change we're heading for with current policies. Would I
- 20:16fight to ensure that dogs like my beloved Loki can
- 20:19continue wagging happily on this planet. Heck yes I would.
- 20:23I've always felt that being a pet person goes hand
- 20:26in hand with a sense of altruism and responsibility. And
- 20:30if not giving up our pets means fighting climate change
- 20:32by voting, marching, donating, advocating, and consuming like our pets
- 20:37lives depend on it, I think we can all get
- 20:39on board. That might also mean adjusting your pets diets.
- 20:44While making my dog a full vegetarian seems challenging. Though
- 20:48technically possible, just cutting out beef has a significant impact.
- 20:53Shifting to lower carbon meats was even one of the
- 20:56high impact actions included in gold Wort's study. That's he
- 21:00can easily commit to, and we already buy insect based
- 21:04treats which leave a pungent odor in my pockets but
- 21:08seem to please his taste buds. There are also ways
- 21:11that dog ownership intersects with other climate related behaviors and
- 21:15icdotally I would say I travel less because I have
- 21:18a dog whose care I need to think about walking
- 21:21him every day. Has also made me vastly more connected
- 21:24to my local environment, the goings on in my neighborhood,
- 21:27and my neighbors themselves, all of which are important aspects
- 21:31of building climate resilience. Some dogs have even been trained
- 21:35to sniff out invasive species and help identify environmental contaminants,
- 21:41though I'd never thought about it quite this way before
- 21:44I've read Goldwort's study. The climate actions I take have
- 21:47a lot to do with the love I feel for Loki.
- 21:49Not because I want to leave a better world for him.
- 21:52I recognize reality that I will almost certainly outlive him,
- 21:56but because my feelings for him bring me closer to
- 21:59the love I feel for all living things on this planet.
- 22:02This ice age predator who shares my home, as the
- 22:05anthropologist and comedian David aan Howe puts, it, is a
- 22:09living reminder of the relationship humans have with other species
- 22:14going back many thousands of years. Now. Here's an article
- 22:20from the San Francisco Chronicle. California's coastal waters are transforming
- 22:26at a surprising rate. Here's what the future could look like.
- 22:30This is by Jack Lee, updated November twenty fifth. Waters
- 22:35off the California coast, part of one of Earth's richest
- 22:38marine ecosystems, have acidified faster than most of the rest
- 22:43of the world's oceans over the past century, according to
- 22:46a new study. The author's report that the broad swath
- 22:49of coastal water that flows southward from British Columbia to
- 22:53the Baja California Peninsula known as the California Current System,
- 22:58and the adjacent sally along the border of the US
- 23:02and Canada could also become far less supportive of marine
- 23:05life in the coming decades. Based on modeling using a
- 23:09worst case climate change scenario, the region is sitting at
- 23:14the leading edge of ocean acidification impacts, says Mary Margaret Stoll,
- 23:20who recently earned a doctorate in oceanography from the University
- 23:23of Washington. Quote, it provides a window into future conditions
- 23:28predict predicted in the coming decades for the rest of
- 23:31the ocean end Quote. Since the Industrial Revolution, the amount
- 23:35of carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere has skyrocketed amid surging
- 23:39human produced greenhouse gases. That's had impacts on the world's oceans. Quote.
- 23:46The ocean is a tremendous sponge for that carbon dioxide,
- 23:49said Tessa Hill, professor of oceanography at UC Davis's Bodega
- 23:54Marine Laboratory, who wasn't part of the new study. About
- 23:58a third of what we put into the atmosphere ends
- 24:01up in the ocean. This absorbed carbon dioxide chemically reacts
- 24:06to acidify seawater, which can disrupt marine life. Organisms like
- 24:12dungeness crabs, oysters, and corals face difficulty forming hard shells
- 24:17and skeletons. Such impacts could have ripple effects through marine
- 24:22ecosystems and threaten fisheries. Scientists have projected that the world's
- 24:28oceans will continue to become more acidic over time, but
- 24:32it hasn't been clear what to expect specifically for the
- 24:35California current system, said coethor Alex Gagnum, and associate professor
- 24:41of oceanography at University of Washington. Waters in this region
- 24:47are naturally more acidic than those of the open ocean
- 24:49because of upwelling. This natural process is a distinct feature
- 24:54of the California current system and brings nutrient rich water
- 24:58up from the ocean depths, fueling the growth of marine life.
- 25:02But this water is also extra acidic due to the
- 25:06decomposition of organic matter in the deep ocean. Quote there's
- 25:11been sort of a scientific debate about whether this really
- 25:15productive region is going to be moderated from ocean acidification
- 25:19or amplified, Gagnut said, the answer seems to be amplified.
- 25:26Climate simulations from the new study indicated that carbon dioxide
- 25:30increases in the California current system over approximately the past
- 25:36century outpaced atmospheric carbon dioxide by fifty percent on average.
- 25:41By contrasts, most of the world's oceans have added carbon
- 25:44dioxide at about the same rate as the atmosphere. The
- 25:48authors found a similar pattern in the Salish Sea, which
- 25:52includes Puget Sound and the strait of one to Fuca.
- 25:56The modeling results were reinforced by a separate analysis of
- 26:00historical coral samples collected by the research vessel Albatross in
- 26:05the California Current System and Salash Sea between eighteen eighty
- 26:10eight and eighteen ninety four. The scientists quantified levels of boron,
- 26:16a chemical element that builds up in different forms depending
- 26:19on the acidity of surrounding seawater when the corals formed.
- 26:23In twenty twenty, the researchers revisited some Salash Sea sites
- 26:27where samples had previously been collected and gathered present day
- 26:31corals for analysis. We were able to compare old corals
- 26:35from the dawn of the Industrial Revolution with modern corals
- 26:39collected from the same locations and figure out how much
- 26:42acidification had happened, Cagnum explained. The authors uncovered that carbon
- 26:47dioxide increases in the Salash Sea out gained the atmosphere
- 26:52by about forty percent. They proposed that the intrinsically high
- 26:56acidity of the California Current makes it more sensitive to
- 27:01atmospheric carbon dioxide increases than other parts of the ocean.
- 27:06The researcher's project, project I'm Sorry the researchers project continued
- 27:14rapid escalation of carbon dioxide in the California Current through
- 27:18the end of the twenty first century, as the ecosystem
- 27:22continues to outpace increases in the atmosphere and other ocean
- 27:26regions that could mean sooner than anticipated consequences for marine life.
- 27:34The projections rely on extreme greenhouse gas emissions scenario involving
- 27:40dramatic increases in coal use. Climate change mitigation efforts, while
- 27:44far weaker than climate experts had sought, have meant such
- 27:48an extreme scenario isn't actually likely to play out, but
- 27:53one of the authors, agreeing with the One scientist agreeing
- 27:58with the authors said that it's still quote useful to
- 28:01see what those outer bounds look like. End quote. Well,
- 28:07that'll be all for today's Diary of Science and Nature.
- 28:10Your reader's Kelly Taylor. Now stay tuned for further programming
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