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Kent Hovind OFFICIAL VS Catholic Evolutionist | Ban Evolution From Schools Hosted By Brett Keane · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Surprise. Hey, how you doing?
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  Kent? How's your day?
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  Been man, busy. Is that one-armed paper?
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  Hanger and hurricane proof. That is rough.
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  That is rough. So what's been going on with
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  now? Been doing a lot of Tours.
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  Yeah, yeah. Get a lot of Tours, people come
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  visit from all over the place and stir up trouble and bunch of
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  debates. I 315.
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  Now, Somebody's gotta straighten them out.
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  I know how to do it. So, we got a topic to my, you
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  wanted to To talk about evolution is a religion and it
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  doesn't belong in the public schools.
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  Now I love that topic. I'd also like to ask if we could
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  get into what it does to children on a psychological
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  level countries that teach Evolution and such.
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  If you would like to go ahead, Well, my name is Ken, hold, when
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  I taught High School science and math, 15 years, I've been a
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  Baptist preacher 48-year the schools.
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  Teach this theory of evolution is not even a theory.
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  It's actually a religion after believe in evolution but they've
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  been teaching this for a long time and people have come to
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  accept it like it's part of science.
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  Nobody has ever seen a dog produce a non dog, never they
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  they they're lying to the kids so I produced a video series
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  I've been for years and years we've put out Millions of these
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  in 42 languages the creation seminar series.
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  Video number four is where I get into What's called the lies in
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  the textbooks. Video one is about the age of
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  the Earth. They're all kinds of ways to
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  prove the Earth. Simply cannot be billions of
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  years old video. 2 is about the Garden of Eden.
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  The Bible says, the people before the flood Came live to be
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  900 years old. I mean, read Genesis chapter 5.
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  Adam was 930 when he died everybody.
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  Before the Flood is living to be. 900 After the flood, it
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  drops off to the 400s and then 200 something changed and I
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  cover that on my video to what was the Garden of Eden?
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  Like why did they live to be 900 and what would happen to
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  reptiles that never stop growing?
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  Reptiles never, stop growing. What would happen if they could
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  live to be 900? They'd get really big.
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  Those are the dinosaurs, they did not live millions of years
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  ago. The Bible says nothing died
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  until Adam sinned, man, brought death into the world, Bible's
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  real clear on App. So dinosaur we did not die
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  before. Men got here, kids are just
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  being lied to video. Number three is about all about
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  dinosaurs and video for is the lies in the textbooks.
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  It's amazing. The thing the kids are being
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  taught that are just plain, they've been proven wrong for
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  years that just not true example here all DV this is the first
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  slide of my part for lies in the textbooks.
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  Kids are being taught that these family trees that they're
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  related to all kinds of other creatures.
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  Nobody's ever seen a Human producer non-human.
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  It just doesn't happen. It's imagination.
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  They say we have evidence from homologies.
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  Yes, boys and girls. Look at this.
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  Homologous structures. Did you know, you got two bones
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  in your forearm. So does the bird.
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  Yeah. And they'll say that's proof of
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  evolution. No, that's a lie.
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  They're similar structures, is proof of a common designer, but
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  the kid they just not talk that they're only allowed to see the
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  one theory that, oh, everything is related.
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  And it can all evolved as just plain bologna.
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  And my humble, humble totally unbiased opinion.
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  So we can cover any different lies if you'd like, but,
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  brother, I think Public Schools should not teach anything about
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  Origins. It's just anything whether it's
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  creation or evolution is something you have to believe
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  in. It's a religious belief, you
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  cannot prove either one scientifically nobody's ever
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  seen a cow producing on cow and it just they just believe it
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  happened, okay? I say believe what you want but
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  it's Snot science. That's all.
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  I wish they would just get it out of the schools and say,
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  okay. We'll just teach science.
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  Okay, boys and girls. You have two bones in your
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  wrist. Yep.
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  How do we get there? We don't know what we're not
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  going to talk about that, but we got two bones in your wrist.
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  Learn them radius and ulna. So that's what, what bothers me
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  though. Brett is the way they present a
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  push this Theory. This actually this religion as
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  if it's a science, they make these family trees and say, yes,
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  boys and girls. You are related to a crow.
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  Oh and and a dinosaur and a ladybug.
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  Yeah. I've been debated quite a few
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  atheists in the last. Yeah.
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  Last year. Or so, and I've been asking each
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  one, A different, a different question like I asked call me
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  emo. I said, are you related to a
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  fly? He said, yes.
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  So we've got emo in the fly. I asked Mark, Drysdale, are you
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  related to a monkey? He said, yes, Jackson row.
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  Are you related to a dinosaur? Yes, Bill.
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  Nye related to a banana pz Myers related to a fish.
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  He said we are Fish. Okay, I asked who's the guy
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  related to a professor Dave? He's related to a strawberry.
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  So we got somebody maybe this chart with all the different
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  ones that they claim they're related to, it's just so sad
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  that we teach this to the kids and we're all paying for this to
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  be taught. It's it's evil in my humble
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  opinion. But anyway, you go ahead,
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  brother. I seen a clip where someone
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  actually said they evolved from a sponge as well.
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  Guy, you were debating. It's just they just believe that
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  they're like a fruit salad, they just My out of the woodwork and
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  everything on that. But an interesting thing I
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  wanted to show you since atheism has been having a kind of a rise
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  in America. It shows that I don't know if
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  you can see the screen, but we now have the highest suicide
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  rate of all times Kent since I've ellucian has been being
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  pushed into the school's. Do you see the graph atheists
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  are the highest overall religions combined?
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  Why do you think that is? What is evolution due to people?
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  How does it devalue there? Are there thinking about
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  themself in the universe? When you have that go ahead?
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  Well, where did we come from? Why are we here?
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  And where are we going? When we die?
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  Those are three. Simple fundamental questions
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  that everybody probably ask themself a bunch of time
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  throughout their life. Where'd it come from?
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  What's the purpose of life? If evolution is true?
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  What is the purpose of life? I asked atheist all the time.
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  If evolution is true, how do you tell right from wrong?
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  Is abortion right or wrong? Well, before you answer that,
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  let me ask. Is there a higher standard than
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  you is there? A God who decides those things
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  or do you decide right and wrong for everybody or do you just
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  decide right and wrong for yourself?
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  See it's just, it's sad but atheism, it first of all, you
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  can't technically really be an atheist because you'd have to
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  know everything to know. There's no God and nobody.
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  Nobody knows everything and best there.
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  An agnostic, their ignorance, they don't know.
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  I asked an And I said, you know, everything he said well no I
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  said you know, half of everything he said no.
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  I said let's just pretend that you know, half of everything I
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  said, would it be possible that God exists in the other half?
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  You don't know. And he had to say, well, yeah.
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  Okay, then you're not an atheist or an agnostic, you're ignorant
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  Huxley invented that term in 1830, a may not and gnosis, no,
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  agnostic, we don't know and I agree, they don't know.
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  So I I've debated these days, I'll take them all on same time,
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  all of them, tell them give me a call.
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  If I big Dino extension three as me or attention for for Randall
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  Hill, scheduled a debate or standing for truth is doing a
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  lot of debates because they he's just a moderator equal time each
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  side and Keep it fair. Yeah, if you would rather.
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  So yeah, the atheists I don't think it's possible to really be
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  an atheist. We had one here a couple days
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  ago came and took the tour of dinosaur Adventure Land.
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  He claimed he was an atheist Bill cluck from Dallas atheist
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  organization. He came to call the tourist
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  here, had a wonderful time. I interviewed him on my channel,
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  Kent, hovind official, you can listen to him.
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  Tell him, he said, yeah, I liked it.
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  There is great. So I will try to win to the
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  Lord, but my experience Brett has been most people want to
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  claim to Be atheist because they really don't want God telling
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  them what to do. They don't like God's rules and
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  they think they're hiding behind science.
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  Oh, there's no science behind atheism.
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  I hear you there. We've got a guy that's in the
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  room. We got a few folks in here.
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  We've got mr. Stephen, who is also known as
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  Proverbs? We've got water.
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  Who is a Catholic, not really sure much on Scotty.
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  Just disappeared from the room immediately aren't introducing
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  him. Maybe he'll come back in a
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  moment, but Honor is a Catholic who believes that he actually
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  evolved from a primate. And I was hoping, we might be
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  able to have a talk with him. And anybody else who thinks a
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  evolved from rocks and a nivas and animal that go ahead water.
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  Why do you believe your primate for?
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  Well, I don't believe I evolved from a primate.
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  I believe I am a primate. I would actually do.
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  I sound it by the way. How's my audio?
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  You're coming to me here. Now keep in mind he's Catholic
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  not atheist. So somehow he believes God's
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  work in a creation and somehow working him as a monkey.
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  Go ahead. Well that's not uncommon for
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  Catholics. It's the official position of
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  our church but can't I was wondering, you know, if you've
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  got all this evidence against Evolution, why don't you put it
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  up for peer review, you get it into a journal.
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  Hmm. Well if you want, lived in a
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  communist country and yet evidence that communism doesn't
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  work and you put it up for peer review.
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  What would happen do you Think. That's a nice that doesn't have
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  anything to do with what I asked you.
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  Well is everything response plan.
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  Perfect, it's a perfect response.
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  The correct and a communist country.
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  They won't tolerate any criticism of communism.
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  America has decided evolution is the religion, they want, and
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  they won't tolerate anything else.
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  If you tried to publish an article that even use the word
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  designer or Creator, it probably would not make it past the peer
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  review process peer review. Just means one of your peers
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  reviewed it and agreed. There are the majority believe
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  in creation, but there's a just like in Nazi Germany.
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  If somebody said, I don't think Hitler's a good guy.
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  I think he's a bad guy that he wouldn't nothing we can publish.
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  That's for sure. Probably get executed in
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  communist. China today.
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  If someone tried to publish something against communism, it
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  would be the guy would be executed in North Korea.
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  If you tried to publish something against communism, go
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  to a Muslim country. Try to publish something against
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  Islam. See how far you get so plus?
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  I don't, I don't I'm not trying to publish stuff.
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  I don't care what anybody thinks I'm trying to produce material
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  if people want it great. If they don't like it, go
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  somewhere else. I believe the Bible.
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  Clearly teaches God, made everything in six days.
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  Do you agree? The Ten Commandments says in.
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  Six days, the Lord made Heaven and Earth, the sea.
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  And all that in them, is he wrote it on a rock with his
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  finger. Do you believe, do you agree
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  that the Bible, at least says that?
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  Yeah, I do believe that that is the, but the Ten Commandments
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  say that and there is the creation account.
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  All right? Jesus said in Matthew 19:4, and
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  in Mark 10:6 that the creation of Adam was the beginning of the
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  creation you believe, when God made Adam, that was the
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  beginning of the creation. Do I believe when God made Adam
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  that was the beginning of the creation.
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  Did it all take place in one week, the creation of the earth,
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  everything Earth, Stars everything one week?
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  No, I don't think it did. I want to, I want to, we can
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  talk about this, but I'm just, I want to ask you about your
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  previous analogy. You know, if we look at, let's
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  take what the topic here. Can you respond to this
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  question? The topic?
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  Yeah. Yeah, no, you ask.
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  Why don't I publish something? They don't do.
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  It wouldn't been published in a peer-reviewed journal that
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  believes in evolution. There's a lot of States, a lot
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  of funding involved in all this, but I don't know.
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  I'm not trying to get my stuff taught in public schools.
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  I just teach what Jesus said. Jesus didn't care what the Roman
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  government did just preach the truth.
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  I'm just trying to preach the truth.
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  The Bible says God made everything in six days.
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  That's the only way it will work with symbiotic relationships.
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  The billions certain animals require certain plants, they
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  can't survive without them. Certain plants require animals
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  to pollinate them. There's just billions of
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  symbiotic relationship. It had to all be in one week.
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  We breathe in oxygen, give off CO2 plants.
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  Breathe in CO2. Give off.
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  Oxygen has to be quickly a day or two within each other.
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  So yeah, I believe lift. The Bible is literally true
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  scientifically accurate. It was six day creation about
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  6,000 years ago. That's what the dates, add up to
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  if you add them up in the Bible. But Go ahead.
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  Next question. Now, water is absolutely
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  Proverbs through the problems through this out at Water.
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  The last show we did and I didn't really hear a good answer
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  on this at what point in time. Did the soul come into
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  existence? If you believe we evolved from
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  all these creatures, Well I said that I didn't know for sure but
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  I assumed that it that it was sometime around the first
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  humans, Homo sapiens sapiens. But again, I don't, I don't have
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  the answer. Only God has that answer.
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  I Proverbs, I apologize for interrupting you.
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  Did you have something? Yeah, I just dad real briefly.
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  Am I coming through? Clear?
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  Brett, you seen me coming to okay at the point.
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  Okay? So my point would be, there was
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  a recent Is that Brett Keen brought up on a previous show
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  that there were over 1,000 scientists, Educators scientists
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  who disagreed with the theory of evolution, which by automatic
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  default would mean that they believe in creationism, yet none
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  of them have been published and a scientific journal.
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  Why? Now, these are men who put their
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  careers on the line to say that evolution is crap, but still
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  they have nothing published. It's because of an extreme bias
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  in the scientific journal system.
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  And so there's no way for a true creationist to get something
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  published, that's just a really awesome moron over an argument.
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  Well, the reason it's not published is because it doesn't
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  pass the peer review because what they're claiming is not
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  true and they do have all sorts of Publications.
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  This not relating to the specific.
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  Tell you something different. It doesn't pass the collective
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  view, but that doesn't mean it's accurate.
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  That just means the majority believe in that one subject, or
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  now, hold on water. Try to go again.
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  There are lots of creationist journals, there creationists are
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  publishing things all the time in creations, All's evolution is
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  published in the evolution Journal Muslims publish in their
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  Muslim Publications. What's the problem?
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  Yes, I get published a lot, I've written 67 books.
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  I've got thousands of my vision Bobby millions of my videos out
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  there in 42 languages. My peers, love them.
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  It's been peer reviewed, billions of time.
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  Somebody asked me the question. Where did God come from?
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  In a debate? I was doing.
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  I gave a two-minute answer. That's got five hundred and
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  Seventeen million views. That's a lot of peers.
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  That's right. So what do you got for us water?
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  What is your response? That is a, I think Kent knows
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  why that doesn't qualify as peer review scientifically review.
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  All right, I'll tell you what water can you name the last
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  three peer-reviewed scientific journals?
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  You've actually looked at, give us the name of the Arthur the
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  names of the author and the journals.
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  I looked at nature recently, there was a new article Out
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  about bats that I was reading. I don't remember the author.
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  It turns out that most Journal articles are not read and I'm
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  not again, I'm going into religious studies, I'm not going
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  into biology, so I don't spend a lot of time reading biological
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  science journals. Yeah, but you're getting on live
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  broadcast claiming to be a Christian stating that you come
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  from a monkey that Jesus died for ancient rat creatures.
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  That's the issue. You don't see the problem in
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  that. I don't think Jesus.
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  Guide for ancient rat creatures. I Think Jesus died for us as
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  humans. You believe you evolved from an
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  ancient route though don't you? I-i'm sure there was an ancient
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  for there was some sort of rat-like creature in the lineage
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  but again humans have souls rats.
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  Do not. So I don't see what that has to
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  do with the subject at hand, but that that brings up the question
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  from the other night Waters. You cannot tell us through the
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  process of evolution when we supposedly evolved a soul.
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  That's a fundamental issue. If you can't tell us, when we
• 22:03
  evolve the soul, I don't think we evolved the thought.
• 22:05
  I think the soul was placed there by God.
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  Turn it down. So when did this old man?
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  You gotta hold it water said he still is a primate if you still
• 22:22
  are a primate which primates have a soul and what's the
• 22:25
  difference between those with the soul?
• 22:27
  And I mean if there's Apes orangutans, chimpanzees bonobos,
• 22:31
  how many different ones are there?
• 22:32
  Humans only the humans. Have a soul.
• 22:35
  Is that do this? Yes, the rest.
• 22:38
  Yes. Only humans have a soul and
• 22:40
  seeing, as Jesus came down as a human and not as an orangutan.
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  I don't think it's silly to Assume that only humans have
• 22:47
  souls. I mean, clearly, this is the
• 22:49
  species that God cares for most. But you still can't tell us
• 22:54
  exactly. When we were able to utilize,
• 22:57
  that is correct that you can tell us, which chain of The
• 23:00
  evolutionary. Exactly.
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  And that's a fundamental issue. Okay.
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  Okay, this one but I guess we disagree.
• 23:10
  We disagree about a lot. Also, how you doing Proverbs?
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  How's it going? Well, doing it brother.
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  Did he take off? You know water still with us?
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  You got a question for me. Well I'm wondering if we do have
• 23:26
  a common ancestor, is this like this family tree?
• 23:29
  They show in textbooks like this stuff, having everything.
• 23:33
  Do you believe you have a common ancestor with seaweed?
• 23:36
  This typical textbook a tree of life, shows the humans and the
• 23:39
  seaweed. Let's see.
• 23:41
  And the octopus. All have a common ancestor.
• 23:44
  Do you believe you have a common ancestor with an octopus?
• 23:48
  I I do think that High School textbooks are sloppy.
• 23:52
  So I have no way of verifying what textbook that is or who the
• 23:56
  authors are. And I'm not 100% memorized on
• 24:00
  The evolutionary chain, but I'm sure that we do have some sort
• 24:04
  of ancestor similar to what you're describing.
• 24:05
  Yes. Not when the Bible says, 24
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  times in the first seven chapters that the plants and
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  animals bring forth after their kind or after their sort is an
• 24:16
  octopus, the same kind of life form as a human.
• 24:20
  You know, if an ape. Okay.
• 24:22
  Well then then they didn't bring the reminder.
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  Pardon me. What now could you define what a
• 24:29
  kind is? Well, there are 27 different
• 24:32
  definitions of the word species, I covered in my seminar couple
• 24:35
  nights ago. So write the word you're looking
• 24:39
  in the dictionary which is published by a private
• 24:42
  corporation that attempts to keep track of how languages
• 24:45
  spoken. Okay, biologists use species in
• 24:49
  a very specific manner. I mean, just because dictionary
• 24:53
  that says 27, just different things doesn't mean that, I just
• 24:57
  prefer it in 22nd. Well I have I happen to have
• 25:01
  taught biology for 15 years. I'm pretty familiar with the
• 25:03
  topic. And the Bible says if they can
• 25:05
  bring forth their, the same kind is a dog and a coyote different
• 25:11
  species, sure. But they can still bring forth
• 25:14
  their the same kind in the biblical sense.
• 25:17
  So man has decided to classify animals into kingdom phylum
• 25:20
  class order family, genus species.
• 25:22
  The animals do not care, what we call them.
• 25:25
  They don't care, just call them for supper, that's They're
• 25:26
  worried about. Okay, so the coyote the wolf and
• 25:29
  the dog can all produce offspring.
• 25:32
  They're the same kind, a coyote and a banana cannot produce
• 25:36
  Offspring, but they have them on the chart here.
• 25:39
  I'm sure the dog and the banana, and the human, they're all
• 25:44
  connected. These charts, teach the kids.
• 25:46
  Everything alive is connected that is Criminal to teach that
• 25:51
  to kids. That's Insanity.
• 25:54
  Nobody's ever seen a banana produce a non banana.
• 25:57
  Nobody's ever seen a cow produce a non cow.
• 25:59
  You can believe that if you want but dogs.
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  Make baby dogs every time. So can I can I have to have two
• 26:06
  questions. So are you are you defining a
• 26:09
  kind as something as an animal that can reproduce with another
• 26:15
  animal and have Offspring well? First place, I don't have to
• 26:20
  Define kind. I don't I'm not asking my
• 26:22
  theories to be taught in public schools.
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  I think they need to, they believe not only do all the
• 26:27
  dogs, have a common ancestor, the textbooks, teach the dogs,
• 26:30
  and the bananas have a common ancestor.
• 26:32
  The burden of proof is on the evolutionist not on me but yes I
• 26:36
  believe the Bible says they can bring forth after their kind.
• 26:39
  Man has Diversified the dog kind by selective breeding because he
• 26:44
  wants you know smaller dog or bigger dog or whatever but
• 26:46
  they're always a dog. They're always, they're stuck in
• 26:49
  the dog. Kind they can never get out of
• 26:51
  that and a dog, or wolf and a coyote are the same kind of
• 26:55
  animal. A four-year-old will tell you.
• 26:57
  Put them together, which one's not like the others, those can
• 27:00
  bring forth. They can bring forth, they can
• 27:02
  Bring forth. They cannot bring forth, and
• 27:04
  they cannot bring forth, and that cannot bring forth.
• 27:07
  Is there a morphological limit on the size of a dog?
• 27:10
  Probably It is a Great Dane, the limit probably getting close.
• 27:15
  You think he'll ever get a dog as big as an elephant.
• 27:18
  You know, there are dogs are all animals as big as an elephant,
• 27:20
  like an elephant. So yeah, there are limits.
• 27:23
  There are limits genetic limits. God said, they would bring forth
• 27:27
  after their kind, have they ever cross bred dogs and got anything
• 27:31
  that wasn't a dog? I would be astounded if they had
• 27:37
  ever cross bred dogs and got anything that wasn't a dog from
• 27:41
  my understanding. Evolution does not claim that a
• 27:45
  dog gives birth to a fish. Every living thing that has ever
• 27:50
  been on this planet was the same species as its parent.
• 27:53
  The process is so slow. That every new generation of
• 27:58
  Offspring is the exact same species as its parent, but over
• 28:01
  millions of years or maybe it's hundreds of thousands of Years
• 28:05
  depending on the species, I don't mean it depends on what
• 28:07
  we're talking about, you know, you've got a great great, great,
• 28:11
  great, great, great times 10. That is now a different species
• 28:14
  than its great-great-great-great-great
• 28:16
  something grandson. So it's not the parent giving
• 28:20
  birth to a baby that makes the change.
• 28:23
  It's a gradual process over many, many, many generations.
• 28:28
  That's what I taught high school, biology and high school
• 28:31
  and college biology. Let me find them here.
• 28:35
  Not with how you've been driving it in.
• 28:38
  This conversation isn't exactly. You have just demonstrated the
• 28:42
  SpongeBob imagination that if we wait, billions of years, it will
• 28:46
  change. As far as them, not leaving
• 28:48
  their clade or not leaving their their kind this chart shows a
• 28:52
  single-celled creature like an amoeba.
• 28:54
  Let me get a better chart here, they show this all the time.
• 28:57
  There's a protozoa turning to a biology teacher.
• 29:00
  The protozoa left, its kind. That is just the chart used to
• 29:06
  help school. Children better understand the
• 29:08
  concept. That's not supposed to be
• 29:09
  actually. Literally representative of how
• 29:12
  Evolution Works. You're taking these from high
• 29:14
  school textbooks not like a peer-reviewed science journal.
• 29:18
  Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, if it's not accurate.
• 29:21
  Why is it in a high school textbook?
• 29:24
  Well, they helped me get you there to help explain the
• 29:26
  concept and guide along. It's just, it's just it's just
• 29:30
  an illustration. I mean you couldn't fit little
• 29:32
  you couldn't fit everything. Thing you need onto a chart to
• 29:35
  properly demonstrate how Evolution Works.
• 29:38
  What is the matter can you can find, what if I'm a turkey,
• 29:42
  water water water? You already?
• 29:45
  You already admitted that this is what your view is that you
• 29:48
  come from starfish and monkeys and all this.
• 29:52
  So I don't understand why we're going in this direction for
• 29:57
  because, okay. All right, let me explain.
• 29:59
  I think the claim that I'm hearing from can and maybe he
• 30:01
  can clarify is that A dog or a fish, one day, lays an egg, and
• 30:08
  then a dog hatches from it and that's what people who believe
• 30:12
  in evolution believe that is. I didn't what I have ever been
• 30:15
  taught in a biology class. I have never been taught that I
• 30:19
  did not say that. I area said I have never said
• 30:23
  that. I did not say that.
• 30:24
  Don't put those words in my mouth.
• 30:27
  I fish and a dog. According to these charts have a
• 30:30
  common ancestor. That is not scientifically
• 30:33
  provable. Oil.
• 30:34
  They have the shark and the plants having a common ancestor
• 30:38
  and you can claim. It happened over billions of
• 30:40
  years. If you add millions of years,
• 30:42
  here's your salt shaker. Let's add more time.
• 30:45
  That'll work. If that doesn't work, let's try
• 30:47
  billions of year. It only happens in the
• 30:49
  imagination. It doesn't happen.
• 30:52
  In reality, we see dogs produce dogs, cows, produce cows and if
• 30:57
  you wish to imagine, if we add billions of years, it would
• 31:01
  work. That's not science.
• 31:04
  All we've observed is plants, make baby plants and octopus
• 31:08
  make baby octopus and sharks make baby sharks.
• 31:11
  That's all anybody has ever observed in the history of
• 31:14
  humanity. So if you wish to believe
• 31:16
  something other than that, why don't you admit?
• 31:19
  It's your religious belief and quit calling it science.
• 31:23
  It's not science. We do science.
• 31:25
  What we can observe and study and test and demonstrate look it
• 31:28
  up. So here's here's where I'm
• 31:30
  confused. You just said I put words in
• 31:33
  your mouth Mouth. But then you said we only see
• 31:36
  dogs produce dogs, which is exactly what I'm saying.
• 31:40
  Never expect to see a dog, not produce a dog and evolution
• 31:44
  evolutionary. Biologists, do not claim that
• 31:46
  dogs give birth to non dogs. Did the amoeba somehow give
• 31:52
  birth to something? Not amoeba.
• 31:54
  I'll here we go. Pull this off.
• 31:56
  Okay, I think this way. This put textbook shows a
• 32:00
  single-celled creature, called it, an amoeba protozoa bacteria.
• 32:03
  There's 20,000 different single-celled creatures.
• 32:06
  Let's pick the protozoa. Do you believe the protozoa
• 32:09
  slowly slowly gradually turned into a human over trillions of
• 32:14
  generations? Well, it didn't turn directly
• 32:17
  from a protozoan into a human. But yes, very gradually over
• 32:21
  time. It became something else, which
• 32:22
  became something else, which became something else, which
• 32:24
  water water water. Kent already said.
• 32:27
  Do you believe this slowly? Gradually happened.
• 32:30
  So I mean he already said that you're going to have to focus on
• 32:34
  what's being said here, please. Well, so I wear is I heard of
• 32:37
  these, I make the clarification. Okay, I think it's pretty clear
• 32:43
  but go ahead camp. Where is the science?
• 32:47
  There's a lot of protozoa in the world.
• 32:49
  Has anybody in any laboratory ever taken any single-celled
• 32:53
  creature? They get born grow up and get
• 32:56
  married have babies in eight hours, so you can get three
• 33:00
  generations per day. Has any scientist ever produced
• 33:04
  anything other outside, the same kind either bacteria, protozoa
• 33:11
  Amoeba. No, they haven't.
• 33:13
  So you only have to imagine that it happens.
• 33:16
  All you have is Imagination. You don't have science.
• 33:21
  You've been lied to. It doesn't happen.
• 33:23
  The Bible says they bring forth after their kind.
• 33:25
  That's all anybody's ever observed.
• 33:27
  If you want to argue about the meaning of the word, kind, you
• 33:29
  can take it up for somebody else but it's obvious, it's the same
• 33:32
  kind, it's a protozoa. So if you wish to imagine over
• 33:35
  millions of years, it could change.
• 33:37
  Okay, we'll call it a religion and congratulations.
• 33:41
  Your religion, but stop calling it science.
• 33:46
  I have a question for water. I would like to ask you ready,
• 33:49
  water? Go for it.
• 33:54
  Okay. So according to the chart that
• 33:56
  doctor hoeven has on the screen right now and pretend that there
• 34:00
  are billions of more years added onto this chart.
• 34:03
  And a whole lot of other things in between this chart to explain
• 34:06
  the evolutionary chain, exactly how far back do we have to go
• 34:11
  before? It is no long.
• 34:12
  Sidered cannibalism to eat something in our family tree.
• 34:20
  I've I have I have no idea how to begin to answer that question
• 34:26
  again. You don't know how far back you
• 34:28
  have to go to safely, not be a cannibal in.
• 34:32
  You can't answer when the soul became able to utilize as we
• 34:37
  know it today. There's so many unanswered
• 34:40
  questions. Water is doesn't make you feel
• 34:42
  silly. It really should no not at all.
• 34:48
  We're sitting here, kind of smiling.
• 34:55
  I would love you. So for your cannibalism
• 34:57
  question, if that is a serious question, I mean, if it's not
• 35:00
  absolutely a serious question, we're all willing to this chart.
• 35:05
  I would say the origins of homo sapiens sapiens.
• 35:08
  So anything that was a homo sapiens sapiens, I don't
• 35:10
  remember how many hundredths of thousands of years ago Really
• 35:18
  water went out a little bit. There's some people they ask I
• 35:21
  did. Pz Myers really saves a fish.
• 35:24
  Let me go ahead and play that clip for folks real quick and
• 35:26
  you'll see that Kent has absolutely right.
• 35:29
  Here we go. Fish human beings are still
• 35:31
  fish. Human beings.
• 35:32
  A fish why? Yes of course they are.
• 35:34
  How long did that? Take a couple of billions of
• 35:36
  years? Millions and millions hair.
• 35:39
  Is that observable? It's not.
• 35:40
  Do you believe? We all came from sponges day.
• 35:42
  If you believe this textbook is right, yes, but my 200 million
• 35:46
  greats grandfather. Father was a fish, and by the
• 35:49
  way, the same fish was your 200 million greats grandfather, but
• 35:53
  all African Apes. Were Apes with the show?
• 35:56
  Yeah, exactly right. Yes.
• 35:58
  So, if I'm out in the woods full on Wolf, like, if I'm with close
• 36:02
  friends, what's the problem? Yeah.
• 36:04
  And what are you doing when you have time?
• 36:06
  So we're running around, we do kind of play it as wolves, like
• 36:09
  on all fours at times. Yes, sometimes we're two-way
• 36:13
  good, making wolf vocal stuffs. That here's something I might
• 36:17
  do. When I'm out there as far as a
• 36:18
  howl, sure. Oh boy science.
• 36:33
  Wow. Okay I think the change done
• 36:35
  fell out of that sandwich. So why are you got anything for
• 36:44
  us? Maybe we should hit it like this
• 36:47
  at what point in time. Do you think the prime maybe
• 36:49
  evolved memory capacity to be even considered human at what
• 36:54
  point in time did this happen? Did he go speechless?
• 37:02
  Was that a rough one on here? Yeah, I'm I'm getting your info.
• 37:07
  I don't know. Off the top of my head, you ask
• 37:10
  me at what time we became human. I'm asked at what point in time.
• 37:16
  Do you think that we got the memory capacity to the point
• 37:19
  where we could be even labeled human in the first place and be
• 37:22
  intuitive? As, you know, there's no other
• 37:24
  primate or creature and Earth's ever had an Enlightenment they
• 37:28
  age and Industrial Age. Would you be able to explain
• 37:30
  that? Right?
• 37:33
  Right, so I mean, I mean are how we understand our psychology is
• 37:37
  greatly influenced by culture? So again, I would have to say,
• 37:44
  When we see the first humans would be, I mean, I would say
• 37:49
  that the first humans would probably not capable of the, the
• 37:52
  same kind of complex thought that we are now capable of
• 37:55
  because that is something like build gradually over time, as
• 37:58
  well as culture and Society, develops and new pathways are
• 38:04
  formed in the brain. I mean, but I would say, I mean,
• 38:08
  when we first had the mental 8, I said, wait a minute.
• 38:14
  Are you really saying that great minds like Aristotle or less
• 38:17
  Superior intelligently as we are?
• 38:20
  Because I would pick that was told.
• 38:22
  No, it's actually no. No, I didn't.
• 38:25
  I didn't say, I mean, I guess it would depend on how you measure
• 38:28
  intelligence. I don't really think there is a
• 38:30
  way to measure intelligence, but I mean, no, I'm not saying that
• 38:35
  Aristotle. Oil would be inferior and you're
• 38:38
  also forgetting what outliers are because Aristotle might have
• 38:43
  been the smartest man of his day.
• 38:44
  But that doesn't reflect what everyone else around him was
• 38:47
  like so well surely it's somewhat does because somebody
• 38:51
  out there had to be smart enough to read his work, right?
• 38:56
  Right. But that doesn't mean that they
• 38:57
  were as smart as he will. Well guys, I've got a question
• 39:03
  for you and especially can't I don't know if gas prices are
• 39:08
  through the roof in Alabama, but in Missouri.
• 39:10
  It's absolutely horrific. I've been waiting to evolve
• 39:13
  wings for the longest time so I can save on that.
• 39:17
  What do you guys say? When did I going to happen for
• 39:20
  me? I don't know.
• 39:21
  Whatever happened. Well, it's a little over three
• 39:25
  bucks, a gallon here and that'd be great if we went through a
• 39:28
  stages where we're supposedly related to fish and birds.
• 39:32
  Why did we are somebody somewhere along the line lost
• 39:35
  something? It'd be great to have wings and
• 39:37
  like this, somebody said the gills to breathe underwater.
• 39:40
  I've often asked atheists or evolution, is this question and
• 39:43
  I've never had an answer every single animal in the world makes
• 39:48
  babies some way. I'm doing whole series on Friday
• 39:51
  night. How animals make babies, you
• 39:52
  ought to watch that on Kent hovind official, Sure.
• 39:54
  But why did none of the animals simply evolved the ability to
• 39:58
  live forever because making babies makes more competition
• 40:02
  for their food. Supply, that seems
• 40:05
  counterproductive, they all died.
• 40:08
  They all make babies and they all eventually die.
• 40:11
  That's just surely one of them would have evolved eternal life.
• 40:16
  Why didn't any of them do that? They all did they all evolved
• 40:19
  this ability to die? Water.
• 40:28
  I mean, we know that wear and tear happens.
• 40:31
  I don't know how you would expect something to become
• 40:34
  immortal. Well, I don't think you've
• 40:39
  received an answer to that question because it doesn't, I
• 40:41
  don't think it makes a lot of sense.
• 40:44
  Okay. Well the protozoa evolved more
• 40:47
  or less wear and tear instead of a single cell human body is now,
• 40:51
  100 trillion cells. It's in the average.
• 40:54
  Human body. And each cell contains 100
• 40:57
  trillion atoms in one cell in your body.
• 41:01
  I think we've become much more complex than the protozoa.
• 41:05
  So why not just live forever? They certainly evolved the
• 41:09
  ability to turn from protozoa to a biology teacher and your
• 41:11
  religion. Anyway, they can believe all
• 41:15
  this stuff if you want. Make all these family trees, my
• 41:17
  point is this isn't science. This is religious belief to draw
• 41:22
  a shark and a fern and a starfish and octopus and
• 41:26
  connecting to a common ancestor. And claimed, it was a protozoa
• 41:30
  or paramecium or something like that.
• 41:32
  That's religion. And it's dumb real dumb but
• 41:36
  they're welcome to it. I don't object to people
• 41:38
  believing they came from a protozoa believe that I object
• 41:42
  to having to pay It have that talk to all the kids, like it's
• 41:44
  part of science because that's not the part of science.
• 41:47
  Science tells us, protozoa and amoeba and bacteria, make babies
• 41:51
  of the same kind every paramecium and they re trillions
• 41:55
  of them in the laboratory. Always make maybe paramecium
• 41:58
  weathered by mitosis or meiosis. It doesn't matter.
• 42:01
  It always is the same. Nobody ever sees these charts
• 42:06
  this just imagination but I can't get you guys to admit it.
• 42:10
  It's just nothing but imagination you and SpongeBob
• 42:13
  need to get together and it go to you know I don't have a party
• 42:16
  or something because you your SpongeBob imagination.
• 42:20
  There's no science Revolution. None in the earlier, I showed
• 42:25
  you. Some stats about atheist
• 42:27
  countries tend to have the highest suicide rates of all
• 42:31
  times through my research. I also found out that countries
• 42:35
  that are mostly atheists and who hold to the ideas of evolution
• 42:39
  the most First they seem to be the highest and substance abuse.
• 42:45
  Why do you think that is Ken, what's your theory on that?
• 42:48
  Our opinion. Well, they have to try to escape
• 42:51
  reality, you know reality is we don't know who we are.
• 42:54
  We don't know where we came from.
• 42:55
  We don't know where we're going manless.
• 42:56
  Let's just Escape reality with some kind of drug.
• 42:59
  I've never tasted alcohol. Never had any drug, had an
• 43:01
  aspirin six months ago, but the just it's common sense that hey,
• 43:06
  if there's no purpose to life. What's the problem?
• 43:09
  What's the problem? Why would murder be wrong?
• 43:11
  If evolution is true, if the lion eats the baby zebra, is
• 43:16
  that Raw. Well, why not the human eat the
• 43:20
  baby human? This is see that the
• 43:24
  evolutionist does not have a standard to go by.
• 43:28
  We have two different basic standards in the world to metric
• 43:30
  and the English, okay? You measure Things based upon
• 43:33
  their length in meters or in feet, okay?
• 43:35
  You measure the weight, based in kilograms or pounds, you measure
• 43:39
  different things, the volume and stuff like that pressure.
• 43:44
  We have, we have to have a standard to measure.
• 43:46
  If I say, bring me up, bring me a two-by-four.
• 43:48
  How long do you want it? Oh, I don't know.
• 43:50
  Just a long one. How about more?
• 43:52
  Oddly like 84 inches. You know, we're is the standard
• 43:56
  with Evolution, where, how do you tell right from wrong?
• 43:59
  Is it wrong to kill somebody? And why would that be wrong?
• 44:04
  They don't have an answer that I've ever heard just majority
• 44:08
  opinion. Oh well then in Russia or
• 44:10
  Hitler's. Germany majority thought they
• 44:12
  should kill all the Jews. I guess that was right, wasn't
• 44:14
  it? That was a majority.
• 44:17
  And North Korea. They think they should kill
• 44:19
  anybody that won't support communism.
• 44:21
  That's the majority. So the problem you're on a
• 44:24
  slippery, slope there water, and other evolutionists, you say
• 44:27
  you're Catholic and also Evolution certainly.
• 44:29
  The evolution Theory does not match the Bible.
• 44:32
  You've got to admit that it doesn't match at all with the
• 44:34
  Bible teaches. Well not just that Pastor Joven
• 44:37
  but also with the community standards of morality we have an
• 44:42
  issue there too. Right?
• 44:43
  Because for one thing here in the United States we know that
• 44:46
  it's wrong. Wrong to kill and eat human
• 44:48
  beings. But there are islands off of the
• 44:51
  coast of India where they have never come in communication with
• 44:55
  the outside world. And it's believed that they are
• 44:57
  still cannibalistic today. See with atheism, there is no
• 45:03
  universal law to stand to so every culture makes up their own
• 45:06
  reality and that's a huge issue. Also, right?
• 45:13
  No standard for Morality. That's the truth.
• 45:15
  I mean, where's the where's the standard?
• 45:19
  So we got to some more statistics will throw up and it
• 45:22
  goes along with what you guys are talking about an atheist
• 45:25
  countries. That teach Evolution, let me
• 45:28
  take that. Comment off the screen.
• 45:30
  They have the highest child, abuse, domestic violence, and
• 45:35
  rape stats. Also the highest child porn
• 45:38
  distribution in the world since 1960 and NAMBLA, founded by
• 45:43
  atheists. Are you guys aware of who NAMBLA
• 45:46
  is, huh? All right, man.
• 45:50
  Boy man-boy love Association or something like that.
• 45:52
  Yeah, that's right. Anybody have any views on that
• 45:59
  or ideas? I mean we can get back into the
• 46:02
  evolution being removed out of the schools but I think what's
• 46:05
  important here is to see that this is the kind of stuff that's
• 46:08
  being introduced to our children.
• 46:10
  This is the kind of stuff. I mean Stephen you got a son.
• 46:14
  What if you were to tell your son, I'm sorry, there's no God,
• 46:17
  there's no objective love in the universe.
• 46:19
  We're on our own. You came from a rock and you
• 46:22
  have no meaning or thing tool or would you Tell him you're
• 46:27
  beautifully designed by God, what kind of effect do you think
• 46:31
  it would have on a child being a father yourself?
• 46:35
  Oh, Brett. Well, first of all, I love my
• 46:37
  son entirely way too much to let him believe that he doesn't have
• 46:41
  a designer who loved him, informed him in his mother's
• 46:44
  womb, the thought of telling my son, that he's just an accident
• 46:49
  that have from Stardust and turned into space goo and rain
• 46:53
  down on rocks. Like there's no purpose in life.
• 46:56
  So I as a loving father would never do that.
• 47:03
  Well, somebody out there, ask is it moral to mutilate the
• 47:06
  genitals of little boys and little girls and all that.
• 47:09
  It's a good question. According to atheists, they
• 47:11
  don't have any objective morality.
• 47:13
  So I suppose the answer would be, no, it would be based upon
• 47:16
  whatever their opinion is aren't just like with everything else.
• 47:21
  Well, they might unless they're trying to drive at circumcision,
• 47:24
  you know, as calling that immoral for the Jews, on the
• 47:26
  eighth day to circumcise their male children, actually that's
• 47:29
  as a health benefit of Sanitation thing and sit on the
• 47:32
  eighth day is brilliant because that's when the Vitamin K is the
• 47:34
  highest but that's not as if you're going to say that's
• 47:37
  wrong. What about if injecting a
• 47:38
  vaccine in a baby that has no no no say in the top of topic.
• 47:43
  How many did they do that to babies?
• 47:44
  When they're born, can't even talk or think it and then with
• 47:47
  the go ahead and put poison in their body of some kind and with
• 47:50
  us. Of reason.
• 47:53
  Why? Of course, I got a reason why we
• 47:54
  have to do this. Well, so I think, you know,
• 47:57
  that's a slippery slope. If you want to go down that with
• 47:59
  the circumcision has health benefits, the Jews have a Jewish
• 48:02
  women, lot, less cervical, cancer.
• 48:05
  And there's a lot long studies done on this topic.
• 48:07
  So I suspect that's where the question was going, my guess?
• 48:11
  Go ahead. Yeah, I would like to add
• 48:15
  briefly. I'm someone who was circumcised
• 48:17
  at 16 years old and there's not a day that goes by Bye.
• 48:21
  I don't. Thank God for that.
• 48:23
  Genital mutilation and not only is it decreased cervical, cancer
• 48:27
  pastor, but it is also significantly decreased yeast
• 48:30
  infections, which is another severe issue.
• 48:33
  For young ladies. So there are tremendous benefits
• 48:36
  to that quote unquote. Genital mutilation, Water.
• 48:44
  Do you have any more questions by the way?
• 48:46
  People, you can come in as long as you're willing to behave.
• 48:50
  Not cuss not yell and beat your chest like a primate.
• 48:53
  You are more than welcome to come in and chat with us.
• 48:55
  Ask anything you like You know, I don't really, you know, I have
• 49:02
  questions but I don't really know how far we'll get by
• 49:05
  putting them on the table. It seems like we maybe we should
• 49:11
  talk about some. I mean if you want me to keep
• 49:13
  asking questions I will but I don't really think that we're
• 49:16
  getting much out of it. Why have I been doing just fine?
• 49:19
  Go ahead, Ken, I'm enjoying, I'm getting a lot out of it and that
• 49:24
  sounds like a cop-out is. Do you have any, where's the
• 49:26
  evidence? You have for evolution.
• 49:28
  Has anybody ever seen any animal plant or animal produce
• 49:32
  offspring? That are different kind.
• 49:35
  Or does it only know when claiming that this?
• 49:38
  The textbooks are claiming it. Do you believe you're related to
• 49:41
  us? Know it's a textbook made for
• 49:43
  school children. It's a fun illustration.
• 49:46
  It's not a scientifically like rigorous.
• 49:50
  It's just right. It's just an art piece for
• 49:52
  school kids. Okay.
• 49:54
  This is in college books. Do you believe you have a common
• 49:57
  ancestor with the bird? You believe your ancestors with
• 50:03
  birds, okay, then that's not science, that's religion.
• 50:09
  Where the evidence for that. Does anybody ever seen any bird,
• 50:15
  produces a non bird or any human produce a nonhuman?
• 50:19
  I think it is time that I'm repeating this but no, one is
• 50:22
  claiming that a bird. Produces a non bird, I did.
• 50:26
  Well, the other are something that was non bird, eventually
• 50:30
  produced a bird because it came from an amoeba.
• 50:33
  If the protozoa or the single-celled creature turned
• 50:36
  into a bird slowly over millions of years, which is what they
• 50:39
  teach have, all the animals, the fungi and the plants have a
• 50:42
  common ancestor. So what they're teaching the
• 50:45
  kids and I'm just pointing out. This is something a person
• 50:48
  believes in or the one with the here we go.
• 50:51
  All the animals connected to a common ancestor.
• 50:53
  Here we go. This one is it's this is in all
• 50:56
  the textbooks and this is what they're taught.
• 50:59
  If you don't believe this is accurate.
• 51:01
  Why don't you help me get this out of?
• 51:03
  Of the books because this isn't science.
• 51:06
  This is silly. You said you you are a primate.
• 51:10
  Well that depends on what how you want to classify primates.
• 51:13
  I could say we're all eukaryotes because we have nucleus bound
• 51:15
  cell but so what does that mean? A lot of a lot of Machinery made
• 51:21
  out of iron that mean they're all related battleships in cars
• 51:24
  and helicopters, got to be related, they're all made out of
• 51:26
  iron. So this is I'm my point.
• 51:29
  Is this the stuff that they're teaching and the stuff that you
• 51:31
  believe you said you believed Related to a bird.
• 51:34
  Okay. So you have a common ancestor
• 51:36
  with a bird and that common ancestor was neither human nor
• 51:39
  bird. So it turned into something
• 51:41
  else. You say birds always produce
• 51:45
  Birds. I agree.
• 51:46
  So what the Bible says, But you believe Birds came from
• 51:49
  something that was non bird somewhere, didn't don't you?
• 51:55
  Well, birds have actually been around for a long time.
• 51:57
  They're closely related to dinosaurs.
• 52:00
  So I mean birth been doing it for a while and as for the
• 52:03
  battleships, I would not claim that anything not living can be
• 52:07
  related to something else because it doesn't have DNA
• 52:11
  doesn't reproduce. So, that's the straw man.
• 52:14
  Okay, well, if you believe dirt birds are related to dinosaurs,
• 52:17
  you got a more serious problem than you realize, okay.
• 52:21
  Reptiles and all animals, only produce after there.
• 52:24
  Kind. That's what God Said, what
• 52:26
  happened? That's what everybody has seen
• 52:28
  happen. To anything else is Imagination.
• 52:31
  Reptiles produce baby. Reptiles every time Birds
• 52:36
  produce, maybe Birds dogs, produce dogs, there are simply,
• 52:39
  it doesn't happen, except in the imagination, you wish to believe
• 52:44
  it happened. Okay.
• 52:45
  Believe all you want Coyote hybrid, dog.
• 52:48
  They can cross breed coyotes dogs wolves.
• 52:52
  I predict animals. Plants and animals are always
• 52:54
  bring forth. After their kind what the Bible
• 52:56
  says. We're not against science.
• 52:58
  I love science. But if someone was going to put
• 53:01
  poison milk and your kids school, the next day, what would
• 53:04
  you do? You want you to find some way to
• 53:06
  stop them? Well, they've already put the
• 53:08
  poison in the books. It's in the books from
• 53:10
  kindergarten to college. You're going to get it in your
• 53:13
  college textbooks. If you're studying in college,
• 53:15
  they're going to teach you that you are related to a fish and an
• 53:19
  amoeba and a bacteria and a bird, and a dinosaur and a
• 53:22
  whale. They're going to teach you that.
• 53:25
  They already are obviously already swallowed it.
• 53:28
  You believe it? God said, don't bear false
• 53:30
  witness and that's all they're doing is lying to the kids,
• 53:32
  okay? Nobody's ever seen a dog produce
• 53:35
  a non dog if you wished it believe that go for it, but quit
• 53:39
  calling it science admit, it's our religion 339 breeds of dogs
• 53:44
  now, most of which would not survive in nature.
• 53:48
  They got to babysit the dumb thing, but my wife's crazy pug.
• 53:51
  I think wouldn't last 20 minutes out in the woods.
• 53:54
  Couldn't find his way home. Okay.
• 53:56
  So sure, man has selectively bred for special traits.
• 54:00
  They've taken cows and decided the farmer says.
• 54:02
  I want cows that give more milk, so he gets his best milk
• 54:06
  producers, and cross breeds them.
• 54:07
  And pretty soon, he gets calves and after five or six
• 54:10
  Generations, he's got a herd of cows that give more milk.
• 54:14
  Okay, he didn't create anything cows.
• 54:17
  Already gave milk. He enhanced that particular
• 54:20
  trait. That's all he did or more beef
• 54:23
  or it can stand the heat better. Whatever you can.
• 54:25
  Natural selection works great artificial selection works
• 54:28
  great, but it's a selective process.
• 54:31
  Not a creative process. You're not going to take a
• 54:36
  amoeba or a protozoa. And what natural selection turn
• 54:40
  a single-celled creature into a human or a bird or a dinosaur or
• 54:45
  a ladybug, this is the kind of stuff that gets me upset.
• 54:48
  They're not only wasting our textbook, money printing this
• 54:51
  dumb stuff, they're lying to the kids.
• 54:53
  It's not true, it's not science and this is destroying their
• 54:56
  faith in God's word. I think it's destroyed your
• 54:59
  faith in God's word. God said they bring forth after
• 55:02
  their kind you don't believe that.
• 55:03
  No surgery, no, sir, my faith in God's word is not destroyed at
• 55:07
  all. All that that is, that is
• 55:10
  patently untrue. Well, well, that's not totally
• 55:13
  accurate. The water because you do not see
• 55:15
  is more notley God help me out water.
• 55:18
  You already said under lash do he said Genesis is allegory.
• 55:23
  You're already making substitutions water.
• 55:27
  That's true. I got a question for Kent
• 55:29
  myself. Do whenever I was young man and
• 55:31
  growing up in high school we were taught that there was an
• 55:34
  Extinction event with the dinosaurs that there was So much
• 55:38
  Devastation destruction at the dinosaurs were completely wiped
• 55:42
  out at what point in time. Did someone slip in that during
• 55:46
  all this toxic oceans and poison and explosions and death and
• 55:51
  destruction practically the apocalypse.
• 55:53
  These dinosaurs managed to turn into birds and just fly to
• 55:57
  safety. Where did it go?
• 56:01
  That whole idea has been invented in the last, I think 20
• 56:04
  25 years. I think it's, I think the devil
• 56:06
  and his demons are just seeing How dumb a story can we get
• 56:10
  people to believe the idea that the whole universe?
• 56:13
  All the stars fit in a DOT smaller than a proton?
• 56:16
  You could not squeeze a gallon of milk into a DOT smaller than
• 56:19
  a proton. Let alone hold Pacific, Ocean.
• 56:22
  It is just so absurd that they believe it.
• 56:26
  Oh yes, and we're all related to a common ancestor like an amoeba
• 56:29
  or protozoa. That just is so absolutely
• 56:32
  idiotic stupidity, unbelievable. But I think the demons and Satan
• 56:38
  and the demons are Are laughing. As you know what?
• 56:40
  I probably had an idea. I bet I can get them to believe
• 56:42
  this. Oh no you can't.
• 56:43
  Yeah watch this and sure enough. They believe it.
• 56:46
  It just it's sad but my job as want a child of God is to teach
• 56:51
  the truth. Okay.
• 56:53
  What are you said? You believe the Bible?
• 56:54
  The Bible says in six days God made everything.
• 56:57
  You believe that. No.
• 57:01
  Okay. Well you don't believe the
• 57:02
  Bible, they already destroyed your faith in the Bible.
• 57:06
  So when you read in Daniel on, I've got my Bible right here.
• 57:14
  Catholic Bibles, got more books than yours.
• 57:21
  Let me go to the front. Give me a second Kitt.
• 57:24
  How do you feel about these old Earth creationist like Hugh.
• 57:27
  Ross. I do.
• 57:29
  Dated Hugh Ross for two and a half hours on the John Ankerberg
• 57:32
  Show. I'll debate him again.
• 57:33
  Anytime he's a heretic, tell him, I said, so Do you think
• 57:39
  that anyone who doesn't accept the young Earth creation and
• 57:42
  count as a heretic? I think if they claim to believe
• 57:45
  the Bible but they also believe the Earth is billions of years
• 57:48
  old and they're related to a protozoa or a primate there a
• 57:51
  heretic it does a shirt you don't believe the Bible Jesus
• 57:54
  said creation of Adam was the beginning.
• 57:57
  They're calling him a liar. Jesus of the Bible says in
• 58:00
  Romans 5:8, nothing died. Till Adam sinned, man, brought
• 58:03
  death into the world. If evolution is true death,
• 58:06
  brought man into the world. They could not be more opposite.
• 58:10
  There, you cannot reconcile. These two.
• 58:12
  Worldviews. Somebody is wrong.
• 58:14
  Seriously wrong. I agree.
• 58:17
  Do you do you do you? Do you agree that Jesus often
• 58:21
  speaks in metaphor? Oh yeah.
• 58:23
  He spoke in Parables, sometimes sure hair.
• 58:25
  But it was clear, right? It was It was pretty clear when
• 58:28
  he did, but when he said, the creation of Adam was the
• 58:32
  beginning twice? Matthew 19:4, Mark 10:6?
• 58:36
  What did he mean by that? What about the death?
• 58:39
  Why did God make a world? Where death is, what does the
• 58:43
  creating? Because if one atom, if one
• 58:45
  animal evolves a little better than the rest, the rest of them
• 58:48
  have to die to make this work or that new improvements going to
• 58:51
  be Blended back into the population in Lost.
• 58:54
  What's the let's let's are the the Matthew, and the you said,
• 58:57
  Matthew and Mark are those accounts.
• 59:01
  You said, he said it twice. Now are those accounts just
• 59:04
  different separate recounting of the same incident, or is he
• 59:09
  really saying it on two separate occasions?
• 59:12
  Well, in the mouth of two or three Witnesses, every word is
• 59:14
  established, that's a Biblical principle and Fries.
• 59:18
  Okay? So I think Jesus is the Lord had
• 59:20
  Matthew righted, and he had Mark right it at separate times.
• 59:24
  Make sure there's two there, two there, two witnesses.
• 59:26
  To this to that. He did say, that, that makes
• 59:29
  sense. That it did.
• 59:31
  So are any of his other parables are metaphors?
• 59:33
  Not repeated twice in both of those gospels?
• 59:37
  Let me go on way off track for this topic tonight, but the
• 59:39
  positive, I don't know. Yeah, well, we're talking about.
• 59:44
  Can Evolution be demonstrated? Should it be taught in school?
• 59:47
  Is it a religion? That's the very title of the
• 59:50
  video, right. So he actually announce well
• 59:53
  you're going All over the place as though you're trying to say.
• 59:56
  Oh, you know what? Let's get right down to it.
• 1:00:00
  Let's cut through the cheese. Hello is Genesis and allegories
• 1:00:06
  a story is the creation account allegory or not.
• 1:00:09
  Yes or no? Yes, but let me clarify me
• 1:00:11
  clarify the point that I'm making he said that because
• 1:00:15
  Jesus is quoted twice as having said this in both Matthew and
• 1:00:20
  Mark that means that he's not speaking in a parable or
• 1:00:22
  metaphor. He's being literal.
• 1:00:24
  And so I'm asking him if there are any other instances of his
• 1:00:28
  Parables or metaphors being repeated twice because that
• 1:00:31
  would then imply that he could be wrong about Jesus being
• 1:00:35
  literal in this instance. So it's not unrelated.
• 1:00:40
  It's not it's completely related to the topic.
• 1:00:43
  I think you're grasping at straws here.
• 1:00:45
  I'd have to go back and see which all Parables Jesus told.
• 1:00:47
  Matthew had some Mark had some but that's unrelated.
• 1:00:50
  If a person says something and a court of law two witnesses come
• 1:00:54
  in and say I heard him say it. The other guy says I heard him
• 1:00:57
  say it that's enough. There are two witnesses that
• 1:01:00
  believe Jesus said the creation of Adam was the beginning.
• 1:01:04
  Matthew wrote it down and Mark wrote it down.
• 1:01:07
  What's the difference tell us anything about whether or not it
• 1:01:10
  was, it was a, it was a metaphor, it doesn't?
• 1:01:13
  It just says that he, the tells us that he said her Wonder,
• 1:01:16
  we're not talking about Parables and all that right now.
• 1:01:19
  The topic of it is should Evolution be taught in school?
• 1:01:23
  Also can't ask you about 10 minutes ago, can you demonstrate
• 1:01:27
  any evidence for evolution? Can you do that besides saying
• 1:01:31
  Hamburg, dinosaur? I mean, give us something that
• 1:01:34
  we can chew on here. I would encourage him to do the
• 1:01:38
  same thing. I encourage you to do which
• 1:01:40
  would be to go to his local natural natural history museum.
• 1:01:43
  And take a look at some transitional fossils.
• 1:01:45
  Can you demonstrate some evidence for evolution in this
• 1:01:48
  discussion with us? Are you want to send us
• 1:01:50
  somewhere where they make wooden bones and stuff in order to make
• 1:01:53
  something look like it's a structure?
• 1:01:56
  Okay, let me let me try to, I want to post in the chat.
• 1:02:00
  I will give you some resources. All right, that's out.
• 1:02:12
  There is no such thing as a transitional fossil.
• 1:02:16
  If you find any fossil in the dirt, all you could prove is it
• 1:02:20
  died. You could not prove it had any
• 1:02:23
  children and you sure couldn't prove it had children that were
• 1:02:25
  different than itself. Why would an animal in the dirt
• 1:02:29
  be able to do something that no animal today can do?
• 1:02:32
  No animal today produces babies other than their kind.
• 1:02:35
  Why would we think this bone in the dirt?
• 1:02:37
  Could do it? I don't think that.
• 1:02:40
  Again, I've never have claimed and no evolutionary biologist
• 1:02:44
  claims that an animal gives birth to a different species,
• 1:02:48
  then it soon. What, what's his transitional
• 1:02:51
  fossil you're talking about is just transitioning to something
• 1:02:54
  else. It's giving birth to something
• 1:02:56
  other than its kind, slowly. I'm going to be our backup,
• 1:02:59
  going to get a drink. Yeah, get it right.
• 1:03:02
  Okay. How you feeling Kent?
• 1:03:04
  I am tired bread. I've had a long day.
• 1:03:06
  I'm ready to quit and go to bed but we can go a little longer
• 1:03:08
  here if you want. All right, I'm going to give
• 1:03:11
  people the opportunity to come in and ask questions.
• 1:03:13
  I put the links are out there, folks, whenever discussion, you
• 1:03:16
  better hurry it up because Kent this tired.
• 1:03:19
  He's a busy man, come on, I would like to point out a flaw
• 1:03:27
  in The evolutionary belief that water has brought up previously.
• 1:03:32
  He says that everything on Earth was exactly the same as its
• 1:03:36
  parent. But if that's true, that would
• 1:03:39
  also mean that I was exactly the same as my gran and my
• 1:03:42
  great-great-great, grandparents, Evolution has no room.
• 1:03:45
  If everything was exactly the same as its parent in the
• 1:03:48
  history of the world, where does an illusion coming?
• 1:03:52
  You can't have both. They say they're always the same
• 1:03:55
  as their parents, okay? Well then amoebas per didn't
• 1:03:58
  produce a human then. Yeah, not only that pasture, but
• 1:04:03
  you would be the expert on this if evolution were real.
• 1:04:08
  Wouldn't you have to have two of these species evolved.
• 1:04:11
  Exactly the same at exactly the same time in order for them to
• 1:04:15
  breed and further that new hybrid operative cheese well and
• 1:04:20
  they got to be of the opposite sex.
• 1:04:23
  What if you got two males to evil?
• 1:04:25
  Yeah, we got a problem. So not only they have to have
• 1:04:28
  two of them at the same time, over the opposite sex in the
• 1:04:31
  same place. They now have to breed enough
• 1:04:34
  children to take over the population of the whole world of
• 1:04:36
  that kind, or they're going to it's going to get Blended back
• 1:04:39
  in if a farmer has one cow that gives an enormous amount of milk
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  and they don't select that one out and keep it separate, it'll
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  just get Blended back into the heard, the new improved trait,
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  won't take over the herd. Certainly won't take over the
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  world, but here's the versus. Where'd you go ahead?
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  Here's the verses where Jesus said, man brought death into the
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  world Romans 5:12, and First Corinthians 15 by Man Came
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  Death. Why do we have death?
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  If Waters God, that he says, he believes in use death to create
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  everything. That's the opposite of the god
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  that I believe in. God made it all perfect and man,
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  wrecked it In his view, God made a mess and it slowly trying to
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  straighten itself out. I think it's just totally count
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  contrary to what scripture teaches.
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  That's for sure. Water, you opened up Pandora's
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  Box. Mr. Hoban actually posted the
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  verse where Jesus talked about Adam and about death in the
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  world. Are you saying that?
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  That's some kind of parable or allegory?
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  Yeah but that's that's what we were trying to talk.
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  I was trying to talk to Ken about earlier and that's why I
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  was asking In him, if he had more instances of Jesus Parables
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  being repeated because that would imply that just because
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  it's repeated twice, that doesn't mean that it should be
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  taken. Literally, you're still not
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  responding to the diversity, actually has up there.
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  It's Jesus, is speaking of Adam. Here it is right here.
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  Have you not read that? He, which made them at the
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  beginning, made them male and female.
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  Was that the beginning, right? And we have a male and female of
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  the species. Yes, I was the first man if he
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  is referred to as Adam, that is the beginning.
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  I mean, I don't I don't know why I'm being told that I'm the
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  machine in the chat that I'm dodging questions.
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  And I'm not answering things. I'm trying to be as, on the nose
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  and into the point is possible. I'm not sure.
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  Why? Maybe it's a Protestant versus
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  Catholic thing? I don't know.
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  No, it's called the Dodge and a reflect.
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  And also you're trying to turn the Bible in the allegory so you
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  can go with the evolution. But Bible is no problem.
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  Is the problem is even if we give you that but it's all
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  allegory you still can't demonstrate evidence for
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  evolution. That's her problem.
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  That's what we've been waiting for and you want to give us a
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  bunch of Bones and corpses and say, there you go.
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  That's what we're waiting for it, sir again.
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  And I don't know, I I've lost count of how many times I've
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  said this, but if the the evidence that you want for
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  evolution is for me to get an animal to give birth to an
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  animal of another species. I can't, I can't do that, nobody
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  can do that because nobody is claiming, that's what happens.
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  And it's not what happens, they are claiming it happens, slowly,
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  if a frog turns into a prince slowly, it's science.
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  Now if you kiss the Frog and turns to a prince, that's a
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  fairy tale, but if it happens slowly, it now becomes science.
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  That's you don't understand at all that.
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  You have a religious belief. You certainly aren't going to
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  admit it because Evolution isn't observed.
• 1:07:48
  The protozoa according to the evolution Theory slowly turned
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  to everything alive. Today where's the evidence for
• 1:07:56
  that protozoa make babies all the time and they're still
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  protozoa alive today. Why did all of them turn into
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  humans? What would you only need two?
• 1:08:08
  You only evolve is you need to adapt and survive.
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  So if they still fit and environmental Niche, there's no
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  reason for them to evolve. Okay, I do believe I've
• 1:08:18
  question. I have a question for you water,
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  you stated before on previous show that you have to go with
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  the majority of what's believed in science.
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  My question for you is without mindset Catholicism being the
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  only will call it. A denomination of Christianity
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  is since it's, the only denomination that recognizes
• 1:08:39
  Evolution. Why would you not go with the
• 1:08:41
  opinion of all the Protestants and the Jews?
• 1:08:45
  And The Muslims because they are the majority Collective opinion
• 1:08:50
  when it comes to religious matters, why would you side with
• 1:08:54
  the Catholics when they're the minority but when it comes to
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  scientific research we have over a billion Catholics on this
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  planet. It's still a denomination
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  though. My question was about to
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  nomination if the majority of the denominations including
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  Judaism and we'll even add Islam, agree that Evolution
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  can't be accurate. Then why would you go with the
• 1:09:17
  minority Viewpoint? I think, I honestly, I love you
• 1:09:20
  Proverbs, but I think that's kind of a silly question.
• 1:09:23
  I don't know why you're including Islam, they have an
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  entirely different book. No, no, no.
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  Wait, wait, wait. They are part of the Abraham,
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  right? Why not include him?
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  Great. Okay.
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  So you're talking abrahamic religions.
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  Yes, Brandi because I was Russia have the same God That's a Dodge
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  brother, that's a bigger Dodge than go plan.
• 1:09:45
  You drive this this this question is not your ass is not
• 1:09:51
  religion, is not a search field where you get with the top
• 1:09:56
  experts to battle it out and find out what they have a
• 1:10:00
  consensus on. I mean it's just you comparing
• 1:10:02
  apples and oranges. I don't think this is the only
• 1:10:04
  this is a fair question. Well is there anything else that
• 1:10:08
  you'd like that guys? Can't this tired and I want to
• 1:10:11
  make sure Sure that he's able to get his beauty sleep and all
• 1:10:14
  that. So, is there anything else you'd
• 1:10:15
  like to share Kent? There's plenty of time for us to
• 1:10:18
  listen to him. Try to prove.
• 1:10:20
  He's a primate, okay? Looks like we got robbed UK in
• 1:10:24
  here. Hello Rob.
• 1:10:25
  How are you doing? I can hear me again.
• 1:10:28
  Would you like to ask him to question?
• 1:10:30
  Thank you for showing up. Yeah, I can.
• 1:10:34
  Hey, hi, I'm yeah. I've got it.
• 1:10:40
  You've had your ministry. What 50 years old.
• 1:10:43
  So how do you keep focused on your ministry and your purpose
• 1:10:48
  under God, when you have a lot of haters, a lot of criticism
• 1:10:54
  and your personal life comes into discussion and things like
• 1:10:59
  that. How do you mentally keep focused
• 1:11:02
  and how much do you suppose, how much supports Christian do you
• 1:11:06
  have? And do you generally tend to be
• 1:11:10
  quite lonely on? On your path, you know where
• 1:11:13
  you're the boss of your ministry.
• 1:11:15
  And obviously you'll have people coming in and trying to
• 1:11:19
  influence you or give you advice as to how you should do things.
• 1:11:23
  How do you keep Focus going forward?
• 1:11:26
  Hmm, well I think the captain of any ship in Wartime has to
• 1:11:33
  master. Stay focused, he's got a task,
• 1:11:36
  he's trying to get over here. And, you know, do this job with
• 1:11:38
  it and so things happen Torpedoes, come at him and
• 1:11:41
  Planes come at him and any in any wartime situation, the
• 1:11:45
  captain of the ship or the commander of the army or the
• 1:11:49
  president of the United States, he has a lot of distractions and
• 1:11:54
  they have to stay focused and God called me to do this
• 1:11:56
  ministry. I've had plenty of haters,
• 1:11:58
  that's for sure. Type in can't open and your
• 1:12:00
  computer will melt. The haters are incredible out
• 1:12:03
  there, just a good sign. I'm doing the right thing.
• 1:12:05
  I think I'm focused. I love the Lord.
• 1:12:07
  I'll be 70 in a couple days. I got saved when I was 16.
• 1:12:11
  And I've been trying to serve him most of the time ever since,
• 1:12:14
  you know, it's just I read his word.
• 1:12:16
  I've got a mission, I'ma try to please him at the end of this
• 1:12:20
  life. I want God to say, Well done,
• 1:12:23
  good and faithful servant. That's all I can do.
• 1:12:26
  I'm plowing my row. If somebody else wants to plow a
• 1:12:28
  different row, or flower different direction, I don't
• 1:12:30
  care. There's a lot of other creation
• 1:12:32
  Ministries people argue with each other, by different things.
• 1:12:35
  I don't have time for him. I'm busy plow on my row.
• 1:12:37
  I'm trying to plow it straight and deep that's all Rob.
• 1:12:41
  The seen you in comments and I believe I'm talking the past
• 1:12:44
  year, you're a big time. Supporter of can told them, you
• 1:12:48
  love his material, and all that, what is your top three pieces of
• 1:12:52
  content? That Kent has produce that you
• 1:12:54
  really really enjoy watching. Rob, you got to unmute your mic
• 1:13:02
  in order to speak. People are still learning how to
• 1:13:05
  do this, where you going to do? Yeah, I'm yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Well, I came to come across Kent's material, very light in
• 1:13:13
  my Christian path actually because I was 40 years and
• 1:13:16
  atheist and for 15 years, a Christian and I didn't discover
• 1:13:22
  discover Canova until about six years ago, but all of the stuff
• 1:13:28
  I've looked at from, Ken regarding evolution is spot-on
• 1:13:32
  and but the real interesting stuff that I found that really
• 1:13:39
  got me thinking a lot was to do with when he was covering
• 1:13:42
  covering covering the he's M's communism, socialism Nazism and
• 1:13:48
  their links to Eeveelution as well and hearing that was a
• 1:13:52
  really big wake-up call regarding the evil in the world
• 1:13:56
  and the links Harry ties back to it.
• 1:13:59
  Evolution. And I don't know whether people
• 1:14:02
  know this, but during the Communist era, the Communists
• 1:14:06
  created a paid activist group called The League of the
• 1:14:11
  militant atheists, and it's an actual activist group that the
• 1:14:17
  Communist set up to bring down the Christians and bring down
• 1:14:21
  Christian churches and kill pastors to obviously, forward,
• 1:14:26
  the agenda of Communism. So, you know, the correct.
• 1:14:29
  Term is League of militant Godless, which today will be
• 1:14:32
  League of militant atheists. So that's when I come across
• 1:14:36
  Kent material on, not zebras. And that's what really, you
• 1:14:39
  know, got me interested in though.
• 1:14:41
  I hadn't happened to that point seen Pastor approach evil in
• 1:14:47
  relation to Eeveelution, where it can lead and also, as you've
• 1:14:51
  covered earlier on today, Brett about how atheism can lead to
• 1:14:54
  things like suicide and depression, and etc, etc.
• 1:14:58
  So that's what really interested me about Cain and then I
• 1:15:01
  discovered the evolution stuff after that.
• 1:15:06
  Very good from your personal experiences.
• 1:15:08
  Have you noticed that people who do not seem to have God in their
• 1:15:12
  life? They seem to have a lot of
• 1:15:14
  difficulty with that, the put on a front and social media, but
• 1:15:17
  the ones, he actually met personally, or whenever he was a
• 1:15:20
  former atheist, was their anxiety and depression and all
• 1:15:24
  that very much so, and I was one of them.
• 1:15:27
  It's well, I was one of them, you know, for 40 years, I hadn't
• 1:15:31
  unhappiness in me, and the world didn't make sense.
• 1:15:34
  Anyway, And I can understand the atheist mindset.
• 1:15:39
  Then I kind of was, you know, can I decide?
• 1:15:41
  I separate the two out. I did separate out, a normal
• 1:15:45
  way, theist Behavior than atheist, mindsets regarding not
• 1:15:50
  having the information and coming to that conclusion, to
• 1:15:53
  militant atheists, who as Ken, obviously refers to ask offers
• 1:15:58
  as well, which is a correct term as well, where they're just so
• 1:16:03
  adamant that Science proves facts, and there's no deny,
• 1:16:08
  there's no debating and there's no nothing.
• 1:16:11
  There are just a literal facts or science produced and that's
• 1:16:14
  the end of the debate and that I can't get my head around.
• 1:16:18
  And my atheist friends are a lot more rational, although I have
• 1:16:23
  to admit some of my atheist friends are on medication for
• 1:16:26
  depression and things like that and they're questioning life as
• 1:16:31
  well obviously, especially at these time as As We Know by
• 1:16:34
  blend. X /, you're right.
• 1:16:37
  When I became born again it was like a realization of knowing
• 1:16:42
  how things work and that lifted a heavy burden off of me.
• 1:16:47
  Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 1:16:48
  I think you was the same for you as well.
• 1:16:50
  Brett, you know, it lifted a big burden off, you finding out that
• 1:16:54
  God was real. Yeah.
• 1:16:57
  Whenever I was an atheist, I watch Kent hovind and a lot of
• 1:17:01
  his views and has ideas and the things that he taught it.
• 1:17:05
  Was very helpful for me, was hopeful for me to be able to
• 1:17:08
  transition. I was really looking for some
• 1:17:11
  purpose and reason in the universe.
• 1:17:13
  I just felt like if this is all there is, oh goodness, gracious.
• 1:17:18
  So, I completely understand where you're coming from Rob and
• 1:17:21
  I'm sorry that you've had to go through that.
• 1:17:23
  I am happy to hear that things are looking up for you.
• 1:17:26
  Yeah. Yeah that's it.
• 1:17:27
  And the thing is is that I love listening to Kent.
• 1:17:30
  Hovind's Bible studies now as well because they are, they are
• 1:17:34
  short and sweet. Wheat and spot-on and you know
• 1:17:38
  you can spend about 15 20 minutes, half an hour, just
• 1:17:40
  watching them picking up so much about that particular study you
• 1:17:45
  know where is obviously other you know pastors they have their
• 1:17:48
  own gifts and things like that. They go into a lot more detail
• 1:17:51
  but it's nice quick and refreshing and you can pick up
• 1:17:55
  bullet points to pass on to other people.
• 1:17:58
  You know, they hear you there. Rob, there's a feel-good Kent to
• 1:18:03
  know because a lot of things that Was debate and discussions.
• 1:18:06
  You're usually in these battles with folks, who believe they
• 1:18:10
  come from sponges and you don't get to hear about the positive
• 1:18:14
  glorification, less than folks decided to call you and, you
• 1:18:17
  know, check out the website. And all that doesn't make you
• 1:18:20
  feel good to know that. You've actually helped sow some
• 1:18:24
  seeds and bring meaning and purpose into people's existence.
• 1:18:29
  Oh yeah, that's I do it to please the Lord.
• 1:18:32
  Now if people want to come along great if they Don't great.
• 1:18:35
  Most war hero is probably don't know their Hero at the moment.
• 1:18:39
  The other getting shot at and you know, so they find out at
• 1:18:42
  the end that the war. So I'm going to find out at the
• 1:18:45
  end. How many folks have been saved?
• 1:18:47
  How many folks have given that, you know, been by lives changed
• 1:18:50
  and that's up to God. I just want to keep plowing my
• 1:18:52
  row and planting seeds like crazy.
• 1:18:56
  So I'll debate all the atheist. I'll talk to him.
• 1:18:59
  They can come, visit dinosaur Adventure, Land at Lenox
• 1:19:01
  Alabama. Anybody come I got to get to
• 1:19:03
  bed, Brett. Let's do a show.
• 1:19:05
  Little earlier in the day. Sometimes, I do my program 7 to
• 1:19:08
  7:30 every night on Kent hovind official.
• 1:19:12
  Any time other than that, I'll be glad to come on drinks.
• 1:19:14
  It's an atheist to come on. Do a debate?
• 1:19:16
  I'll take them all on. We've been putting the link out
• 1:19:19
  there. Kent, I think they're scared of
• 1:19:21
  us or something there. They can't get that banana
• 1:19:23
  courage up. They were talking about.
• 1:19:25
  It's rough. But can't you have a beautiful
• 1:19:28
  night? And I hope a man having having
• 1:19:30
  open discussions with us. Makes you realize that keep
• 1:19:34
  having this strength and stuff that you are doing good.
• 1:19:38
  You're doing good in you. All right.
• 1:19:40
  God bless you. Can't.
• 1:19:42
  Thank y'all. All right, bye-bye.
• 1:19:47
  Oh well. What was your question water?
• 1:19:52
  I just wanted to tell Kent that a day.
• 1:19:54
  After he turns 70, I turned 25 and I enjoyed having this
• 1:19:59
  exchange and I hope to see him in heaven.
• 1:20:03
  We're a Proverbs are in a screen for a little bit.
• 1:20:05
  What a handsome man out, it's nice.
• 1:20:07
  Having Kenton will hang out for a few more minutes and then
• 1:20:11
  we'll shut her down and play some pretty music or something.
• 1:20:15
  What do you think? Proverbs.
• 1:20:17
  Hey, I think that sounds like a plan and water.
• 1:20:20
  I really wish you'd bring in one of your friends that also
• 1:20:23
  believes in evolution because I do feel bad that we're always
• 1:20:26
  teaming up on you. But that's the nature of the
• 1:20:29
  game when you're in a chat with people who believe in You know,
• 1:20:33
  religion, I can take it, I can take it all day.
• 1:20:39
  You know, what you really do, take it like a gentleman and
• 1:20:42
  I've always appreciated that about you.
• 1:20:44
  So even though we disagree on quite a bit, it's always a
• 1:20:46
  pleasure to have you in here and I did get a little flustered but
• 1:20:51
  no. Yeah, it's I enjoy having these
• 1:20:53
  conversations and you guys are very good hosts.
• 1:20:58
  Well, thank you, thank you. You you got to expect if you get
• 1:21:02
  into a discussion with Kent, he's very passionate about his
• 1:21:04
  views and so is everybody who's coming in here?
• 1:21:07
  So it gets exciting, it gets fun for sure.
• 1:21:10
  I feel bad for some of the folks out there there was a link out
• 1:21:14
  in the description. Also top of the comments when we
• 1:21:17
  do another show, hopefully you guys be prepared.
• 1:21:20
  You'll bring your SpongeBob's and your banana courage and
• 1:21:23
  teach us why we come from rocks. We are open-minded will hear you
• 1:21:27
  out. Won't we probably Verbs.
• 1:21:29
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:21:31
  Any denomination or atheist or Satanist or Pagan bring it in as
• 1:21:36
  long as you're respectful we'd love to have a back-and-forth
• 1:21:38
  dialogue, right? Me and Proverbs.
• 1:21:41
  Thank God, no hate against rocks either.
• 1:21:43
  Folks, we tend to rock and roll when we get our opportunity.
• 1:21:46
  Am I right? Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  Well, I was telling you earlier Brett, my idea of rock and
• 1:21:51
  roll's like 50s, 60s, and 70s music.
• 1:21:54
  But yeah, if you're counting that I rock hard to somebody
• 1:21:57
  Holly, hopefully, we can get missing mod in the future.
• 1:22:02
  It would be nice to see her and Ken Tobin having a discussion.
• 1:22:06
  All that you say, she's got a good voice and she's definitely
• 1:22:10
  a supporter. So he probably appreciate that
• 1:22:12
  hearing what she thinks. Yeah man I've tried so hard to
• 1:22:18
  get missing mod in here. I even told her she doesn't have
• 1:22:21
  to use a camera. She is just one stubborn little
• 1:22:24
  cuss. I've also tried to get my
• 1:22:26
  girlfriend to come on multiple times and she's just too shy.
• 1:22:29
  So I don't know. Maybe it's a female thing.
• 1:22:32
  I guess they're just too shy to engage with us.
• 1:22:34
  Brett because we're so so handsome.
• 1:22:37
  Maybe. I don't know what suppose,
• 1:22:39
  Stephen I suppose you and Ken to talk about the next show that we
• 1:22:43
  can do and get us a date. And time Kent's, really?
• 1:22:46
  Really interested in doing earlier shows because he's got a
• 1:22:50
  development to happen later on in the nights and stuff usually
• 1:22:53
  around 7 p.m. folks if you don't know unless you were actually
• 1:22:58
  born under a rock, he does do debates over at the standing for
• 1:23:02
  truth and you can also see him over it can Tobin's robbed, you
• 1:23:06
  got anything last to say to us and all that.
• 1:23:08
  It was nice having you? And I wish you would have got in
• 1:23:10
  earlier. Yeah, it's actually your 323 I
• 1:23:14
  am I Here, my friend. So I actually sent me a long
• 1:23:18
  time to get up and obviously, yeah, but basically, I love
• 1:23:22
  joining these discussions and debates as well.
• 1:23:26
  And I, I like I said to you on on chat, don't let anyone and
• 1:23:32
  that's kind of what I was trying to get Kent's advice on these.
• 1:23:36
  Don't stop what you're doing Brett, you know, I know it's
• 1:23:40
  hard and I know it's like, you know, you feel you're alone.
• 1:23:45
  On on your journey and I felt like that as well sometimes.
• 1:23:48
  And I've had to turn against Christians and things like that
• 1:23:52
  to go on my God, be part of where I ended up and the thing
• 1:23:57
  is, I enjoy, what you've done tonight, we've can and it's
• 1:24:01
  good. And I think, you know, I think
• 1:24:03
  more atheists will come in at some point.
• 1:24:05
  You know, if they're not too scared but it seems to me that
• 1:24:08
  some of the atheists are beginning to back off from Kent
• 1:24:11
  now. Because I think that whole
• 1:24:13
  summer show of, you know, on Standing for truth about, you
• 1:24:16
  know, is there scientific evidence for evolution?
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  I think I don't know whether any of them are thinking that the
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  science is very thin, but they've got very few arguments
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  left. And I agree with your net, I've
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  gotten emails from people while doing the show where they're
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  saying, right? I thought you had disagreements
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  with certain people, why are you getting along and all that?
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  Well, that's a, that's the Christian thing, as well as an
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  adult thing. Adults work things out.
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  We forgive. We forget, we move on.
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  We move towards the future. I know the atheist mentality is
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  what you disagreed with me. Slit his throat immediately.
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  That's not the way we do. We love you.
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  Exactly. In this thing, reconciliation is
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  a big thing and it's hard for Christians as well.
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  Especially young Christians, because obviously you become
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  born again. And then you think everyone's a
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  happy family, you're all going to agree and things like that.
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  But actually the discussion and debate about the Bible as well
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  about the things that aren't written in the Bible or what
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  increase your faith as well, because you're not going to have
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  all the answers. Because if God I gave you all
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  the answers, you'd become God, because you got all the answers.
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  So there's nothing to learn nothing to grow through, and
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  nothing to discuss. And that's the thing.
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  And that's what a thief, have a hard job with, and I know this
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  guy called J Bundy who obviously came on and debate, you can't as
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  well and obviously he's quite a strong, you know militant
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  atheist. As soon as he started agreeing
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  with Kent on certain things. I know in some ways he was being
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  sarcastic. But what happened is that All
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  the militant atheists and against him, they literally
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  turned late against him, like, it was a cult.
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  And that's kind of what Minister atheism is easy.
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  It's a, it's a bit of a cult to be fair and nothing like, like,
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  when I become a Christian from being an atheist, I joined an
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  atheist Channel. And I thought sharing my
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  testimony will turn out to be an interesting stuff on, but they
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  absolutely laid into me and I was like, what is going on?
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  here and I can't get my head around that first, but now I'll
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  get it, you know, with the scoffers and things like that,
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  you know, You deadly, we're going to me in Proverbs are
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  definitely it set up more shows where Kent will be coming in and
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  all that. But throughout the week,
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  sometimes, we'll just open up something randomly.
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  We're going to do Kent stuff. During the day, we'll try to
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  open up something to give people in different time zones, the
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  opportunity to chat because I love talking to folks like you
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  Rob. It's good stuff and you really
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  add a lot to the conversation. Well, I'm getting ready to shut
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  this down. I all I ask you all to do
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  whenever you get an opportunity. Opportunity is look at one of
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  your family members and give them a big old hug and say, God
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  loves you and so do I care my up a little bit.
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  Alright, here we go to mass this Sunday.
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