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223. Manifesting Success: From Off-Grid Living to Thriving Business with Shimrit Nativ · The Rochelle Christiane Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Emotional Mastery Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, rochelle.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a holistic human design health coach and this is a space for human design and spiritual journey.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: It's not about being a master of your emotions, rather mastering the tools to self-regulate, to awakening yourself and remembering who you are.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Human design changed my life about five years ago and I've been learning and teaching the system ever since.
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  Speaker 1: This podcast is human design meets spirituality, meets astrology.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to have a belief system to be here, just an open mind and curiosity.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: This is a journey of meeting yourself and awakening to your infinite potential.
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  Speaker 1: Now let the magic begin.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back for another week.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: This week on the podcast, I'm talking to Shimrit Nativ, who is a success and freedom mentor, ceo and founder of Master your Path Community, and her message is both powerful and uplifting.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: She says you can be, do and have anything you want, and it's never too late or too soon to go after your dreams and create the life you want.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Her story is so fascinating.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: She really is a testament to manifestation and spiritual growth.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: She's lived several lives and one of them was spending four years in nature with no modern facilities, and then she went from that to building a six-figure business in under a year during COVID during 2020.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: And it's just a really powerful story and reminder of, you know, kind of going back to the things that work, going back to the basics, going back to, you know, stacking habits like meditation, visualization, auto suggestions, all these really beautiful tools that we have, and it's really, it really is being consistent.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, over the last year, I mean, I think it's been longer than a year for so many of us, but for me, you know, I've just I've been trying to figure out a word that for this past year.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I usually have a word of the year before and after and I honestly don't actually remember what my word of the year is.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: I'd have to go through my journals, which I just did last week, but I didn't check for that one word for 2024.
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: But it's been so much this year.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: It's been shadow, it's been beauty, it's been growth, it's been blocks, it's been so much wrapped up in one year and it really has been this consistent, coming back to what works, like letting myself fall off when I've fallen off and not shaming myself, not guilty myself, having compassion and always knowing and always coming back.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: It is this, like you know, in the gene keys in human design, our core wound and our vocation are the same gate and it's really learning from that.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: And so for me, that's gate nine, which is, you know, gate nine is the gate of details, but it can.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: It's shadow is that looking?
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: It's like looking at the mountain and being overwhelmed and not even know how to start.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: So instead we need to just look at one foot right, just put one foot in front of the other, in front of the other, and it's like when you can do that, then things start to move.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: And that's been a huge lesson for me, because it's like I have this big dream, this big vision, and sometimes I look at it and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, we get overwhelmed and the shadow is just throwing your hands up and being like, nope, can't even do it, don't even know where to start, right, but it is just these little practices, it's just getting up every day and journaling and meditating and tapping and whatever works right, making sure I'm getting my, getting nourished and hydrated and good food, and it really is simple.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't isn't necessarily easy, right, because of the way that our society, culture, all the things, and this new moon, or, sorry, this full moon, which is happening tomorrow, so this podcast comes out on the 14th November.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: 15th is the full moon in Taurus, in gate 23.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: And this is significant for a lot of reasons, but, personally, my son is at 24 degrees of Taurus, in gate 23.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: And the moon is at 24 degrees of Taurus, in gate 23.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: And so, personally, this is really significant.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the lesson of this moon is checking in with your body, right, like doing a body check Are you eating good food, are you nourished?
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: And gate 23 is the gate of assimilation.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: But it's really about simplicity, right, the gift of this gate is in simplicity.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: And so in my own life, in my own practice, I'm constantly looking around of like, where do I feel, like, so complicated?
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: Where do things feel so complex?
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: Whether it is in my mind, right, am I overanalyzing something?
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: Am I overthinking something?
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, can I just come back to the basics?
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: Something overthinking something?
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, can I just come back to the basics, how can I make this simple?
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: And because it is in the throat center, I do notice when I'm over-communicating or my words are being jumbled and the message is being confused.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: It's like okay, how can I just distill this down to the really simple question or the really simple statement or the really simple?
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: I've had somebody reflect once before.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: You know how.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: You know, some people have a lot of words and it's so beautiful.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't have a lot of words, right?
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: I?
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I think, when I'm in my gift, I know exactly what to say and it's straight to the point and there's no fluff, there's no extra padding, there's no explanations, and that, I think, is when it's most powerful.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: And I am just very aware of that.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: And how you know, even applying to food, because Uranus is conjunct the moon, and this is really bringing us truth.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: It's really awakening to the truth of our food sources.
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: Right, like really assessing that, like what are we putting in our mouth?
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: Because as much as our mind can get complicated and overwhelmed, so can our food, and I think about processed food.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: There are so many ingredients, so complex of a food item, for just chicken, right?
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Like, think about Chick-fil-A chicken, I believe there's like a hundred ingredients for chicken, and so it's like we're making these things so overcomplicated and our body, as beautiful as it is, needs it to be simple, right?
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: These simple, healthy, beautiful ingredients are what really nourish the body.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: So it's really assessing that, you know, during this full moon Like again, what are we putting in our body?
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: How do we feel?
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: Are we sleeping enough?
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: Are we nourished?
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Just having this body check not necessarily that emotional check-in, which, of course, is a part of any moon cycle there's always going to be emotions attached to it but having this physical check in our body and really coming back to that space, and that's such a powerful space to be in.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: So, with all that being said, kind of going back to the basics, I think this podcast episode, again, it's a really beautiful story, a really powerful story, and it also is this reminder to come back to the things that work.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: And what I think is so beautiful with all the interviews that I've done is it kind of has this through line of coming back to the basics, which can be so difficult because we complicate our lives so much.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: Right, like consistently showing up and meditating or doing breath work or moving your body.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: These things are very simple, yet we make them so hard and so complicated, right?
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: It's like you don't have to get up and go lift weights for 45 minutes at the gym.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: You can simply just take a loop around your neighborhood, right?
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: Simple.
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: But we overthink it, we're in our head, we don't have enough time, we're too sore, whatever it is right, it doesn't feel good, whatever it is.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: But it's always this question to like, especially when it comes to working out, because I know that this year has been very strange for me.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: I'm usually like a five to six day a week in the gym and that has always felt good, but this year I've taken so much time off.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: I've dropped down to like three days a week and there's a part of me that for a while I was kind of like shaming myself.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: I've kind of gotten over that.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like maybe this is just the rest that my body needs, for whatever reason.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: But I always ask myself too.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: It's like will I have regretted going to the gym, right?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Will it have felt better to have done it?
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: I got that from Manifestation, babe.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: But that question is like how will I feel after the gym?
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: Never, ever, ever do I think, oh, I'm going to regret going to the gym.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: I always, always feel better for it, right?
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: So it's the same as meditation.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: It's the same as journaling it might feel tedious to do it, it might feel like you want to make every excuse in the book not to do it, but it is so simple Three to five minutes, set a timer and sit or walk around your neighborhood, listen to Binaural Beats, listen to some sort of frequency on Spotify.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: It's really simple, and so I think this full moon is asking us to stop with the bullshit, get out of our minds and just go back to what works.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Go back to what we know works.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: Right, I will leave it at that, because I could go on forever, but this episode is really good.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: You can connect with Shimrit.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Everything you need to know is linked in the show notes.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: You can go follow her on Instagram, follow me on Instagram at Rochelle Christian Website.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Holistic Human Design Academy is coming back.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: It will be officially starting December 15th and it will be open for enrollment December 26th I believe it's the day before Thanksgiving.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: It'll be open for enrollment then so you can sign up.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: There's a link in the show notes to get on the wait list so that when I open enrollment next week, next week or the week after the week after, you'll get the link straight to your inbox.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: Other than that, for Black Friday, I am having a sale on everything, so keep an eye out for that.
• 9:02
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• 9:20
  Speaker 1: Apple writing a review is super, super helpful, but I hope that you have a wonderful full moon, even if it's emotional, right.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: These are all lessons to move us through.
• 9:32
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• 9:33
  Speaker 1: I'm always posting all the astrology transits and all the good stuff, so enjoy the episode and I will talk to you soon.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Emotional Mastery Podcast.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: Today I have Shemrit Nativ, who is a success and freedom mentor and CEO and founder of Master your Path Community.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get into this conversation with you today, talking about all things success, manifestation, fears that hold us back, all those types of things.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: We'll start with just you sharing your story, kind of you know, any pivotal moments along the way that got you to where you're at, and then we'll really just dive into what you do and you know how people can tap into that.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: First of all, rochelle, I'm so excited and honored to be here and yeah, also very happy to have this conversation with you today.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: And, yeah, also very happy to have this conversation with you today.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: Ooh, pivotal moments on my journey.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: There were quite a few.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Let's see, I have to step out of our conversation for a moment.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: I I'm guessing you're gonna edit this right, yeah, yeah, thank you, because my son was just calling me this is unbelievable, like don't call me between this time and the other time.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not gonna answer.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: This completely threw me off.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: No worries, it's okay.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's calling me again, so I cannot speak to you.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: I'm in an interest, all right.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: So there were so many pivotal moments that led me to here.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Um, maybe we can start with, I guess, the most recent one or one of the most recent ones, which is when I was already in this entrepreneurial journey and it was sometime around in my first year of my business.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: So I started my business in early 2020.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: And I really had no business experience whatsoever.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: I was a musician for more than 20 years and I had so much to learn.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: I had a lot of motivation and very, very clear goals, and when I got started, I invested a lot in learning how to set up the business and how to go online and everything that has to do with that, and I was sure that my mindset is where I needed to be, that I have everything you know set up in that sense, and and I went all in and I reached my goals in the first year and I reached six figures in less than a year and you know, everything was going great, but my system was not holding.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: I did not have the MJEC path to $100.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I had a team.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: I expanded very quickly but I burned out very quickly too.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: And even though I was helping people with all the tools that I had and I was helping people break through their burnout and anxiety, I myself was really not holding the load of all of that and it reached a point where I had to stop my business and really come down to zero and let go of my team and everything and just serve the clients that I already had.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do marketing, I couldn't do sales, I couldn't do any of that because the burnout was so severe and I had terrible symptoms on my skin and I have scars till this day symptoms on my skin and I have scars till this day.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: And that was a very maybe not a pivotal moment, but a pivotal time because I realized that, as much as my mindset was very strong and I was very motivated, and as much as I've done so much inner work before that to bring me to where I was at that time, that never stops and the expansion, the inner expansion, has to continue in order for the external expansion to be possible and sustainable.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: And that was very, very, very pivotal for me because this led me to another very big breakthrough in my own journey and understanding on such a deeper level, you know, another very big breakthrough in my own, in my own journey and, um understanding on a such a deeper level how the subconscious programming um, you know, controls us and uh, and then gaining new tools, uh, and the most powerful tools, um, that I've unlocked till this day, I guess, to actually rewire that and shift that and break through on those levels.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: And from there everything started, you know, expanding again, and it also led me to work with some incredible mentors, uh, because I was really searching for solutions and for support and that got me to work with bob proctor and with dr joe disppenza and it really expanded my toolkit to help people, so it allowed me to reach greater impact.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: So that's one of them.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I can share quite a few more, but I'll let you ask for more if you want, or maybe you want us to tune into anything else.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, 2020 was a year I feel like so many things stopped right, and to go from zero to six figures in that year is impressive in itself.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like during that time, when you were hitting burnout, did you stop doing the inner work?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Was it sort of just more focused on, like the in and out and like kind of eat, sleep and breathe the business?
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I guess I well, I wouldn't say stopped the inner work, but I did not do it as consistently, probably, and also just not in a way that matched where I was going and where I was reaching, you know.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: So, you know, on a subconscious level, there are so many patterns it's this program is is a multitude of patterns, and there were some patterns that did not match where I was reaching for, for example, I had, I had an underlying belief, if we simplify this, I had an underlying belief that more success requires more burden and sacrifice, and so I did sacrifice my health and my time with my family and my joy for my success, and I did experience more burden as my success, as I was more successful.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: So I had to, you know, even if I was doing and or even though I was doing, my inner work, I wasn't working on breaking through these limiting patterns that I that were still active and were activated and triggered and, yeah, and again, as, as I said, probably just not doing my inner work also as consistently, which is a which is a sabotage pattern that we have, it's one of the classic sabotage patterns that we have is to drop our you know our inner work and our, you know, you can even just call it self-care, I guess, but it's much more than that that we drop.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been doing a lot of my own work around those subconscious beliefs from you know, I have always like felt it in my body and I think it's a matter of like sitting with it and really exploring that deeply.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when we hear, you know, of someone gaining success in you know less than a year, a year, I think we don't really sometimes see the amount of work and the years of work that went into it before that point.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Because, like you said, there are so many subconscious beliefs that we really have to break through and rewire in order to believe that we can get there and have the trust and the faith and all the things that'll take us to that place.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: So, for you, prior to that, what did that work look like?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Like what is inner work in your world?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Prior to that or today, because I guess both.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well, let's start today, because this is the best.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: The best that I have to share is what I do today, right?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: So today, you know, work looks like for me.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I find that it's a combination of practices and routines and processes and tools that does the magic.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: The combination, the magic combination which includes meditation, obviously.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: So that means you know whether to use, whether I use, a guided meditation.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I actually love using my own guided meditations.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Truly, I just discovered this recently because actually I always used, used to use other guided meditations of my teachers or resources that I have, and my my own.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I would record and, just you know, send it out to my community or whatever.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And just recently I started using my own guided meditation, like, oh, that's actually pretty cool and which is great also because our subconscious is very suggestive, like our own voice is very effective on our subconscious.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So, anyway, meditation very, very, very important to practice.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I see the meditation as our rehearsal room.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So real life, real life situations are like the stage for life that we cannot practice in the rehearsal room, like the lights and the audience, and you know our own reaction to all of those distractions or impressions and whatnot.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So some things cannot be practiced, but in real life, in real life situations and our reactions to them.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: However, in order to be most prepared for that, for the stage, we have to rehearse, right?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I come from performance and for music, so I have many, you know, metaphors and analogies to that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: We have to practice, we have to be in the rehearsal room in order to be ready to be at our best when we are on the stage of life.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So meditation is kind of like that we retrieve from sensory impressions and we practice.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Just.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: There are all kinds of meditation, right Observing our own thoughts or really quieting the mind and focusing on whatever the breath or the guided meditation or a sound or mantra or whatever and really mastering our attention, basically, and really mastering our attention basically, and then tuning into the field, into the non-physical, and then you can do all kinds of processes in that space, like healing processes or manifestation processes, visualizations, and so meditation absolutely, and then study.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: So study can be through reading, through listening, which I love, but I find it absolutely essential to every day saturate my mind with truth.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And I find it even more essential when I am in more challenging times and when my own inner talk gets more like back in old, outdated patterns of negative or limiting thoughts.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And so to just saturate my mind with truth and direct my attention to that, and also because studying in a very specific way, because repetition is how we program ourselves.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: This is how our subconscious program was created in the first place, that's how skills are created, that's how patterns are created.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And so not only just listening to whatever, but also listening to specific things on repeat, so like the same, or reading the same piece, the same segment, even like literally the same chapter or paragraph over and over, and, over and over again, until I know it by heart.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I love this term knowing by heart, which we use when we say, when we, when we talk about the process of memorizing something, for example.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Memorizing something for example, but actually the heart is the subconscious, is the emotional level of our mind and of our being or our system.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And so to know something by heart is really to rewire it and reprogram it and, you know, internalize it in this way, and we do that through repetition.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: So studying in this way.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And then number three is auto-suggestion, again with repetition, for the same reason.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So that's what we call affirmations, but in a specific way that is effective.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So it must be done in a way that actually activates emotion, so it really changes our vibration.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That was my son in the door, but I hope it will open the door.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Um, and so, yeah, um, meditation, study, auto suggestion and, um, then any kind of movement.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not the fitness, uh, big fitness type, definitely not a fitness coach, but moving the energy through the body, whether through breath, physical movement of any kind, is very, very, very, very important.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And then, um, gratitude, you just directing our attention to what is that we can appreciate, that we can celebrate.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Doing that through writing is most effective, committing to joy, committing to appreciation, and doing that through writing which helps us focus.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: This is like the daily routine.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And then there are deeper dives into all kinds of processes, you know, working with my mentors or my own tools that I've, you know, accumulated over the years, and just deep, deep diving into certain processes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So, meditation, study, auto-suggestions, movement and gratitude as like your base, that's every single day.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Is that something that you stack during a specific timeframe or you have different parts of the day that you do it?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Great question.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I really believe in stacking habits, so I love that you've brought that in here, of course, gradually, so I didn't start all of those all at once and, to be honest, I don't always do all those, you know, every single day.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: But mostly, yes, most days, in most periods, I love stacking habits.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's really effective.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and some things I do simultaneously as well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So, for example, I love working out while studying many times or while doing the auto-suggestion even, because then again, you're flowing all those chemicals in your body as you're working out, so you're already in a higher vibration and feeling those elevated emotions, just because you're doing that with your physical body, getting yourself into that state, and then you're writing out, you know what you're grateful for, for having or for you know calling into your life or whatever that may be.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: This is a very effective way to do exactly what I was saying before.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You know affirmations with the emotional charge to them.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: So it's literally stacking them up and you know, and in the same, even at the same time.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But so it's literally stacking them up in, you know, in the same, even at the same time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But then it's also very important to do them throughout the day, because you know, if we okay, amazing, we have an amazing morning routine, which I really recommend having but then after a few hours doing all the things you do, maybe you know, receiving all kinds of information that is making you feel all kinds of emotions that are not that elevated.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's really important to tune yourself back.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: It's like a guitar that got out of tune, so you don't want to continue playing that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You better just stop for a moment and bring it back to to atonement and then continue your concert.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the stage of life, right, and then also it's very, very important to do something before you go to bed, as you kind of enter gate of consciousness and then as you exit it back into subconscious when you go to bed and when you go to sleep, very important as well.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like to try and do my affirmations as I'm falling asleep, but it's just so interesting how then I'll like start dreaming at the same time, and it's just like sometimes there's a big contrast to what I'm affirming and what my dream begins Right, and I think that also is really telling of like what's going on in the subconscious Right, and then you can work with that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this summer I went through, I guess, sort of like a dark night of the soul.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I felt very lost and confused and just was so resistant to all of the routines that I normally hold.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And so now that I think, with my kids in school getting started again, being able to stack those routines again and those rituals, it's crazy how it's not's.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful how much it stabilizes you, you know, and I think that when we're in those dark spots, we we forget because we're so resistant to it, you know, and just being able to come back to a practice and making it a ritual of like, okay, I'm going to get up this morning and this is what I'm going to be doing, and it really, really is powerful to see the contrast between, you know, not having it and then having it and knowing that you'll come back to it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so how does that look different from the work that you did prior to your business taking off?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, um, well, before I started my business, I was in a uh, a very different, uh, you know lifestyle and focus.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I was a musician, an active music.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I'm still a musician, but I was an active musician.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So my practices look different, you know, because through my music, through my musical practice, I also did my.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So that was a spiritual practice in and of itself, right, and also tuning into spirit to receive you know the melodies or the lyrics, or you know the creative ideas.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: That was a spiritual practice in and of itself.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: My motivation to do that was to write music or to, you know, be inspired in that way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: But so it kind of served.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: That was part of my practice and it was not so much like a morning routine or an evening routine as I have today, um, although meditation was always there, for sure, Uh, for sure, for sure, um, and, of course, there was the transition time between starting.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So there was speaking of pivotal moments.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Another pivotal moment that I had prior to my business was the realization that I'm going to create this career change.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So this is, if I started my business in early 2020, we're talking like probably two years before, almost before, almost.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: This was literally a moment, actually, I mean, of course there were things leading to it, but it was a period of time where I already didn't like going on tours and every time I had to pack my stuff and go out on a tour, I resented it and I felt like a lot of resistance and I really knew that I was just not going on my right path and I always knew I had this other gift of helping people in the way that I do today.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Um, so this was already a loud calling.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: But then there was one day I went on a tour and I remember the night before I literally was crying as I was packing my gear and my stuff because I just did not want to go.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And then I woke up in the morning and I got myself, you know, motivated and I got on the train like okay, we're doing this, you know, and I got myself in there speaking of practices.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So you know, I had my own practices, I guess, to get myself, you, my energy up.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: And then I took the train to the wrong uh airport, uh, and I got into the airport like okay, and I I felt terrible, I was crying and I was.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I even called my mom.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I called my mom.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I felt like a little girl.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But then I I said, okay, no, I'm canceling this, this tour, I'm not making the impossible effort to get to my plane on time, and that's it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And that was my last tour.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And, uh, from that point on I just decided to clear out everything.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, I was still teaching music, so that was my job, like that was what I was doing for my income, but, but other than that, I was just opening myself to guidance.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: So this is back to now.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Your last question prior to my business, what was my practice?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So there was a time when really, I had a lot of time because I did not yet have a business spent a lot of time in meditation and in dream work.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So dream work was always a tool for me.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I also done a lot of courses around that and trainings to become a certified dream teacher with a great, great, great, great master, robert Moss.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So this was already so.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I was always on my spiritual journey and I always gathered tools and, of course and I had my own healing journey with my body.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: So I've always gathered tools for my own journey and my own expansion and growth.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And so during that time when I was asking for guidance.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Just what am I to do next?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Like I had no idea.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I was a musician for more than 20 years and I was already very clear after that pivotal moment that this is not my path anymore.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And I had a general idea that I'm going to work with people and help them with my other gifts, but I had no idea what that would look like, what should be the next step, and I did a lot of meditations and a lot of dream works.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So I would really like record all of my dreams and categorize, like from the word catalog.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I would put them in like a catalog for myself to come back and see oh, this was in this month and I was in this point of my cycle and you know difference.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Like I really went deep into dream work to receive guidance.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: So that was a lot of my practice then, yeah, and then I started doing all kinds of trainings and including those.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: So I did like Kundalini yoga and Satnamasayan, which is a healing method that stems from Kundalini, and I just incorporated all these different tools into my practice and now into, yeah, into what I do today is tools to serve.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Dreamwork is so interesting because I've always recorded my dreams.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just write them down.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I've never really.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they're confusing and I'm like I don't know what the message is and I just don't stay with it long enough.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But lately and I don't know if it's because we have the Pisces eclipse tomorrow but over the last few weeks they've been so vivid and holding a lot of meaning, whether it's dragonflies or pregnant women or baby.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I see the messages a lot more clearly than I have in the past and I think I'm sitting with them a little bit more.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: So I think that's so interesting.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And how I mean, when you're having a dream that just seems like it's so random and like all over the place, how do you go about like interpreting that to have meaning to your life?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, there's a process that is really simple to apply that I learned from robert moss, my teacher.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Um, he calls this lightning dream work.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Lightning, as in, speed lightning and, I think, clarity too.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So you know, shedding light on on the dream, and I'm happy to share it with here.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's really quick, it's really simple.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: First of all, as you said, it's so important to write it out or to share it with here.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It's really quick, it's really simple.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: First of all, as you said, it's so important to write it out or to record it, whatever, but just to take, as soon as you wake up, to take all the information that you can still gather, even if it seems random, as you say, and unrelated.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Don't question anything, don't try to analyze it while you're doing this, just try to gather as much information as you can.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And even if this is not a lot of information maybe it's just like a color or a sensation or, like you know, a tale of something just grab onto whatever you can and write it down or record it, and then pay attention and write it out.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: So note the feeling you woke up in.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So not only the feeling that you had in the dream, if you remember that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: But how did you wake up?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: With what feeling which sometimes is not the same and can even be opposite are like I don't know, vomiting and you know, going through this terrible experience and may or maybe a scary dream or whatever and actually wake up with this peaceful feeling, right, or you can have just an ordinary dream, not much, but wake up with a sickening feeling.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: So this feeling that when you wake up is a really, really important indicator.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: And then you want to give a title to your dream and as you ask yourself the question, what is the title to the dream?
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Don't overthink it, just whatever comes to mind.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it will just be obvious, but sometimes this alone can reveal more meaning to the dream for you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And then you want to ask yourself any background information that can be relevant to your dream, from your own life or other dreams, or just anything.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: So, if you know, you can sometimes ask yourself this question, as if you were to tell this dream to I don't know, an alien or someone who doesn't know anything about our culture.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Or you know, like I don't know, if you had, if you you saw I don't know taylor swift in your dream, or you, or it was you know some, some detail of your dream in some way, then you want to note like you want to be aware of that because, as if you were, you had no idea who Taylor Swift was.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So an X level background to the dream and this is kind of like the information you want to gather on the dream, right?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: So the dream itself, how you felt when you wake up, when you woke up, the title to the dream and any background to the dream from real life or your other dream world.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Title to the dream and any background to the dream from real life or your other dream world, like your real or dream, like physical reality or dream reality.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That is background to this specific dream at any on any level.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: That's the information you want to gather.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: And then you want to ask yourself okay, what do I want to learn about this dream, what are my questions?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And even if you do this only with yourself and not with anyone else, this alone will just, you know, it will just surface up clarity and information and guidance for you.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And, of course, dream work is really good to do with other people.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: So, even if it's just one other person, and then you share all this with them.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And what is your question.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And then you invite them to reflect back as if it was their dream.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: So they are not imposing on you any meaning, they're just sharing if this was my dream, and then they are free to say whatever they have to say.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe this reminds them of their own dream or childhood, or what happened to them yesterday, or whatever, and it can be all relevant and fruitful for you as well as for them, because we're all connected in reality, in real reality and definitely in the dream world, right?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And then you take whatever you can from this and then, lastly, you then declare an action you're going to take in order to anchor in and bridge between the dream world and your physical world.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: It can be as simple as I don't know researching something that came up in the dream, or drawing something from the dream, or wearing something blue, or writing a bumper sticker, kind of statement for yourself to remember something.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It can be symbolic or not, just any action that brings this into the here and now for you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the process, and so a lot can be revealed through that, even if the dream can seem super random and irrelevant to your life.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I've just been trying to be more intentional about discerning and being in tune with my dream world so that it can be more, I guess, more vibrant or just clear to me.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: You know, through what I'm receiving.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: This is such a powerful process, super simple.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I recommend doing that with any dream that you feel is potent or not, but I mean you can do this with every single game If you really have the time and capacity, just do this.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: It can also go fast, yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It will be a lot for you.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I love that most of these tools are actually really simple, you know, and I think, like, when we're talking about meditation, I've always, you know, I struggled with meditation in the beginning, but then, you know, like you relate it to music.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It really is like a discipline and a practice in order to really tune into it and tap into it and make it part of your daily routine.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Like I've been meditating, you know, for I don't know, probably like the better part of five years now, and there's still some days where I'm like Nope, just not feeling it today, right, but I think, like also switching it up, like my gym is not far from me, so sometimes, instead of just driving to the gym, I'll plug in and do a walking meditation and I'll walk to the gym, right, and so it's sort of like you said, those stacking where it's not necessarily like I have to get up at 4am and do all these things before my kids wake up.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You know, cause, I think, you know, being a mom and working and all those things make it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: We, we make excuses to make it not fit our life, right, but I think, getting out of our own way.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So how do you, you know, when you're working with people, are these tools that you teach them, or do you focus more on, like the manifestation process, like how does that work?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's both and more.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Um, the daily routine, uh, is really important, super, super, super, super important, and so when I work with people, we put a lot of emphasis on that, actually, and on accountability around that Um, and then I mean it's, it's, it's not this or manifestation, I think it's, it's, it's all part of it, right, in order to manifest.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, we manifest all the time.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Everything that we experience in our life is, is our manifestation.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: It's just a question of if we're doing that deliberately and intentionally and consciously or not, or if we are able to manifest what we actually desire, uh, and that's the mastery and, as you just said, just like any other skill to master it and any other instrument to master it, you must practice, um, and so the daily routine is just part of the practice and an essential part of the practice, so we can manifest, uh, what we actually desire, and not the other way around.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So, um, there there are the, the, there is the daily routine.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: That requires a lot of accountability, which is a big part of what coaching and mentorship is about deeper layers in the subconscious program, uh, to bring more healing into certain, you know, levels of our being, um, and um also to bring um, you know, to create more, more clear and effective visions and goals and to put that into action in a more effective way.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: So they are all kind.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: There are different aspects to to the work that I do with clients.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Um, it can also be more on the actionable and tangible level of things, as in business, you know, and, uh, putting things into into action in that sense, um, yeah, so it's, it's both, and I see all all of those pieces as pieces of the same hole, yeah, yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And how important is nature?
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Because you lived in completely like off grid right For like four years.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I believe it was, yes, yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: How did that experience shape?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Like who you are now and what you do.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost five years and it feels like asking me about another lifetime.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It was still in this lifetime.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm 44 years old and it was in this 44 years that I'm in this physical body, but it feels like it was another lifetime of mine, Although I still am connected to nature very much.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: But I live in a big city now for eight years in Berlin in Germany, Although it's a beautiful city with a lot of nature compared to a big city.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful for that, and it's still very important for me, and I actually speaking of, by the way, what you said before you know how you go to bed and you try to do your affirmations, but you realize that your dreams can be contradicting to that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: If we clear out our unconscious before going to bed simply by, first of all, writing it all out and then just um, submitting it to earth, by, you know, standing uh, bare feet, barefoot on the the ground, or even touching a tree, something that is, you know, like connected to Mother Earth, can be really, really helpful, which is a technique that I learned from my mentor, so that I wanted to say that when you shared that when you ask about how important is nature, then this is you know, this is very important because we are one with nature and we forget that, especially if we don't live close to nature like I live in a big city it's very easy to forget that you know, I'm not alone and I am supported, and it's not just me carrying all the burden, and you know, and uh, and, and there's mother, mother earth here.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you know, that is nurturing, carrying me.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Actually, this is one of the most um, uh, powerful tools that I use in meditations that I guide is, first of all, to come back to the awareness of gravity.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Like we are grounded unconditionally.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: We have an energetic, magnetic root, literally, or cord, that connects us all the time unconditionally to Mother Earth, and just realizing it, coming back to the awareness of it, gives us a lot of relief and confidence, and so nature is very important.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: And then, yes, there was a time in my 20s, so most of my 20s basically, or half of my 20s, was living off-grid.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was living um outdoors and basically with no like shower or toilet or kitchen, or there was like some copper, it wasn't just out, it wasn't in a tent, there was some structure, but it was, um, not completely sealed and closed and there was no facilities and, uh, we were just cooking on fire and warming our water for fire, like for for shower, on the fire and and so on.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And that's actually when I started playing, uh, my flute and uh got getting very much into music, um, as well as into healing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: So my passion to to bring healing and to find ways to bring healing manifested in me going very much into plant, um, plant like healing, plant medicine not in the sense of like ayahuasca and stuff like that, I mean like just the natural habitat, you know, plants around, simple plants, just learning about their healing abilities and how to extract them and use them.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And so I was, yeah, playing music and collecting plants and making medicine out of them and yeah, yeah, and making medicine out of them and yeah, it's a different time.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Very, very powerful, very, very special.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I've done quite a bit of traveling and it's always, I feel, like the most magical trips have been when I'm in nature, like not connected to my cell phone, or even a long time ago, when I traveled and there was no not connected to my cell phone, or even, you know, a long time ago, when I traveled and there was no cell phones, you know, and you had to like go into a city to like call somebody.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And just because I think, like even in our normal days, we're afraid of bugs, we're afraid of wildlife, and it's almost like we're afraid of ourselves, you know, because nature is so healing and, like you said, when you were there and playing music and realizing that you wanted to heal people, I think that's like nature's calling Right.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've recently been studying herbalism and the you know understanding.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: You know, like you said, not psychedelics but just plant medicine, because we've been using it for centuries and we've forgotten the power of these things.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: And you know just realizing sometimes our own power.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yeah, and I think you know we want to take out these certain compounds of things and the actual plant, I think, is where the magic is, you know, and it's just such a beautiful area, I guess, to experience, or or or, you know, it lights up our senses.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a Taurus sun, so I'm always about like earth and nature and you know, and, and I noticed, when I am disconnected from that, like I just I feel it, you know, and so, yeah, I just it's such a I don't know I maybe, when my kids are grown and out of the house, I'll find a year to just spend with myself somewhere in nature, but I love that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, actually, me too.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: And as much as I love the city, I love people, as much as I love nature and I love the interaction and the movement, you know, of the city and culture, yeah, I miss, I miss being closer to nature, actually.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: It's been something that I've been thinking a lot about recently, to be honest.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just turned 38 this year and I think that it's just like this part of my life, too, where I've realized all the things that we're like chasing or or that we make so difficult, it's like not that it doesn't matter, but it just it kind of doesn't matter.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: You know, and I feel like I'm going back to the simple and the basics, and you know, somebody the other day was like you seem so calm, like how do you not stress about things?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I just, if I can't control it, you know, I guess like what's the?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: What's the?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: What's the?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: point.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: But there's no point of stressing anyway, it's just our survival mechanism that causes us to do that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, yeah, I like uh, growing older actually.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just talking about this with my son the other day.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I realized that there's like a lot of work here that I haven't noticed recently and I like that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, something about 38 for me.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It was like I don't know if it was just like that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: It's that number for me.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it freaked me out, but it felt very real in a way that like birthdays haven't before.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: But then once it passed, I was like you know what I'm actually really loving this phase of my life.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: So it just, I don't know, it was a really interesting like number for some odd reason.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so can you tell us just a little bit about the Master your Path community and just how people can find you and how they can work with you and what that looks like?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for asking.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Well, this is an incredible community.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I've been to many and many amazing, amazing communities.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: There's something about this family that is just heart, heart blowing and mind blowing for me.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: There is so much love between the people in this community, so much support, so many, so many, so many friendships have formed and collaborations and partnerships, not only in our mastermind.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: So we have our mastermind community.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: The mastermind itself is called Rise.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And then we have the inclusive community, which is including everyone.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Actually, when we came up with the inclusive, it was first called Master your Path, the exclusive community.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: We already created the banners and everything at the time, and then I was like I told my team no, we have to change everything.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It's not the exclusive, it's the inclusive, it's supposed to be including everyone.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: So we have the inclusive community, which is really for everyone.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: And well, the inclusive community, uh, which is really for everyone.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: And well, to find me, I think, uh, well, you're going to include some links in the description of your podcast, I guess.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, right, so you can find me there.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I think the best, um, the best way, the best thing to do is to send me a message on Instagram.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, actually, uh, we have a really beautiful meditation that I would love to offer anyone who's listening to this.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, we have a really beautiful meditation that I would love to offer anyone who's listening to this.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It's called Moving Energy Beyond the Senses, and it's really, really one of my favorites Super short and powerful and effective.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: So, if you send me a message on Instagram you can find me, chimrit Nadim, and send me a message Energy then I'll know that you're, you're coming from here and you want that meditation and I will send it over to you, and for free, of course.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Um, otherwise, if you want to go a bit deeper, there is a free three days workshop that you can find you.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I'll send you the link, uh, rochelle.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So you can include that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: it's called all the way to the Top and it goes a bit deeper.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: It's a three days workshop that we've recorded that people absolutely love, so I'm happy for people to tap into that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think these are great places to start.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: So either send me a DM on Instagram or find the link below and just go into that three days workshop, or do both.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Thank you so much for sharing that with the audience and thank you for coming here and sharing your story, and I think you know this has been such a lovely conversation.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I really really enjoyed it and I'm very grateful to have the opportunity to be here with you and to share some, some good tools and ideas with your audience.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: So thank you so much thank you you.