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62. Our verdict on the Mysteries of Mythoss! · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall. Now it is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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  fake hammer. Oh.
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  A fake? Whoa.
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  As I say, Dick. Stonehenge, Mary Celeste.
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  The Bermuda Triangle, The Construction of the pyramids,
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  The Loch Ness Monster. Malaysian Air Flights 370.
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  The Ark of the Covenant. The Holy Grail, Gone Girl, The
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  Da Vinci Code, Dolly Parton, Still looking about 25.
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  Simon Cowell's hair. They're all big mysteries.
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  And now we have the mysteries of mythos.
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  How we doing, boys? Malcolm, how are you?
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  I'm all good, all good. You weren't prepared for that,
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  were you? OK.
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  It was very good. I like that couple of beers
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  after work to lubricate the wheels and I've had a bike to
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  eat and I am ready and raring to go.
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  Oh, so we're going to get some troop bombs tonight then, is
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  that it? That's it.
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  Same punk all the way. And Rich, after nearly
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  destroying yourself in the fish tank, how are you?
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  I'm. I'm good, thank you.
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  Like Mal, I've had a couple of beers, so that's always a good
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  start as I'm ploughing through Stargate SG-1 at the moment too.
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  John, I think you find the mysteries of the pyramids were
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  that they were landing sites for gold spaceships.
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  It's been clearly explained series, so come on.
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  OK, sorry. Well, you know, I just looked up
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  various mysteries, you know, because I'm not that intelligent
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  to know all them off the top of my head, So I didn't look too
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  much further. Google says it's a mystery.
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  So I'm good with that. I'm probably even good with
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  Wikipedia, you know. So we had, we had an interesting
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  little, I don't sorry Rich, tell the listeners about your fish
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  tank drama here, oh, before the show.
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  It's I've got to bore people now, but I'm no relatively small
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  fish tank. There's a small opening in the
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  top that you put the food in. I've got sinking food to make
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  sure it doesn't bloat the fish. I've got a like a dessert spoon
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  that I scooped some water up with.
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  Drop the food on that, let it soften up, then just tip the
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  spoon. Food goes in the tank.
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  Fish are happy. I had the tank going for about
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  20 months now and for the first time ever I dropped the spoon in
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  the tank. There was fish going in all
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  directions. I'm pretty sure I probably
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  squashed a a shrimp or two, demolished one of my plants and
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  because it's such a tiny small opening in the lid then I had to
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  set the whole lid off the tank to to retrieve the spoon poof up
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  the the plant, etcetera, etcetera.
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  It's. Yeah.
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  Bit of a disaster and was there any, was there any fish going
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  through the sitting room then after you took the lid off or?
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  No, as far as I'm aware, nobody jumped.
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  I mean, I think the smell in a couple of days will give away if
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  that's not the case. But yeah, no, they they're,
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  they're all in there. So, but yeah, I mean, I'm so
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  clumpy, as I've said on this show before now, where I've
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  fainted and fallen, etcetera, that, you know, it's a miracle
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  it took twenty months for it to happen.
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  Well, let's see next week. If if all the fish are still
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  intact, I'm sure we'd be. My I have my fingers crossed for
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  the little fishes, you know. Are you going?
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  But as I said, in 20 months and since, yeah, but yeah.
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  As I said when you told me that first, you've spent twenty
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  months absolutely immaculately feeding the fish, so you should
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  feel proud of that. Exactly, yeah.
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  You know, 5 minutes before recording a podcast is not
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  ideal. Time to to mess it up, yeah.
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  It's yeah, not ideal, but it's very much it's.
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  Very much on brand for Richard Jones, no.
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  We should do this as a competition for our listeners.
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  Before the spoon incident, I had 28 fish in the tank.
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  How many do people think I'm going to have tomorrow?
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  Help 20. 7 1/2 Yeah. Oh my dear, dear.
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  Anyway, I'll give you more. I'll give you more ammunition to
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  get a bigger tank in the future. I'll say to my wife was like,
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  but with a bigger tank I could just roll the lid back and not
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  to worry about taking off and making a mess.
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  Yeah, there's always, there's always a bigger stuff, you know,
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  But will it take up the room for more figures?
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  No, it'll actually go in the same space as the current tank.
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  There's lots of Spacey the side at the moment.
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  Take up the room where the gerbils are.
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  No, when the the. Fish are nice and quiet, you
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  know. They are.
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  No, we've we've already said because our gerbils are both
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  quite elderly that when they go we get 40 God, like we had, we
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  had four originally in this lot. So you'll have 4 gerbils making
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  a noise, John so. Furiously searches for audio
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  plugins to get rid of speaking noise from the track right?
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  Anyway, people have had enough of that now.
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  I guess at this stage they want to know what we think of the
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  blind boxes, the mystery of mythos.
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  So that's what was revealed, the blind boxes.
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  And I'll be very straight up and say that immediately when I saw
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  this I sent a message and said no, not for me, no, that wasn't
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  typically did from being for anyone else.
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  And I know there's loads of other good stuff coming up, but
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  that was my starting point. So let's see where we get to by
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  the end of this. And I think Mal, you're more Mr.
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  Positive on this. You know you you are generally
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  the more +1 in the group. Yeah, I mean, I would say mixed
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  feelings, which again we can go more into as we go and still.
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  But you were. You were definitely.
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  Trying to I was less the Cliff. Yeah, I was less negative as we.
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  Were chatting about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. And you're rich.
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  A bit mixed as well, really. I'm a fan of mystery boxes in
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  general, so that that respect is quite cool.
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  I won't be getting where's the fence sound effect.
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  I've got virtual the figures, so I probably won't be getting any
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  myself, but yeah, I think, you know, we'll discuss it.
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  But for some people it's a great thing.
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  Some people it's not a great thing.
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  I mean, I'm not sure either way it's worth some of the comments
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  on the cabal in the last day or so.
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  Oh no, the, you know, there has obviously been a lot of
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  overboard and we might get into a little bit of that and right,
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  let's bring it up here for ourselves.
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  And obviously our YouTube watchers go to YouTube if you'd
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  like to see our smiling faces and some of the images.
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  It's not. It's not essential.
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  We still do it like the old podcast.
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  But but yeah, you get to see us and some people like to get to
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  consume on YouTube. So we'd like to satisfy that
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  part of the market, hey. And.
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  Get my daughter to make a ballot.
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  If I can put it behind me here saying join our Patreon, it's
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  great value. Oh, there you go.
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  Yeah, my wife on the front of the episode saying, you know,
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  join our Patreon and we'll have your daughter making banners.
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  Come on now, step up to the plate.
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  Sad, lonely. Malcolm sat and he's flat, just
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  playing with himself. And I mean, it's toys.
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  He's so nice and afraid. Oh man, no.
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  Your neighbors downstairs sounded quite lively earlier.
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  Malma, get him to get involved? Not in that sort of.
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  That sounds really good, isn't it?
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  I don't know. It'd be like I join our Patreon,
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  but that's not really worth it. Don't bother, you still get the.
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  Everybody you want to listen to, just listen through the way of
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  the wall. If you want to hear me, don't.
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  There you go. If you don't want to join our
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  Patreon, just bug Malcolm's house and.
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  Right. It's not so interesting, I
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  promise. Here's what we got revealed and
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  oh, I never corrected the date on this picture.
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  I should have. Uh, so it is the 22nd of April.
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  UH 2024. So next Monday after you listen
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  to this, hopefully Friday, Saturday or Sunday.
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  UH Although judging from analytics, nobody listens.
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  Sir Domino's to podcast on Sunday early.
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  There you go. They're all a little bit behind
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  the scenes for you maybe. Or maybe that's just the natural
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  dip, you know, two days after you're releasing episodes, the
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  dip and then it goes back up again.
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  And so, uh, we have a bunch of figures that have been
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  previously released. So that was already fit in what
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  we were talking about a little bit.
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  And they are not All Stars thing threw us off last week and
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  actually really made it more difficult to record.
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  It should have been because we were very much in the zone and
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  then we plowed ahead and I think we got through it.
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  And uh, we did quite well because uh, we'll talk about the
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  specific figures, uh, uh, or at least the ones that we'd find
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  interesting. But first I wanted to bring up
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  this Nostradamus Jones. Here's all the ones that you got
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  right. I'd appreciate the lottery
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  numbers. I'm not a gambling man, but you
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  know, if you told me the right lottery numbers, I'd be willing
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  to put a few quid that direction.
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  So you got. My that Blue Man trumpet, too,
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  if I'd realized there's going to be no alumni and it had to go
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  even more. There's your trumpet, That's
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  true. And we I have.
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  I also have the ones that you didn't or that you that you
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  guessed but didn't get right, which are some cool figures too.
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  But 23 out of 36, I mean that that is a very good hit ratio
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  considering the amount of figures in the line and and what
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  was your logic just for for the listeners again in picking them?
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  So mine was stuff from Soul Spiller backwards.
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  So older stuff. It had to be stuff that hadn't
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  been winning All Star before except for the five of them I
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  once, and it was generally things I didn't think would get
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  a two point O version made on. Yeah, so yeah, so a bunch of
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  some of them, even in the right squares, which was amazing.
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  Back see, Brother Mandibulus is right there in the right square.
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  Look at that. Who else have we got in the
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  right square? Karpetius.
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  He's in the right square. You got to get the vampire in
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  the right square. The shadow of.
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  Shadow of Warrior? No, he doesn't have that.
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  The Ranger, the right Ranger. Yes, yeah.
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  And I think the terrace is in the right place as well.
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  Look at that. The accursed hacknam's in the
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  right place. Phrase in the right places.
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  Yeah, I found it interesting. So somebody did uh question why
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  they were doing uh the doing another haagnon uh because these
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  are a mixture of warehouse finds and umm then actually a run of
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  figures that they did uh to re release and it turns out haagnon
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  was one of the ones that they reran.
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  It's not a warehouse find uh and with the blue haagnon and then
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  Jeremy actually replied to that person saying that they actually
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  had planned this little rerun before the blue haagnon thing
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  became a thing. So that's how long back they had
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  planned this. I don't think the mystery box
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  element maybe was planned that far back I would say, but uh,
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  I'm not uh, you know, I could be told I'm wrong there.
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  So umm, but it doesn't seem to me uh that it would be uh.
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  And here Rich, is the ones that you guessed that we didn't get.
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  Umm, so there was 5 alumni. So that's I think fair enough,
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  no? Yep, Yep.
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  Umm, let's talk about the ones that wouldn't be alumni.
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  So Galleron, that would have been a.
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  Nice galleron, isn't it? Yeah, that would have been one I
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  think to rerun that they would have.
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  Now maybe in the All Star Zoltes he wasn't, uh, as popular when
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  they decided to do this. But at the same time, if you're
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  talking about the mystery box thing, uh, it doesn't really
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  matter, does it? No.
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  And a nice easy part, you know, it's old parts.
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  Just an easy paint, you know, Nice paint, but easy paint.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I'm so surprised that
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  one was annoying. There.
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  Do you know the Crusher? This this has got to be when we
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  get a two point O version of her.
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  Yeah. I think we get a 1.0 size.
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  Do you know? Do you reckon that'd be cool?
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  That would be incredible. Lucretia must be getting a
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  version two of. Her must be.
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  Yeah, I'm. I mean, I'm surprised.
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  I think the original Lucretia is actually a really good figure,
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  so I'd be surprised if a 2.0, But I can't think of any other
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  reason why she's lying there. A version 2.
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  Rich. Now come on, sorry.
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  We have, we have pedants in the listenership.
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  Normally it's me, in fairness, so yeah.
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  Yeah, I was going to say and and among the hosts, Halmer Golden
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  Tooth don't see him getting a version 2, but well.
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  No, I wouldn't have said so. But then if he's not in this,
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  you know what are the chances they're going to have to re
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  release him? Urku I would have said that
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  maybe this was around the time the tactics figures were getting
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  produced and therefore they the Green Orcs was kind of ticked
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  the box. Yeah, Malachi.
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  Who's been up for the who's been up for an All Star before hasn't
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  he? So I pretty mean he just did
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  really badly in that. So the light will was not the
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  demand for. That Malachi cinderhorn would
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  have been the sweet one, I think.
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  Yeah, again, I'll be surprised if you got two point version two
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  of him, but you never know now. There you go.
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  And Faustia. Thank God Faustia wasn't.
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  I'm so relieved to be wrong on that one.
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  The red shield soldier Red shield soldier seems to be OK.
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  Most people are like him, but there is people that don't like
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  him because of the slim torso and the massive helmet.
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  And I must admit, I'm not super fussed by Yeah, yeah, I forgot
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  him. I wouldn't mind, but wouldn't
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  necessarily pick him, you know. Yeah, he goes for a price that
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  goes for around. About $100 at the moment, so.
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  I'd love. I'd love.
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  I like the figure. But I do think a shiny or silver
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  would be cool. Or a gold version of the be good
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  or bronzers, I don't know. That would have been sweet.
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  Little repaint the Sr. gallery on colors.
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  Red Shield Soldier, that would. Be cool, Yeah.
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  So these are the ones. Thought not being picked as well
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  that that must mean we're getting a 2.0.
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  Version two. Yeah, yeah version.
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  Sorry. Oh my goodness.
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  Mate, yeah, you've been drinking 2.0 beer.
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  I've had, I've. Had beers and I get over the
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  fish tanks. Dresser.
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  Bear with me, listeners. Bear with the viewers.
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  Bear with. Me.
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  All good, All good and good. So then we have the ones that
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  you didn't pick that came up and we can maybe quickly go through
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  them. So thank you, Joe.
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  Well, to be honest, I had it for last week and I thought I
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  couldn't think of anything more funnier, so just left it.
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  And Shadow Elf Soldier, is it that.
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  I suppose you were just thinking, if they're going to do
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  the Shadow of Ranger, they probably won't do this guy.
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  That was my thinking. Yeah, it was one or the other.
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  And the Rangers call the figure. And I think one of them is a
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  warehouse find as far as I believe.
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  Yeah. So.
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  I think it's that's a soldier. I think if I remember right, at
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  least the warehouse and thump, yeah.
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  Yeah. Again, he's a new figure.
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  So I think he was just outside the timeline.
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  I was looking at sort of things that way.
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  Same little organ. Look at our little picture.
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  It's the other one. It's the shadow Elf Rangers The
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  warehouse find. Oh.
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  There you go. Yeah, yeah, I'll just put that
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  up quickly. These are the.
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  We'll get to these, but these are the rerun ones.
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  So the Shadow Elf Ranger is the. Oh no, they're both.
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  No, they're both. Yeah.
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  Oh, they're both on the rerun. There you go.
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  Was that because of Manisha? Cinderhorn?
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  Maybe and. It's been so long since we had
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  the Shadow Elves too, but they need to come back.
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  And Elf Ranger, yeah, that's a great, that's a great one that
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  they did again. Yeah, he wasn't on my little one
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  side, the Shadow Elf Ranger, but yes, it's a great figure.
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  So, Godfrey, I don't know why anyone wouldn't just go and
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  order Sir Elijah or in wait. That's why it wasn't on my list.
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  It's like it's just a gold Templar with a plume.
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  To to be honest, for me it's just a piece of bio card and the
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  Templar Legion builder, you know, Now I know some people are
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  very particular about this thing and absolutely I think that's
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  good on you, you know, But that seems to be the reason and OK,
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  why not, you know? And again, who knows at what
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  stage they were at when they decided to rerun this.
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  But I think for completist there might be a lot of people that
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  are completist that maybe. But then for a completist the
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  mystery box thing is an absolute torture.
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  Grisha, why didn't you have Grisha?
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  Because Grisha keeps getting goes up for All Star never gets
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  anywhere near it. So I was like, no, it's just OK.
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  It's just not the appeal there. It's funny, isn't it?
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  Because I think he is a warehouse find and yet he's an
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  exceptional figure. Oh, I love it.
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  I agree. One of you like him?
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  Yeah, really great figure. But they just, again, the All
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  Stars. I'm not sure because it's a 2.0
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  build. Got it.
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  Right around that time that people weren't voting Grisha.
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  But yeah, it's a great figure. Yeah, he is a warehouse find, so
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  it'll be unlikely to get him. If you were really in for for
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  Grisha, I mean, you could, but the odds are lower.
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  Frost Bow failing. Frost Bow again, I think that's
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  a warehouse fine. So there's no point in really
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  talking about that. Gonks, that's another no.
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  That is a rerun. So that's interesting.
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  That's a great paint job and we're always in the customizer
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  bubble. If you're not a customizer, this
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  is like, how could someone do a paint job like that?
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  It's literally that kind of a paint job.
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  So I completely understand the appeal of this figure
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  standalone. You know if you'd look at him
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  and the Goblin Deluxe Legion Builder which is a similar build
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  now, slightly different Baldrins and few things but the paint job
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  on this guy would blow your socks compared to the Yeah, he's
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  also Legion builder so I can totally understand and I love
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  him as well and I'm a customizer and I still go wow, I love that
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  Rusty from the factory paint job and if you if you have two of
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  him. They're both going to be
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  slightly different, which is sweet because it's still a
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  class. You know it still works.
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  And as a spirit Bender. So again, one that they she
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  wanted, no, this is a warehouse. Fine, so the fine.
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  Yeah, yeah, it was between her and Balaam.
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  And I was always going to put Balaam in because he's one of my
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  favorite figures, so. Yeah, he got us.
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  We can ship as well to skip as well because that was a
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  warehouse find and I kind of that.
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  Figure bugs me because why I really would love an eagle.
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  But that Paint app is horrible and nothing against the fact
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  that it's like US sort of tribute kind of thing.
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  It's but it's it's far more garish and horrible than any
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  Masters tribute. It's horrendous.
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  Yeah, I don't really consider it a legion.
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  A mythic legions figure as such for me.
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  No. And the wings.
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  I mean, unless you desperately want to go miracle and you know
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  you're not going to display those wings, are you not?
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  Particularly, umm, Red Shield soldiers when they did do a
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  rerun of and there is. Really surprised by this one he
• 21:24
  he didn't get much longer time but he goes for a decent price
• 21:28
  like see why that would generate.
• 21:29
  Yeah, I think it's a lot of chatter regularly.
• 21:32
  People go he's a good one or we shout him and that sort of.
• 21:35
  Thing. Yeah, And then Ragnar and the
• 21:37
  Vampire Knight are their warehouse fines.
• 21:41
  So, OK, fair enough. Reagan had to be.
• 21:44
  There's no way they'd remade. Ragnar, I love her.
• 21:47
  I think she's a great little figure.
• 21:51
  Even Eric doesn't like her Melanie Sculpt.
• 21:53
  I know. Jim has Jim has on multiple
• 21:57
  occasions said it's his favorite figure.
• 21:59
  Jim Brazil see from Oh, really so.
• 22:01
  I've not heard that, OK? Yeah, So she's great.
• 22:04
  She's it's it's just what you're into, you know, I don't think as
• 22:09
  a figure, I don't, I don't think it's a figure.
• 22:13
  She's particularly bad, but it's just the concept of a female
• 22:18
  dwarf compared to the Tupac female dwarf, It's clearly the
• 22:22
  Tupac female dwarf is better from my opinion.
• 22:27
  Maybe, you know, a shorter female character on the slim
• 22:32
  body. Cool.
• 22:33
  You know, and she could have probably done with an unhelmeted
• 22:37
  head to to elevate the character element right Then this uh, now
• 22:47
  who who cares? In one way, I don't care really
• 22:49
  about all the drama on the mythic Allegiance cabal and the
• 22:52
  groups because it's, you know, I can scroll past it.
• 22:57
  If I was the Jeremy and I'm the man marketing manager or you
• 23:01
  know, the people involved, I'd hate to see all that drama.
• 23:05
  So I think they missed a little trick on the original Rice dream
• 23:08
  of not revealing these. Now whether that was an
• 23:11
  oversight or whether that was just, you know, they didn't
• 23:14
  intend on and then with all the moaning, they decided to just
• 23:19
  snip it in the bud. I don't know.
• 23:21
  But for me, this would have been better if they had said here's
• 23:25
  the ones you have more chance of getting.
• 23:28
  Well, I said to you. Guys, didn't I suggested this is
• 23:30
  a topic for tonight? It was like, let's guess which
• 23:32
  ones they made you, because people are going to want to know
• 23:35
  that, so. Yeah, and these are all bangers.
• 23:38
  Like you know, yeah, if if I said to you there's a new
• 23:45
  pre-order, not even an in stock going up and it's these guys
• 23:51
  would have been a brilliant reception, I don't think there'd
• 23:55
  be any complaining. That piece of Sunday's always
• 23:58
  going to complain. Sure, the big.
• 24:00
  Complaints, yeah, but you wouldn't have to order it, you
• 24:04
  know, You know, again, none of these, but you would find 5 or 6
• 24:08
  figures here that everyone would want.
• 24:12
  And even the people that are in it for the long time, they would
• 24:15
  have been able to get multiples of cool bills.
• 24:19
  And there's multiple figures here that even if you've got
• 24:23
  them, it's that it wouldn't be bad to have a second one of them
• 24:26
  for parts or for, you know, whatever reason you want it for,
• 24:30
  really. Yeah.
• 24:33
  Now I understand in the back end there's practicalities for Four
• 24:36
  Horsemen about this. So you know and certainly to
• 24:40
  have an in stop drop of this amount of figures and satisfy
• 24:43
  the the the market's probably not going to happen and which is
• 24:47
  why the mystery box takes a bit of some of that pain away.
• 24:50
  But I think it introduces other paints for them in terms of
• 24:55
  customer service and people being upset with what they got.
• 24:58
  Even if. Because I think even if people
• 25:02
  are cooled down with the blind box because they still think
• 25:05
  they're going to get one of the ones they want.
• 25:07
  And then when they get the figure and then it's easy to
• 25:10
  say, OK, you can go and trade it for some other.
• 25:11
  But I'm sorry, if someone gets a good door, they're not going to
• 25:15
  trade it for a Godfrey. Really.
• 25:18
  This is very unlikely, you know? Or a hagnon, you know.
• 25:21
  If somebody gets OK door and they don't want it, it's going
• 25:24
  to be going up for sale for $150.00 Yeah, let's be honest.
• 25:28
  Yeah, that's the thing. So that's the shame of this for
• 25:34
  me. And I understand that you're a
• 25:37
  new collector and you can instantly get figures into your
• 25:40
  collection, but at the same time you don't know which ones.
• 25:44
  And OK, everything is a win. Win, sure, but we still all have
• 25:47
  preferences. I know you can trade it.
• 25:49
  OK, maybe if you live in America and not to sound like the money
• 25:52
  international, but there isn't as big a market for here.
• 25:56
  And paying. I don't want to pay customs on 2
• 26:00
  figures. I don't know what they're.
• 26:02
  Yeah, you know. So that's why now I only need
• 26:07
  one. If I was a completist, I only
• 26:08
  really need one figure. This, which is Kador.
• 26:11
  Nobody has him. Hardly.
• 26:13
  And Godfrey couldn't care. You know, I do need him as well.
• 26:18
  But like, I could put a red plume on one of my templars and
• 26:22
  pretend to have him. And igalas, as I said, don't
• 26:27
  have him but don't care. So you guys, what do you think?
• 26:34
  Got rich. I think this is really
• 26:36
  interesting. The choices they make here, with
• 26:38
  the making more of them. I mean, if they've made more of
• 26:42
  these, it means that there's not a version 2 coming of any of
• 26:44
  these. I think we've discussed Brother
• 26:47
  Mandibulus before, haven't we? That how cool a figure that is.
• 26:49
  Anyway, she probably couldn't do an awful lot to improve that.
• 26:53
  Cador's not a big enough character.
• 26:55
  Godfrey's certainly not a big enough character.
• 26:58
  I'm slightly surprised with Snag.
• 26:59
  I could imagine the 2.0 of Snag. Sorry, version two of Snag, I
• 27:04
  have to admit, but it's a really good set of figures.
• 27:07
  Faunus is a fabulous figure. That in itself almost made me
• 27:11
  think, well, maybe I could go for it, I guess, to get another
• 27:15
  fauna. She's such a cool figure and I
• 27:17
  do regress on my Zaria, so she's an excellent one as well.
• 27:19
  Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I I, I was
• 27:24
  like you a little bit drawn my initial thoughts, well, this is
• 27:27
  excellent for new people, even new international people.
• 27:30
  Anyone new to the line who hasn't had the opportunity for
• 27:33
  these, go for it. Excellent.
• 27:36
  You'll get whatever you get. It's a winner, even warehouse
• 27:39
  fines, whatever, you know. But then for us older, older
• 27:43
  collectors, the people who've been in the line a bit longer,
• 27:47
  more so the international people, it's perhaps going to be
• 27:51
  too much of A gamble that you'll get something you've already
• 27:55
  got. And as you say the, the trade,
• 28:02
  you know, so in the States, yeah, go for it.
• 28:04
  Flat rate shipping, buy a load you can trade, there's a good
• 28:08
  trading sort of and they're only, you know, state to state
• 28:12
  for whatever. So the cost of postage won't be
• 28:15
  that much more for us. It starts to become difficult.
• 28:19
  It's well if if the minute we're trading with someone else in
• 28:22
  another part of Europe, there's quite an additional cost to
• 28:25
  that. So it's within England for Rich
• 28:28
  and myself. And yes, there are people and
• 28:32
  there's more people coming in and we're starting to see that
• 28:35
  UK group starting to get quite active.
• 28:37
  But are they going to have what we need?
• 28:42
  And then you're getting on to, well, I'm just selling it to
• 28:44
  them and then the cost goes up because of the read, the postage
• 28:50
  and the potential. You'll end up having to sell it
• 28:53
  for 60 lbs, say, you know. Thus, yeah, one figure.
• 28:59
  Just touch and then look at what's available.
• 29:04
  And as much as I'm one of the people who've been here in a
• 29:06
  while, I did a few sort of very rough.
• 29:08
  And it's not 100% right because you'd really need to know
• 29:11
  quantities of each figure. There's something like a 40%
• 29:14
  chance from the whole thing of me getting something I don't
• 29:18
  have, that's don't have. There's a difference in terms of
• 29:22
  what I would really, really like.
• 29:24
  And then you look at these reissued ones that there's more
• 29:27
  chance of getting. And actually 50% of these I
• 29:32
  need, you know, I don't have and a good few of them, at least two
• 29:36
  or three of the ones I don't have I would really like.
• 29:40
  And then, as I say, even the ones I've got, there's 234 that
• 29:46
  I'd be really, I'd be, I'd be fine with getting a duplicate
• 29:49
  because, you know, Kador, the one I've got is a bit smoky.
• 29:58
  Yeah. What's the gladiator chap?
• 30:00
  You don't get many of the dark skin tone figures, so it'd be
• 30:05
  great. Who doesn't want, you know,
• 30:10
  another fury or that's not bad, you know?
• 30:13
  Oh yeah. I mean, very cool figure.
• 30:15
  I'll be clear. So I've been in the community a
• 30:17
  long time. We have a podcast with say this
• 30:19
  is episode 62. Now I've had loads of good
• 30:24
  people in America reach out to me with put a couple of comments
• 30:27
  on that you know, but it's not great for you.
• 30:30
  We'll so we can we can tip by figures for you and you know
• 30:33
  sort it out, give it to your Legionscon, ship it over, you
• 30:37
  know with the lower a lower customs declaration, blah blah
• 30:41
  blah. And that's brilliant.
• 30:44
  But I don't want it enough to be bothering with them and for me,
• 30:49
  but just to acknowledge that there is ways around it and it's
• 30:52
  cool. Now, if I'm an international
• 30:53
  that knows nobody and there's no friends in the States, that's a
• 30:59
  different story. So we look at it from that
• 31:02
  perspective. And from me, if I was in
• 31:06
  America, I might punt on a couple, probably more to just
• 31:10
  have trade base, you know maybe running the jackpot on a couple
• 31:15
  of the umm, uh, what did you, what are they called warehouse
• 31:20
  fines? Uh, but at the same time, I
• 31:23
  think these reruns are probably better than the than the factory
• 31:30
  Umm, are the warehouse fines are they uh, that's one comparison I
• 31:35
  didn't do actually. So that's interesting I think.
• 31:38
  Is there any warehouse fines if we look at the whole group here?
• 31:44
  I wouldn't mind Fallon, Frost Bow and as a spirit Bender as
• 31:48
  their house finds the vampire were.
• 31:53
  Thistle torn to certain crocodile people.
• 31:56
  The other. One the.
• 31:59
  Other vampire knight, Vampire knight, Yeah, yeah.
• 32:03
  Yeah, I like best figure on the line.
• 32:05
  By the way, Did you two piss out on my amazing joke then?
• 32:09
  Which was? You did crap, atheist.
• 32:12
  Oh no, I heard this. Oh, thanks, Malice.
• 32:15
  Even worse. I just know I heard it was
• 32:17
  rubbish. Yeah.
• 32:19
  Completely no. Sold.
• 32:20
  It for you, just a blank just blanked it.
• 32:22
  Wow. If for some people Morgel, it of
• 32:28
  course would would be a great addition to the collection and
• 32:33
  for you know, as a warehouse find for completing your
• 32:36
  skeletons. Maybe There might be people.
• 32:38
  Or, you know, she's a skeleton leader.
• 32:40
  Until Tarassus turns up, she. Is.
• 32:43
  And even if you just wanted the children Necronominus, you know
• 32:45
  there's a good chance you won't have her.
• 32:48
  Borrier and eh oh, the Queen arc says warehouse find as well.
• 32:53
  So and Freya. There's some cool warehouse
• 32:57
  finds as well. King Naglin.
• 32:59
  Yeah. Did they?
• 33:02
  Oh they ran 2 goblins. Yeah.
• 33:03
  OK, Phonus is for me. Phonus is the one if you can get
• 33:07
  a phonus. OK, let's let's be let's let's
• 33:12
  do math. Phonus Mandibulus Kador Snag Out
• 33:17
  of these reissue Chase reissued figures.
• 33:20
  I think they are the MVPS there for me and.
• 33:25
  I wouldn't mind having duplicates of them.
• 33:28
  I would prefer Zaria or Zaria and Snag are the two I would
• 33:32
  most. Because you don't.
• 33:33
  You don't have them in your collection, you see.
• 33:35
  I've got snag but he's he's got dodgy nose so it'd be quite ah,
• 33:39
  yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think with snag when sorry
• 33:43
  Rich, go. No, you guys.
• 33:46
  I think with Snag they could use because I think that face is a
• 33:49
  is a glued in piece like a you know.
• 33:52
  So I think they could just redo a different face and recolor
• 33:55
  that cap and do another goblin with the cap with a different
• 34:00
  shaped nose and, you know, different expression and that
• 34:04
  would be just one piece of tooling for them.
• 34:07
  So I think that's might be where that part goes in the future.
• 34:11
  Anyway, Rich. I was going to say if I had to
• 34:13
  pick four of these, I'd really like 8 out of my collection and
• 34:16
  BT use for multiple customs and that sort of stuff.
• 34:18
  Maybe Brother Mandibulus, Faunus Zaria and the Shadow Out Ranger.
• 34:24
  There you go. Lots of there's great.
• 34:26
  Yeah, 2.0 bodies. For rich, of course.
• 34:33
  I love my Shadow Elves. This is this is my weakness with
• 34:36
  2.0 is the Shadow Elves. They are the best looking elves
• 34:41
  and I don't have any of them, so I wouldn't mind if I got them
• 34:44
  either. You know she's.
• 34:48
  There, that's true. Yeah.
• 34:50
  So I think probably of all these, Hagman is the one that we
• 34:55
  wouldn't like to get. I I like Agnon, and you know I
• 34:59
  do and of it. But even I I must admit of
• 35:01
  everything available. I'd be quite disappointed if I
• 35:05
  got a Agnon. Oh, thank goodness.
• 35:08
  Here, you said. I've got two of them and then
• 35:11
  I've got the blue one, so you know.
• 35:14
  OK, fair. Yeah, I think we have enough
• 35:16
  agnon these days. And as Curtis Sooner chat with
• 35:21
  Curtis recently, he said he thinks the Blue 1:00 is way
• 35:25
  better than the originals. And I agree.
• 35:27
  With it. Make of that.
• 35:28
  There you go. And you've got to think very
• 35:30
  easy. If there's fourteen they made
• 35:32
  more of, then you're probably going to look at least a 5%
• 35:35
  chance of getting a Hackney on as your own figure.
• 35:40
  So it's like, you know, one in 20.
• 35:42
  It's not the end of the world, but that's still a reasonable
• 35:44
  chance of you in the net with waste of space.
• 35:51
  And OK then these are the new figures.
• 35:54
  Now for me this is the crux of of the mystery box thing is that
• 35:59
  they have a bunch of figures in the warehouse and yeah, there's
• 36:03
  people that can't get to shows and can't buy these and they
• 36:06
  obviously aren't doing online sales, but they need to clear up
• 36:10
  warehouse space. They need to get rid of these
• 36:12
  figures rather than doing an in stock sale.
• 36:16
  They put them up. So great for fans, yes, but
• 36:19
  maybe fans that don't have them are fans that want more of them.
• 36:24
  But this is also very much the mystery box thing is very much
• 36:29
  to get rid of these figures in their inventory, I think.
• 36:33
  Would we agree with that without kind of, you know, that's one of
• 36:36
  the mystery box things, you know, that's one of the reasons
• 36:38
  to run a mystery box thing as a company.
• 36:40
  Yes. Why?
• 36:42
  And there's nothing nefarious about that.
• 36:44
  That's just the facts, like. Yeah, This is why everybody does
• 36:48
  it. It's like, you know, it's like
• 36:50
  some of the mystery boxes where they're like the miniature
• 36:53
  figures and they're they're like ratioed.
• 36:55
  You know, they could just do one, one in 12, say, and
• 36:58
  everything. You get one of each thing in a
• 37:00
  case, but they never do. It's always like, no, we'll make
• 37:02
  loads and loads of other stuff to make it more, you know, more
• 37:05
  desirable, but you're going to get duplicates.
• 37:07
  And it's the same with this. It's like you know you can,
• 37:09
  there's desirable older figures, but then you might end up with
• 37:11
  Bryophytus. Well, and also excuse me.
• 37:15
  Yeah, I could. I could have picked any of
• 37:18
  these. What will wind them up?
• 37:20
  The most Bryophytis. Oh, so to be fair, the same
• 37:23
  situation. Because one thing Jeremy said
• 37:25
  about part of their thinking about doing this for the older
• 37:30
  figures, the figures they reproduced, let's call it that,
• 37:34
  forget what the term they're using is, was.
• 37:37
  Because of course, as happens if they just put them online for
• 37:40
  sale, certain more desirable ones sell out ridiculously quick
• 37:46
  and blah blah. And the same would happen with
• 37:48
  these, let's face it, the com blank on what he is.
• 37:53
  The green guy, the. The.
• 37:56
  Brave Hodges, yeah. No.
• 37:58
  Yeah, yeah, he'd still be there. Bartrick a week.
• 38:01
  No, the Bartrick. Bartrick Lord Patrick.
• 38:05
  No above both. Oh.
• 38:07
  It's. A learning guard?
• 38:09
  I guarantee that would sell out in no time.
• 38:11
  True. If they put these up ball of our
• 38:14
  probably would sell out pretty quick and.
• 38:17
  To and This is why they should have put this up in the original
• 38:21
  stream is that this is softens the blow for people in terms of
• 38:25
  mystery boxing. They know they will get one of
• 38:27
  these and they know they will get one of the others.
• 38:30
  So the and there are from the original announcement we knew we
• 38:34
  knew 1/2 of the mystery box, now we know the other half.
• 38:38
  So if you can't live with getting one of these, no matter
• 38:42
  what of the other figure you get, then you're out, you know,
• 38:44
  simple, you know, and you move on.
• 38:48
  Is that fair? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 38:50
  I mean, no. My look, I'd get hacked on an
• 38:52
  ASA. You know, I.
• 38:55
  Was I was going to? Need my head?
• 38:58
  Against the wall. What What is the Yeah.
• 39:02
  What is the mother lode of done this that you don't want to get?
• 39:08
  That would be the most possible combination for me.
• 39:10
  Yeah, Hagman and and which one Isa?
• 39:13
  Isa that banana. Yeah, top row or scaphoid for me
• 39:19
  because I've already got like the old one and then I got the.
• 39:22
  Old one I have about 5 that I mean I will use the parts,
• 39:28
  they're great for customs and stuff, but I certainly wouldn't
• 39:33
  need another one at this point because I've but that's because
• 39:35
  I've got them. So if you don't have 5 scaffolds
• 39:39
  in your parts bins, then go for it.
• 39:42
  He's a very cool figure, but he's not a one.
• 39:44
  I need multiples often. Yeah.
• 39:46
  So it's always rich, personal because Tibias I have a load of
• 39:52
  as well and so probably wouldn't want to get him, I think I'd
• 39:58
  have to say. Probably, and I love motu, but
• 40:03
  method or or okie Atos I think would be the ones that I feel
• 40:08
  least interested in getting to be used for them, but I have.
• 40:13
  One should be the second one for me.
• 40:15
  Yeah, I have them as as figures and that's fine.
• 40:18
  I like them as as figures in the collection, but don't need
• 40:21
  multiples of them. I really like them, so I
• 40:24
  wouldn't mind actually those two, OK?
• 40:27
  See, So that's, that's it. Everybody's different.
• 40:30
  So exactly that's it. Is.
• 40:31
  Yeah. Looking at this list.
• 40:32
  I'd love another Malafar. I need another parabolic of two
• 40:35
  at some point for a custom. I need the Krotos.
• 40:40
  You know there are figures on there I'd I'd love to have sort
• 40:42
  of thing. But yeah, if I ended up with a
• 40:43
  Kiatos or Azar just be like you know you wouldn't be able to
• 40:47
  sell either of those for for what you paid the horseman for.
• 40:50
  So. That you wouldn't be.
• 40:53
  Unless. So unless you got something you
• 40:54
  were really over the moon with from the older figures, then
• 40:57
  yeah, it would be a complete waste.
• 40:59
  Yeah, exactly. So that's it.
• 41:06
  I guess the question to ask then to you guys is, are you going to
• 41:10
  get one or two of these or? Go on, Rich.
• 41:18
  I'm going to say no, I am a I'm an impulse buyer.
• 41:25
  I think it's fair to say so I am very tempted.
• 41:28
  But the two figures is what, $75.00?
• 41:31
  The shipping to the UK is going to be $40, probably the two
• 41:35
  figures. It tends to be the same for two
• 41:37
  or four, so that's $115.00 you now you won't get import duty
• 41:43
  for that. You'll get an import duty but
• 41:45
  that's you know that's £100 but two figures you might not want
• 41:49
  and you might not be able to sell for what you paid for.
• 41:51
  And then if you go up and go for two mystery boxes, so four
• 41:54
  figures, then all of a sudden you're getting hit with import
• 41:56
  duties and it's another $40 on top again and it's it's just not
• 42:00
  worth the risk. If these if they have some of
• 42:04
  these leftover at legions con then I'd pick some up, but no,
• 42:09
  for a mystery box it's just not worth the risk.
• 42:12
  And. And that's what they'll never
• 42:14
  say. And I suppose that's fair
• 42:15
  enough, but especially because that would affect the sales of
• 42:20
  this particular sale. So you know, they're business
• 42:23
  people after all, but I would expect some of these might
• 42:27
  eventually turn up at shows. Yeah, one of the posts, somebody
• 42:32
  asked will these be Allegiance Call?
• 42:35
  And Jeremy responded and said there's no guarantees.
• 42:38
  Yeah. OK.
• 42:38
  So so that doesn't say there isn't, you know, if you're if
• 42:42
  you're if you're into politics at all, you know that kind of an
• 42:46
  answer means. Well, he can't say yes and he
• 42:49
  can't say no, can he? Because he says yes and they're
• 42:52
  they're not. He gets it in the neck if he
• 42:54
  says I. Understand.
• 42:55
  But he could say. He could say absolutely no,
• 42:59
  yeah, you know, he should have said.
• 43:00
  He should have said. Hopefully no, because that means
• 43:02
  a blind box sales going around. Ready.
• 43:04
  There you go. Yeah.
• 43:05
  Yeah. You know, which I think it will
• 43:06
  to be fair. True.
• 43:08
  And if this I hope they sell out and then it's over and done, we
• 43:11
  move on to the next thing because the next thing is going
• 43:13
  to be for me for sure, umm, but you know if they don't sell out,
• 43:18
  you know another option for them is to give them to the
• 43:20
  retailers, you know uh be it a big bad or smaller retailer or
• 43:26
  spread them out among the retailers depending and and
• 43:30
  people can get them that way, you know.
• 43:34
  For me it yeah it's going to come down to the postage cost
• 43:37
  because as Rich says going beyond one it's stops.
• 43:43
  It's going to go to a point it's too expensive to to make it
• 43:48
  worthwhile. So I'll see what the postage is
• 43:50
  on one I'll make a decision. But realistically being sensible
• 43:55
  with my finances I've I've bought a lot of stuff this well
• 44:00
  that's not true. A lot of stuff is of pre-orders.
• 44:03
  I've come in this month and I have ended up already spending a
• 44:06
  lot of money, so it might be a blessing in disguise that I
• 44:10
  don't do this and then I've got money for the next thing.
• 44:15
  I I keep reminding myself how many figures I've got upstairs
• 44:17
  that I've got for customs that I haven't put, haven't put
• 44:21
  together to make the custom. Yeah, and it's like, that's
• 44:23
  enough to keep me going till Legion's gone.
• 44:24
  Easy. Oh.
• 44:25
  Yeah. And then if these are there then
• 44:27
  you can get. It.
• 44:28
  So, yeah. So question for you before we
• 44:32
  stop on these particular figures, this reissued chase
• 44:37
  figures here that they have. So the ones they reproduced, the
• 44:41
  current retailer appreciation wave, would you prefer to be
• 44:44
  this or what it actually is? This in heartbeat.
• 44:50
  As a mythics fan, I guess that's a tough one, isn't it?
• 44:54
  That's a tough one because I really, really like that fish or
• 44:57
  rice. Yes, at the minute I said that I
• 45:00
  could see your face, but then we wouldn't get fisheries.
• 45:04
  So yeah, I think he is outstanding, but he's a cosmic,
• 45:09
  so, you know, maybe there's a lot of terrorize.
• 45:11
  Somewhere else, yeah. Yeah, I'm a bit a little column,
• 45:16
  A little column. BI really like the Mali and the
• 45:20
  Monkey King. The Vike, Skeleton Vike and Fell
• 45:24
  Warrior. I'd prefer one of these to that,
• 45:27
  yeah, Yeah. Yeah, I'd, I'd prefer this in a
• 45:31
  heartbeat. No, that that's not to say of
• 45:35
  all the complications and logistics behind the scenes that
• 45:38
  the Four Horsemen would have to do as a manufacturer and all
• 45:41
  that. So I don't care about that.
• 45:45
  That's their problem and obviously they're not doing it
• 45:47
  that way. So it's obviously something that
• 45:49
  they decided against, but just from a fan point of view, you
• 45:54
  know it's interesting to see would you prefer this as the
• 45:56
  retailer appreciation wave or what we got, that's an
• 46:00
  interesting one. Yeah, that's an interesting
• 46:03
  anyone who listens or whatever, be interested in your thoughts.
• 46:07
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 46:08
  Because we're sitting here, you, me, John saying I'd much prefer
• 46:10
  this, but then the Force might be thinking, well that would
• 46:13
  just be another All Star wave, which is our least popular
• 46:15
  seller. So we don't want to give that to
• 46:17
  the resellers and then they end up sitting on stock that doesn't
• 46:20
  go. Yeah.
• 46:21
  But they could also, they also outsource the risk to the
• 46:25
  retailer and the retailers don't have, the retailers don't have a
• 46:28
  risk either in that they have the preorder window that they
• 46:32
  put it up for. And the retailer's risk is what
• 46:36
  do they think after looking at the amount of figures that
• 46:40
  people order off them. So say out of this bunch, right.
• 46:44
  Say they get 20% of their total lawyers or fewer Yorks.
• 46:50
  OK. Out of all these figures as a
• 46:52
  retailer, what are you going to do?
• 46:54
  Well you're going to maybe bump another 10% of few York's into
• 46:57
  your order aren't you? It's not even a risk you know
• 47:01
  for a retailer if you're smart. So I don't I now are you telling
• 47:07
  me these wouldn't sell more than you know you've got what is it
• 47:11
  UH-14 figures here that a retailer can make their mark
• 47:16
  upon and they can put them up for a month to get preorders to
• 47:21
  get an idea of what the market is for them?
• 47:23
  There's multiple legion builders here as well, not legal
• 47:27
  builders. Army builders anyway, you know.
• 47:32
  And again, as I say, I'm saying this purely as a idealist.
• 47:37
  And you know what I'd like? But very interesting to hear
• 47:42
  what other people would like. And obviously these are not real
• 47:46
  scenarios, but these are scenarios that could have
• 47:48
  happened, you know, in another if further choices were made.
• 47:53
  Just interesting to see what people prefer.
• 47:55
  And if they sell out of the blind boxes, maybe it doesn't
• 47:58
  matter what whether people would have preferred one or the other,
• 48:01
  they still sold them. We move on to the next thing.
• 48:03
  And I guarantee you the next thing is probably going to be so
• 48:06
  awesome that we won't even remember this.
• 48:07
  The only reason we'll remember is because we did an episode on
• 48:09
  that. That's the thing, isn't it?
• 48:11
  It's a case of do you spend the money now and get something hand
• 48:14
  in hand which you may or may not want, or did you save the money
• 48:16
  and go well? It'd be a really cool pre-order
• 48:18
  of something brand new in a month's time.
• 48:20
  And yes, I'll have to wait to get it, but I can spend the
• 48:23
  money there, yeah. So one other thing, right?
• 48:28
  I just wanted to talk about this, so I googled What's the
• 48:31
  pros and cons of blind boxes? Came on this site.
• 48:37
  It's called. Wow.
• 48:41
  Well it's well if you do your own research when someone else
• 48:43
  has done it for you. So this is big brand wholesale
• 48:46
  Michigan company. They used to do loads of blind
• 48:48
  boxes. So the first Pro is a fantastic
• 48:50
  way to liquidize merchandise. Being a slow seller, slow seller
• 48:53
  doesn't mean bad or junk, you know, whatever.
• 48:56
  OK uh, a lot of these, uh doesn't really apply to legions.
• 49:03
  Uh, people love variety. Sure.
• 49:06
  You know, people are often indecisive, so they'd like
• 49:08
  someone else to make the choice. Yeah.
• 49:10
  If you were a new collector, you wouldn't maybe know which one,
• 49:12
  you know. And that's interesting.
• 49:14
  People love mysteries and surprises.
• 49:16
  Yeah, people love the buzz from it, you know, And this is, for
• 49:19
  me, a plus or a minus, because if you are a impulsive, maybe,
• 49:23
  eh, very addictive person, this could be something you might
• 49:27
  overstretch yourself on, you know?
• 49:28
  So because you want to get that buzz from the mystery box, now
• 49:32
  thankfully does it. Thankfully there is a mostly
• 49:38
  good secondary market, so if you realize you've overstretched
• 49:41
  yourself, you'd probably be able to get most of your money back.
• 49:44
  Whereas maybe on other types of mystery boxes where you get lots
• 49:47
  of Tash might not be the case. Cons.
• 49:50
  So, and this is all that this is looking from the perspective of
• 49:54
  the company. So it doesn't matter how many
• 49:58
  post photos you post. People will look at the photos,
• 50:01
  see specific items they want and plan on getting them.
• 50:04
  When the item doesn't arrive, they're livid.
• 50:06
  There you go. So there will be a certain court
• 50:08
  people, as I said, you know the first, your version of this is a
• 50:13
  stellar mystery box is going to be different than the buyer's
• 50:16
  opinion. OK.
• 50:17
  And it doesn't, the facts almost don't matter here.
• 50:20
  It's what the customer thinks. Isn't this the customer always
• 50:24
  right thing, you know. So they will have a little bit
• 50:28
  of customer service, customer perception thing just from this
• 50:33
  whole mystery box process because it is something that
• 50:37
  tends to polarize people in different directions, you know.
• 50:42
  So it is a risk for them just doing it from that perspective,
• 50:46
  you know? Yeah, I think based on the
• 50:50
  feedback we've seen on the Cabal, some people clearly are
• 50:52
  very angry about it. Yeah, and don't appreciate.
• 50:55
  And so people are already like. You're going to favor this
• 50:59
  person and that person? Oh yeah, seriously.
• 51:03
  The first like the first, umm fairly high profile either like
• 51:09
  you know someone that's on a YouTube show or somebody that's
• 51:12
  a very well known customers that that gets one of the rare cases
• 51:17
  is there is going to be a code people that go favoritism.
• 51:20
  So that sucks for the horsemen and sucks for, you know, the
• 51:24
  community in general, because I'm sure, yeah, they they won't
• 51:29
  do that. But it's what the Horsemen
• 51:31
  people will think. What the Horsemen need to do,
• 51:33
  and here's my old man Kyle, here's a Run your business
• 51:37
  speech, is get the staff who are picking the figures, Blindfold
• 51:42
  them. Just push them towards a big
• 51:45
  pile of mixed up boxes. They pick 1-2 wherever many
• 51:49
  persons bought, hand them somebody else, and then packs
• 51:51
  them up and film yourself doing it.
• 51:53
  So there's no chance of bias where it's like, look, here we
• 51:56
  are, here's our blindfold pickers.
• 51:57
  There's no cheating going on here.
• 51:59
  This will just end up with whoever ends up with.
• 52:01
  You imagine, like, how long it takes to ship all that stuff.
• 52:05
  Oh my God, we'll do that for you.
• 52:06
  It's the middle of connection. And here's the last one.
• 52:12
  And this is this is a good one as well.
• 52:14
  No matter how many times you tell them it's a mystery box,
• 52:17
  they truly do not understand. Because reality is how can you
• 52:22
  understand a mystery? Think about that.
• 52:28
  So there you go. I didn't.
• 52:30
  I thought that was a fair way of maybe talking about it and maybe
• 52:34
  are an unbiased way, at least from company.
• 52:38
  So good luck to them. I hope they sell it.
• 52:40
  And shall we move on from that. We have an awesome listener
• 52:44
  question to deal with. Let me just pitch you one more,
• 52:47
  John, before you. Sure.
• 52:49
  I would just say my final two penneth on this is if you're a
• 52:52
  new collector, be it in the US or in Europe because you always
• 52:56
  pay more in Europe or the rest of the world.
• 52:58
  This is all singing or dancing, a brilliant, brilliant thing for
• 53:01
  you. If you're in America and you've
• 53:04
  been a collector for a bit longer than the the $10 flat
• 53:07
  rate shipping makes it worthwhile with the trades,
• 53:10
  whatever, whatever. If you're not, you know if
• 53:13
  you're not a customizer in America, then you probably
• 53:15
  won't. If you're like us, a more old
• 53:18
  time collector in in Europe, you won't.
• 53:21
  So it's very clearly. Yeah, it's very clearly.
• 53:25
  There's certain group, there's certain groups of collectors
• 53:27
  which who for this this will be incredible.
• 53:30
  For others like us it's not. But that's fine.
• 53:33
  This is the spice of life. This is variety.
• 53:35
  You know there's certain figures that you boys love for some
• 53:38
  reason noble, but that I that I'm disparaging of and this this
• 53:42
  is what makes toy collecting fun.
• 53:44
  It's just, you know, as long as people keep it respectable and
• 53:46
  don't start slandering the horsemen and that sort of stuff
• 53:48
  on the cabal, this you know at the end of the day the toys, no
• 53:51
  one's forcing you to buy anything.
• 53:52
  If you don't like it, fine. Leave it at that and.
• 53:57
  I think any time you build up the hype about something,
• 54:01
  there's going to be someone disappointed.
• 54:03
  You know, even kids, when Santa turns up and it doesn't have
• 54:07
  exactly what they want, despite the fact that Santa turned up,
• 54:10
  you know, came down the chimney, left a load of cherry.
• 54:13
  Pies for some reason. Yeah, exactly.
• 54:17
  Drank all of Dad's Sherry, you know, and and didn't leave the
• 54:22
  one small thing that you really wanted that you maybe didn't
• 54:26
  emphasize enough to mom or dad to tell Santa, Then you know,
• 54:32
  there might be a little bit of upset.
• 54:34
  And you know what? We're we're people that collect
• 54:37
  toys and we're in their 40s. We're still kids.
• 54:42
  I'll say to the horseman I don't know any of this would face
• 54:44
  them, but don't let it faze you. Let's face it, there were people
• 54:47
  that got genuinely upset when you cancelled the slightly
• 54:49
  racist horse outfit. You know, people will get angry
• 54:54
  over everything, anything and everything.
• 54:56
  Just don't worry about it. Yeah, right on for a listener
• 55:00
  question. So let's try a new little, uh,
• 55:02
  musical transition. And before YouTube strike me for
• 55:14
  that, that was me, OK, That wasn't uh anything.
• 55:17
  I copied. Uh, right.
• 55:19
  Shall we listen to, umm, well, I let him introduce himself
• 55:23
  because he's. Uh.
• 55:24
  He does that because he's uh. He knows what he said.
• 55:27
  We got an awesome listener question from one of our patrons
• 55:30
  in a voice note, so that's perfect podcast voice note.
• 55:36
  Saves us having to read it out. So even though you might like
• 55:39
  Mal to read out your question, I think it's better if we hear
• 55:42
  your voice, huh. We go for it.
• 55:46
  This is Jeremy Gove here and I've got a question for the
• 55:49
  game. Are there any rules that you
• 55:52
  guys give yourselves to help bring in the urge to collect
• 55:56
  things? Example that came up for me this
• 56:00
  weekend, Big Bad Toy Store has an absolutely beautiful 30
• 56:06
  Firefly up on sale right now and that is very tempted to drop the
• 56:11
  $100 for it. But kind of given myself the
• 56:15
  rule of only collecting 112 scale and trying to keep myself
• 56:21
  from going after those one six scale toys.
• 56:26
  And I'm really glad I did, Now that I saw that there's a going
• 56:29
  to be another 4 Horsemen sale coming up with the mysteries of
• 56:33
  Mythos and ready to make my wallet SOB.
• 56:38
  Yeah, or your hearts off, Jeremy, depending on your
• 56:40
  opinion on mystery boxes. But yeah, that's a pretty cool
• 56:44
  question and thanks very much Jeremy, for that.
• 56:47
  You've been very supportive so far and are engaging in the
• 56:51
  Discord as well. And obviously being a patron
• 56:53
  like a lot of other cool people, that's very much appreciated.
• 56:57
  So yeah, who wants to take that first?
• 57:02
  Shall I? I'll go first because I've
• 57:03
  actually had something, as I said to you when you talked
• 57:05
  about this question, it's something that's actually been
• 57:07
  on my mind quite a lot because as I said earlier, I've spent a
• 57:12
  small well, I haven't spent it this month.
• 57:14
  It's all gone out of my bank account this month because of
• 57:16
  pre-orders. And there was potentially going
• 57:19
  to be even more because of the Besco Turtle debacle that you
• 57:22
  two know about that I won't go into, but I set myself well.
• 57:32
  I originally was collecting multiple lines and there was an
• 57:36
  element of all in on some of them and picking up what I
• 57:41
  wanted from others. And then I kind of got to a
• 57:44
  point where I was thinking, well, I'm getting these and I'm
• 57:46
  not as excited. Well, it's OK.
• 57:48
  So what I would say certain other lines, IE mythics, cosmics
• 57:52
  were coming out and the horseman was saying, look, we're going to
• 57:54
  start doing more stuff, we're going to produce more.
• 57:57
  And I'm sitting there like I really, really like what they're
• 58:00
  doing and I'm excited every time I get it.
• 58:03
  And I'm not getting as excited about these figures here when
• 58:08
  they turn up as I am about these figures.
• 58:10
  You know legions make me feel like a kid again.
• 58:15
  Moto origins make me feel like a kid again.
• 58:17
  I get you know that genuine excitement when they turn up and
• 58:20
  you're opening them and you're playing with them and putting
• 58:21
  the parts together and things like GI Joe I wasn't doing
• 58:25
  they're cool and I love you know and I'm I'm getting the dread
• 58:28
  there you go I should come to and and so and Valovus they were
• 58:32
  cool. They became harder to get.
• 58:36
  So it made a decision for me, but I kind of started going,
• 58:39
  well, OK, let's start with these.
• 58:42
  I don't need to get rid of things necessarily, and if I
• 58:45
  want to, but let's stick with the origins and stick with the
• 58:50
  legions and I'll. I'm all in on them.
• 58:55
  I'm actually not all in on the origins, but mostly all in on
• 58:57
  the origins and other things. I'll pick up the odd thing here
• 59:02
  and there, and that was doing all right for about a year.
• 59:06
  The problem then, of course is the things that there's.
• 59:09
  You get the odd bit of start doing loads of really odd bits
• 59:13
  of good stuff and then new lines come along and you're like, Oh
• 59:18
  well, I could just get those couple from there.
• 59:21
  And so I've started to creep up again the things I'm getting.
• 59:26
  So I need to kind of draw back and one of the decisions behind
• 59:31
  that is space and I've got a lot of boxes in storage with stuff
• 59:36
  in them that aren't isn't on display.
• 59:38
  And if I'm buying something that's then just going to go
• 59:41
  into storage, is it worth buying?
• 59:44
  The answer to that is yes. Some of it I still do buy, but
• 59:48
  I'm trying to be more strict with it again and I need to get
• 59:51
  more strict again. I mean the turtle stuff, that's
• 59:55
  one of the things I just get the odd thing.
• 59:57
  But as everyone knows, there's so much turtle stuff coming out,
• 1:00:01
  and so much of it is good. That's a bit of a battle, but
• 1:00:05
  yeah, so. 400 Space for the Mes Mesco turtles is well, that's a
• 1:00:09
  small odd thing, isn't It's quite a big odd thing.
• 1:00:12
  Well, yeah. Well, that would have been the
• 1:00:15
  slight exception to all his eyes.
• 1:00:17
  Sure. And I was trying to think.
• 1:00:19
  I was trying to pay in installments, wasn't I?
• 1:00:22
  Which, you know, didn't work out for me anyway, but, and that's
• 1:00:26
  how I was handling that, is, it's like £100 a month rather
• 1:00:29
  than £500 or whatever it was. Yeah, Mal's.
• 1:00:32
  Mal's retailer got short stocked and Mal got screwed.
• 1:00:36
  That's what happened. Yeah, so the way if anyone has a
• 1:00:39
  set of Mexico turtles that they don't want to flip for loads of
• 1:00:44
  money on the Internet, uh, hit up.
• 1:00:46
  Now you know. Yeah, but yeah.
• 1:00:51
  He's too nice, just too nice to to.
• 1:00:54
  He'd be like, Oh no, make your make your money on eBay.
• 1:00:57
  No, no, no, no, no. It's actually the opposite.
• 1:01:00
  I'm not willing to pay more than the 500 I was going to.
• 1:01:02
  Pay. No, no, no.
• 1:01:03
  But you'd be saying to the person, Make sell it to somebody
• 1:01:06
  else. Oh yeah, sell it to me for 4:50
• 1:01:11
  or whatever. Second first, I'd be like you
• 1:01:13
  Dick. You got more than one.
• 1:01:15
  Screw you. Maybe they don't.
• 1:01:18
  I didn't get any. Maybe.
• 1:01:19
  They're like, maybe they're like or maybe they're like, oh, I got
• 1:01:21
  a car bill I need to pay, and even though I love these, I need
• 1:01:24
  to get rid of them. Well, in that case you probably
• 1:01:26
  go to eBay. Well, the other thing I'm now on
• 1:01:29
  to is that if anyone got the Mezco set and have the Fury
• 1:01:35
  toys, I think it was at the time Spring that they've decided I
• 1:01:39
  don't need this now and they want to sell me that for a
• 1:01:41
  decent price. I'll take that instead.
• 1:01:45
  Or I could trade you for I forgot what name is Hate Atlas.
• 1:01:53
  Sorry Rich, I'm giving away rather than selling it to you.
• 1:01:57
  Hate Atlas? Juno Attila.
• 1:02:00
  Juno. Yeah, If anyone wants to trade
• 1:02:03
  the spring for a Juno, I'd do that.
• 1:02:06
  There we go. So anyway, yes.
• 1:02:09
  So yeah, in short space, how much it excites me when I open
• 1:02:14
  it, you know, new stuff, if I'm getting them and going.
• 1:02:16
  It wasn't all that. Probably just sell it on and and
• 1:02:20
  try and keep the collection down.
• 1:02:23
  Fair, fair. Rich, what you got on this?
• 1:02:27
  Unfortunately, I don't have any rules at all.
• 1:02:30
  There's a there's an amazing meme where it's it's something
• 1:02:36
  like people must think I'm really wealthy with all my toy
• 1:02:40
  collection. No, I'm just irresponsible.
• 1:02:43
  That's that's me. Basically, I have a constant
• 1:02:47
  churn in what I collect because I'll just dive into anything
• 1:02:50
  that takes my fancy, have it for six months, sometimes not even
• 1:02:54
  get out-of-the-box and then go, do you know what?
• 1:02:55
  Shit, I haven't got any room to display this or I shouldn't have
• 1:02:58
  bought this. And then I'll just sell it.
• 1:03:00
  And it's, you know, constant churn of my collection sort of
• 1:03:04
  thing. So no, I I have the main lines I
• 1:03:06
  collect and I love them and I'd like to go, yeah, do you know
• 1:03:09
  what if it's not something I've got a nostalgia feel for, I'm
• 1:03:12
  not going to do it. But that doesn't work.
• 1:03:15
  If it should be like, well, it's like super seven stuff that's
• 1:03:18
  too expensive. No, for what it is.
• 1:03:20
  No, definitely not. That doesn't work.
• 1:03:24
  It should be, well, you know, stick with the original horseman
• 1:03:26
  figures, Don't do the custom stuff that doesn't.
• 1:03:27
  You know, there's literally nothing that works for me.
• 1:03:31
  And I still find myself now looking at things like how I I
• 1:03:35
  saw the the Mezco 112 Mr. Freeze the other day and then was
• 1:03:40
  immediately Googling to see how much all the Mezco Batman stuff
• 1:03:43
  was. And it's like, what is wrong
• 1:03:44
  with you? You can get nowhere near as good
• 1:03:47
  a quality MacFarlane ones, but they're £20 rather than £100.
• 1:03:51
  I have a lot of the Mezco Batman so if you ever want one or two I
• 1:03:55
  can do your mates rates. Thank you.
• 1:03:57
  No. I'm thank you for tempting me,
• 1:03:59
  John, but no, I'm trying. No.
• 1:04:00
  Does that works? Does that work?
• 1:04:01
  Trying desperately not to. Euro enablers.
• 1:04:05
  One of the even if I give. Even if I give you one for free,
• 1:04:08
  you do go no, because then I have to get them all was.
• 1:04:11
  It one of the UK sites had the was it Batman Two Face I think
• 1:04:16
  Golden. Oh yeah.
• 1:04:20
  And it was a really fairly decent price for a Mezco pack.
• 1:04:23
  And they look amazing, was like, if I do that, I've got to get
• 1:04:26
  more of those and then it gets expensive.
• 1:04:28
  But do you need to do that? It's like the Dick.
• 1:04:31
  I've talked on the show before about the Mezco.
• 1:04:32
  Dick Tracy figures again, they look incredible, but I don't
• 1:04:36
  need to spend £100 a figure on that, will I?
• 1:04:38
  Probably yes, when they come and then and then I'll end up
• 1:04:42
  selling them at some point. Or I can sell something else
• 1:04:44
  because I shouldn't have bought those.
• 1:04:45
  And it I just got no control of it.
• 1:04:47
  It's it's it's embarrassing. Mesco are an interesting one
• 1:04:51
  because for me personally, some of what they do is OK, probably
• 1:04:57
  too expensive for the quality. Some of what they do is
• 1:05:00
  incredible. And I mean, I've got one or two
• 1:05:04
  and I pick up the odd one here and there and I've so far I'm
• 1:05:08
  very happy. I mean, the Conans were
• 1:05:10
  ridiculously good. The turtles look ridiculously
• 1:05:12
  good. That Mister Freeze is
• 1:05:14
  incredible, to be fair, But then a lot of.
• 1:05:18
  Like, OK and I because I was kind of clicked in the bit of
• 1:05:21
  Mexico when that Mister phrase was announced and I didn't go in
• 1:05:24
  on him because I decided to stick to Batman but will get to
• 1:05:27
  me. But that Mister Freeze was 2 1/2
• 1:05:30
  years, Ordinarily three I think, before it came out.
• 1:05:34
  For me, it was worth sure. But that's too long.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah, for one figure, you know? Yeah.
• 1:05:42
  Yeah, but I give you a classic example of what my collecting's
• 1:05:44
  like. When Super Seven started doing
• 1:05:47
  their ultimates and nostalgic stuff dived on the Thundercats,
• 1:05:52
  one of my favorite cartoons as a kid.
• 1:05:53
  Love the Thundercats figures. I mean, some of the paint jobs
• 1:05:56
  are awful and they're far so expensive, but I love them.
• 1:05:58
  Never get rid of those. And then they did turtles.
• 1:06:01
  And I'm like, I'll get the turtles too as well.
• 1:06:02
  I never had turtles as a kid. It was.
• 1:06:03
  It was after my childhood sort of thing.
• 1:06:05
  But I used to like the cartoon. I don't particularly like the
• 1:06:08
  neck cartoon figures. I'll get the toy ones and got
• 1:06:11
  loads and loads of those. And then a couple of months back
• 1:06:14
  suddenly went, do you know what I need to recoup some of this
• 1:06:16
  money? I I need to get rid of the
• 1:06:17
  turtle, the Super seven turtles. Fine.
• 1:06:19
  Started selling those and then was in a discount store in the
• 1:06:23
  UK not so long ago and they had the Super seven reaction turtles
• 1:06:28
  for like 6 or £7.00 a figure. And I bought a load of those and
• 1:06:30
  it's like, what are you doing? You just got rid of one super 7
• 1:06:33
  turtle stuff and then bought something else.
• 1:06:35
  And I'm probably going to sell the reaction stuff now because I
• 1:06:37
  don't need it, but there's I'm an impulse buyer and then it
• 1:06:41
  just leads to lots of trips to the post office to sell the
• 1:06:43
  stuff that I don't want anymore. So I in answers to very long
• 1:06:47
  winded answers to Jeremy's question.
• 1:06:49
  I would love to have rules that I stick to when I'm buying, but
• 1:06:52
  I don't. Even if I have them, I don't
• 1:06:54
  stick to them. Yeah.
• 1:06:57
  So there you see that the Jones 1234 is actually a self
• 1:07:03
  preservation it. Is basically.
• 1:07:05
  Yes, it's not. It saves a baby.
• 1:07:06
  It's not. Under my door it's not.
• 1:07:08
  Rich the flipper. Really.
• 1:07:10
  It is actually Rich the staying alive, you know?
• 1:07:14
  Yeah. Get rid of all my married.
• 1:07:17
  It's, yeah, it's it's basically that that ebase stuff is the the
• 1:07:21
  result of my phone. So for me, so I'll give two
• 1:07:31
  contexts first, I think when I was, you know, when I was
• 1:07:35
  growing up, we never had that much money and we weren't poor.
• 1:07:39
  You know, we always had enough to food and we had house and you
• 1:07:44
  know that was all fine. But we never had much money for
• 1:07:47
  luxuries. So there was always a choice.
• 1:07:50
  There was always like do you want that or that, You know, you
• 1:07:52
  can only get one thing or you have to wait till your birthday,
• 1:07:55
  you have to wait till Christmas. And most people had that.
• 1:07:57
  But I I think that I always kind of kept that in me.
• 1:08:01
  So even when I started working and I had disposable income and
• 1:08:04
  especially before I had children and all that kind of stuff, I
• 1:08:08
  still had that thing of denying myself stuff until, you know, a
• 1:08:12
  certain point. So say if I wanted to buy, I
• 1:08:14
  remember when I bought PlayStation two back when, you
• 1:08:16
  know, maybe after a year or two of them being out and I hadn't
• 1:08:19
  really had a console since, you know, I was you know teenager
• 1:08:23
  when I had maybe it was one of the segas, Umm.
• 1:08:28
  So I was like this would be a huge jump.
• 1:08:30
  But I still thought about it and like six months later I
• 1:08:33
  eventually bought it after going into the shop 10 times and
• 1:08:36
  looking at the different games. And even back then there was
• 1:08:40
  probably online research going on.
• 1:08:41
  So that's the kind of person I am a little bit, you know, so
• 1:08:48
  and with all sorts of techie care.
• 1:08:49
  So when it came to the toy collecting was definitely a bit
• 1:08:53
  like that for the start and and then eventually jump in you get
• 1:08:58
  some stuff and think OK that's great and you know I'll click
• 1:09:01
  that line and the other line exactly like you Malik.
• 1:09:04
  Got to the point where I was getting pre-orders certain
• 1:09:08
  amount to good band time after ordering them like I remember
• 1:09:12
  super seven uh some of the ultimate lines and going I don't
• 1:09:17
  want these you know I did want them at the point but then I was
• 1:09:22
  like OK so I sell those and I was like OK now I need to think
• 1:09:25
  and Legions was the only thing that I was getting eh on
• 1:09:29
  pre-order getting in and being like completely like blown away
• 1:09:32
  and hyped about it. So I was like, OK, that's
• 1:09:34
  something you know, and even the Masco stuff, I remember ordering
• 1:09:38
  the Masco Superman and I think it was the Christopher Reeve one
• 1:09:43
  and staying online for like 3 hours as the getting the blue
• 1:09:47
  screen of death and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:09:48
  And eventually I got like 2. So it was used on those
• 1:09:53
  exclusives. I used to get one for myself and
• 1:09:55
  then one to kind of sell because you the shipping cost was no
• 1:10:00
  different and you'd recoup a little bit of the money off it.
• 1:10:03
  And I got, you know, a couple of months later arrived and I was
• 1:10:06
  like, what was I even do and I don't even want this.
• 1:10:10
  So, so the two of them And then I was like, OK, I'm collection
• 1:10:13
  allegiance. And then the second context for
• 1:10:14
  me is around three or four years ago we had to change where my
• 1:10:19
  wife went back to work, wanted to go back to work full time.
• 1:10:22
  And then I had to make a choice about how do we do with the
• 1:10:25
  kids. And it eventually ended up and
• 1:10:27
  me being a full time parent for a certain amount of time and I
• 1:10:31
  used to collect Lego as well around that time.
• 1:10:33
  So the first thing I just instantly stopped buying all
• 1:10:36
  Lego, uh, cold Turkey. And the only thing I said was
• 1:10:40
  like, I'm fine without the money, but I want to keep
• 1:10:43
  collecting the legions. That's the only thing and and if
• 1:10:47
  I want to buy any other toys I have to sell, like this is just
• 1:10:50
  an internal rule. This wasn't like, you know,
• 1:10:53
  obviously we can we can manage on my wife's salary.
• 1:10:55
  So I could always say to her, you know, I need to use a bit of
• 1:11:00
  money to buy this if I want to and we talk about it.
• 1:11:04
  So it wasn't like a hard financial constraint.
• 1:11:08
  It was more of a this, this is sensible, you know, so that's
• 1:11:12
  generally what I do. So for example, when I got a
• 1:11:14
  couple of GI Joes recently that we when we were talking about,
• 1:11:17
  it's really cool. I sold a bunch of other old
• 1:11:19
  figures that I had to kind of fund that.
• 1:11:21
  Now it's not, you know, I don't pull out a spreadsheet and
• 1:11:25
  balance the books on it. It's an approximate thing, you
• 1:11:27
  know, but it's more of a principal thing And and then the
• 1:11:31
  stuff around it like the customizing, I've put that down
• 1:11:34
  as hobby expenditures. So if I want to buy parts or
• 1:11:37
  paints or stuff like that, I generally don't go crazy, you
• 1:11:41
  know, But I kind of spread it out and I kind of, uh, uh, you
• 1:11:46
  know, try not to impulse by. So that's kind of how I run it
• 1:11:49
  now. So the only thing I really
• 1:11:50
  collect is legions. Umm, I have that little bit of,
• 1:11:54
  uh, denying myself stuff from childhood that helps.
• 1:12:00
  And uh, of course, the thing, that financial constraint in
• 1:12:05
  that I don't have my own, eh, disposable income currently.
• 1:12:09
  So, you know, and currently I'd rather probably buy another
• 1:12:13
  fancy microphone then then, you know, start collecting a new
• 1:12:17
  line. That's just for me at the
• 1:12:18
  moment. But that's just another type of
• 1:12:22
  collecting, you know, that's unnecessary but fun, you know?
• 1:12:27
  Yeah. So I think that's how I deal
• 1:12:29
  with it. I've certainly thought I
• 1:12:31
  actually have a way that might stop myself is is just puts the
• 1:12:34
  fountain display quicker. Yeah, I had the whole DC Direct
• 1:12:39
  and Mattel classics, Black Lantern and Green Lantern waves,
• 1:12:45
  1st 6 inch figures ever collected.
• 1:12:47
  Loved them, put them out, had an entire IKEA Billy full of them.
• 1:12:51
  They were there for about two months and I was like, do you
• 1:12:53
  know what? I'm done with that now and sold
• 1:12:55
  them all and maybe that's what I need to do with other things.
• 1:13:01
  That could be it, Rich, you know.
• 1:13:03
  But I think we're here to help, you know, if you ever need to,
• 1:13:10
  if you. Need an intervention?
• 1:13:13
  Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm asking my good lady wife
• 1:13:16
  your contact details so she can just like seriously, can you
• 1:13:18
  message him? Yeah, we'll just sell them more
• 1:13:22
  stuff, you know. Well, you 2 did did threaten
• 1:13:26
  intervention with me at last Legions con, didn't you?
• 1:13:28
  It's on my left of the desk. I came, I came.
• 1:13:30
  Table. I came back with a custom or
• 1:13:32
  two. You do it.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah, Legion's gone. It's a tricky 1 because I I do
• 1:13:37
  want to constrain myself this year and that I would then I
• 1:13:42
  don't want to have to ship a box and which I think will mean that
• 1:13:47
  if I do buy some extra stuff, I'm just going to unbox it.
• 1:13:50
  I'm not going to mess around with having stuff in box
• 1:13:53
  shipping back and. You make sure you do it quietly,
• 1:13:55
  John. We don't want to be disturbed in
• 1:13:57
  the room. Yeah, I'll do it at 4:00 in the
• 1:14:01
  morning when you're a student. Bargain and malice beside me,
• 1:14:06
  snoring. You wait.
• 1:14:10
  I won't hear anything over the snoring.
• 1:14:12
  So. Exactly.
• 1:14:13
  Yeah, we can do it. However, that works.
• 1:14:16
  Or we can we can do podcasts while malice snoring challenge
• 1:14:23
  my editing skills to see can I can I filter out a snore from
• 1:14:27
  the podcast and just every swaffle faded back up?
• 1:14:31
  We'll see. We'll see what we can do to wake
• 1:14:33
  to wake mall up this year. A little competition.
• 1:14:37
  John, what can we do to wake mall up?
• 1:14:39
  At one point I'll lean over and go wakes him up.
• 1:14:46
  What if it does? What do we do then?
• 1:14:48
  That's the problem that. 'D be quite creepy, actually.
• 1:14:50
  We need to be woken up by that. Be like, what the hell.
• 1:14:54
  You know? Or what if he's like you and
• 1:14:56
  just starts punching and he sleep?
• 1:14:57
  You know, I still think this is the biggest scam ever.
• 1:15:01
  He got his own bed by by saying that he punches food and he
• 1:15:05
  sleep and he slept like a log and didn't move a muscle for the
• 1:15:09
  entire four days. I kicked my wife so hard the
• 1:15:12
  other night and was put her out of the bed, so it's still an
• 1:15:15
  issue. OK, I think we need to get her
• 1:15:17
  on the podcast to to confirm this before next legion's gone,
• 1:15:24
  right? We we're going to record a
• 1:15:28
  patron episode right now so if you want to join your Patreon
• 1:15:31
  you might get to hear that we're going to talk about all the most
• 1:15:33
  recent toy news outside of legions, umm, because that's fun
• 1:15:37
  to talk about. So I think we've done enough
• 1:15:39
  about the mysteries we haven't gone.
• 1:15:41
  I think we've I think we've been fairly fair.
• 1:15:43
  Not too hard. As I said not for me.
• 1:15:46
  I'm a long time collector. Uh, very happy.
• 1:15:49
  Uh, for other people. If anyone in Europe and maybe in
• 1:15:53
  the UK buys some and maybe doesn't want what they got and
• 1:15:57
  they can't find someone to buy it, contact us.
• 1:15:59
  We might still get it anywhere. Rich definitely will buy it
• 1:16:01
  because he can't do so. We're always here to help, you
• 1:16:07
  know, on the Irritations podcast.
• 1:16:08
  Sound good? Yeah, sounds good.
• 1:16:11
  Sounds perfect. Cheers guys, thanks for that.
• 1:16:16
  Bye, bye, everybody. Stay safe out there.
• 1:16:21
  Crack open another beer. The.