Latest / Drive with John Perlman / Durban unveiled as host city for South Africa’s Olympic bids Mbali Hlophe, Primedia Sport
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Let's talk about South Africa bidding for the Olympic Games,
- 0:04Speaker 1: either in 2036 and 2040. Durban would be the main
- 0:08Speaker 1: host city. Other cities, though, could offer themselves to host
- 0:12Speaker 1: a number of sports. And I was saying that for
- 0:14Speaker 1: the Olympics, you need to have venues for a lot
- 0:17Speaker 1: of different sports. At LA, LA 28, as the Games
- 0:22Speaker 1: in California next year is known, there will be 36 sports.
- 0:27Speaker 1: And they range, obviously, track and field. Everybody knows about that. Swimming,
- 0:30Speaker 1: there's got to be an equestrian area, and you can't
- 0:32Speaker 1: just have a field with horses running around and going
- 0:36Speaker 1: over jumps. There's got to be seating and something that's
- 0:38Speaker 1: a little bit permanent. There's boxing, there's baseball, there is badminton,
- 0:43Speaker 1: and I'm still on the A's. There's a lot of
- 0:47Speaker 1: stuff that goes on at an Olympics, including skateboarding, by
- 0:51Speaker 1: the way. That's in LA at least. But let's find
- 0:53Speaker 1: out what was actually said at the announcement. Who made
- 0:56Speaker 1: the announcement and what are they saying would be the
- 0:58Speaker 1: benefits to the country of doing this? Mbali Khlope is
- 1:01Speaker 1: EWN sports reporter and he was there. Mbali, very good
- 1:04Speaker 1: afternoon to you. First of all, the motivation for Durban,
- 1:07Speaker 1: what was that?
- 1:09Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Dada John, and good afternoon to your listeners. Well, Durban,
- 1:12Speaker 2: as we know, has everything that you can think of.
- 1:15Speaker 2: It's got a couple of facilities, it's got hotels, it's
- 1:19Speaker 2: got a couple of stadiums, and it is... you know,
- 1:22Speaker 2: the city were willing to put the money into the
- 1:26Speaker 2: bid also. So we are talking 65% off, you know,
- 1:31Speaker 2: the proposed Olympics being held in Derbs. So it is
- 1:35Speaker 2: the preferred primary bid city. Other cities, depending on Sasko,
- 1:39Speaker 2: if they do decide to give Joburg, let's say football,
- 1:42Speaker 2: they can give Joburg football. If they do decide to
- 1:45Speaker 2: give Cape Town Athletics, they can give Cape Town Athletics football.
- 1:48Speaker 2: But we are looking at turning Moses Mapida into an
- 1:51Speaker 2: athletics track. Remember, we've had cricket being played there. We've
- 1:55Speaker 2: had rugby. And they're thinking maybe around the stadium, because
- 2:00Speaker 2: it's a big stadium, they can put an athletics track.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And if they want to, they can keep it. If
- 2:05Speaker 2: they don't want to, they can take it out. But
- 2:07Speaker 2: I just think that they should just keep it if
- 2:10Speaker 2: it does happen.
- 2:12Speaker 1: They're saying that there is enough room around the perimeter
- 2:15Speaker 1: for an athletics track that wouldn't require having to move
- 2:19Speaker 1: any seats or remove any seating. I mean, presumably someone's
- 2:22Speaker 1: been out there with a tape measure.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Indeed, Dr.
- 2:25Speaker 1: John.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Obviously, there was an evaluation bid committee which looked at
- 2:29Speaker 2: all the cities and the requirements, and Derbs seems to
- 2:32Speaker 2: have outshined most of the cities. Doburg, like I said,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and Cape Town were one of the cities that were
- 2:38Speaker 2: considered out. But with everything that is being said, they
- 2:42Speaker 2: said Durban has most of the things, including the roads,
- 2:46Speaker 2: you know, the airport and for surfing, things like surfing,
- 2:49Speaker 2: which is an Olympic sport. It's much easier for them
- 2:53Speaker 2: to host in Durban.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So what happens next? I mean, you say the city
- 2:58Speaker 1: of Durban is willing to put up the money. Of course,
- 3:01Speaker 1: the city of Durban very likely is about to get
- 3:04Speaker 1: a new administration in a week's time. So this all
- 3:08Speaker 1: might be a little bit premature. But anyway, 2036 is
- 3:11Speaker 1: a long way off. But what do we have to
- 3:13Speaker 1: start doing now as a country? And is there any
- 3:15Speaker 1: indication of what that's going to cost us? I mean,
- 3:18Speaker 1: presumably the assessments were not done by the IOC, unless
- 3:22Speaker 1: they were. I assume it was a South African team
- 3:25Speaker 1: of experts who will then help to prepare a bid. But,
- 3:30Speaker 1: you know, these bid documents literally cost tens of millions
- 3:33Speaker 1: to put together. Who's putting up the money and what
- 3:36Speaker 1: needs to happen?
- 3:37Speaker 2: Obviously, a gentleman by the name of Robin Reddy was
- 3:40Speaker 2: the bid chairperson who was in charge of the evaluation process.
- 3:44Speaker 2: And it had to be taken to parliament by the
- 3:46Speaker 2: Minister of Sports, Gaten McKenzie, who was given the green light,
- 3:50Speaker 2: the go-ahead to say, you can bid, but the guarantees
- 3:54Speaker 2: only come in at a later stage. So the money
- 3:57Speaker 2: is not given now because there are processes, there are
- 4:00Speaker 2: stages that need to be passed before 2028. And only
- 4:05Speaker 2: in 2028 when there are guarantees, when the government is
- 4:09Speaker 2: happy with, you know, what they are seeing. Can they say, no, guys...
- 4:13Speaker 2: Go ahead. And then the IOC needs to then decide
- 4:16Speaker 2: if we have the means or the capability to host
- 4:19Speaker 2: the Olympics in 2036 or 2040. Well, the likes of
- 4:23Speaker 2: Germany have put in for 2036, 2040, 2044. So Germany
- 4:29Speaker 2: may come in last, but I think it's a chance
- 4:32Speaker 2: for Africa. And the minister has said not long ago
- 4:35Speaker 2: that he wants to bid for everything, having lost the
- 4:38Speaker 2: so-called F1 bid. But he still has hope that it
- 4:42Speaker 2: will come. So for the Olympics for now, money is
- 4:47Speaker 2: not involved, but they are talking. Yeah.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Okay. So up against us, India, Qatar, South Korea, Germany, Hungary,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and Turkey. And of course, I suppose a possibility Hungary
- 5:01Speaker 1: and Turkey or Germany and Hungary would share a border
- 5:04Speaker 1: might consider doing something jointly, although that's me being Purely speculative.
- 5:10Speaker 1: October 31 was the deadline to formally declare the interest,
- 5:13Speaker 1: so we've done that. November 2026, candidate nations must make
- 5:17Speaker 1: virtual presentations. March 2027, the IOC Executive Board will approve
- 5:23Speaker 1: a shortlist of candidates to enter the strategic dialogue phase.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And, yeah.
- 5:29Speaker 1: My sense is the IOC certainly likes to keep everybody
- 5:32Speaker 1: interested for as long as possible. So I doubt, uh,
- 5:36Speaker 1: we get thrown out at that point, but by mid 2029, uh,
- 5:40Speaker 1: the final host city election will take place. I'm completely
- 5:44Speaker 1: against this. Um, I don't know if you heard my,
- 5:47Speaker 1: my reasons, I'm going to be the grumpy guy in
- 5:50Speaker 1: the corner. Um, but yeah, I just think if we're
- 5:53Speaker 1: going to spend money on sport, we can spend money
- 5:55Speaker 1: on other things. I think the, uh, The claims that
- 5:59Speaker 1: get made about the future economic benefits, the money that
- 6:02Speaker 1: you get, et cetera, et cetera, I think are vastly
- 6:05Speaker 1: exaggerated by people who have vested interest in getting us
- 6:10Speaker 1: all excited. But like you shop and someone says, John,
- 6:14Speaker 1: you look fabulous in that purple and green skin-tight catsuit,
- 6:18Speaker 1: and I'll give it to you at a special knockdown
- 6:20Speaker 1: price of 5,000 rand. But, you know, my friends, if
- 6:23Speaker 1: they shop with me, will say, No, I think, you know,
- 6:26Speaker 1: maybe get some black jeans. What are your views, though?
- 6:28Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a big downer on this. Well, Dr.
- 6:32Speaker 2: John, as much as I'd love to have us host
- 6:34Speaker 2: another big event, but at this point in time, looking
- 6:37Speaker 2: at the country and the economy, I don't think we
- 6:40Speaker 2: are at a point where we can afford to put
- 6:43Speaker 2: a bid on, especially for such a major event. Maybe
- 6:46Speaker 2: for a small-scale event, in 2022, we're supposed to host the,
- 6:51Speaker 2: what's this, the Commonwealth Games, last minute government decided to
- 6:55Speaker 2: pull the plug. Let's look at that. It's something that
- 6:57Speaker 2: you spoke about that in 2022 we failed and then
- 7:01Speaker 2: they gave reasoning that Commonwealth actually was watered down also
- 7:05Speaker 2: when Scotland were, you know. I think maybe if we're
- 7:08Speaker 2: in a better position governance-wise, finance-wise as a country, I
- 7:12Speaker 2: think I'd say go ahead. But one thing I like
- 7:16Speaker 2: about big events is that the legacy it leaves behind.
- 7:20Speaker 2: We've hosted a whole lot of, you know, sporting tournaments
- 7:24Speaker 2: and they're great legacies. And the beauty of this, we
- 7:28Speaker 2: don't really have to build. We just need to refurbish.
- 7:31Speaker 2: So the money that they are throwing around, the 500 billion,
- 7:34Speaker 2: may even be less. So I think they are looking
- 7:38Speaker 2: at it from a huge number. I think it may
- 7:41Speaker 2: even be, let's say, looking at 100 billion instead of
- 7:44Speaker 2: 500 billion. But do we have that kind of money?
- 7:47Speaker 2: At this point in time, can we afford to be bidding?
- 7:50Speaker 1: Okay, well, we've got differing views on this on 702 Drive.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Let's find out now what's happening in the latest news.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Thanks to Mbali Khlope. You can check out his various
- 8:01Speaker 1: reports on EWN.co.za.