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Bachelor Nation Reacts to The Bachelorette Cancellation with Dina Lupancu & Parisa Shifteh · In My Hometown

• 0:21
  SPEAKER_06: Hi, you're in my hometown with Jamie and Pascal.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_06: And today, Bachelor Nation, we have the ladies.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_06: We finally have some ladies in the house, Pascal.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's true.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_06: Last week we had We've got a lot of men.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_06: We've had a lot of men, and we've got we've actually got some young ladies, some young women here.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_06: I'm thrilled about it.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_06: We have Dina Lupanku, who is back with us, and we have Parisa Schifta.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_06: Is that correct?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_06: Correct?
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm so happy that you guys are here.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_06: We are going to talk everything from life after uh bachelor nation to uh of course the bachelorette cancellation and just a whole host of other things.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_06: We're just um thrilled to have you back in.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, excited to be back, guys.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_06: Welcome back.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_06: It feels like home.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, my hometown.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_06: We said we were gonna have you back and you did it.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_06: And then to have Parissa with us.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_06: You guys were on the same season of the Bachelor with Grant, right?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_06: And then you've done Bachelor in Paradise since then.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, and you have a lot of news and stuff we want to get to.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but I mean, first, let's I mean, we we need to ask about the Bachelorette cancellation and you know what your take, what your guys' take is on it when you heard.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_06: Were you surprised?
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_06: Were you not surprised, Dina?
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was surprised that they pulled it so quickly.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: I thought that maybe I mean, I guess it was only a few days before.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I was surprised that they pulled it, I will say.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I think with enough outcry, ABC will do something.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_03: We've, you know, I think come to see.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, it was surprising to me.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_03: Especially because ABC knew they knew what was going on and they knew her history, and we all have gotten background checks.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_03: We all know, you know, what's out there before we get on the show.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_03: And so I think just the negative publicity of it all is what really did it.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, that's no surprise.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_06: The tape.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_06: So do you guys think if the tape had not come out, they would have just aired they would have aired it.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: They would have sure aired it.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_06: And what did you think of you didn't know her before?
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_06: You knew are you guys fans of the secret lives of Mormon Wives?
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_06: I don't watch actually.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so did you so you just knew her from the promos?
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_03: I and I knew, I mean, I've seen it on TikTok.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: You can't avoid it, it comes up.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I've known that Secret Lives of Mormon Wives was a thing.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen Taylor on you know TikToks and stuff like that, but I had never watched the show.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: I actually started to once the cancellation happened just because I wanted more information.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um I just I I I don't know what, honestly, I don't know what is the attraction about that woman personally.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: We are giving her way, way, way too much publicity.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: Who is she?
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Starting off wrong.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, but I honestly, because I I've I've seen a couple clips and uh yeah, you know, and again, what is the attraction about her?
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: What is the attraction about the Kardashian?
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: What is the attraction?
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: What is people so fascinated about the nonsense like that?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think at first it's the relatability.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, she's someone who's like raw and herself, and she's not always fully put together, and yet she doesn't really care, and she's confident in that.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_03: And she grew a following in TikTok in 2020 when it was blowing up, and so people just saw, oh, you can kind of be no makeup, hair kind of you know, ruffled around and dance and not really care.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: And people really took to that.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's pretty sad to see where our society are going to, to be honest with you.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't disagree with that.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_06: I think you hit it.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_06: I think she did she did grow this following during that time.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she's she's sort of known for taking her sweatshirt out of like her hamper and just wearing it, right?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_06: And not caring.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was watching the show.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: This is the first time I'd watched a season, and she's like meeting a guy for the first time.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_03: And like you would think she just rolled out rolled out of bed.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm thinking to myself, like, I guess this is the part where you know, fans watch and they think, oh, I don't have to be put together all the time, and I can still be confident and be okay in who I am.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: And I think there's, you know, there's some value to that.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_03: I think.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but I mean uh the couple video, the couple clips.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not big on social media.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: I happen to be with my daughter over the weekend, and she's into the you know, that the Gen Z are like they leave with their phone.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: They do.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then we went a little bit over uh what's happened in Tic Tac and stuff like that, and they were showing me some video about her.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: She's a slob, she's a slob.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but people relate to that.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: How could you relate to a slob?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you walk into a house, there is clothes all over the floor, there is food all over the I mean, this is what this is what it comes to.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we know you don't on the show.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_05: We know you don't relate to it.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I mean, I I I just don't understand that Gen Z generation will glorify a slob.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I don't, I'm not saying I agree with that because I'm OCD myself.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: Very, but in a world of Kardashians, in a world of, have you guys heard of like Instagram face where everyone looks the same and everyone has, if you look at the women from the 90s, how beautiful they are, and Carolyn Bissett, like that uh vibe that's kind of become really popular lately, it's you know, everyone looks the same, and it's like this glorified um like perfection.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: And so I think 2020, when everything was horrible and people were getting sick and people were dying, and life didn't look so great.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_03: People, it was like a breath of fresh air to see someone not be perfect and people still like them.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_06: And what is your take on it?
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_05: So I just it's tough because I do see that side where like she doesn't try to be perfect and she's her raw self.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_05: But I struggle to agree with just like not really so much the profanity, but like how her social interactions with people like that's not I feel like we were all like raised to be kind and respectful, and just just seeing like how she talks to people, and I I don't know, like she's trying to make a thing where she's like, Oh, so like sorry, not sorry.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_05: This is just me being me and raw.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_05: But then at the same time, I'm like, okay, well, the real you isn't a nice girl, like that's not something I I feel like that should be uh like glorified.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_06: You think they made a mistake in choosing her?
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm still trying to understand like what the whole like their thought process was behind all of that.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_05: Because from one side I can see it's like, okay, let's view like the Mormon wives and like how big they got, and let's see like how we're doing.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what if we like, you know, just mash the two and like maybe this is gonna help the franchise.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_05: But then on the other side, I'm like, well, just like knowing what we went through when we got casted and like the background checks, and like there was like 10 plus interviews, they really did their homework, and they would always tell us, Well, like, in the end, you represent us, you represent the franchise.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_05: And so I'm like, Oh, okay, understandable.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_05: But then I'm like, okay, now with this, like you chose a girl with this background and this history.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_05: So she now represents you, she represents ABC, The Bachelor franchise, The Bachelorette.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why I'm just still trying to understand, like, how she was still like chosen.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_06: There was a double standard, it sounds like, because she had the followers and she had this sort of celebrity, if you will.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you remember, they even got her phone.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they get rid of the old producer Mel, uh, not Mel, um uh Bennett and Claire, who used to be, I believe, the producer as well.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then they changed it because they were what they called create a toxic environment, which I believe then I had a great conversation, great time with them, and then they had a problem.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: They changed and this guy came up all of a sudden, he breaks the mole, and he's picking up a golden bachelor out of nowhere.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: He's picking up a gold uh bachelorette out of nowhere.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and to be quite honest with you, the the golden bachelor franchise, the golden bachelor franchise with Mel wasn't a successful season.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they didn't do the rating because the guy was not really the carissima the personality to carry the show.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think so.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: Going with uh the uh uh Frankie, whatever her name is Taylor.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Taylor, I mean, I I don't understand because I know then you guys and I went to a background, criminal background.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: I had a lawsuit with uh 12 years or 12 years ago about the contract dispute.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: And they said, What happened with that lawsuit?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: And they really investigated about that lawsuit.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Look, I've been in business for so many years.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: The chances of me not being sued are very slim.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I said, but that's been resolved.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: So for them to go to that small little peanuts of my problem over this one who is like a I don't know, I don't I really don't understand what they did.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Personally, that was a bad choice, but the good part of it is everybody's talking about it.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_06: Well, yes, but is it um I mean I guess that there is that old saying that there's no bad PR?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_06: But I I I think that it could damage the brand in some way, and they're gonna need to really figure out what they what the next move is.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_06: If you guys were pr were the producers, what do you think?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_06: What would be your next move for it?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_06: What would would you go out with another bachelorette?
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_06: And if you did, who would you be looking for?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_06: Or do you think we've had a conversation about should it go back to the golden bachelor and a little more wholesome?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_06: And they go back with that.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_06: What do you guys think?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man, I know.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think they should have never done the Taylor Frankie Paul in general.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that was just that's gonna be hard to dig out of.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um I think moving forward, uh, the fans that were going to watch, regardless of who was going to be Bachelorette, they've probably lost.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_03: And then the people that they were trying to revive, you know, bring, I guess, a new slew of, you know, fans that were coming with Frankie, now are not gonna watch the next season of whatever it is because they didn't get to see their girl Frankie or Taylor be on the show.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: And so I think moving forward, I think they just have to do something completely different.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not talking like a new lead, it's something needs to be completely different.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, for example, have you guys seen there's so many new shows now?
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: The age of attraction.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: My husband is obsessed, yeah.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love the age of attraction.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: Overboard?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: Have you guys watched love overboard?
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: My husband is obsessed with it.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: So there's just there's too much now.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Survivor.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: There's yeah, there's so many now.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: And so the for the bachelor to really survive and to like leave, or I guess keep their mark, right?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because they're the ones that had that mark on reality TV dating shows, they need to do something completely different.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not with respect to the lead.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think it needs to change a lot, and I think it needs to stop being so produced, and it needs to stop um trying to make I don't know what the word is, but it's like bad TV.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, when bad TV is so bad that you just can't look anymore, it's it's gotten like grimy.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: I think Bratcher has been doing a little bit of that.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: But don't you think then everything has a shelf time where I think the the Bachelor Bachelorette has been a 20, 20, 20 years plus uh uh type of show.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they they revamped a little bit with the golden bachelor, which the first season was very successful, the second season was quite successful.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So they did that, but I just don't think then the the concept of the bachelor-bachelorette it's old, it's passive.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: They need to put it in a box and come up with something completely different.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's over.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's a i it they have their share of time, they had a great time, they had their followers and stuff like that, and they're trying so hard with the cruise now.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: Let go the bachelor on the cruise.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're trying so hard to revise the success they had about 20, 25 years ago.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think to me, the show personally read it off.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Don't call it the bachelor-bachelorette, come up with something completely new.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly what I was thinking.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I like to relate things sometimes like running a business.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_05: And like, like you said, uh, the bachelor franchise has been around like 20, 25 years.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_05: When you're running a business and you don't change each year and adapt to like how society's adapting, you fall behind.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_05: There's gonna be a new business coming into town, and they're gonna like you know, knock you right off, um, knock you just out of business.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_06: Your pedestal.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the pedestal.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_05: And I uh I feel like especially when it comes to dating, like if you compare how we date today, come even from compare it to five years ago, it is so different.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_05: Different communication styles, different dating apps, everything is different.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_05: So, how can we keep the same format with The Bachelor, handing out roses, eliminations?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_05: How can we keep that the same every single year?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, it's like with time, it's gonna just become so old.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: And every year you're competing with a new show like Love Overboard, you know, and and I think the difference there too is we're so done putting these men on a pedestal.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't want you to so done to put those women on a pedestal.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean it's kind of true, right?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Same thing with us.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's true.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: We live in a society where there is so much choice.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Sure, there is an illusion of choice, too, that it's unlimited.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's I don't think that's good either.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: But to say that a group of 30 women genuinely and actually want to get to know this one guy and potentially get engaged to him is not realistic anymore.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Because why would I go for this guy if there's this other guy in Bachelor Nation that I think I would, you know, hit it off with more?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, we have Bachelor in Paradise to kind of account for that.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: But the bachelor, bachelorette needs to do something different too.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_06: I think you're so right.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_06: And I think it's really it it evolved into something where um you just know that most of the people that are going on the show are not uh necessarily going on it just to find love.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I'm sure love is a byproduct or love is a part of it.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not saying that they're not into it, but it's just it's um it's they it's a known quantity now, so there's just something that about it that has to change.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_06: So I agree with that.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: You fend love really mean, you know, you guys been and we've been on the show.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: How could you fend love in in such a short period of time without really getting to know the person?
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: Most of the time we spend more time with the girls and the guys than we spend in with the the bachelor or the bachelorette.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so to me, I fell in love with my guys.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I mean, because I was with them all day long.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: We had great conversation, and I was lucky, fortunate enough to have a one-on-one date with John, but uh that one-on-one date wasn't enough for me to say, Oh, I'm in love, I want to marry this woman.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: But it's happened, it's happened, yeah.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's becoming more rare.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think I think remember again we talked just earlier.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: This show is 20 years old before the the the internet, before the social media, before all the tic-tac.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: The I mean, but you know, you look at the time 20 years ago as today, it's it's a different world.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're living in a completely different world.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: We're spending more time in our in our phone, looking what the tic-tac nonsense about everybody than than really focusing on what is important, you know?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: I think I was gonna say with The Bachelor, it used to be very much about the values that you shared and finding someone that has that same morals and the same values that you care about in a relationship and in the marriage ultimately.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: And now because of how big social media is and how you can monetize, everyone is going on, you know, not really caring about if if our values align, if what we want in life is the same and can move forward into something successful because they're thinking about how can I monetize and benefit from this experience.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_05: The wrong reasons.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, right.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_06: Which every season has that little um that little vignette where it's like they're here for the wrong reason, whether they're a um guitarist and they want to, you know, or a rapper.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_06: It's about getting exposure.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, right, yes.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, so we're talking about friendships from the time.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we've had a lot of um Pascal's friends in here, and you guys, you know, are from the same season.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_06: So talk a little bit about that and how much you guys see each other now.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_06: I know that Parisa, you moved from Detroit to Chicago when?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_05: In October.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_05: How is that going?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's so fun.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_05: I just can't wait to like experience finally um a summer here.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, in Chicago.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_05: You're gonna love it.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's so fun.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: And Parisa was coming a lot over the summer.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I kind of felt like you lived here.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: But then she would go and it'd be really sad.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: But now it's great to wake up and see her location just a few blocks away.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: And we see each other all the time, and you know, we're always constantly in communication, so that's been great.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: So do you have a link?
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't I don't really associate our friendship to the show at all.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: And now, like I'm good friends with her and her boyfriend, and like we've you know, spent time together.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, boyfriend.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: So so out of those 22, 24 girls, how many of you are in contact or in a group chat?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And how many?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know in the in the in the bachelor, the golden bachelorette with Joan, we have about 16 guys who are texting constantly, and we try to do actually, we are in the process right now to do an uh uh yearly reunion like we did last year.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: We did it in Vegas, 15 of us showed.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna try to do one in Chicago this year with again the same 15-18 people.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, how many of you are are still uh in contact from that season?
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like I would say a good amount.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, good amount of us.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Text today.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: And were you in that group chat?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, with Bailey Bay in New York in a couple weeks.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think there's definitely like clicks among the girls and friends.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, some people live closer to one another, so like us, or I know Alex lives close to where Chloe's at, so they're always hanging out, but then Alex is dating Andrew, so we see Alex a ton.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_03: And so there's a lot of overlap too.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but there's definitely you know clinks, clicks among like the bigger groups, and then we're also like a lot of us, I would say maybe like seven of us are really close.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: And then other people, like if you went home night one, I think a lot of the night one girls are closer to one another.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: And then as you got further into the process, you kind of um became closer with those girls.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's funny because we we are in contact and some live in the west coast, some we're live in the east coast.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And when the text in is like six o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'm sleeping, dude.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're not waking up?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: You're not working out in the morning.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_06: So, Teresa, what was your experience?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_06: You did Bachelor in Paradise, um, how many like uh soon after the season with Grant, or was it a little bit of time?
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um it was soon.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was um the filming started in May.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, last year.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, and how did that go for you?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, well, it was you know, it was a little paradise.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, she didn't find anybody in paradise.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well she you were dating um someone for a little while.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_05: In paradise, yes, right?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, okay and you know yeah is that his name?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_05: Bri is that his name?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_05: I forgot about him.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, no, it is okay.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_06: So were you?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I see all joke because the golden?
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you were with just CK and Keat and the Captain Kim and stuff like that.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_06: Pascal almost was there with the game.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_06: I know, we missed you.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_06: I was almost there.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_06: He decided against it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_06: What was your well, I mean, what was your take on having you could be honest about having the golden?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_05: I honestly loved it.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_05: Because it felt like I'm so I'm I'm really close with my parents and like my aunts and uncles, and like I love like growing up, and even to this day, like I'm always with the parents and uncles and aunts, you know.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_05: I I love the conversation.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_05: And um, so when yeah, when we were all there, I mean, every morning we were all like eating breakfast together, and just like the conversations and the jokes, everything was just it lightened the mood a lot.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_05: Is that nice?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the golden were lighting the mood or the the the the the whole concept?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: No, the golden really did.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they were they were so funny, and like you know, starting like they are the ones that like initiated to play games and like what are the ladies?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_06: Was that was Susan there?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you didn't have you didn't have the A-Team in the Golden, you had the C B team.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_06: I think it would have been funny if you had like Nicole or a couple of the other um ladies from the Golden, but anyway, you liked it though.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_06: I thought it was a good ad.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay, because especially too, just like having that girl talk, because it's like you don't you don't have you know your girlfriends there or your mom there, and so like to lean on someone uh a golden, like as a mom.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_05: And you're not competing with them, yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: And you're not competing with them, right?
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_06: Because it just didn't play out that way, but didn't they think that it would be that that you would be competing with?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_05: I think they wanted to I feel like no, they they last were separate though.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, no, yeah, for the dating part and but I think when they started advertising for it, they just wanted to like leave you know the um the idea out there for people to kind of imagine, yeah, imagine and kind of like make their own assumption.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean there is this show age of attraction that is.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a very popular show actually.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: Which I don't believe that you're talking to someone and you can't surmise how old they are.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like, come on.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I get like between the younger generation, sure, maybe you're 20, maybe you're 25 or 30 or whatever.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: But once you get into the 50s and in 60s, I think one guy was quite older, right?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like you are you really pretending like you don't know that this guy or this girl is younger and he's super old?
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like what?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_06: I think you're right.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_06: I think unless you're intentional about trying to deceive that person, I think you would be able to figure it out.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: But how do you receive what you look like on the outside?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I I've seen I haven't watched the whole show.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_06: But some of these people don't necessarily look their age.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we've had Jordan on and Jordan well, you know Jordan and Emily.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_06: That's true.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_06: He does not you live in the same building.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_06: We live like two doors down from one another.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_06: So you still see them a lot.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_06: So Jordan has said that he didn't really know, or did she say she didn't know hell, I guess she knew his age because she knew because he was in the best though.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:12
  unknown: Yeah.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I think, yes, there are exceptions to that rule.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: But I think as I was watching the show and they're trying to act like, you know, they're there's a couple and they don't know each other's age.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, come on, she she literally looks 22 years old.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_06: BS meter for you.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't I don't love that concept.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, although age is just a number.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: You always say that, Pascal.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, you know, you again, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk a little bit about the age difference between Oh no, you know, we talk about that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: You take in a 60 years old woman and you take a 60 years old guy.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the 60 years old woman will never be able unless she's a knockout, which is okay.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, she would never be able to date a 40 years old man.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_06: But a 60-year-old man, you got on this role.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_06: No, but don't agree with men.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_06: No, no, that's true.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think men are dating much younger than women does.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's the fact.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_06: I I actually have heard that there is this trend now that older women are dating younger men, and that younger men are more attracted to the older ladies right now.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, probably.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_06: Again, I don't know how how old, 60, I don't know, but maybe in the 50s.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you you always contend that old that older men are better than that.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I see around when I go out.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there is always a attractive middle-aged woman dating a guy who is about 20, 25, 30 years older than her.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because that's all that that they're left with.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because what do you mean that's what they're left with?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_06: There aren't a lot of options out there, so they have to go older, I guess.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like it really is per like it depends on the personality.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_05: Because there are some women that you'll ask, like, oh, you know, why are you dating older?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_05: And I feel like the most common response will be like, Well, he's just so much more mature, and I can I can have better conversation with him compared to some another man my age.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I will say, so my dad, he's 21 years older than my mom.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: And I asked him that question, and he my mom even, you know, said it as well.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: Like, my dad is very young at heart and very active.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_05: And when he first met my mom, like he found that in her.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: And um, I mean, they're yeah, they're still married.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_06: So how old is he now?
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_05: 77.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, yes.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_06: I think it gets as as they get older, it'll get a little more.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_05: Now you can my mom, yeah.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_05: We'll talk about that.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_05: Like now that age difference is more noticeable compared to yeah, like, you know, 10-15 years ago.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_05: But they still like just watching them.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I actually I was just with them over the weekend and just seeing them.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're still like they keep up with each other.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's like so nice.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and it's really good.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_05: So I feel like it has to be like really dependent on the personality of both people and like what they're looking for.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_06: And someone who is your, you know, older, who's who has so much energy and is in such good health and wants to do those things might be more attracted to women that are younger because you do feel like they're you're matching in the energy or something.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_06: I think that's a good thing.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_06: You know what?
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think the the age matters as you get much older.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: But the age doesn't matter when you are in the 60s and 45 or 60 and 40, it doesn't really matter.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: But then when it goes to 50 and 70, uh, 55 and 75, that's when you see the change.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because we age, yeah.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the energy level is not the same.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I think then at this point, then would you build up a strong foundation of a friendship, of respect, of admiration, and that's why you could move on.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've had a couple of friends of mine who are married with women who are 25, 30 years younger than them, and I could see when they go out, there is a lot of respect, a lot of admiration, and the woman really takes care of him and he takes care of her.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think to me, you're right, as you get older is different, but change time change now.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Time change is not the I also think it's because she knows she's gonna have a second husband after that, and then she'll have all his money.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a little strategy there, and I don't I don't count it.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: You you know, she'll keep doing, she'll keep doing.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: My brain was already thinking, well, yeah, they're gonna be.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: She's a lawyer, she's a lawyer, that's why she's always calculating, you know.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_06: I was looking forward to the Taylor season for um for several reasons, but one of the reasons was that they were having some of the guys were a little bit older than typical.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_06: Um, I think the oldest was around 43.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_06: 42.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that was.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_06: So I was sort of interested in seeing how those how those maybe.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, um, a couple of the of the guys had kids.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So would you would you date?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, would you date, let's say, let's say, okay, there you go.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: You asked her right there.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: Would you date someone who's got two young kids?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I would I wouldn't.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I wouldn't personally because I want to be the woman that gives um birth.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_05: Like my yeah, my husband his first child.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_06: So if Grant had had a couple kids or a kid that you knew about when you guys were interviewing for it, would you have not done that?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: I would not have done the show.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's like the shared values and alignment that I would be looking for.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't want to date somebody who's got me particularly at that age.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: And we talk about that in our last show with the Golden Bachelor.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Then what would I want a 28 years old waste my time with a 32 years old with nothing but a headache and has got two kids.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Three, three kids.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Three kids.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_06: Um, so you're in love.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_06: Is that right?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so let that's that was a let's talk about love.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_06: Pivot, pivot um, over what's how did you meet and how old is he?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_05: So uh we met actually we were together when I met him.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um we matched on one of those dating apps, and um I uh happened to be coming into Chic.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_05: I was coming to Chicago for a girls' weekend.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um Well, no, you should say it like we were in where was it?
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: You guys were happened to be vacationing in the same state when you met.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: And then he just happened to be from Chicago and she's from Michigan, which was really close.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and so it was like by happen chance.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was really cool.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: We were so that was yeah, yeah, very rare for that to happen.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we were both in Miami at the same time and um both busy, so like we couldn't make anything work to like meet up there.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_05: And then yeah, when I saw he was from Chicago, I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm actually there next weekend.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm staying with a friend, let's meet up, like do something like Friday or Saturday.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_05: And he was like, sounds good.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, um, us girls, it was yeah, us, uh Serafina and Latia from our season.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_05: And we had a really cute girls' weekend, and um we went to the speakeasy and um it was the one.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: There's so many speakeasy.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_03: Are there?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like we're lacking in.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: No, there is a lot of things.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Cachet?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: It was brand new with the uh Virian, Darien, hold on.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Dyrian?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what it is?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: It was the steakhouse that had just opened up.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: It they've got the jazz people on the stage, way too loud, in my opinion.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um is it by the Divian hoops?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Divian.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Divian, yeah.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_05: So underneath it.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_05: Underneath that, yeah, yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_05: And um, but yeah, so I I told him to come.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_05: He was with his friends, and then they came and it was.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_05: And then I didn't see Parisa again.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: And she was just chatting around.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: She was just chatting with him all night, and then I got to meet him, and we all kind of it was it was great.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was such a it's always, I feel like such a such a small world because one of the guys from our group, too, that you're friends with, he knew him from high school.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Chicago is so small.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, everyone knows each other somehow.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_06: So I thought it was really cool.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: He's super cute.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_06: I of course like did a deep dive into some of your stuff, and he adores I love your get ready, like, or the outfits that you show.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_05: It's cute.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_05: We oh thank you.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_05: We um we became official like with just like becoming exclusive last July.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so that's been a while now.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and are you planning to move together, or uh it's still it's still a space little space in between, or uh we are, yeah.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I weren't you guys looking at places kind of recently.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, revealing something here.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's fun.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, no, it's going really well.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_05: I just like sometimes I I get so scared of like speaking things out into existence, even though like I'm always, you know.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's a good thing though.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_03: You have to speak good things into existence.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: I know you think the opposite.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_05: Whenever we talk, I'm like, Dina, like I I gotta stop.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_05: I can't talk about anything.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: And she's like, no, you have to speak the good things into existence.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: I think if you keep it all in and you're not um speak is like spell, right?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's actually, I forget what like the saying is, but you are like when you're saying a spell, you are speaking something into happening.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna be able to do that.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: You manifest, you manifest it.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: And you're not doing the opposite, you're not jinxing yourself, you are just saying this will happen.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I got very into neuroscience recently, and how your brain doesn't know the difference between um like a memory and something that you're just like telling it.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: I forget what exactly it is, but it's like very interesting.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_03: So essentially, your reality is what you speak, your reality is what you think, your reality is what you tell yourself you feel.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: So, like today I was having a rough day and I was like, okay, I'm healthy, I am blessed, I am good, I feel good, and I felt much better.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: But don't you wake up every morning and say, damn, I'm so great, I'm wonderful, like I do.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: I tried to, but sometimes.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm blessed, I'm alive, I'm breathing.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes I don't feel that way.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: And so I have to remind myself, and I'll I will actually stop and say it out loud.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_03: I am healthy, I am blessed, I'm thankful.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: I have so many good things in this life, and there's so many people that are suffering, and so many people that don't have all the amazing things that we get to have, like water, you know, we have this right over here.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people don't.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, anyway, this is just like a monologue.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_06: But it's such a good message, too, to hear it from this beautiful woman, successful, um, who seems to, you know, have it all, and to say that you also have a bad day, and then what you do about that.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm sure a lot of people that are you know listening and watch us, like, you know, that that's great to hear.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: About you.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you with?
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_06: Not that you're not yeah, to hear not at all.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_06: Where are you?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: We know we know that Parisa is happy, they're moving together, God bless.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: She looks happy, she's in a good place.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: How about you?
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on with you?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: The last time we you wanted to find a husband, you know.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: Did I say that?
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: You said no, yeah.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: You said the next the next man has to be is gonna be my husband.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: So, what's going on?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Are you dating?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Are you going out?
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Are you mean you you're a knockout?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you should have been one of the bachelorette.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: She should have been the bachelor.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_06: I should have, for sure, for sure.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_06: But I thought it's I mean, I did not say you were looking for husband.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_06: You said that you were happy with your own.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_06: You like the paraphrase.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_06: You were happy with yourself, and then if that came, you were open to it.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm very open.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I tend to ignore guys, and like if I get a message, I'm like, eh, you know, um, I just you don't want to put the effort to it.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: I don't really want to put the effort because I'm not um I'm not that impressed with what I see, you know?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so if I I but I need to get out of that, wonderful easily you have been.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: But I have been.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess you gotta give it a chance.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta get you gotta get to know the person.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes the person might not be what you think, but when you start having a conversation, yeah, it's open the doors and you say, Well, you know, I'm glad I knock on that door because I'm I'm I'm excited about what's coming.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna tell you guys a story.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like way too open with people.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's what this is what hometown is about.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: So I was on my way to see Parissa.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't told you this yet.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: I was on my way to see Parissa and Serafina, and I get a DM from a guy.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I know that.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: I know, but I didn't tell you what's happened since then.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and he messages me and he says you should date my friend.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, Okay, that's kind of cute.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's like a friend vouching for his other friend, and you know, he seemed like a decent guy.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: And so I was like, Yeah, sure, whatever.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and and I told him that day, I was like, I'm going to start being open to the possibility and like actually entertaining, you know, when opportunities come.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: So I said, fine, it's your lucky day, kid.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, sure.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: So it really was his lucky day.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: So he like sends me his information, like he's this, that, and the other, and you know, all great qualities.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: And so then the guy messages me, and um we've been talking.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: We actually had like a four-hour call the other day.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: FaceTime or um, four-hour phone call first, and then we were like, okay, we should probably FaceTime.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: So then we FaceTime is important.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: We FaceTime last night.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: And how how did the FaceTime come up?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_03: Real good.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Good?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, really good.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Where does he live?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: I want to know what he was.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: So this is the hard part.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_03: He lives in California.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Geographically undisable.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: But he's really funny and he's super cute and has really great things going on.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Would you move?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_03: I asked him if he would move.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, would he move?
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: He said he would.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, he's got no job.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: He's he owns a business, so he would he would open up an office in Chicago.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_03: Pascal, you know me.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Gene, give me a couple of things.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_06: I'm dating a guy.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm dating a child.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: Can I move with you?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: I'd dating a guy with no job.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: But it's not easy to move.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's not to me the challenge when I was in the the the Golden Bachelorette was the the the relationship.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have a hundred of DM of women who would love, I mean, I flew a lot of them.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm telling on yourself a little bit here.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then and then I realized then, you know, I just didn't want to travel.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: I just want somebody who is accessible on the on a weekend, who's accessible during the week.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: And uh you know what?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: I like a little bit of not having access because it means I can work, I can work my long hours, I can still see my friends and my family, and then still like foster this friendship and then relationship with this person.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: And if it really works out and it's meant to be, then we'll figure it out from there.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um whereas I think in you know, dating in Chicago right now is I'm not really fitting the time to go on dates with guys, and I don't really want to because I'd rather go see my family, or I'd rather see my friends, or I'd rather work or go work out, or there's like 10 million other things I'd rather do.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: And so this is new for me, it's very different.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: I've never spoken to somebody that was in a different state or even considered it.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but it just happened to be a week where I said I'm gonna be open and try.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so far, things are good.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so happy for you.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_06: I think so.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_06: I think um, I mean, I would hope that you'd be able to find someone in Chicago, but at least to open your heart.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm a believer, you talked about sort of manifesting, I'm a believer that um sort of the the act action begets more action, and so maybe just because you're talking with him that something else might happen.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: So what groupage are you looking for?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know because I almost started talking to this guy that's 55.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm so I'm on I have a dating coach, like a matchmaking woman, yeah, and she's been showing me like potential candidates, and one of the guys is 55 years old.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: And so I was like, I think that's a little too old for me.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: Still younger than Jordan.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: So so 55, most likely he's been married, and most likely he's got children.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's what's interesting.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's a flag.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_06: According to Bethany, you know, Bethany Um Frankel.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_06: I um she's just said on a TikTok that it is now no longer a red flag.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_06: She thinks it's a new green flag, that it's basically some of these guys that have just not been focused on it or didn't find anyone, and now they're they're there.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_03: But how many really successful men have gotten married and have had kids and have they managed to do it?
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm with you, Pascal.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think that it's a little bit of a flag.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: When you're a man at 55 years old who's never been married, who doesn't have children, to me there is a flag.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: What is the um he's selfish, he's about himself, it's all about him, is him, him, him.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: It it it's very easy when you, you know, when when I like to date personally a woman who's been married, who's had children, because we have something in common.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: A woman who's never been married, me dating a woman who's never been married, it's about her.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: She's selfish, it's all about her.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: Me as a father and you as a mother, you know then it's uh it it takes a lot to be a parent.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of giving away, a lot of understanding, a lot of compromising.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: When you're single and you have nobody, there is no compromise.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's my way or the highway.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_06: But maybe this is someone who um has grown it took him a long time to grow up.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_06: So I will say let's I there are exceptions.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: I think there are exceptions.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's probably really rare to like find a guy like that.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_05: But I feel like for the majority, it is what you're saying because I mean, think yeah, a 55-year-old who has just lived his life for himself for 55 years, has his own routine.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_05: It is hard to do.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be hard.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_05: He's gonna be setting his own ways, he's gonna really want that change.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_05: And so it really depends on that person.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_06: She must kind of come up with a reason that he Yes, okay.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, he is I would like to hear wildly successful.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay, and had just hasn't made time for it and now is really intentional and looking for someone to share everything with.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_06: 55 is not that old.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's not.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: I don't feel it.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like so it's not that whole, but for built in a family, it is old.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: So I that's what I was thinking.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I was saying.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: Built in a family is gonna eat 55 is old.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: For him to have a child?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: The borderline.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then I'm thinking, like, if if I have a child, and then you know, that age difference becomes so much more noticeable when you're much older, and then I have to find another husband.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: But you're gonna have a lot of money.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: But if you start out, exactly.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_06: Do you do you guys think that um it's the responsibility of the friend who has a boyfriend to try to help set up?
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_06: Like, are you one of those people?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_06: Do you try to do that?
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_05: I, if I could with Dina, I would.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_05: But I've I know she is very particular, but like again, we always say it's like we aren't going to drop our standards and settle when just because it's, you know, if something's not working for us.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: And like I love and admire that you hold really high standards because it's now actually I I think about this too with my boyfriend.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_05: Now thinking about the future, like when we do want to have kids, and now I'm I'm seeing my friends go through that with their husbands, and I'm like, oh my God, you need a team player through all that.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_05: Like I I don't even like to be uncomfortable.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I don't want to, you know, like I I can't imagine being pregnant and not having like a partner, not having someone to help me.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, like I mean, even like with house chores or just you know, cooking.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_05: And I I you need that team player.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: And so just like you know, that example, but going or even too, like thinking about the worst, like we're getting older, our family's getting older, going through God forbid, you know, when the day comes, we lose someone in our family.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I need my best friend, my husband by my side throughout that entire like this morning experience.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like that's so I'm always just thinking those things like the good and the bad in the future, like who is gonna be by my side throughout it all.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's it's tough.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you really have to choose why it takes time, it takes time to get to know the person before you get the children.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, you gotta travel together, you gotta spend time together.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: Traveling is the best way to get to know somebody.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it is.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you go when you go in a five, seven days uh vacation and you wake up in the morning, you spend seven days, 24 hours a day with that person, that's when you really get to know that person.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, and and more you do more traveling, more you get to know.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: And if you pass those traveling trips, then you have a good relationship.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and then then you think about a family.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: But again, I think kids are the next level because it's not just about you now, it's about him.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, you know, and then all of a sudden, you know, the the the partner you had has a lot of pressure to uh you know provide, being a provider, so he's gotta work more, he's gotta spend more time.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, unless you're both comfortable and you're both working and earning both a good living, you could have a nanny to come up and help you, but it's not easy.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you shouldn't lower your standard, you should go for exactly what you want.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you don't want to get married, have kids, and all of a sudden get divorced.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what's happening.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: People compromise.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: We compromise in too much because of loneliness, because we don't want to be alone.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we want somebody to be with, and uh, we say, Oh, I don't mind this, uh, you know, but later on you're gonna mine about this.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and for for the first time, women are not marrying for financial stability.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, because they because women today are much more financially stable, and a woman who earns a good living doesn't need a guy to support them.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: Before, women were compromising because he was a breadmaker, and then she was at home taken care of, and you know, that's that's the balance.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: I've always wanted someone who works, who has a a life on her own, a life on my own, and we combine our life together.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: But having a somebody who stays at home and raise a kid, all of a sudden you're losing that that that that connection personally.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a choice.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and you you have shared that you you you don't like that, but I know a lot of people that do like to stay home.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't stay home, but I'm still speaking for the people that have stayed home.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_06: You do have a career.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_06: You are a pediatrician, pediatric behavioral analyst.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, that's a very interesting.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_06: Tell us a little bit about that.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_06: We've talked with Dina a little bit about her her work before.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so I am technically like a behavior therapist and I work.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: Work on behavior change with my clients.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_05: So currently I am working with children.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_05: But recently my boyfriend has helped me start my own business.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_05: So now I just I love also, so like working with children, I target um behaviors to help with their like functional communication skills and their regulation skills.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_05: Um and I work with parents to help them implement these programs at home.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um but now, especially like after the bachelor, I just I love dating and talking about dating and communication styles and relationships.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_05: So now I'm bringing that into how I practice.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so like working now with um like adults, either um having like a single, like just one-on-one client helping them with their um dating life and like their attachment style.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like I learned more um about like anxious attachment styles and oh, like we talk about like anxious about awaited time.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_06: Wait, I was just with someone this week on this spring rig trip that I had to be on who was reading a book called Attachment Theory.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I I she had it out at the beach and supposed to be amazing.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's very, very good, really informative.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think when you first start dating someone, and I think we've talked about this the last time I was here, but how I approach dating so differently.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_03: And now, like those two hours, those four hours are do you know your attachment style?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_03: What is it?
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: What are your love languages?
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: How do you know?
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: What type of relationships have you had and why didn't they work out?
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_03: What do you what did you need to improve in yourself?
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: What did she want to improve that didn't work out for you?
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like these are the questions I'm asking.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it is more important than ever to know if those mesh with what yours are.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: And if you don't know what your attachment style is, whether you're secure, whether you're avoidant, whether you're anxious, whether there's some How do you know what you are?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um so it all stems from childhood.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but you know, based on there's a quiz you can take.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: And so you have to be very honest when you take the very and that's another quiz.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Are you honest with your are you self-aware?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: Can you take this quiz and like be aware of the way that you react when your partner does certain things?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, very cool.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_05: And um, so yeah, like I now I'm kind of bringing that into communication styles.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and my boyfriend has been my guinea pig with like how I'm testing a lot of these um like teaching strategies that I would normally like use in my programming with clients.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_05: I'm using them on him first and like in our relationship.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_05: But um, but yeah, so it's it's been really good.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: But you move into older clientele now?
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, older.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_05: So you move into the country.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I need coaching, I need coaching and major therapy.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_05: All ages and also um with like relationships as well.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_05: So not just like romantic relationships, but even like mother-daughter relationships, sorry, mother-daughter relationships or father-son, sisters, just like to help them.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um let's just say if it was relationship therapy, helping the couple first like kind of recognize their communication styles.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_05: And then from there, what are the communication styles?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so I guess you have kind of knowing if you you're avoidant or anxious, and then from there, like knowing how like how your partner is, and then from there, like, okay, how do you communicate when you are feeling this emotion or when you're like do you shut down?
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_05: Do you leave the house?
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Do you like it?
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's that's that would have been helpful.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_05: Then we know, yeah, and then then we talk from there about like my biggest thing is communication is everything, but you need to be regulated before you communicate.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_05: A lot of people are reactive and they have those conversation conversations when they're reactive, and you're not getting anywhere.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_05: And so it's helping couples understand like let's be regulated first, kind of discover how like your coping skills for you.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um, learn your partner's coping skills, and then from there, when you're both regulated, now let's understand each other's communication styles and like let's functionally communicate.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly I love that.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I wish you the best.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think we definitely need these.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, I think there is a niche for what you you you're doing right now.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, for sure.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_06: I um Pascal's talked a lot too.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if this would be part of the communication piece, but as you talk to people who are dating of showing your true self early on in the dating, he gets very upset about people that I mean you know, they so when when show them best elves and then it's like they don't know.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: It is true when a woman or a man, I'm not taking the inner thank you.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because uh for you, Jimmy, when it's a woman or a man, yeah, okay, when they want the when they want to conquer, they have a tendency to put a facade, they put an image and really not.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and then as soon as they conquer, they become who they are.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and then change that's but you used to love this, now you now you don't.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, I never did.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: I did it because I wanted to be with you.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I you know, I think you're right, you have to be yourself, you have to be authentic.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is me.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: Take it the way it is.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: You don't like it, we're not for each other, but if you like it, let's move on.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to compromise my personality, my my my style just because I want to be with you.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: So now you, Dina, you said you had a dating coach.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: Tell me a little bit more about that dating coach.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's more like a matchmaker.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so it's are you paying that matchmaker?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_03: So the women don't pay the matchmakers.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know the answers.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: But I just wanted to know.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, actually, I will tell you one thing.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: I have been contacted by a lot of matchmakers who wanted just recently again to fix me up with women.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: Those women are paying.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: They pay and they pay in big bucks.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking uh 25,000 to 50,000.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean they're different group age than you, obviously.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: But the women who are widows, who are wealthy, who are looking for companions, and then they call me and they say, Hey, would you like to meet this and da-da-da?
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: And that they send me the curriculum vite, the picture, and I said, No, no, no, no.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: So still single.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I but that's I wonder why.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: But you said so.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: You're still single.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, actually, I'm seeing somebody right now.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: You are what did you get your Super Bowl party?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Because I didn't would have met her.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, she wasn't at the Super Bowl party.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, no, she wasn't at a super bowl party.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_06: This is much newer.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not even familiar with it.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just catching you know, it's just listen, I told about mine, and I've barely been talking to this guy, so you have to spill.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so so so it's uh uh no, it's we'll talk about it a little.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I can't be the only opening.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: No, she's a she's a wonderful woman who has a great personality, who is very attractive, who's uh has her own business, amazing, has her own money, so it's not like I'm paying for everything, which I lack.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um gets to the part we want to know.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, she's been married, divorced, no kids, and um she's in the fashion business, so she's always well put together.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Everything that you do.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, in shape, she doesn't she doesn't drink, okay?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: So when we go for dinner, it's very cheap.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a cheap date, very cheap date.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: She doesn't eat anything, so we order one, we we order one on one appetizer, one entree, and water, and that's where we go.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, she's she's a lot of fun, she's she's extremely positive.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: I like people who are positive, I like people who wake up in the morning and are in good mood.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's not I know I know she's not faking it.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: I I know that's her personality.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: She's upgoing, she's energetic, she's you never know if they're faking.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: Huh?
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_01: You don't know if they're faking.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, you could, you know.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: I've got the experience.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: I have the experience.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_03: So there are people like that.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I think when you meet someone that's in their 50s and they kind of exude that, but they're not putting on a show at the end.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: But he he evoluted.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's been he's been a few months, we've been seeing each other.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: We've traveled a couple of times.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, we did very well.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, very easy.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like the woman who takes two hours to get ready.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: It means that put your hair on a ponytail and let's get the hell out of here, you know.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: You want her to look great, but she can't take a long time.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's like I'm not sure.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they they they have they look great to begin with.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: They don't need I mean, you're a beautiful woman, you don't need much.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I took two hours to get ready, Pascal.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, we'll have a we'll have a problem, Dina.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_06: I know.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_06: Well, we've had a lot of revelations from this conversation.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_06: This has been so great.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_06: I want to go in so many different places, but we're gonna have to have you guys back for another round.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_06: We're getting Pascal to open up.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_06: I know, Dina.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_06: We're gonna have to um because she's been watching the podcast.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: She says, you know, you never you never said anything about me.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, okay.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_03: Tell her I said you're welcome.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, she can join us next time.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_06: A minute 53.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_06: You said something about her.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_06: So a minute 53, so hopefully she's a minute 53.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, now you'll know if she actually watches the whole podcast.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, good one.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: Don't say anything.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're right.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say anything.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna watch if she watched a podcast.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_06: I love that.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_06: Well, no, this has been really super.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_06: I wish we wish you well um with your new love and of course, um, and your new and your new career, actually.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, um, where should people go to find out more about it?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um the regulatedcollective.com.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I love that.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_05: Good name.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Deregulated Deregulated?
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_05: No, just regulated.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Regulated, because I'm deregulated.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: So if I'm deregulated, I go to you to get regulated.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_06: Help you correctly.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_06: And Dina, we wish you well.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_06: We love to have you guys.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_06: We love to have you.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_06: Good.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_06: All right, thanks.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_06: We'll see you next time in my hometown.
• 53:54
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• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: We'd love to answer.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: Only the good question, okay?
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, only if it's nice.