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The Hidden Battle Women Face: Identity, Confidence, and Worth | Tina Townsend · More Than Before

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Have confidence in yourself and who you are and what you believe
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you are, that you are worthy and you are somebody because you
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are. God created you in His image and
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each one of us is unique and perfect in that way.
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You are your own person. Be confident in your skin, be
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confident in what you wear, and don't wear anybody else's
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problems. Hey everyone, welcome back.
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I am so excited for my guest today.
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Leadership doesn't always start in the spotlight.
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Sometimes it's forged in West TX grit, shaped by faith, and
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refined through discipline. Today, my guest is the vice
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president of Martin County Chamber of Commerce and she
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leads sales and client relations for Alpha Omega Leadership.
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She's a mom, a wife, She's a friend of mine and I'm excited
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to have her on the podcast today.
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Tina Townsend, welcome to More Than Before.
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How are you today? I'm doing great, Nathan.
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Thank you for having me on your podcast.
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I'm looking forward to this. It's going to be great.
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So I'm curious because it's really fascinating to me that
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you're a secretary for like 2 months for the Chamber of
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Commerce and then all of a sudden you're the president.
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How does that work? Well, well, you see, it happened
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very quickly. I got involved.
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I wanted to be involved in Martin County and I grew up
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there. I went to high school there and
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it's just, it's kind of home for me, right?
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So my cousin was actually on the board in Martin County and my
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best friend. And so we would talk on the
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phone all the time and she says, I don't know, I'm struggling
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with this and this and that. And I said, well, I'll help you
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and what do you need? And we'd bounce ideas off of
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each other and we would collaborate off of each other.
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And at this time, stay at home, mom.
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And I said, I'm, I was bored. And I said, well, hear this,
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hear that, you know, we're going back and forth.
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And she said, why don't you just get on the board?
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Why don't you just join the chamber?
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And I said, I don't know if it opens up at the beginning of the
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year, maybe I'll join in. OK, so then next thing I know,
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she says, hey, our meeting is Monday night.
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I'm I think you're a board member now or you're on the
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board. And I said, I said, oh, OK, not
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the executive board or anything. OK, so we get there and the
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first meeting, it's one of those, all right, now we need to
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have our secretary. We need to vote as secretary, we
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need to vote, you know, all this stuff.
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And nobody raised their hand except Tina.
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And I said, I I can take notes, I can do minutes, I'll help.
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I know, parliament procedure, you know, sort of.
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I did a lot of it in high school.
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I said, so I'll do it. And, you know, they say don't
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open your mouth, don't volunteer because there you go.
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So that lasted about two months. The vice president resigned.
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We lost our director at the time.
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So it was a president and I was the secretary and then we had a
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treasurer and we needed to restructure, we needed to
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rebuild and we needed to basically start over.
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And then they said, well, we need a vice president.
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And so we got a couple. She recruited a few people.
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Our president did. She became president.
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And then I recruited a few people to the board and I said,
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OK, here we go. And so we have restructured the
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entire Martin County Chamber of Commerce.
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I became the vice president. Within that two months they
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voted me in and it's been a little over a year I believe,
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and we actually just got an offer letter and a signature out
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for a director that we never thought we would be able to
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afford or hire 2 days ago. Wow.
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That's amazing. We turned it around for sure.
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It's been a lot of work. I'm curious, the volunteer
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aspect is really interesting. Have you, have you always been
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one to kind of step up, volunteer, kind of be that first
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hand that kind of raises? I don't mind that at all.
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I enjoy helping other people. I I like to serve.
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And I think that goes back to my parents when I was younger, our
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door was always open for whomever.
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It did not matter. It didn't matter if you had no
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money, no clothes. It didn't matter if you were the
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richest person in the county. Our door was always open.
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And so my parents always say we're not going to turn anybody
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away. We're always going to have food
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at our table and anybody can sit at our table to eat with us.
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We'll do everything we can to serve them, to be kind,
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considerate. And I kind of live by that, I
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guess, to this day. Of course, younger, probably not
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so much as I get older, I think. And my parents were such an
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influence, you know, and they are so, they are so true.
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They are so real, so. So where did where did you grow
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up Tina and and what were you like as a child?
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Well, I grew up on a ranch. We had two ranches.
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We had one in Garden City, TX, and then we had one in Midcift
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area. And my grandmother lived in
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Midcift, my parents and myself and my sister, we lived in the
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Garden City Ranch, about 45 miles.
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And every day my dad worked down at the ranch and irrigated.
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We had a little bit of alfalfa and we ran a lot of sheep.
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We had a ton of sheep. So we'd gather cattle, we'd have
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shearing season. So there'd be a whole week where
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complete strangers. There's by 12/15/20 of them.
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I couldn't even tell you how many.
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And we had over 1000 head. I think we ran on that ranch and
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they would shear sheep all week. And my job was, I don't know if
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you've ever done that, but they had these really tall.
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I'm probably not describing it very well, but I mean, I was
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sure I was little. So I would say, I'd say, OK, I'm
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going to say 8 foot, I could be wrong, maybe 10 foot.
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And they had these wool sacks that you put up at the top, had
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a ring on it. And when they would shear, these
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guys would throw all that wool back in that sack.
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And my job as a little 8 year old would be to jump up there,
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climb up there, get in and pack all that wool down.
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Couldn't tell you how many times I got stuck.
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And so I'd have to sit there and I'd wait at the bottom and I'd
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just wait and wait. And I thought, OK, well, they're
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going to throw more wool and I can work my way to the top and
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then maybe somebody will see me and I get out, you know.
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But that was my that was my childhood.
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That was, that's what I did. We lived on a ranch and we
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played and we, we're country kids, you know, I put a bridle
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and a piece of string around my horse and rode around like I was
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an Indian, you know, I mean, I was wild.
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That was our life. Where were where were you in the
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pecking order with your sibling? So my sister is older, she's
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three years older than myself and she she protected me.
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She told me what to do and I said OK and we fought a little
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bit. I liked to bite.
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I bit her a couple times, but we fought a little bit.
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But she was very protective, super protective over me.
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She still is. I don't think that that's
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changed. She's in her 40s and early 40s
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and she's still very protective and she still tries to tell me
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what to do. So there is that, but spoiled
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young baby, that's kind of what it was.
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There's something interesting about growing up on a farm, you
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know, having all the acreage, being able to go out and really
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explore. I, I think a lot of kids, a lot
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of adults nowadays don't even know what that means to explore
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land and to kind of live off of land.
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I'm curious, what is you look back at those times with you and
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your sister. Do you have like any fond
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memories of of you guys not maybe getting into trouble, but
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maybe creating mischief, doing things that maybe most kids
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probably wouldn't be doing nowadays?
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So we had a hideout. OK, she'd probably get mad if I
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said this, but it's terrible. We're 2 little girls, you know?
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But we had a hideout and we would saddle or not saddle, we'd
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get on our horses. She would take off and I'd have
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to follow her and it would be dark, it'd be sun setting, I
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guess. You know, it's 6:00 or so here
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right now. And so the sunset and that's
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kind of in the evening. And it'd be about that.
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We take off. We'd say see you dad.
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Bye. We're going to our going to our
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Fort, you know, and off we would go.
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And it wasn't that far. We'd hide out there.
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And she had a she, she took a bucket.
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We had a bucket, a 5 gallon bucket.
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We set out there. And then we had these branches
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that we made into this weird bench that you definitely did
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not want to sit on. It was Mesquite, but we thought
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it was cool. That was our couch and
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imagination just was crazy. And everybody says, well, we
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take our friends out there and be like, this is our, they're
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like, well, I have to go to the bathroom.
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I said, well, there's your toilet, there's your 5 gallon
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bucket, you know, and they're like, no, there's no way.
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And we said, well, then you have to walk back up to the house
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cross. And they said, well, we're not
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walking back out to the house, We're going to ride back up
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there. Said, no, we're at our Fort.
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This is our Hut unit. You have to walk all the way
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back out to the house. It was quite a waste.
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And we said, and there's mountain lions.
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So you've got to watch for the mountain lions.
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And they're like what we're like, Oh yeah, there's mountain
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lions. There's, there's could be tigers
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back over there. You know, and our friends, we
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our friends didn't do horses. They didn't do stuff like that.
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And I think we gave our friends more trouble than we gave each
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other. So that's for sure.
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Oh man. But you know, my dad, you'd be
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like, what? We'd get back in, he'd be late.
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Y'all been out so late? Y'all been out so late?
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Oh, well, we're, we're Cowboys and Indians, Dad, you know, they
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stayed out late. And that was just our life.
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It was pretty neat. Yeah.
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That was some of the mischief, yeah.
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It's so funny because you know, as soon as you start having kids
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and you look back on your own life and how, how you acted and
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the things that your parents let you do, you know, we were saying
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this before even started of like, man, how did we even
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survive? I'm, I'm curious, like what are,
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what are some of the parallels that you see as like with your
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daughters right now and kind of who you were growing up of like
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mischievous or like to explore? I mean, you're, you're raising 2
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very strong, independent young women.
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What are some of those parallels that you see of yourself and
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your daughter from, you know, years ago?
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My kids, they like to figure things out on their own for
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sure. They definitely have an
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imagination. I will say that my oldest, she's
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10 years old or 11, she's 11. She just turned 11 in January.
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So we, my father has, my dad has a bunch of bulls.
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He does younger kids bulls, youth bull ridings and things.
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And so my oldest decided that she wants to be a stock
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contractor. That's kind of one of the things
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that she wants to do. When we said, OK, we'll figure
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out we're, we're in plans for all of that.
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We're building to that future for her on the side.
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And I said, OK, so she says, well, I'm going to flank all
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these bulls. And I don't know if you know
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what that is, you know, the flank and it has to be a certain
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tightness and all that. And one day, Long story short,
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my husband builds this, this wooden thing.
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So we have about 9 miniature ponies.
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And I don't know if you've ever trimmed a miniature pony, but
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it's absolutely treacherous, All right?
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They kick, they fight. It's worse than a big horse.
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It's awful. So my husband's like, I can't do
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this anymore. So he built this turntable, this
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wooden turntable, it's amazing. And it's on this pipe and we
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hinge it over and it like has a little hinge underneath it.
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And we lay these ponies down and I've had it all, have padding in
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there, had to put padding in there and all this.
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And so we're trimming ponies. And so I thought my daughters
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would be super excited about this.
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My oldest has a Little Pony trimming kit so she can trim her
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little pony's feet and thought, oh, this is going to be great
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for him. So we're inside.
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The kids were supposed to go feed horses.
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My husband and I step out into the garage and we look out in
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the back point of our property and I said, what is going on out
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there? And so my oldest daughter had
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decided that she's going to take that pony table, that it stands
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up straight and you just lead a horse in and you lay it over.
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But it when it stands up straight, there's a gate and
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it's almost like a shoot for a bull or a bucking horse.
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OK, so she has now decided, mind you, this is the parallel, the
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imagination that we're going to get in trouble here.
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She's decided that she is going to flank her ponies and we're
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going to buck her ponies and she's going to start a miniature
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bucking pony contracting thing that she's got going on.
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So we look out and I said, Oh my gosh, they're going to get in a
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wreck. I said, are you going to do
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something? And he says, no, no, I think
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we're just going to let him go. And I said, OK, well, let's have
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a seat. So he sat and watched him buck
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out ponies. I thought, Oh my gosh.
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But letting the kids just do, letting them live out here.
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Letting them, you know, we didn't ever want our kids to go
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to public school. We wanted them to have an
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imagination. We didn't want anybody to tell
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them what they could and couldn't do.
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Besides, you know, hey, you have to sit here.
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You have to get in a straight line.
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You have to this. I just had to add an issue with
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that. And yes, they're very, they're
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very disciplined. They listen.
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We do tell them what to do on certain things, obviously, but
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for their best interests. And I said I want them to have
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their own mindset. I want them to not get torn
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down. I don't want them to feel.
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I don't want people to belittle them.
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I want them to be strong, independent human beings.
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And so I'm going to do everything that I can to pour
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into them that. And so no matter what happens,
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they don't get broke down, they don't get tore down, and they're
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still going to be able to overcome everything.
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And so anyway, that's just kind of, that's kind of what we
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decided and this is our life. Well, I love it.
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It's, it's, it's so great to hear because I think there are a
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lot of young ladies that are out there that need exactly with
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what you're talking about. They, they need a safe space to
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really understand who they are to, to have challenges, but then
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also to be able to explore and to be able to, you know, have
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their minds open to opportunities.
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It was funny because just this last week my daughter was asking
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me, she said, Dad, how do you make money?
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And I said, oh, that's I like that.
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Let's talk about that. I said, you know, when you, if
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you want to help someone, what you do is you find a need and
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then you fulfill that need. And I gave her an example.
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I said, so you see all the rocks out there in our yard.
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I want, I want all those rocks gone this summer.
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So you could come up to me and you could say, Dad, would you
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pay me a dollar to fill up a bucket of rocks?
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I'll fill up the bucket of rocks.
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And for every bucket, you know, you pay me a dollar.
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I said, if you came to me and you solved that problem for me,
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I would pay you for that. And so I'm already starting to
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create a kind of this entrepreneur mindset in her to
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say, you know, what are the needs that I could meet and
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fulfill? And if I can do it well enough,
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someone would pay me to do it. Now, I think for a lot of
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people, we don't really think about training our kids in that
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way of solving problems. It's usually about, you know,
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what do you want to be when you grow up?
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And, and you know what, what great job could we get you to?
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What kind of education do you need to have versus really
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taking the spirit that they have and saying, man, what is God
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placed in you, which I think is really cool what you're doing
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with your daughters. I'm curious though, when you
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were, when you were growing up. I, I know I said this, but what
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did you want to be, Tina? What, what did, what did you,
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what did you want to because I know you, that you, you know,
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you used to do barrel racing. I don't know when you started
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that, but what did what did you want to be when you were growing
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up on a farm? It was definitely, I would say
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not a barrel racer. I did not see myself college
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rodeoing. I did not see myself doing
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barrels. I never saw myself picking up a
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rope and, and I rope to the rope now to this day.
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So I wanted to be a teacher. I remember every year for
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Christmas, I asked for an easel. I wanted an easel.
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And you know, those old easels, plastic wool things.
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And it had the paper and you could flip the paper over and he
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had all these markers you can do.
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And that was, I would go into my room and I would take my easel
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and I would turn. And I looking back now as we're
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talking about it, that's it's, it's very interesting because I
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would have an audience in front of me and I would pretend that
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the entire room with the living room was my audience.
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They were my kids. They were, I was teaching.
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And so I went to college to be a teacher and I took a couple of
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classes. And I think it, the first class,
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my professor says this, you don't get paid anything.
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This is absolutely terrible. And you're probably not going to
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like it. And half of you are going to
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leave this class and never get your teaching certificate.
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And I was like, man, this is this is hard truth.
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This is awesome. This is where I want to be.
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No. So I said, yeah, yeah, I think
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that's right. I think I'm that person.
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I think that's, I think that's me.
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I think I'm going to leave. And so I did.
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And then in the position that I play today in my work, I I speak
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to people out in an audience. And am I fulfilled?
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Yes. Am IA teacher.
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I don't know that I would say solely that I'm a teacher, but I
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do have my little audience in my living room that I'm speaking to
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and then looking, I think that with that question, I'm like,
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then maybe that's not where God wanted to be necessarily as a
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teacher, but maybe maybe just talking to people, you know, So
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that's kind of enlightening. So that's nice.
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That was good. I think it's, I think it's
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amazing because I, I kind of had that similar feeling for myself
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is, you know, I, I grew up in the martial arts world.
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I, I was teaching classes when, gosh, I was probably 14 years
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old, I was in high school and I started teaching kids and, and
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there was something deep inside of me that I just, I like, I
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like teaching people. There's, there's a desire and I
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have a gift of being able to teach things in different ways.
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So if someone doesn't understand it this way, then we try it
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another way and then another way until finally we get it.
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There is something really interesting with that though,
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because with teaching there comes this speaking thing.
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And if I, if I've if I've understood this correctly, you
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weren't necessarily the person that wanted to speak in front of
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people. Is that correct?
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No, I did not. I do.
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I have to tell you this story. I, like I told you, my dad
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actually built a huge arena about, I don't know, six years
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ago, maybe my time is probably off on that, but it's been a few
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years. And he had a huge bull riding.
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He started getting into the bulls and all the things.
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And so he had this huge bull riding.
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It was the first big event. Our sound was good, but then it
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was packed. The entire arena was packed.
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We had it fenced off, you know, for a smaller pin for the bulls.
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And the announcer stand was way up top.
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And we had an announcer. We found some someone locally
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and they were announcing. And so I actually managed the
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entire facility. I ran the bar, the concession
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stand. All the people made sure
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everything was good, the security make sure that was
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good. If anything happened with the
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sound, I would run across the arena through the bucking shoots
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around the back, you know, through the back pins and I'd go
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up to the top because it was at a terrible location in the arena
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at the time. Since then they've moved it, but
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that's where it was. And so a lot of times it would
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the, it would just get too hot, it'd start clipping or get too
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hot or cut out. So I'd have to go up and I'd fix
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it and then I'd run back down clear across the other way to
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the bar and all the things, Long story short, ran out of cash and
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I had to run 15 minutes and grab some cash and head back.
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And so I grabbed some cash and I'm like small bills and I was
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running back. And on the way back, I get a
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phone call and they say, where are you?
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We need you. And this, I mean, it was
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probably, there's probably 4 acres there and just packed full
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of cars. The roads were packed full of
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cars. It was huge.
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And I said, I'm hurrying, I'm hurrying, I'm on my way back.
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We ran out of this. We ran out of that.
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I'm on my way back. I said, well, we lost all sound.
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And I said, oh what? You know what?
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Well, we lost all sound. I said I'm coming, I'm coming,
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I'm coming. So I run back over there and I
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run up to the top and I said, OK, what's happening now?
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And they said, I said you're good.
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I flipped the switch. I did what?
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I did whatever. I said you're good to go.
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And they said, I said, where's the announcer?
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They said, we don't know. I said, you don't know where the
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announcer is. No, he disappeared.
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And I said, oh, my gosh, are you serious?
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Yes. I said, OK, it's all right.
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It's all right. They said, well, you can
21:36
announce. You can.
21:37
You can do it. And I said, I'm not getting in
21:40
front of people like I'm not doing.
21:42
I'm not getting in front of people.
21:43
It's not happening. So they said, well, somebody's
21:46
got to do something. I said we got to keep the show
21:48
like going. I said, OK, so I crunched down
21:51
and it was an announcer stand, but underneath you could kind of
21:54
go underneath the table and nobody would see you or
21:56
anything. And I said, OK, this is the
21:58
plan. I said, you're going to hand me
22:00
that sheet that has the draw on it and who's up?
22:04
And you're going to hand me that microphone and I'm going to hide
22:08
right under here and I'll announce the bull riding and you
22:11
tell me who's in the sheet and I will announce them.
22:17
And they said you cannot be serious.
22:19
I said I am dead serious. I will not stand up there and
22:24
speak in front of anybody. And they said, OK, let's go.
22:29
I said, OK, let's go. So off we went.
22:32
I probably announced I'd say 10 bull riders maybe.
22:36
And it was good. I did a good job.
22:38
And I'm not saying that shoot my horn, but it went good.
22:40
It was smooth. I did a good job and I said, OK,
22:43
my confidence started building. And so they're up there and I
22:46
said, how's it going? The crowds yelling, things are
22:48
happening and they look down. They said, hey, you're doing
22:51
good. Do you want to come up yet?
22:52
I said no, not yet, give me one more, I'll do it after the next
22:55
one. And so eventually I got up, I
22:59
stood up. I ended up giving something
23:01
away. And I told this guy said, I'll
23:03
meet you over there in front of that, you know, the entrance
23:08
door. And at the end of the bull
23:11
riding, he was like, OK, And you couldn't really see who I was.
23:14
And I didn't realize this couldn't see me at all.
23:16
So I probably should have stood up at the first one.
23:20
Nobody told me that anyway. So I walk around and I said, are
23:24
you so and so because I'd called him out earlier than I.
23:27
And he goes, yeah, I said, well, I'm Tina Townsend.
23:30
And I, I was actually the announcer.
23:32
And he goes, what? I said, yeah, I know, I I know
23:36
I'm a girl. And he's like, no, you don't
23:38
even sound anything like what you were.
23:40
I said, yeah, confidence goes a long way.
23:42
It just took me a while to build it up anyway.
23:46
So I'm definitely afraid of speaking in front of people.
23:50
Which is really funny because you're actually emceeing events
23:55
now, right? I am.
23:58
How did that turn around? So now wow, I am so I got asked
24:07
to do a Maxwell live to lead back in January of 2025.
24:15
And Char Stewart, she works here at Alpha Omega leadership and
24:20
she's one of our team members. And she called me one day and
24:23
she says, hey, you're you're you announce right.
24:26
And I said yeah. She says, do you want to maybe
24:30
come up and just do like a radio ad or something?
24:33
I said, Oh yeah, that's fine. I'll do radio ad, I'll talk,
24:36
I'll do whatever. And she says, OK, perfect.
24:39
And then about two months later, I hadn't heard anything.
24:42
She calls me. It's like, think Thanksgiving.
24:44
And she says about that radio ad, we're going to just go ahead
24:47
and have you MC. And I said, I don't even know
24:49
what MC is. Sure.
24:51
And she's like, ah, you'll be fine.
24:53
Don't worry about it. You announce those rodeos,
24:55
you'll be fine. You'll be good.
24:56
And I said, oh, OK, And sure enough, there I was thrown into
25:01
all that and I thought, Oh my gosh, how did this happen?
25:07
Definitely can't hide your face when you go on stage for sure.
25:11
So. No, you really can't.
25:13
But there is something that is so magical about being an MC,
25:18
like, I don't know, you know, I used to teach martial arts for a
25:22
long time and then I've been on a couple of big stages.
25:26
I've, I've spoken in front of, you know, a couple thousand,
25:29
3000 people. And there's something magical
25:32
when you get that many people in the room.
25:34
I don't know if you've noticed this or felt this, but it's like
25:36
the energy, you just kind of play with it with your hand.
25:40
Absolutely. It's not you bringing the
25:43
energy, it's you playing with the energy in the room.
25:45
And there's something really magical about that.
25:48
And I think only a few people really know how to do it well.
25:52
And I feel like you'd be someone that would be really good at
25:55
doing that. I am curious, so you went to
26:00
college for for teaching I. Did.
26:05
So what change what? At what point did you decide
26:10
that you wanted to go and do something else?
26:14
Well, I had no idea what I wanted to do at 18 years old.
26:18
I mean, does any of us? I mean, some people maybe, but I
26:20
was not one of those people for sure.
26:23
I started out at Midland College and I did the teaching and I
26:27
thought, well, it's very cliche, right?
26:31
We're going to do teaching, we're going to do nursing.
26:33
We're going to do one of those normal little things.
26:35
And I decided, man, I'd that didn't work out because I wasn't
26:39
going to get paid enough. So then in my mind at 18 years
26:42
old, right? And so then I did the nursing
26:46
and I said, oh, I'm going to do nursing.
26:47
That's that's where I'm going to be.
26:49
And then I, you know, anatomy and feel like physiology's not
26:52
my strong suit. And so I said, well, that's not
26:54
going to work. And a friend of mine, my cousin
26:59
actually, this is the one that got me involved in the chamber.
27:02
And I said doing her hair one day.
27:05
And I said, man, I just don't know what I want to do.
27:07
I don't know where I want to go. I don't know what my future
27:11
holds. I am kind of at that spot in my
27:15
life, 1920 years old that I have no idea what direction I want to
27:20
go. And at the time I, I wasn't
27:25
super big in my faith. I was raised a Christian, but I
27:29
didn't sit and pray every moment and pray every morning and have
27:33
my quiet time and have my prayer time and not like now.
27:36
And I said, I just don't know what plans.
27:39
I don't know what I want to do, what I want to do, where I want
27:41
to be, you know? And that was kind of my mindset
27:45
back then. And she says, well, I mean,
27:47
you're sitting here doing my hair.
27:49
You've always wanted to do people's hair.
27:50
Why don't you go and go to school for hair?
27:53
And I said, yeah, I guess I can. That probably wouldn't be too
27:56
bad. And so sure enough, I ended up
28:00
trying out for the college rodeo team because I still ran barrels
28:04
and rodeoed a little bit and I got the scholarship and I went
28:08
to cosmetology school and graduated with my cosmetology
28:11
license. made-up a little salon. Did hair.
28:14
I bet you didn't know that, Nathan I.
28:16
Actually did I and. You still have.
28:19
And you still have your license for doing hair?
28:21
I do and I still do hair. Actually.
28:25
I have a few clients that I still take on and I've had quite
28:28
a few this week. I kind of took this couple of
28:30
months off and this week I had quite a few people and they
28:36
said, man, we've really missed you.
28:38
And I said, yeah, I've missed y'all too.
28:40
And they said one of my friends, she tells me two days ago, she
28:43
said, you like doing hair, don't you?
28:46
I said, I do like it. I said, but the most joy that I
28:50
get out of hair is seeing your face when I'm done.
28:54
I said seeing seeing you doing something for you, making you
29:01
feel like you are somebody and you matter because you do.
29:07
And if I can give that to you or to a the client of mine, to my
29:13
kids, to a Co worker, to a teamwork team member, that is
29:17
important to me and the well, how much do I owe you?
29:20
I said you don't owe me anything.
29:22
I got everything that I needed. I did something for you.
29:25
I didn't get a single I didn't get any money at all this week,
29:28
which I didn't care. That's not why I did it.
29:30
You know what I mean? That it that's, and I think as I
29:33
get older, as my mindset changes, as I dive deeper into
29:37
my faith and working where I work now with Alpha Omega
29:42
leadership, I see it's about serving others.
29:48
And it, it means more of what can I give them without having
29:51
to take. And I think the more that you
29:55
can share that with other people and the more that people see
29:57
that, then I think it just makes a bigger impact in other
30:00
people's lives in it domino effect, you know?
30:04
Yeah, well, and I love that too. I'm curious, why do you, why do
30:08
you think it's, I hear this a lot that it's hard for women to
30:12
really see themselves in the light that other people see
30:16
them, you know, getting your hair done and seeing the
30:20
finished product and, and thinking, wow, I can't believe,
30:23
you know, obviously you have to have a good hair stylist.
30:25
So, you know, if if you're looking for someone, go find
30:27
Tina. No, she's like, I don't need
30:30
anyone else. I'm good, my plate's so full,
30:33
but. There, there is something really
30:35
special about finding someone like I think hair is a beautiful
30:39
example of this because there there are certain hair stylists
30:43
that when you go and you sit down and you say this is what I
30:46
want and they say, I know that's what you want.
30:49
But if we do that, it's going to hide these specific features of
30:53
your face. It's not going to show the right
30:55
things that really make you who you are.
30:58
And so you kind of almost talk them into think, you know, you
31:00
don't really need the Bob. Don't do the Bob.
31:02
Don't take off all your hair. And and you speak to them in a
31:06
way to say this is this is truly a beauty that's been given to
31:09
you and you kind of get to mold and shape that so that they can
31:12
see that. I'm curious, how has working
31:16
with women to empower them? How has that changed you in your
31:21
life to be able to help women see really who they were created
31:24
to be? I know.
31:26
That being able to work with them and being able to see that
31:31
there's just something about it. You do somebody's hair and they,
31:35
they just, they just glow. It's like an instant glow.
31:38
They get their hair done or you fix it or you style it.
31:42
You might not style it the exact way that they want it, but it
31:45
just, it brightens them and, and they have this massive glow
31:48
about them. And I, I want my kids to have
31:53
that. I want to, I don't know.
31:59
I just, I want, I want, I want my kids to see that.
32:04
I want my kids to see those things earlier in life than I
32:08
did. It took me a while to see that.
32:11
It took me a while to be that. I mean, at 18 years old, 19
32:14
years old, 20 years old were. I mean, we don't know what we
32:17
want to do or I didn't. And you know, you have your
32:20
college days and you have, well, I'm going to do this and I'm
32:23
going to do that. And I've got all these big plans
32:25
and I want my kids to see what I see now at an earlier age so
32:30
they can have a bigger impact for the future.
32:35
I want them to go further and be bigger and bolder.
32:38
And anyway, so yeah, I think that I think that's really
32:42
important to me. Well, it's powerful.
32:45
How? How has obedience shaped your
32:48
confidence? I don't know that I could really
32:53
answer that. Or maybe, or maybe in terms of,
32:58
because I think one of the things that's really fascinating
33:01
about you, you have so many dimensions about who you are
33:06
from from growing up and, and dealing with sheep to doing hair
33:12
to going to school to be a teacher, doing drums on the
33:16
worship team. Like there are so many different
33:20
aspects to you and I find it really fascinating.
33:23
But you know, you also have this piece about you where you say,
33:27
yes, there aren't a lot of yes people out there.
33:30
There's a lot of no maybe people, but there are a lot of
33:34
people that say yes. And I'll figure it out along the
33:36
way. Why is it so important to be
33:40
obedient to follow through on that?
33:42
Yes, how is that? How is that created confidence
33:45
in you even now in a sales position?
33:49
I I don't, I don't like to disappoint people.
33:54
I'm kind of a nurturer. I want, I want everybody to be
34:01
happy. I want to serve them.
34:02
I want to do everything I can for other people because it
34:05
brings joy to them and I know that it brings joy to God.
34:08
So if I can do that then and stay obedient to that, then I
34:17
know that God is going to provide amazing things for me
34:21
and open amazing doors for me later on in life.
34:25
And so if I can just have that mindset of the more I can do for
34:28
others, the more I can say yes. And, and priorities.
34:32
I mean, I struggle with that. I think we all struggle with
34:34
that. It's it's not, yeah, I'm
34:36
juggling drums and home school and I still do hair and I work
34:40
part time and I still take my kids to little rodeos and I
34:42
still rope and I still volunteer for the Martin County Chamber.
34:46
And I helped start a junior rodeo organization that's now
34:50
very large. And so there's a lot of things
34:53
that I've done, but you also have to have priorities with
34:56
that too. So that's important.
34:59
My family is my number one priority, my husband, my kids,
35:05
that's a priority. And sometimes I get thrown off.
35:07
There's a lot of times that I'm so busy and I'm doing and I'm
35:10
doing and my husband says, hey, hey, we're here too.
35:14
You're right, you know, so juggling, that's tough, but
35:18
staying, staying in line with I'm going to serve and I'm going
35:24
to help. Continuing to do that even even
35:27
though times get tough or even though you really don't want to.
35:31
There's times my mom will call and hey, I need a drummer for
35:34
Sunday, can you come drum? And I said, mom, I really,
35:39
really wanted to sleep in. I mean, like, I really wanted to
35:42
sleep in on Sunday. She says, well, I don't have
35:45
anybody. OK, I'll be there.
35:46
What time? Nine.
35:47
OK, yeah, I'll be there. And so my husband's very
35:51
supportive. My kids are very supportive.
35:53
They load up in the car and off we go.
35:55
But staying obedient. It's tough, but I know that it
36:02
pays off in the end. And it will.
36:04
And it does. And it shows my kids something.
36:07
Yeah. And there's also this piece that
36:09
kind of surrounds you of community.
36:11
How important has community been?
36:14
Because I think you've you've been very intentional about
36:16
building community around you. What?
36:19
What is the importance of having community in someone's life?
36:25
You need that. Everybody needs that, especially
36:27
women, absolutely. They need people in their
36:31
corner. They need people rooting for
36:33
them. And you, you need to be and
36:37
surround yourself with people that are for you and not against
36:40
you. That is super important.
36:42
And there's so many people in this world and so many women,
36:46
women that I know, women that I don't know that if they just had
36:51
that one person that just went up to and said, man, I'm proud
36:55
of you. I am.
36:56
You were doing an amazing job. You know, let's surround,
37:00
surround people with good positive encouragement and
37:05
positive enforcement. And especially women, you don't
37:08
know what a woman's going through.
37:09
You don't know what they're doing at home.
37:11
You don't know what their home life is, what their work life
37:13
is. You know, encourage, you know,
37:16
stay positive with them. And surrounding yourself with
37:19
people like that helps you thrive and it helps you to grow.
37:23
And I think that's very imperative and very important.
37:26
Yeah, I think, I think it's huge.
37:27
And I, and I think that I, I don't know, maybe maybe I'm
37:31
wrong about this, but I feel like a lot of women have a hard
37:34
time opening up with other women.
37:36
There's a, there's a judgement piece that we kind of feel like,
37:40
and I say we like, I'm a woman. Like we.
37:44
Yeah, but why? Guys, it's OK, You've been
37:45
around them any. But there's a judgement piece
37:47
that I sense that a lot of women have a hard time sharing what
37:51
they're actually feeling, what they're actually experienced.
37:53
You know, we were talking about this earlier before we even
37:56
started doing this interview, was that I know that there are
38:00
women who work all the time and they feel like they're judged by
38:03
people who are full time moms. I know that there are full time
38:06
moms that feel judged by people who work that are, that are
38:09
moms. Like there's, there's this
38:11
constant feeling of judgement. And so I'm curious, how do you
38:16
how do you get over that so that you can start to build a strong
38:21
community, especially, you know, if you're for the woman that's
38:24
listening right now, how do you encourage them to create that
38:28
strong community when maybe there's a feeling like what,
38:31
what if I open up and now all of a sudden I'm going to be
38:34
attacked because I'm sharing all these things, insecurities about
38:37
where I feel like I am right now.
38:39
So I'll give you an example. I I just went through something
38:44
kind of similar, I guess in a, in a sense, my daughter got
38:48
accepted. She was on a wait list.
38:50
She's 8. She loves gymnastics, loves
38:52
gymnastics. And so she got accepted into
38:56
this little gym and I thought, OK, we're going to group
39:01
gymnastics. She's done private gymnastics
39:02
for about two years, but I never did the group gymnastics where
39:07
she goes to the gym and does all that.
39:09
And so they said, OK, we're going to start this, you know,
39:11
such and such night. OK, here we go.
39:13
She's pumped, she's excited, she's ready to go.
39:17
And I thought, OK, I can do this.
39:21
And I pull into the parking lot and it's packed.
39:24
And I said, man, I know I'm going to walk in there.
39:27
And there is going to be this woman wearing Prada and this
39:31
woman wearing a coach bag or coach shoes.
39:34
And then this woman's hair and lips are going to be done and
39:37
she's just going to be all dolled out.
39:38
And then they're doing gymnastics and there's Cadillacs
39:41
and Escalades. And I'm just so insecure going,
39:44
what am I about to walk into? I didn't want to be here.
39:48
I didn't want to talk to people. I just want to curl up.
39:50
And I want to, like, go into my shell and go, ha, you know, that
39:55
kind of thing. And I'm just, like, sweating.
39:57
My palms are sweaty. And my daughter is so excited.
40:04
And I were walking to this gym and we're walking on the
40:07
sidewalk, and I said, Are you ready?
40:12
She said Mom, Yeah, let's go. And I thought to myself, if she
40:18
can have that kind of confidence at 8 years old, walking into a
40:22
place that she has never been in, in front of kids that she's
40:26
never been around, that are probably 10 times more advanced
40:29
than her, and she does not care. And walk through a group of
40:33
women and moms and crowd and kids running this way and that
40:36
way. And she is walking in and she
40:38
says I'm Dixon to do what I want to do.
40:43
And if she can have that kind of confidence, why am I getting
40:46
clammy? I need to be confident for her.
40:51
So I need to be right in the middle of that and show her
40:57
exactly how to handle this. And I said, don't be nervous
41:03
even though I'm sweating. I said, you know what, shake it
41:05
off. I got this, you know, and it's
41:09
the same. I do the same thing on stage.
41:11
Why am I nervous? My kid would come up here and
41:14
talk all day long. Have that confidence, you know,
41:17
And it's hard. It's hard for women.
41:21
Women judge other women, women, women.
41:25
It's harder. It's hard being a woman in a
41:27
sense of that, that way. But you know, have confidence in
41:32
yourself and who you are and what you believe you are, that
41:34
you are worthy and you are somebody because you are.
41:38
God created you just like our masterpiece coming up.
41:42
God created you in His image and each one of us is unique and
41:48
perfect in that way. You are your own person.
41:53
Be confident in your skin, be confident in what you wear, and
41:56
don't wear anybody else's problems yours, you know, And so
42:02
I think that that is extremely important.
42:05
And who were you doing this for? Who did I walk in there for?
42:08
Yeah, I walked in there for myself because, you know, I
42:11
needed to. Obviously God was like, hey, get
42:12
yourself in check. But I, I want to show up for my
42:17
kid. My kids are very important to
42:18
me. And I want my kids, I homeschool
42:21
them, for them to see me in that light so that they can see that
42:28
they can do it too. I've got two young girls and
42:31
they need to see that too. So anyway.
42:35
It's so good. There's I love that you brought
42:39
this up earlier that you know, you, you grew up Christian but
42:42
didn't necessarily maybe own faith, right.
42:45
You know, I wasn't praying it all the time or even every day
42:48
or maybe maybe not even every week.
42:51
But there there is a moment for people when they actually do
42:57
come to have a relationship with Jesus.
42:59
And I'm curious for you, when did things shift for you when
43:03
you really started to own your faith?
43:06
And how are you, how are you cultivating that with your girls
43:10
right now so that they can experience something similar?
43:14
Maybe, maybe not now, maybe it's down the road, but what are you
43:17
doing to cultivate that? So when did you feel that shift
43:20
and how are you cultivating that with your girls today?
43:25
I would say that, I mean, I was back and forth when I was
43:30
younger. I knew God.
43:31
I was saved at a young age. You know, I just got into my
43:34
heart at a young age. I was probably 6th grade is when
43:39
I did that and it was a little event here in Greenwood and I
43:43
was so excited. I did Bible drill class.
43:48
You know, it's like a little competition thing.
43:50
I did Bible drill, did all the things that was so great.
43:52
And then of course you get older and you do things and then you
43:55
kind of straight away and then you come back and then you
43:57
straight away and you come back. And I did all of that.
44:00
And I, my husband and I were engaged when I was in my early
44:06
20s and it didn't work out. And I said, man, this isn't
44:09
going to work out. And so we kind of went our
44:11
separate race and then we got to back together in our late 20s
44:15
and I had grown a little bit, I had gotten a little more mature,
44:19
right? I said, OK, I have a real job
44:21
now and I have real bills and I needed to grow up some.
44:25
And, and so then we, we ended up getting married then.
44:30
And so I, we had kids and I thought, man, what a, what a
44:36
crazy thing this is. And he's a deep thinker and he's
44:41
a forward thinker. And we both try to be very
44:43
proactive rather than reactive and things that we do and
44:46
decisions that we make. And so I said, how are we going
44:53
to raise our children? And he was not raised.
44:57
He was raised kind of around the Mormon church a little bit.
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And so he was not raised in the Christian Church.
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His grandmother was Methodist. Occasionally he went and did
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that. And so he wasn't super familiar
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with, I don't think he has much background in the Bible as I
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did. And so I said, OK, I'm going to
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be an example for you and for the kids.
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And we're going to just we're going to fight through this
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together. We're going to read, we're going
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to study, we're going to. But it all, it all came down to
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the kids. How were we going to raise our
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kids? And like you said earlier, when
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you were like, you know, a stay at home mom or a working mom and
45:32
you know the difference and oh, it's better to be a staying
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home. It's better to be a working it
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is you think the same. You know, I work all day 40
45:42
hours a week, but how am I raising my kids or I stay at
45:46
home and I'm a stay at home mom. How to raise my kids.
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Your thinking is the same. You still think what is best for
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my child? How do I want to raise my child?
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What faith is my going to child going to know growing up and my
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husband and I had that had that talk about that and I said, OK,
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we are going to teach our children and we are going to be
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examples for our children. And so I would say that that's
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when we really both of us dove into the word a lot more and
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decided that we can't just sit here and talk it.
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We have to do it too, right. And and God transforms us.
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The more you read, the more you study, the more he transforms
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your heart and and that's just kind of what he's doing.
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And that was the decision that we sat down.
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It was for our kids. I love, I love that you bring up
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your husband too, because you guys have been married for a
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number of years. But then on top of that, you've
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your parents 47 years of being married.
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You know, there's, I bring this up often on the podcast.
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I happen to find all these people that have been married
46:53
for a long time. And I, I don't think it's
46:55
coincidence, but it is really quite unfathomable nowadays that
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people stay married for 10 years, 152030.
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And then when you get into the like the 40s and the 50 years,
47:08
you're like, how in the world did you even get that far?
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Because most people can't even make it five years in marriage.
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I'm curious, what are, what are some of those things as you
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reflect back and seeing your parents through their marriage,
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what, what did you learn from them that really helped you
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strengthen your marriage to be where it is today?
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My parents talked a lot. My parents, they communicated
47:35
very well with each other. If I would go, I remember as a
47:39
kid, I'd go to my mom and well, dad said I could do this and
47:44
this and this. And she'd say, oh really?
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Yeah, Yeah, he did. Yeah.
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He said it was fine, it was no big deal.
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And. And she said no, he did not.
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Well, how do you know you've been in the living room and
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doing the dishes and cooking dinner all night?
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How do you know my mom was a stay at home mom?
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And I said, how do you even know?
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And she says, I just know. And I said, well, well, that's
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not that. You can't.
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There's no way. There's no way.
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And sure enough, wow, some form fashion way, by some miracle,
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they just so happened to had spoke and I missed it, You know,
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like how did I miss them going back to talk to each other?
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They don't talk to each other. Parents don't talk to each other
48:27
ever. You know, I think my kids still
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think that my husband and I don't speak to each other
48:31
because, well, dad said I could. No, he did not.
48:35
Communication. Communication was huge for my
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parents. They, my mom had her hobbies.
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She plays piano and she taught piano for numerous years, still
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teaches piano to this day, my kids included.
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And my dad, he did horses and he did the barn and, and he did the
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ranch and he was outdoorsy. And my mom, she took her, she
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took care of the home. But they talked, they had their
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moments. They would always have that
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quiet time and they'd always discuss on what was on their
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heart or their mind or, you know, and, and share that
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because I mean, you have to do that.
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There's a point where you strangle somebody, but talk
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about it, maybe work it out. You know, they obviously did.
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It's been 47 years. So they did a good job.
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But yeah, I would say that I said that that was probably
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their biggest thing and they supported us.
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They supported my sister and I. They were there for everything
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100% in if we wanted to, if we wanted to do basketball or we
49:41
wanted to cheerleading. So you wanted to cheer?
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OK, cool. Well, you know, a month in, I
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was like, this is awful. I don't want to cheer anymore.
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And too bad. You're in it for a year.
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You're going to finish it, you're not going to quit.
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They both equally gave. They agreed on their discipline.
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One didn't discipline more than the other.
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They had a vision for us. They wanted us to be successful.
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They wanted us to be independent.
50:07
And they had goals and plans and visions and, but they were on
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the same page and they did it together.
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And so I think that's very important.
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I feel like that that's what my husband and I try to do so.
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You know, it's, it's, it's so wonderful to hear that you and
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your husband, you know, you guys operate together so well, you
50:30
know, not just on your own, you know, but also together.
50:34
Like, like you were saying, you have an organization, 2 regions
50:38
that you guys run together for rodeo.
50:41
And we do, you know, there, there is a lot of communication
50:45
that takes place in any relationship, but a marriage, it
50:49
really is important for two people to come together and to
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speak so that you can define reality.
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And I love, I love kind of of your entire life, no matter
51:00
where you've been planted, you plant in that area and it seems
51:04
like you just blossom, you grow, you take those moments of
51:08
opportunity and you really try to make them the best that you
51:11
can. You know, for all of you guys
51:13
listening, I I have, I have one more question before we wrap up,
51:16
Tina. But for everyone listening right
51:18
now, I want to encourage you that there is a really great
51:22
opportunity that is coming up. You know, in this conversation,
51:26
we've talked about identity, we've talked about faith, we've
51:28
talked about courage, we've talked about hiding and
51:32
announcing from from the highest of heights.
51:36
There's so many different things that we've talked about and
51:39
we've talked about your growth, Tina, and if if you resonate
51:43
with a lot of the conversation that we're talking about, you
51:47
have to know about this opportunity that's coming up and
51:49
you have to know about it. Alpha Omega Leadership is
51:52
hosting the Masterpiece Women event.
51:54
It's coming up very soon. This isn't just another
51:58
conference. It's a faith centered leadership
52:01
experience designed to remind women who they are, strengthen
52:05
their confidence deep in their faith, and surround themselves
52:08
with an intentional community, which is what we were talking
52:10
about earlier about finding a community of women around you.
52:14
And this could be your opportunity.
52:16
If you're in Texas, you can travel there pretty easily.
52:19
If you're not in Texas, you should, you should go get a
52:22
plane ticket. It's not that hard.
52:25
Or if you know someone that is in Texas that needs to be
52:28
connected with a group of people that are intentional with like
52:31
mindedness, this is a great event to to check out.
52:35
Tickets are are intentionally priced to keep access
52:39
reasonable. So you can, you can go, you can
52:41
attend, but seating is limited. So I want to make sure that you
52:46
go check it out as soon as you can.
52:48
I'm going to have the link for the event in the show notes.
52:53
So make sure you go check those out.
52:55
But this has been such an amazing talk.
52:58
Tina, you, you are such a wealth of knowledge on so many
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different subjects. One of the things I kind of want
53:05
to wrap up here with is I've been asking a lot of people
53:08
who've been coming on the show recently of what does it mean to
53:10
be more than before? I'm curious for you, as we've
53:14
been talking about all these different things, I'm curious,
53:17
what does it mean for you to be more than before?
53:19
But also what will women attending this event?
53:23
How will they be more than before after they get through
53:27
it? What, what is going to be
53:28
different for the women that attend the event?
53:30
What's going to shift and change for them?
53:33
I think that a lot of women get lost in their day-to-day and
53:37
their work and their, the drama that whatever's going on with
53:42
their lives, the cooking, the cleaning, the busyness, and
53:46
instead of being told, hey, you need to work harder and and this
53:49
needs to happen and that needs to happen.
53:51
I think that women just really need a space that that they can
53:58
come to and say, this is who I already am.
54:03
I'm already this person. You don't have to tell me to
54:06
hustle harder or hustle more, but finding out and digging
54:11
deeper of who you already are. You are somebody you are worthy.
54:16
And sometimes we lose that. We lose that with the kids with
54:20
the busy schedules and things like that.
54:22
And so I think that this space and this event is going to show
54:28
them more of who they truly are. And a lot of people need that.
54:33
A lot of women need that. They need to be reminded of
54:35
that, you know, you are somebody, you are worthy.
54:38
And this, this event will definitely do that.
54:41
So good. So Tina, what does it mean for
54:44
you to be more than before? I'm somebody way different than
54:47
I was before. I'm somebody different than I
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was at 18, at 19, at 20. And being able to be more than
54:55
that is just going to set up my kids.
54:59
It's going to set up the people that I'm around, it's going to
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set up the people that I encounter.
55:03
And it's going to push them to want to be more to.
55:07
I haven't had a terrible past. I've had a wonderful past.
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But I also needed to grow a little bit.
55:13
Never now. Then we all need to find our
55:15
worth, need to dig deep and say we are worthy and we are
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somebody. And being able to do that now is
55:23
a lot more than what I could do before.
55:26
It was so good and it's it's so beautiful because what you just
55:30
said is exactly why we do the podcast here is because people
55:36
are living their lives with a bunch of dust on them, with dirt
55:39
on them. They're they're like these,
55:41
these little bones that we dig up in the ground and they just
55:45
need to brush off the dirt to reveal what is underneath such a
55:49
beautiful creation that God has created.
55:52
And so for all of you guys listening, make sure you go
55:55
check out this amazing event, the Masterpiece women's event.
55:58
It's coming up right around the corner.
56:00
It's going to be phenomenal. I can't go because, well, you
56:03
know, I can't go. But there is a men's event
56:07
that's going to be coming around the corner too in August.
56:09
So we're going to talk about that hopefully in the future
56:12
here in the podcast. But for all of you guys
56:14
listening, make sure you like subscribe.
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Share this with a gal that you know in your life.
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It needs a little bit of encouragement today.
56:20
Maybe. Maybe she needs a little bit of
56:21
dust brushed off of her. Until next time, be more, see
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more, and experience more than before.