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NBA Draft Betting Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fata Bridges of the podcast, part of
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Speaker 1: the Volume Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the
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Speaker 1: Action Network. This week, my co host, my companion, my compadre,
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Speaker 1: my BFF professional betters. Simon Hunter is still on they cation.
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Speaker 1: Yuck ended up with his relatives in Northern England, getting
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Speaker 1: his accent permanently on. But and the NBA season just
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Speaker 1: wrapped up, and it was thrilling, and it was exciting,
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Speaker 1: and it was awesome, and it was heartbreaking, and we're
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Speaker 1: wondering if we've crowned a dynasty. We're wondering how long
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Speaker 1: before Tyrese Halliburton comes back. But because the ANBA season
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Speaker 1: has mastered the month of June and into July, we
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Speaker 1: got so much good NBA stuff to talk about. NBA Draft.
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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, I'm joined by two of Action Network's finest
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Speaker 1: to discuss the NBA Draft. The event serves as the
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Speaker 1: official kickoff of the NBA offseason, the prelude to the
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Speaker 1: NBA Free agenc Madness to come from Action Networks NBA
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Speaker 1: Betting podcast Buckets. Welcome to the show, Brandon Anderson and
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Speaker 1: Brian Fonseca. Brian, I feel like you're making your maiden
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Speaker 1: voyage on the Favorites.
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Speaker 2: I definitely am. This is the first time that I'm here,
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Speaker 2: happy to be here, obviously, just wish it was after
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Speaker 2: a better Game seven.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a bummer. The Pacers made it
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Speaker 1: as much of a game as they could. That everything
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Speaker 1: about that Tyrese Haliburton images heartbreaking, and I think it's
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Speaker 1: going to stick with everybody in the finals. Brandon like
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Speaker 1: watching that game. I mean, we should do a quick
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Speaker 1: two minute recap just because it was. I never thought
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Speaker 1: that Pacers had a chance, but they've been so dynamic
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Speaker 1: and so such fighters all off season. Right up until
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Speaker 1: they were blown out, I thought they had a chance,
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Speaker 1: and I thought Oklahoma City was starting to sort of
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Speaker 1: spit the bit a little bit.
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Speaker 3: It felt like we were literally like two three minutes
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Speaker 3: away from like you know, you know, it's the middle
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Speaker 3: of the third quarter, and the Pacers are still right
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Speaker 3: in this thing, and like right about as we were
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Speaker 3: gonna get like it was gonna flip totally to like,
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Speaker 3: you cannot blow this, Oklahoma City, You're the favorite, You're
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Speaker 3: at home in Game seven, Halliburn's.
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Speaker 4: Out, you can't blow this.
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Speaker 3: And then they didn't blow it. But we were like
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Speaker 3: three minutes away. It felt like from you know, I
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Speaker 3: think Oklahoma City had like a nine to zero run
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Speaker 3: and kind of ripped it open. If that round goes
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Speaker 3: the other way, if the Pacers just hit a couple
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Speaker 3: of threes and get a stop or two, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We'll never know what would have happened. It sucks that
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Speaker 3: Tarrey's Halliburn the lasting image will have is of him
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Speaker 3: on the floor.
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Speaker 4: In that way.
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Speaker 3: There's so many images of Haliburn in these playoffs. We
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Speaker 3: got the choke image, we got the game winner in
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Speaker 3: Game one image, so many awesome moments, and it just
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Speaker 3: it's a terrible outcome both ways because we don't get
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Speaker 3: to see the payoff for the Cinderella Pacers thing, and
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Speaker 3: it kind of takes away from what it feels like
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Speaker 3: the thunder accomplished as like just an obvious not for me,
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Speaker 3: but an obvious asterisk. He sort of situation like, ah, well,
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Speaker 3: you know, the star got hurt. So you can just
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Speaker 3: smell the storyline coming where we kind of have to
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Speaker 3: talk down both sides of the equation.
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Speaker 4: Now disagree the bumber to finish.
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Speaker 1: Disagree, Brian, I completely disagree with just the latter part
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Speaker 1: of what Brandon said. I don't take anything away from
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Speaker 1: the Thunder. The Thunder very well might have won that game.
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Speaker 1: They were in that game. Tyre's Halliburton had not been
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Speaker 1: that effective in the game. When he came back from
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Speaker 1: the right calf strain, he was to play well. But
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that there is any asterisk on this
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Speaker 1: team at all. I thought, and I want your take
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Speaker 1: on that, but I actually thought Brandon was going to
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Speaker 1: say now in an East that to me was entirely
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Speaker 1: up for grabs going into next year, and the Pacers
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Speaker 1: looking like they could be really confident Eastern Conference defending
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Speaker 1: champions and possibly the favorites to win that conference. Now
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Speaker 1: that's up in the air. We don't get to see
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Speaker 1: the follow up of this team that grew and figured
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Speaker 1: out who they were and came together and was so
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Speaker 1: competitive and started to develop like a real reputation and
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Speaker 1: a fan base. That's what I'm bummed I don't get
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Speaker 1: to see the next year. But Brian agree or disagree. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't think Brandon Adderson is wrong and Chad Milman
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Speaker 1: is right.
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Speaker 2: I don't think this is an asterisk. No, Look, it's
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Speaker 2: a bummer, right, because for me, it's like Oklahoma City
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Speaker 2: was the best team from start to finish, So them
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Speaker 2: winning the title, it's something that everyone should be okay with,
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Speaker 2: like they were the best team, but we were still
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Speaker 2: rob of what looked like it was going to be
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Speaker 2: a fantastic Game seven. I don't know if Indiana would
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Speaker 2: have won, but like I entertained the possibility when I
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Speaker 2: saw Tyre's Halliburton make two threes from like thirty plus
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Speaker 2: feet out and score nine points within seven minutes and
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Speaker 2: have the Pacers go on an early run, and it
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, we had been saying on buckets leading
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Speaker 2: up to this, like this is the one team on
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Speaker 2: the road in a Game seven where they're the most
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Speaker 2: defiant team in the NBA and you have to look
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Speaker 2: at them and be like, yeah, they have a real
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Speaker 2: shot here because they just don't care about how they're
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Speaker 2: perceived or they're underdogs, or they shouldn't be here and
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Speaker 2: all these different things like that's how they got here
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Speaker 2: to begin with.
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Speaker 5: So to see it and like that was just disheartening.
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Speaker 2: I just wish it ended differently because I think, you know,
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Speaker 2: for the sake of like just basketball in the NBA Finals,
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Speaker 2: like we were about to see something.
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Speaker 5: Special, like a special finish.
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City still might have won, that could have been
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Speaker 2: the case, but Tyre's Halliburton was like on a tear
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Speaker 2: early on and then he got hurt, like just on
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Speaker 2: that play. Three ruptured achilles in the playoffs, two to
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Speaker 2: star players. Which is another thing that we can potentially
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Speaker 2: get to because I have some I have some thoughts,
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Speaker 2: probably not a little bit of them on whether or not,
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Speaker 2: you know, this should affect how we look at NBA
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Speaker 2: seasons and whether or not they should be shortened. But ultimately,
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Speaker 2: like I thought, we were robbed of what would have
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Speaker 2: been a great finish, and Indiana, to Brandon's point, did
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Speaker 2: have like there was a window there in the third quarter,
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Speaker 2: but you know, they just didn't have enough. Ultimately, TJ.
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Speaker 2: McConnell could only take you.
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Speaker 1: But so far, Meanwhile, within the span of twelve hours,
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Speaker 1: we all of a sudden have so much to talk
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Speaker 1: about regarding any early leans for potential title matchups, potential
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Speaker 1: Western Conference finals or Western Conference champions, Eastern Conference champions.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the East for a minute. Halliburton probably
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Speaker 1: not going to play next year, Dame probably not going
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Speaker 1: to play next year, Giannis, who knows where is going
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Speaker 1: to be, But the Bucks are clearly diminished. Tatum probably
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Speaker 1: not going to play next year. The Celtics, they were
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Speaker 1: already going to change their roster last week, the Magic
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Speaker 1: make the trade with the Memphis Grizzlies for Baine, and
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, people are legitimately talking about
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Speaker 1: the Magic as being one of those teams that could
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Speaker 1: be the team to beat in the Eastern Conference. Obviously
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Speaker 1: Daris Garland coming back from his toe surgery will be better,
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Speaker 1: and that team was diminished in the playoffs. What do
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Speaker 1: we do here? How do we handicap the Eastern Conference
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Speaker 1: right now when the teams that could have had the
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Speaker 1: best chance to win are now playing without their best players.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the favorites going into yesterday, we had basically co favorites,
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Speaker 3: three co favorites. I've never quite seen that in the NBA.
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Speaker 3: That's not how the NBA rolls with three co favorites.
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Speaker 3: It was Calvs, it was Paid, it was Knicks, and
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Speaker 3: Jim Turvey and I on Buckets did a podcast on
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Speaker 3: already kind of a look ahead to next year's conference finals.
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Speaker 3: We disagreed that the Knicks were in the triumvert of favorites.
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Speaker 3: We feel like the Knicks, they're a coach right now, Like,
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Speaker 3: let's see what the Knicks put together first, who will
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Speaker 3: put them in the mix? I do think the Calves
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Speaker 3: are the correct favorites. I know that they came up
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Speaker 3: short this year. I know that they fell, But shouldn't
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Speaker 3: we think about them losing the Pacers a little differently
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Speaker 3: now a month later after how good the Pacers have been.
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Speaker 3: Maybe not so embarrassing for a one seed Calves to
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Speaker 3: lose to that Pacers team. To me, you know we're
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Speaker 3: gonna naturally look down the list and say, okay, well
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Speaker 3: the Magic they got their new star, they had their trade.
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Speaker 3: They're the next young team to make the leap. How
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Speaker 3: about the Pistons. You know they were right there with
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Speaker 3: the Knicks in the first round. Maybe they're the team
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Speaker 3: to make the leap. For me, I don't necessarily want
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Speaker 3: an incremental growth from one of the young teams. Maybe
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Speaker 3: it will just be that I'd almost rather take a
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Speaker 3: shot if I'm gonna, you know, play a future this
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Speaker 3: far out, I'd rather take a shot at a wrap
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Speaker 3: or a blank canvas nets roster of just like somebody
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Speaker 3: that's like, hey, you know what those guys are.
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Speaker 4: The favorites talked about the blank canvas in the East.
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Speaker 4: We see that too.
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Speaker 3: How about we just go make a big move, Let's
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Speaker 3: make a splash. We weren't really trying to win right now,
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Speaker 3: but this conference is eminently winnable. Let's let's put our
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Speaker 3: chips in and go make a move. And maybe that's
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Speaker 3: Devin Booker now that the Suns are in a rebuilding mode.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it is Giannis on a new team, maybe he
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Speaker 3: stays in the East, Janis on whatever team in the
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Speaker 3: East with not Dame Lillard's Achilles. I'm interested, Like, give
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Speaker 3: me anybody, literally, any teammate to Yanis. Then that's not
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Speaker 3: Kyle Kuzma, to be clear, a real teammate to Yannis.
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Speaker 3: I'm interested, Like I am less interested in those middle
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Speaker 3: tier teams kind of edging up into the gap. I'm
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Speaker 3: more interested in a longer shot team that just like
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Speaker 3: finds the star, makes the big move, smells the blood
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Speaker 3: in the water we're seeing and it's like, let's let's
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Speaker 3: take a shot here.
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Speaker 1: I love that idea. Who do you think that? And
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Speaker 1: is like you just name raptors nets who of the
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Speaker 1: you know, middle the teams that could take the big leap,
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Speaker 1: is going to put themselves in the best position.
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Speaker 3: So I was intrigued by the Nets. We talked about
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Speaker 3: this briefly after the game last night. Matt Moore at
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Speaker 3: Buckets things, that's not the Nets. You think the Nets
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Speaker 3: are a year away. They're saving up for a year
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Speaker 3: from now free agency.
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Speaker 4: That can change.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you kind of just shift your odds when there's
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Speaker 3: this big gap year.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give them credit on that.
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to go with the Raptors as a
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Speaker 3: team that quietly, from like February forward, was like a
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Speaker 3: top three to five defense in the NBA, even though
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Speaker 3: they were just kind of off the radar totally. They
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Speaker 3: just they have this weird mix of players that don't
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Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. I don't really feel like
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Speaker 3: we know what Messiah Jerry is doing building the team,
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Speaker 3: but the weird mix of players make for interesting trade targets.
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Speaker 3: Is it brandon Ingram, is it Emmanuel Quickly?
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Speaker 4: Is it RJ? Barrett? Teams like these dudes.
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Speaker 3: I don't really love these dudes, but teams do, and
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Speaker 3: that means okay, maybe that was the Kevin Durant package,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't Maybe that's the Jannis package Jonason, Toronto international player.
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Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. I think that's a real possibility there. The
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Speaker 3: jury's pulled off big moves before we saw the Cly
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Speaker 3: trade and then boom, they win a championship right after that.
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Speaker 3: So I do think there's some intrigue, some roster intrigue
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Speaker 3: of Okay, sub prect two or three of the guys
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Speaker 3: for a star. There's still a few other guys on
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Speaker 3: the roster there, and I don't really know what becomes
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Speaker 3: of the team, but I can imagine a bigger leap
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Speaker 3: rather than incremental one. So I'll say Raptors as just
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Speaker 3: like a shot in the dark team right now.
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Speaker 1: All right, Brian. Yesterday Kevin Durant traded to the Rockets
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Speaker 1: and finding out well being interviewed on stage at Fanatics Fast,
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Speaker 1: which to me was just choice content forget. You just
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Speaker 1: never get. This is the day and age we're in,
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Speaker 1: though everything is filmed, everything in this event. You got
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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant on stage and in the middle of a question,
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Speaker 1: the interviewer is starting to hear fans yell Durant was
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Speaker 1: just traded to the Rockets, and that's how the news
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Speaker 1: is being broken. That's the world we're living in right now.
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Speaker 1: That catapults the Rockets up the Eastern the Western Conference
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Speaker 1: behind the thunder Now and shortest odds over reaction.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Rockets already had in elite defense, and
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Speaker 2: now they're getting the one thing that they really needed
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Speaker 2: was a shot creator.
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Speaker 5: I have my concerns.
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Speaker 2: I have my concerns about Kevin Durant turning thirty seven
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Speaker 2: in September and potentially leading this team to the Western
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Speaker 2: Conference championship against what we just saw in Oklahoma City.
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Speaker 2: But it's very hard to repeat, especially now because the
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Speaker 2: long grueling seasons.
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Speaker 5: Are even longer and more grueling.
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Speaker 2: Because the game is just faster and Oklahoma City is
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Speaker 2: very young. But you're one injury away from things just
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Speaker 2: changing like that, as we've seen from other teams. I
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Speaker 2: don't think it's an overreaction to have Houston second. They
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Speaker 2: were the second seed, although many of us didn't believe
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Speaker 2: they would win in the first round because Golden State
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Speaker 2: on the other side had Steph Curry added Jimmy Butler,
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Speaker 2: still have Draymond Green, Steve Kerr, who's been an institution
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Speaker 2: there for many years, but now with Houston, it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: you're getting Kevin Durant to take on the Jalen Green role.
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Speaker 2: I think that Brandon's going to be.
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Speaker 5: With me on this.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a huge upgrade. The concern I think
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Speaker 2: is though health. Is Kevin Durant gonna play sixty two games,
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Speaker 2: seventy games, forty eight games? And can they get by
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Speaker 2: in the regular season if he's limited. That leads us
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Speaker 2: to Amen Thompson, who some of us believe is a
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Speaker 2: potential star, a potential All Star, and somebody who's gonna
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Speaker 2: get a lot of buzz for different diferent types of
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Speaker 2: awards and honors moving forward. Is this an opportunity for
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Speaker 2: him to assume that role in the event that Kevin
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Speaker 2: Durant can for eighty two games, which he probably won't
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Speaker 2: be able to, that's an unrealistic request.
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Speaker 5: And also for Amen Thompson, can.
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Speaker 2: He just develop more because he's only still in his
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Speaker 2: early to mid twenties, he's only a few years in
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Speaker 2: the league. He's had some injury stuff that he's had
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Speaker 2: to overcome, so the progress hasn't always been linear. But
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Speaker 2: he's somebody to look to and then this is the
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Speaker 2: thing that I like about Houston and with some of
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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference teams that Brandon was talking about, you
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Speaker 2: have to look at when it pertains to futures, you
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Speaker 2: have to look at teams and how they're built from
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Speaker 2: a salary component. Because Houston has tradable contracts, they just
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Speaker 2: cast in two of them for this deal with Jalen
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Speaker 2: Green and with Dylan Brooks to be able to reach
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Speaker 2: that salary number that Kevin Durant has. So the same
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Speaker 2: thing could be said for Fred van Vliet, and they
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Speaker 2: still have all their young pieces. They didn't move any
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Speaker 2: one of them, So there's room for Houston to make
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Speaker 2: another move. And if they're going to be aggressive and
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Speaker 2: ambitious like this, there's reasons to think that it's not
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Speaker 2: going to stop here at Kevin Durant.
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Speaker 1: So what do you think that starting line up for
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Speaker 1: Houston looks like? Is Fred van Vliet on the team?
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Speaker 1: Is it Reed Shepherd who is starting in place of
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Speaker 1: Fred Van Vliet. Who's who's starting in place of Jalen Green?
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Speaker 1: Is it Jabari Smith? Is it somebody else They've got,
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Speaker 1: like you said, so much young talent. Name me the
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Speaker 1: starting five for Houston Brandon, So.
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Speaker 3: I was hoping going to Brian for that one on
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Speaker 3: top of Brian nambe the starting five for Houston.
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Speaker 2: Too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 2: I think maybe that maybe the two is not currently
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Speaker 2: on the roster, And as much as we like Reach
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Speaker 2: Shepherd's potential, I don't know if I thrust him into
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Speaker 2: that role yet. I would look at Fred van Vliet.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm and Thompson just slides to the two for now,
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Speaker 2: and then you have Jabari Smith, Kevin Durant, and Alprin Shangoun.
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Speaker 2: But based on this question, Chad like, I don't think
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Speaker 2: the roster has done yet.
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Speaker 5: I think Houston goes out and.
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Speaker 2: Does something else and adds somebody who's different to fill
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Speaker 2: that Jalen green spot in terms of like somebody who's
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Speaker 2: more of a defender, a catch and shoot guy, not
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Speaker 2: Kentavious Caldwell Pope, but conceptually somebody like that. Hell, if
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Speaker 2: I were them, I would be calling and I would
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Speaker 2: be calling Boston and being like, Hey, what do you
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Speaker 2: want for Derek White? Could we come? Could we actually
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Speaker 2: do like a Derek White sort of deal, because that
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Speaker 2: would make a lot of sense conceptually. That's the kind
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Speaker 2: of two guard that I would want somebody who can
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Speaker 2: shoot threes, somebody who could defend, and somebody who doesn't
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Speaker 2: need the ball a ton to be effective.
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Speaker 1: So would you even bet Houston at two in the
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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference or do you think Golden State is a
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Speaker 1: better bet given how they played against them and what
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Speaker 1: this team could have done is steph hadn't been injured.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a tough spot with the Rockets
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Speaker 3: because I think that I think two things can be true.
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Speaker 3: I think they are right to be the second favorite
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Speaker 3: in the West, but I don't think that necessarily makes
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Speaker 3: them betible at that spot either. Like they again, they
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Speaker 3: were the two seat already this year. But if you
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Speaker 3: took Houston and put them into the East, considering the
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Speaker 3: East picture we have talked about, they're the big favor,
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Speaker 3: like everybody wants a piece of Houston then, but that
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Speaker 3: would be Triuvia. Put the Lakers in the East as well,
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Speaker 3: and you got Luca and Lebron, that maybe would be truviy,
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Speaker 3: but the Warriors in the East. You could make that
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Speaker 3: case for a bunch of East teams. It's not the
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Speaker 3: East though, And in particular, you're gonna have to beat
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Speaker 3: the Thunder. Probably we do know that since twenty nineteen forward,
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Speaker 3: the defending NBA champions have not made the following conference finals.
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Speaker 4: So maybe we should.
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Speaker 3: Be betting Houston, because if it's not the Thunder, maybe
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Speaker 3: it's open. But for right now, the Thunder to me
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Speaker 3: are the team that we might have actually just seen
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Speaker 3: the worst version of this team to come over the
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Speaker 3: next few years. This is such a young Thunder squad.
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Speaker 3: Carusoe and Hartenstein are the veterans on this team, and
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Speaker 3: they're like around thirty, Like they're still fine and not
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Speaker 3: necessarily going anywhere. J Dubbs still young, getting better. Chat's
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Speaker 3: still young, not a great Finals should be getting better.
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Speaker 3: We saw both of those guys get better in series
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Speaker 3: and throughout the playoffs. Shay is still just kind of
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Speaker 3: in the entering his prime stage. Probably will still get
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Speaker 3: a little better. He still can clean up the handle
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Speaker 3: a little bit, clean up the passing. To me, I
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Speaker 3: can't invest in Houston futures right now because I do
18:27
Speaker 3: think that the floor will keep them there in the
18:29
Speaker 3: regular season, except that Durant will miss some time so
18:32
Speaker 3: they'll move a little bit. But to me, it might
18:35
Speaker 3: almost be that they're kind of buying down the price
18:37
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma City a little bit. The gap from OKC
18:41
Speaker 3: to Houston in the regular season may not be so huge,
18:44
Speaker 3: but in a playoff series, it still was a pretty
18:47
Speaker 3: wide gap. And to me, there's a lot of comparison
18:51
Speaker 3: about these Thunder that just won the title to the
18:53
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen Warriors. We saw what the Warriors became after that,
18:59
Speaker 3: seventy three and nine after that, and they did not
19:01
Speaker 3: win the title. The injuries happen, lebron happened, I understand,
19:06
Speaker 3: but this might have been the bad version of the
19:10
Speaker 3: Thunder compared to what still to come. So I think
19:13
Speaker 3: that the Thunder might just be the team to be
19:16
Speaker 3: in the in the West still, even though the Rockets
19:18
Speaker 3: are the team that's gonna catch all the attention with
19:20
Speaker 3: Durant on the roster now.
19:22
Speaker 1: All right, So the team's chasing who want to be
19:24
Speaker 1: like the Thunder. They want to be like the Pacers.
19:27
Speaker 1: They want to develop through the draft, they want to
19:30
Speaker 1: get young players on good deals. Obviously the Mavericks one
19:34
Speaker 1: of those teams. They blew everything up with Luca. They
19:37
Speaker 1: get lucky. They've now got the opportunity to draft Cooper Flag.
19:41
Speaker 1: He will be the number one overall pick. If you
19:45
Speaker 1: had a scatter report for Cooper Flag, Brian or Brandon,
19:50
Speaker 1: whoever would like to go first. I don't want to,
19:51
Speaker 1: you know, I want to share the ball off between
19:53
Speaker 1: you two. Do you have a comp do you have
19:57
Speaker 1: an assessment based on past number one picks? Brandon will
20:03
Speaker 1: start with you.
20:06
Speaker 3: I think that Cooper Flag is the clear number one
20:09
Speaker 3: pick and also simultaneously, maybe not quite the generational guy
20:15
Speaker 3: that he's being hyped as as this incredible next American MVP.
20:20
Speaker 4: Surefire superstar.
20:22
Speaker 3: I would love a world where Cooper Flag could be
20:25
Speaker 3: my second guy on the team, and that might sound slanderous.
20:29
Speaker 4: He's awesome.
20:30
Speaker 3: He does so many things while the floor is incredibly high.
20:33
Speaker 3: He's an awesome defender. He can score so many ways.
20:37
Speaker 3: He's he can use both hands to finish. I don't
20:40
Speaker 3: know if I'm quite there yet on the shot. I
20:42
Speaker 3: think he needs to work on it a little bit.
20:43
Speaker 3: I don't know if that will ever be a knockdown
20:45
Speaker 3: skill for him. I don't know that I quite think
20:48
Speaker 3: he is like a certainly not an A plus NBA athlete.
20:50
Speaker 3: I think he's more of like a B minus NBA athlete.
20:53
Speaker 3: I only it will hold him back. But I don't
20:55
Speaker 3: know if I see superstar MVP athleticism, which in the NBA,
21:01
Speaker 3: size and athleticism are going to rule the day, and
21:03
Speaker 3: you can't develop those things, you either are or you
21:05
Speaker 3: are not. To me, I look at him and I
21:09
Speaker 3: see a guy that I like to camp. Here is
21:12
Speaker 3: Andre Kirlenko from the Jazz a couple decades ago, who
21:15
Speaker 3: sounds like a mean comp. I thought our Kielinka was awesome,
21:18
Speaker 3: Like I had him Top three and MDB ballot one
21:20
Speaker 3: year as just a jackknife. Do everything I can initiate
21:24
Speaker 3: the offense. To me, that's Cooper's biggest talent for his
21:27
Speaker 3: size is to be able to have the ball and
21:30
Speaker 3: create for others with his size, with the scoring threat,
21:33
Speaker 3: with his defense. It's the all around game. It's it's
21:36
Speaker 3: maybe Franz Wagner, maybe Franz plus, it's maybe Gordon Hayward plus.
21:42
Speaker 3: I know I'm doing all the White comps. Here's my
21:45
Speaker 3: other comp. What if you took Lebron James and all
21:48
Speaker 3: the stuff that he's good at, all the rounded game
21:50
Speaker 3: and all the ways of seeing the game, and then
21:53
Speaker 3: you're stuck him in a lanky white teenager from Maine.
21:56
Speaker 3: What if you did that. That's the comp That's what
21:58
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag is and I mean all the good parts
22:01
Speaker 3: of that, but the limiting part also, And I think
22:03
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a very good player, but not necessarily
22:06
Speaker 3: an MVP player to me.
22:09
Speaker 1: All Right, So, Brian, the Spurs are number two. Super
22:13
Speaker 1: exciting team between Castle, dieron Fox Wenby when he's back,
22:20
Speaker 1: they can draft. They're going to be able to draft
22:22
Speaker 1: Dylan Harper, who a lot of people peg to be
22:25
Speaker 1: an All Star. Flag and Harper are probably the two
22:28
Speaker 1: prospects people are most excited about in this draft. Can
22:33
Speaker 1: they turn themselves into an OKC team in the next
22:36
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty four.
22:37
Speaker 2: Months, Well, if Victor won Monyam is healthy, I think
22:41
Speaker 2: anything is possible kind of for that team. Speaking of
22:45
Speaker 2: a team like Houston who has all their young guys,
22:47
Speaker 2: Spurs have their young guys like they just drafted the
22:50
Speaker 2: rookie of the year. After drafting the rookie of the year.
22:53
Speaker 2: They have Stefan Castle, who we project is going to
22:55
Speaker 2: be really good, who people want to compare to a
22:58
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday type for example. And if he's that, that's
23:01
Speaker 2: an enormous steal. That's an enormous win. That's someone who
23:04
Speaker 2: you know could be a number three on a championship team.
23:06
Speaker 2: We clearly all expect, if healthy, which is the key
23:09
Speaker 2: Victor Webba Yama to be that number one. So it's
23:11
Speaker 2: about filling out the rest of the roster and going
23:15
Speaker 2: shopping with maybe a Keldon Johnson or a Devin Vessel
23:18
Speaker 2: and trying to see what you can get for some
23:19
Speaker 2: of those guys if you want to like trade up.
23:22
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, they have Daron Fox, who
23:24
Speaker 2: presumably would be your number two because they landed him
23:27
Speaker 2: last year. Dylan Harper is interesting. I wonder how he'd fit.
23:31
Speaker 2: It does feel like it is trending that way. I
23:34
Speaker 2: have my questions about the entire records experience last year,
23:38
Speaker 2: just because not just not making the NCAA tournament with
23:41
Speaker 2: you know, two of the top guys, but also like
23:44
Speaker 2: I just feel like, if you're that.
23:46
Speaker 5: Good, should probably win a little bit more.
23:48
Speaker 2: Now, stats don't always translate, Like we have a lot
23:51
Speaker 2: of examples of guys who aren't that productive in college
23:54
Speaker 2: and end up being more productive in the pros, like
23:55
Speaker 2: a Stefan Castle, like Russell Westbrook, like a zach Lavine.
23:58
Speaker 2: But there are examples the other way where guys put
24:01
Speaker 2: up big numbers in college, like a Ben Simmons, like
24:04
Speaker 2: Markel Foltz, it doesn't really mean anything. And those are
24:07
Speaker 2: two of the guys that people are probably scared of
24:10
Speaker 2: as it pertains to these Rutgers guys. Ace Bailey being
24:13
Speaker 2: the other one, and I think he scares more people
24:15
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. I think Harper feels like a safe
24:18
Speaker 2: number two pick. I don't think I'm as high on
24:22
Speaker 2: him as some of the others, Like I really like VJ. Edgecomb,
24:25
Speaker 2: for example. He's somebody who's gonna be picked maybe right
24:28
Speaker 2: after Harper. He's favored to go three, he might go fourth.
24:31
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely a top five pick. He's a
24:33
Speaker 2: guy that I'm really excited about. I like Trey Johnson
24:36
Speaker 2: a lot, like there are other guys in this draft
24:38
Speaker 2: that excite me more long term than Harper, But I
24:41
Speaker 2: still think Harper is going to be really good. But
24:43
Speaker 2: it feels like a safe number two overall pick. And
24:46
Speaker 2: for the Spurs, I don't think they need to sort.
24:48
Speaker 5: Of reinvent the wheel here.
24:49
Speaker 2: I just think they need to hit on somebody to
24:52
Speaker 2: continue to add to what they.
24:53
Speaker 1: Have, so you don't think trading out of that spot
25:00
Speaker 1: if they're not convinced on Dylan Harper and trying to
25:03
Speaker 1: get someone who is a veteran that has a contract
25:08
Speaker 1: that plays to what fits within their construct is now
25:13
Speaker 1: and getting future picks because they will be giving up
25:16
Speaker 1: a number two overall pick is a better play. Oh.
25:21
Speaker 2: I would absolutely entertain moving number two if I'm the Spurs.
25:24
Speaker 2: If I'm the Spurs and I want to get ambitious
25:26
Speaker 2: and really look at the Western Conference, like, Okay, we
25:28
Speaker 2: have Victor Wembanyama. We can go to war with him
25:31
Speaker 2: and de Aaron Fox and Stefan Castle and everything else
25:33
Speaker 2: we have, Like, yeah, I would entertain moving off of
25:37
Speaker 2: number two. Frankly, I thought that if Yiannis was on
25:39
Speaker 2: the table, that's something that they can dangle in front
25:42
Speaker 2: of Hookey and be like, hey, Giannis Wenby, Darren Fox,
25:47
Speaker 2: Stefan Castle, if he survives that trade, like the Spurs
25:50
Speaker 2: still have draft picks to play with. So yeah, I
25:52
Speaker 2: would definitely entertain moving off number two if if there's
25:55
Speaker 2: a package worthy, especially because there are things that they
26:00
Speaker 2: can do now that Victor woman Yama is still on
26:03
Speaker 2: his rookie contract and is not going to hit an
26:06
Speaker 2: extension until that kicks in a couple of years from now,
26:09
Speaker 2: so they have time to take in some salary, some
26:11
Speaker 2: big salary before Wemby ends up getting his inevitable MAX extension.
26:16
Speaker 1: All right, well, look, you mentioned the magic player who's
26:18
Speaker 1: sort of the folk rum on which all this is
26:23
Speaker 1: going to turn, And that's as Bailey, who has been
26:26
Speaker 1: weird and animatic and making demands of teams when he
26:32
Speaker 1: has been the guy of those three players at the
26:34
Speaker 1: top of the board who people had the most questions about,
26:38
Speaker 1: has not visited anybody yet most people expected him to
26:43
Speaker 1: be the consensus number three. Now people thinking that it
26:47
Speaker 1: may be VJ. Edgecombe, and that kN K. Nipple is
26:51
Speaker 1: the guy who could go four. Trey Johnson you mentioned him,
26:54
Speaker 1: could go five, and a lot of people now starting
26:56
Speaker 1: to mock he's Bailey going sixth to Washington? And because
27:03
Speaker 1: is it this guy's game, is it this guy's attitude,
27:06
Speaker 1: is it the way he's managing the process? I know
27:08
Speaker 1: his father is intimately involved, and how Dad's always fucked
27:12
Speaker 1: things up. So, like Brandon, if you're making a bet
27:17
Speaker 1: on who the number three pick is gonna be Do
27:20
Speaker 1: we look at all this as a smoke screen? Are
27:22
Speaker 1: we off Ace Bailey going to the sixers?
27:25
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a smoke screen. I think Ace
27:28
Speaker 3: Bailey thinks it's all very real. I think Ace Bailey
27:31
Speaker 3: seems to want to fall out of the top five
27:34
Speaker 3: and get to a spot where he can get a
27:36
Speaker 3: few more shots up. This is the guy just wants
27:38
Speaker 3: to shoot some jumpers, right. He just wants to just
27:41
Speaker 3: go be a hooper. This is a hooper at heart,
27:43
Speaker 3: and he wants to hoop with the wizards who need
27:46
Speaker 3: a hooper. He wants to hoop with the nuts, who
27:48
Speaker 3: we just talked about as a blank slate. That sounds
27:51
Speaker 3: more appealing to me if I just want can I
27:53
Speaker 3: be Cam Thomas?
27:54
Speaker 4: Great, I'll get twenty.
27:56
Speaker 3: Points a game like he might become a pretty interesting
27:59
Speaker 3: Rookie Year sort of pick if he falls to one
28:01
Speaker 3: of those teams. Rookie of Year odds are up right now,
28:04
Speaker 3: by the way, at one book already Cooper flag opened
28:07
Speaker 3: at minus four hundred to be the Rookie of the Year.
28:09
Speaker 3: That is yeah, Brian's face does it all. That's an
28:11
Speaker 3: absurd number of over confidence in Cooper Flag. I'll give
28:16
Speaker 3: you a Rutgers hot take here. I watch a lot
28:18
Speaker 3: of Rutgers ball this year. Obviously you need to because
28:21
Speaker 3: both Harper and Bailey, and I was like, man, I'm
28:23
Speaker 3: out on Bailey. Bailey's not good. This is not my
28:26
Speaker 3: style of guy. Here's my Ruckers hot take. I think
28:30
Speaker 3: Dylan Harper if you could give me odds right now
28:33
Speaker 3: on to win an MVP someday, I will fade Cooper
28:37
Speaker 3: Flags odds and I would bet Dylan Harper's odds. I
28:39
Speaker 3: think Dylan Harper has a higher ceiling of MVP level
28:43
Speaker 3: of a James Harden type player of the way we
28:45
Speaker 3: choose MVPs these days, of what he would do. What's
28:49
Speaker 3: weird is that, after all my watching of Rutgers and
28:53
Speaker 3: all my hating of Ace Bailey and the style of
28:55
Speaker 3: playery is like a Wiggins type player, an MPJ Harrison Barnes.
29:01
Speaker 4: Who are these guys? They're all like.
29:03
Speaker 3: Top three recruits that sucked for an entire NBA career
29:06
Speaker 3: and then eventually we're like, well, you kind of became
29:09
Speaker 3: a pretty solid fourth role player on a winning team
29:13
Speaker 3: after we paid you three hundred million dollars to develop
29:16
Speaker 3: into that, and you're like, well, I guess I'm not
29:17
Speaker 3: the number one player. Maybe I should rebound and defend
29:20
Speaker 3: a little bit. And you eventually became that. But was
29:23
Speaker 3: it on your initial team that drafted you? Was it
29:25
Speaker 3: in our initial investment of one hundred million dollars?
29:27
Speaker 2: Not?
29:28
Speaker 4: Really?
29:29
Speaker 3: All that said, those are good players, those are players
29:32
Speaker 3: on champions. Wiggins won a championship, NBJA won a championship.
29:36
Speaker 3: A different sort of player, Aaron Gordon was a number
29:39
Speaker 3: one in Orlando, then went to Denver and became a
29:42
Speaker 3: different version and became a champion. And this guy that
29:45
Speaker 3: we love, I think, to me, I really like j Edgecum,
29:50
Speaker 3: I really like con K Nipple. Shooting guards are only
29:53
Speaker 3: so valuable. Ace Bailey's upside of what he could be
29:58
Speaker 3: if that jumper is is wet as it looks, if
30:01
Speaker 3: I think there's some defensive upside and potential there. We
30:04
Speaker 3: saw him make some nice blocks and steal some playmaking.
30:08
Speaker 3: I personally, after all that, still have Bailey top four
30:12
Speaker 3: on my draft board. Even though I don't even like
30:15
Speaker 3: the idea of what he is. I think he's a
30:17
Speaker 3: perfect fit in Philadelphia. They need a shooter with size
30:22
Speaker 3: VJ and Kahn are shooting guards. This is a Cooper
30:25
Speaker 3: Flag size player in Ace Bailey, and I'll come back
30:29
Speaker 3: all around. I will be looking to invest in the
30:33
Speaker 3: sixers at three. Still drafting Ace Bailey. I'm not gonna
30:37
Speaker 3: do it yet because this is effectively number one pick.
30:39
Speaker 3: We know one and two, and we've seen the odds
30:42
Speaker 3: swing wildly in like twenty four hours before the draft.
30:46
Speaker 3: Darryl Moury don't care what you think about it. Darryl
30:49
Speaker 3: Moury doesn't care if you canceled your workouts. Daryl Moury's
30:52
Speaker 3: gonna do whatever he feels like it. And if he
30:55
Speaker 3: feels like you're the guy his team wants to have,
30:57
Speaker 3: he's gonna draft you and let you figure it out later.
31:00
Speaker 3: So I think Darryl Moury might after all that, still
31:03
Speaker 3: think Ace is the guy. And if we can get
31:05
Speaker 3: like he's a four hundred plus four hundred odds now,
31:09
Speaker 3: if I can get like a past five six hundred,
31:11
Speaker 3: the ten to one on okay, we've all decided it's VJ.
31:15
Speaker 3: Let me swerve the way I bet the draft is swerving.
31:18
Speaker 3: I'll bet on uncertainty. I still think Aces and play
31:20
Speaker 3: at three, all right?
31:22
Speaker 1: Well, you also just gave me a hot take here
31:24
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen with Ace Bailey and where
31:27
Speaker 1: he best belongs and also who has the higher upsides
31:31
Speaker 1: as VP candidates in the future. Brian, I know you
31:38
Speaker 1: have a hot take, and I'm actually incredibly interested in
31:41
Speaker 1: it because the player you're talking about not only represents
31:45
Speaker 1: the college where my younger son is about to go,
31:48
Speaker 1: so we paid a lot of attention to this kid,
31:50
Speaker 1: but also he is mocked to be going to the
31:53
Speaker 1: team that I love the most, the Chicago Bulls. Give
31:57
Speaker 1: me your hot take.
32:01
Speaker 2: Okay, who is are we talking about Derek Queen specifically?
32:05
Speaker 5: Is that what we're talking about? Yes, just to make sure.
32:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek Queen, who right now is in New York
32:12
Speaker 2: City obviously get ready for the draft. I'm very intrigued
32:16
Speaker 2: by his game. I think he's gonna be either one
32:18
Speaker 2: of the best players in this draft or somebody who's
32:21
Speaker 2: out of the league in like five six years. So
32:24
Speaker 2: the problem is with centers who can score, which he can.
32:29
Speaker 2: He is one of the better offensive games for a
32:32
Speaker 2: big man in this draft. Teams can't always figure out
32:37
Speaker 2: what to do with these guys we saw.
32:39
Speaker 5: I remember vividly.
32:41
Speaker 2: This is ten years ago, but jialil okafor happened right.
32:45
Speaker 2: This is somebody who came into the league. He was
32:46
Speaker 2: a bucket down low. He can score on anybody. And
32:50
Speaker 2: then three years later, after being a Rookie of the
32:52
Speaker 2: Year contender, was getting traded with Nick Stauskis for a
32:56
Speaker 2: second round pick and Trevor Booker to the nets where
32:59
Speaker 2: he just sat and didn't nothing for the duration of
33:02
Speaker 2: a few months before just flatlining the rest of his
33:06
Speaker 2: career and we've barely seen him since. I think he
33:08
Speaker 2: made a cameo with like the Fort Wayne team in
33:11
Speaker 2: the G League this year, and he's been in the
33:14
Speaker 2: G League. He played I think for the Nigeria national team,
33:17
Speaker 2: like lot's really happened there. I think with Derek Queen,
33:20
Speaker 2: though I don't know if he's alprin Shngun two point zero.
33:24
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a better version of that,
33:26
Speaker 2: but he can be something. He needs to go to
33:29
Speaker 2: the right team. This is something we don't talk about
33:31
Speaker 2: enough with draft picks. These guys have to go to
33:34
Speaker 2: the right environments. Often I worry about anyone who's.
33:37
Speaker 5: Going to Washington for example.
33:39
Speaker 2: No disrespect to anyone who roots for the Wizards, and
33:41
Speaker 2: I do think they have some players like I like
33:43
Speaker 2: Bala Kulabali, I like Alex Sar, But the right guy
33:47
Speaker 2: has to go there. And I think with Derek Queen,
33:50
Speaker 2: if he goes to like the Chicago Bulls, for example,
33:53
Speaker 2: I would like to see them move Nko, that's gonna
33:56
Speaker 2: be the case because it's like, all right, what are
33:58
Speaker 2: we doing If you have both of them there and
34:01
Speaker 2: Derek Queen's backing up the Kolavucevich like that doesn't make
34:04
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And also do I trust the
34:06
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls in terms of development no offense, I mean,
34:09
Speaker 2: they haven't had a great track record as of late.
34:11
Speaker 2: They look like they're about to pay Josh getting a
34:12
Speaker 2: lot of money too, so we'll see what that happens there.
34:14
Speaker 2: But with Derrek Queen, I think he needs to be
34:17
Speaker 2: in an environment where he his offensive game is embraced.
34:21
Speaker 2: Don't try to make him just the pick and roll guy.
34:23
Speaker 2: He's somebody who can do things with the ball. I
34:25
Speaker 2: think there's some playmaking potential in there, even at the
34:28
Speaker 2: next level. But he's somebody who can create. And I
34:33
Speaker 2: for a big man, and I do wonder is he
34:35
Speaker 2: going to be pigeonholed as somebody who plays eighteen minutes
34:38
Speaker 2: a game and is like a fantasy stud gets like
34:41
Speaker 2: twelve and six and then go sit down. Or is
34:44
Speaker 2: he somebody that is going to be nurtured and developed,
34:46
Speaker 2: probably like an alprin Shngoun and see his offensive game
34:50
Speaker 2: like actually gets at the next level. So I don't
34:52
Speaker 2: know if Chicago's the right environment unless you're telling me, hey,
34:55
Speaker 2: the Kolovich can go somewhere else, or can he go
34:59
Speaker 2: to a different type Brandon NASA's head vigorously, or can
35:03
Speaker 2: he go to another team Like I know Charlotte is
35:06
Speaker 2: a weird landing spot. I do think Charlotte might have
35:10
Speaker 2: the right coach finally, but they still have to get
35:12
Speaker 2: the right mix of players. Like I have questions about
35:15
Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball, I have questions about Brandon Miller, and I
35:17
Speaker 2: bring them up because Charlotte could sneakily be a trade
35:19
Speaker 2: back candidate. So do they go back in the top
35:22
Speaker 2: ten and maybe get the Derek Queen if they're because
35:26
Speaker 2: the Mark Williams thing happened, and it's like, are they
35:29
Speaker 2: going to try to move off Mark Williams again because
35:32
Speaker 2: he was almost a Laker that one time that we
35:34
Speaker 2: seemingly all forgot. So I think Derek Queen could either
35:38
Speaker 2: be really good or just somebody who's just shoved out
35:40
Speaker 2: the league. Because teams can't figure out what to do
35:43
Speaker 2: with an offensive minded center anymore. Unless they can shoot
35:46
Speaker 2: threes at a great rate or can just get like
35:49
Speaker 2: seven eight assists per game or something along those lines,
35:51
Speaker 2: they'll like almost have to be special. And I think
35:53
Speaker 2: there's room for somebody who can create their own offense
35:57
Speaker 2: on the interior, scoring the post, so to speak, but
36:00
Speaker 2: could also be a little bit of a hub, even
36:02
Speaker 2: if it's just for stretches of a game.
36:04
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, you mentioned Charlotte potentially trading back, which
36:08
Speaker 1: would be sort of a bold prediction for Draft night.
36:10
Speaker 1: Brand And I'm going to give you the last word.
36:13
Speaker 1: Give me your bold predictions for NBA Draft Night.
36:18
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a bold bet that you can
36:20
Speaker 3: make right now for NBA Draft Night. We light at
36:23
Speaker 3: the top with the Kevin Durant trade. In that trade,
36:27
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns traded away Kevin Durant. They got back
36:30
Speaker 3: some guys I don't really like very much, but they
36:32
Speaker 3: also got back at draft pick. They got the number
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Speaker 3: ten pick, and the Sons have not had a number
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Speaker 3: ten pick. Have the Suns been paying attention to the
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Speaker 3: guys being drafted in the top ten? To have the
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Speaker 3: scouts even been like ready for who might be that
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Speaker 3: guy in the top ten? You know who's guy that
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Speaker 3: the Sons do know a lot about. Matt Ishbiah, the
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Speaker 3: owner that likes to be involved, played a little basketball
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Speaker 3: in college with Jason Richardson. You want a championship with
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Speaker 3: Jason Richardson. Jason Richardson is the father of Jace Richardson.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps we know that about him. Jace Richardson to be
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Speaker 3: the number ten pick. I bet it in the Action
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Speaker 3: app last night forty to one odds. Do I think
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Speaker 3: he should be the number ten pick? Probably not, but
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Speaker 3: I think it's in range. I have Jace Lottery on
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Speaker 3: my board that's in arrange well enough. Maybe the scouts
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Speaker 3: aren't totally ready yet, or maybe Madishpia is ready and
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Speaker 3: he's like, you know what, we're starting over, but we're
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Speaker 3: starting over with my guy, my guy from MSU, the
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Speaker 3: Michigan State Heritage pick. Maybe he took number ten with
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Speaker 3: full intention to put the stamp on and bring in Jace.
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Speaker 3: That's my bold prediction, forty to one or best number
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Speaker 3: you can find.
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Speaker 1: I love that, Brian, I lied. I'll give you the
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Speaker 1: last word. Do you have a lot? Do you have
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Speaker 1: as bold a prediction as Brandon does?
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately about forty to one, But I think I do
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Speaker 2: think like I'm intrigued at a potential shakeup in the
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Speaker 2: top five. Where I looked at your my Afears at
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Speaker 2: plus three hundred and common Malo Watch at plus three
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Speaker 2: fifty to go into the top five, because if Ace
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Speaker 2: Bailey is going to legitimately fall, because there are still
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Speaker 2: some books who think he's going to go in the
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Speaker 2: top five, and I know that Bill Simmons and Ryan
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Speaker 2: Rosseillo keep talking about Utah potentially liking Ace Bailey.
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Speaker 5: I think there's a reason for that.
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Speaker 2: But if Ace Bailey does fall out of the top five,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna need guys to rise on the board. Jeremiah
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Speaker 2: Fears is somebody who reportedly has been killing his draft workouts.
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Speaker 2: Who is somebody who is a very athletic guard. I
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Speaker 2: have questions about the jump shot, but those type of
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Speaker 2: dudes tend to rise up in the draft. Malo Watch
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Speaker 2: also is seven foot two and looks like he's gonna
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Speaker 2: be able to knock down threes at some point consistently,
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Speaker 2: along with being a rim protector. That's modern day NBA
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Speaker 2: basketball from the center position. We just saw Chet Holmgren
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Speaker 2: in that finals being a version of that. Those are
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Speaker 2: the two guys that I would look at in terms
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Speaker 2: of potentially crashing the party in the top five. Mala
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Speaker 2: Watch from Duke was one guy that I especially like.
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Speaker 2: He scared the hell out of me as somebody who's
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Speaker 2: Puerto Rican in the World Cup and in the Olympics
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Speaker 2: because he was on South Sudan and I was like, man,
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Speaker 2: I hope they don't play him a lot. They did not,
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be the face of that program for
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Speaker 2: a long long time. But those two guys, I think
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Speaker 2: either one of them have the potential to rise into
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Speaker 2: the top five if something just sort of freaky happens
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Speaker 2: early on in the draft.
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