Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Stormy Buonantony on the Utah Mammoth, Their first round loss to Vegas, How much as SLC added to the league + more
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- 0:02Speaker 1: God, it's the Sean O'Connell Show. You're home of the
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- 0:22Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show continues here on ESPN seven hundred ninety
- 0:26Speaker 2: to one FM, and we are happy to welcome Stormy
- 0:29Speaker 2: Blant and Tony uh. You have seen her on the
- 0:32Speaker 2: NHL Playoffs, you see her on the sidelines during college football,
- 0:37Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll see her sooner than later again here
- 0:40Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City, although I guess it would be
- 0:41Speaker 2: in college football now that the Utah Mammoth are out.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Stormy, welcome to the show. How are you.
- 0:48Speaker 4: I'm great, Thank you so much for having me. And yes,
- 0:50Speaker 4: I've spent a good amount of time in Salt Lake
- 0:52Speaker 4: for football, but a good amount this past first round
- 0:55Speaker 4: watching the Mammoth, which is a black Thanks for having me,
- 0:58Speaker 4: so I.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Wanted to talk about that obviously.
- 1:02Speaker 2: You know, we unfortunately have to move on to the
- 1:04Speaker 2: second round of the Mammoth or not part of that
- 1:06Speaker 2: second round. Your hometown Las Vegas Golden Knights were able
- 1:11Speaker 2: to knock out a fresh Mammoth team their first foray
- 1:15Speaker 2: into the playoffs. But I just wanted to get your
- 1:17Speaker 2: sense of not only the team and its competitiveness in
- 1:23Speaker 2: that first playoff run, but I think from a larger
- 1:25Speaker 2: scale where they belong now already in the NHL. You
- 1:29Speaker 2: hear players and coaches and pundits around the league talking about,
- 1:35Speaker 2: you know, the way that this team has already developed
- 1:37Speaker 2: a reputation for treating its players. Well, maybe Salt Lake
- 1:41Speaker 2: can actually be a destination in hockey the way that
- 1:43Speaker 2: we've struggled to be in NBA basketball. And you get
- 1:46Speaker 2: to talk to more people than I do, so your
- 1:48Speaker 2: sense of what the Mammoth can grow into with this
- 1:51Speaker 2: good start.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think there's a lot of excitement, rightfully so
- 1:56Speaker 4: about what Utah has been able to do just in
- 1:59Speaker 4: its second year out there in Salt Lake. And I
- 2:01Speaker 4: think last season there was a lot of figuring out
- 2:04Speaker 4: what are We didn't even have a name, And now
- 2:08Speaker 4: you are in a position where it wasn't a question
- 2:11Speaker 4: of if this team was going to make the playoffs,
- 2:13Speaker 4: but how they were going to get there, because there
- 2:16Speaker 4: was such a firm belief they were going to get
- 2:17Speaker 4: to that point and we're very competitive with Vegas. I honestly,
- 2:21Speaker 4: I feel for the Mammoth and I feel for Maymoth fands,
- 2:24Speaker 4: knowing that the first five games of that series they
- 2:26Speaker 4: had third period leads and then still found themselves down
- 2:30Speaker 4: three games to two and on the brink of elimination.
- 2:32Speaker 4: And even when kyler Yavamona scored that goal in the
- 2:35Speaker 4: third period, you think, okay, there's life. We got a
- 2:37Speaker 4: game here, and then obviously things fell to the wayside
- 2:40Speaker 4: and Vegas closed out the job. But what Utah has
- 2:43Speaker 4: in terms of the blend of youth and experience to
- 2:46Speaker 4: do what Montreal is doing right now. They're the youngest
- 2:49Speaker 4: team in the playoff, but Utah was the second youngest
- 2:51Speaker 4: team in the postseason, and there is so much to
- 2:54Speaker 4: build on. I mean, the way that we saw Clayton
- 2:58Speaker 4: Keller becomes such a leader and drive the bus for
- 3:01Speaker 4: this team, Logan Cooley, Dylan guns in the shot that
- 3:05Speaker 4: he has, but mixed with some of that better leadership
- 3:07Speaker 4: and guys who have Cup experience, I think it's a
- 3:09Speaker 4: really fun blend that you guys have and a fan
- 3:12Speaker 4: base that is really excited about that team and organizational
- 3:17Speaker 4: feel as a whole as you said, like what Ryan
- 3:20Speaker 4: Smith has done to keep fans engaged and trying to
- 3:23Speaker 4: get new fans. What he was doing in his owners
- 3:25Speaker 4: suite on Twitter to say, hey, hit me up if
- 3:29Speaker 4: you haven't been to a game. Like prioritizing people that
- 3:31Speaker 4: hadn't been there so that they could fall in love
- 3:33Speaker 4: with the team in the sport I thought was really special.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool you did allude to.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I think one of the most heartbreaking things about the
- 3:40Speaker 2: series for Mammoth fans in that they there were those
- 3:43Speaker 2: blown leads and you felt like, not only hey, we're
- 3:46Speaker 2: in the playoffs, We're just happy to be here. It's
- 3:48Speaker 2: like this is a series that they could have won,
- 3:50Speaker 2: and they played their way into leading positions and should
- 3:54Speaker 2: have been able to close it out potentially. But what
- 3:58Speaker 2: was missing and what cause them to give up those leads?
- 4:02Speaker 2: Is it just a simple Hey, you don't have playoff
- 4:04Speaker 2: experience and the Knights are built for this, they've been
- 4:07Speaker 2: here before. Because I know that we get like it
- 4:11Speaker 2: can become cliche like oh, you got to grow into
- 4:13Speaker 2: this or you gotta you gotta be there first and
- 4:16Speaker 2: the next year is the time that you'll actually win it.
- 4:18Speaker 2: The Knights are a good example of how it doesn't
- 4:20Speaker 2: have to be that way, with all the success they
- 4:22Speaker 2: had when they were a brand new expansion franchise. But
- 4:26Speaker 2: when you watch this series so closely, what was the
- 4:28Speaker 2: missing piece for the mammoth in your mind?
- 4:31Speaker 4: Sure, and I'll say for Vegas, like they're the exception,
- 4:34Speaker 4: not the rules.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:35Speaker 4: What they were able to do and hear one as
- 4:37Speaker 4: an expansion franchise and go all the way to the
- 4:40Speaker 4: Stanley Cup Final is absurd and ridiculous, and fans across
- 4:43Speaker 4: the country have been matt at Vegas ever sits for
- 4:45Speaker 4: it and it has gone away. But with u Jah,
- 4:48Speaker 4: I think maybe there is an element of that. And
- 4:51Speaker 4: I did appreciate Andre Torny kind of repeatedly throughout the
- 4:54Speaker 4: series challenging that youth birth experience narrative to an extent
- 4:58Speaker 4: and saying how even some of the young guys are
- 5:00Speaker 4: roster have played in pivotal games in different areas of
- 5:03Speaker 4: their careers, just not the NHL postseason specifically. That said,
- 5:08Speaker 4: it did feel like Vegas had a bit of a
- 5:10Speaker 4: killer instinct in their game in the third period and
- 5:13Speaker 4: in overtime and drawing Utah into some of those undisciplined
- 5:17Speaker 4: penalties with some of those younger pieces, it felt like
- 5:20Speaker 4: there was, like to me, at least a comfort in
- 5:23Speaker 4: the uncomfortable for Vegas, whereas Utah in a lot of
- 5:26Speaker 4: those moments did in my opinion, like I just perceived
- 5:30Speaker 4: them to potentially be learning a little bit. And maybe
- 5:33Speaker 4: that's inaccurate. Maybe it was just bounces downd Vegas more
- 5:36Speaker 4: than Utah, But to me, I do think that that
- 5:39Speaker 4: experience played a role. But now the good news is
- 5:43Speaker 4: they have done right and they were able to gain
- 5:46Speaker 4: that experience this postseason and can learn for it and
- 5:49Speaker 4: put it into action next year.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I can't decide if I like the developing rivalry for
- 5:55Speaker 2: Vegas enough to say I don't want to see the
- 5:57Speaker 2: gold Knight succeed moving forward, or if it's like, hey,
- 6:00Speaker 2: they're the team that knocked you out, now I want
- 6:02Speaker 2: to see them like that means something. Let them make
- 6:05Speaker 2: a run to the Cup again and they sneak out
- 6:08Speaker 2: to a one game lead so far in the second
- 6:10Speaker 2: round series over the Ducks. Wild Bill Carlson is back.
- 6:14Speaker 2: When you look at what this Gold Knights team is
- 6:16Speaker 2: capable of moving forward after beating the mammoth.
- 6:19Speaker 3: What is their ceiling in these playoffs.
- 6:22Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was on the broadcast last night, and
- 6:24Speaker 4: I know Vegas was not particularly pleased with their game
- 6:29Speaker 4: in that Game one, yet they were stillingful to come
- 6:31Speaker 4: out with a win, and I just talked about the
- 6:34Speaker 4: experience and the confidence they have in late game moments
- 6:36Speaker 4: that showed again last night for them to pull away
- 6:39Speaker 4: and get that win in the third period. They've been
- 6:41Speaker 4: masterful in third periods all season long, but to do
- 6:43Speaker 4: it in the postseason the way they have, I think
- 6:45Speaker 4: shows exactly what we're talking about here. My gut, like
- 6:49Speaker 4: ESPN has us make our picks for each series going
- 6:52Speaker 4: into each one, and I did pick Vegas to win
- 6:54Speaker 4: the series in six. I think they advanced to the
- 6:57Speaker 4: Western Conference Final, but the probably and there, knowing what
- 7:02Speaker 4: Colorado or the Minnesota Wild have on the other side,
- 7:05Speaker 4: I think is just a little bit of a different
- 7:07Speaker 4: level than where Vegas is at this season. So to me,
- 7:10Speaker 4: their peak this year is Western Conference Final. I would
- 7:13Speaker 4: love to be proven wrong, especially, like you mentioned earlier,
- 7:16Speaker 4: living in this city and I know how fun Vegas
- 7:20Speaker 4: can be when the Golden Knights are good and at
- 7:22Speaker 4: a high level. That said, to go back to your
- 7:25Speaker 4: point about the rivalry, I would love for this to
- 7:29Speaker 4: be something that grows over the years, especially because of
- 7:34Speaker 4: the footprint right and at Utah used to be in
- 7:38Speaker 4: the Vegas TV market before this team ultimately came to town.
- 7:43Speaker 4: And like what Ryan Smith did with trading in the
- 7:47Speaker 4: Golden Knights jerseys for Mamos jerseys, and my first job
- 7:52Speaker 4: in hockey was with the Golden Knights, and I remember
- 7:54Speaker 4: vividly like the VGK road trips that they would do
- 7:58Speaker 4: every summer in the off season, going to Salt Lake
- 8:01Speaker 4: City and going to like Wyoming and Montana and all
- 8:06Speaker 4: these different places to become kind of that second team
- 8:08Speaker 4: in the Rocky Mountain region outside of Colorado and Utah
- 8:12Speaker 4: was a big part of that footprint. And so to know,
- 8:15Speaker 4: like you guys kind of stole a little bit of
- 8:17Speaker 4: that footprint and are young and up and coming and
- 8:20Speaker 4: a rock solid playoffs team in the future playing in
- 8:23Speaker 4: the Pacific Division. I would love to see what this
- 8:25Speaker 4: can grow into over the years.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Stormy Bonana Tony's our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
- 8:31Speaker 2: ESPN College Football and NHL reporter. She's got her own
- 8:35Speaker 2: show on Sirius XM on the VSIN network. It feels
- 8:44Speaker 2: like with the USA Gold medal, and obviously here in
- 8:48Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, like we become our own bubble and
- 8:52Speaker 2: our own little echo chamber. And I'm like, this is
- 8:55Speaker 2: this is a real moment for hockey in the United
- 8:57Speaker 2: States of America because you got the gold and the
- 9:01Speaker 2: league is growing, and these NHL playoffs have been incredible
- 9:05Speaker 2: that everyone seems like is watching the reality of the
- 9:10Speaker 2: NHL is they have been a relatively distant fourth place
- 9:14Speaker 2: in the major sports. But it's just now that we
- 9:18Speaker 2: have our own team, I find myself being like, let's
- 9:21Speaker 2: fix that. This is way better than NBA playoffs. This
- 9:24Speaker 2: is second to only football. Do you still view the
- 9:29Speaker 2: NHL and professional hockey as a growth sport in the
- 9:33Speaker 2: grand scheme of things in the United States?
- 9:36Speaker 4: I think that the ratings will tell you that story, right,
- 9:41Speaker 4: And I think hockey at its core because of the
- 9:45Speaker 4: difficulty to get involved in it and how expensive a
- 9:49Speaker 4: sport it is for equipment, for travel, for all of
- 9:53Speaker 4: those things, it makes it a little bit more difficult
- 9:55Speaker 4: at the grassroofs level to have the expansiveness that a
- 9:58Speaker 4: sport like basketball, for example, does where you can just
- 10:01Speaker 4: pick up a ball and they'll play pick up at
- 10:02Speaker 4: a hoop. Anywhere you have to have ice, you have
- 10:05Speaker 4: to have equipment, you have to have different things to
- 10:07Speaker 4: get you involved. And I think that's at least part
- 10:09Speaker 4: of why hockey has been on that pier, because it's
- 10:14Speaker 4: just it's one of those sports that the access to
- 10:17Speaker 4: it is more difficult at a younger level. I think
- 10:19Speaker 4: organizations like Vegas, like Utah specifically getting people and young
- 10:27Speaker 4: people into a sport that maybe they weren't familiarized, can
- 10:31Speaker 4: change and grow that. So, yes, I do view it
- 10:33Speaker 4: still as a growth sport big picture nationwide. However, you
- 10:37Speaker 4: mentioned it, it is growing, and the television ratings that
- 10:40Speaker 4: we're seeing this year from the first round of the
- 10:42Speaker 4: playoffs and entering the second or the highest that they
- 10:44Speaker 4: have ever been. They're setting records. It's kind of in
- 10:47Speaker 4: my mind, catapulted with four nations a year ago and
- 10:50Speaker 4: seeing the US and Canada go at it, and then
- 10:53Speaker 4: obviously as you reference the Olympics this year and what
- 10:56Speaker 4: that continued to build into. I think that this sport
- 11:00Speaker 4: can and should become bigger and bigger and bigger because
- 11:05Speaker 4: there's nothing like it.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Like I.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Say this all the time, and I've covered every sport
- 11:11Speaker 4: across the book, there is no better live event experience
- 11:15Speaker 4: in sport than live hockey. It is just different. And
- 11:19Speaker 4: so I think another part of our goal as television
- 11:21Speaker 4: broadcasters is trying to make that more consumable on TV
- 11:25Speaker 4: because it is a more difficult watch, I think on
- 11:28Speaker 4: television as well, just because the puckets ball, you know,
- 11:31Speaker 4: and when you're in person you see the physicality, you
- 11:33Speaker 4: see the technical detail that it takes to skate and
- 11:36Speaker 4: set up things that the way that they do, it's amazing.
- 11:38Speaker 4: I love this sport so much and it would make
- 11:41Speaker 4: it would nothing would make me happier to see this become,
- 11:46Speaker 4: like become bigger than the NBA. I don't know if
- 11:49Speaker 4: that'll happen, but that's my greef.
- 11:51Speaker 2: I also wonder, and I don't know if it matters
- 11:53Speaker 2: to other people. It matters a lot to me, Like
- 11:55Speaker 2: growing into technical proficiency and learning more about the sport
- 11:59Speaker 2: and understanding more and more of what you see. It's
- 12:02Speaker 2: a heck of a lot easier in hockey to get
- 12:05Speaker 2: on board with it because of for me, the athletes
- 12:09Speaker 2: as far as professional athletes go, hockey guys are like
- 12:13Speaker 2: the coolest, the most laid back, seemingly as passionate or
- 12:17Speaker 2: more passionate about their sport than any other professional athlete is.
- 12:21Speaker 2: They play hurt more than everyone does. You don't get
- 12:24Speaker 2: conversations about load management. You don't talk about like, oh, yeah,
- 12:29Speaker 2: I don't want to play in the Winter Classic, I
- 12:31Speaker 2: don't want to play in the Olympics. I don't want
- 12:34Speaker 2: to play in the Four Nations because I need to
- 12:36Speaker 2: focus on my NHL career what actually matters my paycheck.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Just the culture of hockey is so refreshing, given how
- 12:46Speaker 2: even our college sports now have become more and more
- 12:49Speaker 2: and more about money and business conversations, No.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Question about it, there is a toughness to the NHL
- 12:58Speaker 4: that I appreciate so much. I mean, look at even
- 13:01Speaker 4: the Edmonton Oilers who just got knocked out of the
- 13:03Speaker 4: first round by Anaheim and Connor McDavid. He was visibly
- 13:06Speaker 4: her he's playing through a fractured ankle. I have seen
- 13:10Speaker 4: players behind the scenes who are on like a role
- 13:15Speaker 4: lee thing for an injury, like those little scooters you know,
- 13:19Speaker 4: aren't that they aren't walking day to day around the
- 13:22Speaker 4: facility or anything like that, Yet strap on a skate
- 13:26Speaker 4: and go block shops in an NHL's Stanley Cup playoff game.
- 13:29Speaker 4: There is. It's ridiculous. And so yeah, like you know
- 13:34Speaker 4: when you're going to an NHL game that if a
- 13:36Speaker 4: guy can play, he's gonna play. You don't have to
- 13:38Speaker 4: worry about that. And just another reason, like you said,
- 13:42Speaker 4: to fall in love with this sport, it is these
- 13:45Speaker 4: dudes are different and it makes me excited about for example,
- 13:49Speaker 4: the Kachuck Brothers podcast wing Men that they've come out
- 13:52Speaker 4: so that people can start to see some of these
- 13:54Speaker 4: athletes' personality a little bit more. Hockey is definitely a
- 13:57Speaker 4: more team and we over I type of a sport,
- 14:01Speaker 4: and at times they can get into the cliche answers
- 14:05Speaker 4: and just wanting to say the right thing. And I
- 14:08Speaker 4: think if some of these athletes would let you in
- 14:10Speaker 4: a little bit more and see their personality, because there's
- 14:12Speaker 4: some of the funnest and coolest dudes out there too,
- 14:14Speaker 4: they let people see that a little bit more league wide,
- 14:17Speaker 4: I think that would really help the cause as well.
- 14:20Speaker 2: I'm going to be unfair and I'm going to ask
- 14:21Speaker 2: you a college football question when you're in full hockey
- 14:24Speaker 2: mode exact, because it's been it's been a wild offseason
- 14:29Speaker 2: here in Salt Lake City, And as we talked about,
- 14:31Speaker 2: you spent a lot of time here on the sidelines
- 14:33Speaker 2: covering a Utah team that for so many years it
- 14:37Speaker 2: was just like death taxes in Utah football. To quote
- 14:40Speaker 2: Joel Klatt, it was always Kyle Whittingham.
- 14:45Speaker 3: You know what this team is going to look like.
- 14:47Speaker 2: You know what this team is going to be identity wise,
- 14:50Speaker 2: and I think we're going to get a continuation of
- 14:52Speaker 2: that with the new coach, Morgan Scally. But I have
- 14:54Speaker 2: not yet talked to you and got your perspective on
- 14:57Speaker 2: the off season this program has had on the departm
- 15:00Speaker 2: Kyle Woitodingham, him going to Michigan and now a fresh
- 15:04Speaker 2: start here in Salt Lake for a guy who played
- 15:07Speaker 2: under Kyle Whittingham, coached his whole career Underkyle Whittingham, but
- 15:10Speaker 2: is now taking that baton and hopefully running with it.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Your thoughts on a new brand of Utah football given
- 15:18Speaker 2: that what we we have covered and you have covered
- 15:20Speaker 2: for so long has been, you know, kind of the same.
- 15:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it's got to be a little bit
- 15:25Speaker 4: surreal for some fans in the area, and knowing that
- 15:28Speaker 4: Whittingham has been at the Hell for the last two
- 15:30Speaker 4: decades and then when you think he's retiring and passing
- 15:34Speaker 4: the torch to Morgan's galley, he actually isn't retiring and
- 15:38Speaker 4: goes over to Michigan. And I mean, and kudos to
- 15:41Speaker 4: Michigan on the standpoint of for as much like turmoil
- 15:44Speaker 4: and controversy as they've had, bringing in as rock solid
- 15:48Speaker 4: of a human and a coach as you can imagine,
- 15:51Speaker 4: But obviously that takes away from Utah, and he takes
- 15:55Speaker 4: Jason Beck with him as well, who had the relationship
- 15:58Speaker 4: that he had with Deviner who I think that's such
- 16:02Speaker 4: a feather in the cap for Morgan Scalley to not
- 16:04Speaker 4: only keep Dampier but Bird Sicklin as well, and seeing
- 16:08Speaker 4: what that can look like offensively with the two of them,
- 16:11Speaker 4: and knowing that there's no hostility between them, that they're
- 16:13Speaker 4: like brothers, they're best friends. They don't live together, but
- 16:16Speaker 4: basically do they're together as much as they are, and
- 16:19Speaker 4: I think that was huge for him. But in terms
- 16:22Speaker 4: of continuity, I feel like Morgan Scallely is going to
- 16:26Speaker 4: keep a lot a lot of that, right, like he
- 16:29Speaker 4: learned from every step of the way. Kyle Whittingham, He's
- 16:33Speaker 4: been a part of this program for years and years
- 16:35Speaker 4: and years. He was always the head coach in waiting
- 16:37Speaker 4: and was probably a little bit tired of waiting, and
- 16:40Speaker 4: if he had to wait anymore, he probably would have
- 16:42Speaker 4: been the one to leave. So for him to be
- 16:44Speaker 4: a young, up and coming guy that has the same
- 16:47Speaker 4: mentality and has been building that defense and the identity
- 16:51Speaker 4: of the defense for years, I feel like Utah is
- 16:54Speaker 4: still going to be in a really good place.
- 16:56Speaker 3: That's the hope, fingers crossed.
- 16:58Speaker 2: And obviously when we get to college football season, we'll
- 17:01Speaker 2: be talking.
- 17:02Speaker 3: To you about that as well.
- 17:04Speaker 2: When do you start shifting into that mode after the
- 17:07Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs?
- 17:09Speaker 4: Yes, I need to get through the Cup for sure,
- 17:12Speaker 4: and I keep tabs on things here and there at
- 17:16Speaker 4: the other network that I work for beson. You mentioned
- 17:18Speaker 4: on Curious ExM one of my good friends and fellow hosts,
- 17:21Speaker 4: Kim Murray. He does like every three week college football
- 17:26Speaker 4: podcast in the off season, and so that really helps
- 17:29Speaker 4: seat me at least dialed on the news and everything
- 17:32Speaker 4: that's going on aside from Brendon Sorsby, because that certainly
- 17:35Speaker 4: caught my attention. Neither ere nor there, but yes, after
- 17:38Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup Final is really when I start to
- 17:41Speaker 4: shift my attention much more deep into both college football
- 17:45Speaker 4: and the NFL.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Well, hold on, because you mentioned it.
- 17:47Speaker 2: I is Brett Storesby playing college football in the twenty
- 17:52Speaker 2: twenty sixth season.
- 17:54Speaker 4: I don't know how he can. So I will be
- 17:58Speaker 4: keeping cabs on every time there is a new development
- 18:03Speaker 4: as we go. But the rules with the NCAA are
- 18:07Speaker 4: as clear as day on what you can and cannot do,
- 18:10Speaker 4: especially around sports betting, whether whether a lot of it
- 18:13Speaker 4: is correct or incorrect. I mean the fact that Torsi
- 18:16Speaker 4: was betting on games that his team was in. Yes
- 18:19Speaker 4: it was to win, and yes it was games that
- 18:21Speaker 4: he wasn't involved in. It Still, it's very blatantly and
- 18:23Speaker 4: clearly against the rules. You, as an NCAA athlete or
- 18:27Speaker 4: employee at any level, cannot bet on any of the
- 18:32Speaker 4: sponsored sports under the NCAA umbrella or professional sports that
- 18:37Speaker 4: are under that umbrella. They're very strict and clear on
- 18:40Speaker 4: what those are and for you to blatantly avoid that
- 18:43Speaker 4: and have all of these betting apps on your phone
- 18:45Speaker 4: while also having the I can't remember the name of
- 18:48Speaker 4: the app that that the NCAA makes you have on
- 18:50Speaker 4: your phone as an athlete now as a part of this,
- 18:52Speaker 4: so while having like that betting thing on your phone
- 18:57Speaker 4: as well. It's just it's just it's just stupid. So
- 19:01Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of sympathy for that when
- 19:04Speaker 4: you know the rules and blatantly break them. So I'm
- 19:06Speaker 4: very serious to see how this is going to play out.
- 19:09Speaker 2: I will be watching it very closely as well, and
- 19:11Speaker 2: we look forward to more conversations when we get to
- 19:14Speaker 2: that point in the season. Have fun with the rest
- 19:16Speaker 2: of the Stanley Cup playoffs, wish our mammoth. We're continuing,
- 19:20Speaker 2: but it's worth watching anyone out there, even with your
- 19:23Speaker 2: team out. I promise you these series in the West
- 19:26Speaker 2: and even in the East have been really fascinating so far.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Stormy.
- 19:30Speaker 2: I think you're one of the best in the business.
- 19:31Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving us some time today.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you so much for having me.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Hope to talk to you soon, Stormy one and Tony
- 19:40Speaker 2: ESPN College Football and NHL Insider reporter.
- 19:44Speaker 3: You'll see her on the sidelines.
- 19:45Speaker 2: You will see her rinks side she does a fantastic job.