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The Twot Seat: MAYCI NEELEY (The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of The twat Seat.
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  Speaker 2: Today we have on Macy Nealy. She burst into the
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  Speaker 2: center of pop culture when Hulu's The Secret Lives of
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  Speaker 2: Some Mormon Wives took the world wide storm. She has
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  Speaker 2: a memoir out now. It's called Told You So. It's
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  Speaker 2: in bookstores now, so you can get it because what
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing on Hulu is barely scratching the service. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is streaming.
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  Speaker 3: On Hulu and season three is about to come out, right,
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  Speaker 3: don't they come out pretty soon? So I remember when
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  Speaker 3: we interviewed them earlier in the year and it was
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  Speaker 3: season two, they were already filming season three. Like now,
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  Speaker 3: they turn it around really quick. It's a quick turns
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  Speaker 3: for sure. Now this port she has gone through so
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  Speaker 3: much in her.
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  Speaker 2: Young life, I know, and we're about to.
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  Speaker 3: Hear all about it, enough to write a book.
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  Speaker 2: Enough to write a book. But Secret Lives of Mormon
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  Speaker 2: Wives starts airing November thirteenth, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right around the corner.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Are we going to recap it again?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to so good.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, how are you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hi?
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  Speaker 3: See, it's been a while since we talked to you.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a minute, but it feels like yesterday at
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  Speaker 1: the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the congratulations on your new book, thank you, I'm
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  Speaker 3: so excited.
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  Speaker 2: And congratulations on your baby.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I know, I had my husband take her
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  Speaker 1: out today because I'm like, she's a little too crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We gottata when.
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  Speaker 3: We saw you last year.
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  Speaker 2: Pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she's two months, so she's little. She's little, but
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  Speaker 1: like I thought, she's such a big girl.
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  Speaker 3: Now, remind me, didn't you tell me when I met
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  Speaker 3: you last that your mom lives in Kodo?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, gott to hook us.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I like I lived there my whole my
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  Speaker 1: whole life, Like I grew up there, Like I think
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  Speaker 1: we lived there when I was seven and then my
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  Speaker 1: parents are still there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like so crazy. So I was actually just
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  Speaker 1: there for.
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  Speaker 3: Like would she be good for housewives?
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to say, because I feel like my mom,
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  Speaker 1: I think it looks in the beginning she'd probably be
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  Speaker 1: a little stiff on camera, just because I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think the perception would maybe scare her, like not
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  Speaker 1: looking at like looking a certain way on TV. But
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  Speaker 1: I think like after a while she'd be good. She'd
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  Speaker 1: probably feel like me where she's kind of like more
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  Speaker 1: chill like probably not like directly in drama, but like
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  Speaker 1: I thought she'd be pretty good though.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know she'd be a good narrator.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she'd like the narrator for sure. My mom like
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  Speaker 1: loves telling stories that Letty can tell you a story
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  Speaker 1: about any topics. I feel like she would be a
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  Speaker 1: good narrator.
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  Speaker 3: Put her together with my husband, they would just talk
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  Speaker 3: for hours.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: They're casting now, so she's interested in let me know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll tell her because at first I
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  Speaker 1: brought her, brought it up to her after we did
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, He's like, yeah, i'd be interested, But I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see, I'll see. I should have her at least
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  Speaker 1: try out and think it'd be funny.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll send you my phone number and she can
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  Speaker 3: give me a call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, send it to me. I'll tell her
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  Speaker 1: to at least adition for it, so it could be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, i'd love to meet her. I wonder if we
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  Speaker 3: have any mutual friends. I have so many friends that
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  Speaker 3: live in Codo.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably used to, like in code, like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you go to the country club at all,
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  Speaker 1: but I used to.
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  Speaker 2: I used to live there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like perfect.
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  Speaker 3: What's your mom's name, Cindy Sindy Sunday. Yes, okay, before
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  Speaker 3: we get into I know.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we're going to talk about your book,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean it's heartbreaking but also incredible you gone through.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 2: Do sing Whitney and Jin make you want to go
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  Speaker 2: on next season?
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  Speaker 1: You guys, I would embarrass myself, so I feel like, no,
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  Speaker 1: like I feel like watching them even more so made
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  Speaker 1: me not really want to do it, just because I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: they're so good that I think I'd go on and
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  Speaker 1: I'd feel like embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how I feel like I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if I got the opportunity, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be like absolutely not, like I would definitely consider and
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  Speaker 1: try it, but I would be like so anxious and
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  Speaker 1: like so scared because I'm not a dancer, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: not good at that at all.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you were there at Dance with the Stars for
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  Speaker 3: opening night, I went there to support a friend last season.
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  Speaker 3: Were you shocked when you saw how small?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, Like I thought, like when you
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  Speaker 1: see it on TV, it looks so much bigger, and
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  Speaker 1: like you get there and you're like, wait, it's like small,
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  Speaker 1: and like the songs were shorter than I thought, so
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  Speaker 1: I was like, at least there's that, like they don't
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  Speaker 1: have to like a full three minute thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's like one minute, right, one minute. Yeah, And you
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  Speaker 3: probably sat right in the front by those things that
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  Speaker 3: explode confetti out they let their ear drums out, yes, And.
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  Speaker 1: He kept telling the guy I would tell us, He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to go off. Yeah, but I always
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  Speaker 1: forget every time go off, And I was like yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then they're just the stuff that goes on in
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  Speaker 3: between people dancing, Like it's like sets come and people
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  Speaker 3: are flying from the ceiling and it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just fun to watch. Like when I went in person,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I love this, Like this is
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  Speaker 1: so fun. So I don't know. I I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was a great time. I feel like it made me
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  Speaker 1: more nervous for them, Like I felt so anxious before
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  Speaker 1: they started. I was like, oh my gosh, like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I was living it with them, but I
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  Speaker 1: could you imagine being I voted for both of them.
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  Speaker 1: You guys know, I love the Riders, so I think
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  Speaker 1: I can't like take a side. I mean, I love
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  Speaker 1: both of them like me and when you have had
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  Speaker 1: our differences, but we're like, I feel like we're in
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  Speaker 1: a good place and I love Greens. I like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I could ever choose like one or the
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  Speaker 1: other because they're also both so good. So it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going five to five. We're going split.
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  Speaker 2: And some people are saying it's unfair that Whitney is
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  Speaker 2: doing it because she has such a strong background and dancing.
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say it's unfair because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think she was like a professional dancer, but she did.
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  Speaker 1: Like I guess she does have a good advantage because
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  Speaker 1: she did dance for her major. Like, I get that,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's also a reasony I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I want to go on because I like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people that go on the show have a dance experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have here, So.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they can't like single Witney out because
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  Speaker 1: I know was it Glob's partner? I wrote where her
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  Speaker 1: name is Lah? I heard that she was a professional
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  Speaker 1: ballroom dancer but then got hurt. But I'm like, that's
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  Speaker 1: still That'd be like me going and playing tennis and
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  Speaker 1: people have never played before. I'd kick their butts, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But don't you feel I agree with that, But don't
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  Speaker 3: you feel there's like a level of popularity that goes
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  Speaker 3: into who wins too.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fifty percent dance or actually it's like
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  Speaker 1: forty percent dance maybe and then sixty percent popular people. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it could be more because I know that she was
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  Speaker 1: in the bottom three, right, but she's like really good,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like.
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  Speaker 3: She's good, but she's not very well liked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I'm like, I'd be kicked off so quick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have all your Orange County voters
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  Speaker 1: coming through, all the house by.
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  Speaker 3: Voter, Yeah, especially my cast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Would I'd be like if one showed up.
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  Speaker 1: Just how they did, they wouldn't come support.
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  Speaker 2: You never know. I don't think it would be like
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  Speaker 2: a podcast support. I would. Yeah, you guys did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that you guys start airing already, like
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  Speaker 2: November thirteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I know, for season three. I feel like it just
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  Speaker 1: it's just like flown by. I don't know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think I was just with you guys in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I just and it's like already new
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  Speaker 1: seasons coming out. It's bizarre.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you guys are a huge hit, and I've never
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  Speaker 3: seen a reality show like this just take off. Now
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  Speaker 3: you have some of the girls and dance and the stars,
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  Speaker 3: you have Taylor being the new bachelorette.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think to.
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  Speaker 1: Coze, Oh, Like, he's definitely not happy about it, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I think he's probably gotten over
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  Speaker 1: it now. But I don't think he knew for sure
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  Speaker 1: when it was announced that she was a bachelorette, Like
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  Speaker 1: I know, like there was rumblings and like the girls knew,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think he knew for sure until it
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  Speaker 1: came out on call her Daddy. Oh, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Really happy that I can get back together for the
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  Speaker 3: especially for the.
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  Speaker 1: Same No, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't on here, No, I don't. I don't. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: I don't know everything he's done to her. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean in regardless of him, Like I've had my differences,
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  Speaker 1: like I obviously like haven't liked him, but in general
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  Speaker 1: too like them two together, regardless of what he's done,
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  Speaker 1: it's just toxic. Even like he did change and he
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  Speaker 1: was the best ever, it's still never gonna work between
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  Speaker 1: the two of them. It's just them together is horrible,
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  Speaker 1: bad news.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we would see him on the show and
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  Speaker 3: he would cry, and his confessionals and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I just had a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a soft spot for him, like oh, changing.
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  Speaker 2: Can do that.
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  Speaker 1: They can. And it's funny because I even feel that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes with him, where like I like will have strongly
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  Speaker 1: like I'll strongly dislike him, but then like in person,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, ah, like he is like a likable person,
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  Speaker 1: like he he has a good side to him. He's
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  Speaker 1: not like I would say he's like a bad person,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's times where I felt that way, But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's a bad person to his core. He
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  Speaker 1: just makes bad decisions, good dad, I think. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think in the past they questioned it,
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  Speaker 1: but like I think he tries his best. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Like I have no idea. I don't I've
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  Speaker 1: never really seen him interact as a dad, like I
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  Speaker 1: think whenever they film like Ever hasn't been around, Like
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen him with ever, you know, So I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't know, but I assume he is, like Jordan said,
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  Speaker 1: he's a great dad.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I think. So we were left on
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  Speaker 2: a big cliffhanger last season between Jesse and Marciano. Oh yeah,
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: are we going to get into that a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: You're going to get into that a lot, And this
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  Speaker 1: next season, I feel I feel like we're going to
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  Speaker 1: see a lot like I think people are going to
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  Speaker 1: be surprised with what they see. And then also I
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  Speaker 1: just feel because I actually got to see this season
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time. Usually we never get to see it,
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  Speaker 1: but we did get to see it this time, and
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  Speaker 1: I will say it's probably my favorite season so far.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we probably say that every year, but
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like this time too. They kept like
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  Speaker 1: the fun little moments in there that are usually cut
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  Speaker 1: out for drama, Like I thought, they kept some of
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  Speaker 1: the bloopers and some of the funny moments that usually
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  Speaker 1: don't make the edit. So I did like that because
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  Speaker 1: it kind of shows a personality and it shows kind
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  Speaker 1: of like how we are. Because I feel like after
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  Speaker 1: last season, we got a lot of comments like there's
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  Speaker 1: like they're mean girls and blah bla blah. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, miss like the fun moments and the moments
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  Speaker 1: that we're just like laughing and like screwing around and
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  Speaker 1: like that gets cut a lot. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they did leave a good amount of those this season.
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  Speaker 1: So I felt like it was like funny, Like I
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  Speaker 1: had moments that I was like dying laughing in it,
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  Speaker 1: and like I feel like normally I don't.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know how do you deal with you
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  Speaker 3: talking about mean comments and stuff like that, and how
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  Speaker 3: do you deal with that on social media?
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  Speaker 2: Has it been easy for you or hard?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's easy for me so far. I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like I get a lot of hate compared to
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  Speaker 1: some many other girls. But I also like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's because I am not very controversial, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: just kind of doing my own thing. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm very neutral and it's not because I'm like playing
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  Speaker 1: a role. That's just kind of how I am in life.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just like I'm a neutral person. I can
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  Speaker 1: see both sides of the equation, and I I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm very like empathetic towards people, and like I
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  Speaker 1: can put myself on anyone's shoes, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: so for me, I don't get a ton of hate.
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  Speaker 1: But I also say, like we definitely get grouped in
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  Speaker 1: as a whole sometimes like these are all mean girls
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  Speaker 1: or this and that, and like, well, you don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing like twenty percent of like what we film,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because we film so much.
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  Speaker 3: And they all see how people don't understand that.
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  Speaker 1: No they don't. And I'm like, you're seeing just like
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  Speaker 1: certain moments of our lives, Like you're seeing probably the
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  Speaker 1: lowest moments and sometimes the highest, and you're not seeing
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  Speaker 1: like the in between. So it doesn't really affect me,
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  Speaker 1: though I know it affects other people. But I will
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  Speaker 1: say I don't get as much hate as other girls,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't really You're lucky, you know, speak to it.
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  Speaker 1: I do you take skin though, Like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm used to being judged and things like that, Like
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  Speaker 1: my whole life growing up being Mormon and having other
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  Speaker 1: Mormons who that I wasn't like Mormon enough you know,
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  Speaker 1: say comments, and so I feel like I'm used to it,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't really care. I'm like, you don't know me,
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  Speaker 1: so you can't really judge me, you know, and you're
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  Speaker 1: not perfect, so you can't judge you know what they do?
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  Speaker 2: No remind me is mean?
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  Speaker 3: Is she on this new season coming up?
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  Speaker 1: She is, but not like the whole time, like some
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  Speaker 1: pieces I can't even remember exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Are you more team Jesse or to me team.
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  Speaker 1: Jesse, But like I wouldn't say like I'm on a team,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm closer with Jesse. And I feel like what
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  Speaker 1: has happened, which you'll see more of this season, like
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  Speaker 1: like I wasn't like I want to take this side,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of naturally happened based on like what
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  Speaker 1: was happening and stuff, and like also because what we
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  Speaker 1: were hearing wasn't The qualities are characteristics of someone that
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  Speaker 1: I want to be close friends with. I have no
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  Speaker 1: personal issues with me, I have no beef, Like we
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  Speaker 1: have a fine relationship. But like just from observing certain things,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like still love her as a person
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  Speaker 1: as a friend, but yeah, I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 1: like buddy buddy based on what I've seen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: unless of things drastically change and we decide I don't
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  Speaker 1: know whatever. I never say never because I am someone
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  Speaker 1: who will forgive anything, and again, she hasn't anything to me,
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  Speaker 1: so I have nothing to forgive. But just taking a
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  Speaker 1: mental note, I guess, yeah, it's a complicated situation. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I don't even know exactly how I feel about
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  Speaker 1: it because I do genuinely like like her and as
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  Speaker 1: a person, and we've had like so many good memories together,
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  Speaker 1: so it's hard to say.
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  Speaker 2: You had an incredible, like moving storyline last season, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is what led to your book. Can you
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  Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more about how you started
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  Speaker 2: writing it? Yeah, the stories behind it, what our viewers
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  Speaker 2: would be tuning into.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. So, like I always tell people,
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  Speaker 1: I feel the story's been writing itself for the last
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  Speaker 1: ten years because I had a blog that I kind
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  Speaker 1: of wrote and that's how I started social media and
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: kind of talking about my life story. And then I
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  Speaker 1: also wrote in a diary for like all my trauma
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I went through, Like I wrote it all down,
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  Speaker 1: and then I've written like bits and pieces over the
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: last ten years, but never like put it in a book,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: and then I got like the opportunity I got a
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: book deal because my manager knew it was like one
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: of my life goals and stuff, and so she got
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: me with an agent and I got a book deal
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: pretty quickly after season one, and so I was like, hey,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: this is the time, and so like I kind of
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: pieced everything together that I had already written. Then she
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: like added new stories and a lot more details, and
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: so it was definitely a really hard process. But like luckily,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: like I had kind of documented like everything else kind
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: of going on, so that it wasn't so I'm sure,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: oh one hundred percent, because over time too, like you
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: can forget things like and I had notes that I
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: wrote for therapy and things like that that I had saved.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: So I had like so much information that made it
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: a lot easier for the writing process, Like I like
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: still wasn't easy. And then I also added stories and
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: that were fun and like lighthearted and like silly and
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: stuff that people wouldn't know about me or that like
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't see in the show. Like there is so
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: much more in this book than like the three minutes
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: that you saw on the show for seasons.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you give us a little bit more of
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: a and just like the backstory of what you showed
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: on the show, and then.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I will say for the show too.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: For like that storyline, I filmed a lot of that,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: some of it season one, but then it was all
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: cut out of season one, right, So then we kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: of picked it back up for season two because I
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: still was going through this process of like I've never
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: been to the crash site or my baby daddy died,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: and so like that was something that like we wanted
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: to revisit because like I had my book deal, so like, okay,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: this is probably great to kind of open that chapter
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: starting to write, and like I need to kind of
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: heal to write for this book. So that was kind
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: of like the idea behind it. It was very difficult
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to do it because it's kind of like something that
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you always know you needed to do. We just didn't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: want to do it because he knew it was going
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: to be hard. Like that's how it was to the
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: crash site, Like I knew I need to do it,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I just kept like pushing it off. So I feel
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: like even doing it, I didn't do it for the show.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I did it for myself, but I feel like they
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: gave me an extra push to do that, and I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: was very grateful that I did, because it healed part
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: of me inside to an extent. But there is so
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: much more to that story of like what I dealt with,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: like with grief, and you know, like a backside of
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: like meeting Hudson's dad and like him passing away, and
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: how I was like kind of suicidal during my pregnancy,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: and like how my mom helped pick up those pieces,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and how I went back to byu, you know, even
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: though I had a kid, and like what it was
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like doing that, especially in like a religious culture. So
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about that. And then a big
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: piece that you don't see on the show too, is
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I talk about my relationship before I met my son's
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: father and like the abuse that I went through, and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we did film a little bit of that for the
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: show that also got cut, so you get to see
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: like what I went through before I met Hudson's dad,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And I feel like it all kind of like my
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: story kind of all makes sense once the pieces are
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: put together, and I feel like it even makes more
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: sense as to why I'm so neutral in the show
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: or thanks writers, because you see how much I've been
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: through and how I hate, like I hate having beef
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: with people. I always like to leave things on a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: good note because I know how how fragile life is
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and how quickly, like someone that I love was taken
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: from me, and I would never want to experience that again,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and if I did, I wouldn't want to have regrets.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: And I did have regrets, like when my son's father
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: passed away, because of like certain things that I said.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: You know, why do you think they cut it from
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: the first season? Do you think it was just too deep.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: They wanted to get the viewers to get to know
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: you a little bit better before they learned all this stuff.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I feel like a lot of storylines
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: were cut unless they were Taylor, And I said that because,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: like she is obviously like kind of the star, the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: focal point of the show, and so I feel like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: they wanted to follow like the current life drama instead
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of like things that maybe we've got into paths that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: still affect us now. And I do feel like they
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: dived into that a little bit more season two. But
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: even then, I did film like five scenes for my storyline,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and they were all pretty much cut down to those
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: two that you see of me talking to the mom,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Eric's mom, which is my son's father, his mom,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and then they shows me like going to the crash site.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But I did film like multiple other scenes that were
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all cut. I don't know why. I have no idea.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Part of me is fine that they were, because you're
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: gonna get all that in the book, right, You're gonna
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: get so much more detail and things that you didn't
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: even what you would have seen is nowhere near what
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: isn't the book, you know, So I'm glad to get
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the whole thing cut.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Did the mom talk girls support your journey in writing
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: this book.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I think like I'm someone who
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: kind of goes through things on my own and behind
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the scenes, I don't like to I don't say like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: burden people. That's like what I'm going through is like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: they obviously were very supportive, but I feel like when
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I was struggling here and there, I didn't tell anyone,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: like writing it and stuff like. I mean, I think
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: michaela certain days I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: little depressed, you know, writing this book. And like then
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: also cookies would show overt my door because she's like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the most like supportive person, Like she's like truly like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the best I love her so much, Like she's just
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: so supportive of like everything, and that's kind of how
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: we are together. So like she's alwaysly been very helpful
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: on my journey because she's probably the only person I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: would be like, oh, yeah, I'm like kind of sad
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: today because like sometimes it's hard to be like vulnerable
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and that's sense and tell a friend, you know, like hey, yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like kind of hurting her right now. And I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: think me and her, as we've gotten even closer over
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the years, have gotten better at that together. Like she'll
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be like yeah, this and that, or like postpartum I
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: try to check in a lot with her too.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys were pregnant at the same time, right,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and you gave birth around at the same time.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: How many weeks or stays apart? Yeah. Yeah, her baby
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: is six days older than mine, so they're like destined
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to be better best friends. Yeah, her baby's name is
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Lottie and my baby's name is Charlie, So I guess
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: they're both nicknames for Charlotte. And we didn't even know that,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like the internet started going crazy. I think both need
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: their baby Charlotte, and I was like what we did? Like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I was like so confused. So I didn't even know
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that until we you know, heard it online. So now
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: we kind of play into it. And we both named
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: our baby Charlotte, and we thought of the name like
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we'll like joke around. But yeah, we both did even
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: know that it was a nickname for Charlotte until yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So, So, how is the show changed your life?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, It's it's funny because I feel like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it's still the same as far as like I still
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: feel like me, like nothing feels different to me, but
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like obviously financial financially, it's been more beneficial, Like you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like this book deal I think would have happened no
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: matter what, but I think it got it like in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the door of like the best people because the show
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and like my story, I had more awareness, right, So
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that for sure. And then I think, just like, yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's crazy that like people like know who
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we are. I guess that's like the one that's really
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: different is like going out places and people wanting pictures,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and I mean that would happen a little bit beforehand
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: because we were doing like the influencer thing and we
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: all had like followers and stuff like that. But like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: obviously it's like way more heightened now. Yeah, so like
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that's cool, but like sometimes it's hard because I like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I love to just like you know, well to get
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in my sweats and looking like a little homeless, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and sometimes now like.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: You're speaking mind Teddy's language. Yeah, like and I love that,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and I feel homeless right now, no exactly, Like I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: have to look at I do to do a photo
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: shoot off this.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm like so glammed up. But yeah, so
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that's the only thing. It's a little bit different that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it's not like you don't like it, but like I do.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like you get watched a little bit,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and so like sometimes that's hard. Like you know, going
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to a dinner and you can see people like watching
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: me and you're like okay, like you're taking your picture
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and your pictures that like they're recording you without like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: saying hi, and I'm like, wait, like I don't like that,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Like that's the only thing I don't love or like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: when I'm with my family and stuff, and then I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like if my kids are going faral and they're like
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: taking videos and like, well, what are you doing with them?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Like that's like kind of right it? Yeah, Well I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: was like I just more sorry about the intention behind it,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: or like are you doing that to talk shit on me?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Are you like or you just like are you excited
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: get to a blogger? Yeah, that's the only thing I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: worry about. I'm like, if you have good intentions, no problem,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: no issue, Come ask me for a picture. Sure. But
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like I think when people are secretive about it, like
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: we know, like when you're filming and stuff like, sometimes
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you question their attentions like are you trained to be
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like malicious or are you like genuinely like excited. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's like, yeah, that's not like the everst.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to question yourself or you have to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: worry about like being watched when you're like maybe in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a vulnerable position, you know, like or even going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: take the obgyn. When I was first pregnant, I'm like
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: are people going to see me? And I'm like put
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: it online because I want to announce my pregnancy like
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on my own time, in my own way. So I think, yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that's what you just have to get used to is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: like certain moments being exposed maybe maybe before you're ready
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: or before you want to talk about them. And that's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: something that I guess I'm kind of getting used to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then how has that LDS community responded to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: your book and now going into another?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I haven't heard anything about the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: book at least, I guess what about the show. The show,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything new like in the past last year,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: before it came out and the trailer came out that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone was freaking out, like these aren't real
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Mormons and this is not what Warren's are, and like
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: people were freaking out right, and like that was a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: little hard because I'm like, this is my own community
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: like kind of attacking me, and I'm like I am
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a member and like I teach children about Jesus and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: our church. This is kind of weird for me. And
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it made me question myself too. I'm like, am I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: doing something wrong? Like is this bad? Like I feel
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like I did question myself and that was kind of hard.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And then it came out and like people realize it's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not all about like swinging and drinking. Until like people
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: were like chill, but I feel like I've heard a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: ton and if I do, I just don't care, like whatever,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Like you can think what you want, but like I.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Don't know, you immune to it after a while.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think I'm just used to it. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: did worry in the beginning because I just I mean,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the show when it came out either.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's like I don't know how it's edited. I'm like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: what if it does make it look like we're like
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just bashing the church, because like that's not what I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: want to do. Like it could be any religion and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to bash it because I just think
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it's like disrespectful. So I was a little worried, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: then it came out and I was like, oh, that's.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, yeah that makes sense. Yeah, what else can
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you tease in regards to the books so that we
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: can get everybody buying it?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I do tell like a little bit behind
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the scenes of mom Talk, which like I think we
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: don't really talk about the show and kind of like
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: how I got into mom Talk because I think a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: lot of people this is like one thing that's funny
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of like will kind of bug. A lot
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of us is that people online will be like, you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: guys don't even have a career without Taylor, and like
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: you'd be nothing without her. And I'm like, I was
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: making money doing social media full time before I met Taylor,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like we were friends on social media media, and Mikayla's same.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And I can't speak for everyone, but there's a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of girls who already had their own careers on social
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: media before they reported mom Talk. So like I had
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: one point two million followers before I even went into
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: mom Talk. But a lot of people don't know that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: because I see us all together and they're like, oh
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: my gosh, you won't even have followers without her. I'm like, no,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I very much like grew this on my own. So
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like fun toeal to tell,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: like how my career was before mom Talk as well,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: because I worked corporate. I was in advertising and then
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: when I worked at Goldman Sachs and I worked as
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a marketing manager before I took social media full time.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So I did stuff and the people like just don't know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Like people I don't know a lot about my tennis background,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and that was like my whole life growing up was like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: my identity is like rooted in sports, but people would
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: have no idea watching the show because it's not talked about.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: So I am excited for them to get to know
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: me better because I do feel like a lot of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the things that I film on the show unfortunately get
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: cut a lot, and I think it's because I'm not
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: very dramatic, like I I don't have a dramatic past,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and you'll read about that in the book. I think
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: some people who have interviewed me, they're like, wow, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: didn't know, like your life was so messy back then.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like there was a reality show back
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: then then it would have been crazy, but like, luckily.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: That probably wouldn't have been good for you.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't have so like we're in a good
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: place now and stuff, so I can talk about those
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: experiences and use them. And I also think that's why
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I am very protective of my friends, and you see
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: i'll see that on the show, is because of what
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I've been through, especially with Taylor, because you were like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: why is she so invested in a relationship Because I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: feel like I've lived it before and I hate watching
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you make the same mistakes over and over again. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: want to like stop it from happening because I know
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: how painful it can be. So I think people when
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: they read the book, they'll realize why I am the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: way that I am, and I'm excited for them to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Do you talk about the girls in your book and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: is there anything in there that could potentially upset them?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I do talk with them a little bit. Nothing that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: would upset them, I don't think, not that I can
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: think of, because it was like, it's not like it's like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you know a ton about mom talk. It's kind of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like how I got into it, and like a little
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: bit about the scandal and stuff like that. But I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anything that would upset them. If there was,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I'd be shocked and I probably wouldn't care because I'm like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I hate write anything rude.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: A lot of people that write books will like out
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: certain people that and piss off family members. So you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: don't do any of that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It's not like a tell all where I'm like, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: then this person did this, and this person did this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm someone who loves to give grace
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to people because I know I'm not perfect. In the past,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I was definitely not always the best, and so I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: feel like I have to give space for people to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: maybe done me wrong or done me dirty in the past,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: because like we're all trying our best, is how I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: feel like and in the past, and when you're young,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I always say, before your brain's developed, you do make
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. Like I don't think I realized
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that to like got older and I was like, wait,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: what were you doing? Or like why'd you do this?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like you realize as you get older,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you know certain things you could have done better.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, And have you heard from anyone that
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: you hadn't talked to for a long time once the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: book came out?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, yet, I still feel like I worry, Like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about family and like relationships, it is
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a little nerve wracking, Like I'd be lying if I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: said I wasn't nervous about it. I did let my dad.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: My dad is the first person to read it. I mean,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: my husband has read like most of it, but like periodically,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he hasn't read like the final version because we did
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: edit things out. But my dad was like sending me
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: paragraphs and he was like, if I would have known
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this was happening, I would have killed this guy. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, I know, since I didn't tell you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: because I didn't want you going to jail. So like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: wind the dad and not a dad in prison. So
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like certain things like that, Like my dad read it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and who was he was shocked by some of the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: things that I wrote that he had no idea about,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, So I do get a little worry about
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But like my dad's wrote it,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and he, you know, is very supportive. So yeah, that's good.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Well, congratulations and thank you so much for you going
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: on and talking to us.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Of course it's always fun.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And where do people get the book?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, so it's like all over. It'll be on Amazon.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. I think it'll be
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: in stores and Target, like all the main areas you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: can get it. People want to sign copy. It's available
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: on Premiere Collectibles and then obviously the book tour.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Do you have a copy of it in front of you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It's in my my little book area here she.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Is, Oh told you so good, have a lot more.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Glamor on than she does. But we want to go
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a little more in like the that's beautiful.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. We can't wait to read it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And thank you so much for coming on to talk
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: about it and sharing your story. It's going to change
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of people's lives.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Fun Bye Guy, Bye bye Yah.