Latest / The Academy Presents podcast / Conquer Your Cash: Wallets to Mortgages with Stuart Berryhill
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- 0:01Did you know that 90 % of the world's millionaires
- 0:05invest in real estate? Well, I'm Angel with the
- 0:08Academy Presents Real Estate Investing Rocks,
- 0:11and I'm here to help you if you want to go for
- 0:15your piece of that pie. Are you new? Are you
- 0:18new to this and you just don't know where to
- 0:20start? It's okay. Are you someone that has invested,
- 0:25but you feel stuck? You feel like you've lost
- 0:27momentum. You don't know where to really head
- 0:29from here. Are you a seasoned real estate investor
- 0:33who is doing great, but maybe you just want to
- 0:35hone a few skills here and there? This is the
- 0:38place for you. The Academy Presents Real Estate
- 0:41Investing Rocks podcast will connect you with
- 0:44industry experts so that you can save time, avoid
- 0:48costly mistakes, and begin living the life you've
- 0:52dreamed of all through real estate investing.
- 0:56You're already taking the first step. just by
- 0:59joining us here today. Hey guys, you know, thank
- 1:04you so much for being here today. And for those
- 1:05of you that have spent the last two days with
- 1:07us as well, you know, this is just amazing and
- 1:09so much fun. And it really is the highlight of
- 1:12my year. We do it twice a year. So I get six
- 1:15days of this amazingness because that's really
- 1:17what it is. And today we've got Stuart Berryhill
- 1:21and I'm going to let him talk a little bit about
- 1:24his background. And then he's going to give us
- 1:26some really financial literacy 101 advice. Because
- 1:29I think a lot of us, I know I didn't get it in
- 1:32school. Even in college, we didn't really talk
- 1:35about the personal financial piece of it. And
- 1:37so he's going to give us some info on that and
- 1:40give us some tips and tricks. And I think it's
- 1:42going to be amazing. So Stuart, I'm going to
- 1:43turn it over to you. And if you just tell us
- 1:45a little bit about yourself and then we can get
- 1:47started. Yeah, thanks, Angel. Definitely excited
- 1:50for this. I love the conferences going on. Definitely
- 1:54passionate about teachers, I think. teachers
- 1:57are so important to just the future of the next
- 2:03generation and leading them, and so I almost
- 2:06want to give you guys a round of applause, because
- 2:08I know I've been there, done that, and it is
- 2:10definitely some times where it is difficult,
- 2:13but there are often rewarding times where you're
- 2:16like, oh, okay, they said something sweet to
- 2:18me at the end of the year. It made up for all
- 2:20the rebellious things they did, and so anyways,
- 2:23a little bit about me. I am in Little Rock, Arkansas.
- 2:27That's where I'm at currently. But the past,
- 2:30actually this past year was my first year not
- 2:33teaching. So my first five years out of college,
- 2:37I went to University of Arkansas, Wu -Pig -Suey.
- 2:40But first five years out of college, I was a
- 2:42high school teacher and basketball coach at a
- 2:46small private school in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
- 2:48And so loved coaching, loved being with kids.
- 2:51I was a summer camp counselor and on the summer
- 2:53admin team. in uh the summer so it was around
- 2:58kids and youth 24 7 basically and um i enjoyed
- 3:04teaching but the pay was tough and so you know
- 3:08i started investing in rental properties and
- 3:10and things like that while i was teaching even
- 3:12kind of with lower pay i'm super frugal naturally
- 3:15and so every dime was just extra that i had was
- 3:19going to investing but long story short my Towards
- 3:24the end of my teaching journey, I was able to
- 3:28kind of rise to the top and be able to kind of
- 3:31control some of my curriculum, being a small
- 3:34private school and whatnot. I know public schools
- 3:36probably don't have that luxury as much, but
- 3:38my last year I was able to lead a class and develop
- 3:42kind of my own financial literacy curriculum
- 3:45because I was passionate about it. Youth was
- 3:47passionate about it. And everyone always says,
- 3:50hey, high schoolers should be learning financial
- 3:52literacy and things like that. You know, all
- 3:56sorts of different topics that go with that.
- 3:59And so I started to develop that curriculum.
- 4:01And now after being a teacher for those five
- 4:03years. Now I have a podcast that's kind of an
- 4:06extension of that called Money Vision U. And
- 4:09so the tagline is the financial class you should
- 4:11have had in high school and teach you how to
- 4:13make, manage, and multiply your money so you
- 4:14can learn to fast track your financial freedom
- 4:16and see opportunities the way the wealthy do.
- 4:19And so I do that, but then I have my real estate
- 4:21ventures going on. We've got 18 units now. We
- 4:24do the Airbnb game. We have six. We're actually
- 4:25about to close on 12 on Friday, and we're going
- 4:28to turn all those into Airbnbs. hotel there and
- 4:34then we have 30 units under contract so i'm growing
- 4:36the real estate portfolio and just pursuing financial
- 4:40freedom with the every spare second and every
- 4:43spare dime so awesome that's a little bit about
- 4:46me and um and that's great people i think that
- 4:52people think that getting into real estate you
- 4:55have to already have money when you get started
- 4:57and that isn't really the case i mean especially
- 5:00like with house hacking if you've got an extra
- 5:04room you can seriously rent out that room um
- 5:08if you've got like a garage apartment or you've
- 5:11got uh like a mother -in -law suite or a she
- 5:14shed or something i mean so long as it's got
- 5:17plumbing and electricity you can absolutely rent
- 5:21those things out so don't don't put blinders
- 5:25on and shut yourself off to possibilities because
- 5:27you think you can't do it for whatever reason
- 5:29Yeah. And starting small, anything you can start
- 5:32small with is great. So even if it's a one single
- 5:35family house, anything like that, you just kind
- 5:37of learn the game and get a little more confidence
- 5:40and you're able to take steps forward from that.
- 5:43That's how I started one, one house. And one
- 5:46thing led to the next, just really the main thing
- 5:49I was, I'm not the smoothest talker. I'm not.
- 5:51I don't have the most money, but I was one thing
- 5:54and I'm going to do one thing better than anyone
- 5:56else. And that's be consistent. And so that's
- 5:58really how I've kind of been able to continue
- 6:02kind of my path. And I think that's the main
- 6:05thing I pride myself on is I'm just consistent.
- 6:07I'm going to wake up and do the same thing and
- 6:09I don't mind the same routine. And I know it's
- 6:12going to lead where I want it to go eventually.
- 6:14But baby steps tell you get there slow, smooth,
- 6:16smooth as fast. But anyways, yeah, let me get
- 6:19into this presentation here. All right, and you
- 6:22should be able to share. Share my screen. So
- 6:27today I want to talk about setting yourself up
- 6:30for financial success. Because I know, I think
- 6:34in this conference, you're going to have a lot
- 6:35of people talk about real estate and, you know,
- 6:38maybe different asset classes or maybe different
- 6:40things than real estate. But I want to talk about
- 6:43really, to me, the one, two, threes of getting
- 6:45started. Make sure my slide here. There we go.
- 6:51Just I want to give some success stories just
- 6:54to kind of get started of people I've had on
- 6:56my podcast who I know on the left in the left
- 6:59picture. I've got Neely and Maddie Darm. Neely
- 7:02is a college student who's house hacking. And
- 7:05that's how she got started. And house hacking
- 7:07just means, like Angel said, you may live in
- 7:10a house and rent out your other two rooms. She's
- 7:13got a three bedroom, two bathroom house. She
- 7:15lives in college. Well, it made sense for her
- 7:17to. Not pay a faceless landlord, as she says
- 7:19in the podcast, but to buy her own house, have
- 7:23her family kind of help with the co -signing
- 7:26to be able to qualify, and then rent out the
- 7:29two rooms, and she lives rent -free. And she
- 7:32laughs because she looks on Zillow. every week
- 7:37and sees the prices of the house around her going
- 7:39up. And she's like, Oh, well, my house is appreciated
- 7:41pretty nicely. And so she's just seeing the power
- 7:43of real estate firsthand. Maddie, she's in college.
- 7:46And all she's doing right now is just she's doing
- 7:49tanning salon. She's there was no real She's
- 7:52at a smaller private college and there was no
- 7:55tanning business there. And so she got, I don't
- 7:58know how the tanning business works. So that's
- 8:00above my pay grade, but she has some sort of
- 8:01tanning salon thing in her dorm room and makes
- 8:04a couple thousand per month. And so it's just
- 8:08the little things. baby steps that they're doing
- 8:11and who knows if one day she scales that into
- 8:14something else and leases out a unit in a commercial
- 8:17building and has her own business there and then
- 8:18scales that I don't know but it all started with
- 8:20one little baby step while they were in college
- 8:22and the purpose of kind of this slide is to say
- 8:25you're not too old you're not too young you're
- 8:28in a perfect place all you got to do is take
- 8:30one step forward and and get the momentum going
- 8:34and then the guy on the right Alex Camuno He's
- 8:38a stud. He actually has a podcast himself, and
- 8:41I'll talk about him more later. But out of college,
- 8:44he quickly learned he wanted to be financially
- 8:49free, and he didn't want to work these hours.
- 8:51He was an engineer, and he didn't want to work
- 8:53all these hours, and he saw people that were
- 8:5560 years old, and they were still working. like
- 8:588 a .m. to 7 p .m. And he's like, man, y 'all
- 9:01still got family. I'm here being a single dude,
- 9:03but y 'all still got families to take care of
- 9:05and things like that. That ain't the life that
- 9:07I want. So he started his journey. And in his
- 9:10podcast, he talks about all the different types
- 9:13of businesses he started and how he's invested
- 9:15in himself and probably got the cart before the
- 9:19horse and quite a few of those businesses and
- 9:21tried to do too much at once. But finally, just
- 9:24through trial and error, landed on something
- 9:26new. He liked with his cleaning business. He's
- 9:29really a marketing company for a cleaning business.
- 9:31And now he makes $50 ,000 a month at 25 years
- 9:33old. He's financially free. He's able to quit
- 9:36his job. And so we'll hear about him a little
- 9:38bit more in the slideshow. Yeah, and I would
- 9:43just kind of like to point out too, like $50
- 9:45,000 a month is great, but financially free just
- 9:48means that you have more coming in than what
- 9:51you spend. Right. That's it. It could be, it
- 9:55could be $10 ,000. It could be $8 ,000, 6 ,000.
- 9:58It doesn't have to be some huge, crazy number.
- 10:01It can be something way more attainable with
- 10:04those baby steps. So don't get freaked out thinking,
- 10:07Oh my God, I got to make 50 ,000 a month. That's,
- 10:08that's not the truth. It's pretty awesome. He's
- 10:12making 50 ,000 a month, but that's not what you
- 10:14have to do to be financially free. Yeah. It sounds
- 10:17great to make that much money, but he, he would
- 10:20tell you too, that the purpose isn't. I mean,
- 10:23there's just levels to it. We wanted to start
- 10:25just with financial freedom of having his assets
- 10:28pay for his liabilities. And we'll talk about
- 10:30those. But really, I think before talking about
- 10:32financial freedom, I want to define what the
- 10:34rat race is almost like the opposite of financial
- 10:36freedom. And if you've ever heard Robert Kiyosaki,
- 10:39I'll talk about him later, but you got to read
- 10:41his books. You got to listen to just kind of
- 10:44his advice because he's the one that really kind
- 10:46of defined all this and brought this financial
- 10:49literacy awareness almost. to the world he's
- 10:53like the guy that people think of but the rat
- 10:55race basically is the cycle of and see if this
- 10:58looks familiar you go to work to earn money to
- 11:01pay for the bills or the debt until you are left
- 11:04with no money and so then you have to go to back
- 11:07back to work and you're just on this hamster
- 11:10wheel non -stop if that feels like some of you
- 11:14might relate to that you're constantly going
- 11:16to work you're constantly just paying the next
- 11:18bill that's due The next week, utility, mortgage,
- 11:21whatever it is, paying for the groceries, paying
- 11:24for the kids, but you're back at square one every
- 11:27time. And so that's what the rat race is, just
- 11:29kind of this endless cycle of feeling like you're
- 11:32having to trade your time for money. And so if
- 11:37I broke this down, now ignore the percentages.
- 11:40This is just something that I got off Google.
- 11:42I just wanted to see a pie chart for an example.
- 11:44So completely ignore the percentages. I'm not
- 11:46saying one thing or another for the percentages.
- 11:49But how someone in the rat race, how their budget
- 11:52might look like, or what it might look like is,
- 11:55let's say you make $30 ,000 per year. Well, at
- 11:59the end of the year, maybe you have saved up
- 12:02$2 ,000 to be able to invest. And you do that
- 12:06accordingly. You invest in whatever it is. Or
- 12:09maybe you've got a 401k plan, things like that.
- 12:12You invest. Well, what happens for people that
- 12:15often get stuck in the rat race, is their salary
- 12:19ends up increasing to call it $40 ,000. So now
- 12:23you have 10 ,000 extra dollars. So if you're
- 12:27pursuing financial freedom, really your margin
- 12:30just became $10 ,000 bigger to be able to invest.
- 12:34But what the people in the rat race end up doing
- 12:36is they take that margin and they end up spending
- 12:40it and they keep that same $2 ,000 margin that
- 12:44they started with. And so they're never investing
- 12:47into their future and investing into their financial
- 12:49literacy and into their financial freedom ultimately.
- 12:53And so that's what kind of the margins look like
- 12:55for people in the rat race. That compared to
- 12:59financial freedom where they're using every extra
- 13:02dollar they can. And, you know, take this with
- 13:06a grain of salt. I'm not saying to live so far,
- 13:09you know, like entrenched in penny pinching.
- 13:13that life is just completely unenjoyable. You
- 13:16know, I'm saying to be aware of kind of the margins
- 13:21that you have and make sure that you're not just
- 13:25following the rat race cycle and ending up in
- 13:27the hamster wheel, so to speak. So let's talk
- 13:32about now we've got the rat race kind of defined.
- 13:35Let's talk about financial freedom. So this chart
- 13:39right here, you'll see in Robert Kiyosaki's book
- 13:41called Rich Dad, Poor Dad. And it's a super important
- 13:45chart to understand. And really, financial literacy
- 13:49comes down to six words. Six words. And four
- 13:53of them are on here. But it's income. Actually,
- 13:55all six of them are on here. Income, expenses,
- 13:59assets, liabilities, and cash flow. Those are
- 14:03the six words that completely surround financial
- 14:06literacy. And you have to understand how those
- 14:08work. And the more you understand how those work.
- 14:11The more financially literate you are, as I say
- 14:14in my Money Vision You podcast, the sharper your
- 14:17money vision gets. You get to that 20 -20 money
- 14:20vision, so to speak. And so here's the cash flow
- 14:22pattern of a life. Let me define a liability.
- 14:25A liability is anything you invest in that takes
- 14:30money out of your pocket. That compared to an
- 14:33asset is anything you invest in that puts money
- 14:35into your pocket. And a lot of people actually
- 14:38get. assets and liabilities mixed up. But that
- 14:40is like a fundamental term or terminology, I
- 14:46guess, to understand in the financial freedom
- 14:48journey. Because a lot of people invest in liabilities
- 14:51that they think are assets. And so really, all
- 14:54they're doing is paying more expenses, and they're
- 14:56never becoming wealthier. So let's say a car,
- 14:59for example, you invest in a car, you're taking
- 15:01monthly payments with your car. Well, is a car
- 15:05ever putting money back into your pocket? Now,
- 15:09take that with a grain of salt, because right
- 15:11now, the past couple of years, the car market
- 15:13has been very weird, very abstract to where you
- 15:16could actually have made some money for even
- 15:20after you've put some miles on a car and you
- 15:22can sell it for the same value. That is very
- 15:24abnormal. That's not the standard. Generally,
- 15:27you buy a car, call it $20 ,000. You're making
- 15:30payments. You put 50 ,000 miles on it. You sell
- 15:34it for $5 ,000 less. So you really didn't make
- 15:37any money from the car. It was only ever taking
- 15:43money out of your pocket. That compared to an
- 15:46asset that you invest in, an asset puts money
- 15:50into your pocket. So what is an asset? Something
- 15:54like real estate, maybe a business you invest
- 15:57in, the stock market or call that paper assets.
- 16:01You invest in those and it puts money into your
- 16:05pocket. So you invest in real estate and real
- 16:08estate isn't a get rich quick scheme. It's a
- 16:11get rich for sure scheme, as I like to say. And
- 16:13so you invest in real estate, boom, $200 of cashflow
- 16:19per month that adds to your income. And so now
- 16:22you're making more money. Now, obviously you've
- 16:24got to buy right at the same time. So you've
- 16:26got to learn how to underwrite it a little bit,
- 16:28but it's not daunting. You're really just seeing
- 16:30how much money the property makes from the income.
- 16:34and deducting the expenses from the income. But
- 16:37those are the six words that surround or encompass
- 16:39financial literacy kind of 101. So this next
- 16:45slide I want to look at is kind of an extension
- 16:47of that slide. And it really breaks down how
- 16:51the poor, middle, and wealthy make their money.
- 16:55And so starting with the poor class, the poor,
- 16:59what they end up doing is they go to their job.
- 17:03And their only source of income is that salary.
- 17:06And that income is spent on all their expenses.
- 17:10And ultimately, they don't have enough money
- 17:13to be able to invest in assets or liabilities
- 17:17necessarily, because the income is so low. And
- 17:21I know a lot of you teachers probably may feel
- 17:24this way. Sometimes I felt the same thing. I
- 17:26was telling Angel before, I was making less than
- 17:28$30 ,000 a year. So as a Small school, private
- 17:33teacher, definitely didn't make much starting
- 17:36out or even at the end. Wasn't any big pay raises,
- 17:40that's for sure. So I definitely feel that right
- 17:43there. So you're having to try and figure out
- 17:45how to save money, how to maybe creatively get
- 17:49in deals. There's ways to do that too, which
- 17:52I'm sure other speakers may talk about, but there's
- 17:55ways to kind of creatively get in deals without
- 17:57necessarily using your own money, but the poor.
- 18:00Getting back to the point here, the poor, they
- 18:02go to their job to work for a salary, and all
- 18:06that money goes to expenses. This compared to
- 18:09the middle class, they go to their job, they
- 18:11earn the salary, and what they end up doing is
- 18:15they only, no, I don't want to say only, they
- 18:18invest in assets, but maybe for the long term,
- 18:22maybe for retiring when they're 60 or 65 or something
- 18:25like that, the status quo of. I guess the American
- 18:29dream in America. But what they often end up
- 18:34doing is investing in liabilities that they think
- 18:37are assets. So that may be something like a home.
- 18:41And a home can be, you could probably sway me
- 18:44either way. I'm not necessarily gung -ho on saying
- 18:48your home is an asset or a liability, but Robert
- 18:52Kiyosaki likes to point out in 2008. People learned
- 18:55that their home was not an asset because it lost
- 18:58a lot of value. Now, generally speaking, your
- 19:01homes can go up in value, but you could go one
- 19:07way or another. But for the most part, he's trying
- 19:09to say that a mortgage, if you're paying a mortgage,
- 19:12you're not gaining income from that. And it's
- 19:14all about putting money into your pocket, getting
- 19:17more cash flow, other liabilities, car loans,
- 19:20obviously student loan debts. kind of have to
- 19:24pay those off, credit card debt. You just end
- 19:28up spending money like on a credit card, on call
- 19:32it retail debt, just on stuff you don't necessarily
- 19:35need. And so you're not necessarily focused on
- 19:38that asset column. And all this compared to the
- 19:41wealthy, what they end up doing is they actually
- 19:44don't get their money from a job. What they do
- 19:48is they get their money from their assets. So
- 19:50real estate, stocks, bonds, notes. intellectual
- 19:54property i don't even know what that means that's
- 19:57just in there that's something new that i could
- 19:59not define intellectual property is like the
- 20:02stuff in your head the stuff that you've created
- 20:04so your podcast um an ebook yeah you've done
- 20:10that it's it's come from your head so business
- 20:13basically so i guess i would define that as business
- 20:16you're you're creating an audience and you're
- 20:19creating fans to buy your stuff so yeah so those
- 20:21are some different assets And notice how their
- 20:24income doesn't come from a job, but it comes
- 20:26from those assets via rental income or dividends
- 20:31from the stock market, maybe interest on notes
- 20:33that you loaned out, whatever it is, royalties.
- 20:36I guess that would come, you know, whatever you
- 20:39do business -wise. And those assets pay for their
- 20:44income or give them their income, and then those
- 20:47end up paying for their expenses and liabilities.
- 20:50So that's the difference between all of them.
- 20:52And I know one thing right now that's big is
- 20:55tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich. Well,
- 20:59one thing that's interesting, and this is not
- 21:01a political statement at all, one thing that's
- 21:03interesting is when you understand where the
- 21:06wealthy's money comes from, and it's from an
- 21:09asset and not a job, it becomes a lot harder
- 21:12to tax because it's easy to tax a W -2 job. it's
- 21:17easy to tax a doctor or a lawyer. They're getting
- 21:20their money from a job, but that compared to
- 21:22someone like Elon Musk, a lot harder to tax them
- 21:28because their money is technically tied up into
- 21:30the stock market. Now, because that's how they
- 21:34often get their, I guess, net worth and their
- 21:37income. And then once they liquidate it, once
- 21:41they bring it to the market, then it's taxed
- 21:44because as a matter of fact, I think Elon Musk,
- 21:47brought uh he liquidated i don't know how much
- 21:50it was but he had to pay 11 billion dollars in
- 21:53taxes the most that any person had ever paid
- 21:55in american history so they're they're taxed
- 21:58differently yeah so and people want to you know
- 22:01real estate people they're able to use the tax
- 22:07code to their advantage you know the tax code
- 22:08just um is like an allowance it tells you what
- 22:12to do and how it's going to reward you and so
- 22:14nothing no one's doing anything illegally when
- 22:15they're investing in real estate um to i don't
- 22:20want to say avoid paying taxes but using the
- 22:22tax code to their benefit but that's how the
- 22:25wealthy get their money and so they're able to
- 22:27use things like cost segregation and bonus depreciation
- 22:30to be able to basically show a tax loss and so
- 22:33then they don't have to pay taxes and so that's
- 22:36just the way the tax code is right now in the
- 22:38financial um I guess for the MoneyVisionU crowd
- 22:43that I have out there, the sharper you're able
- 22:45to get that MoneyVision, the more you're able
- 22:47to see clearly just kind of how to play the game,
- 22:49so to speak. It's like Monopoly. You just got
- 22:52to learn how to play the game. And so I always
- 22:55kind of joke about this because Elon Musk, he
- 22:58was talking about how. He wasn't paying taxes,
- 23:01things like that, but he ended up paying $11
- 23:03billion in taxes, and then he jokes about, don't
- 23:06spend it all at once. Oh, wait, you already did.
- 23:08I don't know. The government's not always great
- 23:10with spending money. We'll just say that. Let's
- 23:15just say that teachers are underpaid. Teachers
- 23:17should be paid more. It is one of the most necessary
- 23:21jobs that we have in this country, the most needed,
- 23:24most important jobs that we have in this country.