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Can the Panthers Offense Find Footing in Jacksonville? · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

• 0:00
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are heading to Jacksonville for joint practice and their third preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars after a dismal performance in Buffalo.
• 0:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Can the addition of Darren Waller give this offense a jumpstart?
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  [UNKNOWN]: You won't find out this week, but...
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  [UNKNOWN]: can Alice is really impressed with his conditioning.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Caroline is offence, struggling, but their defensive front may be better than we thought.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The longest running Panthers podcast.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My name is Tony Dunn, and tonight's show is Candle Panthers offense, fine, footing, and Jacksonville.
• 1:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You heard some of the topics, but boy has Panther Nation been a panic after an offense could not even earn a first down.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about 15 to 20 plays?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Can Alice set it with a taken to the third quarter?
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  [UNKNOWN]: I was saying that all during the watch along.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How bad is it?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to let you know tonight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody like my wheel man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How you doing my friend Tony done that offensive line was looking like Swiss cheese brother a lot of people are asking about the depth on this line and if we did in current injury man we haven't to depend on channels of bala man that is rough.
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  [UNKNOWN]: However, we also got a brand new signing for us to
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  [UNKNOWN]: is now in Carolina, Panther will wrap up the Buffalo game and look forward to Jacksonville and Tony will do it with the best damn Panther fans in all over YouTube, Chris St. Butler and the building, John B Jenkins go fish, what's our brother KG73's, loud pack, Luke, VR, the home dealer, hey have a better day brother we're here to help you out man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And then last but not least, Panther, gal, Tony Donn is a Tuesday night and don't do it, but to do it brother, let's roll the numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight, that's two, five, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety a call in.
• 2:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Let us know your thoughts on the Carolina Panthers preseason.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Second preseason performance against the Buffalo Bill's just how much panic is in the air.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Does this does the preseason matter?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Does it not matter?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dan Morgan said it does matter, though, can the Carolina Panthers offense get it together?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for your time.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Your support your energy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And as always, C. K. Thanks for being in the house.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How you doing my friend?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Man, I'm out here, living dreams, love to have a conversation about what we saw on Saturday from this team, if that means that there's a moment of panic, or if that means that this is 15 snaps from an offense that, uh,
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  [UNKNOWN]: that doesn't seem to have rhythm currently, which is often times what we've seen from this offense early on in the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So, but it'll be interesting to hear everybody's takes and see what the reactions are on the cat calls and it'll be an interesting evening of probably overreaction to be quite honest.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe over reaction.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I sometimes think that it might be under reaction just because we are shamed and criticism to criticize our team at times.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, oh man, you don't believe of them.
• 4:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't believe in them.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Well Josh Allen went out there and showed you why he's one of the best in the league.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He went out there and their offense was cooking.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And some boys, so why are one person saying, look like they were scheming up things.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But everything's vanilla
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  [UNKNOWN]: the preseason you can say excuses but it just at some point when does the smoke equal fire I will try not to panic I am going to be here watching this team record list that's the painful part of it so how negative I go
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  [UNKNOWN]: doesn't matter because I will.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a glutton for punishment.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack tonight show, can the Panthers off his fine footing in Jacksonville, but before we get bogged down in our discussion of that putrid beginning to the Buffalo bills performance as we continue to try to generate excitement.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've generated optimism.
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  [UNKNOWN]: much more more until we actually see the team.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's the worst part of it is seeing the team makes us less optimistic.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But let's not get bogged down and Buffalo bills, the Buffalo bill beat down.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Instead, the Carolina Panthers are heading to Jacksonville for a, I think the joint practice is on Friday.
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  [UNKNOWN]: are or is the joint practice, no, the joint practice.
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  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm proud of for more of the game on Friday.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Correct.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are heading to Jacksonville to play another AFC team on the rise.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The team that had been waffling and wavering had some moments of good.
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  [UNKNOWN]: A lot of moments of bad, but this Cohen guy was Cohen's first name.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Liam Colum, Colin, the offensive coordinator from Tampa Bay, who replaced Dave Canales.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dave Canales, the offensive coach who heads to Jacksonville to take on his offensive coordinator replacement, who is more offensively gifted and ascending in Jacksonville.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They really went from the bottom to the top last year.
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  [UNKNOWN]: and now we're trying to bounce back and this offense has got to try to get it together against a Jacksonville Jaguar's defense that has been disruptive.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thankfully, we robbed them of one of their good players in our linebacker, David Lloyd.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Kevin Lloyd, thank you for helping me there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But, man, this is a tough task.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It is the preseason, so it's easier than in the regular season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But this team, they look to be on the rise and Caroline is trying to find some footing.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, what's happening here?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I've said this before.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I like joint practices better than I do preseason.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is where you prepare for this season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: When we always have these debates about how much the pre-season actually prepares you to come out hot for the start of the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: To me, these joint practices is what actually that accomplishes that goal.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm only having this discussion of how much
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  [UNKNOWN]: talked about that a little bit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He said that he was not happy with his squad after that preseason done against the Buffalo Bills and who would be the head coach told this players, holds his players through high standard these days and they didn't come close to meeting it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dave can now let's go on to say.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Just what I've been seeing every day in practice here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The physicalities are show up, or style of football.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That has been the standard.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's what it's looked like.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to see that consistency happening in practice.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The competition will elevate, hitting some fresh new faces to go against.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Different schemes, different style of fonts, or fronts, different style of all fences.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Those types of things, they're seeing our guys execute with our type.
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  [UNKNOWN]: of physicality.
• 8:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So again, I think they're reveling in this opportunity to go up against some other players and practice, having more than one day of it than finishing up with the preseason game.
• 8:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, we have to look better against Jacksonville.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They were digging into Buffalo and I don't care that it's preseason because now for what the fourth year in
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  [UNKNOWN]: our starters going to preseason and below terrible we don't look anything like the Buffalo bills we don't look anything like a bunch of these other football teams now again we have the caveat here of saying no Robert Hunt don't know a damnian Lewis but it matters that we look so completely inept compared to our constituents and
• 9:37
  [UNKNOWN]: If we do the same thing against Jacksonville, who are also going to play their starters, we might have a real problem on our hands.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The joint practice is let's talk about that.
• 9:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina goes, if this is not joint practice, this is a joint practice.
• 9:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Unlike in past past years where we've seen the Panthers kind of host somebody for a couple of practices two or three, and then they play them, they also get to know those teams.
• 10:09
  [UNKNOWN]: This is one and done practice on the road.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They have been Dave Canales and Lean Cohen have been in discussions about how to run this, how to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: These joint practices are more controlled in a way, but I don't know if
• 10:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they are more beneficial than a preseason game.
• 10:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that for sure.
• 10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess maybe because you can work guys on specific things over and over and over.
• 10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's not how practice is even work though.
• 10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: They like run and play two times and then they're done.
• 10:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's two hours long.
• 10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And half of it is they're warming up.
• 10:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels like, no, that's that's probably it.
• 10:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, what you're talking about the ability to hit another football team.
• 10:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're doing more than just running through installs.
• 11:01
  [UNKNOWN]: No, yes.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, you're actually getting the opportunity.
• 11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you're actually getting the opportunity to see some of what you're going to want to do during the season in practice against another football team.
• 11:17
  [UNKNOWN]: and Damian Lewis returning, it should be a better opportunity for Carolina to get some momentum offensively.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So much for controlled, I saw that the Saints and the Cowboys and their joint practice today had six fights.
• 11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw six.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Six.
• 11:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I, um, I don't know what's more valuable everybody attends to the football heads, whether it be the hardcore football fans like yourself or, um, coaches in the past, talk about how they like the joint practices and they learn the most in those moments, even more so.
• 11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Then in the preseason gains and your right is like they get to see the players.
• 11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They're working with in more scenarios They're potentially working with and preseason games have more What ifs kind of things is like what if something goes wrong?
• 12:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean like in all of a sudden you are three and out in this That the third or that you're managing instead of looking at players you're managing the game and and maybe you're not coaching them up in the moment and that say in that sense
• 12:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But I still think this is, I look, the preseason will come back to this is how about this, and without getting bogged down in the Buffalo beat down.
• 12:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina, the preseason does not matter.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The score does it matter, but getting better matters.
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  [UNKNOWN]: right, being better matters.
• 12:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And one of the things that we were so excited about after the Hall of Fame game is that the team looked composed.
• 12:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like they executed plays when they were called.
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  [UNKNOWN]: There wasn't a bunch of, there weren't a bunch of penalties.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The offense, while it's not scheming up seem to create space and move the ball at times.
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  [UNKNOWN]: None of that happens in this last preseason game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Carolina, what I would say is this at what point?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Fans can fan, we can freak out.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But at what point?
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I think this for the preseason is good, Cody, as you're talking about like, you know, going against another team is that or you get to see the players that you want to see, we saw players that canalice and Morgan thought were good enough to be back up
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  [UNKNOWN]: in these preseason games.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They saw against another team how the difference in the level of competition, even in those small moments in these unideal situations.
• 13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm tired of here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't have Damian Lewis.
• 13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm tired of here.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't have Robert on.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's just man.
• 13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: At some point, those are guys that are on your team.
• 13:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And if they're not good enough to play at all,
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  [UNKNOWN]: Could God, right, the drop off should not be that much.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So Cody at what point does fans forget the fans freak out at what time does Dave can Alice Dan Morgan start to be concerned about how behind schedule.
• 14:14
  [UNKNOWN]: They're strong crew looks like in the small moments or do they bury their head in the sand and say we're doing the process We're doing the right things.
• 14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: We're practicing hard, which he said our guys are laying it on the line and practice to fight for things Right in there.
• 14:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, they're doing so great.
• 14:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not it did not show in that game small Very simple small sample set, but at what point does that infiltrate the players minds the coaches minds the GM minds peppers mind forget us fans go
• 14:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, and listen, that was a bit of a story line too.
• 14:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave Canal is the press conference, and he was very kind of non-shallot about the play of the back-ups.
• 14:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He really kind of endorsed Chandler's Evala and said, we'd likely just done before we have confidence in him moving forward.
• 14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We know who he is, he said, we know who he is, it's the normal code speak.
• 15:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, I think that us fans, we don't get a lot out of that because we're saying Chandler's of all the sucks.
• 15:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Like if we're all having to depend on Chandler's of all the Lewis goes down this year or hunt either one of them.
• 15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We're in a gang on trouble, man.
• 15:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Chandler Zavala did not look good.
• 15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: If you look at that game, Chandler Zavala was getting blown up on every single snap.
• 15:37
  [UNKNOWN]: When Jonathan Brooks was tackled behind the liner scrimmage, it was because of Zavala.
• 15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: When Bryan's young was having his pocket collapsed on him, it was because of Zavala.
• 15:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like for the most part, everyone else did a fairly decent job.
• 15:54
  [UNKNOWN]: has also been about a topic of conversation.
• 15:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He did not look great and then know himself, but I think Monroe Freeling looked apart, especially for someone who thought he was playing left tackle before the start of the season.
• 16:09
  [UNKNOWN]: He looked decent, Walker had a massive block.
• 16:14
  [UNKNOWN]: where he put someone into the dirt.
• 16:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's highlighted by Baldinger, right?
• 16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you got these moments where people did things that are good individual players, but I'm not speaking on individual play.
• 16:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That's actually the thing that I'm least interested in is, yeah, you could say it's a Vala got blown up CK.
• 16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: How much CK were you able to watch of this preseason game?
• 16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I know it's hard for you to get these in your area.
• 16:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I watched the pretty much all the starters, and then I watched a little bit of Kenny Pickett and Okay, when I went at that point in time, I was like, okay, well, we're back to the, you know, unexciting offense and things like that.
• 16:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was, it was clear to me at least seeing the difference between Kenny Pickett and Haynes King.
• 17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: That I don't, I still don't understand why Kenny Pickett's number two right now.
• 17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, hands is dealing with an injury.
• 17:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I do want to highlight at B's needs 82 comment.
• 17:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, man, I'm glad to see you back in the chat.
• 17:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I know we doubt it back.
• 17:16
  [UNKNOWN]: She said with our starters, but why so day and night difference, we looked disconnected more than I was expecting and it was discouraging to see.
• 17:25
  [UNKNOWN]: This has got my lead to this question with UCK is that we can hone in on individual players like Savala being crap or missing certain players at interior lines, so then you got to put these guys in.
• 17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Somehow Bryce has missed, I think, a ton of criticism.
• 17:42
  [UNKNOWN]: or like he has somehow not received any of the criticism to the level that he generally would have been.
• 17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like said, oh gosh, man, it's either guy, it's either guy.
• 17:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He haven't had that conversation.
• 17:55
  [UNKNOWN]: For me though, it's not about what individual players did.
• 17:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not about the result of a certain play like that that starters need to go and score bunny touchdowns and look so great.
• 18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: For me, CKS, how do you explain a team that believed that they were getting better from year to year, from day to day, from week to week, not looking like they've progressed, looking like the Panthers that were accustomed to, and that is a bunch of nothing, and then we just say, oh, the preseason doesn't matter.
• 18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope they get it together by the regular season.
• 18:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that there's an easy answer to it.
• 18:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Unfortunately, I think we have to acknowledge that this is literally the first preseason game.
• 18:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we have to be able to acknowledge that, right?
• 18:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the second though.
• 18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think you've got to also keep in mind that with Joe Brady starting out as the head coach of the bills,
• 19:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we also acknowledge that he probably had a little bit of he wanted to show something with his first precies and show a game?
• 19:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, clearly, it wasn't just him.
• 19:13
  [UNKNOWN]: DJ Moore sitting there trying to do, what is that?
• 19:16
  [UNKNOWN]: What's the drill that they do?
• 19:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Where they try to smash his little drama drill?
• 19:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he's calling out Alan and DJ Moore.
• 19:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I kind of feed families to show.
• 19:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But my point, I'm absolutely said, like, they clearly had something more to prove than we did.
• 19:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't believe that at all though, but why not?
• 19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I think this is that I don't think they, I's not even needed having to prove maybe Joe Brady wants to prove, maybe he's got to feels like he's got to possess him.
• 19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But like I feel like Josh Allen, and then can come out and just do that on any day.
• 19:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it is like they're not.
• 19:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that's what, I thought they played to the level of what good teams play in any circumstance.
• 20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: right as they didn't do anything fantastic they had moments where things you know kind of contracted they didn't do everything perfect but they didn't look stuck in the mud every play right but but the the point I'm making is in my opinion I saw their offense and it was way less vanilla than our offense
• 20:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like what we saw was a team that came out to prove not only that Joe Brady belonged, but that he had, I mean, in my opinion, I think the difference in what we saw was not just performance on our offense, but they felt like they were trying to prove something.
• 20:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 20:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And my point means like, I mean, they're coming off of a bad year.
• 20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They cut they fired their head coach Joe Brady is going up against the team that fired him saying that he wasn't worth anything and then you have DJ Moore, who's gone up there, who is playing the panthers who traded him for, you know, I was definitely on his shoulder and clearly wanted to thrive.
• 21:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think this offense, this this this this bills offense came out and probably showed more of their hand than most teams are going to be willing to show in the preseason.
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 21:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say just so too, but can I just say this real quick before you go.
• 21:26
  [UNKNOWN]: This is why I always say.
• 21:30
  [UNKNOWN]: like I don't think that the preseason is that big of a deal in preparing your team for the start of the season.
• 21:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Like how many people can actually see here and say anything we did against Buffalo somehow helped us be better for Chicago.
• 21:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I can say I can say I can say I can say right now.
• 21:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I know.
• 21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: This is where I'm going to I'm going to answer your question, but I'm going to ask my question first because I think it is relevant to it.
• 21:58
  [UNKNOWN]: CK says that they they they were way less vanilla.
• 22:03
  [UNKNOWN]: right what because they and i'm not being i'm not trying to be a jerksy k is like are they motion dj more they put them in motion it's not like they were scheming and doing revealing anything is they they motioned a player one play they got in space they made some connections Josh Allen play made made a couple of good throws they moved the ball they didn't complete everything they didn't convert everything
• 22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: But as if you look at this Cody is like, and as I'll ask you this, is do you believe that the Carolina Panthers, whether or not they weren't, they said, oh, we could have been less vanilla, whatever the hell that means.
• 22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm saying it's like, really, is everybody just run run past past one team did a couple and they converted the other team didn't do any conversions at all.
• 22:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think that the Carolina Panthers coaching staff walked back away from that game and said,
• 22:57
  [UNKNOWN]: We are farther behind schedule than we thought we were after that game.
• 23:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but then again, you're not playing your starting two guards.
• 23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my god, I have to have to have it in our fucking half of our own.
• 23:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's matters.
• 23:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He said matters, but we don't have to pay you guys.
• 23:15
  [UNKNOWN]: You paid a hundred million dollars between the two of them to protect my son.
• 23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And neither of them are out there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So you're going to let the buffalo brother hunt missed a season.
• 23:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And then all of a sudden, the kick has taken the dirt like now they're just putting
• 23:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And it knows it.
• 23:33
  [UNKNOWN]: What happens, you think, then, if the Carolina Panthers don't have those players in week one, or one of those players.
• 23:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you just going to be like, well, I mean, if we had Robert on, we'd be a fucking super bull team.
• 23:44
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's what I think this is an excuse for not being able to get a first down.
• 23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying you got to go out there and be a world beaten team.
• 23:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think the Panthers need to be that are going to be a 12 win team without their best players, but do you think that the Panthers without Damian Lewis and Robert Hunt are going to be?
• 24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: up testing to a four win season.
• 24:08
  [UNKNOWN]: No, but I think that this if we don't have those guys.
• 24:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it could be a four win team.
• 24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: My point is this, if you don't play your starters, your backups are getting more and more reps against starting caliber players and the Buffalo bills, your battle testing your depth and seeing what you have on your roster.
• 24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time,
• 24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: like I just the there was nothing in that game that helped the Carolina Panthers be better for week one and there's another thing or we're going to have the same conversation if we go out and look like ass against the giant waters too.
• 24:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 24:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Is why can't the Panthers not look like ass?
• 24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: That's, I'm not asking them to be great.
• 25:00
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: How about that we have a fourth-year quarterback?
• 25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: We have a third-year head coach.
• 25:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Correct?
• 25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Third-year head coach.
• 25:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You've got, why can the Panthers, that they don't need to show me that everything is perfect and that there's no room for improvement?
• 25:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But why do they have to look like a thing where I have to explain a way?
• 25:27
  [UNKNOWN]: every potential weakness as just like it doesn't fucking matter.
• 25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know who you're putting it on.
• 25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Why, why were they that was Buffalo just that much better?
• 25:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Was it was it price not being able to control the offense like why was that so bad then?
• 25:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that this is where my real concern is is that I don't think that this is a sign of an individual weakness.
• 25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, is like, I don't think we can just say, oh, well, Bryce isn't the guy.
• 25:57
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a, I mean, he had to play.
• 25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't do great.
• 26:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't have a good rep where he could be took a sack.
• 26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And it looked like he could have thrown the ball away where he can't anticipate a throw.
• 26:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's not that one play.
• 26:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying the collective starters who were 80% of the Carolina Panther starters collectively looked
• 26:14
  [UNKNOWN]: worse than I anticipated them to look.
• 26:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they look behind schedule.
• 26:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I'm going to say is that the Panthers that don't need them to go and score 12 touchdowns.
• 26:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even need them marched down the field.
• 26:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I just don't think it looked like they could have pulled off a play.
• 26:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They didn't look like they could pull off a play.
• 26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt like it was behind schedule.
• 26:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the Panthers should look better regardless of injuries.
• 26:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't look
• 26:43
  [UNKNOWN]: It looked like they had to complete the different game plan, everything, yeah, it was it was a bit talking about night and day difference is it came in you were fucking geeked watching that cardinals game and against the bills.
• 26:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, it was abysmal.
• 27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely abysmal.
• 27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, but always asking the same old questions, how much stock do we put into this?
• 27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You're saying they're behind schedule.
• 27:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not disagreeing with your Tony, but it absolutely matters when you don't have
• 27:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Damian Lewis and Robert Hunt.
• 27:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It just simply does.
• 27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And then by the way, we're going to have even more music.
• 27:24
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, it doesn't matter.
• 27:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I just feel like this is there's an opportunity for us to have to play several games throughout this season without the guys that we expect to play.
• 27:35
  [UNKNOWN]: and is that is that mean that the Carolina Panthers and I thought that and one of the things I've gotten on and I'm sorry, I'm so emotional about this and so raved up.
• 27:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I told you I needed to get a life a little life in me before the show is guess the energy drain is kicking in.
• 27:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But one of the things that I so was committed to about how good that this free agency was, that this draft was, that the continued growth of this team was is that we did not feel like we were
• 28:04
  [UNKNOWN]: paper ready only like is that this team had a little bit more juice to it just in everything having to go right and the first time that we have I mean and yes this is a collective like the two guards but I really think there's a chance in this we've watched this paythers offensive line they're going to be hurt we don't even have ultimately the starting five period Taylor
• 28:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, Monroe Freeland.
• 28:31
  [UNKNOWN]: You didn't want to do that originally.
• 28:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you've got a free agent last minute kind of signing, which was great.
• 28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, in in what Walker.
• 28:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I have a hold on like a wall or thank you.
• 28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to I'm just my mind's racing here.
• 28:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I just think this is that, yes, I understand that there are these issues, but I just felt like it should have we should have collectively when we put our starters out there just looked a little more of a a little bit more and it would have been one thing if it was just one three and out then the second three and out came then the third three and out came and it just was like nothing.
• 29:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was just disappointed.
• 29:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that the Panthers offense was was ready to move forward and progress, but I think the same exact things are lingering right now that are facing all of us is all of the questions right now continue to be.
• 29:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Can the Carolina Panthers move the ball in score?
• 29:27
  [UNKNOWN]: and I don't care about fourth quarter.
• 29:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Come back anymore.
• 29:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care about this.
• 29:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I care about each and every week just having a viable offense that can put up more than 20 that can get in your defense and chance to help you or to win on their own.
• 29:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this comment earlier and I'll let you take over because I know I'm just
• 29:45
  [UNKNOWN]: pounding and getting back here.
• 29:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to get to this comment when you're done.
• 29:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this, uh, jouse 182 says, you know, we're right on schedule from last year.
• 29:54
  [UNKNOWN]: One week, we look like well, Peter's in the next week.
• 29:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Look like asks.
• 29:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is it.
• 30:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It is the, the
• 30:02
  [UNKNOWN]: thing is, you know, we are right where I just was ready for a team to go forward.
• 30:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I was ready for this.
• 30:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not for Bryce, you know, to be a 5,000 yard passer.
• 30:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready for him to be a 3800 yard passer.
• 30:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready for a team act.
• 30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, to continue to exhale to maybe for us to stop just saying, Jim, a coker is the best, but that nobody knows about.
• 30:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And then actually just move the freaking ball and score a couple of touchdowns, not the preseason, but in the game, and I'm worried
• 30:31
  [UNKNOWN]: and uh... don't you see k i'm i'm highlighting this comment by Stephen Bailey and you might think that it's unfair but i do think that there is something to be said about this is as all teams have to do with injuries you have to find a way to win
• 30:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That is where the special leaders show up like Josh Allen.
• 30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a great kind of thing.
• 30:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't have that.
• 30:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And you see, this is my thing.
• 30:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, people will think that I'm a Brysion here.
• 30:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I call myself a Brysion realist, but at the end of the day, even if you have a good excuse as to why Brysion didn't play well,
• 31:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Eventually, people are tired of these excuses, man.
• 31:11
  [UNKNOWN]: There's always a reason why Bryce doesn't look good or play well.
• 31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It's over, didn't have hunt.
• 31:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Over, didn't have Louis.
• 31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And I have already said, I thought that was a major reason why we look so bad.
• 31:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Chandler's a volatile look like a turn style out there.
• 31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But I do think that you have quarterbacks that are magic makers versus quarterbacks that are role players and I feel like more and more we're seeing that Bryce Young is who we thought he was he is a role player and we're around him.
• 31:46
  [UNKNOWN]: has to be really well calculated and meticulous and drawn out and it has to be very well protected.
• 31:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone has to be able to get open before Bryce can show you that kind of special.
• 32:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We can't learn this specifically and only from this preseason moment.
• 32:06
  [UNKNOWN]: In fact, Bryce Young has evaded any criticism from, I guess, the larger media during this port from fans overall, and really, I don't feel like we're bringing it at them at all here.
• 32:17
  [UNKNOWN]: You're talking about the guy that would be the first and most critical, I feel like to point out somebody is saying, it's always the guards.
• 32:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the guards.
• 32:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the guards.
• 32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: One of the things though, that is true that we saw last season, CK, that I don't know if this, this, this pre, I don't think the preseason told us this, but you got to wonder, is I don't care what fans think about Bryce, if you love him, you hate him, you think he is a role player, thinkers not.
• 32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It starts to make it feel like that opposing defenses are just saying, you know what?
• 32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Make Bryce beat us.
• 32:49
  [UNKNOWN]: make him beat us.
• 32:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's the formula that teams are approaching Carolina, and they will approach until he can beat them under the rest.
• 33:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's reasonable to have that belief because, I mean, unfortunately, I mean, when we saw what people were saying on across the league about Brasion, even within division, you know, with that thing we were talking
• 33:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, if that's the guy they want moving forward, we're perfectly fine with it.
• 33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I think that there's probably some disrespect that actually does exist within the NFL when it comes to brace.
• 33:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, some of that, you know, warranted, but, um, I think, uh, I think that what I, this is the part that I've always,
• 33:36
  [UNKNOWN]: wished that Bryce was is that he would take what people are saying and use that as fuel and he never is that person and I just I feel like even when you ask him like every time they ask him that his his answer is I don't I don't get motivation by you know focusing on those things
• 33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And I just, I don't know, I think there's a fire that you get when you take that stuff and you're like able to internalize it and use it for your own, like, you just, let me prove the, you prove you wrong type of mentality.
• 34:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And I wish that the fact that there are people out there that don't believe in Bryce, wish that was something that he talked about his fuel.
• 34:20
  [UNKNOWN]: maybe he will one day and maybe it actually does fuel him and he's just not going to say that publicly.
• 34:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But I just I think that there's I think he's that's the part that I think we all can agree is we've missed a little bit from Bryce.
• 34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, of course.
• 34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I can't believe I'm saying this.
• 34:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish that he was online more.
• 34:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish you got to see the quote on quote.
• 34:41
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he doesn't want none of that dude.
• 34:43
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't, he doesn't need it.
• 34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Why?
• 34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it is that.
• 34:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, don't salvage is what I think.
• 34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: The reality, the reality of situation is enough pressure right now.
• 34:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think everybody, you know what I'm saying is this, the chat's cooking by the way.
• 34:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this.
• 35:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess this is at Lou.
• 35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Geez, Tony, it's only year four.
• 35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Give King Price time to cook, right?
• 35:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, again, people are gonna listen to this and be like, it's the pre-season, it's the pre-season.
• 35:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not talking about this game.
• 35:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We're talking about how this team, I don't think, looks ahead of schedule.
• 35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: They look behind schedule.
• 35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And at that point, some of it is gonna have to come back to Bryce.
• 35:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And KG73 says, the reason they're not criticizing, listen to this, nobody's criticizing because we are conditioned.
• 35:29
  [UNKNOWN]: that this is just what Bryce is that we're like conditioned into like is like now I will say then my final comment and let you guys cook now and I just said that over is Bryce Young has got your four here after being a bench at one point.
• 35:46
  [UNKNOWN]: At the end of this experiment, whether Bryce Young is the future quarterback after this year and he has a great season or if he doesn't have a good season, he's not the quarterback of the future and likely not the quarterback even in his fifth year optional care if they got it or not.
• 36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: You cannot say there is no reasonable situation that Carolina did not give the time
• 36:15
  [UNKNOWN]: In this league, I think that they did the one thing that everybody says that teams just can't do and that's be patient.
• 36:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they have done everything and they're given it all to Bryce this year.
• 36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You're four four four years, I don't think you find that many places, Cody.
• 36:35
  [UNKNOWN]: and you can only ask people to be patient for so long.
• 36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And by the way, for my end of it, remember, I don't even want the starters playing preseason football.
• 36:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So then if you're gonna try them out there and then they look like shit, then no one can tell me that I can't criticize what I'm looking at, even though it's a vanilla offensive scheme going up against a vanilla defense.
• 37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not even looking like a dog shit.
• 37:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You've been very, I'm almost worried if you've been body snatched because you have not been critical.
• 37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And my back to what you asked is that what benefit is there for anybody playing the preseason?
• 37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the benefit comes to a dose of reality check.
• 37:25
  [UNKNOWN]: to this coaching staff, to the players, to they think that everything in camp, every camp for every team looks great.
• 37:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Players look great.
• 37:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We had a great practice.
• 37:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You ever had a coach just come out and say, this has been the worst fuck camp I ever had in my life.
• 37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Fuck your team is a, no, everything is always great.
• 37:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this is a reality check to them.
• 37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That they're not on the schedule that they should or thought they were.
• 37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 37:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm done with it, man.
• 37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm wanting to see good football.
• 38:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And then again, by the way, I also know that I'm in the minority with my preseason taking, pantheon says they need practice.
• 38:07
  [UNKNOWN]: KG72 says we aren't that squad.
• 38:09
  [UNKNOWN]: They haven't earned the right preseason.
• 38:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I understand.
• 38:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been on this take for many of the years now, but if they go out there and they look like shit, I'm going to say that they look like shit.
• 38:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm going to say that I'm tired of hearing these excuses for why they look like shit.
• 38:31
  [UNKNOWN]: One more topic, and we'll go to the calls.
• 38:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go back to the joint practice of the preseason game.
• 38:39
  [UNKNOWN]: What tell me again, just because I'm so him, I feel right now?
• 38:44
  [UNKNOWN]: What do we should we anticipate out of these practices?
• 38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: What are we hearing that the Panthers want to do?
• 38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Want to learn about their team?
• 38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: They say, oh, all I've heard is this.
• 38:59
  [UNKNOWN]: From the couple articles I read, is that the Carolina Panthers plan to have substantial time for their starters to get reps in the practice.
• 39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I heard.
• 39:09
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think the Panthers are gonna do in the preseason game?
• 39:14
  [UNKNOWN]: do you think they want to run this back out like they did last week and see improvement?
• 39:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think they are thinking it's time to conceal this and just focus on health and self wellness in the background for the regular season?
• 39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: What are you things going to happen in this Jacksonville preseason game when it comes to seeing this start it particularly the offense?
• 39:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll be brief, and then I'll let CK jump in here.
• 39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: To me, it's matchups.
• 39:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they want to see team Mac versus Travis Hunter.
• 39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they want to see how this offensive line holds up against a fairly decent Jacksonville defensive line.
• 40:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I remember this is a playoff team last year.
• 40:03
  [UNKNOWN]: they went toe to toe with Buffalo in the playoffs.
• 40:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is a good team.
• 40:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think, you know, Tony, we're talking about how far they are along and that there's offense and this team in general were a little bit behind the curve.
• 40:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Or to me, when you play a team like the giant wires, you do see how behind the curve you actually are or how ahead of the curve you actually are.
• 40:27
  [UNKNOWN]: You already mentioned the offensive line.
• 40:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You have Monroe freely playing at Wright Tackle.
• 40:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You didn't expect that to be the case.
• 40:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, we know for a fact that we're getting back Louis and Hunt, that's going to be a big deal.
• 40:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So now you're starting to see more of the cohesion that is necessary for your offensive line as a unit to gel.
• 40:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And let's be real you want to see your defensive backs against Trevor Lawrence and see if they can take them all away from them and just see how aggressive you are going to be able to play
• 41:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, everybody do do though.
• 41:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You want your free agent picks to be looking like the guys.
• 41:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You just paid millions of dollars to come here and ball the fuck out.
• 41:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They're also going to be here regardless for a significant amount of time.
• 41:34
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, I'm surprised at where Cody went and he went matchups.
• 41:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He wants to see individual players.
• 41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: T-Mac.
• 41:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the T-Mac is like the only guy that on the damn group that I don't need to see right now.
• 41:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Unless I guess you're trying to see how he deals with the weight.
• 41:50
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you think, do you think, do you think the coaching staff wants to get this starting unit out there and see them do a little better?
• 41:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think that they're feeling pressure for them to look a little better?
• 42:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Or do you think that they are avoiding the noise and kind of go in the Cody route and that is, work, we believe in the process.
• 42:12
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll see some matchups.
• 42:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't need to prove anything.
• 42:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I think that they are learning from, in my opinion, the mistakes of the past two years.
• 42:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and that is not playing starters during the preseason in any substantial, uh, way.
• 42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I think both years the offense took way too long to get jailed together, and I think that this is a coaching staff that learned that.
• 42:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's a positive, at least in my mind, because that means there are things that they see and they're willing to adjust to based on those facts.
• 42:54
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I think they do see value in these reps, and I think they see that there's some benefit to them moving forward with making that a making this a priority.
• 43:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Meaning the preseason.
• 43:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You brought up earlier that the idea of Joe Brady and the first preseason debut in their stadium, the young coach that's supposed to spark this offense to get them over the Kansas city chiefs, even though he was offensive coordinator and a team that they fired that coach, right?
• 43:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I guess that's, but you can see that need, right, that
• 43:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm starting, I wonder here, I think that this has got to creep in with the Panthers coaching staff, particularly with Dave Canales, and then going down to Brad, it's it.
• 43:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think the pressure is on Dave Canales that his team should look better.
• 43:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that the Carolina Panthers are going to put a lot of effort into proving to
• 44:06
  [UNKNOWN]: that these guys are better than that any of that showed him buffalo and also that brings me some concern to in a way that they are that noise is going to hit them.
• 44:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'll ask you this guys is how much do you expect the starters to play in this preseason game?
• 44:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be out there?
• 44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I know I tell you one thing is Dave Canalis is going to learn if he keeps his job after this year, which I'm not saying he's on the hot seat, but he's always on the hot seat
• 44:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I promise you that.
• 44:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he is not solidified himself into anything.
• 44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Right?
• 44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He earned himself another season each season.
• 44:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I tell you one thing, if you said CK, he's learning from the woes of last year of not playing the starters.
• 44:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he should fucking keep his mouth shut about how many snaps they're going to play.
• 44:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it's like, oh, 15 to 20 and then he was like, yeah, we didn't earn anymore.
• 45:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It would have been the third quarter.
• 45:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're going to come out there and say,
• 45:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's it, less news, less information because we looked at that and you're going where's the other seven plays they couldn't get them and this criticism criticism criticism code how much do you think the starters play in this game do they play them as a unit or they're just going to mismatch them like you hate in this past game no I think they're going to do about the same amount that they did against the bills that they're going to see about 10 snaps.
• 45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: for the starters.
• 45:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And let's hope that we can master a first down.
• 45:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We only had one first down and it was called that due to penalty.
• 45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: That shows you how terrible we were.
• 45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I want to merge down a few.
• 45:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see our first team offense put some points on the board.
• 45:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, that's important or else why are we doing this?
• 45:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Why are we doing this if they can't march down field and at least get into field goal right.
• 46:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say not march.
• 46:03
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my point.
• 46:04
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not marching down field.
• 46:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just look like you can win a play.
• 46:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But what does that mean?
• 46:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just one play.
• 46:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like there was some, again, this is why I bring up.
• 46:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's not about winning one play.
• 46:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That is like, oh, we won one play.
• 46:20
  [UNKNOWN]: This has been the problem of this Panthers team over the last four years.
• 46:25
  [UNKNOWN]: is you walk out there against an equal, not an equal competition.
• 46:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You're going out there on a Sunday, against another professional team, and you just can't simply execute what is average.
• 46:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 46:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying push the ball 80 yards down big plays this and that what I'm talking about is get a run and it be positive talking about getting a positive positive pass and play what I say when I say when a down I don't mean that just wind one down I want them to look like they can win a down.
• 46:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, we called a run play.
• 47:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's vanilla or not.
• 47:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Hat on hat, we ran the ball and we got three yards.
• 47:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need nine.
• 47:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need 12.
• 47:08
  [UNKNOWN]: What I don't need is one.
• 47:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Go on.
• 47:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We could not be a further apart.
• 47:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That to me, if that's all you're want, fucking get their ass to the bench.
• 47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That does fucking nothing to do with you at all.
• 47:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, if you get them, I want more than one first.
• 47:27
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I understand.
• 47:28
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're saying to do that, why would we say to the same thing?
• 47:32
  [UNKNOWN]: we're saying the same thing.
• 47:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You want to see some competency to see them be able to move the ball these three yards.
• 47:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm saying I want way more than that.
• 47:41
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're running up against vanilla defenses, what are you running for eight yards a clip?
• 47:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Now you're going to have your starting offensive linemen out there.
• 47:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see them move down the field and at least get
• 48:00
  [UNKNOWN]: but it needs to be more than just this.
• 48:03
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're going to put the starters out there, you need to give your fans something that cling onto exactly what the buffalo bills did.
• 48:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, and you're right, maybe we are saying the same thing is maybe I actually need less you're saying I'd rather not see it.
• 48:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I need this order not see it what I just want to see is that the Carolina Panthers are becoming a team that can compete on any given Sunday and any given arena whether that is in a preseason game when you're not playing your starters where you just don't look like.
• 48:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, we didn't have this.
• 48:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't have this.
• 48:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't have this is like, hey, no wins.
• 48:45
  [UNKNOWN]: No, nothing don't need that.
• 48:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want us to not look out match like you are a division two team playing a team that's, oh, Hall of Fame quarterback.
• 48:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, oh, of course they're supposed to look like that.
• 48:59
  [UNKNOWN]: competency is the minimum I want.
• 49:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's go ahead and take some fan calls because I'm upset.
• 49:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I know that the fans, I don't think they're upset.
• 49:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I think everybody has been beaten down to be honest.
• 49:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I challenge Panther fans right now to reinvigorate their disdain for it would be
• 49:26
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 49:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 49:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Even it.
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He would be happy with mediocrity.
• 49:32
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I would not have had that.
• 49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the most obvious mediocre.
• 49:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Last year we won one and we had one.
• 49:40
  [UNKNOWN]: We won one.
• 49:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We lost one.
• 49:42
  [UNKNOWN]: That was mediocre.
• 49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I want Panther fans to expect the best.
• 49:49
  [UNKNOWN]: because we have built this team long enough that you should not expect anything fucking less than the best from the raining, defending, and absolutely south champions, baby.
• 50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: The number is two, five, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight, pay the nation join the conversation.
• 50:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Let us know how you feel about what you have seen.
• 50:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So what do your thoughts on cat calling?
• 50:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty sh**t. They shouldn't do that, somebody.
• 50:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And how did that make you feel?
• 50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: very incomparable.
• 50:18
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you think Kaka only makes the person feel?
• 50:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels good like Hey guys, you're gonna be drinking some on in.
• 50:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't get a chance to watch the Panthers build game of down and Florida helping my mom out.
• 50:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Good for you.
• 50:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I did listen in to you guys and it sounded like you weren't doing pretty good, so I don't know.
• 50:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope things came feel better soon.
• 51:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But, um, at least for me, I was able to watch the IFL championship, and I won't bore you with the score, but the Arizona Radlers beat the Green Bay blizzard.
• 51:10
  [UNKNOWN]: There were some
• 51:12
  [UNKNOWN]: that were tied up in that hola fair maximator played for Green Bay last year and couldn't win it in the championship came back with Arizona and faces old team and finally won the championship and I don't know.
• 51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It was exciting with a great game.
• 51:28
  [UNKNOWN]: But, uh, call it and talk about
• 51:42
  [UNKNOWN]: What the hell am I doing or whatever and proceed to whoop his Yes, on that game with his mad me tell you.
• 51:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have the staff on that game's Bryson does But if you if you know how to play the game you can get him to towards his body and some weird positions when he is trying to complete a path and he can run too So I don't know if he doesn't ever play for the parents again at least he plays for me and Man 27 so I'm
• 52:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I suggest all you guys go out there and get man 27, so you can play as pain's king yourself.
• 52:14
  [UNKNOWN]: That's about all I got for you right now, looking forward to the stack skills game, and I'm confident we are going to get a win.
• 52:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We need an age verification of the person you played in the in Madden like C. K. What do you think the best ages like if you're going to like say?
• 52:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The ideal age to play Madden is it somewhere that's 14 to 30 14 to 24 20 to 40 like is where does the sweet spot for Madden and the reason I ask you this is I played.
• 52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: the college football game with my son, I got that EAs, like so last year's college football game, we're playing it.
• 52:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And I realized because I'm a pro football fan the way I think about offences and things like this, it really doesn't match the schematics of college football, like their run plays or past plays.
• 53:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, run here, it's third, it's second and three,
• 53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So, is that I'm too old, my thing is it's not my age, it's my pro mindset for the college game that makes it problematic for how college football works.
• 53:32
  [UNKNOWN]: past is the run.
• 53:35
  [UNKNOWN]: What's the ideal age or young people at a disadvantage in Madden is the sweet spot 28?
• 53:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't think the young people are at a disadvantage in Madden at all.
• 53:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I think, uh, I think that it just depends upon, uh, I can get on
• 53:57
  [UNKNOWN]: or just stomped by some kids who just love Madden, that would already have to have the hours.
• 54:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Kids are better than adults.
• 54:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they got their hours.
• 54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, they're, you know, just scientifically speaking, they have a better reaction time than adults.
• 54:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And so they're able to, you know, that's why they tend to be better at first person shooters and things like that is because they do have that ability to see things a little bit more quickly than we do and react to that thing a little more quickly.
• 54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I think that gives, you know, younger people a bit of an upper hand, but the primary demographic I would argue is going to be people that are in, you know, the, in their adult ages.
• 54:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I would argue right now, you're probably seeing more of the late 20s, early 30s playing Madden than, than all at the other demographics, but I don't think that I would go, I don't think I would be willing to put money down against a 15 year old who plays Madden versus
• 54:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's 24 to 28 is probably the sweet spot they've become an adult but they're still gamers.
• 55:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I spoke this kid that I go to the gym with Madden last year on Xbox.
• 55:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I never played Xbox, but the reason I smoked him is just because I didn't do it.
• 55:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't even know football.
• 55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I just know schematically a little bit about down in distance about what to call and different things.
• 55:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was like just the knowledge of football helped me in that.
• 55:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that the young kids might have super young my I'd be more scared to play at 19 or 24 year old than I would be a 14 year old at Madden.
• 55:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I would be terrified of that 14 year old at Call of Duty though.
• 55:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's fair.
• 55:44
  [UNKNOWN]: real quick to superchats see doll with the $2cd bomb says long Australian Panthers podcast on YouTube appreciate your brother and then the whole deal with the $199
• 55:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Sean and Dermit may be back next year, he's in North Carolina.
• 56:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Please let it happen.
• 56:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love that so freaking much, dude.
• 56:09
  [UNKNOWN]: If that's not bad.
• 56:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Willie actually is the the real question.
• 56:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not going to answer it right now.
• 56:15
  [UNKNOWN]: The question is if Sean McDermit back, is it at DC or head coach?
• 56:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, really, you want to throw a monkey in the monkey monkey ranch in the monkey works.
• 56:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's take
• 56:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Not more recent.
• 56:28
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to get all calls in, but I'm going to balance a little bit closer to the timeline to see, because I'm sure they got a lot to say about the pod.
• 56:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what's going on, see through his pants and it's for Charlotte man.
• 56:40
  [UNKNOWN]: What about the minute, I hope you boys are having a good Tuesday.
• 56:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Just wanted to call in.
• 56:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Talk about last week's preseason and kind of what's coming this week, you know, we got the jacks this week.
• 56:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Join practice there and then the game on Friday.
• 56:57
  [UNKNOWN]: hoping for good intention, environment versus the jacks who are good team and hopefully we come out in no injuries.
• 57:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So, a pair of that, yeah, man, less than a month away from week one, really excited.
• 57:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Just kind of wanted to touch on the preseason last week.
• 57:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I watched the game with a little
• 57:22
  [UNKNOWN]: caveat knowing like a lot of the coverage isn't stuff that we're going to be running with super vanilla, um, but I was still disappointed to say the least, um, I really thought for one, I'll just start with the defense.
• 57:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I will say I think everyone is kind of overreacting about this defense, um, you know, you didn't have more out there or
• 57:52
  [UNKNOWN]: bland vanilla covered and i think i have a couple places miscommunication i will say the only area of the defense that i really just don't like in the line back or two spot is because i saw closet chairless looking lost trevin wallest looking loss and you need guys just they don't deserve to be started as let alone second stringers in my opinion so but that's for the other addition you know deven Lloyd made his impact looks great
• 58:16
  [UNKNOWN]: trailing philips man i mean on that d line with princely do be in all those defensive tackles think we're going to have something there this year man like i'm really excited about that going into the future defense we will be fine my jack you know he said like he got mixed up on a coverage on one play uh hold on he's still going
• 58:44
  [UNKNOWN]: overall, and they just, they got two big-time ads.
• 58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they'll be great.
• 58:49
  [UNKNOWN]: My main concern is with this offense, man.
• 58:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And I've been continuously set it on Twitter, on in chats, and all over the place.
• 58:57
  [UNKNOWN]: A free-for-all.
• 58:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They were 27th last year, overall last year.
• 59:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And we didn't add anything to this offense.
• 59:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, we added Brasal, he got her.
• 59:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But internally now, it's like, man,
• 59:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's disappointed what I saw in the preseason, you know, couldn't even convert a first down, three and out, the offense looks stagnant, Chandler's of all a YC on the steams, like, can I was continuously misaballuist, the offensive line in the depth.
• 59:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He did this last year with Corbid and Mays, and he's doing it again this year.
• 59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So ballad doesn't deserve to be starting over a cure hand in my opinion.
• 59:32
  [UNKNOWN]: But obviously, we didn't have Rob Hunt in-game Lewis out there, but it still sucks, man.
• 59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me your thoughts.
• 59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I was embarrassed with the offense, keep motherfuckin' poundin'.
• 59:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, thank you Anthony for the call and this is the point that I am I think trying to make when it comes to the offense Cody is the defense overall we're going to go we'll go to this actually we can I don't know if you want to weave it in right now.
• 59:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We're talking about we had Joe person talking about the pros the winners and the losers and the or stock up stock down and stock down was overall.
• 1:00:05
  [UNKNOWN]: the overall defense, right?
• 1:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And questions among Panther fans about the 0 Everrow system.
• 1:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. has notably been a person that said Everrow should have been gone, whether or not he's good or not is like this was the time.
• 1:00:21
  [UNKNOWN]: People have asked about the three four system.
• 1:00:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But we watched on that first drive or those first couple of drive the first two drives while there were moments that you're like, oh, this panther's defenses isn't shutting down everything and Joe Brady and them are pulling out all the stops with emotion and whatever it may be.
• 1:00:42
  [UNKNOWN]: They did move the ball, but then there were some signs of life from defensive linemen, princely, um, and you saw Jane Phillips, right?
• 1:00:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're like, you saw Devin Walker, these guys, uh, Devin Lloyd, excuse me, Devin, I'm going to put the ball in our clip.
• 1:00:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh, what I would, I, okay, I guess that this is you play it, and then you can answer or you answer and then play it is that the
• 1:01:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're missing Derek Brown.
• 1:01:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not going.
• 1:01:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, the defense.
• 1:01:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that the defense looked completely incapable is what I'm saying is like, could they have, did they look like they're going to be the elite defense of the world?
• 1:01:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure I'm going to go there.
• 1:01:28
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't think you're sitting there going, oh, well, this defense would have been so much better like he said, oh, Derek Brown's out there, not out there.
• 1:01:37
  [UNKNOWN]: We're making a ton of excuses
• 1:01:40
  [UNKNOWN]: for this offense, but on this defense, we can say, oh, there's value there.
• 1:01:46
  [UNKNOWN]: There's value there.
• 1:01:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:01:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And like I said earlier, the free agents that you signed to be a big time difference makers on this defense, they showed out.
• 1:01:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm far less worried about the defense than I am about the offense, because some of the stuff you mentioned we didn't keep them out that long.
• 1:02:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No direct brown, but man, whenever you see Brian Baldinger already heaping praises on some of the pantose defensive players to make your training in the right direction.
• 1:02:18
  [UNKNOWN]: some big free agent signings of the Panthers to the defense.
• 1:02:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Jaylen Phillips right here, all right?
• 1:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Left tackles laid off the ball, down goes Josh Allen.
• 1:02:27
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this win right here?
• 1:02:28
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this clean inside move right here?
• 1:02:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Sweet inside swim, all right?
• 1:02:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Now we've got Josh Allen and only Josh Allen can like fight him off right here, but still he gets into make that throw.
• 1:02:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, then on the inside, double nickel right there, Devon Lloyd, like he's going to read this play as soon as the ball's tossed, look at the angle and watch Lloyd fly.
• 1:02:52
  [UNKNOWN]: That nobody could cut them off right here.
• 1:02:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Woohoo!
• 1:02:54
  [UNKNOWN]: For lost one.
• 1:02:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I love that right there, boy.
• 1:02:57
  [UNKNOWN]: The lead's leading Russian from a year ago.
• 1:02:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And then on this inside blitz right here, coming right at Josh Alm, beating the back right here.
• 1:03:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Inside move, now Josh Allen's flushed.
• 1:03:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Now on the run, he makes an errand throw.
• 1:03:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say those two guys that were at the top of the board in free agency made an impact in the first quarter.
• 1:03:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir, they did.
• 1:03:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, do I love sitting good linebacker play?
• 1:03:25
  [UNKNOWN]: We have not had it in such a long time.
• 1:03:29
  [UNKNOWN]: What about the fresh air, and again, even though the Buffalo Bill scored, and they were pretty much able to do what they wanted to for the most part in that game tone as you can.
• 1:03:40
  [UNKNOWN]: when you have flashes like that, that's what I really want to see from preseason football.
• 1:03:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want this my car and guys beat their main guys.
• 1:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my point, but just flipping it to the offense.
• 1:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Do I walk away from here, CK and go, Oh, the Panthers gave up a touchdown.
• 1:03:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They there was a couple of run plays that they got just beat up on and there was a lot of space and I go, oh, I'm not walking away saying the Panthers defense stinks, but what I saw was a Panthers defense that was competent at certain times in places with certain players.
• 1:04:17
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I wanted to say.
• 1:04:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my argument for the offense.
• 1:04:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Why is this not the case?
• 1:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Or I guess the case we could I mean there have been and maybe that's why there isn't as much yelling and screaming about the defense, but there has been I mean Joe person stock down was the overall defense like it should have been better the stock down should have been the overall offense
• 1:04:41
  [UNKNOWN]: That should have been it.
• 1:04:43
  [UNKNOWN]: It should have been the interior guards.
• 1:04:45
  [UNKNOWN]: The overall offense, the Panthers with this current group cannot play on Sundays.
• 1:04:53
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think we saw way too many weaknesses with this team.
• 1:04:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It was not the same team.
• 1:05:00
  [UNKNOWN]: We have seen playing effective football over the past last year, even when there was some, unfortunately.
• 1:05:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's some of the Chad has talked about.
• 1:05:13
  [UNKNOWN]: some consistency around our inconsistency, if you will, but it did not look like this is a team that had cohesion.
• 1:05:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I do think that the parts that were incredibly valuable, I'm going to go, you know, and start to flip a lot of our problems on what I saw on the defense too.
• 1:05:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We fixed a lot of our past rush issue.
• 1:05:37
  [UNKNOWN]: right with us, and I think the addition of Devon Lloyd and Jalen Thubbs are absolutely noticeable, but I cannot tell you the amount of times that we got pressured on going to be wrong, but there was a wide receiver with nobody within 15 yards of them.
• 1:05:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't even, like, if you were to compare offenses to our offense to their offense, we had tight coverage throughout the entire time.
• 1:06:09
  [UNKNOWN]: There might have been some open receivers, but there was nobody wide open.
• 1:06:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It felt like in the majority of the bills plays, the past plays, there was just a dude with nobody next to him, whether it was their first team or their second team.
• 1:06:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what it felt like to me.
• 1:06:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And that seems like it's a schematic problem more so than anything else, because we have the proper people on this team.
• 1:06:34
  [UNKNOWN]: There should be no scenario where DJ Moore is able to run a literal short crosser and have nobody even in it within.
• 1:06:46
  [UNKNOWN]: a reasonable distance from him.
• 1:06:47
  [UNKNOWN]: You mean that did you have more play with is this, he should why don't want to round nobody around.
• 1:06:53
  [UNKNOWN]: How are you letting their number one wide receiver that they just traded for?
• 1:06:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You're letting him go just for free with nobody accounting for him, right?
• 1:07:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And so to me, this again,
• 1:07:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You can call me a Eurohater, like you can call Codia, a Brace Young Hater, right?
• 1:07:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm just telling you what I saw, and what I saw was a team that, or at least from a scheme, that did not look prepared to guard actual wide receivers.
• 1:07:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That was where I felt like our weakness was on this defense, was now we flipped.
• 1:07:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Our secondary was not effective, but our past rush and our run stopping was a little bit better.
• 1:07:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So that, that was probably something that's equally as worrisome as our offense, not having any rhythm.
• 1:07:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Then on March 2, 5, 2, 2, 2, 2, 8, 50, 98, let me see.
• 1:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We listened.
• 1:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We had Anthony, let's go to the next call.
• 1:07:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to figure out how to make it.
• 1:07:56
  [UNKNOWN]: My phone doesn't just time out at two minutes.
• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:01
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• 1:08:04
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• 1:08:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The C3 podcast is the longest episode of podcast on YouTube.
• 1:08:10
  [UNKNOWN]: They go a lot every Tuesday.
• 1:08:12
  [UNKNOWN]: They got to free for all every Friday and they got to gain recaps every Sunday during the season and during pre-season.
• 1:08:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But real quick, man, this last real quick, this bill's game was embarrassing.
• 1:08:30
  [UNKNOWN]: The most embarrassing thing about it was, like, man, Bryson, I'm just gonna say that.
• 1:08:34
  [UNKNOWN]: By how those Hayes King have more pocket awareness than Bryson, as a rookie, as an undracted quarterback, an undracted free agent rookie quarterback, has more pocket awareness than Bryson.
• 1:08:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm really dumb with Bryson, you know, like there is no, what's the board I'm looking for?
• 1:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:08:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Where's the clock in his head?
• 1:08:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, man, even if I'm playing a magic football video game, I know only have like three seconds tops that don't apologize I'm throwing the ball.
• 1:09:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Even less than that, it's a play action.
• 1:09:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, like, but I don't understand there.
• 1:09:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody would get so excited about Bryce Jung and practice cousin to know people that are pretty shit up.
• 1:09:20
  [UNKNOWN]: We're pretty shit up in the fucking game, right?
• 1:09:23
  [UNKNOWN]: All that shit and practice don't mean shit to me.
• 1:09:25
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you do when the real fucking game?
• 1:09:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying and hopefully we can get to see Haynes King one more time, you know, and Haynes King's to be, and Haynes King come out and play one more game for the, for his preaches and balls out of the game.
• 1:09:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Go ahead and cook, can he pick it and make Haynes King a number two quarter back.
• 1:09:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And then Barcelona, you want to sort fucking least with C dog.
• 1:09:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it just is what it is.
• 1:09:53
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a gamer.
• 1:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a balder.
• 1:09:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I wasn't paying attention, it's all right.
• 1:10:00
  [UNKNOWN]: If a ball were, he's a game, right?
• 1:10:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to take this, you know.
• 1:10:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't even know he was from Texas.
• 1:10:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I know how he was from Texas to 2020, but that's another story.
• 1:10:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But, my night game was to press him, man, you know.
• 1:10:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Going from the Hall of Fame game and to watching the game get the bills.
• 1:10:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The only thing was to fight him with the past for us to press the league and got him into this in some looks.
• 1:10:22
  [UNKNOWN]: We would have a past for us, you know.
• 1:10:25
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll be having a confident quarterback to put a fought from the board, you know, everybody must have got man, he had a game last year, we used to point 500 yards, you know, the week after that, he had a game, we used to put 50 full yards, then even they could know how to interview, when the accident, because that was different about Bryce Jones this season, on thing he said was he's a year older, you know, that's not so let me shit.
• 1:10:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, that's not to let me anything.
• 1:10:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody get a year old.
• 1:10:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's not very good.
• 1:10:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody get this fucking check.
• 1:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't get that.
• 1:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They have a birthday every fucking year.
• 1:11:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 1:11:01
  [UNKNOWN]: See dog Brandon Bacitor for the C3 Panthers podcast.
• 1:11:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Great.
• 1:11:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I tried to.
• 1:11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I tried to tell you Tony.
• 1:11:08
  [UNKNOWN]: This handsking story.
• 1:11:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not going away, bro.
• 1:11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not going away.
• 1:11:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And I even think does a conspiracy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to show my man.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You had to tell me this hamstring is still lingering.
• 1:11:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Even still, even now, come on, dude.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're shelving them.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think they're want the controversy.
• 1:11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I think.
• 1:11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's all a hat song.
• 1:11:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I do think there is a, I don't think it's a conspiracy to shelve them.
• 1:11:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's this is that the Carolina Panthers, I think they're gonna put them on IOR.
• 1:11:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's what they're going to do because then that avoids them having to take up a roster spot.
• 1:11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I forget who I saw somebody and to untwitter.
• 1:11:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is not just me that came up with this.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I saw somebody untwitter say this right out the gate as soon as the hamstring.
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  [UNKNOWN]: injury came out is like this is playing chess right now is that oh he's got a little injury.
• 1:12:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not going to be the quarterback.
• 1:12:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't want a quarterback controversy necessarily, but we don't have the luxury of being able to stash this guy on a practice squad.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's not going
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are going to have to roster him and be willing to play him and be willing to deal with a potential controversy, I guess, but I don't think they're worried about the controversy.
• 1:12:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're worried about this is that they, and they don't think he is ready to be.
• 1:12:47
  [UNKNOWN]: the dude.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But that they're not ready to let someone else swoop in and take him away and find a way to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Stash him on IR avoid him going to the practice squad someone else poaching it.
• 1:13:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you roll in there with the price young season, a regular backup.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody's worried about
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  [UNKNOWN]: like not worried i think can you pick it is a perfect backup i really am happy i think pick it is perfect for this team competent enough but not too competent that then puts pressure and controversy on the bright young bright young has one bad game i don't think even the bright young haters are going to come out be like pick it for quarterback pick it for quarterback you have about one thing that's why there's a can that's my point Tony that's why there's
• 1:13:40
  [UNKNOWN]: sweet little baby bris to have the fear of someone breathing down his neck.
• 1:13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: A 6 foot 3 gun slanger who runs a 4, 4, 6.
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  [UNKNOWN]: looking to take that spot, damn it.
• 1:13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This is why this is why Camden couldn't ever be a backup quarterback.
• 1:14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And people, you remember that time period where people were like, and even Cam was like, I'm better than these backup quarterbacks.
• 1:14:10
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a reason that teams did not have Camden as a backup because he is better.
• 1:14:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's likely equally as good as your starter,
• 1:14:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And if your starter is struggling, you know this, I don't care if Cam's shoulder wasn't in was and this in that cam can get you a first down and he can move the chains.
• 1:14:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You can do a lot of different things.
• 1:14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He's good enough to be productive and exciting.
• 1:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why there are certain people that are built for backup quarterback rules and certain people that are not.
• 1:14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you don't want this right now, Cody, you don't want coming off of two, like a poor preseason, they stash this away.
• 1:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers start one and three.
• 1:14:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And Bryce Young isn't doing that great.
• 1:14:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't want a guy who has the ability to like, oh, let's run the option.
• 1:14:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do some different things.
• 1:14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: That right away is going to cause everything.
• 1:15:02
  [UNKNOWN]: You do want that.
• 1:15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you mean?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Don't want that right now.
• 1:15:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got to really learn what it's got.
• 1:15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt like I was watching a different team with Ken.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone felt like more was possible to us.
• 1:15:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, man, I'm just saying, I want to see more hands came.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I do not believe he is as injured as they say he is.
• 1:15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see more of hands.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If price is not good, I want to feel like
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  [UNKNOWN]: There is the pressure of this young gunslinger who has the potential to come in and step up and do something.
• 1:15:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh God.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, two, two, two, eight, 15, ninety, have got a pole up in the chat.
• 1:15:52
  [UNKNOWN]: If Sean McDermott was with the care of return to the Carolina Panthers in 2027, would you?
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  [UNKNOWN]: What would you bet on him being the head coach of the defensive
• 1:16:05
  [UNKNOWN]: This offense ain't killing it, then everybody's going and it's time to reset to center and proven.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sean McDermott.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My vote would be for head coach right now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I believe defensive coordinator is winning additionally.
• 1:16:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys, uh, hit up this, we're going to do a little, we need to.
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  [UNKNOWN]: we're going to call on the C3 Panthers fans to get a little momentum.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Troy for I Jr.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I saw this is that he had worked out with the San Francisco 49ers.
• 1:16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He put up an image today on his Twitter that of the defensive workbook slash workbooks, not playbooks, but these are workbooks that they're going to give guys that are making the team.
• 1:16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers, Raiders, Saints, Cowboys, Texans, so he's been working and trying to stay in the league yet a visit to the 49ers.
• 1:16:57
  [UNKNOWN]: This is kind of going on fire a little bit, as somebody asked right away, right under it, and people have been laughing about it.
• 1:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: How was Matt Ruhl was the question, Troy Pride Jr. His response was, you saw it with your own eyes and it's taken on this little
• 1:17:17
  [UNKNOWN]: and asked him to come on the C3 Panthers podcast, not specifically to talk, but to talk ball, to talk about his journey, what's going on in his life and what he's trying to fight for, what we can learn from the preseason and yeah, maybe a little insight into the Panthers past.
• 1:17:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys, hey, flood them, may not flood flood, but yeah, mentioned, we want you on the C3 Panthers
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe that will make my direct message hit a little harder.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to another call.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Real quick, it means you don't make the A3 TV.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now I have to make a second call.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Sorry, C3 podcast.
• 1:18:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You get it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Real quick, man.
• 1:18:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You're a brand new person.
• 1:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: The game against the deals for starters is office line.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now, our rookie.
• 1:18:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We had our rookie husband, right, Taco, already told y'all, man.
• 1:18:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Just put him at left Taco, and if you get beat up, you're gonna be the back of it.
• 1:18:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But even at right Taco, he didn't look good, you know?
• 1:18:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, man, something that's simply be doing, man, I just don't understand.
• 1:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You drive to a left Taco, let him play fucking left Taco.
• 1:18:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And so he get beat out, Bob and Sean Walker, why don't you play a right Taco?
• 1:18:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't give a fucking gut there, so I'm opening something hurt.
• 1:18:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't look like my regular taco I got there in right chocolate, but I'm pretty good to see nobody, I don't give a fuck, make you fucking work, man, I took the, they're rookie frees, frees, whatever his name was, you look good in the Hall of Fame game, this is the bump him up, it'd be the song of that right taco, you know, but man, from the city we don't have to be kissing me the fuck out, you know, more and freely, wherever my man does, does the big,
• 1:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: boy, my big boy from Georgia, putting him at little time.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my little friend.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my little fucking right side.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't even look right.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You got this month of the community, NFL, put them on a goddamn right side.
• 1:19:18
  [UNKNOWN]: We used to suck your little taco.
• 1:19:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to hear you shit about with $3,000 sometimes they get the fucking more on the right side.
• 1:19:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to fucking about that shit.
• 1:19:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Put them on a goddamn left side.
• 1:19:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He was doing that taco in college, put him at little taco for us.
• 1:19:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Now real quick.
• 1:19:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, tell us the baller, cut him.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's fucking trash.
• 1:19:38
  [UNKNOWN]: What the fuck are we doing?
• 1:19:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell us the baller is the fucking turnspile on the office of the line.
• 1:19:44
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody going to get by his ass.
• 1:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't block shit.
• 1:19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't block the fucking thing, though.
• 1:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't block him, fucking fly.
• 1:19:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll fuck the mosquito.
• 1:19:56
  [UNKNOWN]: get them out of here.
• 1:19:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't even see no more of them telling us to follow.
• 1:20:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Get him the fuck out of here.
• 1:20:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, we'll put on his defense.
• 1:20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Next guy, why didn't Scott feel that didn't start him?
• 1:20:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, just he got them safe.
• 1:20:10
  [UNKNOWN]: He's two years back to back.
• 1:20:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And we got for the eyes of your Simmons.
• 1:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me see if we got him out of your Simmons guy.
• 1:20:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to see if he's got a fuck off we got him coverage.
• 1:20:20
  [UNKNOWN]: He always fucking loves.
• 1:20:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need to see a little more up for the next guy.
• 1:20:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Period.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Next guy, but now I'm making something seem, man.
• 1:20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's just hit like this, be pissing me the fuck off, man.
• 1:20:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I was like, the game ran through the first game, but it got in a year.
• 1:20:34
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy got there, who's got there, but who's so talk-o with each of you, he had a long guy, so he's got one on this.
• 1:20:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And Jacksonville.
• 1:20:42
  [UNKNOWN]: He always fucking up.
• 1:20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry to see the next guy.
• 1:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: telling me this guy, but then got there and let them rest up.
• 1:20:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Let them rest up.
• 1:20:49
  [UNKNOWN]: All he does is make got them play.
• 1:20:51
  [UNKNOWN]: All he does is fucking tap a little wrap the fuck up.
• 1:20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Next guy continues to be the punching bag, the kicking bag for Carolina fans.
• 1:21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's as bad as this.
• 1:21:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to talk about Savala though.
• 1:21:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Savala was...
• 1:21:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I have never, ever presented myself as a football expert as a guy that like, those technique, those exes and those.
• 1:21:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I have one simple thing.
• 1:21:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I watch football every week.
• 1:21:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I have an eye test, this and that, right?
• 1:21:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, that's it.
• 1:21:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like, that's why I don't claim to be an expert.
• 1:21:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Savala was drafted, he comes in here in this first year and through camp in the early states when he was a backup, the football heads, the football experts, I just explicitly remember this, the people that are not football experts but also claimed to be.
• 1:21:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're like some of all is way better than anybody's given me credit way way way.
• 1:21:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's it.
• 1:21:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got this he's got this is like and he he's needs to be You serpent and Brady Christians.
• 1:22:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He needs to you start this person you start this this you got a gem all
• 1:22:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Then he comes out, he has what fucking 10 penalties in one game.
• 1:22:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I think at one point, I test will tell us this.
• 1:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He had the most penalties in any game, the most penalty.
• 1:22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, okay, I don't need to shed on this guy.
• 1:22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't need to say, cut him.
• 1:22:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need to do any of this.
• 1:22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, you talked about this is that we didn't have our starters out there.
• 1:22:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But Savala is not a rut.
• 1:22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy's three years in the league.
• 1:22:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's, but that's why he's trying to be, no, a competent backup.
• 1:22:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And now, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's, that's what he needs to be for his to be.
• 1:22:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't even think that's what they drafted him to be.
• 1:22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: No, if you have to interview us, when he was drafted at the time, under Federer, they wanted him to be the full-time left guard, because he played next to the
• 1:23:00
  [UNKNOWN]: any of that.
• 1:23:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not good.
• 1:23:02
  [UNKNOWN]: You may say, don't cut him.
• 1:23:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not calling.
• 1:23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying is this, I don't have to call to cut him.
• 1:23:09
  [UNKNOWN]: That's like, I don't, that does not make me feel better about myself.
• 1:23:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:23:13
  [UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying is this is your argument was that we didn't have our starters.
• 1:23:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is like, this is why it sucked.
• 1:23:23
  [UNKNOWN]: my argument in a sense kind of going back to those football expert football heads is that why is Savala not a more competent backup three years in the lead we're not talking about rookie we're not talking about a guy by the way we're not talking about a guy who we're just mentioned that said like uh
• 1:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: players that I love, these undrafted free agents, a demeanor bird that the reason I love them so much is they get limited reps, they fight, they clawed, they stay in the league.
• 1:23:56
  [UNKNOWN]: This guy has had real playing time in real games situation.
• 1:24:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He started like 20 games.
• 1:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Or maybe I don't know, I'm just making up that number, but he has played on Sundays on this team for several years.
• 1:24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And what we're talking about is this is now people are like where are all the Savala fucking trumper like truthers I'm saying to think of it this way British Christiansen has had to play every position on the offensive line The vala has only had to play a one
• 1:24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He's only played left hard.
• 1:24:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe he played a little bit of right guard.
• 1:24:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember.
• 1:24:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Brady Christianson came in after being back on the team for a couple weeks.
• 1:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And Christianson looked good at right guard and the vola still looks hapless and lost.
• 1:24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony the fact that the matter is some players do not develop like others.
• 1:25:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He has not been a player that we can depend on.
• 1:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He has not developed to be better than even when we drafted him.
• 1:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He has shown no improvement.
• 1:25:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And the fact that he is the backup left guard, that's very
• 1:25:23
  [UNKNOWN]: that they're not ruling out and Kim Akwan who are you guys they're not they're not ruling out and Kim Akwan to be ready week one all right so that is for he needs to be
• 1:25:45
  [UNKNOWN]: a guard for the Carolina Panthers like I have always said that he needs to be it's very long about this let's talk about it right now this story came about because or at least I want to say came about we have heard slightly in the background from Canalis in them that a Aquano is doing great in his recovery.
• 1:26:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But who do they never they never they always say that about every person coming back from injury have you ever heard somebody be like oh fucking way behind schedule just like they say about the offense is like oh or training camp we're great training camp best trained camp fight hard right as you expect them to always just say look he's working hard he's doing everything he is putting in the work he's with the team he's doing all these things they don't
• 1:26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: say timelines though they just say look it's just this is more for the player i think is to keep them and good spirits them PR as well for them to look good but this is where it came about a shakago bear and do you have the guy's name by any chance the how it coincides i don't remember his name
• 1:27:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to find it real quick is Chicago, you're talking about the bear put tell the same day, same injury, same day and his back.
• 1:27:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, or no, but the team.
• 1:27:19
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:27:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is what this is.
• 1:27:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, let's just see latest top.
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  [UNKNOWN]: what is today today's the 18th.
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  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so this is from Ari Meriv at my sports update.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Bears, left tackle, Aussie, trepolo.
• 1:27:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Trepello, Trepello.
• 1:27:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Sounds like it's got, he got a little Italian or something.
• 1:27:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Trepello, who ruptured his patella tendon in the January playoffs and was expected by many to miss all of 2026 has already been activated off of pup.
• 1:27:58
  [UNKNOWN]: and can now begin practicing and incredibly fast recovery and way ahead of schedule.
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  [UNKNOWN]: August 16th, this story comes out.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Now let's put in a Kim, how do you spell a Kim?
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  [UNKNOWN]: On the 17th, the Panthers announced this recording, the Panthers wire at Panthers wire.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers head coach canalas.
• 1:28:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave canalas says left tackle of Kim McCawano is progressing really well and what and rule him out for week one.
• 1:28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know this, is I'm telling you, these mugs all listen each other.
• 1:28:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm so tired of them saying they don't listen to everything.
• 1:28:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're probably listening to our fucking podcast right now, but this guy did it.
• 1:28:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's ready.
• 1:28:57
  [UNKNOWN]: All the sudden, the quantity, who were like, oh, don't expect anything.
• 1:29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: How the hell, like, what are they rushing him?
• 1:29:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this a change in events?
• 1:29:08
  [UNKNOWN]: But now Aquana, who's progressed, I wouldn't rule him out for week one after I saw how Chandler Savala did against the Buffalo Bill.
• 1:29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He might as well said that.
• 1:29:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But dude, I also think that when you're a player who now your future on the team is in question and you don't know what your free agent market is gonna look like.
• 1:29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll be damned, Tony, if that's not some incentive to attack your offseason preparation and your rehabilitation on that Patel Lieutenant.
• 1:29:42
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been out there.
• 1:29:43
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been working.
• 1:29:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's been with this team and I genuinely think especially when you look at how
• 1:29:55
  [UNKNOWN]: man.
• 1:29:55
  [UNKNOWN]: This could be an opportunity for us to see where he should have been all along.
• 1:30:03
  [UNKNOWN]: See dogs as if he's a guard all day.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know the man says if he would be an all pro guard remember when he was drafted you had an all the same That it came up one who could be a day one guard He always had questions in past protection at tackle, but if you put him as a guard Let him go downhill imagine Jonathan Brooks
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  [UNKNOWN]: running behind a polling and chemical.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's the stuff I've heard today.
• 1:30:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:30:39
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, look, I think this is, um, and I have been also saying this in a green with you, is that it's not that he can't do it.
• 1:30:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It would not have been in his best interest financially when he was healthy and getting better at left tackle to say, I'm willing to play gore because all this sudden you're talking about.
• 1:31:00
  [UNKNOWN]: a significant financial cut, right?
• 1:31:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And what his financial potential could be.
• 1:31:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But right now, if Ikki Aquana does not play at all this season, and then he comes back and hits free agency, right?
• 1:31:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Because we have minus 50 or option this year.
• 1:31:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers is like, he's not going
• 1:31:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:31:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You saw her.
• 1:31:26
  [UNKNOWN]: She Walker who has been equivalent to a chemical honor in his performance ultimately in his grading, who hasn't had an injury didn't get this giant deal.
• 1:31:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Right now a chemical honor has this is an easy transition for him to stay in the league and make money and to stay around.
• 1:31:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:31:48
  [UNKNOWN]: If you if he can imagine if he said no,
• 1:31:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't play guard.
• 1:31:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to wait for the money.
• 1:31:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He might not ever be on a team again or might not make the big money.
• 1:31:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the way that you get what you want without him sacrificing his financial future to do it, Cody.
• 1:32:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I 100% agree, and then we also have to talk about Taylor Martin too.
• 1:32:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't know how long he's going to be with the team.
• 1:32:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's saying excited about his future here, but blunt thoughts and no lungs is no joke.
• 1:32:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But you're also drafted Monroe Freeling and I think even in spite of Walker, they view Monroe Freeling as the future at left tackle and man having Freeling next to him come on corner on that left side for the foreseeable future.
• 1:32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, that sounds good to me, man, I'm into it.
• 1:32:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know C.K.
• 1:32:45
  [UNKNOWN]: how this is just coincidence.
• 1:32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care how a Kim Aquano has been progressing the same rate that he was progressing four days ago, a week ago.
• 1:32:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All this sudden now, this other guy has been activated.
• 1:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are struggling at the interior.
• 1:33:02
  [UNKNOWN]: They need more depth, period.
• 1:33:05
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not saying we're gonna activate them and start them over Freeland.
• 1:33:09
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no way they're going to come out and say that.
• 1:33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not going to say we're shot walker.
• 1:33:14
  [UNKNOWN]: You lost your spot.
• 1:33:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you've had a big camp to a Kimma corner because he's been part of our team and we like them.
• 1:33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, now a Kimma corner might be playing week one.
• 1:33:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on, CK is the noise.
• 1:33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Is I am irritated?
• 1:33:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That what you're irritated.
• 1:33:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm irritated that there's the people that we all think are fucking so smart and so In the know are just as influenced as everybody else This is pan and I want to say panic, but now oh, well, we need a card.
• 1:33:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean God damn like now we'll start to think about it because of all the sucks
• 1:33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that it's, I don't know that this is reactionary, I think that this is them, you know, I think they, again, and I'm going back to a thing that we have talked about before I think that they've learned a valuable list in the past and that they don't, they genuinely aren't trying to bring somebody back before they're ready.
• 1:34:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, I think they learned that with Jonathan Brooks, um, I don't think they're going to be willing to do that again.
• 1:34:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so I don't think that if he isn't ready, I don't think they're going to be willing to put him out there.
• 1:34:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's going to be a thing we have to worry about.
• 1:34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you know, honesty.
• 1:34:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't think if your job is slightly contingent on immediate success that you will push things to the limit a little.
• 1:34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, as far
• 1:34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave Dave can Alice and then Morgan are you talking about it?
• 1:34:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Dan yeah Dan Morgan say I think this is Dan Morgan I'm at not Dan Morgan.
• 1:34:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Dave can now as has very little grace beyond Bryce Young.
• 1:35:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's a chance that there could be a Carolina Panthers in 2027 where Bryce Young wasn't on the
• 1:35:12
  [UNKNOWN]: the starting quarterback in Dave Canalis was the head coach.
• 1:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see a scenario in the world where Bryce Young is the starting quarterback in Dave Canalis is not the head coach.
• 1:35:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I could conceive a world where Dave Canalis somehow maintained his job.
• 1:35:31
  [UNKNOWN]: and you're like, okay, this and that.
• 1:35:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't believe that I think Dave Canalis is playing just a little bit with a little bit more house money than Bryce Young is.
• 1:35:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is Caroline Panthers walk out there for and what, what would it be for in 13?
• 1:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see him as a head coach anymore.
• 1:35:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the pressure is on him enough to perform.
• 1:36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think that they're like, oh, well, the long-term plan is if we brought Robert Hunt back for that game, that last game to try to make the play off so that playoff game, he could have said this, is let's rest him.
• 1:36:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like is this a coincidence, 10 full hat me Cody.
• 1:36:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We only have a couple more calls and a couple more things to talk about.
• 1:36:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to.
• 1:36:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I really want to get to this new sign.
• 1:36:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, we're kind of mentioned it here.
• 1:36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we have to get more than just mention it.
• 1:36:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to play that.
• 1:36:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got to get into it.
• 1:36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight, smash thumbs up button.
• 1:36:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Subscribe BSc3 Superfan Cody and play in the call.
• 1:36:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You got the response.
• 1:36:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, if you guys want to make some noise, you can use the ball in the pan.
• 1:36:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Do it!
• 1:36:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Guys, I want to set game on the beach and when you starters versus starters, you look like ass.
• 1:37:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I guess it might have been rust or something or whatever it was and if you're going to have that type of game, the pre-season is a place to do it.
• 1:37:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But we're going to see Bryce yelling like whether we want to admit it or not, we're going to see Bryce yelling, he's going to be our starter.
• 1:37:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So he asked for what we need to play more in pre-season.
• 1:37:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So we get this rest out of him and says, he looks like shit right now.
• 1:37:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But I mean, the fact that Kenny picked it was better than Bryce and he was, I mean, the Mac good.
• 1:37:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, Kenny picked it wasn't even that good and it was the goddamn pre-season.
• 1:37:50
  [UNKNOWN]: but he's super well championed.
• 1:37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, God, I guess the lead was hard up for a quarterback.
• 1:37:56
  [UNKNOWN]: That year, he was, I think he was the first quarterback also off the board that year.
• 1:38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Because when that of the year, we picked up, was it cornered, or Derek Brown, I can't remember what you're taking to pick it was this taking.
• 1:38:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't all that fast, he was 22.
• 1:38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And notice quarterback that didn't play, he changed, are we resting the starter ladies and gentlemen?
• 1:38:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Where's he in team when we get all hail the team?
• 1:38:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway guys.
• 1:38:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, wow, wow, that did bello, I like it Joey.
• 1:38:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:38:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:38:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're stash and hands can't see.
• 1:38:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know because there's a series.
• 1:38:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't.
• 1:38:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they want Bryce and can need to feel like they are entrenched as could be one and could be two, but I don't know what your thoughts.
• 1:39:17
  [UNKNOWN]: put him in this category of like we need to protect him from himself being as young as he is.
• 1:39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he showed a lot, you know, and then Hall of Fame game and I think it was incredibly exciting to see what he could possibly be if he's ever needing to be the guy to step into the role.
• 1:39:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that I'm willing to get super excited about it, you know.
• 1:39:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean.
• 1:39:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, this team, you can't think what's the most frustrating is I can't even say that they're trending in the right direction other than a few good defensive players by Jalen Phillips and Devon Lloyd and even principally going out there looking at grass and getting after the quarterback.
• 1:40:03
  [UNKNOWN]: There's nothing that I can really hang my hat on to say this is a team that I feel is moving forward the right way.
• 1:40:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I just I don't I don't feel that now maybe with how proactive they've been in free agency including this next signing maybe that does really like to know that they're trying to add as much firepower for what they feel can be a legitimate competing team issue.
• 1:40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's fair, I think they are genuinely trying to add as much as they possibly can.
• 1:40:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's reasonable to look at the performance that we had against the bills and start to have maybe a moment of panic and maybe they do let that influence their decision
• 1:41:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:41:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I think one preseason game is not going to be enough for them to change how they be, how they view, you know, doing what's best for a player if I'm being just completely honest.
• 1:41:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's go to Darren Waller, but I want to throw sea dog for a loop real quick.
• 1:41:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Carolina Panthers tweeted out 13 hours ago, can if I put it up will it show or do you know if you're no, because we have to always remove and then
• 1:41:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Nick Scott transformed his entire mental approach to the game.
• 1:41:46
  [UNKNOWN]: The result has changed the entire Panther's defense.
• 1:41:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Secondary functions will examine the mental approach around the triangle of the Panther's defense.
• 1:41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Reboar.
• 1:41:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers.com.
• 1:41:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Seedog's head just exploded.
• 1:42:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think Nick Scott is as bad as everybody says he is.
• 1:42:09
  [UNKNOWN]: but at same time I understand where they're coming from, but the Panthers, they are in love.
• 1:42:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, we're going to talk about this.
• 1:42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me foreshadow one other thing I want to talk about later in the show after this.
• 1:42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I want one thing and we did not put it in the show.
• 1:42:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I want you guys to think about
• 1:42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... a lot of panther fans who are hardcore junky panther fans too or or sit here there on uh... on these new young wide receivers right these guys that are fighting to make the team
• 1:42:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And David Moore taking fucking bullets after this game from a lot of Panther fans about how, oh, Dave can Alice can't encourage this team without David Moore.
• 1:42:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He should think of the team.
• 1:42:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I still think David Moore makes this team.
• 1:43:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about David Moore in a moment.
• 1:43:03
  [UNKNOWN]: More importantly, though, the Carolina Panthers, we said the tight-end room was then.
• 1:43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We've mentioned this
• 1:43:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Mitchell Evans rolled his I tell you this is right away.
• 1:43:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Once Mitchell Evans rolled his ankle on like with the second or first or second day of practice In training campus like what are they going to do at Tidem?
• 1:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Well the Carolina Panthers have done something they went and got a musical talent Darren Waller Cody.
• 1:43:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir former provol time in
• 1:43:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Darren Waller has signed a one-year deal with the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:43:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We had talked about this a little how much through their trust to TV and Sanders.
• 1:43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Mitchell Evans had that one enduring in practice.
• 1:43:57
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, we were wondering, well, would they go out and make a move?
• 1:44:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And they made
• 1:44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: When I want to say about Darren Waller is this, I genuinely believe.
• 1:44:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So by the way, this is what Dave can now say.
• 1:44:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You can play him like a Titan.
• 1:44:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You can play him like a receiver.
• 1:44:24
  [UNKNOWN]: His huge, just standing with him out there.
• 1:44:27
  [UNKNOWN]: His olive six foot six and a half.
• 1:44:29
  [UNKNOWN]: His lean, he can run all those things.
• 1:44:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a unique element that you bring to whatever offense it's been a part of.
• 1:44:39
  [UNKNOWN]: uh the goal is just to throw them in that room, challenge that room, and see what guys want to elevate and create that role for Bryce.
• 1:44:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yo, and tell me you say, hey my theory is this, they were depending on having a big body wide receiver target in the offensive here, and more than one.
• 1:45:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You already know you have jail and coker, but then they drafted Chris Brasal, six foot four huge categories, and then you lose him for the season.
• 1:45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: They were already talking about moving to the slot because of the presence of Chris Brasal.
• 1:45:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is just as much a receiver move as it is a tied-in move.
• 1:45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: They want a big body receiving target for Bryce Dung so that he has a bunch of different options with the wide catcher release at Bryce Dung's disposal.
• 1:45:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd love this move and I think that he can really help us compete this year and his stats
• 1:45:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:45:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I have one of the better.
• 1:46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He, okay, I mean, 552, no, no, he had 283 yards.
• 1:46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I pull up the PFF.
• 1:46:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But he only started three games though.
• 1:46:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess now, I mean, if you look at it like that, three games started, played nine games, 283 yards.
• 1:46:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's the number though, it's six touchdowns.
• 1:46:24
  [UNKNOWN]: in that span.
• 1:46:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what to spend.
• 1:46:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Here was one of the better tidings when you were playing.
• 1:46:29
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so you can give us your thoughts on Darren Wallerway does for the offense, the sign name, whatever you want to go with it.
• 1:46:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that this is probably a signing that happens because they aren't thrilled with what we have it tightened.
• 1:46:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, we knew they weren't thrilled.
• 1:46:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:46:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I think you still had hold out the hope for, um, a Jutavian Sanders to step up to the, the, the played, uh, Mitchell Evans.
• 1:46:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Any of these guys that you drafted that you were hoping to develop into the guy.
• 1:47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And if they haven't shown what you had anticipated them showing, then I think that becomes a bit more of a, um,
• 1:47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, it becomes a little bit more concerning in what that looks like in this room.
• 1:47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think when you look at the fact that we had like five tight ends on the roster, and they still made the decision to go tight end in the free agency market with Darren Waller.
• 1:47:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, do I think the dude is going to come in here and be a Greg Olson type a player?
• 1:47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I can only hope, but no, I don't put that expectation on him, but I do think that having that veteran presence can be helpful for a team of uh, uh, uh, tightens who maybe only have the veteran presence of a Greg Olson from time to time.
• 1:47:53
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, well, you said that, how did you phrase it that they, they came to believe like they were hoping that these guys were going to do it, I'm the reason I'm asking like in them, I'm trying to wish I would have wrote down exactly like the verb that you said here is because it felt like the Panthers.
• 1:48:16
  [UNKNOWN]: didn't believe in their tight-end room, but believed enough that they could manage it in maybe a move like this, maybe a move like this was destined or that they don't think that's tight-end room is the most pivotal turning point.
• 1:48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: did they really think CK that the Titan room was going to step up into this or did they always think that the Titan room was semi-manageable that needed to be managed you know like it's like I feel like the more I think about it because I'm with you is like when I think back I was like oh we can get by we don't want to spend the money we don't want to spend the draft picks we want to
• 1:49:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't know if they ever truly believed in the group period.
• 1:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I I'd love to think that they they had high hopes for this squad, but I think again right now we have a pretty clear cut answer about their opinion about what this team is or what this tied in group was to go out and get a guy like during wall or you're not getting him to sit the bench.
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't think so.
• 1:49:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know.
• 1:49:32
  [UNKNOWN]: He was one of the most legit red zone targets last year.
• 1:49:37
  [UNKNOWN]: The no says Walker had six touchdowns and nine games.
• 1:49:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He's legit red zone target.
• 1:49:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't need him to have 100 yard games.
• 1:49:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not what he said.
• 1:49:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Hit that with Miami.
• 1:49:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I know, and everything they had going on.
• 1:49:52
  [UNKNOWN]: This is Darren Waller talking about his time here with the Panthers and why he came.
• 1:49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I really feel like there was something greater than I was pushing me back into the game.
• 1:50:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like there was a lot left.
• 1:50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like at the time that I was on the field last year, I feel like there was really clear to me that I still had a lot left.
• 1:50:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's really just about playing the game.
• 1:50:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Enjoying each and every opportunity I have.
• 1:50:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, you know, I don't know.
• 1:50:16
  [UNKNOWN]: how much time will be left, but I'm grateful that I have an opportunity to play this season.
• 1:50:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm super excited about it.
• 1:50:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe you are.
• 1:50:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's what you just gave the best out of the group right now, right?
• 1:50:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That the best tight end prior to this sign and was on the team is it to David Sanders, is it?
• 1:50:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Mitchell Evans is a Tommy Trimbo who just give me so I can look them up.
• 1:50:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, probably last year was Mitchell Evans, huh?
• 1:50:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm a little scared.
• 1:50:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, triple has 20 set.
• 1:50:52
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, I have Trimble up.
• 1:50:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I may be ashamed to just ask my retimble was injured for good portion the last year, too, wasn't he?
• 1:50:59
  [UNKNOWN]: No, he started 16 games.
• 1:51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He really?
• 1:51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did this number.
• 1:51:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I was looking at Darren Waller's wall and Sandra.
• 1:51:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
• 1:51:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay.
• 1:51:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I was looking at Darren Wall and stats and my argument is regardless of his age.
• 1:51:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, is I don't think necessarily comes in and transforms the Carolina Panthers, right, because if he was this so we're the least, we don't got the money, we don't got the offer, you know, like is if he had his pick of the litter, he's not picking us, we picked him.
• 1:51:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think he makes the Panthers, he doesn't make a morse.
• 1:51:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Right?
• 1:51:42
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not real.
• 1:51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he makes the group inherently better.
• 1:51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The crazy thing and not the crazy thing is that he's had Two 1,000 yard seasons in his career Where he started is legit
• 1:51:57
  [UNKNOWN]: He started 11 games on the terrible Las Vegas Raiders team in 2021.
• 1:52:02
  [UNKNOWN]: He still had 600 yards still in 2022, 388 yards.
• 1:52:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I know that's not a great number when he went to, but he was dealing with ultimately what I think and I don't think I'm getting this wrong is that was dealing
• 1:52:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's around a lot of players.
• 1:52:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying it so we're like is like look is I got a place shoot me up with that quarterzone Let me take these but he then went to the giant He had 552 yards and 12 games All of these numbers are better than any of our players do in 16 games
• 1:52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Last year, but this is what's crazy about this is from 2018, not crazy from 2018 to 2025.
• 1:53:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yards per reception.
• 1:53:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This is an interesting step for me.
• 1:53:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, maybe the numbers, not as cool as I think 12 and a half yards per reception.
• 1:53:10
  [UNKNOWN]: 2018, 12.7, 2019, 11.2, 12.1, 13.9, 10.6, 11.8, Smug is catching first downs.
• 1:53:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Now Tommy Trimble last year.
• 1:53:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, not last year and his career.
• 1:53:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Last year he had 9.2 yards per reception.
• 1:53:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He had 10.2,
• 1:53:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But he had 234 yards.
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: He's never had more than 250 yards.
• 1:53:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like this on Darren Wallace's worst day.
• 1:53:46
  [UNKNOWN]: He's inherently better than these guys.
• 1:53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying they can't be good, but a broken, like he's talented.
• 1:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't need him to be the greatest.
• 1:54:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But if this guy gets 500 yards, that's twice as much as Tommy Trimble had last year.
• 1:54:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, that's my, I think you hope going into this training camp that you have a guy that's going to step up.
• 1:54:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this signing is a direct reflection of the fact that they don't see that guy yet.
• 1:54:24
  [UNKNOWN]: and any of the guys they had, and I don't know that they've lost hope that that guy can exist amongst any of these guys, but I think that right now they realize if their window started last year, we got to act on this window and fill all the voids we possibly can through a free agency pick up.
• 1:54:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, how much do you think the Panthers regardless of his talent, regardless of the red zone threat?
• 1:54:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I know that you are, I feel like I'm working with an attorney on the other side in you, that has already integrated an argument, well, he's not just a tight end.
• 1:55:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He is a receiver, he's a Chris Brazos replacement.
• 1:55:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like you've already pointed to see to try to address this argument that I'm going to ask you to make.
• 1:55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Is regardless of how good bad if this, you get this talent come in.
• 1:55:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Does the Panthers offense and a great a tight end?
• 1:55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Does a store tight in, Matt, and I won't say a store, because any store can matter.
• 1:55:33
  [UNKNOWN]: You get the ball in their hands and something happens.
• 1:55:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But you look at what this offense has done.
• 1:55:39
  [UNKNOWN]: The struggles of Ted, it's historical challenges of finding a way to make a tight-end group.
• 1:55:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you put a great tight-end on this team and play them as a tight-end?
• 1:55:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:55:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Just can Bryce, is it scheme?
• 1:55:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Is Bryce got a problem seeing the middle?
• 1:56:00
  [UNKNOWN]: If you put the great, a good one, right in the middle, and they're prime, are they gonna be as good as they can be?
• 1:56:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Does Darren Waller move the needle if he is just a tight end, or did you make that argument as a slippery attorney trying to plant relative doubt?
• 1:56:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, this conversation is like the chicken or the egg, do the panthers under neutralize the tide in because they haven't had good talent in the tide in room to actually neutralize the tide in or does this offense just not really prioritizing it in the ball through the tide in and to me that's why I'm so excited about this because during a
• 1:56:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's only what 245 pounds, he's not a big dude.
• 1:56:50
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not necessarily someone that you want right now to be.
• 1:56:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's not someone that you want blocking a defensive end or an outside linebacker.
• 1:56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He is a receiving threat like I alluded to earlier knowing that Bryce Young is basically in a contract a year.
• 1:57:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He's playing for that big time extension.
• 1:57:09
  [UNKNOWN]: They want to give him every possible weapon.
• 1:57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: to be able to put up points.
• 1:57:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And to me, that's what Darren Waller represents.
• 1:57:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Now for my money, I believe it was the former of those two arguments.
• 1:57:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't believe they have had a high-end tightening prospect.
• 1:57:29
  [UNKNOWN]: that either the offensive coaches or Bryce Dome trust enough to want to get the ball to routinely at the tight end position.
• 1:57:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm hoping that Darren Waller can be the remedy to that this year.
• 1:57:44
  [UNKNOWN]: How did Cody turn it into the soft, the softy of this bunch?
• 1:57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going different.
• 1:57:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, for real, I checked, man.
• 1:57:53
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you said chicken or egg, right?
• 1:57:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, is the chicken or egg the first down?
• 1:57:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Did the panthers not get a first down because of the talent that they get a first down because this is what I'm saying.
• 1:58:05
  [UNKNOWN]: When it comes to that, I wonder.
• 1:58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't have a conclusion on this, but I wonder.
• 1:58:15
  [UNKNOWN]: How is it the Panthers not that they believe in the talent or that they can make this a little bit better, get a little more juice from the squeeze?
• 1:58:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Or do they believe this?
• 1:58:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that the talent isn't necessarily fantastic or de-threat there?
• 1:58:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Nor is that the strength of our quarterback?
• 1:58:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I go back to this, is you go back to Frank Wright, Rookie.
• 1:58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: What not Rookie Year, but his first year, Bryce Young's Rookie Year.
• 1:58:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And what was the major criticism against Frank Wright?
• 1:58:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Is trying to force Bryce Young to do Frank Wright things?
• 1:59:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I got a wonder, and if, and if this is the case, is that that talent either fucking sucks at tight end, and it's a bismal, and we can't development development, or is there a little naggingness?
• 1:59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: nagging issue in this coaching staff that says, not the greatest talent, nor the greatest asset for the quarterback and our system that we have.
• 1:59:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You want to, and I again, not an expert, but I tell you this, what do you see in training camp for Bryce Young that everybody
• 1:59:50
  [UNKNOWN]: over the shoulder using the sideline using the boundaries of the field.
• 1:59:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see this is like, oh, Bryce Young stepping up and singing it over.
• 2:00:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And of course, that's not his skill set
• 2:00:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, you given the greatest, are those center routes going to be those like over the middle routes going to be as valuable with him as they could be with somebody else.
• 2:00:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I wonder, is it a canala's favor, is it failure, is it a canala's failure to integrate the tight end?
• 2:00:32
  [UNKNOWN]: is it a schematic?
• 2:00:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't love the Titan.
• 2:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Or is it like, hey, this isn't the best use of what we got?
• 2:00:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's the necessary talent to be able to do it.
• 2:00:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Remember, they're also telling you literally verbatim that they want to put T-Mac in the slot.
• 2:00:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You already know that there's no
• 2:00:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But no, but this is my point Tony, they want a big strong body to be able to be a target going across the middle.
• 2:01:03
  [UNKNOWN]: That way you're not having to worry about them getting a little bit of linebackers.
• 2:01:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, we're not talking about 1980s football here, but who would you rather trust going across the middle of the field?
• 2:01:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Darren Waller or Jimmy Horn Jr.
• 2:01:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're here in the middle, I hope I think you're trying to drag them across the middle.
• 2:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is a nice game, I think Bryce's game is outside the hatches.
• 2:01:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Bryce's game is outside the hatches.
• 2:01:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Also, you know, think of a this way too.
• 2:01:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Press your own being a shorter quarterback is 510.
• 2:01:39
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my point.
• 2:01:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, this is what I'm saying though, that bigger body matters.
• 2:01:46
  [UNKNOWN]: They want the bigger body so that way it's a better target.
• 2:01:50
  [UNKNOWN]: for Bryce Young and at the same time that bigger frame is more able to take hits going across the middle of the field rather than worrying about menchy or Jimmy Horn Jr getting lit the fuck up.
• 2:02:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll ask you this, CKM will move on, is the Panthers not prioritizing a tie-dend, right?
• 2:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Is not making it a big deal in their free agency strategy, their draft strategy?
• 2:02:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that because
• 2:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: of a schematic, we don't really think that there as cool, or is it, we're trying to draft players, fit players for what is best, for what we have.
• 2:02:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Is Dave Canalis handicapped at the Titan position schematically, or does he recognize that
• 2:02:46
  [UNKNOWN]: this is does not suit the strengths of my quarterback.
• 2:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And I am being the most wild panthers fan.
• 2:02:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not usually like this when it comes to brace you on, but I'm now ready to put down the the gauntlet here.
• 2:03:02
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a tough question, Anna.
• 2:03:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Take it.
• 2:03:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's tough.
• 2:03:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So, so let me, so what do you
• 2:03:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So what's your suggestion with this?
• 2:03:20
  [UNKNOWN]: My suggestion is this is that they know that price young.
• 2:03:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying price young is not good.
• 2:03:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not my point.
• 2:03:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying he's not capable.
• 2:03:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Nor am I not saying they don't believe in him.
• 2:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: but we draft players, and you should.
• 2:03:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You should not let scheme override your players.
• 2:03:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You should build the scheme for your players.
• 2:03:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And do the Panthers intentionally build a scheme that is inherently less tight end, less centric to that center hash.
• 2:04:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Think about this, is Wood Brice Young Thrive with a Jeremy Shockey Greg Oltzon.
• 2:04:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like these are my guys, right?
• 2:04:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And as we run them inside the hash, you have to step in the pocket, you have to see over these.
• 2:04:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that when we look at the Panthers training camp and we look at the greatest throws to the sidelines, they are the boundary throws outside throws.
• 2:04:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying he can't throw over the middle at all, but it is, if you, I don't think they can build their offense on the center driven tight end, and I think that's why they have not made it a priority in free agency and draft because they are trying to cater to the guys, not cater, but is like accentuate their strengths, not force them to do things they don't want.
• 2:05:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:05:02
  [UNKNOWN]: My question ultimately is this, is does Dave can analysis offense not care about tight ends?
• 2:05:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Does the talent is the talent the problem?
• 2:05:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He doesn't know how to scheme tight ends or does he recognize that that's not the best scheme for Bryce Young.
• 2:05:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that Dave can now, is just never been graded scheming tight ends.
• 2:05:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, I think that maybe it's with this addition is has a philosophy that maybe more tight ends, centric.
• 2:05:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's a potential in change there.
• 2:05:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think that they, I think that Bryson needs a big body tight end as a safety net that he can look to when the pressure is really on, right?
• 2:05:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that he feels he has that now with Jonathan Brooks in the backfield that may open that up as well.
• 2:06:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So you may start to see him feeling a little more comfortable with those check downs.
• 2:06:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but I think that this could be an evolution of the offensive scheme more so than a scheme developed just around a weakness of brachial.
• 2:06:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:06:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that fair?
• 2:06:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it is fair and I am in a very argumentative mood tonight, not argumentative with you, but I am, I'm that bills game sent me a different place.
• 2:06:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:06:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And I know you guys don't say it mattered.
• 2:06:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't, like, yes, it would have been better Cody for me to not see them.
• 2:06:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That would have been better, but I would rather sleep with the girl that was going to marry before I married her in a sense.
• 2:06:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And that was us sleeping with this panther's offense for, like, yes, it would be better for us to get married and just conge of what does it consummate this marriage in week one.
• 2:07:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But now it's been here going down all the fucking optimism I had and we just were not trending the right way.
• 2:07:18
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not trending the right way and I don't care what the problem was.
• 2:07:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's guard.
• 2:07:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's the quarterback.
• 2:07:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's the coach is we're just not ultimately I didn't get any juice to make me find something to be excited about.
• 2:07:38
  [UNKNOWN]: For this offense, what I feel like is what the struggle I have done for this podcast for the last seven years is to try to find something.
• 2:07:50
  [UNKNOWN]: either A to be excited about or to not be an asshole, so that I'm not someone that everybody hates because you're like, oh, you're a Debbie Downer.
• 2:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't wanna think that this whole season's lost.
• 2:08:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that off of that, but I just didn't come away from this.
• 2:08:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I had so much fun in this off-season thinking about what the free agency did, what the draft did.
• 2:08:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Please remember I did not want to back into the playoffs.
• 2:08:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I was the only one on this show that said I don't want to back in the playoffs.
• 2:08:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, you were it.
• 2:08:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I did not want to fucking have the Falcons push us into the playoffs bro.
• 2:08:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I was loud about I can't hell on Twitter saying I'd rather not be in the bitch, but we did and we almost like we had the better outcome
• 2:08:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I just wanted at what point do we catch momentum at what point almost like we shouldn't play these fucking starters in the fucking preseason to kill all of our joy and our momentum before it even starts.
• 2:09:04
  [UNKNOWN]: about then week one kills them and them.
• 2:09:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want that.
• 2:09:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I just point back this is build them a mental room.
• 2:09:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Those.
• 2:09:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're well, I'm excited.
• 2:09:15
  [UNKNOWN]: They're in water as another really nice target for Brazil and now there's a lot of mouth to feed.
• 2:09:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Who don't want to test now though?
• 2:09:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't dare in water or exhale.
• 2:09:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how about that for the XL crowd and I like XL.
• 2:09:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not an XL hater, but think about this.
• 2:09:36
  [UNKNOWN]: If you place the bet right now off of if you said that XL is going to have more touchdowns than Darren Waller, you are only saying that because you believe that XL is going to become XL.
• 2:09:53
  [UNKNOWN]: chat put it in the chat who has more touchdowns like that.
• 2:09:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're going to this we're going to roll this for like two weeks.
• 2:10:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We need to make some couple polls because are who would say ex-al though?
• 2:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: People are the first one and they think you could be a bigger part of the offense, right?
• 2:10:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's, it's a second and go.
• 2:10:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And you, you try to out.
• 2:10:31
  [UNKNOWN]: T-Mac, you try to out.
• 2:10:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Coker, you try to out Excel and you try to out Waller.
• 2:10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a what, one in four chance that Excel is gonna get it.
• 2:10:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I put my money on Waller.
• 2:10:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I would probably also say, while they're right now, just because of what he did, but last year, six touchdowns in the red zone and nine games.
• 2:11:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He's done more in his worst year.
• 2:11:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He's done more.
• 2:11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, that's a, let's blow the internet up with this clip that because that's what how about this is stream yard likes to say then it's like we want to do that.
• 2:11:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, clip that who will get more touchdowns this season for the Carolina Panthers.
• 2:11:38
  [UNKNOWN]: that was me using a stream yard to try to make a short.
• 2:11:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We'll see if it works.
• 2:11:46
  [UNKNOWN]: They say clip of that clip then.
• 2:11:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna have to do it to say it, and it'll do it automatically.
• 2:11:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, they they say that if you use clip that in our talk that that the like their AI search engine can help I think they don't grab everything.
• 2:12:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, it was at least helps it find it.
• 2:12:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah But I said it three times so it could just be like clip that before you said what you want to say you're happy Now before or I don't know actually I don't know I've never done it before.
• 2:12:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we need to try it
• 2:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, we just did.
• 2:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Do it one more time, Cody.
• 2:12:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You ask it.
• 2:12:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But was like, because we'll get to a short.
• 2:12:28
  [UNKNOWN]: You do it streamer.
• 2:12:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we need to ask you?
• 2:12:31
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you'll say that.
• 2:12:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Just say, no, I'm not going to ask.
• 2:12:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Do me hard.
• 2:12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me fucking know stream your art.
• 2:12:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Do I need to say clip that before or after?
• 2:12:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I say the damn thing that I want to say.
• 2:12:44
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, well, how about you say it now and then you ask the question that would be a good short.
• 2:12:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, clip that indicates it's in the past.
• 2:12:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Clip this would be that it's in the future.
• 2:12:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 2:12:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, that's kind of what I'm saying.
• 2:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I'm getting.
• 2:12:59
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 2:13:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, we're trying this.
• 2:13:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm ready to be done.
• 2:13:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Who gets more touchdowns in 2006 Xavier, like that, or Darren Waller.
• 2:13:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Clip that.
• 2:13:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Well done, welcome pro, fuck him for a while.
• 2:13:18
  [UNKNOWN]: A dozen shit, sorry.
• 2:13:21
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers ahead in the Jacksonville.
• 2:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: There are two and a half point dogs.
• 2:13:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Not that that matters.
• 2:13:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't matter.
• 2:13:33
  [UNKNOWN]: None of it matters.
• 2:13:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll ask you this.
• 2:13:38
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you want to tell me about this in Sullivan?
• 2:13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: King song.
• 2:13:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not that wise.
• 2:13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Does any of it matter?
• 2:13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, do we matter now?
• 2:13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm like side or she's what do you want to if I would let me finish this is would you rather the Panthers win this game or what do you want to see?
• 2:14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I expect you to say, I don't want to see any of my fucking starters.
• 2:14:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to put my head in the sand and say, we're fucking great.
• 2:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you expect or want to see in Jack toville when we come back on Tuesday to do this show?
• 2:14:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I expect to see an offensive touch show.
• 2:14:28
  [UNKNOWN]: from him, that starters or just a carolina panther starter.
• 2:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't care who Jonathan Brooks, Bryson could run it in for all I care.
• 2:14:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Excel, Mechie, I don't give a damn dude.
• 2:14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to touch them.
• 2:14:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I want the bare minimum and I don't think
• 2:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I want, yeah, I want an offensive touchdown, but I also want to turn over, we haven't seen a turnover and either of these games.
• 2:15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see this defense get a turnover.
• 2:15:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I want to say?
• 2:15:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want, I don't want to see the Panther starters play.
• 2:15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I want us to walk into this game like Cody said and just be like, um, or, and practices great, joint practices of the fucking best.
• 2:15:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And, uh, whatever happens, week one, we're going to be the best team we can.
• 2:15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm fucking lying right there.
• 2:15:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I do not want us to do that.
• 2:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: What I want is this.
• 2:15:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I want the Carolina Panthers to put out.
• 2:15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I want them to say we want the ball.
• 2:15:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I want them to win the coin flip.
• 2:15:51
  [UNKNOWN]: That's it.
• 2:15:52
  [UNKNOWN]: When the fucking one points out, me too.
• 2:15:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I want them to win the coin flip.
• 2:15:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And I want them to say give us the ball.
• 2:15:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And I want them to start on the fucking 20 or 25 or whatever it is now that I think 25 right in the start.
• 2:16:11
  [UNKNOWN]: fucking 60 yards down, and kick a field goal.
• 2:16:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And if they scored touchdown fine, so be it.
• 2:16:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I want them to do this.
• 2:16:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I want them to execute an offense that can move the ball.
• 2:16:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not talking about a field goal that's like a 50-y order.
• 2:16:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about this is boom, clot, like,
• 2:16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: run the ball four yards past the ball seven yards first down past the ball four yards run the ball four yards convert a third down fuck if they make a touchdown gravy but if they just move the ball confidently kick a field goal take those bitches off the field and we say this
• 2:17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: The offense is a head of schedule to head of schedule.
• 2:17:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I want Cody is that I think that was we didn't actually let me do this.
• 2:17:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We have one short 30 second call from one last one.
• 2:17:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get in.
• 2:17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do it.
• 2:17:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Brassion I'm starting to think of he was right I'm not I don't think he's at y'all Yeah, it looks like he's on the yacht Chicago week one Chicago's gonna come in here and look for honey and so we got we got to get our ship together I mean, I'm starting to believe that Brass ain't it man.
• 2:17:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm getting hangs king ready
• 2:17:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm taking a baby.
• 2:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You're tapping boys.
• 2:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You fucked them for this moment, Cody, for the last year.
• 2:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And now I'm starting to be like, it's not about rice.
• 2:18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just so mad.
• 2:18:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm the I'm the I'm the fluffer now.
• 2:18:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm so mad that this fucking team isn't just a little bit.
• 2:18:17
  [UNKNOWN]: again, schedule behind or heads of schedule on schedule.
• 2:18:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like we are on schedule with this offense.
• 2:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my my concluding point.
• 2:18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: So I don't need to be ahead.
• 2:18:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Not on schedule and that's not one player.
• 2:18:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not a guard.
• 2:18:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not a quarterback.
• 2:18:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's about all of these.
• 2:18:41
  [UNKNOWN]: The unit so I've said enough.
• 2:18:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I've said my piece Cody.
• 2:18:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We've talked about I think if we missed anything I don't want to talk about anything that like once slide is there anything on your heart that we missed if not where do we go?
• 2:19:01
  [UNKNOWN]: let's go.
• 2:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I some more focus up there.
• 2:19:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You with it?
• 2:19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:19:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's time that I some fools up.
• 2:19:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Longest running segment on the longest running podcast.
• 2:19:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Panthers, park, guys.
• 2:19:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And I say, let's ice those fools up.
• 2:19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw up.
• 2:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw up.
• 2:19:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw up.
• 2:19:28
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together.
• 2:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: We rock this segment as a moment where we can tell anyone inside or outside the bounds of football.
• 2:19:42
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a football fan podcast, but hey, let's take a moment where we can talk shit about our friends, our family, kids in Oklahoma, people that we don't like, people we do like,
• 2:19:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our moment to tell someone to ice up, toughen up to get it together.
• 2:20:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I hope you have an amp of video of someone dying to lift my spirits after my day.
• 2:20:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish I had that okay.
• 2:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish I did but I don't thank um I'm icing up all the supporters of this bitch Lindsey Clancy Clancy
• 2:20:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like I just told CK's, I said, dude, this woman, Lindsey Clancy, has planned guilty to murdering.
• 2:20:40
  [UNKNOWN]: CK was at two or three kids.
• 2:20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's three kids.
• 2:20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: She had three kids.
• 2:20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: She planned guilty to brutally murdering the three of them.
• 2:20:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And a bunch of, I gotta be real sorry to the ladies that are listening, a bunch of fucking deranged hacks of women all on taking talking Twitter have convinced themselves that this woman is innocent.
• 2:21:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And that it's actually the husband that's been manipulating her the whole time to plead guilty to a crime that she didn't commit.
• 2:21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of these foods are so stupid, do you actively defending?
• 2:21:30
  [UNKNOWN]: a brutal murderer who murdered children, but I fucking, this is one of those stories that makes me hate people.
• 2:21:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And like if you're just hearing me say this telling me, it doesn't really hit the mark, but if you look up Lindsay Clancy and the disc cord around her online,
• 2:21:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's legit fucking sick of it.
• 2:21:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I've not seen the discord.
• 2:21:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I did, I was driving back from the mountains and it was like trying to find a podcast to like keep me awake in a sense.
• 2:22:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I was like, oh, I want to listen to something and I just like was listening to like, I'm putting crime podcasts and it was like latest person and it was, I listen to 38 seconds of this.
• 2:22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was just like, mother that murdered her and I was like, you know what, I don't want to listen to this.
• 2:22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So I know a little of the story.
• 2:22:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and by the way, there are a couple of things.
• 2:22:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Also, don't get hundreds of thousands of dollars to this.
• 2:22:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a $900,000 at this point.
• 2:22:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It's fucking sick.
• 2:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I did.
• 2:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The latest headline I read, C.K.
• 2:22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: was mother and law testified that she was exhausted.
• 2:22:49
  [UNKNOWN]: and like, yeah, ask for help and was exhausted.
• 2:22:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I am not trying to diminish.
• 2:23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: the idea that mother like anybody actually doesn't just have to be a mother that if you had kids say you had three kids and you were left alone like in you had to do yes you get exhausted you get that that's why when I had my children they had not when I had my children but when I was in these birds and the back of the door they had these signs that were like don't shake the baby
• 2:23:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, and I was like, damn, that's fucking fucked up, like, you know, but it was like, look, your life is about to be crazy.
• 2:23:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be tired.
• 2:23:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be exhausted.
• 2:23:40
  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be mad.
• 2:23:41
  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be, like, sad.
• 2:23:42
  [UNKNOWN]: You're gonna be all of this.
• 2:23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was a sign that said, do not shake.
• 2:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, if you, like, if you feel this, it's okay to be exhausted.
• 2:23:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
• 2:23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: called like, add, give your baby to the, your mom, give your baby to the neighbor.
• 2:23:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't fucking shake it.
• 2:24:00
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no amount of it.
• 2:24:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not like a sign on the back door.
• 2:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no amount of motherhood and do to exhaustion that should ever bring anyone to that point.
• 2:24:13
  [UNKNOWN]: That should go without saying.
• 2:24:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there are people that are willing to raise 900,000.
• 2:24:18
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that back.
• 2:24:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna take that
• 2:24:43
  [UNKNOWN]: No, there's there's a limit here.
• 2:24:44
  [UNKNOWN]: The limit is called shaking.
• 2:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought it was shaking according to that sign on the back of the door now.
• 2:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Though, let me just don't give your children shaken baby syndrome.
• 2:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and now it's smarter.
• 2:24:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:25:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, the thing about this is, and this is the, the, the hard part.
• 2:25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that anybody is responsible other than this woman, right, but I do think that answers need to be given about why she was not given the proper attention.
• 2:25:17
  [UNKNOWN]: when she reads it.
• 2:25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: She tried to admit herself multiple times to psychiatric word.
• 2:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's where that failures are.
• 2:25:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:25:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where not that you're killed your kids.
• 2:25:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the failures are on we didn't do it.
• 2:25:32
  [UNKNOWN]: There are enough.
• 2:25:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 2:25:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's where I have a problem with this entire thing is, you know, when somebody actually does come and try to ask for help,
• 2:25:44
  [UNKNOWN]: focused on return and burn that they're not willing to actually do anything to help, but just prescribe more medicine and more medicine and more medicine.
• 2:25:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that becomes where I see this being a bit of an issue.
• 2:25:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This woman is 100 percent responsible for what happened.
• 2:26:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, not for what?
• 2:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: For her actions.
• 2:26:06
  [UNKNOWN]: For her actions.
• 2:26:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I would say is like for the
• 2:26:13
  [UNKNOWN]: not arguing because I'm not arguing anything is that we need to step up and help people.
• 2:26:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, my kids like his take if you're a husband, fucking change a diaper, if you're a husband and the kids like his don't walk in there and not do anything.
• 2:26:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, like is
• 2:26:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is where I'm, and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to take over your ice up is like ultimately is your responsibilities, your actions are what you did.
• 2:26:48
  [UNKNOWN]: But the other people, it doesn't give you a pass, you did those things, but those other people could help.
• 2:27:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's not a pass at all is if you're fucking husband, help your wife.
• 2:27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're a wife, help your husband.
• 2:27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, if you're like, if you're like, so if you do, if you can murder somebody, you've murdered them.
• 2:27:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Your actions are your actions.
• 2:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: but like we can help people like you said ZK is like the system is not just the system is just how about this is fucking if you and again I go back to that shake and I remember looking at that sign it was like
• 2:27:39
  [UNKNOWN]: don't shake your baby.
• 2:27:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, Oh, God.
• 2:27:43
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like this is if you're fucking help that person, I'm not trying to give that person a pass.
• 2:27:51
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not what I'm saying.
• 2:27:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I know what you're saying, Tony, the reason I chose it as myself.
• 2:27:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Obviously, the woman who murdered her children is a fuckin'
• 2:28:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Dingman, but what I'm saying is they amount of people that aren't looking to identify with her.
• 2:28:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, is this what the Luigi Mangeon does?
• 2:28:12
  [UNKNOWN]: The Luigi Mangeon, the Luigi Mangeon bullshit, even though it was a murder, like you can say, all of the other...
• 2:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: guy of the health care company was denying people the life-saving medicines and treatments, so whatever you can make some kind of like working man justification hero vigilante shit for it.
• 2:28:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But this like taking the life of three innocent babies and people are willing to raise almost $900,000.
• 2:28:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But like I wish the less people could vote.
• 2:28:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I was the less people fucking had the right to vote you.
• 2:28:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the moral exoneration.
• 2:28:52
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the problem.
• 2:28:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:28:55
  [UNKNOWN]: It's uh, well, it's, it, and that's goes across the board, right?
• 2:28:59
  [UNKNOWN]: That happens a lot.
• 2:29:00
  [UNKNOWN]: People identify with the person.
• 2:29:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And so they end up, you know, in these large groups of people, it's, it's almost, I did it because they did it because rather than,
• 2:29:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, not even it's it's also what becomes a problem in my mind is this is what is encouraging a lot of these behaviors is people are thinking well I can get out of this situation by spend by doing this and people are going to send me millions of dollars just because they agree with or identify with
• 2:29:32
  [UNKNOWN]: either my situation or my beliefs or something along those lines.
• 2:29:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And so people, in my opinion, they're going to start encouraging themselves or other people to start to act morally, because hey, they're just going to, they may, they may suffer from a prison sentence, but they're going to be loved by millions of other people.
• 2:29:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the opposite of victims shaming.
• 2:29:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, um, you know, it's like, oh, it's a, I don't know.
• 2:30:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it how do you celebrate a bad champion?
• 2:30:06
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• 2:30:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:30:22
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't think that that's my ice up is this is that like to say it's it's not my is a it's your eyes up are you you go you fucking finish it all right my ice up is way less heavy.
• 2:30:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But very uncomfortable.
• 2:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 2:30:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Where I work at.
• 2:30:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, we have a bathroom, like the bathrooms, and I guess it's like faculty and student bathroom.
• 2:31:01
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it's the general bathroom and then it's like the single serve bathroom.
• 2:31:08
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:31:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So when you go into this bathroom is ultimately kind of nice.
• 2:31:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They don't keep it as clean as they should, but that's not nice.
• 2:31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Up is you walk in there.
• 2:31:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You lot the door safe.
• 2:31:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You're safe.
• 2:31:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You can scroll Twitter.
• 2:31:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You can take your couple of minutes
• 2:31:32
  [UNKNOWN]: and you're in your little throne environment.
• 2:31:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you weren't there and you've worked there for a while, you know this is like when you walk up in there like if the door is locked and someone's in there.
• 2:31:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And we always joke about this is like the newbie person or the person that hasn't worked.
• 2:31:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I want to say work there doesn't not involve that guess as much.
• 2:32:00
  [UNKNOWN]: when they come in and they try to use the bathroom they fucking shoulder it like a starting linebacker you like someone trying to make the team you'll be on the toilet you'll be scrolling Twitter and boom I mean it's locked it's locked but that door
• 2:32:25
  [UNKNOWN]: where you're like, oh, shit, is the door going to fail?
• 2:32:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Is there some fucking, uh, the rock fucking barrel in?
• 2:32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, but it's like, so what we have learned over time that people that work there is like, when you walk up to this bathroom, you touch the handle if it's locked, someone's in there, right?
• 2:32:51
  [UNKNOWN]: The shoulder is very scary to the person that's sitting on the toilet.
• 2:32:55
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know you're okay, though.
• 2:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The weirdest thing though is when someone does the knock.
• 2:33:07
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no occupied sign, there's no nothing.
• 2:33:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You get the,
• 2:33:13
  [UNKNOWN]: knock on the door.
• 2:33:15
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you do?
• 2:33:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You sit there and you scroll Twitter.
• 2:33:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You do this, right?
• 2:33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So the joke in the past has been like, why do you knock?
• 2:33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Motherfucker, it's open or it's not open.
• 2:33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to shoulder it.
• 2:33:31
  [UNKNOWN]: You can lightly open the door if it's locked.
• 2:33:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not.
• 2:33:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So the past joke has just been this is when someone knocks, which is weird, you're like, come in.
• 2:33:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I like, that's kind of magic.
• 2:33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, come in, which is, you're not supposed to do that.
• 2:33:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So today, I'm teaching seven hours of teaching, got my first five minutes to myself, sat down, chilling for a second.
• 2:34:04
  [UNKNOWN]: the shoulder came in.
• 2:34:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Boom.
• 2:34:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Then the knock.
• 2:34:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I sat quietly.
• 2:34:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, oh, I'm just going to scroll and look at Darren Waller's highlights or something shit like this.
• 2:34:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Pause.
• 2:34:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Six, seven seconds.
• 2:34:25
  [UNKNOWN]: A second knock.
• 2:34:28
  [UNKNOWN]: A second knock, then I was finally, I said, come in and the person like, oh, I didn't know anybody was in there.
• 2:34:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought I was going to call.
• 2:34:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought the door was locked.
• 2:34:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, get the ice up, folks.
• 2:34:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Learn bathroom etiquette.
• 2:34:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't shoulder a locked door and don't knock on a locked door.
• 2:34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: What are these posts to say to you?
• 2:34:53
  [UNKNOWN]: What are the, and then a second knock,
• 2:34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: unforgivable to me.
• 2:35:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody did now.
• 2:35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Is he okay?
• 2:35:03
  [UNKNOWN]: He did not mention anything, but we're going to finish this.
• 2:35:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, wait, what up?
• 2:35:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He did.
• 2:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He just texted me.
• 2:35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He said his computer acted up.
• 2:35:12
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:35:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It's us.
• 2:35:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We're at the end.
• 2:35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll give one.
• 2:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll give an ice up here and then I'll allow us to vacate the premises.
• 2:35:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So my ice up is going to be, it was going to be along the lines of what Cody's was.
• 2:35:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I know the real AP wants me to do data centers.
• 2:35:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not as well versed on data centers to be able to give an educated opinion on that matter, but as that comes in, maybe I can do that in the future.
• 2:35:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's like the people.
• 2:35:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
• 2:35:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This point time put money and I'm at the, you know, because I don't know that we're going to stop it, but I will say, I'm going to set the WNBA.
• 2:35:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know, the WNBA has taken on an 80, 20 issue right now.
• 2:36:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is this whole, you know, trans people and and they and being welcomed into the WNBA.
• 2:36:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And I say this with a great deal of respect for a lot of these women who are dedicating them their lives to a sport that maybe isn't getting the attention that they would have loved to see it.
• 2:36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think they're talented for what, you know, what they offer and I know that that doesn't go on or a lot of attention.
• 2:36:33
  [UNKNOWN]: However.
• 2:36:35
  [UNKNOWN]: it does garner more attention than it ever has and what they've done is squandered that because when you've taken this whole Sophie Cunningham and there's some stars right now you have who is it that she was against Caitlin Clark was always kind of like a rival with Angel Reese Angel Reese like you have people that are recognizable all of a sudden
• 2:37:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And now eyes are on WMBA, like they've never been, like never been.
• 2:37:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't remember the moment.
• 2:37:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And then what you do is you take that and you just flush it down the toilet.
• 2:37:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Like genuinely you flush it as though it didn't, all of this work that all of these women have been putting in.
• 2:37:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of the women are a part of this.
• 2:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: don't get me wrong.
• 2:37:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm fully aware that this isn't isolated to only the executives of WNBA.
• 2:37:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Quite honestly, I think it's championed by too many of the women in the WNBA.
• 2:37:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But the idea that you're going to welcome men who identify as a woman into the locker rooms and to play on a sport, but
• 2:37:52
  [UNKNOWN]: that is meant to be women's sports.
• 2:37:54
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a reason we've separated them, and that is because women deserve to be able to let their talents be shown and an even playing field.
• 2:38:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And when you introduce men into the equation, it isn't.
• 2:38:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And when you can't even use your own name, as a reference of who should be playing in your league, that's where I think you've lost so much credibility as a league.
• 2:38:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm icing up the WNBA.
• 2:38:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And unfortunately, many of the women who play in the WNBA who don't realize the damage they're doing to their own gender.
• 2:38:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I said, or the sport, my daughter was asking to buy jerseys and teach her it's two years ago.
• 2:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 2:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, does that fall on the 13-year-old girl that was trying to be a basketball player?
• 2:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:38:59
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:39:00
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• 2:39:34
  [UNKNOWN]: C. K. We're out of here.
• 2:39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding.
• 2:39:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to hit.
• 2:39:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me see if I can do this right.
• 2:40:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I hit and stream twice.
• 2:40:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on now.
• 2:40:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
• 2:40:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Where is Cody when we need to double that.
• 2:40:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Do it one more time for you.
• 2:40:21
  [UNKNOWN]: The fucking stream.