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- 0:03Speaker 1: You're listening to Why we do what we do? Welcome
- 0:16Speaker 1: to Why we do what we do Many I'm your
- 0:19Speaker 1: host Abraham.
- 0:20Speaker 2: And I'm your host Shane.
- 0:22Speaker 1: We are a psychology podcast. We talk about the things
- 0:25Speaker 1: that people do and animals do, and sometimes we talk
- 0:28Speaker 1: about the mantras that we recite to ourselves that have
- 0:32Speaker 1: us convinced that we can't change.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, So like when you hear things like
- 0:39Speaker 3: I always think of it is what it is, yeah,
- 0:41Speaker 3: as a mantra. And so our friends used to make
- 0:44Speaker 3: fun of that because somebody would say that, and we
- 0:46Speaker 3: would be like, all you're saying is what's happening?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Is what's happening?
- 0:48Speaker 1: Yep. So there's a certain zen to that, you know,
- 0:54Speaker 1: Uh huh.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice if you aren't somebody who likes change.
- 1:00Speaker 1: The a lot of people that fall into that category, and.
- 1:03Speaker 2: That's true, that's true.
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- 1:25Speaker 1: that would support a podcast that I haven't mentioned. But
- 1:27Speaker 1: let's go ahead and dive into this. Because I am
- 1:30Speaker 1: what I am.
- 1:31Speaker 2: I am what I am too, I too am what
- 1:34Speaker 2: I am.
- 1:35Speaker 1: We have a common refrain for explaining or excusing our
- 1:40Speaker 1: behavior with the universally accepted rationale of because. Yeah.
- 1:48Speaker 3: So the modern version of this migrates the responsibility of
- 1:50Speaker 3: our mushy head stuff our brain. It's not wrong, but
- 1:53Speaker 3: it might be a little bit misleading and is not
- 1:55Speaker 3: particularly helpful, especially when we're trying to solve a problem
- 1:59Speaker 3: or create solutions, or maybe even change our own behavior.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah, or just even create like the possibility of a
- 2:07Speaker 1: different future than what is the current situation, inviting change
- 2:13Speaker 1: if you will, exactly so. I hear people frequently comment
- 2:18Speaker 1: about their behavior by excusing it with this idea that
- 2:22Speaker 1: something along the lines of quote, that's just how my
- 2:25Speaker 1: brain works, end quote. And throughout time we have likely
- 2:30Speaker 1: had this way of thinking about what we do when
- 2:32Speaker 1: we don't understand ourselves. So we might say that's just
- 2:36Speaker 1: who I am, or as Popeye said, i am what
- 2:39Speaker 1: I am, or as I like to say, a.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Yam what a am? I love that.
- 2:45Speaker 1: But this idea that I am what I am seems
- 2:48Speaker 1: to come from the Hebrew phrase, Oh, I look this
- 2:51Speaker 1: up and I forgot how it is. It's like aa
- 2:54Speaker 1: escher aa be ave escher av I am who I am.
- 3:00Speaker 1: That's how that that say would translate, I think more directly,
- 3:04Speaker 1: which in turn comes from the Hebrew Bible in Exodus
- 3:06Speaker 1: three fourteen PI hey, when Moses asks God about his name.
- 3:14Speaker 1: But the translation about the exact what that would mean
- 3:17Speaker 1: is debated by people who character debate those sorts of things.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, so what is curious about the idea behind
- 3:25Speaker 3: the that's just how my brain works is the implication
- 3:28Speaker 3: of this means that this is how your brain has
- 3:31Speaker 3: always worked and will always work. But it almost certainly
- 3:34Speaker 3: did not work that way before it acquire language and experience,
- 3:37Speaker 3: and it will almost certainly change with language and experience
- 3:40Speaker 3: as you age, with maturation and all the things that
- 3:42Speaker 3: go along with that. As you develop and have more experiences,
- 3:45Speaker 3: your brain will operate differently than it did. I think
- 3:48Speaker 3: of like, if I had this brain when I was
- 3:51Speaker 3: a teenager, I would be a very different person. I
- 3:53Speaker 3: would have had a very different outcome in my life.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I sometimes think like it would be cool to
- 3:58Speaker 1: go back to being a teenager and know what I
- 4:00Speaker 1: know now, But I have not really thought through the
- 4:02Speaker 1: implications of that, and it is a little scary.
- 4:05Speaker 3: We would not be fun teenagers, I don't think, like
- 4:07Speaker 3: I think that we would be too serious for our
- 4:09Speaker 3: own good, Like we would be so risk averse. We're like, no,
- 4:11Speaker 3: we don't need.
- 4:12Speaker 2: To do that anymore.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very much. Yeah, yeah, definitely not fun at all. No,
- 4:18Speaker 1: So this idea that our behavior is kind of locked
- 4:21Speaker 1: in place, that's just who I am, that's just how
- 4:24Speaker 1: my brain works. But also thinking that like that isn't
- 4:28Speaker 1: how it worked before you've had experience and developed language
- 4:32Speaker 1: and participated effectively in a culture. Right, This means that
- 4:37Speaker 1: our pattern of behavior cannot be an idiosyncratic necessity for
- 4:44Speaker 1: the neurological structure and functioning of one's brain. Sure, And
- 4:50Speaker 1: what I mean is that if our patterns of behavior
- 4:53Speaker 1: are developed, then it is not a universally human thing
- 4:59Speaker 1: to have us be like sort of locked in place.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And it's not even necessarily a you thing, as it's
- 5:05Speaker 1: kind of just the current state of a thing that
- 5:07Speaker 1: is constantly in flux. But it's just what it's like
- 5:11Speaker 1: right now. And I guess that's a long, esoteric, roundabout
- 5:16Speaker 1: way of saying that if it's developed, that means that
- 5:20Speaker 1: it's kind of just always in a constant state of change.
- 5:22Speaker 1: And whatever it is that seems to be your fixed
- 5:26Speaker 1: pattern of behavior is your behavior right now in this circumstance,
- 5:31Speaker 1: not the way it has always been and will always be.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 5:36Speaker 3: So if it is the developmental thing, then a more
- 5:39Speaker 3: accurate way of saying this is to add two critical
- 5:41Speaker 3: words to the end of it, this is just how
- 5:43Speaker 3: my brain works right now, which is kind of also
- 5:47Speaker 3: totally not true, or at least is so obvious that
- 5:50Speaker 3: it isn't worth saying. It's like saying that is the
- 5:53Speaker 3: thing that just happened in this moment, But it is
- 5:55Speaker 3: at least closer to being correct because it's a little
- 5:57Speaker 3: bit more objective and it's not quite as locked in
- 6:00Speaker 3: as this is just how my brain works.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, very good, And unfortunately ads are not forever,
- 6:07Speaker 1: they are not fixed. But there are ads right now.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Ads are happening when they're happening, all right, So.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Let's get back to that's just how our brain works.
- 6:24Speaker 3: So the other problem with this kind of this defeatist
- 6:26Speaker 3: attitude is that it implies it cannot and should not change,
- 6:29Speaker 3: so is not helpful. Like what do you do with
- 6:31Speaker 3: that kind of statement or attitude or thought, Right, there
- 6:34Speaker 3: is no opportunity to learn if that is just the
- 6:37Speaker 3: way things are. If that's how things are and they're fixed,
- 6:39Speaker 3: then there's no it doesn't matter what you do next.
- 6:41Speaker 3: There's no developmental growth, there's no learning. And if things
- 6:44Speaker 3: are stuck in an immutable place for the rest of
- 6:46Speaker 3: your life, then there's really no point in trying to
- 6:49Speaker 3: do new things. And if this is just how your
- 6:51Speaker 3: brain works right now, just who you are right now,
- 6:54Speaker 3: and this is just kind of one isolated incident that
- 6:56Speaker 3: you can kind of learn or grow or develop and
- 6:59Speaker 3: gain new things. If you commit to never changing, it
- 7:02Speaker 3: will be harder to change. You still will, but it'll
- 7:05Speaker 3: be more difficult or you might not at least recognize
- 7:07Speaker 3: that you have changed when those things happen.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. So sticking to how things are means
- 7:15Speaker 1: finding value and reward and correspondence between how things are
- 7:19Speaker 1: and how you said that they should be sort of
- 7:23Speaker 1: saying and what I'm saying here is like you're more
- 7:25Speaker 1: or less incentivizing for yourself to keep things static, to
- 7:30Speaker 1: find value in a lack of learning, in a lack
- 7:34Speaker 1: of change. If you say they should be stagnant and
- 7:37Speaker 1: follow this one particular pattern, then you will find value
- 7:41Speaker 1: and reward in outcomes and actions that are stagnant and
- 7:45Speaker 1: stick to that one particular pattern. So it is treating
- 7:49Speaker 1: this as a not only is this how things work
- 7:53Speaker 1: right now, but also how they're going to continue to
- 7:56Speaker 1: work indefinitely. But that again sort of incentivizes a pattern
- 8:02Speaker 1: of seeking that like you then only you try and
- 8:05Speaker 1: keep it the same even if you're not doing so,
- 8:08Speaker 1: like with a clear cognizant attention to the fact that
- 8:12Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. You're setting yourself up to look
- 8:15Speaker 1: for correspondence between the idealized should sort of world and
- 8:21Speaker 1: the one you actually find yourself in and are always
- 8:23Speaker 1: constantly trying to push it back to the homogeneity of
- 8:28Speaker 1: things are just this way, right.
- 8:31Speaker 3: So committing to the opportunity to learn from our experiences
- 8:33Speaker 3: means finding reward and value and outcomes that align with
- 8:36Speaker 3: the progression along some dimension of improvement. So essentially what
- 8:40Speaker 3: that means is when we have opportunities to learn. Then
- 8:42Speaker 3: we can improve, we can get better, we can contact
- 8:44Speaker 3: new and better rewards as a result of this. It
- 8:47Speaker 3: doesn't mean that we need to be perfect, but it
- 8:49Speaker 3: does allow us to strive to get better, especially if
- 8:51Speaker 3: we have kind of the value or the belief system
- 8:54Speaker 3: that we are not stagnant creatures. Our behavior is not permanent, right,
- 8:59Speaker 3: So like, we always learn something new and we it varies,
- 9:03Speaker 3: and that is a really powerful thing, and we should
- 9:06Speaker 3: be creating those opportunities and just saying that I am
- 9:08Speaker 3: who I am doesn't allow for that.
- 9:10Speaker 1: The simple fact of the matter is that we are
- 9:13Speaker 1: constantly learning and developing from cradle to grave. This is
- 9:17Speaker 1: a lifetime experience that we are going to find ourselves in.
- 9:22Speaker 1: We can try and pretend like things aren't going to change,
- 9:24Speaker 1: but they are going to because we have impermanent lives, right,
- 9:30Speaker 1: They do not last forever.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 9:32Speaker 1: The particular reason we do any one thing at a
- 9:35Speaker 1: given moment is part of a very rich, interwoven tapestry
- 9:39Speaker 1: of variables and experiences that we have had and the
- 9:43Speaker 1: present circumstances under which we find ourselves. All of that
- 9:47Speaker 1: stuff creates the ongoing context of right now and sets
- 9:52Speaker 1: the path for the future. So we're sort of just
- 9:55Speaker 1: fooling ourselves pretending that we can keep things the way
- 9:58Speaker 1: that they are when they never will be. They're just
- 10:01Speaker 1: always in an ongoing interaction with all the other things
- 10:05Speaker 1: around us.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Right, So when you're not sure, it is actually more
- 10:09Speaker 3: productive to ask questions like why did I just do that,
- 10:11Speaker 3: and then reflect on it. It's a more productive take
- 10:14Speaker 3: because you start analyzing the conditions and the circumstances by
- 10:17Speaker 3: which you did this thing, or even better, what can
- 10:20Speaker 3: I learn from this and then do better next time
- 10:22Speaker 3: because you can analyze what you've done, what the outcomes were,
- 10:25Speaker 3: and then make a different choice or different decision in
- 10:28Speaker 3: that circumstance.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Again, so all of this is talking about this idea
- 10:32Speaker 1: of people saying things like that's just the way my
- 10:34Speaker 1: brain works. That could be around anything really like I
- 10:38Speaker 1: can't do math, that's just the way my brain works,
- 10:41Speaker 1: or in this case, maybe doesn't work, or like I
- 10:44Speaker 1: don't like action movies. That's just the way my brain works.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Whatever it is. And that's again like this doesn't say
- 10:51Speaker 1: anything useful, and it certainly seems to commit to stagnation.
- 10:54Speaker 1: But there is a really important caveat to bring in here,
- 10:58Speaker 1: which is that they're a diegon notices that people have
- 11:02Speaker 1: that reflect a genuine pattern that can more or less
- 11:05Speaker 1: be expected for those people.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Right.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And further, there are certain patterns and preferences that are
- 11:13Speaker 1: very consistent for people throughout their whole lives. The research
- 11:17Speaker 1: on this is actually shows that once your personality starts
- 11:20Speaker 1: to develop, the longer it goes on on the path
- 11:24Speaker 1: that it is on, the more it will sort of
- 11:27Speaker 1: lock into place that that is your personality. Right, that's
- 11:30Speaker 1: a fairly consistent thing that happens. We've talked about personality.
- 11:34Speaker 1: I think people treat it as being prescriptive when it's not.
- 11:37Speaker 1: But that's a conversation for a different time. But just
- 11:40Speaker 1: to state that there are things that become more and
- 11:44Speaker 1: more fixed ways of being over time unless circumstances put
- 11:48Speaker 1: that on a different path. So adding to that, people
- 11:53Speaker 1: who are gay or trans have remarkably consistent thoughts, feelings,
- 11:57Speaker 1: and behaviors on this from an early age, early in
- 12:01Speaker 1: childhood and throughout their lives. And I mean, obviously it
- 12:04Speaker 1: would make sense to say people who are not who
- 12:06Speaker 1: would identify as CIS, CIS gender and straight also have
- 12:11Speaker 1: consistent thoughts and feelings about this their entire lives. Right,
- 12:15Speaker 1: That's just right, that's just the thing. And so we're
- 12:18Speaker 1: not at all saying that like that's not actually how
- 12:22Speaker 1: their brains work, Like it is a pretty fixed pattern,
- 12:26Speaker 1: and like, I think that's it's a different type of aspect.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And again, let's think of like diagnoses, like a diagnosis
- 12:32Speaker 1: for like let's say like down syndrome, that's like that
- 12:36Speaker 1: that is going to be like a part of who
- 12:39Speaker 1: they are their entire lives. Right, But I think there
- 12:42Speaker 1: are people who again, like when it's they're talking about
- 12:45Speaker 1: things like their preferences or their relative skills, and they're saying,
- 12:48Speaker 1: that's just the way my brain works. And that's that's
- 12:51Speaker 1: really what we're talking about with respect to with this conversation.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, So the moral of the story is, don't
- 12:58Speaker 3: commit to stagnation. For this day of sagnation, no one wins.
- 13:02Speaker 3: You certainly don't win. You miss out on growth opportunities,
- 13:05Speaker 3: You miss out on opportunities.
- 13:06Speaker 2: To really do better.
- 13:08Speaker 3: So really don't commit to this, commit to learning and
- 13:12Speaker 3: growth and development and making sure that your flower outgrows
- 13:16Speaker 3: its pot.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Love that that's very cute, Yeah, all right, Well, I
- 13:22Speaker 1: could certainly pontificate further, but we are about at the
- 13:24Speaker 1: time that we have set for ourselves. So I think
- 13:27Speaker 1: that was a really lovely note to end On. If
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- 13:47Speaker 1: anything that I miss, Shane, or anything you would like
- 13:48Speaker 1: to add before we wrap up?
- 13:50Speaker 2: Not today?
- 13:51Speaker 1: No, all right, go out, go forth and change your behavior. Yay.
- 13:55Speaker 1: This is Abraham and this is a Shane.
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